TOP 15 MLB UNBREAKABLE CAREER RECORDS!! - Ridiculous UNTOUCHABLE Numbers!!
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- Today we will be counting down my Top 15 UNBREAKABLE CAREER MLB RECORDS!! These are CAREER (And consecutive game) records, not individual season records. Many of these records were set in the early days of baseball and with the changes in the game, there is no way ANY player could ever get close to some of these records!
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I’ve seen Pete Rose comment more than once how Johnny van der Meer’s back-to-back no-no’s is unbreakable because it would take 3 in a row, he makes a good point
Ain't happening. Vander Meer's back-to-back no hit games will forever be preserved, never to be approached.
It's rather doubtful we'll see 27 innings pitched in three consecutive starts, let alone three no-hitters.
@@KevinMiller-xn5vu We shall see how Skenes ends up.
Yep, sorry ass pitchers today can't even pitch a complete game.
@@KevinMiller-xn5vu except that that's still 'Possible'...what is not possible is Cy Youngs 511 wins and 749 complete games...Those 2 are totally IMPOSSIBLE! (FACT)
Walter Johnson is looking down from heaven laughing with his shut out record every time we talk about modern pitching and all the improvements we've made!
Laughing, I’m sure he is cursing pitchers.
Modern improvement. lol With the way pitchers get hurt so often, it doesn’t seem like such an improvement to me.
Not to mention he is still second in all time wins and at one time held the career strikeout record too!
Walter Johnson threw a much softer, much dirtier ball for the majority of his career too. I'm not poo-pooing him at all, just making a point. The game is drastically different.
Walter Johnson is dead and heaven is a primitive myth.
Seeing this list makes me so glad I grew up in a time before analytics. The very idea that a pitcher could be yanked out of a perfect game is absolutely ridiculous. A lot of the little things mentioned here makes me realize that advanced analytics have in fact ruined the game more than helped it.
I hope this comment sounds old, because this is one case where I WANT to sound old!
Another record I like is four pitchers on the Blatimore Orioles each winning 20 gmes in a season. Hard to get 4 pitchers in all of MLB to win 20 games in a season.
Ted Williams' 84 game on base streak. Dick Hall's 5,085 batters faced and 1 wild pitch.
FYI, Clayton Kershaw has fewer career shutouts than Babe Ruth
DAMN!
Babe the ace!
That's great trivia!
Here is a trivia question for you! Who is the only Hall of Famer to have pitched at least 10 seasons and every season had a winning record? (Scroll down)
Babe Ruth!
And can't win a playoff game unless it's a 60 game season. A well deserved asterisk in my book
Even more trivia about the Babe. He pitched 29 2/3 consecutive scoreless world series innings, a record which stood for 43 years until Whitey Ford broke it in 1961.
@@patcarter-ix2zb I love it!
Here's something for you!
Babe Ruth hit 60 home runs in 1927.
He hit 14% of all home runs in his league that year.
For a player to hit 14% of all home runs today, he would have to hit over 300 home runs in one season.
You forgot Ruth's lifetime slugging average of .690!! No one will ever get near that.The closest any player has gotten is Ted Williams and Lou Gehrig, who are both 56 points below.
Actually, MLB just broke this record by including Negro League stats as official MLB statistics. Gibson now has the lifetime SLG% record at over .700.
Josh Gibson, .718 ⚾️
Your list is spot on. The fact that all the unbreakable pitching records occurred before 1940 except for Nolan Ryan's just goes to show you how awesome he was.
Not quite- 1.12 season ERA by Bob Gibson 1968 - will never be broken. Ryan never came close to that.
$245 million dollars for less than 30 innings pitched-Stephen Strasburg. Never be broken😂
Actually, I can see this being broken. Salaries keep going up and there's bound to be a pitcher who'll get a big money contract and get a career ending injury after a couple games into the contract.
Byron Buxton is on track to play the least innings for the most money.
I just spit out my coffee laughing at this. How true
@@baxtronx5972did buxton sign a huge extension recently? If not no way he catches Stras or Chris Davis
It truly is wild right? I hope he gives a nice chunk to charity considering he did very little for all of it
What about Johnny Vander Meer's 2 no-hitters in a row? In order to break it someone would need to throw 3 no-hitters in a row. That's pretty tough.
Babe Ruth set the all-time single season Home Run record FOUR times! (29,54,59,60). For a player to do that now they would have to have 4 seasons of more than 73 homers, with each season getting incrementally better. Fernado Tatis hit two Grand Slams in a single inning. To break it someone would have to hit THREE Grand Slams in an inning. That's never happening.
@@dandiehm8414 those are also pretty tough records to break.
I would argue that Yadier Molina and Adam Wainwright's career starts by a single battery should be on this list
id give an honorable mention at the very least to randy "the big unit" johnson for having 5 consecutive 300+ strikeout seasons. '98, '99, '00, '01 and '02. there have been a total of 5 300+ strikeout seasons since then. gotta give the unit respect
One amazing fact that a lot of people don't know about Joe Dimaggio's hitting streak is, after the 56 game streak was broken, he went on to hit safely in another 16 straight games. At least one hit in 72 of 73 straight games....amazing.
Ty Cobb stole home 54 times. Will straight up never be broken.
No kidding. Second place on that list is Max Carey at 33, still 21 behind Cobb.
@Slayerformayor1983
That's mind-booggling, Did pitchers simply not hold runners on third during those times?
The dead ball era was odd for sure. First of all, ty Cobb was fast. Like...stupid fast. Second, he was ruthless. He played baseball at its most contact oriented. Crazy slides, straight up tackling pitchers/catchers trying to apply a tag was commonplace. Third, the dead ball era was known for extremely risky baserunning. Because the balls were dead, they weren’t flying over fences, so teams got runs by creating absolute chaos on the base paths. Ty Cobb was the best position player in this eta by a hefty margin. Lastly, pitchers likely didn’t pitch from the stretch when runners were on third, figuring that stealing home was a bit of a fool's errand. Cobb would regularly shake up pitchers when he was on third, and if he had another baserunner drawing attention on first with a heavy lead or outright running, Cobb could get the jump on pitchers. His speed and his instincts were second to none in his time.
The most balliest baller of all time imo.
Absolutely
Cy Young also pitched an unbelievable 7,356 innings.
A few that come to mind...
Don Mattingly's 6 grand slams in 1987
Mickey Mantle's 18 WS homers
Orel Hershiser's 59.2 consecutive scoreless innings
Hack Wilson's 191 RBIs in 1930
Grover Alexander's 16 shutouts in 1916
Charles Radbourne's 60 wins in 1884
He mentioned at the start of the video that he’s only listing career or consecutive records on this list. He decided to exclude single season or single game records from this list. I don’t blame him. Those types of records are hard to compare to career records because different things are required to break them.
I forgot about Orel’s shoutout streak. No one is going to do that nowadays cause they would need about 20 starts just to get to that many innings
@@jasonertle4185Wait, wouldn't Mantle's record be considered over his career? If Joe's record wasn't a career record why wouldn't Orel's be considered as well? Just saying.
@@Smoothstinger Okay, I’ll grant you those two. Mantle’s record and Orel’s record could be considered for this list. The other ones he mentioned can’t.
Royce Lewis almost broke the Grand slam record last year and he was injured.
Tony Gwynn played 2440 career games and had over 10,200 plate appearances and only struck out 3 times in a game, once. That'll never happen again.
Over nearly 145 years of professional baseball, no player was tougher to strike out than Hall of Fame shortstop Joe Sewell. In 7,132 career at-bats, Sewell heard the umpire say “Strike three” just 114 times. That's one strikeout for every 63 at-bats, or once every 17 games, or in just .
I don’t think anyone will break the consecutive scoreless innings record 59 2/3
I think a reliever could. I seriously doubt it though.
highly unlikely but not unbreakable imo. Ranger Suarez just had a 32 inning scoreless streak earlier this year, and with pitchers getting more and more dominant I could see it maybe happening, especially if the trend of pitching taking over the league continues. Still very unlikely though.
@@benluecken2839 now a days with analytics they won’t let a pitcher go that long
Pretty soon. Pitchers won't even throw 59 innings in a year pretty soon.
It is worth noting that Ichiro did go hunting for Rose's record, but he simply arrived to the MLB a few years too late to seriously challenge it. If Ichiro was allowed to come over at 21 instead of 27, he'd be much closer to the record if not own it. I get the fact that he's only at 3k hits, but Ichiro owns the single season hits record. It's not impossible for him to have gotten there if he was allowed over "on time."
I will never forget ... when Ichiro was in his first spring training, the late great Tony Gwynn said he was great, but thought he was too small to stand up to the rigors of MLB.
And 10 seasons straight with 200 hits in itself is great. Pete Rose never did that. He had 10 200 hit seasons but not consecutive.
Coulda Woulda shoulda! And Tiger should have broken Jacks record but never going to be broken !!!!!
@@davidsmith-uw2ciin an washed down pitcher era except for the Braves !
Ted Williams lost what 5 seasons to military war duty !!
Johnny Vander Meer, 2 consecutive no-hitters
No one will ever get 3 in a row
Babe Ruth set the all-time single season Home Run record FOUR times! (29,54,59,60). For a player to do that now they would have to have 4 seasons of more than 73 homers, with each season getting incrementally better. Fernado Tatis hit two Grand Slams in a single inning. To break it someone would have to hit THREE Grand Slams in an inning. That's never happening.
Nice to see some love for Sam Crawford’s triples record it’s seem to always be forgotten on lists of this nature.
As an Orioles fan I love seeing the all time sacrifice fly list having Eddie Murray at #1 with 128, and Cal Ripken at #2 with 127.. there are no active players within the top 30, though #3 on the list is Puljos.
I think Murray leads the list, in part, bc he learned the game from Earl Weaver and Cal Sr, and Cal Jr has said Eddie Murray taught him how to be a big leaguer
It’s insane to think that Cy Young has more complete games than Hank Aaron has homeruns. Just really think about that.
Back in Cy Young's days, pitchers seldom threw at full velocity. Plus, they didn't throw arm-killing pitches like the slider. Today, hitters are just too good to finesse them. You have to have both speed and movement to survive, and those attributes tire pitchers. Pitch counts and relief pitching have changed pitching for good.
Cy Young also didn't pitch from 60' 6".
@@ronparton9185 But he did. Young's career spanned from 1890 through 1911. The mound was moved to its current distance in 1893. Thus, he pitched at that distance for 19 of his 22 years (or 86% of it).
Possibly so but really you can't judge even the speed of Pitchers in the early 50's . Some had lots of Strikeouts & some of players of that era rank high on some lists . With some like Walter Johnson who is up high either batters could not hit, or with Strikeouts Pitchers had to throw pretty fast . No speed guns till Nolan Ryan's time .
@@snuffysmith6842 It's not just the speed guns. Their philosophy towards pitching was different.
As for Nolan, he was almost certainly under-measured. Back then, when he was measured at over 100 mph, it was the AVERAGE speed of the pitch. These days, modern guns measure the PEAK speed.
Great list! I would tweak it a little bit though… I would have Ty Cobb at three, Walter Johnson at two, and anything by Cy Young at number one. He has several unbreakable records due the era he was in.
The No-No record will never be broken
Ichiro hitting 262 in a single season is probably unbreakable. You're looking at a player who would need 2 hits in 132 games in a 162 game season to break it. That's just not going to happen anymore.
Craziest thing about that season is he didn’t even have a hit streak that was half of DiMaggio’s as his career best was 27 in 2009. So not only did he have to average 2 hits a game for 80.9% of the season he had quite a few 0 hit games that year as well 😮
Longevity (20+) and total number of at-bats is crucial. For example, Pete Rose, who has the most hits ever, also has the most plate appearances as well. If viewed through that lens, the record is no less impressive, but if we were to look at his PA/hits percentage, several players would be ahead of him. Another example, is the number of career plate appearances by Ruth, Aaron, and Bonds, you notice that Ruth came to the plate far less than the other two guys. Here’s something I think about: imagine if Ted Williams didn’t miss 3 entire season in his prime. The year before he joined the Air Force, in 1941, he hit .406, and came in 2nd in AL MVP voting. That was the year DiMaggio hit in 60 straight games. Williams came to the plate 90 times less, but still beat DiMaggio in every single offensive category, except for having 5 less RBIs. Moving on, after missing those 3 years, he still won the AL MVP the year he returned. I know it has nothing to do with this record video, but it reminded me that William’s was the best pure hitter the game has ever seen.
Dimaggiohit in 56 straight games not 60.
@@jeffrecob8646 I know, I realized my mistake afterwards.
Williams also missed two years in the Korean war!!
How about Jesse Burkett’s 55 inside the park home runs? No one’s ever coming close to that one again.
I'm not one of those people who's going to say that Ichiro is the true hit king, but he does serve as proof of concept that Rose's record could be broken by someone special.
Main issue is just longevity. Pete Rose, by his 162 game averages, is not as good as Don Mattingly was, despite the hit Mattinglys numbers took due to the back injury. But Rose played the most games, had the most ABs and plate appearances.
Overall, Rose was a very good hitter, batted .307, but he is probably not even on the top 100 best pure hitters list.
So you're dead on about Ichiro. A player with decent longevity and health but god tier hitting ability should one day happen, and then the record will fall.
Ichiro isn't a creep so he's my hit king
A player, such as ichiro, would have to not care about obp
The game shifting to a power over contact approach makes this difficult, but not impossible. Great take.
Not top 100??? Most at bats ever and still a career .300 hitter… his longevity and consistency alone easily puts him in top 100.
The only reason Lou Gehrig's record was broken is that he became ill......and died
That and Cal's daddy was on the coaching staff so they put him in the starting lineup on days he was injured or ill and should have been on the bench.
Fun fact: The Tampa Bay Rays FRANCHISE (meaning every player who's ever worn a tampa cap) just recently passed Barry Bond's career intentional walks. if there was one thing barry could do better than homering, it was getting to first base.
wow I love that stat! Have you confirmed it?
Or maybe ingesting PEDs
I love this page. You know it's a crazy bunch of stats when Barry's Hrs are a Honerable Mention.
Theodore Samuel Williams - .406 in 1941 and he wasn't the MVP that year because Joe DiMaggio hit safely in 56 straight. George Brett was close to .400 one year but faded late and ended up in the 380's.
Fantastic video. It shows (a) how much the game has changed and (b) how we need to consider these records in context, rather than absolute.
Glad to see a new TOP video. Great job as usual.
humm baby’s vids are goated
I may not always agree with him, but his videos and voice are classic.
It's too bad that wouldn't count Ichiro's combined NPB and MLB hit record of 4,367 over Pete Rose's 4,256. It makes me wonder if Ichiro would have been the hiit king if he started his career in the Majors instead of NPB?
Bob Gibson -1.12 ERA in 1968 - will never be broken. No one has come close.
Very informative video! Thanks!
For Wins:
Zack Greinke is neither active nor the leader, it's Verlander with 258.
In Regards to Cy Young's wins/complete games and how unique he was: In Cy's day pitchers did pitch more, but the extra usage wore out their arms so that most were done by 32-35, and as a result later generations of pitchers could equal the 300-350 win level by pitching into their 40s, essentially trading starts early in their career for starts later in their career. Like other pitchers of his era, .Cy hit 300 wins in his age 34 season.....and then pitched 10 more years, .retiring at the age it took even guys in the 1980s like Nolan Ryan and Steve Carlton, no strangers to heavy workloads to reach 300 wins.
The theoretical limit of any other pitcher to play the game is about 400 wins (Walter Johnson got to 417 by age 39, Warren Spahn finished with 363 but missed 3 years due to WW2 and possibly could have gotten there with the extra time), and Cy clears that by 100 wins.
He may have had the single most durable arm of any human being to play baseball.
In addition, Nolan Ryan got to 324 wins, but he played on a lot of bad teams in his career. Had he gotten more support, he might could’ve approached 400 or more wins.
If a Home Run hitter came up young and stayed healty, he could pursue Bonds 762 if he plays a long career and kept playing as a DH, especially if he played his whole career in a ballpark that helped him. Pujols ended up with 703 in recent times. I think it can be done, but 800 would be tough.
What about Mickey Mantle’s 18 World Series homers?
Great video! Thank dude.
Fernando Tatis's 2 Grand Slams in one inning. Could someone tie it? Sure, though probably still unlikely. Could anyone BREAK it and hit 3 in one inning? Pretty sure we will never see that.
Chan Ho Park is the only pitcher to give up two grand slams in one inning, as well. Unbreakable as well? 🤔
Yep!!
Yep!!
Babe Ruth set the all-time single season Home Run record FOUR times! (29,54,59,60). For a player to do that now they would have to have 4 seasons of more than 73 homers, with each season getting incrementally better.
And they were both of the same Pitcher
Nice list although technically DiMaggio's record is not a career record. As a kid I was certain that no one could ever break Gehrig's record or get 4,000 hits so you never know. Elly DeLaCruz may get 100 steals this year and he's young but it's a stretch to think he will approach Ricky because besides speed you also have to be a consistently good hitter.
The Babe’s slugging% and OPS%!
If Cal Ripkens record is to be broken it will be by a DH and not a guy who plays in the field.
Like ur enthusiasm about someone in todays era breaking Barry Bonds HR record, but it's not happening without the use of PEDs. Barry's record stands but will always be marred bcuz of the steroids scandal. Today's players don't have the longevity it takes to break some of these records. Injury is the #1 killer of these players. It's amazing with the advancement of training and technology along with medicine that the past players didn't have that today's players struggle with injury
Following Mark Buehrle's perfect game he was perfect heading into the 6th inning of his next start, retiring 17 batters. He recorded 45 outs in a row. 45 was the record in 2009. I don't know if it has been broken.
Yusmeiro Petit broke that record recording 46 outs in a row in 2014.
These records set in the early years of baseball reminds me of the Baseball Barbasol commercial. “I’m your great granddad getting through pitching 17 innings after a breakfast of beans and scotch while you’re there needing a nap after channel surfing. If you’re not gonna act like a man, at least shave like a man. Oh look, they’re sending in the relief pitcher…. Me.”
😂😂😂
While it's not a record, no one will pitch TWO World Series perfect games, let alone one.
This is a great list!
This is a great video!
Excellent video! Can't argue with any of of it. I can think of a few more, but they aren't particularly "career" records (other than Ruth): 1. Babe Ruth set the all-time single season Home Run record FOUR times! (29,54,59,60). For a player to do that now they would have to have 4 seasons of more than 73 homers, with each season getting incrementally better. 2. Fernado Tatis hit two Grand Slams in a single inning. To break it someone would have to hit THREE Grand Slams in an inning. That's never happening. 3. Johnny Vandermeer threw two consecutive no hitters. To break that record someone would have to throw THREE no hitters in a row!
Luis Castillo of the Florida Marlins had a 35 game hit streak in 2002
So did Chase Utley (35) and Jimmy Rollins (36) with the Phillies around 2005 and 06.
Rollins streak was over two separate seasons if I remember correctly. Loved J-Roll!
@@kevinalexander6812 True. It was actually a 38 game streak. For some reason it's now listed as a 36 game, single season streak, at least from what I've seen recently.
Thanks for the info God bless I love baseball
Sure enjoy your videos Erik
SO that's why it's called the cy Young award! WOW that guy was supernatural!
Excellent plus job !!!
How many years would DeGrom have to play to get to 511 wins
112
Or Kershaw, Verlander or any other elite pitcher of the last 20 years, maybe those guys would have more wins if they prepared to pitch for more than 4 innings per game.
DeGrom cares too much about other things in life. Not that there is anything wrong with his logic. Hard to motivate a family man and Christian with the hundred million he has now. He will be gone soon.
Great video! Yet I feel conflicted about when it was mentioned that Nolan Ryan's 5714 K's "would never come close" - remember that Randy Johnson ended up with 4850 K's - would have loved to see him reach 5000 - I looked up to both players and admire them. Also, it is my personal opinion that Manfred has ruined the game totally with all these useless rule changes and modifications...this is why some records MAY never be broken.
Commenting before fully watching: No one will beat Nolan Ryan's seven no-hitters
Correct
@@HummBabyBaseballor his strike out record
Or his career walks record, but that’s for another video
In nine seasons as a pitcher with the Astros (his longest tenure with any team), Ryan compiled a 106-94 record in 282 starts, a 3.13 ERA, 1.20 WHIP, with 796 walks and 1,866 strikeouts in 1,854 innings.
Another fact about the triples leader, there were some stadiums at the time that didn’t have a outfield wall, just a rope to prevent fans from getting onto the field, if the ball went past it, it was a ground rule triple
😮 Whoa! I didn’t know that. That’s crazy!
Tatis' 2 grand slams in one inning. Vandermeer's back to back no hitters. Cy Young's 511 wins. Nolan Ryan's all-time SOs.
He did not mention CY Youngs wins but in essence the part about how many starts guys make today pretty much covers it. They wont even start that many games.
Cy young losses and complete games are far more unbreakable than 511 wins.....but all 3 are impossible. Just different degrees of impossibility
@@deathminder9206 Yes he did. #3 or #4 on the list was his 511 wins. #1 was his 749 Complete games.
@@deathminder9206 And the do NOT finish any.
DiMaggio hit 56 straight hit then went 0-4 the next game, then went on another 22 game hit streak...... WOW
Actually on July 17, 1941 he went 0-3 with a walk.
First inning ground out
Fourth inning walk
Seventh inning ground out
Eighth inning ground out into a DP.
It was fun looking that up!
It was 16 games I believe after the streak was broken not 22.
7 no hitters and Cal Ripkin's Iron Man streak will NEVER BE touched!
10:31 interesting that almost all the leader in on base percentage bat left.
Joe D faced something like 28 different pitchers during his streak. Players today could face that many in a week, and all of them throwing GAS!! 🔥 ⛽️
I don't think so.
Tony Gwynn has the highest career average for players who started their careers after WWII, and it isn't even close. He's 10 points above the next player.
I trust that all records were kept true and honest even far back! Like you say, some of these records are "sealed" because of changing times and customs as well as rules. In some cases it would be fair to take certain factors and changes into consideration such as "dead ball" and "live ball" era. An important thing though is health, longevity and endurance which is an important thing that is diminishing because of obesity and the lack of taking better care of ones self. These records are to be admired!
Ricky Henderson's home runs leading off a game.
Hell, Nolan Ryan has a double handful of unbreakable records by himself! 😂
great video
I don't know which was more impressive from Nolan Ryan: throwing a no-hitter at 44 or throwing one on Astroturf in a dome
The pre-1900 pitching records are totally unbreakable such as wins, innings pitched, complete games. Just looking up now Wilbur Wood for White Sox had 49 games started in 1972 which is 5 more than any other pitcher the last 100 years but thats still 26 short of all time record (pud galvin 1883, will white 1879 with 75 starts)
Omg! What about Babe Ruth career slugging percentage 690????????
Honestly, I have time believing that Rose didn't have that much ability. His best baseball tool/skill was his contact hitting and batting average. Rose played at a time when contact hitting and hitting .300 was valued quite highly. Rose won three batting titles. Rose did hit a lot of singles but he also hit a lot doubles, leading the NL in doubles five times. I think his long decline in his 40's kind of made people forget how good he was in his prime. In 1968, the Year of the Pitcher, Rose led the NL with a .335 BA and .391 OBP. He even slugged .470. I have read scouting reports who referred to Rose as the best all around player in the NL. This a major league scout whose job is to evaluate player skills. Brian Kenny talks about Rose's 13 year peak he averages 204 hits and .317 avg. In like 159 games a year. Rose stats play people like him or not.
Honorable mention? Griffey Sr. and Griffey Jr. with back-to-back homeruns.
Another record that I feel won't be broken, much less approach it, is the nearly 50 years and 7920 games the Chicago Cubs went without being no hit (Sandy Koufax 9-9-65 to 7-25-15-Cole Hamels).
Hi Erik. Go Giants!!!...
Mariano´s saves deserves an honorable mention, as well as his ERA+. Not unbreakable, but will be difficult to accomplish
Underscores the complete inferiority of the modern mlb on ALL levels.
My grandpa would have thrown 100 no-hitters if they didn't outlaw the "no-looking" pitch !
I've watched three of Nolan Ryan's no-hitters.. on TV but I watched it
You're right about Hendersons all-time steal record being untouchable but you should've mentioned Ty Cobb's 33 career steals of home. Untouchable!
I believe Cobb stole home 54 times. 33 is for the second place man - Max Carey.
One record not on the list. Johnny Vander Meer's 2 consecutive no hitters. But other than that these records are probably safe for eternity. Enjoyed this very much
Although not in your list because you didn't cover negatives, I think the most unbreakable recent record is Nolan Ryan's career record for Bases on Balls. With the modern understanding of the value of OBP, it seems inconceivable that any pitcher will ever be allowed to have the length of career they would need, while walking the number of batters they would need, to approach this record. He's almost 1000 walks ahead of the #2 guy already, and there will only be fewer challengers over time...
If Nolan Ryan did the same thing in this era, he would have the same length of career because the walks end up being largely irrelevant if you're not giving up hits and striking out over 1 an inning.
So I DO agree with you that the record is safe, I think the reason is that we won't see a pitcher that so dominant that he could survive walking that many.
That being said, today there's a rookie pitcher on the Yankees, Luis Gil, who has very good stats but is walking a ton of guys. But that's just a partial season while Ryan went 27 years.
Dude was a freak in so many ways.
I was watching a MLB classic World Series game today, they
mentioned that Mike Cuellar pitched 5 complete games in 1970 without a walk. That in itself will never be done again.
We have Blake Snell who won the Cy Young award last year pitching the way he did by walking a ton of guys and striking out even more guys. Even if he pitched the rest of his career until he's 45 (he's 31 right now), repeating the 2023 season stat-for-stat 14 more times, Snell doesn't even come close to entering the same stratosphere that Nolan Ryan was in. He just doesn't have the same longevity, even taking into account the weird shortened 2020 season. So it's pretty safe to say the BB record is just as unbreakable.
@@snerdterguson Although I didn't break this out separately in my comment, it's not *just* that pitchers now would be unlikely to be allowed to walk batters at the rate Nolan did early in his career. It's also that they'll probably never get anywhere near the same number of batters faced or innings pitched, even if they do pitch 27 years...
Cy Young's 749 complete games is totally out of reach. They pull guys after six innings with a no-hitter these days. Ridiculous.
Reading a bunch of the comments, I don’t know why nobody has mentioned Ichiro Suzuki had more hits than Pete Rose when you add his Japan hits with his MLB totals. Only mentioning it because it seems breakable.
Ron Hassey caught two perfect games.
Nolan Ryan has an unbeatable walks record.
Tough to narrow down the unbeatable records with so many to choose from.
Great effort, though, even if we like to argue about them!
As I recall, Joe D. had a 16-game streak right after the his 56-gamer got broken. If not for one great play in game 57, who knows... It could have been 73!
With the amount of starting pitchers barely staying in the game long enough to record a win, I can totally see a rule change happening for qualifying for a win.
It infuriates me that a starter can fitw example pitch 4 2/3 innings of perhaps shut out ball, get pulled because of an elevated pitch count, and then have a middle reliever vulture the victory for inducing a one pitch pop up.
I fully believe that how wins have been tallied has been unfair. An extreme example that’s parallel to this is Tommy John who I believe has the most career no-decisions. He played a long time, but many on some sub par teams. If you turn those no decisions into wins, not only would he be a HOFer, but would have over 400 victories.
I think you’re right. I think it’s unfair the way wins are tallied as well. I understand the 5 inning rule for starters, but relievers should have to pitcher a certain amount of innings to get credit for a win. The way it’s done now is not right.
I agree also. The pitcher can be pitching a 4 2/3 inning no-hitter, but with analytics and a high pitch count (due to walks, fouls, and full counts) the reliever comes in and gets the win from facing a single batter. Very wrong and should be looked at and changed.
I agree the scoreless innings by oral the pitchers don't go long enough anymore
I agree with this list & there may be 2 or 3 mentioned that gets broken yet I doubt any player has 10 % of fortitude or desire to eclipse them because of only playing for the pay & rest few if any care for anything else.
I agree Cy Young's CG record is the most unassailable, his wins record seems easy by comparison.
Rickey's steals record is the most ridiculous on a comparative basis though. He's a full *50%* beyond the number 2 guy, Lou Brock. The only other stat leader in any sport that comes close to lapping the competition like that is Gretzky's points record.
Other fun facts: ~23% of Rickey's steals were third base, Brock is at ~8.5%. Rickey was caught stealing 335 times, while Brock only barely trails him at 306.
I think it was Bill James (the baseball historian) who once said that if you Split Rickey Henderson into two players, BOTH would make the Hall of Fame. 🙂
Since its been a common comment, the Rose hits record is already known to be one that is more likely than others Ichiro is one example of why it COULD happen... Going in the other direction with pitching, Cy Young 511 wins should be number 1... teams dont care about personal stats anymore. Its at the point where a guy winning 20 games in a single year is almost non existent. Now having a pitcher average that for 25 years!!!! No pitcher will ever pitch 25 years much less be winning 20 games at min for each of those years.
The only thing with this theory is if you start what if or might be then you have to start counting hits for both sides in their career not just the one you like. So what coulda shoulda just doesn't work.
Noone mentioned Bobby Cox record of being tossed by far the most. I know its not a playing record, but its a hell of a record
Now that they have included Negro-League stats, many of these have been surpassed. Josh Gibson has a few of these records himself
Barry's record is very breakable bc it actually ended a few seasons too soon due to being blacklisted. He certainly could've crushed 38 more for an even 800.
The Steroid Era records need to come off the lists. Put those guys in the Hall, sure. They did those things when MLB tolerated them. But the records? Let's put Henry Aaron back on top, please.
Bonds faced pitchers who were on Steroids too.