Yamaha MD-8 A Great Example of Older Recording Kit: A Recording Session

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  • čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
  • The Yamaha MD-8 came out in 1998, and was the updated model of the four track version, the MD-4. Both machines made use of the Minidisc Data format, introduced in 1993.
    This machine was about £1000 in 1998, a lot of money back then, but you got some good features: three band EQ with swept mid on each channel, two aux sends, two stereo returns and multiple routing options. Moreover, the storage medium was a removable disc, meaning recording space was limited only by the number of discs you bought!
    The MD data discs are still available, not as cheaply any more, but available...
    In this demonstration, I also use a stereo compressor, and a cheap reverb unit, which further augment the sound. Channels 1 and 2 of the MD-8 have XLR inputs with phantom power, and insert points, where compressors, EQs, etc., can be put into the signal chain.
    The good bit about 8 track recording is that limitations of tracks do create a much more thoughtful approach to recording and creating.
    Enjoy and Share!
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Komentáře • 81

  • @kurikokaleidoscope
    @kurikokaleidoscope Před 2 lety +2

    We recorded all of our material on a Yamaha MD8. BEAUTIFUL MACHINE. Merry Christmas.

    • @DanBakerMusic
      @DanBakerMusic  Před 2 lety +1

      I’ve just had a listen to your tunes! Great sound and creativity...
      Merry Christmas to you too!

  • @Gee-no
    @Gee-no Před 2 lety +4

    I use to love recording on my Tascam Portastudio. The sound was so organic. I had everyone coming to my parents house to record (I was 15~16yos) doing metal, pop, rap, and even a trumpet sonata at one point. I didn’t notice how good it sounded until I bought a Boss BR8 and later BR1180CD. You miss the natural compression from the tape. Ahhh….the good ole days.

    • @EgoShredder
      @EgoShredder Před 2 lety +1

      Anyone that has the opportunity to record in a well equipped reel to reel tape studio, should jump at the chance because its an experience unlike anything digital can offer, and I am a fan of digital too.

  • @carel56
    @carel56 Před 2 lety +6

    Great video! I have 3 working MD8 recorders. Bought all second hand. On the first recorder there was an issue with channel 2. The main board was defect due to the phantom power. NOT in the manual, but you should disconnect the phantom power first before (off) taking the XLR pug out. Many MD8 recorders have this issue (only on channel 1 or 2). So I bought a second one. Fortunately with some MD data disks. Put the best parts together to get nr. 1 one right. And it was! Than I felt sorry for the second one being broken. So I bought a third machine wit terminal recorder issues. Switched the main board and got the second machine up and running 100%. And I bought a fourth MD8 recently because it was affordable second hand. Works 100%. Now I am trying to get some stuff recorded. But I find it difficult with the MD8 to get to know all it's potential. The manual is not easy to read. Maybe someone can make a English lingual tutorial one day? There is a Japanese one, but as I don't speak Japanese, that is impossible for me to understand. Thanks for the video an keep up the good work!

    • @PooDotStinkPants
      @PooDotStinkPants Před 2 lety +1

      You sound very skilled with fixing these machines. Our is in really good condition but now has an error 80 and sometimes an error 07 message. It simply won't read the disks , even one that was brand new. Any suggestions on how to fix?

    • @carel56
      @carel56 Před 2 lety

      @@PooDotStinkPants Dear PDSP, I have one machine that also gives error 7. I think the problem is in the recorder itself. Impossible to repair, for me anyway. It may be caused by the laser losing power over time. I have an other Sharp MD recorder with the similar problem, I solved that by buying an extra machine with another problem. Gambling the recorder would be OK. So I combines 2 machines with faults into one good working machine. There are MD-8 's available that have defects. Cheap to buy. Due to the way it is build, swapping components is not difficult.. That could solve the problem.

  • @jeanroy8283
    @jeanroy8283 Před rokem +2

    Wow, you are very talented Dan, love that style and beat! Guitars and voice sound really, really good!

  • @josephbusuttil410
    @josephbusuttil410 Před rokem +2

    Great stuff mate, I have 2 of these units and a SONY MDM-X4 4 Track ....
    I'm a massive fan of the old MiniDisk tech.
    I totally agree with you on the quality of the Sound Fidelity of these units.
    Keep up the great work, it's worth subscribing to your channel just for the Nostalgic Value
    ... Greetings all the way from Joe in Tasmania / Australia

  • @subculture-records
    @subculture-records Před 7 měsíci

    Old school gear rocks. We use 4 Fostex D80s, providing 32 channel recording, and they are still highly usable multitrack recorders. Great vid.

  • @bravinneff7932
    @bravinneff7932 Před 2 lety +3

    Damn, you went from a decent but kind of normal video to excellent once you started singing. Awesome voice!

    • @DanBakerMusic
      @DanBakerMusic  Před 2 lety

      Aw cheers Bravin! Glad you enjoyed the video...

  • @notchillustgrhymecity5904

    Hey could you do more videos on this unit like showing editing parameters ex. Bouncing, arrangement of song and moving them around ect . Show the Md8 screen too thanks King great video too

  • @TheHomeRecordingChannel
    @TheHomeRecordingChannel Před měsícem

    Hi Dan, great video and very informative. I recently picked up a Tascam 2488mk1 for free from a guy who couldn't operate it. As you will know it's the 24 track model, and it's a beast of a machine. I also still use my little Fostex x-30 4 track cassette recorder which sounds great too. Happy recording my friend. Paul.

  • @daviator4720
    @daviator4720 Před 2 lety +2

    I still love my MD8... Although I have a BR600, and a Roland 880EX I find the menu driven features take the creativity out for me... Nothing like an analogue board on the MD8 twist at turn just a bit on the fly. The other 2 great machines with built in effects. The MD8 is set up with Boss effects pedals for effects, generally just reverb and maybe a guitar effect like chorus. So when the I do scratch recordings, its usually on the BR600 with the on board mics and one guitar input, then learn the song and record it on the MD8. I bounce down to stereo out to a Zoom H2n recorder... Then the SD Card into the Mac for export to Blog, FB or whatever. I no longer use the CD recorder at all. I loved you demo!

    • @PooDotStinkPants
      @PooDotStinkPants Před 2 lety +2

      Do you know if connecting a Yamaha MD8 to an Apple Mac via a Sonic Port VX would work to transfer the music to either CD burn or digital files? Not tech savvy here, all we want to do is get the music from the disks. Thank in advance for any help provided.

  • @paulduff2860
    @paulduff2860 Před 2 lety +1

    Still have my BR900 that I use often, great little recorder 👍

  • @Hakimworldwide
    @Hakimworldwide Před rokem

    Smooth vocals man, thanks for the walkthrough and inspiration!

  • @gardenave2531
    @gardenave2531 Před rokem

    I love the limitations of obsolete tech! Just got an Otari MX5050 SHD 8-tracker. I wanna set it up just like you have.. basic compression and fx. Fun!

  • @alanfbrookes9771
    @alanfbrookes9771 Před rokem +1

    The MD8 is a magnificent machine. I have seven of them. I only have two gripes, firstly that they won't take the recent Minidisks, which could give them longer recording capability, and secondly that they were designed before USB ports became available. But hey, what wouldn't I have given for one of these back in the 50s when I was recording on reel-to-reel ?

    • @DanBakerMusic
      @DanBakerMusic  Před rokem +1

      Totally - I think these machines are great. It’s just such a shame that tech races on and leaves them with niggles...

  • @andykenny5674
    @andykenny5674 Před 2 lety +3

    Yep - still using my Boss BR-8 and BR-80. No latency.
    I then pipe those tracks across into GarageBand. Sounds absolutely fine 😃

    • @KennyBobo125
      @KennyBobo125 Před 2 lety +2

      Hi, I would be interested on what type of tracks you export to GarageBand, also what type of interface do you use? Many thanks

    • @andykenny5674
      @andykenny5674 Před 2 lety +2

      @@KennyBobo125 Hello mate!
      There’s probably a quicker and more high tech way of doing it, but I just record onto the old gear with all the effects and stuff that sounds good, then create a mono or stereo instrument track, connect the old gear to the interface and record it onto GarageBand in real time. Then I snap it into place on the grid and tart it up if needs be. I’m really REALLY old school, but it works for me.
      My very limited brainpower just can’t cope with any sort of latency when I’m recording, hence doing it mostly on the old 8 tracks then putting it onto the daw for the big track count and editing.

    • @andykenny5674
      @andykenny5674 Před 2 lety +2

      Sorry, I use an old Apogee Duet as an interface, but I’m sure any reasonable interface would work just as well.

    • @KennyBobo125
      @KennyBobo125 Před 2 lety +2

      Hi Andy, thanks very much for getting back so quickly . I am definitely going to make more of an effort to use my old gear for the basic recording. You provided some useful info cheers , Ken

    • @Gee-no
      @Gee-no Před 2 lety +1

      I had a BR8. While it was okay the BR1180CD I got a little later was really not bad. Tons of Boss effects and mic sims. Decent compressor effects.Drum machine built in on its own stereo track. Plus a built in CD burner. Oh ~ and a mastering track and mastering effects. Really cool for the time.

  • @truthfinder4973
    @truthfinder4973 Před rokem

    Im young only 52 set me up with a package so i can see old teck works lol !nothing wrong with this at all i love it.

  • @StarBoyJonesProds
    @StarBoyJonesProds Před 2 lety +2

    Wow, great video. Have you ever considered reviewing the Yamaha aw-44 series or the Korg D16 and D32 series? This was great stuff.

  • @basicbluesjones
    @basicbluesjones Před rokem

    excellent Dan,thank you

  • @ernieflanaganstingraybassm1463

    great demo sir

  • @Will-hr1qq
    @Will-hr1qq Před 2 lety +1

    great music!

  • @frenchkiss2102
    @frenchkiss2102 Před 8 měsíci

    Great song, thanxs

  • @daddydanny5588
    @daddydanny5588 Před 2 lety

    wow wow awesome . ive got korg D8 .. still using it with my maudio pci card :)

  • @drnocka-rocksteady
    @drnocka-rocksteady Před 19 dny

    I had the 4. And i bet i can make a decent albums with that and a computer.

  • @titmusspaultpaul5
    @titmusspaultpaul5 Před rokem

    Love these videos where you use older stand alone recorders. Can you show a video where you master in a PC DAW? Just wondering how good you can get a song... if its as good as just recording on a PC DAW.... thanks.

  • @stilettos9
    @stilettos9 Před 2 lety

    As you know, i still have mine, and its been brilliant, recorded 3 albums with it,plus lots of demos. Its quicker and easier to use than most computer systems, and teaches the value of being able to actually produce music, rather than copy and paste it. Ive only not used mine for 6 years cos ive no outlet for my composisions anymore, but its all still plumbed in with the gear exactly like you have here!

  • @EgoShredder
    @EgoShredder Před 2 lety

    I chose the Fostex DMT8 v2 (not the VL) over the other rival brand models, because of the uncompressed waveform audio. Also the operation was closer to using tape technology but coupled with modern editing and sync methods. The Yamaha had excellent features but audio compression meant track bouncing was undesirable, and the non-bounced sound was already thin and harsh in the usual compressed way.

    • @DanBakerMusic
      @DanBakerMusic  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes - it was a toss-up between facilities and tech. I too had a DMT-8 as I had external effects and a desk..

  • @PooDotStinkPants
    @PooDotStinkPants Před 2 lety +1

    Do you know if connecting a Yamaha MD8 to an Apple Mac via a Sonic Port VX would work to transfer the music to either CD burn or digital files? Not tech savvy here, all we want to do is get the music from the disks. Thank in advance for any help provided.

  • @odarquehunnett200
    @odarquehunnett200 Před 2 lety

    The only point of contention I have is that minidiscs disappeared from the US market eons ago, to my dismay because I loved recording music onto them as well, but if you have enough serviceable discs at your disposal, you can make a huge case for having one of these instead of going the DAW route. Sidenote: I saw someone in the comments talking about the Boss BR-8; I still have mine but am missing over half the zip discs I used in my projects. 😢

    • @DanBakerMusic
      @DanBakerMusic  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes and there are also quite of lot of MD-8s on eBay for “parts only”. Basically drive failures. I’ve still got some ZIP discs somewhere for my EMU sampler...!

  • @bileshake
    @bileshake Před rokem

    I have one of these and love it. I’m challenging myself to do a whole recording on it. Maybe even release it on cassette.

    • @DanBakerMusic
      @DanBakerMusic  Před rokem

      Nice! Cassettes are trying to make a comeback....

    • @manmaas
      @manmaas Před 5 měsíci

      Won't happen!

  • @travisthibodaux7633
    @travisthibodaux7633 Před rokem

    Are the MiniDisc multitrack cassettes still available for purchase? This would be a great fresh way to come up with new ideas when needed.. Thanks!!!

    • @DanBakerMusic
      @DanBakerMusic  Před rokem

      You’ll have a job finding them but they can be found. Expensive though!

    • @manmaas
      @manmaas Před 5 měsíci

      You can pick them up off eBay but usually from Japan so not cheap with postage.

  • @Jenya-zc9zm
    @Jenya-zc9zm Před rokem

    Привет ! Для любого технаря поковыряться в этой штуке будет полезно ! Собираюсь купить такую.....Звук не хуже чем на подобных цифровых портастудий....

  • @KennyBobo125
    @KennyBobo125 Před 2 lety

    Another inspiring video Dan. I have a Zoom Mrs1608 HD recorder. Just trying to figure out the best to connect up and export files to GarageBand.

    • @PooDotStinkPants
      @PooDotStinkPants Před 2 lety +1

      Lol we are having the same issue but with the MD8. No idea how to export the files from MD disks to Garageband. Did you find a solution?

    • @joelpoitras6226
      @joelpoitras6226 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I have an MRS1608 also.
      Great machine with everything you'll ever need. My only problem is that i never bought the optional usb card at the time. The only place is an ebay ultra expensive japan import. The only way to get my music out is through the L&R RCA outs into an interface, then into a PC or burn it onto a CD. But the machine itself is probably the peak of all HD recorders. Amp sims, built-in playable drum machine with velocity pads, steel chassis, made in Japan. All of zoom's later models seem like down grades.

  • @ERIC-65
    @ERIC-65 Před 2 lety

    Just tell me how they were able to fit 32 tracks onto a Micro-Sd card ! ( TASCAM DP 32 SD )

  • @noctgale
    @noctgale Před 7 měsíci

    These only take md data disks right? I was just gifted one and was disappointed to see i can only record two tracks on regular md. Also how do you connect this to pc?

    • @DanBakerMusic
      @DanBakerMusic  Před 7 měsíci

      Yes it’ll accept both disks, but standard MDs have a different format so will only support two track recording. There isn’t a link to PC unfortuately, so you’d have to do either two channels at a time into a stereo sound card, or if you have an eight channel interface, you could transfer all at once in real time…

  • @joaomanoelfontaolongo427

    Hi Dan, Happy new year, how are you?
    I've done a lot of work with the MD4 Yamaha. It was very practical. I have hundreds of songs recorded most of my own. But more than 15 years ago it broke and everything I had done is lost. I'm looking for one to buy, the idea is to save these musics transferring these files to a computer. A question, if you can answer. I have the MD4 and I'm trying to buy an MD8. , both use the same minidisc?. Do you know the difference between MD4 and MD4S?. Thanks in advance

    • @DanBakerMusic
      @DanBakerMusic  Před rokem

      Hi there-I di believe the MD-4 and 8 use the same 140MB Datadisc. If you’ve got four track recordings, the MD-8 will recognise this and show the first four tracks only. Whether the MD-8 will reformat to allow an additional four I don’t know, but it would certainly be worth another machine to rescue your recordings.

    • @joaomanoelfontaolongo427
      @joaomanoelfontaolongo427 Před rokem

      @@DanBakerMusic Thank you friend

  • @animalslostandfoundinkentl8448

    I have a serious issue at the moment. Over 20 years ago I recorded my songs that I wrote on an 8 track minidisc mixer recorder. It's taken me 20 years to finally get it back off a family member. And now I don't have anything to play it on or to try and digitalize it. Is this something you could help with at all? I'm beyond frustrated as I spent money on players and now after googling I've realised that it won't play and I get error because its on a data format 😭

    • @PooDotStinkPants
      @PooDotStinkPants Před 2 lety +1

      Sounds like you have the same problem as us. Are you getting an error 80 or error 07 message which prevents the disks from being played? It's annoying to have the disks but no way to play them/ transfer onto another medium.

    • @animalslostandfoundinkentl8448
      @animalslostandfoundinkentl8448 Před 2 lety +1

      @@PooDotStinkPants I think my problem is my minidisc was recorded on a mini disk recorder so need to source one of those 😭

    • @PooDotStinkPants
      @PooDotStinkPants Před 2 lety +1

      @@animalslostandfoundinkentl8448 yes I think it's the same for us, it looks like we have to buy the actual device that can play the disks, thanks for replying and good luck, let us know if you have any success.

  • @manmaas
    @manmaas Před 5 měsíci

    Does anyone know if it's possible to rack mount one of these due to limited space?

    • @DanBakerMusic
      @DanBakerMusic  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I have a feeling it’s slightly wider than the standard 19”

    • @manmaas
      @manmaas Před 4 měsíci

      @@DanBakerMusic You're right it's a shade wider. Will have to figure something else out!

  • @felpa9742
    @felpa9742 Před rokem

    Hey! quick question, how could one transfer the tracks form the MD8 to a cpu for mastering?

    • @DanBakerMusic
      @DanBakerMusic  Před rokem

      I think unfortunately one cannot do this. You have to play the mix back onto a computer, track by track. If you only have a two channel interface, one trick is to (and if there is enough recording time at the beginning of the song on the MD), is to set all tracks into record, and record a single clap. This will then allow you to line up the tracks on the computer DAW. I had to do that once with someone’s four track cassette, and it worked!

  • @heikole68
    @heikole68 Před 2 lety

    Hi. My MD8 broke years ago, but I still have the data discs with my songs. Does anybody know how to save the data on pc and maybe use it in a DAW?

    • @DanBakerMusic
      @DanBakerMusic  Před 2 lety +1

      Regrettably you’d need an MD8 to rescue what’s on disc. Helpfully though, as the MD8 has individual outs, you could theoretically record all at once (assuming 8 inputs on audio interface) to DAW.
      I’d do it for you but the MD8 in this video now belongs to someone else...

    • @PooDotStinkPants
      @PooDotStinkPants Před 2 lety +1

      Oh dear, looks like you have the same problem as us, did you find a solution?

  • @gwugluud
    @gwugluud Před 2 lety

    One thing about hardware multi tracks is no latency.