James O’Brien's Brexit Interview With Tory Minister - In Full - LBC
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- James O’Brien sits down with Justice Minister Rory Stewart to talk all things Brexit - including Theresa May’s withdrawal agreement.
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This summer, I read Rory Stewart's book "The Places In Between", an account of his 32-day solo walk across Afghanistan in January 2002. This took courage, stamina (temperatures dropped at times to around -40°C and on occasions there was nothing much to eat) and humility - not to mention a knowledge of local dialects, which he has (or at least had at the time). The book shows someone who is empathetic, self-effacing when necessary and a very close knowledge of the region. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I cannot for the life of me fathom why he is a member of the Conservative party.
i walked across china in a week and i didnt eat or drink or sleep
@@robertjsmith Thank you for that intellectual contribution.
Maybe he is playing the long game.
Maybe he just happens to be conservative?
Could that possibly be because you've bought in to the dehumanisation of "the other side"? (Which is done by both sides I might add)
this guy should be PM. He's the closest thing the conservatives have to a proper leader at the moment
Never trust a tory. You should know that by now.
@@FireBlade9773 because naked partisanship is always the way forward, eh?
No, but your tories can't be trusted as you'll know from their repeated target failures, ideological austerity, protection of Establishment paedophilia, hostile environments etc etc etc.
People in glass houses mate.
In any case, if you're unable to separate politics fron conspiracy theories there's not much point in replying.
BTW Not that it matters but Lord Jenner was Labour.
Lol What an ignorant, and heavily biased muppet you are.
Agree or disagree with Rory Stewart's position it is very refreshing to hear a politician talk in a reflective thoughtful manner without all the usual political bluster
Agreed
Refreshingly nauseating. He's acting and a perpetual liar for Jew Agenda to destroy.
@@tracischeelk29 you're lame
Pete Pasternak that's what illegal drugs do.... they give you humility and open synapses allowing your brain to expand....
9:00 This part really hit home for me. The right never ends!
I have never heard a politician so lucid, make such an effort to be so concise, straightforward and thoughtful, of either side. Gosh!!!!
He has the same accent as Toy Blair - and was trained for a year at the Kennedy Centre Harvard by the CIA - so should make a great PM !!
@@kayharker712 Article in the Indy today going on about spies, apparently becoming PMs.
First time I've really listened to Rory Stewart & I'm pleasantly surprised. An intelligent man with a considered approach. He even had O'Brien listening to him. Maybe there is hope after all!
He states the obvious.
Intelligence does not exclude you from being wrong.
Lets not forget that hes a politician, every PM we have ever had was acclaimed as charismatic, honest, intelligent etc.
We cant really trust any of them.
@@wishfix I don't remember anyone saying that about Theresa May, Gordon Brown or John Major
This is how interviews with politicians (of all sides) should be. Respectful and informed - I think that Rory Stewart came across very well as he wasn’t allowed, and didn’t try, to fill the time with BS and sound-bites. Well done to both.
This discussion and others like it perfectly demonstrate why such a fiendishly difficult issue should NEVER have been put to a simple 'Yes/No' vote.
Whilst I disagree with Rory Stewart on a variety of things, he was one of the few Tories I had respect for and he would have been an interesting choice for Mayer of London.
Good interview. Rory seems a clever guy and we need more like him in politics. I don't think his middle ground win-win philosophy is possible in today's climate but good luck to him.
Ironicly middle ground politics is how the european parlament works. Because of the way it is split only a compromise has any way of making it through.
@@blackphilip8936 yes he is a nice guy but we do not need nice guys at this point in our history. He appears incredibly weak. He would be worse than May or Corbyn. We need a hard negotiatior right now, like Trump. Once we have sorted out the EU we can go back to having nice reasonable politicians like him. But for now we need a hard headed thug, because the EU are acting like thugs.
@@blackphilip8936 ..."You are either going to get *your* country back"...typical of someone supporting leave YOU ARE NOT EVEN BRITISH
It’s not win-win. He made that very clear
@@blackphilip8936 If people with your ridiculous rhetoric represent the UK, then it's not "good bye UK", it's "good riddance UK". Leaving the EU isn't about stopping federalisation, it's about stopping co-operation. The UK in the EU is mutually beneficial for both parties. You *think* you'll get more of a say when we leave but you won't; your life will still be awful thanks to old-money, corruption and out-moded traditions in our government.
Never before heard
a) Tory talking sense
b) James O'B not interrupting.
These two facts are closely related.
Stephen Holmes - Lol! 😆 very good.
b) is extremely rare.
If JOB agrees with him , not a person to be the new PM .
@@karenclayton3582 Don't tell me, I can guess. You'd prefer Bojo the Clown.
I like this Rory Stewart, he sounds intelligent, thoughtful something I never thought I would or could say about a Tory MP
You’ll never find a clever leftie.
@@johnalex7078 There have been some, but they're all dead now, and been replaced by clueless social justice warriors, obsessing about gender neutral toilets and control of speech. The left has had a massive, collective nervous breakdown and doesn't know how to rebuild their ideology in a coherant way that chimes with the people. They used to represent the working person, now they are the party of the blue haired, nose pierced, fat, bi-sexual sociology student with no idea how the world works.
Only just seen this interview, what a sensible bloke this is. Can’t believe he is a politician. He must be in the wrong job.
Politicians are getting a bad rap because we're only seeing the ones who shout loudest, not the ones who think deepest.
rory is the maverick one of the few worth listening to on the remain side. i am not on his side of the argument but i do respect his opinion and i generally believe he is an honourable politician.
There used to be many politicians like this.
@@garsm2290 agreed
This the kind of politician who’s so well versed in riding the fence...(fence sitting as an art)
Thankfully, they don't normally become popular with their mates so they never get to leadership. They are however recognised and employed as ’weapons grade’ emissaries and missions!!
I have spoken to Rory a couple of times and believe he is an honest man.
Rory Stewart isn't loathable, doesn't seem to be repeating the same phrase, I would respect him as leader of the opposition even if I don't agree with him
Unfortunately rationality isn't in demand, Boris the vainglorious or Jeremy (insert appropriate consonant)unt
Jesus wept
Martin Clements not loathsome? Take a look at his voting record
@@effinjamieTT ...wow, that was an eye opener!...always thought he was slimy, but after looking at his voting record, you're right, he is loathsome too!
How to look 15 and 85 at the same time
That's what drugs do to ya.
That's cracked me up
Brilliant
Like Ole Solskjaer......
@I'm Super Fat by the looks of his face, he has done it more than once.
Blimey, an honest Tory! There's a thing!
The same man that voted against the
Nurses bursary,
Against his and mates paying more tax,
And a lot more. He’s a typical Torai, just a different face
I detest the tories. But I like this guy. Feels a bit weird to be honest.
Second that buddy
It's because he is honest, humble and thoughtful. It's rare to see these days in politics, I know.
Everyone said that about Cameron.
@@andrewbaumann2661 Yet his voting record is no different from any other Tory.
Anyway, doesn't matter. He's going to get eliminated from the race pretty soon I guess. Tories are tacking further right by the day.
A politician that this country needs right now. Just by reading the comments, it shows that Rory can united people of different political backgrounds. None of us, people who voted for and against brexit, will get what we want, there was too many different, and inaccurate, versions of each side. The country needs someone who can genuinely try and unite the country understanding that both sides had their good and bad arguments, unlike some politicians that just continue to divide this country. I've been reading articles, watched Rory talk about Hedgehogs, hearing about his experience in Iraq & Afghanistan and reading his tweets and can say this man has got me interested in politics again, put faith in me someone can lead this country with his heart in the right place, not power hungry like most. I hope we all realise we won't get what we want with brexit, and hope the people who can elect Rory to be leader will realise his talents, experience and good nature. #voterory
I think there’s a chance the country is being played. I think that we’re being manipulated so that when Rory becomes Prime Minister we’re all delighted. And who’d have thought most people would be delighted by a new Tory PM?
How can Boris be deemed to be a better PM choice than Rory Stewart
Because Rory was a Remainer just like Kier, & Mrs May. Boris on the Brexit question was a lot more relatable.
Excellent interview, and James was sensible also. The minister makes the essential point that the UK is now different, and that compromise is necessary.if you want to avoid either extreme position. In fact, if you can get past the basckstop, even the ERG seems to be OK with the deal otherwise. So what is left to argue about there.
Less forcefully stated was the complete mess the EU and Europe are in. This remains the remainers blind spot. The EU is not going to be a place like it was during it's heyday pre-2008. It is now mostly about splitting the crumbs of an earlier pie.
Clever guy who understands nuance which seems in short supply today.
I like him. We hear a lot about 'plain speaking' which is actually meaningless (Farage etc), but this kind of plain speaking has content, and this guy actually tries out ideas to get things done. The others don't bother any more.
Farage speaks from the stomach, these guys speaks from the brain
OBrien is so much better when he allows people to speak and is civil
He's always civil
Yes, he is civil when he identifies that a guest might be smart enough to call out his bullshit tactics.
O'Brien is always polite and manages to keep his mouth shut for more than 5 seconds when he talking to someone who he agrees with.
Well he's speaking to a rational, sensible and intelligent person. That's the difference.
It's a different story when the guy on the other side of mic is an ideological idiot, like most of the callers O'Brien has to listen to.
What a curiously likeable Tory creature he is.
Harry Lagom. I hear you.
It's always nice to see a reasonable person willing to compromise. Those sort of creatures are critically endangered.
Do you trust him?
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realy ?
He's a Lib Dem in the wrong party.
As a natural born Irish citizen I find it almost incredible to think that an English politician (Andrew Bridgen) would believe that his English nationality would qualify him for a passport of a foreign country (Éire). My god, the arrogance and ignorance. We conducted a war of independence almost a hundred years ago for chrissakes!
He is undoubtedly ignorant, and he may be getting muddled because for some time (not sure how long) it's not been necessary for people travelling to Eire from the UK, and vice versa, to have a passport, but that's not the same as qualifying for citizenship.
Pelirroja my Grandfather was a Irish orphan in London. You forget that millions of Irish moved to the UK The English are a mix of English , Scots and Irish.
@@heather725 With respect, I feel it's a tiny bit disingenuous of you to assume I forget anything, and something so obvious at that. And just what does the genetic and social makeup of the British have to do with my original point anyway?
Yes I subsequently listened Andrew Brigden's actual statement about this and it didn't seem to depend on him thinking that he had any Irish ancestry. He just assumed that because he could travel to Ireland without a passport, he was entitled to Irish citizenship if he applied for it. Lol. Under the Good Friday agreement, I understand people in the North of Ireland can hold both British and Irish passports if they wish. Perhaps that also muddled Andrew Brigden's thinking. It's amazing how dim some of these politicians are though. Dominic Raab, currently standing for Conservative Party leader and therefore de facto P.M admitted he didn't realise the importance of the port of Dover for UK/EU trade, until he was appointed Brexit Secretary, a post he soon resigned from, but a subject he now feels qualified to deal with as P.M. Heaven help us! A person with Irish ancestry (parent or grandparent) can apply for Irish citizenship and I have my application ready, because I can see us heading for a hard Brexit now which would be disastrous.
@@heliotropezzz333 What's most astonishing to us in Ireland is that this fella Bridgen, who is wholly symbolic of the almost institutionalised dismissal and ignorance by many English people of Ireland, is one of those who pushed for Brexit. Ireland and the British-created border are the ONLY reasons for Brexit being at a standstill. It's like these people - these eejits - refuse to, or have massively failed to, recognise that Ireland is another country, not British, not part of the UK, and somehow still think that Irish people will just roll over into submission when required. And all this on the heels of another Tory m.p. Patel stating that perhaps it might be an idea to starve the Irish into submission through a food embargo (!) or David Davis appearing to not be aware that Sterling was not legal tender in Republic of Ireland. A certain anachronistic colonial mindset appears to still be at work.
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Reminds me of the old brits. Lawrence of arabia. Highly intelligent and measured
You mean a homosexual spy ?
An elite and ruthless.
Good interview. Why all the hate?! Sign of the times I guess :-(
AND O BIREN THE loony left ,know nothing .loves the ,,eu hates britain ,,and in the morning he will forget them ,pihhhhf.
I look like if the UK is following those failed state with bad regime going backwards as some extremists politicians are pushing it that way. As they are only looking at their own interests instead of the interest of the all country.
They turned democracy to tricksmocracy and crying out loud we want Brexit are democracy..Full of lies.
You lot keep saying you want the NHS, why not google and see the 200 MP's in companies draining the service you love. You people are less than hopeless.
Google "Selling off NHS for profit" and see which MP's are in companies which hike prices in the NHS - of course they will always give it more money as it goes to themselves.
Thanks for the help in selling it all off, idiots.
It isn't a dash of the cliff. The Tories have had 3 years and not one deal ready to go! Not one!
The world is bigger than the EU and yet people like yourselves will happily insult, hurl milkshakes and bang on about race and everything else but the problems we have in the country.
You can use all the fancy puffy words you like, in the end the truth will bury the deceiver. If we add up both referendum results, Nigel's party wins again :-)
If you think you get a fiar exchange rate when you travel, ok. But I lived in Spain, France, Germany, Belgium and Portugal and can tell you it is all going to crash. Being tied to this will detroy all people's wealth apart from those who have hidden it. But, keep on thinking it is a win and we know nothing about our country. Let us see where you deals gets us, but you can kiss goodbye to pension and NHS and your rights.
Elite? If you mean have I worked and saved all me and my partner could and bought a house and had a family and missed on lots of things but finish with house paid then yes, I am Above you! How do you feel if work made me an elite? You tools, lol.
You don't care about the loss of lives through murder, or those raped, sorry if that is cliche.
have you seen the NHS in Spain and Portugal? and their roads? public services? I say you then look at Britain again, and tell me who is about to crash. The NHS is just the beginning, schools are going next, and then the police. EU countries, are all veeeeery different as to be all place in one bag and say "look at what the EU has done". But the thing they had in common is they bet on social democracy on the whole, while the UK has always followed a more liberal approach. That is, i bet you, part of the reason why you have to work so hard to get a home in this country@@stum2730
Shocked..... Rory comes across really balanced and wise. Not what I was expecting, I like his approach.
Wise? He's going to try to push through a deal that was rejected FOUR times. You think that is wise? Mate, get your head checked.
@@shipwreckjs673 leaving with a deal is better than leaving without one.
We can always change the deal over time, we will have nothing to build upon without a deal.
Agreed Nigel. As a remainer myself I agree with his brexit approach. I'm not anti brexit just anti no deal and he's nailed why remaining now is a somewhat toxic move for many Europeans.
@The505Guys in a trading relationship of course the deal is open for updating over time. The EU will evolve and so should the UK.
What can't be changed is leaving without a deal and starting from scratch with zero trade agreements.
We should leave with something to build upon, not nothing at all. Forward, not backwards.
He should be doing ASMR podcasts on the side
Adam Smethurst...haha, so true...perhaps a series with Barry Gardiner and Alan Johnson lol
Never knew William Dafoe was English
*Scottish*
If all MPs and extremists on both sides could be as pragmatic as Rory Stewart there may actually be a way forward. Sadly the comments below suggest no such desire for pragmatism exists or is likely to any time soon.
It's a matter of principle really. We voted Leave, by 4% Majority (1.2 million votes). That's not "marginal" or insignificant, it's a clear majority.
The government are already in illegal territory due to breaking the EU (Withdrawl) Act 2018 back on 29th March (of which is now facing a legal challenge from ex-barristers and judges).
It's clear that "remaining" meant staying as is. "Leaving" was made clear it would involve leaving the EU and it's institutions. Many on the Pro-leave side said "we'll happily work with Europe though, and if we can get a half decent trade deal in mutual benefit we can walk away much better off". Even Leaving and using WTO rules or a "no tariff in kind" approach to imports (which will reflect poorly ont he EU if they slap us with Tariffs) is, presently, the best option for the UK.
Not being bound by EU Anti-Market rules to stife small business and innovation will lead to increased investment. It'll also mean our government can support industries like British Steel and the Car production industry without the EU Commission having to allow it or not (the EU Commission allowed France, Germany and Belgium to intervene in it's steel industries but denied us Brits doing so...twice). Not to mention we can cut VAT back to 15% & reform our economic system too.
None of this I've just mentioned, we can do remaining in the EU.
A decent conversation and I think I learned a few things that I hadn’t considered before. I also think Rory Stewart is underestimated, and (although I’m not a Tory supporter) I’d like him to have a more prominent role in the Brexit area, I think this type of measured and intelligent outlook would serve us all better than the likes of Bojo and Mogg, Also I find it really depressing looking at the first page of comments, which are almost exclusively petty and childish insults, it really doesn’t give me much faith in the public vote.
Well said, it was an interesting interview. Shame about the standard of some of the comments.
Yes finally a genuine and nice comment. Too many people keep calling each other names although they forget the point of an argument, well said.
MrArchie800 Stewart doesn’t come any where close to Reece Mogg
Did we vote remain by any chance, Mr Archie??
Mr Archies800 Yeah,the comments are so childish.I think you're right .he should have a more prominent role in Parliament.Perhaps he could be put where he's most suited?
Maybe head janitor?
Refreshingly intelligent ,calm and rational gives me a little hope top man rory
I do not understand the objection to a second referendum. Switzerland - the European country which makes the most decisions based on referenda - always has TWO referenda on an important issue: the first one at the outset in order to see whether there is a majority for a particular policy in principle and a second one when the government has drafted its policy to see whether the public want it or whether they would prefer what existed before or another alternative. Makes sense to me.
If the UK wanted to follow the Switzerland way - it should have said that when the referendum was first announced..... they didn't - Cameron said it would be a, " once in a lifetime vote " he also advised the country, that the people should vote to stay in a, "reformed European Union " something he personally could not achieve with countless meetings with EU leaders before the 2016 vote.... you are probably one of those people who had the " remain in the EU " had won, would not be now arguing for another referendum... the whole point of democracy is to respect the leave decision.... and no matter how difficult it could be... because the EU along with a certain ex-Prime Minister of the UK are hell bent in stopping Brexit at any cost which makes more people angry and determined to not give in by alarmist warnings of the country coming to a stand-still... and it you feel you need another referendum.... have one in ten years time ... you must respect the vote from June 2016.... end of.
@@jontymason1056 It was a 50% threshold advisory referendum unlike the one in 1975 which required 65% and got 67%. Politicians have lied and are now cornered and all exits are terrible for them and for the British people. What was an internal Tory Party psychodrama on the EU had now become a nationwide split. No, I will never accept that the whole affair was properly conducted - it wasn't - and will continue to back a second referendum. We will just have to disagree. End of.
Put it to another vote to see how strong it really is....comments boards are not how we decide matters in a parliamentary democracy. I still haven’t changed my mind and will not :)
@@davidlondon2810 What they should do is for the MPs to vote on legislation that puts the question to leave or stay to the public.... that would be the correct way for Parliamentary democracy to proceed - do you still not see how your comment sounds ? as long as you come up with stuff like that - it pretty much destroys any rational argument towards another vote.... nice one.
A second referendum wouldn't be like that. It would be for overturning the result of the first referendum.
This is a refreshing interview from a Tory. I know they do produce some thoughtful people. not many but Rory has been refreshing.
Great interview! Thank you!
Rory Stewart is world class - he is a delight to listen to.
Brexit is not, and should never be seen by impatient voters as the political equivalent of closing time down at your local pub.
He's the sort of politician who gives me some hope.
The most sense I have heard from any of the current politicians...Boris is a leader for a party at a brewery and Gove for a party in the Graveyard..this man is the only sensible choice to keep the man who has never held a job in his life JC away from the main job.
And yet the polling carried out suggested that Rory Stewart would've almost eradicated the Tory party and put Farage as the leader of the largest party (comfortably).
I quite like what I've seen of Rory as a person, but he's not a leader and he's certainly not the man for this particular juncture (if nothing else, as a result of the above).
How did I know this pair would begin a beautiful and meaningful relationship!?!
:(
Both public school rich families . The right sort !
I don't trust either of them . Obrien is quite obsessed .He fears democracy because it will remove him and his kind from prominence .
Graham Johnson you sound like an idiot. The majority are not wannabe fascists like you.
I can’t think of a single Tory in many many years that I haven’t despised for their politics of greed, lies, self interest, division, hypocrisy and hatred..........but this gentleman seems open minded, genuine, grounded, fair, sincere and honest. Rare indeed for most Tory slimebag hypocrites and their supporters.
Fair play to you Sir.......the “nasty” party needs to listen to you and learn some moderation and generosity.
I never thought I’d be quietly hoping that a Tory keeps talking.. this boy’s got more intelligence and integrity in his pinky than Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Francoise and Baker have combined..
A very precise and systematic brain at work here ! Rory Stewart gives us a glimmer of hope for the future.
A remainer interviewed by a remainer, without interruptions... LOL
HA!! HA!!! You nailed the content sumary of this video. The picture tells the rest.
O'Briens tone is all telling compared to the suppressed venom accorded to JRM
Sshh! The adults are speaking now.
But how is he a remainer? Have you watched the video? He is arguing for Brexit, ffs.
The people in this section calling James an idiot really need to sit down, have a nice cup of tea, and have a word with themselves.
They're intimidated by people who can present an actual argument. This is made entirely clear by their constant need to attack rather than defend their own position. It's the same with the leave voters who call in, their arguments are ripped to shreds by facts within moments. They quickly give up trying to sound like they know what they're talking about and start to claim truth is a conspiracy against them.
Truth Teller, yes yes yes but oak or pine?
If you start a sentence with "I believe..." on JOB's show you're toast unless you can back up your 'belief' with hard facts. That's what the Brexshitters seem to struggle with. Reality and facts.
Just had a nice cuppa he's still an absolute idiot.
spill Mikiigan
Loose tea or bag?
give this guy a fair chance this is from Dublin
Why bugger me, an intelligent Tory!
Rare as hens teeth😂😂
@Alt Fit Would have to be mad to vote for the socialists. Nationalise everything, screw up public finances and make future generations pay for it after Corbyn crashes the economy... God forbid that man gets into power.
Corbyn was brought up in a seven bedroom house in Shropshire and cannot connect with British working class peoples concerns on immigration and love of country
Woh...William Defoe looks better🙄
He's been out performing all the other candidates for the Tory's so far.
@James Thompson not the point, I am not a Tory he's out performed the other candidates
Quick question. Why wasn't what Rory Stewart is suggesting, (a detailed idea of what Brexit actually means to the UK), completed two years ago so we know exactly what we were voting yes or no to?
Leavers and their friends in the media would still have taken all the complicated facts and reduced them to anti-EU slogans, headlines and to further their version of "Project Fear" about migrants.
@@davidlondon2810 Brexit means Brexit.
meaningless Orwellian slogan. @@danieljohnson8240
Clever bloke Rory. O’Brien out of his depth hence little interruption and a certain deference
I get the impression that O'Brien interrupts politicians who avoid answering questions, then shout that they're being interrupted. That didn't happen here...just my 2p.
Really?
This was uploaded in December 2018,
The reason Bojo won't do serious interviews is that he doesn't know anything,
The speech was written for him, and fed to him by autocue,
Do we really want Boris as the face of our country,
The country deserves someone that can solve the massive problems we all face,
A leader has to bring the party together,
I see Rory as that person, he speaks a lot of sense and for me, he was the best of all the candidates in the tv debate,
Hopefully, the party will look past the populism of Bojo and see he could divide the country more than it already is.
Refreshing intellectual non-confrontational view - Rory Stewart for PM
intellectual and non-confrontational: hence he wont be elected, sadly!
Can you imagine him against Xi Jinping, Putin, Kim Jong Un etc hahaha
Hes too weak
Tony Blair mark 2. No thanks.
@@CardinalHijack He's as weak as you are lazy.. read up on the man ...
Rory is a good lad tbf
Harry Burrows anybody that has gone out of their way to learn in 11 languages gets my vote. Certainly not a career politician and Shames most of them
one of the few remotely good Tories
👍 Rory well said 👍 So sensible !
Remainers fawning over each other. They should get a room.
they are both talking about leaving the EU, so they are both leavers
Excellent interview. Much as I disagree with Rory's assertions that our relationship with the EU may be irreparable if we ended up remaining within it, and I wish he'd call out bullshit within his party in stronger terms, but he's a very intelligent, insightful and sensible minister. I'd have him as PM over Raab or Johnson or McVey or Javid or Hunt or Harper or Leadsom or Gove any day of the week.
@Ma Boi Scotty Thanks mate! You're not wrong; there's too much vitriol between people with opposing views nowadays, much to our detriment.
But this respect, unlike the other leadership candidates, is a quality that Rory brings out in people and has in himself; to be measured, to have a conversation rather than a slanging match, to listen and work out a viable compromise. It's a trait that's all too uncommon in politics, and it's a trait I think we could really do with now in a leader, to calm us down a bit as a nation.
I mean, he's intelligent, he knows he'll get eaten alive if he goes against the party in that manner.
Sanity and pragmatism are in short supply in the modern Tory party,that is why they are going through an "existential" crisis,one that they don't deserve to survive.
I like rory even tho i disagree with him. Obrien scandously ignores all remainer lies and honestly thinks only BREXITEERS got facts wrong. I cant stand the man.
Nothing found to be illegal though
@@tom4590 more elite attempts to stop brexit. No different to lies by remain
Boris Johnson forced this guy to leave Parliament, and promoted Nadine Dorries to cabinet minister.
Says it all, really.
Let's hope Boris offers this man a top job.
stewart already said he'd not work for boris in any form, sadly
I’d love to share an evening of conversation with Rory Stewart, he is very interesting
I find it unbelievable the comments about this
people did NOT listen to this interview but commented
I suggest you should listen to it and think about what was said
Not sure you will though
Is there any interview you would listen to that would make you change your mind?
British people should listen to their own conscience and stop believing in propaganda
from journalists and politicians and for once start believing in themselves!
@@Peter-uj8ye Or do their own research maybe.
I find it unbelievable that you did listen to this interview and still support him. He's essentially advocating for the UK to become a colony of the EU. At least the remainers want us to maintain our power within the EU. This idiot wants us to leave an have no say either. He's nothing but Tmay 2.0 trying to please everyone and ending up pleasing no one.
@@matthewnevin9156 Err its a withdrawal agreement not a permanent agreement
Even if I don't agree with the guy he clearly is smart, and apparently also decent and sincere.
Such a shame the Tories got rid of Rory Stewart.
He tried.
I was hoping for Rory when many were falling for the charm of lies that pour from Boris. Well he's still alive so here's hoping
Since when was the EU proposal a treaty which included detail on the future trading tariffs between the 2 parties?
The only treaty that matters is the good Friday agreement.
@Stephen Bermingham : one of many treaties the U.K. has internationally. I see no reason for the U.K. to be forced into a political trade deal by way of threatening a hard boarder, If anyone will impose one it will be the EU.
Let us stick to free trade, everything else will follow on from there.
The problem is that at the moment what is on the table does not detail what we are transitioning to, therefore in my view it is an invalid agreement as it is just a replacement agreement which puts the U.K. into a straight jacket.
As one MP said in the House of Commons last year “It is a trap then”.
I might try speaking without moving my jaw and just using my lips......just for the lols
This is the most impressive voice I’ve heard from the political world and I’m not even a conservative voter.
James a paradigm shift took place as your guest acknowledges you really need to embrace it.
Politicians are really not that well educated are they.... This has been clearly demonstrated throughout brexit.
Yep most of the Labour mps failed their 11 plus
I have never voted Tory but I think this guy could persuade me
He's thoughtful and genuine and has a good track record. Unfortunately most of his party are rank amateurs at best, hell bent on self interest at worst. He is a gifted anomaly within the Conservative party.
Very bright thoughtful man
he's far to competent and reasonable for us to deserve him as PM, its a shame skilled politicians are out of vogue
Good point I agree but it’s worse to pedal anymore cynicism. Years of cynicism has cost us dearly and could cost us a lot more. We sorely need a strong, intelligent and passionate leader and have done for many years. This man may well be the first example of one FINALLY! Stand up man! Be hopeful and passionate about what you WANT. Pointing out what we deserve or don’t deserve paints the UK as a weak country which will make us weaker still. People need to stop cleverly pointing out issues cynicaly as if it’s a virtue and start supporting the pursuit of solutions or we, are all going to slide into a disaster
Amazed and astounded,A politician who admits he got it wrong,Im stunned,Truly stunned with this mans integrity
Good interview with some honest straight forward commits. Too bad we do not have this more oftener. Now where will end up as it’s a 3-party split between Leave. Stay. Middle ground.!!!!!!
Withdraw from the political institutions but remain in the economic - in other words - have your cake and eat it!
What gets me is the remoaners had the chance to vote the first time around but didn't care for their country enough to vote the first time around so why should we give people who didn't care the first time around a chance to vote a second time around? They had all the campaigns thrown in their faces for over a very long period before the first vote and they chose to ignore it so they had the chance and they lost so as far as many of us are concerned they don't deserve to have a second chance if they didn't care about it in the first vote and lets face it they had a chance to vote? As for James O'Brien i have no idea why he even has a radio show because he is nothing more than a man who comes across as if he has serious depression and a life that he hates. Look at that face and look how he comes across on a daily basis? Say's it all.
The only way to get out of this deadlock, is that we get someone as PM that has balls, puts no deal back on the table, then goes back to the EU again.
And with a new PM and no deal back on the table, I’m absolutely sure they will reopen the negotiations. Is that friggin simple. But May has to go. .
Small problem. Parliament wont pass it. Remember parliament the people you voted for in 2017 ( after the referendum) .Plus a no deal exit will trash several inernational treaties .Nobody will ever take Britain seriously ever again.
That’s just plain silly. Your threatening the EU that you will punch yourself in the face and they might get blood on them, genius.
Read the good Friday agreement and you will then know why brexit doesn't happen in any meaningful sense.
It was Never negotiating it was a technical legal process that has been controlled by the UKs obligations under the good Friday agreement.
It's that simple, no emotions just facts.
A very interesting Interview - thank you.
Genuinely think Rory may have the unfortunate answer there, to bring two warring sides together is to mutually compromise them
I served in Iraq in 2003-4 and after the invasion i was attached to the CPA, Rory Stewart was there during that time and came across as a really decent guy and very intelligent. If i was too vote for a new leader it would be him or JRM...
All politicians say what they think the public want to hear. Not rocket science.vote me then once I'm in I'll change my mind like they all do.
If the vote had been 52-48 with remain winning, how would they not have alienated the leave side?
MHL83 You see it’s both sides that are alienated from each other, it would be the same. Instead of being part of a progressive and reforming the EU poorly advised people backed leave. But ultimately no one wins and can be happy as the country has been divided. Thank Cameron for that.
Farage is on record saying if his side lost by only 5 % then he would fight on... just as the retainers are doing.
@@KosmicCharley And remainers should fight on too, but we should at least enact the result of the last referendum, otherwise do we really live in a democracy? Enact it, then remainers go nuts and campaign to your heart's content.
@@sp4rtavus244 Most EU countries say the EU needs reform. If they can't make it happen, how will it ever happen? I agree Cameron was the wrong PM to hold the referendum, but it would have happened one day. The whole point of a referendum is that one side wins, the other loses. When we voted to stay in 70's we didn't come half out to keep the people who voted leave then happy. Likewise, Scotland didn't half leave the UK in 2014. It's a daft argument.
@@mhl8396 Seriously? The referendum wasn't binding, if it had been legal & binding then it would have been rerun due to all the anomalies, so I see no reason to enact an unlawful result, so the democracy argument is bogus. Once we are out we are out. Do you seriously think the EU will want to deal with a bunch of ne'er do wells like the UK? If we did get back in it would take at least a decade and it would be with vastly different conditions. No rebate etc. What would you suggest we do in the meantime? Make magnificently easy trade deals with the US?? No thanks, I like my NHS, I need my NHS... Asthma's like that. No, I think we should fight tooth & nail to keep in with the EU, if nothing else for our own protection against predators like US pharmaceutical & insurance companies.
I truly wish this was/is not the case but I see Rory Stewart being one of the greatest Prime Ministers this country never has.
I like Rory Stewart. I really hope he becomes PM but that's a pipe dream.
He never looks at James, weird.
You don't need to in a radio interview. What matters is whether each person is listening to the other, and that's at a high standard from both, here.
It is somewhat weird. Wonderful interview though.
Charlie Brathwaite I agree
spf_fishing How rude!
He's a very intelligent introvert - and like most of them he is likely more concerned about what hes saying than how he looks.
Took a sensible middle ground approach and tried to give answers to questions. Still no sense in leaving, but it will happen, so at least he accepts the inevitable but with a certain pragmatism. If we have to have Tories I’d rather it were him negotiating.
Rory has the right viewpoint that this country needs from a leader .we as a nation need to ask ourselves what type of country do we want to be and we must understand that extreme polarised government will result in instability for decades until we learn to compromise.
i have never voted for the tory party in 40 years but i would consider doing so if this man were its leader
he seems honest, genuine and wise and recognises that politics is not only about the party but the british people.
Put him in a dress and you've got another Theresa the appeaser.
@@davidbarlow350
well i think he is different in his approach, he recognises that tax cuts for the already wealthy is not the way to protect britains economy. and he recognises that a no deal brexit may be what suits some who think that nothing bad is going to happen , or at least not to them but will effect the economic stability others for decades
sensible negotiation that allows the uk economy to work for everyone is the way forward
@@jtk1ify And yet another project fear believer.
I repeat my original description.put him in a dress and you simply have another Theresa May,willing to sell this Country out to the EU globalists and appease George Soros and the Bilderbergs.
Leaving the EU is about more than your wallet.
@@davidbarlow350 not project fear David but reality. i have no doubt that britain can go alone but it will take decades to get back to where we are now economically, its not about me and my wallet its about the youth and their future.
Andit is about the money for the elite David, its about the 39B that johnson wants with his no deal walk away to buy the uk voters with tax cuts
the working class always pay the cost
we lost this batttle when we joined the EU decades ago
stay in europe and fight for a europe that benefits Britain
@@jtk1ify Isn't it odd how you criticise the globalist's policies yet are straining at the leash to be subjugated by them?
Don't believe me,then take a look at what Trump is doing to change this NWO that you are so willing to be enslaved to.
Imagine thinking there was a balanced way to approach governing a diverse country. It is both a reason why I'd like to see him succeed, and also the main reason he will not.
No fan of tories, but Stewart does indeed seem rather sensible. But unfortunately this is a time for nationalistic rabble-rousers and agitators - he can't win.
O'Brien realising that his hard remainer position is not tenable and may have to accept some form of BRINO.
two remainers having a chat.
Love your command of the English language James.👍
Have you proposed to the snowflake yet? Fawning isn't a pretty characteristic in a man.
Does anyone actually still care about Westminster? Parliament has proven not fit for the purpose of delivering Brexit. Shuffling the MPs around in a Tory leadership contest, or even a general election will not solve this problem. Our political system can’t deliver on difficult, divisive issues.
Then the intelligent question would be: Was it ever realistic in the first place?
what was the crisis that led to Brexit? I don't remember it.
@Him Next Door I'm serious. I get it that people were misled into thinking that Britain had lost control of its money, its borders and its laws, but none of that was true. I don't remember any emergency. But the government is now in emergency planning mode. We were not in 2015 or 2016.
@Him Next Door And the emergency was what, exactly?
You do realize that aligning the laws is part of the Single Market that actually makes it easier for us to trade with each other. What is wrong with that? Also it means that everyone obeys the same rules so that we can compete on a level playing field. That is about fairness, something that we Brits understand very well. As a wealthy nation we do very well out of the Single Market and Customs Union. Like Germany which is also a net contributor. You do realize that the £325m / week was a lie. And the borders thing applied both ways. Brits are far more likely to move to other EU countries than they are likely to move to the UK. About twice as likely in fact.
Wasn't it Rees Mogg and co were worried their tax haven money would be discovered and they'd have to pay tax?
One of the very few tories that has any sort of intellectual reasoning...shame he's on the wrong side
damian mccarney the right side being Labour? Yeah let’s all vote for an anti Semitic terrorist loving uk hater and all be skint in 6 months. Where do I sign?
He was a member of the Labour party.....interestingly
What I've come to understand is that the central issue, Brexit, is almost irrelevant. This divide is just demonstrating the fact that modern Western government needs to adapt to modern technology or it will die in obscurity.
thought that was william dafoe in the thumbnail lol
I think we need someone new and who isn't particularly known in politics. I think he does come across quite well.
JENNIFER BLOOMFIELD Are you on drugs?
@@davidbarlow350 probably! What's the alternative... oh right yeah! Hmm. But what do I know!
@@jenniferbloomfield2486 Perhaps the alternative is let the Tories and Labour disappear up their own backsides.
For three years the electorate has been ignored and treated with utter contempt.
Whoever gets to lead the remainer Tory Party,you'll still have the same lefties pulling the strings.(yes,i did say lefties).
@@davidbarlow350 I disagree with you. People asked to leave and they left. The difference is they were trying to get a deal before we left so Britain wouldn't go to ruin. They were trying to do what's best for both. But your right if you feel like we have been let down let's have an election and then you can choose. We are already going with a no deal so we might aswell prolong the agony. I was mostly going by the person who had the best deal other then brexit. But of course that seems to be all some people care about at the moment. In that case why don't you except we have left then. It's people like you that keep prolonging it. Well done leavers got what they wanted. We are leaving it's not us, it's not the government that keeps making a big deal about it. It's the leavers. So in case you still haven't got this TECHNICALLY AND LEGALLY WE HAVE LEFT THE EU THIS REMAINS TRUE FOR HALLOWEEN. THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING YO GET A DEAL. BUT WE WILL LEAVE ON HALLOWEEN ANYWAY UNLESS IT GETS STOPPED! WHICH IT WON'T.
@@jenniferbloomfield2486 Actually ,technically we have already left the EU on March 29th,if you follow the Robin Tillbrook case,although i don't suppose your BBC would have mentioned this.
For most of us voting leave it wasn't about a "deal",but getting rid of our EU overlords and getting our Country back.
For three years Treason May and Parliament (with the Lords)have colluded with the EU to over-ride a democratic vote.
Less than 5% of British businesses deal with the EU,so most of the barriers put up are self inflicted and project fear orientated.
Take a look at the Lisbon Treaty and the EU army to see what's in store for the poor sods remaining in.
The EU is finished,as are the globalists.The West is waking up to the damage they've done,and Nation states will begin to emerge.
O'Brien doesn't want any solution other than remain to win. It is pointless wasting breath on the likes of him.
What's your solution then?
@@LukeofSmeg We had a referendum and we voted to Leave, the solution has already been decided by a democratic vote. If the undemocratic remoaners in the hoc continue to block no deal they must be sent packing at the next GE.
@@ev4612 No you clearly voted to leave. I didn't. It's because of democracy that I will continue to be a remainer. I dissagree with Jacob Rees-Moggs views on gay marriage, but I wouldn't say he's undemocratic or not allowed to hold his beliefs because the vote didn't go his way. The "solution" was not decided by democratic vote, if it was, we would have left by now. Nigel Farage chucked us in the deep end and hoped the Tories (of all people) would tell us how to leave without even knowing how themselves. I gave Brexiteers the benefit of the doubt. I didn't think it would work, but I'd liked to have seen them do something, and I gave Brexit a chance, but nearly 3 years later, after David Davis, Boris Johnson, and Dominic Raab (all Brexiteers) proved they didn't have a clue, and completely failed to achieve the things that were promised, I gave up on any idea of Brexit. Now Nigel Farage has come back claiming he could have done a deal that no one else has, yet fails to explain what that is. He's a mainstream career politician who's convinced his voters he isn't, yet he has no policy, and no idea about how the EU should be reformed or left, even though he avidly campaigns for it. At a general election his only hopes are relying on brainwashed populists who'll genuinely vote for a party with no policy, and call people that dissagree with them "remoaners" even though moaning about the EU is still, in every sense of the word, moaning.
@@LukeofSmeg we could always pay Barnier or Verhofstdat to do our negotiating for us.
After all, our cowardly useless Liberal minded MPs are no longer up to the job.
Alternatively get Donald Trump to deal for us.
@@davytornado9772 Yeah Donald could make the EU pay for it too. x'D I can almost hear him now... "Blockade the Eurotunnel", "Drain the Norfolk broads", "When Brussels sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're bringing bureaucracy. They're bringing tariff free trade. They're bureaucrats. And some, I assume, are good people."