MAPPA vs. THE WORLD
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
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not sure how i mixed up studio bones as the studio that made cowboy bebop, i probably jumbled my words in my script. its made by sunrise. not bones.
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This video is going to talk about prime examples of studios throughout the anime industry that are just as important as MAPPA and some shows that are as memorable as what MAPPA can make!
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0:00 INTRO
1:20 ONE PUNCH MAN SEASON 3
7:06 UFOTABLE (DEMON SLAYER)
8:26 OTHER STUDIOS
11:17 STUDIO BIND (MUSHOKU TENSEI)
12:45 RE:ZERO (PEAK FICTION)
14:04 STUDIO 8BIT (BLUE LOCK/SLIME) - Zábava
The timing of this video coming out coinciding with the info about MAPPA employees not being allowed to publicly express complaints about their overwork and rushed productions is just impeccable
i couldnt believe it myself tbh
@@samyalready will you address it in a video?
Daily reminder Studio Bones and KyoAni are consistently praised by their employees for good schedules and rest times. You don't have to crush your employees like in Zom 100 to produce good anime.
@@EmmanuelMarin07 doubt it. He literally said in the first 60 secs of this video that he's a MAPPA meatrider. Personal bias prevents people from critiquing things they have an affinity for.
Just look at Nintendo zealots. Despite how anti-consumer and greedy they can be, they have a litany of white knights & defenders. But what people need to understand, @samyalready included is these are companies looking to turn a profit.
They're not morally "good". They don't care about you or how much you champion them. It's about the bottom line. Even if that means running a sweatshop, like MAPPA has been notoriously known to do for the past few yrs. They want profit. Nothing more. Nothing less.
@@Shinius KyoAni has control over their production so it's different for them. As for Bones they don't take too many projects and negotiate a decent schedule for the shows.
I do wanna mention for the OPM section that season 2 had a really poor production schedule compared to season 1, resulting in a lot of animators layouts being scrapped or changed, especially with episode 8, but mostly with the last few episodes. Although surprisingly there’s an animator at J.C Staff that did animation for every single episode of season 2, Kenichiro Aoki! His output is incredibly fast and takes a lot of inspiration from a lot of the best animators out there! And for a poorly scheduled production, even then he was still able to do great work every time he popped up on an episode! A lot of the best animated scenes from season 2 were done by him.
There were actually great animation moments in OPM season 2 that were ruined by compositing. I remember a scene from the tournament with the red horned monster. The animation itself was super clean with hand drawn dust clouds and effects but they were removed and replaced with computer generated ones. Also with the cockroach fight it had great animation but completely buried under the trash shines effect. The BIGGEST crime was the removal of the terminator impact frame for Genos vs Garou
Fun fact: The group of freelance animators that are working on both JJK and Chainsaw Man first formed for OPM S1. The group split into 2 after OPM S1 and worked on other shows while also growing a lot in size. Both groups then merged back together for JJK S1 and have stayed for JJK and CSM.
No wonder both JJK and CM had Godtier animation.
Thank you. This was a good fun fact
Unfortunately Nakamura carried the whole S1
Ima be real, I like the content Mappa has created. The thing I don't like is that to me it seemed they were rushing some anime and it makes the quality go down. Although some animes were good. The thing I don't like is how they have enslaved their animators in the studio to make anime.
Aside from jigo. What exactly?
@@user-og6pb6dd5p I thought they rushed Vinland Saga Season 2. I didn't think it was bad, but I believe it could've been better. Also Vanishing Line, I thought that was alright. I loved Hells Paradise, but too bad it wasn't as popular as the other animes in the Dark Trio.
@@k1ran021 I rewatched Vinland Saga s1 recently and honestly the 2nd season was just way more consistent in it's animation with less use of CGI as well.
@@adudeinafolder5608 Mainly just cuz s2 didnt need as much animation power because of the lack of action so they could just focus on perfecting the backgrounds and the other aspects of the show. S1 was pretty much constant massive scale battles with insane action animation.
Hell’s paradise for sure
MADHOUSE used to be one of the biggest/most popular anime studios out there and then turned into a mass production studio and basically ended themself.
Maruyama left MADHOUSE and founded MAPPA and in the first few years MAPPA was quality before quantity.
after Maruyama left and Otsuka took over they also turned into a mass production studio. it's only a matter of time till they end up like their mother studio MADHOUSE. looks like some people never learn from their previous mistakes
exactly why i cannot stand this studio
the reason way he left was because the movie the worked on for 7 years flopped, and that's why he decided to leave
doesn't seem the case, if they would do proper animation without rushing people will love the story, nobody watches Jujutsu kaisen, CSM, Hell's paradise due to Mappa but due to the story and the manga itself... This is the same reason why Hell's paradise is not as popular as JJK and CSM... If Mappa downgrades its quality people will surely stop seeing them.... but the way they are animating JJK s2 I find it really hard... although Hell's paradise was inconsistent... some of its shots were 60 fps Full HD animation while other were stale... I hope they hand S2 better... although I loved Hell's paradise anyway
small update: Madhouse is now putting out Frieren with impeccable animation and a healthy production schedule; prioritizing quality over quantity. Meanwhile, MAPPA is sinking; all because Otsuka moved most of the staff to make CSM while they were mid-production with JJK2 (he gets a bigger cut from CSM cuz MAPPA owns the rights and it was a popular manga atm) and now the next JJK chapters are yet to be finished.
Damn Maruyama is unlucky if he got 2 of his studios become a mass production studio
David Production gotta be my personal fav. Sound design never fails. My personal pick to animate Kagurabachi.
I still remember watching kagurabachi as a kid the moment when kagurabachi kagurabaci'd all over the place is still one of the greatest scenes of all time
It's more in the staff rather than the studio. Unless the studio in question is kyoto animation or ufotable. Opm s1, for example, looked as good as it did mostly because of it's director shingo natsume and his connections.
Time and schedule playing role too
It still irritates me on how Blue Lock could have a really good anime adaptation if they just had the time. The studio literallly had less than a year to animate 24 episodes and they had to rush it unfortunately. But gotta cut the studio some slack because Blue Lock's manga illustrations and panels are SUPER HARD to animate properly to satisfy the readers and watchers
I thought the anime adaptation was still very good personally. It doesn’t need to look EXACTLY like the manga, it still looked solid. The soundtracks were great too. My main complaint is that they only had the spiral eyes, the other types of eyes weren’t even in the show (I know they’d hardly been used at that point anyways though so I hope they fix it at least by the Japan u20 match)
Went a bit overboard with the computer animations.
As a football fan i can say there are a lot of moments in blue lock that happened in real matches when blue lock was airing.. and that made me love blue lock more.
certainly not the 2nd half of the season
@@RralRonaldo nah i remember when the epesode of "luck with perfect position is part of football" was airing(second half) haland scord a 5 goals in champions league by that method
bruh positioning on the pitch isnt some 200iq thing lol @@aissaaissa3080
I watched this with my non German girlfriend at the time when Germany lost against Japan and she constantly rubbed it under my nose. 😑
I don't even care for football.
Bruh these musical reference transitions are killing me holy shit they are genuinely hilarious
Imagine "Berserk" animated by Mappa.
Nah, it might be better if Ufotable did that adaptation because of how much detail would be needed to give that dark medieval fantasy vibe. So having really detailed CGI backgrounds would be a better idea that just really polished 2D that mappa is known for
Studio 4c° already made an incredibly well animated and directed adaptation and I seriously think they should just make a continuation
Mappa can definitely handle vagabond though
Instead of saying the studio you should say the staff. Like imagine Tetsuro Araki and his team working on berserk or even thr seshino team
I watched blue lock a couple weeks back long after I had heard the hype around it, I didn't even know there was hate for it and I really couldn't see why. I think that the story being told here is far more entertaining and important then a couple scenes that use cgi
You put so much love and care into your videos, keep up the great work :)
Thanks for the video, as I literally never heard about Mappa before! ♥
Bluelock getting some love is great to see, that was one of my favourite anime from last year based purely on the over exaggerated hype of the plays alone!
Manga is amazing but dear god the adaptation was atrocious. Horrid animation, weak drawings, awful cgi.
I can never hold my laughter everytime the cgi running popped up on the screen
@@neromxxn2252 L take
@@neromxxn2252 unfortunately animating football/soccer anime well is just virtually impossible because you’d have to keep track of 22 moving players at all times and animate accordingly.
The Blue Lock anime had some well animated moments but they were usually done when only 1-2 players are visibly moving in frame, like most shots and one-on-ones.
Animating with a budget and time constraint isnt easy and for what its worth, the blue lock anime is still good enough to enjoy as long as you arent actively trying to hate on its animation, personally i find the cgi to be funny goofy and it adds to the experience.
@@oofink467 Football is always the hardest to animate in sports anime. You make greats points. 👍
The moment I saw how Saitama dealt with Monster King Orochi was *so well drawn* in manga, I immediately thought something like "no way they are gonna animate this properly!!"
And there was more than one scene from Murata that was so incredibly drawn that I was left speechless!
I really hope that the 3rd season won't get cut in half or castrated by making it into 12-13 episodes, but they will really go out for high quality 24 eps.
It will be hard, as Murata's drawing can be really amazing, so I really hope that this won't get wrong! ♥
I’ve never seen anyone as passionate about Blue Lock as I am thank you so much 😍
1:23 lmaoo as soon as I heard this I knew it was the sample used in Hyaena 😂 also great vid ❤
Prince of Tennis was the first sports anime I watched... love it!
Another banger video from samyalready
I can already tell this is worth the wait
Yo nice gentle giant reference nice to see another fan
This was a great video explaining MAPPA vs other studios. They have made so many shows but they really need to hold back because I feel like they might have a situation where all their success comes falling down after doing quantity over quality. Frankly they deserve it too after what they've done to their workers. Also do you think you can do a review of each studio(or at least famous ones) of what their strengths and weaknesses are? I'm still trying to figure out what studio has good pros and which one has bad cons.
As for Blue Lock I'm hoping that another studio will take over soon as well since there is so much potential for the anime. I would love if Production IG took the reins since they made Haiikyu and Heavenly Delusion(one of the best anime this year). They're currently working on Kaiju no 8 and it looks phenomenal so I can only imagine what Blue Lock would look like under their care. It's also crazy how Blue Lock predicted events from the World Cup(Japan beating Germany and Isagi's famous direct shot).
I love Mappa works, but I think it's important to give other studios a chance to go big too. Many gems are made my smaller studios and it just make the industry much more diverse.
Nice video, I agree with a lot of your points and see your point of view great video 👍
My guy delivers again, great vid
Really neat explanation on anime studios in general, and why Mappa doesn't need to take up every anime out there as their product offering. I very much agree with most points mentioned.
I would very much like you to make a video on why Re:Zero is the best anime and what studio White Fox does to the Anime for S3. A same type of video on Studio Bind. Looking forward to your next video.
For the entire studio bind section I was waiting for you to bring up Onimai
Yeah, Studio Bind is Crazy, i cannot believe i did not see a single SGI frame in the whole series. It was so good that it did not even notice it. Not mentioning the sound design and merging openings into the story.
Great 👍🏻 video nice 👍🏻 hype!!!!!!!!
bro the transitions on this video are hilarious
Ever heard of production ig , they created ao ashi and haikyuu,two sports anime that is exceptionally well done
I like Ao Ashi a lot, but I would not call it "well done", there's a lot of stills.
Specially not comparing it to Haikyuu, the difference is painfully obvious
@@carloscauan7967 Ao ashi animation was great considering it was a soccer anime (virtually impossible to animate well) and probably didnt have a massive budget
Haikyuu S4 on the other hand is arguably on par with Aoashi’s animation except it mustve had a much bigger budget and doesnt have as many players that need to be actively animated at any one time.
Volleyball is just generally easier to animate than football to be fair
Like your stuff, looks like you gained another subscriber, hope you grow bigger!
Blue lock is an amazing anime. Definitely captured the World Cup hype that was going on at the time it was airing. It filled the void Italy left for me (I support Italy but they didn't qualify) and made me support Japan. Cannot wait for season 2.
Did you see the inter Milan x blue lock artwork? It was pretty sick
@@leespn4396 just seen it! Its sick!
Man you put so much effort in this video, hope it'll blow up!
amazing video as always
literally just now they said theyre gonna silence the jjk staff about how the production is
aint no way 💀
I think blue lock would have been more consistent in terms of animation if it was 1 cour. Maybe like slime season 2 they would split new season of blue lock as well then it will give them more time to polish their work.
It was very noticeable that the first 12 eps of Blue Lock were pure gold, and it turned downhill after the second cour had started.
The CGI was so jarring to see. The voice actors carried SO HARD
I just watched the slime but i think blue lock has more cool animation than what the slime got.
Slime is very consistent without losing tracks such as drawing bad.
But there's no like highlight or sakuga.
This is another reason that s story can be peak with a normal animation btw.
Also im very excited for the s3 tensura im so hyped
Yes it’s finally here I can’t wait to watch it!!😊
I watched blue lock, and as a fan of football and of this anime, I am so glad that it's your favorite!!
Also personally disagree on the still frame at around 16:47. This seems like a pretty iconic panel, and considering the only real animation in the anime for it is the ball spinning, it feels like it would have not been a break-the-bank moment to add at least some more shading to the character, the trail from the eye, and the repeating halo trails behind him...
i bet the studio didnt think much about it but for the fanbase that was within the top 3 most iconic scenes before the u20 arc was released at the time
Impressed my guy made the whole video without studio Pierrot crossing his mind, no hate though great video man ❤
Bleach, naruto, Tokyo ghou-oh wait
Studio Bones might be the best pick as they can replicate and amplify the animation of opm like they did in mob psycho
but still what i hate the most that people cant seperate bad art yet good animation, or overly detailed art and below avareage animation, or how people throwing off very good scenes animated by animators to "unlimited budget" like with demon slayer, when most of these "unlimited budget" scenes were animated by ufotable ace-nozomu abe
Yep i hate when people say to a scene “Damn how much budget did they put in this scene” it just feels like massive disrespect to the animator. I csnt fathom the amount of times ive seen people watching demon slayer and look at a scene that is carried by compositing and say “What great animation!”
I feel like ufotable would be perfect for one punch man. and now that its around 2 seasons left of demon slayer they could pick up something new
I'd rather they pick up something that's never been animated. Something like Vagabond or Fire Punch.
But the most likely candidate is Genshin Impact since they already did the trailer for it. Me personally, I would rather they do Honkai Impact since it's more balls to the wall action.
@@dsan17 yeah but i still think they would do opm perfectly ngl
@@omeganeoz Ufotable's style is really different. Not sure why you think they are perfect for OPM.
@@pranavkalbhore7708 no it isnt. look at fate for example. completely different artstyle from demon slayer. it depends on the manga they cooking up
It’s sad that we’ll all have one anime that we won’t live long enough to finish
I love this thumbnail, after million attempts you decided lol
i think studio bind would be a the most close contender in terms of competition in art style wise as mushoku tensei looking fresh af ngl with flowing art style and fluid motion and movement
Anime CZcams eating good with both Samy and Gigguk uploading a video recently. WE EATING GOOD BABYYY
+ LunarEquinox
never heard of them, ill check them out@@nlswchrng
Production IG would have been the best for Blue Lock but 8 bit's adaptation was good too.
Exactly, mappa is making the most animes rn, just poor mappa animators 😭
I nearly forgot to remind you to make a Re:Zero video, but thankfully you did it yourself
Speak. Slower. Breath! Great Video
Obliged to say first🗣️💯
how do you know that Maboroshi (the movie you mentioned) was in mappas backlog for 2 years? just curious, can you provide a source? thanks so much I love your videos on Mappa I'm trying to understand and follow all the productions of Mappa for fun, just trying to understand. Thank you
Cowboy Bebop was made by Sunrise, who also worked on Inuyasha, Outlaw Star, and Gundam.
as a guy who started reading the blue lock manga a year before it was adapted i was always thinking that ufotable would do a better job on blue lock but then i watched god of highschool which is how i discovered mappa in the first place and i thought,"if this studio made this manga into an anime it'd be insane" but then after reading the GOH webtoon and seeing the amount of content they cut out in the adapted GOH Anime I'd still go back my stance on blue lock being better off in the hands of another studio, i actually love the blue lock anime as it is but re-reading the manga with the new chapters recently has me asking if 8bit would need to pass the project to other studios
Mentioning Bones without talking about Eureka Seven means I have to curse your entire lineage forever.
You made a good point with Bluelock.
As an actual futbol fan, Bluelock only does one thing to the sport - over exaggerating. And that’s what makes it’s so fun to watch! It’s so cool/cringe! It’s MY personal favorite for many reasons with that being one of them. Professional futbol can actually be looked at through the lense of an anime fan. Weapons, Zero-1, those are all IRL things! For example Messi’s weapon would be his sprint-dribble and game sense (Bachira and Isagi combined)
Glazin.
about damn time....
the goats as long as the employees aren't overworked 😭
Blue lock being unrealistic isnt a problem at all in my opinion i love football and playbit as a hobby but blue locm i my 2nd favourite anime. I have a friend who plays the striker position for a club and he LIVES the show its his nr 1 favourite. I think it does a great job at inspiring people and telling a fun story
Any studio will work for one punch man season 3. But if we are thinking who all have the bugget, time and quality for doing it then a good chose would be Mappa, and even that might not be sufficient due to the amount of time required for those scenes to get animated without decreasing the quality.
The best options would be a combination of multiple studios, this will not only decrease the work load, but also decrease time without sacrificing quality. Even this has the problems like managing the profits being split among studios and communications between them.
I barely watch sports anime. I almost quit bluelock in episode 1. But then I saw Isagi say fuck friendship at the end of episode 1 and I was hooked. Now I’m all the way caught up in the manga, this is something I’ve NEVER done for a sports anime. That’s how much I enjoy it. It’s truly a shounen with soccer as it’s power system.
i love blue lock ur so awesome
Onimai made by Studio Bind is just perfect a masterclass adaptation
Make a MAPPA vs the animators video
Studio mappa also made people believe that it's the only studio that ever existed
IitiSSt G has a rodoonoo!
I dont mind if mappa does opm season 3, mappa has so many connections, they could just collaborate with madhouse again like they did with Tack Op destiny.
Mappa will ruined it OPM let's be honest also during takt op destiny almost 70% are madhouse mappa during that time they're are more 2nd KA animation production mappa are great on art style and visuals but interms on actions scenes they're are not great example right now jjk s2 are not great right now interm on actions scenes without sunghoo park this series are less hype also animators are complaining on mappa right now also there's no way they can bring nakamura again on OPM especially on mappa production he has own production right now
"It would be incredible to hear that MAPPA plans to adapt your favourite show into an anime"
Dunno man, after Jigokuraku I'm not sure I would be that confident lol
W vid
1:25 NO FUCKING WAY. I put in an egg the exact moment this guy was talking about instant ramen.. I actually had to rewind what I just heard while I was doing thst
I know plenty of big football fans, including myself, who enjoy blue lock. The only ones that complain about that kind of shit are people who can’t have any fun… it’s not a football documentary, it’s an anime at the end of the day.
Oh hey the mappa boy
They are still on top but they're slowly getting some competition
Not gonna lie, Seeing garou in the thumbnail in Mappa’s chainsaw man animation style was hype as fuck. That alone was enough to shake my core to brace myself for the actual fight scenes.
Yoo new vid dropped lets gooo
Studio Pierrot should have been mentioned since there animation is rivaling mappas recently
Bones' studio b have only done Mob since 2019 so its possible that they'll do OPM.
MAPPA is great but I totally agree that one studio should not be adapting every big series out there. Not only because of the workload, scheduling, and budgeting issues it would cause them, but also because I just don't want every major new anime looking so similar. That's boring.
I appreciate you highlighting some of the other awesome studios out there because lately it seems like a lot of people have gotten lost in the MAPPA sauce and see it as the only option for them
Also Blue Lock rules! (but this is coming from someone who couldn't care less about irl soccer lol)
11:06 Madhouse made a movie called, Redline, which you can watch for free on youtube, but it is beautiful especially since it was made in 2007 and it took 7 years to make it. And even though that movie is really good, it made madhouse bankrupt and during that time of failure Masao Maruyama, quit his job at madhouse and started his own studio called Studio Mappa.
Studio Orange is doing amazing job
As someone who's been playing and following football their whole life, Blue Lock NAILS high performance sports on an individual level. To become the top performer in any industry you need to have confidence - an ego. Only a true "egoist" would take the risks needed and go the extra mile because they genuinely believe they can do it.
There's a misconception most people have that people develop an ego as a result of fame or success, but often the opposite holds true. These guys were always arrogant, that's what got them to where they are in the first place!
and Demon Slayer mainly shines because of Ufotables "digital team" that's what Ufotable is famous for since 2007 when they started Garden of Sinners. but the actual animation in itself isn't even that fluid. an example for fluid animation would be Kyoto Animation (but to know that people need to watch more than just their basic fighting shonen)
I love Mappa!
A.1 made the first 2 seasons of SDSs which made me a fan of SDSs
Mappa x madhouse making opm will fire
Even if we dont get mappa for OPM s3, all i need is some really good animation. Season 3 is basically the climax of the series and while the story itself is great i hope the animation can do it justice.
Minor Correction: Cowboy Bebop was produced by studio Sunrise not Bones.
The only incorrect thing that stood out to me was saying that you couldn't compare the blue lock anime to colored manga pages. The manga releases weekly, and there's no telling how long it took to draw that specific panel, but typically weekly manga are drawn the week prior to the actual chapter release. Blue lock is my favorite sports manga and anime so seeing the drop in quality from the manga to the anime for really iconic, fan favorite moments was a bit jarring. Other than that I have no issues with the anime. Referring back to that specific frame with Loki, like another commenter mentioned, they really only had to animate the ball haha
Blue Lock ist awesome i dont ussualy Sport Anime or Football but really Likes it
Based rezero the second season was so incredibly good
I still remember when it came out and it was like the best winter season ever, out of all of those shows re zero was the best one in my opinion
another banger
We start bad already when someone doesn't know that the studio doesn't matter when it comes to making good stuff, only time and the ppl that work on it matter. On top of that, unless they get good stories, or an insane team, Mappa and all the other studios with shit productions wont get to Ufotable and Bones levels, the best studios out there, that literally have the best compositor and animator respectively and give so much time, things like "Mob Psycho lll" got completed months before the first episode aired and still made other animes with above average quality, unlike the other quality over quantity studios, even David had no time with part 6, and nvm JJK all episodes have details or compositing lacking, aside from being finished the same day they air Dx Aside from Frieren, Shadow and SxF that so far didn't had issues, consitency still aint feeling like a thing from them.
Legit wasted talent, what Mappa does to the insane ppl they got for such goated fights ending up as just a fast project, annoys to the core, all shots that have'nt been done by literal gods of work feel off and ARE OFF, 3 out of 10 of my favorites shots on the episode with the most budget and ppl so far in jjk s2 are not even credited because the animator did'nt want the credit, BRU UH
This video is such a pain...
They’re also working on the new game of inazuma eleven on top of everything else, which I think is insane.
1:19 best version of Hyaena fr
goh and tog was the new gen beginning
If One Punch Man S3 is animated by Mappa, Ufotable or Madhouse. Expectation is gonna be godlike.
But if it is, Trigger or Bones or David Production or Ig or WIt or Sunrise or Pierrot or 8-Bit or JC. Staff. People will most likely get 50/50 split in is it gonna be good or shit