20 GREATEST Baseball Players Of All Time
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you have to be specific on what players he missed and why...blanket statements like this cause confusion
U are right thank u Corey there are so so much better players u know of course there going 2 say ruth witch is a whole whole lot of bull
U are so so right if anything there are way way better players larry doby satchel Paige Roy Campanella Josh Gibson ernie banks Jose Canseco Orlando cepeda and roberto clemente of course should diffenely on the list and Reggie jackson all those guys should be on there instead my half ass Rickey henderson the only one I really really do agree with is joe di Maggio lou gehrig hank Aaron Willie mays maybe honus Wagner another bigg half ass u know what I mean
@@robscards6313randy Johnson lower than Clemens is insane
@@tompaul6704 Clemens has 7 cy young awards
You don’t have Roberto Clemente that’s wrong.
was thinking this too but we may be biased because we're Puerto Rican 😭😭
There are too many great players. I think the list is good
Clemente is nowhere near top 20. However, neither are cheaters
Clemente is 100% not a top 20 player
Nah, he isn’t a top-20 player, or really anywhere close. He was great, but not that great.
about time someone gave Rickey Henderson and Ichiro the respect they deserve
Pedro Guerrero, I just like the way it sound.
Ichiro is not even a top 50 player of all time, lol.
Bonds is not eligible. If you took in consideration of performance while playing for a sub par team most of his career you would have listed Ernie Banks. Childhood hero.
Given the many prime years that Teddy Ballgame was at war, he should be about #4.
This is my list: 1) Babe Ruth. 2) Willie Mays. 3)Ty Cobb. 4) Ted Williams. 5) Hank Aaron. 6) Honus Wagner. 7) Lou Gehrig. 8) Mickey Mantle. 9) Stan Musial. 10) Rogers Hornsby. 11) Tris Speaker. 12) Eddie Collins. 13) Jimmie Foxx. 14) Mel Ott. 15) Nap Lajoie. 16) Albert Pujols. 17) Rickey Henderson. 18) Mike Schmidt. 19) Frank Robinson. 20) Joe Morgan.
Pretty good list and I love the Big Red Machine, but Joe, really? Bonds, either one? Griffey Jr?, Ripken Jr ? Hell George Brett was better than Morgan. Clemente, McCovey, Brooks Robinson?
Thank You for this excellent compilation !!! And don't worry, there's no way in Earth you're going to please everyone, no one can, lists like these will never end discussion and controversy, if anything it will only sparkle more.
But I still think Roberto Clemente 🇵🇷 should have been included...
😂😆🤣😁😄
I would have Mays 1 and Ruth 2 because of his all around talent.
Take away all the drinking and hot dogs and the Babe would have been even better. Willy couldn't pitch either. Let's make him number 2 of all time.
Ted Williams at number 6 is wrong. Top 3
As a Cadinals fan wih baseball memories since 1960 or so you included the greatest Cardinals player ever Stan Muial as number 10 which makes me happy. You also included Babe Ruth number one and Willie Mays number two which I agree on as well. My greatest Cardinals players ever that follow Musial are Bob Gibson, Albert Puhols, and Rogers Hornsby. Here is my all-time Cardinals lineup: Brock - LF Hornsby - 2B Musial - RF Puhols - 1B Edmonds - CF Boyer - 3B Molina - C Ozzie Smith -ss Bob Gibson -P My bench is Ted Simmons - c, Frankie Frisch and Red Schoendienst in the infield, Enos Slaugther and Joe Medwick in the outfield.
My Top Ten: 1) Babe Ruth. 2) Willie Mays. 3) Ted Williams. 4)Ty Cobb. 5) Hank Aaron. 6) Rogers Hornsby. 7) Lou Gehrig. 8) Tony Gwynn. 9) Stan Musial. 10) Ken Griffey junior
Hey goofy, you left out Mickey Mantle.
Ken Griffey Jr. is overrated. Great player his first 10 seasons, but was mediocre af his last 10. He also only has 80 WAR for his career, which is still a lot, but I would expect more from a great.
Think of it both Musial and Griffey were born in Donora Pennsylvania
nice vid. it's always funny to me how Barry Bonds can't be credited as already having Hall of fame numbers before he doped up, yet players like Roger Clemens will be talked about as if he isn't just as contentious & known for doping as Bonds.
Mariano Rivera? Derek Jeter? Pete Rose? Wade Boggs?
You have Mike Trout over Joe D, this is absolutely crazy and this list is BOGUS
Mike Trout will probably be better than DiMaggio soon anyways.
@@spacedude1145 that's delusional
@Ramone-gf9ss Trout has a better career OPS, OPS+, OBP, and Slugging. Also has better WAR.
You didn't include me! Yesterday I had an impressive showing for Korea's Jinju Mania team, walking and striking out against two local high school pitchers. Truly a great moment in baseball history 😂
Yeah I hit a ball over the centerfield fence during a practice in my 11-12 year old Little League in Western Kentucky around 1985, and that doesn’t appear to be on this list either for some reason?? People make mistakes I know, but c’mon…I crushed that ball. Do your research!
Our sincere apologies to both of you, we will see if we can find some nice footage to include you in our next video ! 😁
@@aboutbaseball Thank you! Finally a result.
In 8th grade I hit 3 home runs in the All-Star game, off of only 3 swings. It's been downhill since, except for that one girl in high school... .😏
@@nicholasschroeder3678 yeah I had a great experience with a girl in highschool as well. I wonder if it’s the same girl….was her name Sandra??
George Herman Ruth the Babe was a great hitter and pitcher could do it all👍👍👍👍👍👍
Definitely number 1. Ruth for sure.
Pedro shouldn't even be sniffing the list of top 50! You didn't have Nolan Ryan, Pete Rose, Mark McGuire, Tony Gwinn, Ernie Banks, or dozens of other player you left out, who far surpassed some players on this list.
Mark used peds. Rose used amphetamines. They cheated.
I presume you meant Mark McGwire, otherwise I have no idea who Mark McGuire is
Pete Rose is the most overrated player ever along with DiMaggio. The dude was absolutely terrible his last 7-8 seasons, and purposefully kept himself in the lineup to break the hits record, even when he knew he was terrible.
How can you leave Nolan Ryan off the list a 27-year career 5,000-plus strikeouts 7 no-hitters 12 one-hit games how many 18 19 strikeout games
You could cut Nolan Ryan's career up and have three Hall of Fame careers
The guy lost almost as many games as he won. His career winning % was only .513. Barely a .500 pitcher.
If he had been on the Yankees or the Big Red machine that percentage would have been much higher and he would have had like 450 - 600 wins with maybe 200 losses
@@jeffzawislak1737 This is one thing I like about modern analysis. Wins and losses have a lot to do with the teams you're on, especially with players like Ryan. A 3.19 era and 5.7k strikeouts..........how do you not put him on a list of greatest players?
@@Grizzlied555 % was almost 53%. W% is not how you evaluate a pitched. He had a career era of 3.19. If he had teams as good as Maddux, he'd have a much higher winning %. Do you not know how team sports work?
Ryan was not as good as everyone thought he was.
I think you must have a catcher on here. Johnny Bench or Yogi Berra (I lean Bench because he was such a great fielder and catcher is a fielding-first position.) Or Josh Gibson -- but including NL players opens a whole can of worms. Mike Schmidt (3B) probably also belongs. And as much as I didn't care for him and that he was one-dimensional offensively, Pete Rose. His tenacity and longevity can't be overlooked. (Frank Robinson, Roberto Clemente, Christy Mathewson, Grover Alexander other **possible** omissions.)
Maybe Bob Euker should be on the list...oh, wait...this is a top 20 NOT just 20...lol
Pete Rose was terrible his last 7-8 seasons. Good player, but overrated.
Lists are always fun, good conversations and debates ensue.
Good list. You got number 1 and 2 written in stone. Ruth was simply unexplainable; the God of the Game, to this day. And Mays was the supreme NATURAL
How you ssy something bout barry but not mention anything bout Roger cheating
My father was one of the smartest baseball people I ever met. I once ask him who would be the first player you would take to build a winning dominate team…his answer…Pete Rose…
Pete Rose over Mickey Mantle? See a shrink.
I Think MLB HOF legend baseball ⚾🧢 Sr.willie Mayes will live to see 100
Great list....I would say make a way to add in Nolan Ryan, Cal Ripken, Jackie Robinson, and maybe Roberto Clemente....
Did I miss Mantle
My choice starting lineup
Jonny Bench- catcher
Pete Rose - third base
Joe Morgan- second base
Ken Griffey jr.- center field
Barry Larkin- shortstop
Rickey Henderson- left field
Barry Bonds- right field
Babe Ruth- pitcher
Other pitchers
Nolan Ryan
Cy Young
Sandy Koufax
Greg Maddex
Walter Johnson
Statchel Paige
Bob Gibson
Mariano Riviera
Randy Johnson
Rollie Fingers
Roger Clemons
Tom Seaver
Bench roster
Yogi Berra
Ty Cobb
Alex Rodriguez
Ted Williams
Lou Gehrig
Mike Schmitt
Bonds 7th? Please...
everyone is complaining about no Roberto Clemente but what about mike Schmidt?!
AI made this entire video. It’s so apparent with the commentary
Baseball is the most subjective when it comes to the greatest of all time
IKR, very subjective.
No problem with the pictured ones being the top three.
Cobb is number ONE period.
Read about the Negro league star Josh Gibson. The few times he played against major league star pitchers, he destroyed them. If he had played in the MLB he probably would have had the most home runs of any player.
@@fr2ncm9He did not destroy the mlb. He did not hit well at all against them. But Babe Ruth massacred the negro leagues. He averaged a home run against th around every 7 at bats and batted .455 against them.
Im tired of people not providing any reasons why they think so. Cobb was indeed great, but he was not better than Ruth. Ruth had a higher OBP, higher slugging, higher ops, higher ops+, and a higher WAR and a better peak. Ruth is the greatest and it’s really not close.
There is a lot of people saying what about this guy or that guy. These goat 🐐 lists can be debated forever.
When considering who should be on this list, I came up with most of the same players. My list included Sandy Koufax, Johnny Bench, and Mike Schmidt, and I wouldn't put Ruth ahead of Mays.
Ruth is #1 because of he was a pretty decent pitcher also before being a right fielder full time
Ruth is objectively better than Mays and that is a fact. Only argument for Mays is that he played against much better competition
Bonds no before steroids a good HOF player.
Bonds had 4 mvps and 6 gold gloves and almost 500 home runs before steroids
@@joel8692 And responsible for the Pirates losin 3 consecutive NLCS playoffs .
So no , Clemente and Rose are much better .
No Albert Pujols? What a joke.
Pujols used drugs
20 Players is too short when having both pitcher and regular players. Trout is too high and shouldn't be included he has way too many years to go still IMO.
NO CHEATERS Will Ever be a great ball player, period
How about the 1927 NY Yankee's Murderer Row?
YES. F the juicers. If Pete Rose isn't in the hall for something that MIGHT have affected games, BB, MMcG, RC, JC, ARod, etc should be banned from the game too. F'n cheaters. A little baseline or an emeroy board is one thing- injecting, abusing, and cheating by using illegal drugs is another altogether!
(Re: Rose- I get they Giamatti had to come down on him so hard- Baseball is still dealing with gambling and 1919. Still, I hope he gets in the hall, even if it has to be post mortum, as his final punishment.
If Bonds, Clemens, etc, ever get in they deserve a bunch of big fat asterisks ******!
I don't agree with a list that includes Pedro Martinez and doesn't include Mike Schmidt. I also recognize that Negro League players are very difficult to evaluate relative to MLB players but I can't imagine a list like this not including Josh Gibson.
You've got a great list, but there are others who deserve to be there like Nolan Ryan!!!
IKR
You cant have Willy Mays but no Barry Bonds. Bonds was HOF on both sides of the ball before he doped up.
frank robinson
I love Ichiro, but how on earth could you possibly justify having him over guys like Pujols, ARod, Ripken, Hornsby etc.
Plujos is the greatest player ever and in the modern Era he's by far th3 goat I don't know how h3 didn't make top 20
Ichuru and not Chipper Jones, California Ripken,Jr so many to and can be named
Ichiro had a career overseas before he came to MLB, so you can’t really go by just his stats. It’s not the craziest take
I suppose it depends on weather or not one takes is Japanese career into account. If he had played in the majors from the start, he would've easily beaten Rose in the all time hits list, and would be in the running for (no pun intended) career stolen bases, singles, put-outs, runs, etc ..
@@hoppy23
He didn't make the top 20 because he isn't even in the top 50. No counts, no rates, a poor runner and worse fielder.
However, he WAS a great batter for average and power, but, that's about it. Consider that Mantle, for example, beats him in literally every single (era-adjusted) category, esp in counts and black-ink, and was a 5-tool player, rather than Albert's 2! (Not that I'd kick A.P. off of my team, but he just isn't a historic-level player.)
WHY ON EARTH IS WALTER JOHNSON AT 9
No frank Robinson FOH
I'm a cincinnati native and the griffy years were horrible. I think he was a generational talent.But there was other guys on the list that were better, or longer more productive careers
Nice job! But, you left Mike Schmidt, the greatest third baseman of all time off the list.
Al kaline, Clemente, Albert, Mathewson, etc
Your list is null and void for several reasons. You left off Satchel Paige. You left off Nolan Ryan. You left off Cy Young.
You included a current player.
So current elite players that have already have personal accolades and stats than retired players arent eligible?
@@joel8692 When that current elite player does not have the stats as people left off his list then yes that is correct.
An excellent list. A little too much recency bias in the second ten. The only problem I have is that Lefty Grove was not on it. He should have replaced Greg Maddux. Clemens, and both Johnson's and Martinez were right on.
Consider this: Babe Ruth was number one on the list and had the highest OPS of all-time in history against lefthanders at 1130 They walked him 567 times and he struck out 460 times in 3067 plate appearances. Against Lefty Grove in 148 plate appearances Grove struck Babe out 45 times and walked him 13 times. His slugging percentage was 898 even tough. So if Ruth can lead the list, Grove should at least be on it.
And in his career Pedro pitched 2827.1 innings; From 1928-39 (excluding a sore armed season in 1934), Lefty Grove pitched 2826.2 innings. And this is how they compared:
..............................Lefty Grove...........................Pedro Martinez
won-lost record..........235-82...................................219-100
ERA.............................2.75........................................2.93
ERA+...........................168.........................................154
bWAR..........................95.7.........................................86.1
WAR/250....................8.46.........................................7.61
But wthou question Lefty Grove is the most under-rated superstar in MLB history. And this oversight was merely another example.
Did I miss Nolan Ryan and Bob Gibson?!?
Nolan Ryan is not a top 20 player of all time.
Nolan ryan isn't even top 50
Ryan was the best pitcher--ever--at striking players out AND keeping them from getting hits. AND he did it over an incredibly long career.
@@nicholasschroeder3678 He had a 112 career ERA+ and had only 83 war in 27 years, there are at least fifteen or more pitchers better than him. Also Ryan didn’t even have a career 10ks per nine he is in no way the best strikeout pitcher.
@@nicholasschroeder3678He lost almost as many games as he won. His winning % was a weak .513
My vote is for Al Kaline a 20 year veteran of consistent all around play for all of those 20 years he played.
Frank Robinson
Tell me you are from Detroit without telling me you are from Detroit
Why you gotta show that Rajai Davis home run in the beginning. It still makes my stomach drop
Honus Wagner at number 12? WHAT!?
He is top-five, easily. Bill James had him at number TWO. His 1908 season was the best in history- he league in EVERY SINGLE offensive category except home runs- Hits, walks, steals, singles, doubles, triples, average, slugging, OBP, RBI, etc. (and this was in the dead ball era)
AND, he was far and away the best shortstop in the game... Leading in put-outs, double plays, errors, etc.
...And that season wasn't much better than his average seasons- he played for 15+ years, and was productive in all of them. ...12th? C'mon.
Lou Gehrig , Done
A few years ago, I picked an all-time 25...... 1b. Gehrig 2b. Hornsby 3b. Schmidt ss Wagner rf. Ruth lf. Williams cf. Cobb c. Bench ..... Rotation 1.Johnson 2.Mathewson 3.Plank 4.Brown 5. Alexander...... Bullpen L. Waddel (heat) L. Hubel (screw) L. Koufax ( curve) R. Joss(heat) R. Walsh (spit) R. Wilhelm (knuckle) R. Rivera (cutter) ......Bench Dh. Foxx 4th of. Mays Pr/Ph/inf Collins utility inf. Ripken c2 Rodriguez...... Now that we are at 26, who should I add?
Grove or J. Foxx
Since you're actually fielding a team, you need a second catcher, so Berra I suppose. (Well, Josh Gibson if you're not excluding Negro League players.) I think you must have Aaron, but I can't argue against any of your OFs. I don't think you actually need a knuckleballer (or screwball pitcher; I would add Randy Johnson or Maddux instead), but cool to include one. 🙂
These lists, while fun to argue about, are pretty meaningless. First off, pitchers are really their own thing: you can't compare them to batsmen, and the contribution they make to the team is entirely different. Secondly, you really can't compare players across ages with any kind of validity. Best you can do is pick who were the most dominant players from the different eras. So a guy like Cobb should rank higher, for example, than Aaron, because he was clearly better than anyone else around at the time. Aaron had guys like Mays, Mantle, and Robinson around compiling similar records. But in the end, it's just opinions. BTW, Cobb wasnt the slathering racist monster of legend, not did he sharpen his spikes. The dumb lies shouldn't he endlessly repeated. He was just a really smart and aggressive player, and he was highly respected by his competitors.
You had guys like Sisler, and Hornsby playing at the same time as Cobb. Not to mention Ruth and Gehrig.
Well no Clemente, u know what world we live in. Nuff said .
I am sorry but the second you had pitchers on this kind of killed it for me. They deserve their own list! Also no steroid players should be allowed and believe me I love a lot of them!
Agree
I agree about the pitchers. They need their own list.
Ten years from now Shohei ⚾️htani might be #1 as the GOAT 🐐
No one but Ruth ever will be.
Ohtani already is the greatest baseball player in history.
@@kaitai5900He doesn’t have the counting stats. Ohtani is great, but he NEEDS the counting stats.
The slander of Cobb must stop. He was neither a racist, nor a cleat sharpener.
Nolan Ryan had the MOST Noah offers in Baseball but he could not crack the list???
Noah offers is from me not paying attention to the Ali auto correct...should be no-hitters, but no ah offers kinda makes sense also...lol
i dont care what anybody says but Bonds is #1 90% of the league was doing at the time
Crazy how a player like Ty Cobb is in but players these days get sooooo scrutinized for way less nasty behavior and actions….i see what baseball be doing though😅😭
How are you going to have Mike Trout and not Albert Pujols?
1)Babe Ruth 2)Ty Cobb 3)Lou Gehrig 4)Rogers Hornsby 5)Ted Williams 6)Jimmie Foxx 7)Stan Musial 8)Henry Aaron 9)Willie Mays 10)Cap Anson 11)Honus Wagner 12)Tris Speaker 13)Joe Dimaggio 14)Mickey Mantle 15)Joe Jackson 16)Napoleon Lajoie 17)Frank Robinson 18)Ken Griffey Jr 19)Albert Pujols 20)Ed Delahanty
Willie Mays is wayyyyy too low.
@@spacedude1145 ... and Stan Musial a little too high. As far as hitting alone, I'd have to put Ted Williams at #2. The man hit nearly .388 when he was nearly 40, and played more of his career with blacks than not. They couldn't get him out any better than the whites could.
Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds don't belong on this list. Josh Gibson, Oscar Charleston and Smokey Joe Williams do. Williams played in an exhibition against major league stars. He went head to head against HOF pitcher Walter Johnson and won.
Anyone that claims they are the greatest gets excluded from consideration. So eliminate Mays.
Yes. Plus Mays set almost no records and used amphetamines.
Lol wow thats some stupid logic.
Ted Williams came pretty close to calling himself the greatest.
Nah
@@Grizzlied555ok
Where is Aaron's black ink in the bb ency??? If you don't understand, look it up.
Idec about the rest of the list but if bonds isn’t 1 u just simply haven’t looked at baseball stats regardless of steroids they don’t teach u how to hit a ball and get over 2000 walks
Wrong, the steroids increased his bat speed and as a result raised his average and power. He also took HGH which improved his eyesight to that of a twenty year old. If Willie Mays took the drugs Bonds did he would have hit 800 or more home runs and batted 400.
The question is, when did he start using steroids. Bonds, I think that he started using Way before it was discovered
Overall, it's a good list. But lets talk #8 and #7? Mantle was broken down by time he turned 33 sure. But Bonds and his "incredible statistics" are insanely inflated AFTER age 35. Like the 268 HRs....AFTER 35. His OPS being .979 through 35, or prior to 2001...which was 1.298 from ages 36 through 42. Or his batting average being .289 through 35 and .334 after roids. Sorry, his "alleged steroid use" as stated in this video.
Bonds was great before steroids. But he was no Mickey Mantle.
Did Willie pitch?
This is an opinion piece. A big majority of the commenters needed to keep the useless opinions to them selves.
This list is missing sooo many guys & has guys who shouldnt be on here.
Ishiro does not belong on this list and neither does Henderson. Jimmy Fox does and Grover Alexander should be on it.
No baseball person says "point two one one bating average." it's "two eleven"
IKR, definitely an amateur
No Frank Robinson or Roberto Clemente? This is sooo wrong!
Where is nolan ryan???
he was a slightly above .500 pitcher and is not a top 20 player-Seaver and Gibson belong before him as well as Bob Feller-and where is Sandy Koufax?
Koufax and Ryan both don’t deserve to be on here.
Ichiro, Mike Trout, Ricky Henderson, Mantle, Lou Gherig too high; Ted Williams, Barry Bonds too low. Ichiro and Mike Trout are both not top 50 all time. Also, where the hell is Nolan Ryan.
This the weirdest list i ever heard of....lol
No Koufax?
Pete Rose and Roberto Clemente in place of Rickey Henderson and Ichiro Suzuki .
Pete and Ty Cobb probably helped their teams win more games than anyone because they had the most hits .
Base hits win ballgames , especially singles .
Pete had just as much power as Aaron , as he hit more doubles and triples than Hank .
Rickey was one of the most selfish non - team players as he would attempt to steal bases if the Oakland A's were winning or losing by 9 runs just to set stolen base records .
That isn't baseball .
Rickey's runs scored and stolen bases total should have an asterisk next to them .
The greatest leadoff hitter of all time at 20? Im done.
Mr October
Roger and Barry? NO! No doubt they were talented enough to be highly ranked without the PEDs, but Clemons’ lip-licking congressional testimony and Bond’s kicking sand in the face of the truly great hitters of the sport are too much to bear. At least Maguire eventually showed remorse.
Bonds?
Why is Albert Pujols not here
No Sandy Koufax? Can't take your list seriously.
No Ryan 🤷♂️
I’m a dodgers fan, but Koufax is a little overrated (along with Ryan.)
How is it possible to have a top 20 list without the greatest catcher in baseball history, Johnny Bench? Bench is not only a top 20 he’s in the top ten.
I’m also not impressed with three of the biggest cheaters in baseball history, Bonds, Clemons and spit ball Maddox are on this list.
Also, having a grad degree in human biology myself anyone who thinks using anabolic steroids and HGH is controversial in regard to the performance gains just simply doesn’t know what they are talking about. That boat sailed a long time ago and there is absolutely solid undisputed scientific evidence that these PED’s do give baseball players substantial advantages.
Bench is not even top 30.
@@Grizzlied555 You crazy. Catcher is the most important defensive position player on a team and Bench is undeniably the best catcher in MLB history. Not only that he could hit a ton. Most don’t. There has never been a MLB catcher who were as good both defensively and offensively as Bench and he won a ton of games for the Reds by preventing opposing players from advancing or stealing bases. Best there ever was at throwing out base stealers . Definitely a top ten.
@@Grizzlied555Yes, he is. Bench put up insanely impressive numbers for his position. You need to look at his numbers relative to the catcher position. He was the best overall catcher in the history of the game. Amazing defense with a great arm, and astounding power from a catcher. 10 GG, and 2 MVPS.
Rogers Hornsby
Sandy Koufax and Roberto Clemente.
Yes were Is albert Pujols
Negro League players are missing (except for Mays and Aaron, who started in the NNLs)
So, some of the greatest are missing (maybe even THE greatest- except for Ruth, of course!)-
This list is missing, at least, Oscar Charleston, Paige, Pop Lloyd, and Josh Gibson, who were all among the greatest! ...And Cool Papa Bell!
Satchel Paige had a sub-3 ERA in the Majors- after his rookie season when he was over 50 years old. In the negro leagues (which were probably as good as the majors in his time), over the years he threw a TON of no-hitters. Not only 7 like Nolan Ryan, not 10, or 15... But 100! (Well, he did pitch around 120 games each year, so he had the opportunity to do so. 100 is still hard to believe, but even if he had one fifth as many... And: Paige would pull a stunt when a game was on the line by waving the outfielders to leave the field- and would proceed to strike out the side... He had a winning record against major league all star touring teams in the off season, too.
When Honus Wagner was asked what he thought about Pop Lloyd being called 'the black Honus Wagner', he said 'I'd be honored to be called the white Pop Lloyd!'
And, Re: 'Cool Papa's Bell'... A famous baseball writer once said that 'He is so fast, he makes Ty Cobb look like a runner with a handicap!'
Josh Gibson had over 800 home runs against MLB quality pitchers- and he died in his prime!
And Charleston? He is most like Babe Ruth. (Ruth is still #1, of course!)
Also missing from this list is #23.
Barry Bonds- "alleged steroids user"? nothing alleged, he was a PED user without any doubt
Bob Gibson ???
ALBERT PUJOULS
This list is fucked.
If you brought Babe Ruth, who was 6’2”, 215 lbs into the modern game, he’d probably be sent down in the first week to AAA, and then eventually, AA.
For starters, he’d be small compared to a lot of guys now.
Second, he hit most of his carer against two pitch types, with the Slider only appearing in the 30’s.
You send someone like Ohtani, who he is compared to a ton, back to 1927, and he’d hit over 100 home runs, plus strike out 400 batters. He has mastery of 6 pitch types, working on a 7th. Plus, Ohtani can throw over 100 mph, when he wants to, as shown by the fact he regularly does so when runners are on 3rd, just to let them know they won’t beat his speed.
You didn’t even put Ohtani on this list, and a lot of people would tell you he has an argument as the GOAT, because no one has done what he’s done, at his level.
Then, Bonds is on this list.
If you are going to include Bonds, technically, he should be number 1. His 2001-2004 seasons make him number one, and it isn’t even fucking close.
Most disqualify him based on the use of the juice, but almost anyone that knows about baseball would tell you, if you’re going to include him, he goes above Ruth.
Comparing eras isn’t fair. You specifically knew that but you still did it. If Ruth was dropped into todays game he would probably not be amazing. But if he was born into todays game with modern medicine, nutrition, and training techniques he’d be amazing. Bonds is also still not ahead of Ruth despite the better peak. Bonds has a 162.8 WAR to Ruth’s 182.6.
Without Koufax, this list is crap!