Betty Broderick Murder Case | Mental Health & Personality
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- This video answers the questions: Can I analyze the Betty Broderick case? What are the mental health and personality factors at work in this case? Was she guilty of second-degree murder? Support Dr. Grande on Patreon: / drgrande
In the DSM we see that Histrionic Personality Disorder has eight symptom criteria, five or more are required for diagnosis
1. is uncomfortable when not the center of attention
2. interactions with other people are characterized by inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behavior
3. rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions
4. using physical appearance to draw attention to yourself
5. style speech that is excessively impressionistic
6. is self-dramatizing and theatrical, exaggerated expression of emotion
7. suggestible
8. evaluates relationships as more intimate than they actually are
Narcissistic personality disorder is a Cluster B personality disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual. It has nine symptom criteria, five of which are required for a diagnosis.
1. Grandiose sense of self-importance
2. Fantasies
3. Special or unique
4. Requires excessive admiration
5. Sense of entitlement
6. Manipulative
7. Lacks empathy for others
8. Often envious
9. Arrogant attitudes or behaviors
Borderline personality disorder (BPD) is a Cluster B personality disorder that has nine symptom criteria, five of which are required for a diagnosis:
1. frantic efforts to avoid abandonment
2. unstable relationship pattern
3. identity disturbance
4. impulsivity in two areas that are potentially self-damaging
5. suicidal behavior
6. affective instability
7. chronic feelings of emptiness
8. inappropriate or intense anger or difficulty controlling anger
9. paranoid ideation or severe dissociation
American Psychiatric Association. (2013). Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders (5th ed.). Arlington, VA: Author.
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Have seen a lot of Betty Broderick’s in my profession. (Lab technologist at a local hospital). I can count past my ten fingers and ten toes that it has happened to acquaintances and friends. They are all in love when they are putting their husbands or wives through med school. But it seems like when the Docs go into private practice they look for something new. And does it always seem to be the secretary? I know after my ex husband bashed my face in and I got out of the hospital, I made up my mind that I was never going to be dependent on another man for my existence. I am 72 and retired. This happened to me when I was 25.
So many people weren't part of Betty's generation. Women commonly put men through law and med school. Maybe dropped out of college to do it. I knew girls who wrote and typed boyfriends papers as undergrads! And too often at middle age, they were traded in. Hope this isn't still a norm for young women.
Well done, Sandra. I am 58 ys old and for sure won‘t let another man enter my private life. Why on earth were we being taught the Mantra that we should fight other women just to have a man?
Kim Essex Thanks Kim
Christina Mueller Thank you
@@sandranorman5469 good for you!!! I hope you are doing amazing and thank you for inspiring women to stand on their own two feet never dependent on anyone. My mom was abused and financially abandoned by my father.
Although the ordeal was very traumatic & painful, I was taught to be self sufficient and told to be independent.
She didn’t stay at home, she worked while he went to school.she stayed home after he graduated.
@Katie P. Medical school THEN law school.
@Katie P. Twice - he did a medical degree then a law degree she stayed at home raising the children The minute he was successful he dumps her for Linda..........then used his knowledge to fleece her financially. She did not get a fair settlement
@@jo5707 anyone who thinks over 10 grand a month in alimony is insufficient for a housewife who didn’t even have custody must live one decadent, velvet cushioned ass, unemployed, daytime tv watching, bon-bon magazine subscribing suburbanite life 😂
she worked 2 or 3 jobs even while pregnant to put him through law and medical school
She also typed all his briefs and helped him study. His college buddies couldn’t figure out how everything seemed so easy for him. (In the Netflix reenactment)
As an ex wife I can say that one can go crazy when you give your life to someone and they replace you for the new model. You are left older, with kids and now without a life. She needed lots of therapy to work through her place in the world after her marriage ending.
This is why you MUST have a life outside of your family. Being married with kids cannot be your sole identity.
Love is all there is, family is all there is for a man or for a woman. It is terrifying because treason is so common now, and people try to adapt to that fear by valuing something else over family, but that is a lie that we tell ourselves. There is no replacement for love and family, It sucks because these days love, family and all of these primary things are almost dead thanks to 70 years of brutal social engineering.
All men and women take the same risk when we enter a relationship - one may choose to leave it one day. And if you get left, that's sad but it doesn't give you the right to kill the other person, no matter how insensitively he or she behaves.
@@humanbeing2420 What happens when everything else goes wrong with the sin of your scum ass husband who is lying and cheating and stopping you from legal counsel? I've been down that road. Everything gets cut off, you struggle to find help and assistance. You start to lose reality, nobody is listening to you, even your kids start agreeing with the one who is cheating, like I should just deal with it.! My ass!!!!!!! People should understand that putting someone else in that toxic mentality can and probably will lead to someone's death, whether it's mentality, physically, socially or spiritual, END STOP.
she needed therapy from day one. read up on her cold-as-ice parents who were MIA for both trials. Betty's problems go waay back. as for her performance on the stand if there are no tears then technically it's not 'crying'.
My father taught us when young to never depend on a man for money, to be independent, go to school. He would repeat it over and over again, you need to be financially independent. Especially in the case any of his daughters ended up with an abusive man, ended up a widow, etc. I think he saw his sisters go through a lot and wanted to prepare us for reality.
My father said similar to me. He was far from perfect, but when he was dying he told me to never stay with a man that hits me. Because a man who hits you doesn’t love you. He also told me not to get married and to get educated instead. To be independent. Better advice than what my mother gave me.
You r Dad was a a wise man
My dad was a wonderful man. His advise was rich in education, travel, and management of assets, credit and how to enjoy life. I married a man who told me that my dad was a man of unique and treasured talent. Good men are also treasures!
That’s what my parents drummed into my head… I’m single now and have a great career raising my children. I’m now 54.
Every parent should be like your father.
Girls are taught to catch a man, have children and live happily after. They are putting their own life in another person's hand. Yes, some women are very lucky to have a responsible husband but most are not so fortunate because people can and do change.
Even if one is lucky enough to marry a forever faithful husband, one or more of the following events can still happen : he loses his job, he gets sick or disabled, he dies, he goes to jail etc etc. So, girls, get educated, get a good job, never totally stop working because you never know what lies ahead.
At 47 husband discarded me for a 22 year old. Not saying I'd do what Betty did, but I get it. I so get it. Fortunately, I found my own groove but it took a few years.
I’m glad you did xxx
Well done!
Some men are so lame!!!
So sorry 😢
Just think - if his health deteriorates, she will have to take care of him. Karma at its finest!
One of the aggravating factors that enraged Betty the most was that she worked her tail off during the first 8 to 10 years of the marriage. She was their sole support the entire time Dan was in med and law school. She often held down multiple jobs, all while having and rearing their family, doing all the housework and all the cooking.
Betty felt she was entitled to the good life Dan's success had bought because in her eyes (and the eyes of millions of other women looking on) she had worked every bit as hard for Dan's success as he had. To have her reward ripped out from under her and handed to a younger, prettier version of herself (in her eyes) was just too much to take.
Hippie Dachshunds ... that last sentence was basically what happened. And yes, it was too much for her.
They took out loans, her salary could not support them. No right to kill them.
So how awesome to leave a man like that and move on and thank God she didn’t have to have another 10 years with him,,,, just move out... not kill you psycho!!
That was part, but he took her kids.
Tonya Jones, yes he took the kids because SHE took one by one at his doorstep leaving them there, in order to punish him...
For the life of me I can not understand HER TWISTED thinking !!! Dan jr. was only 10 !!! Leaving him at his fathers home on his own ???
To me, Betty was all about Betty !!! And the fact that she came second best in her ex’s eyes ....
I have been following this story, since it happened, back in the 80’s....
She stole his home key from her daughter to invade his home WHILE they’re sleeping !!!!
She walked in WITH A GUN !!! Who does that !!! Only a desperate, NO LIFE human being that was because she loosing all the benefits and the status that came with the “ package “ she called marriage and family ....
I really believe that, because she over stepped “ family value “ and civil human interaction in order to take revenge on him because he wasn’t willing to put up with her neuroticism ....and of course his infidelity!!!
It is clear, what made this man to look for “ greener pastures “ ...
And finally, she took his and her life without taking in consideration HER and HIS children and the impact her actions would have in their lives!!!
Im sorry .... for the life of me I still cannot understand or accept her thinking and behaviour...
Thirty years on, she has not changed one little bit ....
At one of Oprah’s interviews, with her, she was asked if she was sorry, if she had any remorse of everything that happened ....
Her answer was very quick : “ of course I’m sorry !!!! But .....he did this and did that ... blurting out all we have heard a million times till now, attempting to justify her wrongful actions for taking two lives and same time punishing her kids too ...even though she’ll never admit it ....
She’s a narcissistic woman with no morals and values and most of all deprived of any human emotion ...she’s destroyed her family and killed two people and still tries to justify her actions, every chance she gets....
I feel great compassion for these four kids that were caught between her fury and hate for their father ...
No wonder they’ve testified against her !!! That says everything !!!
I have absolutely NO sympathy for her, and she IS where she needs to be..... I hope the rest of her life ....
I can relate to Betty in some ways. My husband had an affair, gaslighted me to death, and then divorced me right after his mother died to be with the much younger other woman. His mother was a devout Christian who had been left for the other woman, as well. She would have disowned him financially if she had known about the affair. She didn't know about the affair: I thought at the time of the divorce he was having an affair, but when I confronted him about it he would call me crazy, evil, etc. I finally learned there had been an affair, and the reason he wanted a divorce was to be with the other woman. The timing of the divorce was so that he could keep his inheritance. Again, his mother would have been extremely upset with her son if she had known the truth. My ex-husband inherited millions of dollars; inheritance is not joint property, so he got to keep it. I was extremely angry; felt used. After our divorce, I know he took the other woman on lavish trips, bought her cars, etc, and I lived paycheck to paycheck. I work in education, so I was not living the high life. But unlike Betty, I had to accept what happened and move on. It was not easy and cried myself to sleep many nights. My ex is a covert narcissist, so learning about the disorder has helped me gain some clarity. The worst part about all this was not the affair, but the parental alienation that followed the divorce. He has tried to drive a wedge between me and my daughter. Parental alienation makes adultery look like child's play. My daughter is a young adult now and our relationship is still not the best, but, again, there is not much I can do, but try to be the bigger person.
So sad to learn of the evil you have had to endure. Your daughter will learn on her own to see you for the person you are her father based on his overt actions and words. God bless. Good will prevail.
You are a brave courageous woman. I'm glad you did not go down the road of revenge but chose to pick yourself up and heal. One day karma will get to him. But till then, just forgive but not forget. Do this for you
it's better to just invest in yourself so that when things turn sour, you just walk away without an ounce of bitterness. Protect yourselves guys
Yes, protect yourself.
I'll be honest - thank GOD I had watched the Betty Broderick Story several times before my ex-husband did the exact same thing to me. Unless you have given up your youth, been gaslighted for years, been replaced, been humiliated in your social circle, had your wealthy ripped away, had your retirement stolen (to buy his girlfriend a pet store because she always wanted one), and been controlled by your ex-husband financially control you post-divorce (e.g. refusing to pay alimony or arrears, constant threats of withholding support or taking you back to court, taking another job without informing you, gone hungry, had to sell your clothes and jewelry to buy gasoline/food, had your car repossessed because he won't pay the note, have your houses foreclosed because he needs his money for his new house, seen your kids not attend college because he needs his money to send her kids to college) - there is no way you can find fault in Betty. I was on the brink of insanity a million times for 8 years and Betty's story kept me from snapping too.
She put him through school and invested her life in him. When he was making hundreds of thousands a month, she got $16,000? You think that's an equitable return on investment?
Camila Torres my theory is that when he manipulates the children against her is when she snapped. I believe she did love him.
@@rebekatalebi8046 Oh yes, she loved him. - no doubt. But her actions were not of a broken-hearted woman, it was a woman that was fighting the whole legal system in San Diego from casting her aside while they celebrated the two POS cheaters. It's not easy to see someone take your life away.
I'm sorry this happened to you, love, but I'm glad you persevered. 💪🏿
@@TomikaKelly Thank you but all the thanks goes to God, who carried me. I went through a lot but I know that it could have been worse.
Never depend on a man for your happiness and always have a backup plan if the relationship doesn't work out.
OR better yet, don’t use people to get ahead in life and then screw them over once you’re successful.
Period. You can’t put your happiness in the hands of a man🥴
Or better yet, dont kill two people and expect your kids to adore you for your selfish actions.
@@philwill0123 murder is far from the worst thing a person can do.
@@Alexis-dr4yoway to justify your opinion... im sure that Bettys kids are thoroughly reassured by that viewpoint.
The husband was a narcissist. He chose his victim well. He used her right from the beginning to further his career, then traded her in for a younger version. What a dirty old man.
Yup. He was one. Interesting that they diagnosed her with NPD.
Agreed.
Agreed
@@peacehappyb237
Victims of Narc abuse can come across as narcissistic themselves bc they’re constantly pleading THEIR case which of course is not narcissistic at all. And since no one believes then due to the smear campaigns and gaslighting, they can see very self involved. The ultimate victim is someone who is victimized by one of these Narcs Bc they are NEVER believed. So sad
Yeah...Betty did all the hard work and then the new wife Linda reaped the benefits
The one big mistake Betty made was physically dumping the children at Dan's doorstep during the divorce. She thought she was going to "get him" but ended up losing her children because she didn't show that she wanted custody. Then complained about it. She never should have given them up willingly.
She did not want them, without HIM though.
@Olu Bukonla exactly, everyone skips over the children's accounts of what Betty was like as a mother to them. Their dad wasn't perfect either, but they recall alot of neglect from their mother if it was not getting their fathers attention.
They both played staggering retaliation games !!!@@olubukonla7352
Why have an affair? Just leave. Torturing someone mentally unstable is just asking for trouble.
Yall are pretty fucked up tbh
@Adam Efimoff I don't know. Murdering two people is far more horrific if you ask me.
@@Assimandeli without context or mitigating circumstances that is the rule. This case is the exception.
The mentally ill person that had a mental breakdown due to years of coercive abuse is not nearly as culpable for their actions as the person who, day after day, relentlessly bombards the mentally ill individual with covert abuse tactics. The court should have recognized what was going on and held him accountable instead of enabling and encouraging his abuse. This is far more sinister.
Good call. That was actually part of her defense.
@Adam Efimoff I've met narcissists who love antagonizing their ex for the attention. I think this may have been the case... Two women fighting over him, must have been a rush for narc. Usually the woman (or man) antagonized will commit suicide, end up with several psychological problems or get help albeit left traumatized.
Its a cautionary true life story! A woman shd never make a man her everything. Sad sad tale
Indeed nettie
and a cautionary true life story that men should never cheat on their spouses
Agree
You'd think Fatal Attraction would have done that!
A cheat is a cheat - I feel sorry for her and understand why she doesn't feel remorse. He cheated, lied, and basically killed her identity.
All these years I thought Betty Broderick was justified in being angry. I wouldn't have gone as far as she did. Dan messed with the wrong woman.
Married the wrong woman is more like it. He unwittingly married a murderer.
Why does the husband get to fine her? He isn't the court.
Not condoning what she did but this woman put her husband through medical school and then law school and he rewarded her by having an affair with his much younger secretary. He was the worst. I can imagine how angry she felt at being so disrespected and humiliated
exactly!
I'm with you! He was an absolute prick and tormented her, holding his income, kids, etc. over her head. Who cares that he is dead.
Yep
Dan cut Betty out of his life and Linda slithered right in there.
She made the choice to have children with a student. That was her decision. She did not put him through school - he did the work and he paid the school loans. She was not a nice wife to him and her nasty, abusive personality really came to life when she was abusing his new wife. Why do women her age think that marriage is some sort of slave relationship that one cant get out of? It's a crazy barbaric mentality and one that no doubt ends in violent murder.
You know, I visit Greenwood Cemetery on a regular basis and I often pass by the Broderick Kolkena grave. It’s a monument style and very hard to miss. Nobody ever visits or places flowers there. The house is also in my neighborhood and it didn’t sell for many years. Kolkena often pursued married men. She lost an airline job because of her inappropriate behavior. Just some additional information.
She was predatory.
Nothing!! Justifies murder
He didn’t justify the murder. He simply added his observation. Linda was portrayed as an innocent victim in the trial and in the original mini series. In fact, Linda engaged in problematic behavior designed to hurt Betty. Did she deserve to die? No. Would Dan and Linda have had a happy marriage? I doubt it. I think Dan would have eventually devalued and discarded her too. A true narcissist.
@@bitterspice5525 .
She was 20 years old when fired as flight attendant!!! Paleeeezzze. A baby.
I 100% recognize the anguish within her. Every time she talks about it, especially for a while a few years afterwards, her voice would go back to that same place of hurt. She was broken and did not receive the help and support she needed after being “thrown away” by her husband for a newer model. More than 16 years of marriage, five pregnancies, and practically raising four children on your own as you put your husband through school is a lot for one person to shoulder. It’s wonder she had an emotional break 😪. My heart goes out to all involved in this sad story, but I hear the hurt in her.
Nine pregnancies actually, five live births.
Yes she was used and sacrificed years of her life,, putting him through school showed the traits of an empath, probably didn't receive the emotinal help she needed especially after being suicidal/after losing a child/his serial cheating and thrown away he basically took her life from her too he sounded like a narcissist who drove an empath to the brink from so much unapprecation, disrespect, betrayal. One can only take so much.
She was actually pregnant 9 times: she had 4 miscarriages, and one who died days after being born. And she claimed Dan practically raped her on their wedding night. So I can see why she resented him during their marriage.
Sure keep defending the murderer. She’s the victim. Betty was a sick, narcissist psycho. She was always looked after, had a chance to have a relationship with her kids, she had a bf after her marriage but she couldn’t get over her sick need for vengeance. She chooses to live in jail now rather than express remorse. She could choose a relationship with her kids instead.
Everybody wants kitten not cat
It's interesting to revisit these cases now that I know about narcissism. I think Dan was at least a narcissist and Betty was at least BPD. You can NEVER get a narcissist to listen, whether you have a gun or not, and that will make you crazy. Life after narcissism can be very fulfilling. It's sad Betty was unable to move on after the end of her marriage.
Betty was diagnosed with a narcissistic histrionic personality disorder. Dan was never diagnosed.
He miscalculated his being the " golden goose" in protecting her. She flipped.
Dan was only popular being alive and able to take BRIBES phoney fake rich folks.....
I think they were both narcissists and co-abusers.
Linda would have been cheating with young men if Betty had just waited......
It should be noted that $16,000 a month seems like a lot of money but she was living in a house in his name with a very high mortgage and she had to pay the lease on two cars that were both in his name. She was obligated to do those things and it didn't actually leave her very much money left.
She should be hire a good divorce attorney from Los angles why she didn’t? Don’t know
I would have left. Got a job, apartment, started over alone. Told the kids I loved them, but let him pay for them and have custody. My first husband was a narcissist and he seems like it.
P R: Yes, and everything was in Dan’s name. He owned the house that Betty lived in & of the 16k that she got, she had to pay Dan rent. When she finally got the house in her name, she couldn’t afford it & had to put it on the market.
That 16k that everyone talks about, wouldn’t have been awarded long. Dan was taking sole custody of the boys, so she wouldn’t have gotten child support. I think that Dan & Linda were calculating enough so that Betty wouldn’t have gotten much at all.
I wonder why the two of them had to be so mean to Betty. Who exactly were the mentally ill ones?
@@hollyray3152 You would leave your children with someone you thought was a narcissist?
Ah she could have gotten a different car that was in her name. Smh. She didn't have to be responsible for vehicles in someone else's name. You people are something else.
Stop investing in men. That’s a job for their parents 🤦🏾♀️🍷
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Preach!!
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That's the one!! I agree
Agreed, but I would add that it is best to invest in yourself.
Betty was a little unstable and reactive, but Dan pushed her to such a point that it’s like, what did he expect? How did he think this was going to end? Did he think he could just hurt, manipulate, abuse, gaslight, use her kids, and keep her kids away from her as punishment, and nothing would happen??? It doesn’t work like that, he took everything from her. She had nothing to lose.
Yes she did: her freedom. She should have realized after the affair that he wasn't worth it. Why in the hell would any woman want a man who cheats on her? She should have cut her losses, accepted it and moved on. At least then she would have had some chance at happiness.
He made her crazy! Narcissistic man and used psychological maneuvers!
Betty is manipulative and condescending. She diminished Linda and saw her as less than. The divorce took so long because she kept asking for more money. She abandoned her kids and got mad that he kept them and didn’t run back to her. If she agreed to the divorce from the beginning, he wouldn’t have put so many stipulations on it. She victimized him and her own kids. She’s a monster.
@@alexrose8299 linda was less than. She willingly stuck her nose in another person's marriage and apparently it wasn't the first time. If she had any morals and sense she could have told Dan to leave Betty first, divorce and then maybe a relationship could proceed.
@@dclaet1135 Betty was already in it too deep. It's kinda like a reverse addiction, she's totally just following her impulse and no longer thinking. She wouldn't realise it until something jerks her out of it.
I feel sorry that her children didn't see the bad mental shape she was in. I somehow don't feel that her children were close to her, even though she was the one who raised them single handedly.
Linda and Dan wanted to take away everything that Betty had earned through her devotion to her marriage and her children. Nothing is more dangerous than someone with nothing left to lose.
That is how I feel about Liz Cheney and Donald Trump.
she had plenty to lose - like her children who she put on the back burner so she could nurse on her obsession.
That’s why she feels no remorse-The personality disorders the Dr. described in court is quite normal in light of the fact that I’d wonder what others would act like in her situation….
@@hallenebrooks5630 Nothing happened to Betty that doesn't happen to millions of other women every day. The difference is that the rest of us don't get left with houses, cars, and $16,000 a month. Betty had already had a personality disorder - that's why she was so hard to live with and that's why she has no remorse. People are allowed to fall out of love and want a divorce - but not if it's Betty Broderick. And she expects sympathy because she worked for a few years after she got married; also something that the rest of us do for our entire adulthood.
@@LydiaTheDog-op9wy Exactly. It should tell us all something that NONE of Betty's friends or even children testified on her behalf. Also, we only have one side of the story. Dan is not here to tell his side.
Betty Broderick's parents were very unloving and uncaring toward her growing up. She was denied love and acceptance from them. I have read her case history in depth. I am not excusing what she did at all. I am just very aware of the horrific psychological damage parents and early caregivers can cause to children by not providing love, compassion, empathy and nurturing.
And then Dan used love conditionally with her until he totally abandoned her emotionally and physically. WOW! Talk about packing a powder keg and handing her the match.
I just wish she could've gotten help. 💔
Shari Berry mine were WAY worse! But I wouldn’t even THINK about killing another Human Being!! This is why we need Jesus in our Hearts! I’m far from being a Religious Fanatic, but I think that’s where the Empathy comes from! No excuses for the Evil!
...and then, unfortunately, she went ahead and married a man JUST like her parents.
@@pats8219 great way to put that. She had issues no doubt but he definitely was putting fuel on that fire as well.
Your analysis is thoughtful and fair. Everyone always seems to talk about what a monster Betty was without recognizing that Dan’s behavior was cruel. I agree that Dan was a grandiose narcissist. Excellent video as always!
I respectfully disagree. EVERYONE talks about what a piece of work Dan was.
Doesn't matter what a horrible person he was. He did not want to be married to her anymore and provided for her financially at $16,000 per month. It's just time to move on with your life. But she chose to murder two people.
Zenodotus Of Athens No, he used her, told her her sacrifices and effort as a mother and wife were worthless. Cheated on her and lied about it for 2 years, making her question her own sanity. Ensured his finances were in order so she would accumulate HIS debt and finally, stole her children. His divorce was premeditated too, he organised it so Betty would be left suffering. I don’t blame her, I really don’t. I also disagree with this analysis, I don’t think she wanted Dan to herself, I believe she needed the appreciation and respect she deserved and that she was raised to be a wife and mother, when her marriage ended it was a sign of her failures. She lost it because she did everything right and assumed that was enough. Such a common story among women.
@@whatamievendoinghere5804 Everybody has an opinion and is an expert about their relationship. The narrative that you are swallowing was carefully orchestrated by her defense attorneys. It is designed to show Dan as a monster and paint her in the best possible light.
What I "know" is also a narrative orchestrated by the prosecution designed to show the wife in the worst possible light. Neither you nor I know actually what this relationship was about.
At the end of the day murder is murder. End conversation. Once you say "I don't blame her" for murder you cross the line and become just a benighted savage and give in to the lower levels of human nature.
Zenodotus Of Athens -agree; I don’t get the defense of her actions here..
At 1:59, you say “While Betty stayed home and watched the children, Dan earned a medical degree and a law degree.”
She worked and supported the family WHILE taking care of the kids and Dan, so Dan could do these degrees.
Doesn’t justify murder, but she supported him!
She probably knew he'd be very rich if she supported him doing those degrees. Her Golden egg so to speak.
KC : EXACTLY she was always there for him" lots of money, he wants a newer model, younger woman, that pushed her over the edge!
He & his new wife deserved what they get. However, I wish Betty has someone to talk her down so she wouldnt commit what she did. I feel sad for her as a woman.
Absolutely Dan could not have gotten those degrees without Betty. Betty look at them as a team! He $hit on all the hard work she put in, raising 4 kids, working many jobs, baby sitting, Tupperware...What she did was wrong! No excuse for murder! But he played a part in his murder
@@nolagirl2458 But she also benefited from it, as I did when my ex hubby studied for his law degree when our two kids were young. I did make sure I got a decent settlement. We have both moved on. Like most couples who sadly break up. Obviously there was some resentment, but we have both moved on. x
Have you analyzed Dan Brodrick’s personality. I’ll start with mega narcissist.
He's the super narcissist not Betty! She was trying to hang on by a thread & Dan AND Linda wouldn't stop!! Beware of messing with the unstable
I believe they both were...he was wrong for his part.. & she was delusional & wouldn't let go.. You can't make someone love u. She knew he didn't, she wanted to hang onto lifestyle..
& He did say Dan was narcissistic..
Super mega ultra narcissist. I don’t violence but Jesus take control seriously…. helped you to build a fortune and then upgrading with a younger and newer version. I’ll pray right now because I’m not thinking right.
@@starblossom1370 so true a very hard position to be in.
I don't condone murder, but I'm having a hard time feeling sorry for Dan. I feel bad for the kids, but that's about it.
He take every thing from her. She hurt. Why young girl. Break marriede men marrage he do not like his kids men like to lies when there sleeping with a woman .h
I feel sorry for the kids. Dan messed up and Betty was messed up.
@@nandamadramootoo8269 Betty dropped the kids off to him. She gave him the kids. Would it have been better if he left her for a woman closer to his own age?
@@steppy3736 no. It would have been better if he didny cheat and if he would rather be with another women, guess what..its called divorce
@@aprilsilvers381 I agree he shouldn't have cheated.
Actually she did work while Dan was going to school by babysitting, selling Avon and Tupperware door to door and teaching school plus taking care of the kids.
Sounds like that should have been a red flag that he was no good
Melissa Ockey I agree. Why would any real man want his wife/mother of his kids working a bunch of odd jobs just to put him through school? If anything, shouldn’t he had taken on a job himself?
Those jobs didn’t bring in enough money to support the family and pay his tuition, 🤣😂🤣
So? Marriage isnt slavery where you cant leave the marriage when you choose. She's a violent murderer who was an abuser for years and years before her final act.
@MS. Parker It's not Betty's choice what another person does - marriage isnt slavery. She got divorced. Her husband didnt love her. That's no one's fault but her own and she showed herself to be a sick, violent beast by killing two innocent people, and destroying her children's lives.
Living on $16,000 a month back in 1989? She could've had a hot pool dude and a yummy lawn maintenance hottie and then some! Seriously no relationship is worth losing your identity over. I've done it.
Ps Dr. Grande , your the bomb and your sense of humor is everything
She actually had a boyfriend at the time while she was harassing them
@@poke8735 Wow she was really wasting time she should've had focus on her best life and try to get her kids back.
She even had her own boyfriend
Obviously it was not just about money. He estranged kids from her too.
@@poke8735 No! He harrased her.
She worked to pay for her husband’s education and he used it against her. He taunted her legally and constantly.
She just lost it - unfortunately she couldn’t find a lawyer to protect her rights from husband’s petty charges.
I wonder why
@@haintedhouse2990 she was trying to get his attention which would never happen since his head was so far up his and his "girlfriends a**"
@@mariabustillos9220 what a dumbfuck way to get his attention. one of her kids could have been on the other side of the door when she decided to make her entrance.
He could have squared with her financially as the mother of his children but he was professionally brutal to her.
Very accurate description
What do you mean by “squared with her?”
Agree!
fuhk given her something to walk away with instead of stripping her of her dignity
She was getting like $16,000.00 a month! She bought a fur coat just before her trial. Yeah.
Thank God I found a wonderful therapist when I found out my ex was cheating on me....gaslighting me....I still remember the pain and ANGER.... I am thankful that I didn’t pull a “Betty Broderick “ but there were days that I was probably close. No one deserves to die...life CAN go on...it’s hard but the sun will shine 🌞
Well said
There is the difference. You got help and overcame it. Betty let it take her down.
I’m amazed at how many stories I’m reading in the comments about women going through the same exact experience (sans the killing). This happened to me as well; I was about to turn 29 (he was 40) and found out he was cheating with a 20 year old that I knew. It hurt because of my daughters; they were so little still. Nevertheless I felt liberated (there was a lot of psychological abuse) and within a year I realized everything was a blessing in disguise.
@@80dedi it helped that you didn't have a borderline personality disorder like Betty did. Betty had her own slew of issues. I'm glad you're doing well and you probably are a lot better off. Something wrong with 40 year old man messing with a 20 year old. I think age is more than a number
Gaslighting he did. Oh! Burn it did! "Crazy", "you need help", "don't call her", "don't speak her name from your filthy mouth", "you have trust issues"... Wow. Years wasted on a socially "stable" man who constantly called me unstable.
Thank god he met a beautiful married data scientist.
Dan is a sociopathic narcissist and Betty grew up being raised by emotionally unavailable catholic strict parents that made her codependent. That was why she could live with a narc for so long and lost her entire identity. Betty has borderline but not NPD ffs.
People can’t see Dan a narc Becoz they are lucky they have never been with one.
Your last sentence is everything
The socipath ends up murdered...REALLY????
I feel for Betty. She was used lied to dumped and then paid off on Dan's terms. She was humiliated, broken and angry and had lost her identity and it all became too much for her. Dan was mean to her and from what I have read Linda supported his actions. It was a ticking time bomb and when you look at what Betty went through, the death of her baby,suicide attempts, being lied to by her husband over the affair and then being accused of being crazy, being taunted by the new woman in Dan's life and watching Linda just step into her life she was broken emotionally and full of rage. It's a terrible tragedy for everyone all because Dan gave up on the marriage and Betty had given up her life for him.
I remember when this happened. He tormented her relentlessly. I don't condone murder, but by the same token, he should have been stopped. She was treated poorly by the system because he was a part of the system. In some sense, I believe he got his just reward.
In the book Hell Hath No Fury, here is a quote on what the Broderick brothers thought of women.
“When I was brought into the Broderick family,” Betty testified, “Larry Broderick said to me, ‘Now you’re a yuck!’ And I said, ‘What’s a yuck?’ He said, ‘It’s too low to kick and too wet to step on.’ That’s what they called their sisters, the yucks.”
When raised in a Catholic house & Catholic school, girls tend to be submissive to begin with.
You only heard one side of the story! Dan didn’t get the chance to tell his side because he was murdered. Linda didn’t deserve to die
@J Moore I watched the trial. Betty was a Narcissistic asshole and you are saying it was okay to commit double premeditated murder? Do you think anytime a woman gets dumped she should go out and buy a 357 Magnum, take shooting lessons, steal keys from her daughter to make copies, sneak into the bedroom and pump 6 rounds into two sleeping people, then yank the phone out of the wall if he is still gurgling? She should have gotten the chair.
J Moore no wonder your husband left you for another guy!
J Moore and, loony toons
Their poor kids.
They're the only people in this mix I've ever felt bad for.
I hope the cluster B traits of their parents aren't genetic.
I agree. They are the real victims in this mess.
XM same!
@@Ocelot1962 the daughter on Oprah is aloof ,1992 it on CZcams
She WAS ENTITLED to be treated with DIGNITY. Her reaction to the level of coldness, indignation, and gaslighting she was treated with is normal. He manipulated everything in her world and flipped the script on her.
There was no "gaslighting". You can stop with the childish liberal buzzword.
She could have behaved with dignity moved on with her life instead of marinating in anger
there wasn't much dignity from Betty calling Dan an asshole and a faggot in front of their friends way back before Linda showed up. Betty loved to dish the crap out but always played the victim when the backlash came around.
As soon as I watched a documentary on the case I suspected she was BPD then looked it up and was surprised she was diagnosed as narcissistic - histrionic !!
From a BPD to a BPD we recognize each other 😆
Also ladies...build your own life and identity! Take that job, go to school, travel, know who you are and what you are good at without depending on a man to do that for you.
China is focused on families whilst the west can’t stop devaluing families. China will be selling our organs at this rate.
Sure! And, who is going to watch the children? Do you think she could left her 4 children with a nanny? Why should she? She was a devoted mother and couldn’t imagine, that he would play such a foul game with her!
Unless you are a woman, you’re probably not qualified to give that advice. Even though I agree that this advice is good, it is not nearly as simple as you make it out to be.
I agree that women should pursue an independent source of income beyond their spouses, they should pursue their dreams, however from experience men just aren’t willing, nor for the most part capable, of being supportive to their wife’s dreams of success!!!
@@Sakisunification She should have done it before having children obviously... Saying no to having children, having children that early or not having that many children. If she had her own identity, life and career, if would have been easier for her to avoid abusive men like him. And children have 2 parents. Why should the mother give up her life but the father not? The father can sacrifice his own education and career and stay home with them too. It's hypocritical of men that they would never do this but expect it from women.
I'm on Betty's side. If Dan hadn't been an abusive asshole and actually respected his marriage vows, or at least had the decency to divorce Betty *prior* to dating Linda, maybe none of this would've happened/ I have no sympathy for cheaters.
Yes ma'am
Mary I agree. She was thrown away like garbage
Yup..he got himself a back up..then only dare to break from Betty. Would he damage his marriage if he didnt have back up?
Your crazy like she is, it's not worth losing your freedom, killing them
@Kim Essex Then something is wrong with u, pain in life u go thru, u also learn to live with it and get thru it. That's life, taking a life bcuz u don't want no one else to have them, ok u go to prison for life,🤔 so what did u complish 😏, u think God want u to kill someone bcuz that other person want move on with their life with someone else 🤔, if it's not self defense, u got a mental problem 🤔, I was a cheater and got cheated on, yeah the person I cheated on wanted to kill me, but I didn't want to kill him, I love my freedom, so it just not worth it
Dan was a narcissist. Got great pleasure in controlling and discarding his last pray when she was no longer needed. He was definitely on the high end of the spectrum. He manipulated and baited Betty. Unfortunately for Betty her self esteem was not high enough to rise above his games.
It seems that way. However, Betty was the one diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
@@peacehappyb237 I can see how...the truth is we are all on the scale. Just some are higher than other's. I do believe if the husband was tested he would have passed with flying colors. Her reactions were more exaggerated than most so you can tell she is on the narc scale....but I bet not as high as her husband.
why is it so hard to accept that Betty was batshit crazy? Why does he have to be blamed? He should’ve pressed charges and send her ass to jail for continuing to assault and stalk him and his family. A truly battered person would’ve walked away except she used the courts to make the divorce longer and continue to make demands. Not every woman is a victim. What if she drove him to be abusive and crazy
Most of us have been rejected and treated badly but we grow learn move on its not ok to murder
You followed this story, and yet you believe that he was the one who manipulated and baited her????
Imagine shooting a man who is sending you 16 THOUSAND dollars a month in alimony. That's how you know Betty was really, really nuts. If it had been me, the hubby and I would have had the world's most amicable divorce. I'd be sending the new wife pots of homemade soup, to keep the family breadwinner healthy! Sixteen thousand dollars a month! And she shot the goose that laid the golden egg. Incredible.
Yes!! I'd be sending that man multivitamins and fruit baskets.
I believe the alimony was only until one or the other of them remarried (as opposed to the norm of the recipient remarrying.) Since he had plans to marry Linda, she would have likely only received a couple of payments, if any at all. And in the area of CA they lived in, 16k is next to nothing honestly.
@@bg6364 I read a book by Ann Rule about the Broderick case. Betty really was and still is, nuts. She simply would not accept the divorce. She seemed to think that she owned her husband. Betty also dragged all four of her kids into the fray, badgering them about how they should hate their Dad. Her emotional roller coaster rides eventually drove three of her kids to go live with their Dad, not because they didn't love their Mom - they just couldn't take the drama anymore. Betty stalked and hounded her ex and his new wife relentlessly. Try listening to just some of the recordings of her venomous messages to her ex. They're on CZcams somewhere. The truth is, Betty Broderick gave her ex-husband a hundred reasons to not cooperate financially or co-parent with her. If she'd been reasonable she could have had an amicable settlement. Instead, she eventually killed two people after stalking them for years. I have no sympathy for her or any other control freak who thinks they own other human beings. One last thing. If you think 16 thousand dollars a month is "next to nothing, really," you are not living in reality. Lucky you.
You don't understand the situation Mightymissk. Additionally, Betty was used to a certain lifestyle, so 16,000/month was less than what she was accustomed to. If you are broke, or are middle class, yes, $16,000/mth is a lot. Seriously though- what a dim witted comment.
Dan Broderick played a major part in his own death.
So did his homewrecker.
You don’t get to just murder people because you hate them and what they did.
@Kim Essex What on earth makes you think that didn’t happen? I moved on and am better for it. I’m just saying she had her own part in this drama. So many other things she could have done! She could have made better decisions at the start of their marriage, she could have protected herself along the way, she could have realized no one owns anyone else. She could have not murdered two people no matter how badly behaved they were. But still, she takes no responsibility for any of her choices all these years later. She remains a victim firmly stuck in victim hood. I made a choice to look at MY part in how my life turned out since that’s all I really control and in doing that I freed myself from wallowing in what he did, how horrible he was, what my life should have been. I created the drama every bit as much as he did and knowing that I’m glad to be free. So many years later, children grown, the delight of grandchildren, life is good and sweet. Betty could have had the same.
@@kristinjayne6720
Do you hear yourself? Hatred is the reason, you don't murders someone because you like them
@@lorraineforte9175 And? Your hatred of someone doesn’t justify murdering them. What are you saying?
Her husband broke her emotionally, financially and joked about her in front of their own kids. Made her look like crazy when all he had to do was come clean and acknowledge her sacrifices and expectations and go for a sensible solution that was best for the kids as well. He just did not want to share wealth and kids with her anymore. All this time she is thinking their marriage still has hope. It's so traumatic to just learn abut this story I can't even imagine how people maintain their mental stability while actually going through it. My heart goes out to her. She deserved a better life and a fair treatment from her husband when he was alive. So, so unfair and brutal.
The man was anarc can't expect less
Betty was always a foul-mouthed handful with classic sociopath behaviors - never cops to doing anything wrong and if she was caught, it's always somebody else's fault and whoever was the last victim deserved it. Way before Linda, friends of the Brodericks became increasingly embarrassed at Betty's public insults and profanities aimed at Dan. Later the 2 older daughters witnessed the same. words are powerful and Betty had a black belt in cursing, so if you're gonna dish the crap out you better be ready to take it which obviously was Betty's downfall, reacting like a psychotic toddler when the shit got dished back. maybe you should read Bella Stumbo's "Until the Twelfth of Never" an unbiased well researched account of this trainwreck of a marriage with Dan, Linda AND Betty all coming off as 3 highly flawed individuals. after reading the book the only people I felt bad for were her kids and their medical bills from what I'm guessing is a lifetime of therapy thanks to the over-the-top horror show Betty put on for them.
@@haintedhouse2990 Finally, a woman that can see through her. She is nuts!!!! She is a psycho!! Thank-you!!
Dan is right up there with a child molester. She should have disabled him so he could see how fast Linda headed for the door.
There was even a lawyer hired by Betty who warned the opposing parties that this is a case where you don't want to go down this road by trying to take as much as you can from her.
A relative knew Betty in prison in So Cal. This relative adored Betty. She said that she was a wonderful mother to her children who visited regularly and was a mother figure to her fellow prisoners. I don't buy it. I agree about BPD. True that her husband was a narcissistic abuser. She got burned big time and did not have the mental health to walk away.
My daughter met Betty in prison & said she was a decent person who snapped! She was highly regarded by other inmates & will not be released because she felt it was her or them!!
That is not what we hear from the children. This relative is lying. Surprised ? Betty may be bi-polar but she is still a murderess who destroyed her children's youth. She would never qualify to be described as a good mother ! No good mother acts the way she did before killing two people in their bed. She was an unbearable mother. Her poor little son crying asking her not to call his dad bad words....I remember hearing that poor kid, on the news, begging Betty to leave them alone. She made her kids lives, a Hell !
Once again, I think you nailed it, Dr.Grande! I felt so sorry for those children! For someone with a degree in elementary education, she certainly acted clueless as far as the effect her behavior was having on them.
They both were selfish narcissistic could have tried to co parent in a civilized way
Wow ...she supported him when he obtained 2degrees and gave him 5 children and he just tossed her aside and tried to keep marital
Funds from her and took the children ....she was a victim and mentally and emotionally in too deep ....so succumbed to murdering
Them both ....and basically gave up her life also ....sad for all involved !!
His behavior was cruel and he craved power. He didn't actually "take" the children. Betty, during one of her tantrums dropped off the kids on his doorstep shouting that he had to take them. The children didn't wish to return to live with Betty because she was wildly inappropriate and clearly in need of psychiatric care. Dan may have provoked her, knowing that she would act out. He continued to do it until he was dead.
He “provided” her with a house & car - both were still in his name and she had to make the mortgage, loan & tax payments out of her $16,000 a month - which it wouldn’t cover. Plus Dan refused to pay her lawyer’s retainer fee. She was left with nothing considered all they had built together. She raised their kids basically alone while coaching soccer teams and entertaining business friends all the time. I remember Betty from her appearance on Oprah! The original movie with Meredith Baxter Berney is much better than the Dear John series. Her sentence is too long.
Seems like they both had/have some type of cluster b personality disorder.
I never condone murder but this case was hard. He was unspeakably cruel
@@alisonbarksdale1625 Why is Betty's sentence too LONG? Every TIME she comes up before the parole board they ALWAYS say the same thing: SHE SHOWS NO REMORSE FOR KILLING DAN AND LINDA and STILL says she's the only victim here! I think her next parole hearing is in 2023. Betty will NEVER get out as long as she continues to show no remorse. I believe her daughter(?) has requested for the release of her mother Betty because she's 80 now, I believe, and in declining health! Poor Betty: She took two people's lives but also took her OWN life away as well!
Dan was a narcissist. He disinherited his teenage daughter, probably because she didn't condone the new gf. What a creep.
My ex narc said the same thing when our daughter had the nerve to have an opinion on his affair. He actually said I wouldn't judge her if she had an affair. I was shocked that he actually said and believed that that was an okay thing to say. Then of course he said he would change his will.
And this excuses what Betty Broderick did? Double murder? This woman was increasingly violent, she was obsessed, she was hateful, she was a narcissist, she was self-centered, manipulative, she even scared her own kids. But you're excusing her for what she did? You're pathetic.
@@lydialilli4351 I never said I condoned it. Please don't put words in that are not there.
She was on drugs . Had nothing to do with the gf .
@@jan7812 That’s awful . Dan didn’t do that though ;) Your ex must be a real gem 👍
Look at Dan! He was the extreme narcassist. He even thought it was okay when his mistressed join in in taunting his already distraught wife then continued when Betty became the ex wife. Lying to her time after time about the affair. Calling her awful names when he was about to kick her to the curb like yesterdays trash. She was wonderful when she was putting her life on hold so that she could support his schooling. As a true narcassist he probably did persue her. She had all the qualities he was looking for. Beautiful, a sweet person that would do anything for any body but expecially she would do them for him. It sounds like she had no family support. A perfect person for a nacassist to be able to isolate and control. She was the one that had to raise the kids, take them to all their functions, she felt the need to be perfect. He was not there to support her but to continue to ask for more children when he knew she had a lot of issues with pregancy and was home alone when she was in the process of losing her child. Look how many miscarriages she had. Her hormones were all over the place. Then comes the slap in the face of having this other woman show up and she has no power to stop it. What kind of a woman knows a man is married and has children but continues to persue him anyway. Then starts rubbing it in her face. Always referring to her as Betts as he stabs her in the back. Taking control over the money and the children. Okay for him to buy a sports car but not okay for her to buy a fur coat. Such a double standard her. The BS of him taking money off for any infrigement. Did he really listen to every conversation to be able to know how much to deduct. Anyone who does that is crazy in my opinion. How many times did he laugh a crazy laugh while reading or listening to all that. He did have the upper hand legally and he knew he was screwing her over in court. I have heard many a woman abused by their cop husband and have no were to turn as well because of the protection these men have from the brotherhood. I think he was sure he could drive her to kill herself and that is what he continued to do. He was just as manipulative with the kids as she was. Disobeying visitiation orders when it was convient for him. I think he thought he could drive her mad and he would win the battle of proving her unfit and crazy. It is most narcassit highest priorty to drive their partners crazy. Dan never believed her to be a danger to him because he always felt in control of her and the game he was playing with her and that is why the fool never had a security system put in our had his own weapon. He thought he was just so good at this game he was playing that he was just waiting for the call saying she had taken her life. When someone is doing mind games and gas lighting a person for years and is so calloused as to not think that she deserved more for all the sacfiices she made to help him get the prominense but only wanted to give her a fraction of the money he was earning. If he was making 137,000 a month, why are you not asking why he could not have paid fair and gave her closer to the half she was intitled too instead of the little fraction he was wanting to give her. He is just as much to blame for his own death and that of his new wife. There are laws now that make people have to split everything 50/50. Betty was intitled to so much more than what was being offered. She does not deserve to continue to stay in jail when Dan or his wife showed her no remorse it what he was doing to her. I was in a 32 year relationship with a man not of his prominense but still sacfices were made and after I had raised our children and worked full time I was kicked to the curb. Years of gas lighting. I was going through a hellish menopause. I had been helping care for my mother who had dementia for the last 18 years and he was jelous of the time I was taking to care for her. He decided to act his worst. Telling me I was worthless and no one would ever want me, I go no support from my family because he painted sucha wonderful picture of himself to the outside world. This was to be our time. All the sacfices made in caring for children and getting them through school. He decided he was the only one who had sacfirced it all and wanted to pull money out of retirement to buy himself a new truck and trailer and told me there was nothing I would be able to do about it. I became suicidal and crashed. My mental health spent. I had to live in our guest bedroom for a year while everything played out in the court and I got half of the money. He got a new girlfriend right away and was trying to shove her down the kids throats. They were so upset. He was trying to control access to the last items I needed to get from the house and in has rage slammed me to the ground and then called the police and asked to have me removed as he kept our house. I asked the police to give me the last items and I would leave and he would never hear from me again. I decided to move to another state because me anger to what he chose to destroy was so great I didn't trust myself to harm him. Just for him to feel what it would be like if I were the one in control. I thankfully found so much support for having survieved domestic abuse with counselors and domestic abuse groups. It has taken years to move on but that is finally happening. It has been so hard to let go of the easy street that was about to happen All the work and sacifices I made were going to be paying off. We had plans to retire early. He is still getting to do that. He didn't want to pay spousal support so he went and askef or and got a 12% raise after our divorce was final. I too had just helped get him through school and his income was going to go up substatnally. I on the other hand lost pay. I went from make $25 per hour to $20 in the other state I moved to . Then to $18 when I moved yet again because the wearther in the state I moved to was so bad. I also will get way less in Social Security because even though we both agreed I would be a stay at home mom it shows up on my work history of having not worked for those years. It has been so hard to let go of the unfairness of it all. If I go down that rabbit hole it brings on depression so I have learned to let it go as best I can. What saddens me is my daughter is going to be getting married and I will have to go be around him again. I at least know how to set boundaries. It still will be a very hard day. I really believed we would be the couple that would make it. That we would be together for all of these great milestones. It is a process. Learning to pick up the pieces and to let go of what could have been to accept what is and to build a new life that is mine. I also had my best friend and my sister turn on me. My sister moved in with him after I left. It was romanitic I don't thing but while I was stuggling to pay my $1400 a month rent she was living in my house for $400 a month. My fiend was watching from across the street and texting him the things I was bringing out of the house. I read this story and if I would have had the unfairness that was Betty's cards I may have snapped too. The human mind can only take so much! But make no mistake Dan and Linda were not innocent. Unfortunately, what he did to her is not seen as criminal when it surely was. If they lived now Betty would have gotten half of everything. I think she has paid enough for her crime.
If Betty would've killed Dan out in public, say in a parking garbage and not touched his new wife, I believe she would be out by now. After all it is California where she committed the crimes. The major strikes against her is she never showed any remorse for what she did, broke into his house, and murdered both of them while asleep in bed. As tough as it was for her, the law looks at is as two counts of murder.
Sorry to read you went through so much hardship.
I am so so sorry for what you went through as that had to be so difficult to heal from.🥺
I’ve been there myself so I completely understand. I just wanted to let you know that when your ex files for Social Security you can then file under his SS since you were married to him more than 25 years. So you won’t lose those years that you weren’t working and you’re entitled to SS benefits based on his higher pay grade. You don’t have to contact him or even let him know that you’re doing it either. This is completely legal and all you have to do is contact the SS office and they will tell you that you can absolutely do that. Your story broke my heart so I wanted to make sure you knew that you can absolutely do that when you file for those benefits. I think the only issue is that he has to file for his SS first but the SS office can provide you with that information without having to contact him.😉👍🏻
Praying you’re doing better and that you now have some peace in your life.🙏🏻😊
when's the book coming out? blah blah blah.
Wow! You have analyzed this in a thorough way I’ve never read or heard before. Seems you really nailed it.
"Forgetting that being shot at detracts the qualities of listening skills" Lol. Love it
After hearing that line, my neighbors are probably questioning me. (facepalm)
Yessss!
Also "ever so subtly expressing some underlying anger" 😆
Billy Jean lmao at that too
🤣🤣
I lived through this time period and it wasn’t uncommon to literally discard your wife after she supported the husband financially for many years. I’m sorry he abused her and was successful at crazy making behavior. He called on his friends and the legal community to freeze her out at every turn. He is the narcissistic one and unfortunately he and his new wife paid the price for their actions.
I agree.
I disagree with Dr Grande’s version of this particular part: “As Betty stayed home and watched the children, Dan Broderick earned a Medical degree and a law degree.”
Nope! She worked the entire time supporting the family, Doc!
@Katie P. She should have hired Gloria Allred and took all of his money. She would not be a murderer and she would be free to live her life.
@@mellowdisco is that what the Doctor said? She "stayed home and watched the children"? Some nerve. Slipped right off his tongue I bet. I'll have to listen fir it ("watched" the kids...)
By committing murder, she sunk to his level. Dan was emotionally abusive and he gaslit her, but by losing control she robbed herself of her freedom, although I think she should have been charged with manslaughter. If this case were tried today, with all the awareness we have now about abuse & mental health I really think she would have been charged with manslaughter.
I’ve seen this a million times. Men using women as wombs to give birth to kids and have them support you through school…then they leave you for a younger woman. I totally believe Betty was a victim. I’d consider it a crime of passion. She should have gotten 20 years. This should serve as a warning in a sense to both women and men who grossly abuse their spouses.
Agrre with you
I had a same experience just like Betty.
I was 24years old when I got married a man who had nothing.
I did stand by him and his carrier more then 10years and raised children by myself. He didn’t change a one diaper nor gave a bath for children. When he starts making 6 figure income, he had a fair with his female co-worker and cheating on me for 2years. I walked away from him b/c he doesn’t deserve me. Children and i were suffering for a long time.
I don’t believe in marriage anymore.
I am sorry this happened to you. I hope you find love and marriage does work for some people.
haha! His loss not mine . I got my life back. He doesn’t deserve me.
haha! His loss not mine . I got my life back. He doesn’t deserve me.
haha! His loss not mine . I got my life back. He doesn’t deserve me.
haha! His loss not mine . I got my life back. He doesn’t deserve me.
He provoked an unstable woman. Not a good idea. What did he expect, "nevermind dear I'll make your dinner now." response? Nuts.
I think Betty was killing both Dan & her Father in that bedroom
He was a nightmare
K Butler Well he was clearly gaslighting her when she confronted him about the affair and he lied to her face and denied the, by then, year long affair. That was a typically cowardly (and manipulative) move by a probable narcissist.
He expected her to live her own life and not to kill him. Why do women her age look at marriage as a slave situation? If a woman is unstable then the right thing to do is to leave her. Same for a woman if a man is unstable.
@@pretzel_cat cowardly and manipulative move by a narcissist is stealing a key from your daughter, killing 2 people and not caring about the effects on your children and probably expecting them to support your actions, and trying to justify it.
Provoke is a good word here. He was clearly an intelligent man, what did he think was going to happen?
Gaslight someone for 2 years
Take the kids
Sell the home
Drop them like trash
And you will be lucky if all they do is play on your phone. Get real, that was selfish and BOLD what he did and allowed the mistress to do
Betty's acts are frightening. But I think she was the victim. The fact that the guy went out of his way to make everything impossible for her, including using his contacts to prevent her from getting decent legal aid. It is enough to drive anyone mad and suicidal.
They were hoping she'd commit suicide.....surprise!
@@candicescott7176 It "backfired".
@@candicescott7176 which is just as bad as what she did imo. Trying to get her to kill herself should be considered attempted murder, she just defended herself.
@@melanistar 100% agree with you there. I think both sides wanted to see each other dead. but in different ways. linda and dan wanted her dead so she wouldn’t try to interfere, and betty wanted dan and linda dead because of the constant pain they had put her through. just a tragic story, but i do honestly believe that betty is the victim here. you can’t push and push and push and expect someone not to break. especially when you are being gaslighted and reduced.
Dan gaslighted Betty for years ... he was spiteful, vindictive, and used his power to destroy Betty emotionally and mentally. He was above the law and took everything and anything away from Betty. This is such a sad situation for those poor children who had to grow up with a parent in prison and no father. I think Dan drove Betty to the brink of insanity and I really don’t think til this day she is remorseful about what she did. I think If Betty couldn’t have Dan then no one could. You bring up a very valid point about the personality disorder because often times we see personality disorders are created over time but of course biology plays a vital role too. However, I do wonder if Betty was always this way as well to truly understand her or was she a victim of narcissistic abuse. So many questions.
A very fascinating review of the movie I had watched a few years ago. ,As always good job making a complicated story better understood,. thanks
Dan and Linda were both despicable . They both tormented Betty. It seemed they wanted to destroy her. Their arrogance probably blinded them to the real risk that a tormented person could alternatively fatally retaliate.
they were awful, they really crossed a line when they sent her diet supplements in the mail.
Agreed. Also did anyone analyze Dan and Linda’s relationship. Doesn’t it seem strange to anyone. Having an affair with a married men you work with.. accepting a promotion you don’t deserve … keeping it a secret when you know he has 4 kids. Being what 26 or so having an affair abs you want to raise someone else’s 4 kids and have more of your own something just is off about it
Agree!
They in effect put a gun to their own heads by tormenting Betty, even sending her letters calling her fat, old, ugly; taking her children from her, and humiliating her at every turn. Dan was a narcissist and we can be sure he took the torment TO THE HILT.
@@moniquemonicat I so agree!
Betty was a friend of mine when they moved to Coral Reef. She's a sweetheart who would give you the shirt off her back.
@Teacups and Roses She doesnt come up for parole til she's in her 80's. She's really being punished to the max. She should be out by now. She wouldn't hurt a fly. It's really a sad situation; I knew Dan pretty well too and overheard many times how he complained to her that she was "crazy", unattractive, on and on. He was a smart manipulator, a very good malpractice atty and I'd almost say he got what he deserved. He put her thru emotional and mental HELL.
@Teacups and Roses I didnt see the Oprah interview but I'm surprised O was unsympathetic. I would've thought O would be able to relate to Betty since B is a friendly, warmhearted soul.
@@jeaniemccormick9797 i feel sooo sorry for betty. I really feel they need to let her out the poor thing!!!the tw fuckers she killed got what they deserved. Everything id fair in love and war.. this became war.
Could you tell more please about Betty since you are a friend of her. To me she looks nice, well mannered, caring, very smart and articulate,hard working, a devoted and caring mom, she is very pretty, very sweet, very attractive and beautiful woman. It's my first time to watch a court trial and I cried several times because I feel for Betty. In my anlysis she's really mentally and emotionally tortured by Dan Broderick and Linda. Betty has a very loving heart but her heart was shattered by these two people. God is merciful and I pray that God will forgive Betty for the crime that she's done. Betty deserves to be loved and to be happy. I hope she will be released from jail very soon. 🙏🙏🙏❤️
@@clairecanada2166 She is all the nice things you said plus she has a wonderful sense of fun, great sense of humor. She reached out to me when I was dating an atty of the same law firm Dan was in. She was the only wife who befriended me; the other wives tended to be snooty bitches. Betty and I had kids the same age and she always included my daughter in activities. I feel she's being punished unfairly at this point. I miss her.
I was in San Diego when all this took place, but I have to say you have given the most sensible, and helpful understanding of each of the individuals involved here.
Was married to a Dan type that ended up sleeping with an 18 year old instagram model. He was taking classes to be a yoga instructor that I paid for. He was shocked when I screwed him over so badly in court. In short, Dan drove Betty to insanity.
it was a short drive.
I don’t agree. I think living with Betty would have been a complete nightmare
You should have analyzed her husband, not her.
But he can't speak for himself Guess why
Charles Ndaganje lol, exactly my thought. Offer him a 20 ys old and he won‘t be stopped.
now reverse the genders and see if you still agree.
he did, he talks about narcissism, and it's clear. very interesting netflix series on the couple.
Wow. I got cheated on by my ex and he even stole money from me. So I know the pain of being betrayed. But murder is absolutely NOT something a healthy person does. This is a very childish point of view. If you are really a mature person you get a good lawyer and build up your life for yourself.
I feel so bad for Betty in the end. She should not have been put into prison but a mental hospital. She put her whole life up for him and he switched up on her. She had her whole life and he took it. Both alive and dead. Sad.
Mental hospital for sure
Good day Dr Grande😊you are great in your review of this case which I remember very much. I understand how Betty could lose it in this way, considering the games and torment he put her through. It’s truly sad.
Dr Grande, I find your observations very insightful. There were so many occasions when Betty was truly showing she was unraveling. If only someone would have tried to help her to get the professional help she needed. I include her husband in that scenario. His go to reaction was always a legal or punishing response instead of, wow what is happening to the Mother of my children? He was so absorbed with punishing her instead of helping her. Paid with his life & the life of his wife.
Her friends encouraged her to get therapy. She refused, saying Dan would subpoena the notes and use them against her in divorce court.
I don't think the marriage was over til he met what's her name. Younger, attractive woman shows interest. Marriage vows, children, everything gets thrown out the window like trash. Same old story. And what about the other woman? Such callous selfishness to begin an affair with a married man. She didn't care one bit about his children. I think she was just as guilty as Dan.
If women could only learn not to be each other's enemies; NEVER go after a married man. If women behaved themselves in these situations and thought of the other woman as being JUST LIKE THEM, sisters under the skin, men wouldn't be able to cheat. WOMEN be loyal to your sisters first; no man is ever worth the candle.
I am certain Linda ran her down to Dan every chance she got.
If you lose a man, chances are he was really never yours to begin with.
if you do some research you'll find the Brodericks marriage was toxic and over long before Linda.
@@haintedhouse3052 Still married though
All three adults in this tragedy weren’t bright . I’m sorry for the Brodericks’ children . I can’t imagine being the kids in all this idiocy
I love your channel and your very dry humour Dr G. This was another great video. Thank u ❤️
He omitted that Betty was the main provider for the family while Dan attended law school and that she was raised a devout Catholic and that he was as well. Which seems to play into expectations, state of mind, and acceptance.
This is one of my favorite cases because Dan and Betty were complex. I'm not on Dan's side. He was horrible and wanted to torture her and is so far from innocent. She really helped make him who he was and I think that possibly that's the value she had all along. He was a liar, cheat, gaslighter and really played with her mental and emotional health, intentionally. Of course Betty shouldn't have killed them. But I do remember a juror saying that he 'didn't wonder why she killed him, but what took her ao long' . Of course she's unstabe, no question there but he was evil.
I agree and Linda was no different. She was a mean bitch who instead of being happy and focus on the man she stole, she couldn't sit still on her ass, but had to flash it and rub it in Betty's face. Both were mean and petty as hell.
Yep. I've been in a relationship with someone that behaved like Dan...and it is a miracle he is alive and I am free. I really had to focus on my son's future to get past the rage. Dan was just a horrible human being. That was the mother of his children. Disgusting.
Awesome comment! Yes yes yes.
@@angelac3788 I could have written this, same experience, same reason to focus. we are survivors and moved on to happier lives.
@@angelac3788 Same.
She had poor emotional/impulse control. However, Dan was a freaking narcissist. Sucks
Agreed. It seems like the husband knew she was fragile and knew how to get under her skin and would deliberately do things to antagonize her. How do you provoke the mother of your children KNOWING she had 2 prior suicide attempts and your provocation could push her over the edge? She needed help, but never received it. 💔
The bible says "Opression can make the wise one act crazy" (Proverbs) He kept messing with her. She had enough.
@@TomikaKelly I read another comment that maybe they wanted her to die thru suicide but killed them instead.
@@Corazanaoro they should have peeped that when she ran her car through the front of their home. SMH
Yes...Narcissistic and gaslighting Betty.
I lived in San Diego during this separation, divorce and remarriage. I know this is just a summary. Let me tell you Dan and Linda mentally tortured Betty. I strongly believe she reacted this way because of the invested time in her marriage and family. She did some crazy things (such as with feces) but she was definitely pushed. She didn’t deserve this treatment by her gaslighting husband. He devalued her and discarded her like trash. LaJolla is a small community and I’m sure there was also a lot of shame. Yes, she snapped and killed them but I can understand. I’m not saying it’s right. I probably would have killed myself with what they put her through.
she didn't snap. she planned to kill them for 5 years, told her dwindling circle of friends she was gonna do it, took a refresher course in firearms training in case her aim had gotten rusty, bought a gun and bullets that would do the most damage, stole her daughters keys to 'break in' to Dan's house, investigators noted the bullets fired had the accuracy of a marksman, told her oldest daughter the morning of the murders "you know i had to do it, i couldn't let him win, one of us had to die" (apparently Betty was living in some bad western) no snapping, she simply closed the book on her 5 year plan. a stalker and a terrorist - glad she's locked up.
@@haintedhouse2990 Spot On!
Someone said "he tried to break her, but instead, she snapped..." I think that sums it up. How did the death of a child affect her? Did she ever get grief counseling? He was a total narcissist who used money to control & enslave her. He & his mistress didn't deserve what happened, but they got what they were asking for 😐
The book "The Twelfth of Never" goes into great detail of these two very complicated people.
I escaped my narcissist without violence on my part. Still, I tend to have more sympathy for Betty 's pain than Dan's need to move on without financial responsibility.
So Dan made himself the entire focus of Betty's life, then thought SHE was crazy when that's what she became.
The love bomb, devaluation and the discard.
I don’t like Dan,
What a snake 🐍
No RIP for this nasty human
@@hiiicandiies1932 yes, it's just as well him and his side piece are pushing up daisies now!
100%
How do you make yourself the entire focus of someone’s life? Specially someone who had 4 children to raise? I would understand if she had no children and nothing of her own. SHE enjoyed that title
I lived in SD when this happened and knew some of her friends who at first felt sympathetic toward her but her lack of remorse, constant harping on and on about Dan and Linda, her victimization, they backed off. The truth is, they were both awful and Linda was young but a home wrecker and had some nasty moments herself. The victims I feel for all the children.
It could be a case of a covert narcissist marrying an overt narcissist. My husband did this to me and tried to make me crazy.
She wasn't insane until he started playing games with her . An I feel as if his manipulation had alot to do with it . This could of been handled so very differently it's so sad . The kids are smart an beautiful .
always thought it was interesting that during the divorce, the murders, the trials - both Betty's cold-as-ice parents were MIA. the Brodericks marriage was in trouble from day one with Betty ending their arguments with threats of divorce. her penchant for high drama goes waay back.
Yes She was unhinged from day 1@@haintedhouse2990
for those of yall that are quick to demonize betty, i think u have to remember that her ex-husband not only cheated on her and left her for a woman half her age, but he still had control over her financially after the divorce and he took the children she gave birth to. she nurtured those children, gave up her entire life for not only her ex-husband, but the children as well. then to lose your husband to a much younger woman and have all your children taken away from you and be on their fathers side, that would be mental torture for anyone. at the very least, you’d think you have your own children on your side but she had no one.
She abandoned those children. She had a lover whom she still tried to manipulate. That lady is evil
According to the kids, she gave them to Dan thinking he'd be miserable with them. Then he kept them and made it work. After a time he did end up with legal cusidoy. I can't spell
I wasn't there so we can only speculate. Keep in mind though that reactive abuse is real.
she dropt the kids, she had a house, 16000 dollar a month and a boyfriend (poooor lady) ...listen to the phonecall when her son bagged her to stop...
She was doing all kinds of hurtful things to Dan in front of those kids and dragged them in her insane antics against him.
Repeatedly showing up unannounced in the home he was living in with those kids, letting herself in even though there was a restraining order preventing her from doing that, calling Dan and Linda all kinds of names constantly to them almost every time she saw them, leaving all kinds of vulgar messages on Dans answering machine, (all of which the kids heard) and showing up unannounced to bring back the kids from her visitation time leaving them on the front porch without checking to see if Dan was even home or telling Dan they were even there.
She had no respect for anyone. Not even herself.
Dan destroyed Betty a long time ago killed her years before she finally killed him. Sad she basically lived for her husband and those kids only to be betrayed. He forced her to get a facelift when she didn't even need one he was mentally abusing her and manipulating her and she finally snapped. Im glad hes dead! Ladies NEVER let yourself go for a man, choose YOU focus on YOU!!
I understand her anger at the husband and his girlfriend/wife because what they did destroyed her life and the world as she knew it. But regardless of how much you hate him, he's still the father of your children and you just don't shoot him and the new wife as an act of revenge. Her act of revenge not only robbed those kids of their father but their mother as well.
I see a lot of comments talking about Dan & Linda drove her to it which I agree but I think what really caused her to snap was the fact that Dan was able to graduate law school & become a prestigious lawyer BECAUSE OF HER!!! She made him! That was just as much her life as it was his. She worked sometimes 3 jobs to put him thru school so they could enjoy their wealthy retirement, what did Linda do to earn everything Betty had worked for. That’s what did her in, in my opinion of course ☺️
Too bad not enough is known about the psychological impact of narcissistic abuse! In and of itself, it can make a victim feel hopeless and act disoriented and insane! I don't think Betty wanted her narc ex-husband back. He had way too much leverage over her and had already discarded her like a paper cup. She just wanted to get even! Narcs always underestimate their victims!
Betty was diagnosed by a psychiatrist as a narcissist so
Omg this is my ex marriage...the only difference being we cant get easy access to guns in the uk. Narcs utterly destroy you and then if you try to recover they come back to destroy you some more. I don’t condone murder....i do however understand.
Greetings Marie,
Harte felt sorrow for you.
Hope you are doing better now.
Build a life for yourself and move forward with your plans for the future.
Kind regards from Ireland Kate.
Grande's wry, dry humour throughout the commentary in this episode is truly delightful.
I did a whole study on the Betty Broderick case in college! Got an A!!!!!! However in my entire research and writings, I was consistently on Betty's side! Although there were situations that had occurred that I disagreed with on Betty's conduct, I did explain that everyone has a breaking point! All it takes is that one time! And the inevitable/ultimate thing will happen!!!!!!! That thing is murder!!!!!!! Was it justifiable?????? Which side of the coin are you on?????????? If you are the domineering, instigating, knowingly the one holding the power over another and the one showing off how shallow and manipulative you are towards another!!!!!!! You are ultimately plotting your own death/murder and not even realizing it is only a matter of time that the person you think you are controlling is the one plotting and planning their ultimate revenge on you!!!!!!!!! Your life!!!!!!! This happens more than we think!!!!!!!!
i know it's been 11 months but how's that 'exclamation point' key holding up?
@Hainted House I know it's been a day, but it's holding up just wonderful!!!!!! Thanks for asking!!!!!!! The logic in my comment was enough to make you reply something stupid 🙄 😒 🤣 😑 😂 😐 🙄!!
@@erikdykeman547yeah i picked up on your logic. BBroderick was authentically batshit, but she never snapped - she had been planning to kill both of them for 5 years (took a refresher course in firearms training in case her aim had gotten rusty.) what cracks me up is she told her oldest daughter "you know i had to kill him, one of us had to die, i couldn't let him win" - dialogue straight out of a bad western - Betty loved high drama (car through the front door) but at the time of the murders she had a decent settlement, a beautiful ocean front home and a new live-in boyfriend (where do i sign up?) so she chooses murder, a long visit to prison and leaving her kids without parents - not the brightest bulb in the box. she always claimed her kids meant everything to her - wasting their father is a peculiar way of showing it. I say 'Go ahead Betts, show the world you have the reactions of a psychotic toddler' i could honestly give two piss squirts, but don't pretend to be June Cleaver in court, attempting the ugly cry-face and invisible tears. I will say that Broderick had excellent teachers - her loveless cold-as-ice parents who were MIA during both trials may have produced the original Karen. now the big gal gets to spend the rest of her days in a 6x9 taking dumps with her buddies - perfect ending.
Hi Dr Grande. This case seems hard to be able to pinpoint who's right and who's wrong. I grew up with a severely narcissistic mother. And I know the feelings of rage and absolute pain that one goes through when they're being gaslighted all the time. I feel for Betty. When she got married her husband took control of everything. She became more of an object for him and her anger and pain just grew and grew. Because I grew up the way I did I can understand Betty's position and why she killed both her ex husband and his new wife. But on the other hand it's never right to kill anybody and she needed help desperately. I agree with you totally in the fact of why did he not carry a firearm in the house or have a guard dog in the house or as you said no alarm system in the house. To me this goes to show that he feels he's untouchable. He's to Grand of a person to be killed. This is such a sad case to me but murder is not okay. Thank you for this analysis and breaking it down so well. Have a great weekend. By the way thank you for all the great content you've been putting out I know it takes time and energy to do so.
Yep Dan was an asshole.
ibrudejude ROFL.such a simple way to put that. There are always consequences for bad decisions. So Dan and his mistress for their consequence handed to them and Betty got hers too. It’s just the way it is.
Hint: the one that committed murder
I heard a news report about this case where a close friend of Betty's who said that Dan had told HER-- Betty's friend-- that DAN HAD SAID HE BELIEVED BETTY WOULD NEVER KILL HIM-- even after all the crazy things she did! So the friend said in this report that OBVIOUSLY Dan was WRONG! Pretty sure THAT'S why he didn't have a gun, dog or alarm system. I think he truly believed that HE knew Betty was so in love with him, that she would never actually kill him!
Betty Broderick had the right to be angry. Her husband took her life first.
So she took two? ...
@Jean Savage technically she already drove her car into their house. Betty had a right to be angry, she didnt have a right to be murderous.
Ummm, yeah.... so that justifies murder in your eyes?
Yes she had the right to be angry but not to take the life of 2 people. She deprived her kids of their father who had been the main caretaker of those kids for some time. Whether you agree with what he did or not she had no right to kill him.
No. He divorced her. People get divorced all the time, they don’t murder their ex spouses over it.
Truly enjoy your segmented description of the subjects
Very interesting. Thanks for another thoughtful analysis, Dr. Grande. ☺
Thank you for pointing out that even tho she did commit murder...from what I remember reading at the time he drove her crazy....as you said, she supported him for years so he had his 2 degrees and then he lies, turns her in for the new model and proceeds to just annihilate her in the divorce. He literally stole her life...she no longer had her place in life...she lost her sense of who she was when he left her. Linda was also unkind to Betty. Of course every woman who is thus mistreated doesn't commit murder but boy oh boy I understand why she wanted to. She had no-one left to even talk to...all her friends were his friends wives. Again, thanks for seeing her side, I have always felt really sorry for her, she really got screwed.
Betty could always have walked away and started her own life. I feel she is a histrionic narcissist... it wasn't good enough to have a living, it had to be more... this was her sense of entitlement working. She went there to "make them listen" which is a desire to control others. She did not accept responsibility for pulling the trigger... she said "it went off"... well, guns don't fire themselves. Whatever narcissistic traits Dan had were matched by hers. I feel she's where she needs to be. Glad she's not on the streets.
She stalked them, destroyed property and made threats. But they’re the evil
Ones because she couldn’t move on
@@jeanettecook1088 couldn’t have said it better myself.
@@grandmaida7819 What specifically are you referring to?
@@jeanettecook1088 She told her oldest daughter: "You're NEXT!" Anyone like that should never see the light of day outside of prison walls again. There is a REASON her kids testified AGAINST her in court.
I always felt bad for her - not condoning what she did, though. Liked the last words commentary. 🤣
I always felt bad for her. He used her
@@AndriaBieberDesigns I did too and thought that made me a crazy person but she went through hell.
FREE BETTY!
Dr. Grande, you mentioned what most people miss in this case, Betty's behaviour was negative, long before the affair. This may have led to his affair (not excusing him) which ultimately led to his and Linda's death by the same long time aggressor. Speaks volumes about Betty. In summary, ALL three made wrong choices.
I , too, wondered why Dan Broderick never sought protect himself from a very unhinged ex-wife. Firearms, an alarm system, etc. Dr. Grande makes a clear case for Dan's own narcissitic behavior believing that Betty needed him too much for her lifestyle to do him any harm. This marriage was NOT made in heaven.
Betty worked to put Dan through University. No wonder she was devastated 😥
patricia donald-mcveigh and not just a 4-year degree, but medicine AND law. Imagine the cost.
Blind sided, as well.
patricia donald-mcveigh. I would do the same as her....
patricia donald-mcveigh everyone who’s been dumped and replaced murders 2 people? Why does any woman want someone who doesn’t want them?
So does that mean he was to be with her forever because she helped him through University?! It’s what couples do, support one another..my man works and I’m at home, should I stay with him forever because of this?!
Every time I hear this story, I wish I could time travel and just shake Betty and convince her Dan did her a favor by leaving her for the office tart. She deserved better and just needed to believe in herself. I think if Betty had one close friend to talk to, she would never have committed the murders. Her isolation and loneliness distorted her thinking. So very sad.
Her friends BEGGED her to stop. Get therapy. Move on. She lashed out at THEM for the suggestions...🤪🤪🤪
I went through this myself. I was incoherent for 3 years. I belonged in a hospital. I took the high road. I just withdrew and suffered until I healed.
It's like at the end of Dirty John, when it shows an alternate reality with her not lashing out at the lawyer, going to the court date Dan had lied about being moved (like her friend suggested), and stopping just before dropping the kids at his house. Just makes you wonder how many people are a few bad decisions away from breaking point.
@@meggy0 Exactly. Anyone could be Betty if things line up a certain way.
@@Rabbitsarewonderful homicidal violence isn't something you acquire, the capacity to murder is either in you or it's not. not everyone becomes a dangerous drama queen when things line up a certain way.
I can relate to being bullied and manipulated! It will drive someone crazy.
Didn't have a truthful relationship with her husband, why did she want him. I get her anger for someone tsking her husband, but to a point. She was over the top for stalking and craziness. Only Dr. Grande could diagnosis her, but she seems to have some degree of psychopathy. She could have started a new life. It's sad because she was probably so obsessed that her kids were emotionally neglected during her brutal obsessions.
I agree!
Plus there is no excuse for killing two people. The poor kids.
Did he say that she smeared his clothes with pie? I bet it was rhubarb.