BMW 5-Series G30 5er FULL REVIEW test driven all-new neu gen 2017/2018 - Autogefühl
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Autogefühl I can tell from the video the steering is lacking nothing like the 2013 f10
I can't believe you guys only have 142,697 subscribers. You do the best auto reviews on CZcams.
let's see how the community can push us - especially considering the latest annoying algorithm change on youtube which makes it even harder!
Autogefühl I don't understand, how is it annoying?
Very thorough, and Im a fan. But... Thomas often takes an age to get to the point, particularly when driving the car, and so his videos are at least 25% too long. It doesn't help that Thomas sometimes mumbles his way through his reviews, and it can be difficult to pick up clearly what he is saying. Autogefühl is great, but it needs a production editor for slicker, tighter, shorter packages.
+O Gordon - Hi - interesting point, but as a car and driving enthusiast I like Thomas's detailed reviews. I also like the long driving parts, especially with the views looking forward, and Thomas's sensible comments, as just by watching, and with Thomas's reactions, we can start to get a flavour of how a car drives on public roads and in traffic, and form our own views from our own experiences. Another observation, Thomas seems to keep the steering wheel stationary when driving straight - which is nice! I can understand Thomas, he is very good with words, and commentary, when driving. Cheers.
I am too, Kit Kat. Don't get me wrong. I like Thomas' thoroughness, but I do think that he needs to shorten and edit these things. The two things are not mutually exclusive. Im not saying make 'em 5 minutes long, just be a little briefer, tighter and more direct in commentary. CZcams is a competition for eyeballs. Unless I have a specific interest in a car, I rarely make it all the way through one of these vids in a single sitting. This is friendly criticism. Hope he keeps up the good work.
This car is one of my favorite luxury sedans
On the infotainment display: "Welcome, inside" ... that comma would drive me absolutely nuts.
Omg that’s so bad lol
Well, that is proper use of grammar.
It would drive me nuts not having it😀
I like how bmw has kept the dash clean and simple...I think audi virtual system is cool, but I think I'd find it distracting after awhile
Man... the white one with the performance package... a piece of art. Great video as always!
Autogefühl Trivia:
- The M550i will be the so far most powerful version, followed by _THE_ BMW M5 which will have even more power (and will come directly from BMW M GmbH).
- Our test vehicle 530d was equipped with the rear wheel steering, which is up to 2,7°, below 60 km/h opposite angle of the front wheels, above 60 km/h same angle as the front wheels. Compare a maximum of 3,5° at Renault which is why it feels more subtle in the BMW and not like the rear would break out, a wise decision imho.
- The degree of activation also depends on the driving mode selected.
- The one-piece-front-hood could be done because the lower part of the front bumper was lengthened a little bit to absorb the very first "touch" in a small front crash
- Yes, I also took a short ride off camera with the E12 M =) Suspension wise, it feels like driving a Mitsubishi Space Star today, but at that time, the suspension was super stiff and sporty.
- The Bluteooth connection worked later after many tries, the Apple CarPlay Wireless connection with the phone of the Infotainment Engineer (iPhone6), but not with mine (iPhone5). Seems there is some more work to be done.
Take care :)
/Thomas
How comfortable is the E63 AMG compared to this normal 5 series in your opinion? Great video, Thomas! Keep it up! :)
Autogefühl good review by the way, where was the test, Malveira? I liked the curves should had been pretty enjoyable to drive in there.
I gave a hint on the location in the video :)
yeah Malveira road to Sintra, I will search! Thanks
+Bruno Martins Base was Quinta da Penha Longa, Sintra.
Very nice car reviews, always enjoying your precise and considerate style! Keep up the good work! Greetings from Germany!
i like the new 5 series. it still looks sophisticated and sporty at the same time. Some people are complaining, that it hasn't changed much of the last series. But that is the beauty of it. It still has elements of the F10 and build some accents of the F30 and G11. You can really tell it is in the mid-luxury section of the bmw series. I love how BMW improve the new modells with some "small" changes
The only issue of the g30 is probably the big ass Key :-)
I love this channel, I love this presenter.
Compare M550i review: czcams.com/video/tdEjCwgtWEQ/video.html
I always have to come here , if i am really interested in a car! Thank you for the detailed, "classic style" reviews! And the HD :)
Fantastic review...thanks for taking so much time to review this 👍
you're welcome :)
Another fantastic review Thomas! Very informative, you guy just "get it" if you know what I mean! Keep up the good work and the high standards, it sets you way above and beyond the rest...rock on brother...
thanks michael!
Love your videos +autogefühl - isn't it amazing how well the E60 has stood the test of time?!
thans john stick with us !
Good review Thomas. I liked the camera angle used when you were driving the car. It gave a 'driver's eye view' and so a good idea of what it feels like to drive. Looks like a useful upgrade on the 'old' model and, particularly with the interior, BMW has made a significant step forwards. I have owned several BMWs over the years and can definitely say they make a very good product. I have also been to the Munich plant and seen them being made. They really do go to great lengths to ensure the end result is a quality product. I have no connection with BMW by the way, other than being a satisfied customer.
thanks andrew!
I love when Thomas does reviews, he doesn't miss anything !!!
in your service!
Great review as always. A nice evolution of the already great F10 5er.
Thomas you have one of the best jobs out there, especially on days like this when you get to test cars like this BMW, honestly a great car interior looks modern and classic at the same time and they didn't change the exterior too much because there was no need for it.
You have a large English following on your channel. I’ve been watching Thomas for years (when working in UK and when home in NZ) and enjoying your content and varying locations.
Awesome stephen!
DAT first gen E12 M
OK you're trying a bit too hard now Thomas (or whoever wrote this)
yea, but it's thomas, so,,, there =)
Hot full review as I expected, Danke vielmals Autogefühl.
BMW 5 series I'd quite a beautiful vehicle. I sorta want one even though I'm mainly an Audi guy.
Great review as always Thomas
A lot of preparation and energy and work in these videos - MUCH appreciated Thomas; good driving views out forward through the windscreen. Good to hear you liked the first gen E12 M. I like the interior lighting system, they've really thought about it. No air suspension, but as you've said before, 'air' could prove expensive to fix? Interesting to drive over bad surfaces in "sport" and you said it was still ok! A nice car to drive - just like the F10 I guess. It'll probably sell like hot cakes! Hope so.
thanks gordon! yeah if u have to fix the air susp it will get expensive, and this cant happen here =)
This gentleman does the best reviews and speaks such good english (loved the raining cats and dogs bit). I will be getting the 5 series when i change my car
Thanks 🙏 please share our channel / videos 😎
Excellent review that gives a compelte and personalized comments.
Wow...I love German cars...and this BMW, does not escape the rule...what a toy delight...
very nice videos Thomas, I have been watching few of them already, great job
Thx keep joining us!
OH YES! Nice to start my weekend, lets grab something to eat and to drink! Finally! Waited so long for this review! And yes I love the current BMW line up and the driving pleasure. But that's something personal ofcourse. ;) But this 5 series reviewed by my favourite channel and favourite presentator, makes it even better! Now let's enjoy this! Thanks Thomas :D
enjoy =)
Thanks Thomas! Great review! I have already bought one car due to your recommendation- new 5 will be the next ;)
glad we could help =)
Car looks very powerful. It's a dream car :)
I love my 535d, and hope they will make this 530d available here in America. I don't expect to ever see the big M Series diesel offered here, but it would be a kick. Your reviews are always a pleasure to watch. Not all reviewers put in the extra effort, so a big thanks!
thanks for recognizing!
I too like Sintra, a lot of reviews autogefuhl made in Lisbon :) nice car nice review as always greetings from portugal keep the good work
Obrigado!
Hallo,
super videos. Sehr anschaulich und angenehm.
Bitte die Stimmenlautstärke so regeln, dass es auch auf notebooks gut hörbar ist.
Muss bei meinem Zenbook die Kopfhörer anschließen um dich gut verstehen zu können.
lieben Gruß und einen guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr.
Haris
Excellent informative video & superb delivery too.
thanks, keep tuning in! In May, we ll have the M550i full review and also the Touring full driving review
Very nice & thorough review! The 5 just upped the game wow!
thanks, keep tuning in to Autogefuehl!
Great review Thomas, really enjoyed like always:)
:)
Thank you for das wirkliche tolle Video, wie immer klasse!
I just have ordered the new BMW 530d Sedan and I look forward to drive this great car.
+Heinz Henning danke :)
Thomas thank you for the work !!!! The best reporter!!
you re welcome !
A stunning and comprehensive review Thomas, l do think the new 5 series is a great improvement on the last car especially without the chrome embellishments
thanks for the support!
The lighting in the final summary segment is so cool. And beautiful location.
glad u like it!
Very and detailed review! The roads you traveled are awsome ;)
thanks! They sure are. Tune in to more of our reviews!
I really like how the digital cockpit instruments are reflecting the classic and simple known analog instruments.
Absolutely brilliant review...
Great review! thanks for speaking english so that everyone can enjoy it=)
appreciated :)
Once again great job Thomas!
thanks m8 !
Very good video, I'am a BMW fanatic and when a BMW is tested by Thomas, that makes me a good evening !
But I still prefere my actual BMW 5 series F10
:->
You, sir, are the best car reviewer in my opinion
thanks buddy, keep supporting us and spread the word!
I am really looking forward of the review from this 5 series from germany andy mayber there you can show us the autonomos driving feature :)
Thomas! Excellent review of the new BMW 5 series! I prefer the conservative look of the luxury line models. In addition, the 3 liter diesel with the X-drive system is my idea of a foul weather is perfect for my living conditions here. Sadly, where I live (U.S.) the federal government has this 'issues" with diesels these days.It's my hope we can get these fabulous vehicles sooner than later!
great review thomas. well done.
thanks m8
Waiting for this. Thank you thomas. Greetings from turkey!
thanks and greetings!
Great review thoroughly enjoyed it!
thanks!
Gutes und informatives Video. Danke. Kleiner Hinweis: ihr verwendet häufig "for sure".
Nice review! Calm and honest. I like it )) Greatings Ulco
thanks !
Good review Thomas. Will there also be analogue gauges available?
Great review Thomas. The new 5 series looks great even if it has been conservatively re designed. I'm sure it will sell very well. I see really only Mercedes Benz E class being a real competitor. Keep up the good work.
thanks man!
lov ur videos man..nd the scenes u choose are mind blowing..
thanks man keep following us!
Very nice review Thomas!
thanks, join us for more !
as always an exellent review! to me though, the best 5 series is the e60-61 hands down, a completely new style from the previous model... with the g30 i can't say that, unfortunately
Great review as usual!!!
Love the M Sport Model
so I put the thumbnail with that one =)
Great review Autogefuehl!!!
thanks byron!
A very interesting and good review. Many thanks!!
thanks for watching !
this is the very best reviewing channel so far, and i have seen many
thanks David spread the word for us!
When I get an opportunity, I will. Btw it would be great if you could make your own regular youtube show where you would review cars, make comparisons, answering questions, giving advice etc, just keep your own style as you are used to. I think people like your simplicity and seriousness and I think they would watch it rather than channels where they only try to make fun.
Hm, dont we have a regular review show? :)
You certainly have but I thought of something more complex, like top gear, only more decent and serious, where you could go through news in the world of cars, answer people's questions, compare cars, make reports, all in one longer episode. Not something overexciting, just keep it informative as usual. But that's just an idea. It is your channel and you can do whatever you want, I will keep watching your regular reviews.
We could do some discussion episodes, let me figure out smth
I've been so waiting for this review. I have the F10 535 xdrive and absolutely love its refinement and all the little things that add up to a great motoring experience. Most people think the F10 has electric power steering but only the rear wheel drives do the xdrives are still hydraulic(G30's are all electric steering). Notice how stable the handling is, the way the sunroof headliner is power(the E-Class and A6 are both manual). Notice how smooth the power trunk closes compared to the rapid close and very un-luxury like thunk of the E-Class. Audis have become so staid in their design and still don't have true rear drive luxury proportions. The new E-class does have a pretty and luxurious interior but the mood lighting is too much, also the center console is the piano black plastic trim that is impossible to keep clean and scratches so easily. I think the new G30 will be a huge hit with its conservative styling, beautiful driving characteristics and BMW DNA. I always wanted you to do an F10 review Thomas so we could compare your thoughts on the old vs new platform. Now if I order a new one and pick it up at the Welt if only you would meet me there, have some dinner, good conversation and a drive on the autobahn...it would be a fantastic trip. haha!
thanks for the interesting feedback :)
Superb review as always Thomas! I think the interior of the new E class is much better though. Will you make a review of the new M5 when it is revealed in 2017?
thanks daniel! for sure.
Good review, thumps up!
+Ruberhai appreciated! Stick to us :)
Great video, subscribed! :D very calm voice :)
great to have u with us now ! :)
My favorite gen of 5 series so far is the latest version, and I think 5th gen is also classic. I like my 535i e60. Twin turbo power is great and the steering is precise.
Beautiful car and beautiful review as always.!!
thx!
I've found your channel recently and I really like your in depth testing and analysis :)
I'm not sure, if you have answered this question but, what car do you drive in your private life? :)
Great review!
Thank you so much ! Danke
thanks stick with us !
great in depth review, thanks
thanks, tune in for more !
Very detailed review again Thomas, is there any chance you could try the car horn in future car reviews? It is not a very important part of the car abviously, but it might inch you even closer to a perfect review setup.
interesting idea =)
Very good review as usually, but the scenery helps 😃. Next time in Portugal try also Arrábida, the roads are even better to have a nice road test and spectacular mountain/sea views. Thank you.
nice looking forward to !
Super car. Love the attention to detail - and BMW haven't done too badly either.
A really nice video...very well done here.
However @ 10:24...there appears to be 1 or 2 cars missing...then you ask what is your favourite 5 series...however you did acknowledge that it was not popular.
Keep up the good reviews.
they didnt have all series on location as some other journalists crashed them before
+Autogefuhl - some journalists crashed them before? Who pays for that? And if a journalist crashes a new test car, or abuses a new test car or press car and say damages its engine or transmission, who pays? And will the journalist ever get asked back...?
thomas, it would be cool if when you hit the sport mode ( the dash turns red) for the interior ambient lighting to also turn red (would feel like the whole car is ready to engage in sport driving)
Great review. My 5 series comes early June :)
Congrats:)
You are the Bob Ross for car reviews...
Dear Thomas, really like your videos, keep up the good work! Small remark though, I have noticed in many of your videos when you test the "child safety" system of electronic trunks after the first try you always go for the second try without letting the system to reset. After the first try you should fully close and open the trunk in order the "child safety" function to work again.
thanks! Hm, how would that make a difference for the electronics?
It isn't interesting that I says each time that Tomas and autogefuhl reviews are the top of the top... Just saying that is a great car choice for premium classical sedan, I like the interior. I think we are arrived to the limit of the "old generation" of cars. With Hydrogen and full electric, we are now about to go into a brand new generation of cars.
thanks man, we can always use the support!
Another flawless review Thomas. :D From 2010 BMW just made small changes to the looks of this car, they should probably make some bigger changes. I am not sure this is good in the long run. Underneath it is probably more drastic. You can just feel refinement, and that every detail is ironed out. Although I am a Mercedes fan I really like this car. Especially how cockpit wraps around you, while in Mercedes you have acres of space. And that BMW feel on the road. Just pure pleasure driving it on the curvy mountain roads. It is hard to compare it with E-Class because of a different approach. BMW is more focused on driving, and sportiness, while Mercedes is pure comfort and luxury. Audi is in between, but they have front wheel drive. Problem is that this is just a BMW 5 Series, but with Mercedes it is THE NEW E-Class. It all comes on personal preference but with the new E-Class you get so much more of everything. And as you said BMW is way behind in technologies, design, and pretty much everything else. Don't get me wrong this is till one of the best cars in the world, but you would expect more from BMW. Some might say perfection is hard to overcome, but Mercedes did it with the new E-Class.
thanks for the feedback m8
Dejan Markovic I think the conservative german design of BMW is better than Mercedes korean soap design.
Those Pre-Production Cars will be crushed in future . ! Cant wait to see the Production Models . I love the White M sports
Thank you Thomas.I saw you video and your advie and did´n ordered a luxury line. Instead I ordered a connected package with comfort package. New bluestone color and bmw display key.
Glad we could help - have fun !
Wery nice presentation of the new G30 ! I will order this car in similar colours next week !
+Tor Atle Bekkevold 🤘be sure not to pick leather
Why not leather ?
Thank you for taking interest in this very important topic!
First to the practical reasons:
1. animal skin seats get hot in summer and you stick to the seat
2. they are cold in winter
3. on cloth or microfibre, you basically don’t need seat heating nor cooling
4. animal skin seats wear out very fast and look like granny’s old sofa
5. if you want leather look, the leatherette (faux leather) surfaces are meanwhile highly evolved and it is possible that it feels even softer and better than anything else (See our Tesla Model X review) So Tesla shows that the discussion wether you need animal skin is basically done.
Still, now to the environmental reasons:
1. There are many productions where the cow is killed for the skin first, sometimes even alive, the skin is the most profitable single part of the body.
2. The way the cows are held are catastrophic (see videos below)
3. Even if a cow gets killed for meat first, you give additional money to an industry that relies on murder, pollutes the environment and harms people with chemicals.
4. Does it really matter for which cause a mammal, that is 99 % genetically identical with us, gets killed? Would you say a cow only got slaughtered for the meat in the leg and thus it got slaughtered for the meat in the neck anyway? That doesn’t make sense.
5. So to the often said argument, animal skin would just be a byproduct, please google/youtube "leather is not a byproduct" you will find plenty of information. A good overview on all those issues can also be found here: adaptt.org/
6. Let's say you are standing at the meat counter. And you ask for the leg of the cow. The butcher tells you: "You can eat that without worrying, the cow was slaughtered for the neck first". The next customer demands the neck. The butcher tells him: "It's not your fault, the cow was slaughtered for the belly". An the next customer demands the hide, what answer does he get? You see, that argument of "byproduct" comes from the meat and leather industry to cover that you contribute to killing no matter which part of the body you buy.
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Great review as always, Thomas.Nice ending with that marvelous scenery.Can you tell me the location?.Looking forward to your next videos.Take care !
watched the whole one? I've told the location in the driving part :)
Autogefühl oh..i've missed it probably.No problem, I will watch it again :)
Favourite 5 series? E39 with M package and facelift for sure. Together with the M62/S62 engine (V8) it might be my favourite BMW of all time
Great job as usual Thomas.
Will you do a Head to Head whith the E class?
Obrigado.
hey ricardo, I always mention the comparisons in every review if you watch it full length. Also check out our E-Class episodes:
czcams.com/video/Pq5LDi3-ChU/video.html
czcams.com/video/Q3cfNnl-_S4/video.html
czcams.com/video/jmrBZnlaiIg/video.html
finally
way to go!
Hey Thomas, excelent rewiew! Can I ask you if you could check if that car had adaptive dampers, cause from what I've read from other sources the "Adaptive Drive" is avaible with adaptive dampers only, not with standard spring. Thanks, looking foward for the "home" rewiew next year!
the one we had was equipped with the adaptive one
Great job by the reviewer. Can't help but ask, is it better than the E class for driver to road communication and feedback?
seen the whole review ?
Is the Cadillac CT 6 available in Europe? That's a car I'd be very interested your perspective on - sized between 5 and 7, e and s class, intended to compete both. Nice review per usual.
Ihre Videos sind klasse! As we say in German
=)
great video!!!!! keep it up. When is the M5 coming ?
next year
sometimes i put your videos on the background and start working ... i just love hearing you talk ! so you personally you like the bmw 5 more than the e class ?
appreciated man! Good question. Both cars have something, I like the riding more on the 5-Series, but the style in the front and in the interior more with the E-Class. BMW offers fabric seats as standard and that M Package to add fabric/alcantara mix. Mercedes has fabric, full leatherette and AMG microfibre/leatherette mix so also both offer enough leather alternatives. Guess it's about personal taste then. Oh and the optional mega sound system is better with the E. Guess the E43 combines the advantages of the normal E with the ride of a normal 5-Series :) -> czcams.com/video/Q3cfNnl-_S4/video.html
I definitely feel like the F10 generation looks more "aggressive" and sporty...especially in M-Sport trim. Id love to have a M550d Touring.
Perfect review!
always a pleasure.
Thomas, was the 530d you drove on standard suspension or Adaptive drive/variable damper control (as they are called in the UK)? Thanks for the review. Excellent as always.
adaptive, thanks!