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I like how every argument against One Piece is that it isn't finished yet and every argument for DBZ is that it's been around for along time.
Edit: I have started a war 💀
Dragon Ball Z is peak during it's time.
But they're a selective few Shonen manga/anime series (new gen) that are better than it...
Those series have less chapters/episodes than DBZ.
One piece and DBZ stay the bar other Shounen are compared to constantly. Can't be coincidence.
DB never gonna finish
@@CrazyAce777777set and stay
"Dragon Ball has been around for a long time. It's iconic."
"One Piece has been around for a long time. It's dragging."
The bias is crazy 🙄
I think one piece should’ve won the peaks category, because even though it’s not over it has had some of the highest peaks in all of anime.
Im copy and pasting my comment on ones like yours:
peak is a climax. By saying OP arc peaks are better than FB peak, you are effectively saying that a SINGLE. OP. ARC, WAS SOMEHOW BETTER THAN THE ENTIRETY OF THE FB SERIES. What the lady was trying to say about peaks is that a peak is the climax of a story in plot. You have exposition, rising action, CLIMAX, falling action, and resolution. One Piece hasn’t even reached its peak yet as an entire story. We are CLOSE, but not yet. Calling ARCS such as Arlong, King, Marineford PEAK isn’t really the term that should be used. They were great MOMENTS, but not the PEAK of the show. Peaks in different arcs aren’t peaks. They are just the rising action to the actual peak, the climax. By these standards, it is no wonder FB won. It has an actual peak solely due to the fact it is a concluded story. You cant compare an incomplete story, much less a single arc, to the entirety of the other, COMPLETED series
One arc from one piece has higher peaks than the entirety of FMA.
Water 7/Enies Lobby alone> FMA
@@Karmanara the category was plural, ‘Peaks’ not a singular peak
@@wtprodz1528 I understand that, but that was either because they don’t know what a peak is, or they meant greatest moments.
@@Karmanara if they were really talking about greatest moments, then one piece beats FMA
The One Piece slander was unreal in the consistency match. You can argue all you want but when a show can bring sidecast back 300 episodes later and make it make sense in the story there isn’t even anything to compare it with when comes to consistency. Nobody except Oda can pull this off and make the hype real every time again and again
Like they said,fmb,it just keeps going up up up down up up down up however one piece goes up then down then up then down then down then up then down
@@Gavienjky you talking about a different matchup and category bruh did you read my comment? If yes…. Poor judgement
@@joshuadworschak8914 ah fuck I just realised 😂😂😂 I was talking about the peaks 😂😂
@@Gavienjky there you got a point. No way any anime of those brackets better than fmab with peaks, you just gotta love the payoffs 😁
But you also have to understand one piece has issues keeping quality and pacing consistent. So it really just equals out.
Luffy lost everything he valued at Sabaody and MarineFord but he worked on his past and came through. That's just ONE peak moment of One Piece that is similar to the whole story of FMAB.
they literally just got separated away. he never lost them. the only thing i can think of that luffy has lost, is his brother. that’s all. whereas in naruto.. do i even gotta talk ?
@@dandanyellow in the moment nobody knows kuma´s powers when i see i just said (wait wth)
@@dandanyellow get your bitchas shitty naruto argument out of here, I love certain parts of naruto and one of my favorite characters, Jiraiya, did die, so I understand loss, but when your crew has just been separated, your brother dies in front of your eyes, you see death all around you, and fatally wounded, you lose sight of everything, my boy Jimbe had to beat Luffy to a pulp for him to understand he didn't lose everything also its your POV that he never lost his crew, Luffy thought they are all gone, because a mysterious character with one of the most OP devil fruits shows up and zips everyone from reality is fucking horrifying
@@dandanyellowput yourselves in Luffy situation, he had no idea if his crew was even alive still at the time
They were dead, he always fighted anyone and never surrender but when kizaru appeared with kuma he said to just run, you dont know how that feels, he declared war towards the world goverment and never backed down, for him to have said they cant win is heart breaking. Then kuma wiping out all of the crew and the desperate grasp of nico robin towards luffy, the girl he saved and he made want to live just disappered is destroying. He was destroyed, he couldnt do anything, he was hopeless. They seemed dead. This moment at its time was destroying, Luffy was able of doing anything but he was just hopeless, he couldnt harm kuma, and no matter how much he tried to distract him, he evaded him. Then him saving Ace, it seemed like the war was over, they had rescuded ace, but Akainu tried killing luffy and ace sacrificed himself for luffy to achieve his goal. Ace dead didnt hurt cause we knew him, it hurt because of how it impacted Luffy. Luffy always has a smile on his face but at that moment he was completely destroyed. His brother had died@@dandanyellow
One piece losing peaks is wild imo. Here’s a list of crazy ass moments:
Shanks loses his arm
Zoro vs mihawk
Arlong park walk
Dr.Hiriluk’s speech
“I needed a light”
“I want to live”
“Sogeking… shoot down that flag”
Brook knowing laboon
“Nothing happened”
Aokiji’s introduction
Luffy punches a celestial dragon
Kuma disbands the strawhats
Basically all of marineford
And that’s only pre timeskip
Exactly
A lot happing in manga also
Good times man🥲
Thank you, but they mickey out by saying "one piece isn't finished yet." That shit so weak cause time and time again oda delivers with banger after banger after banger
@@damarionthomas701 Very true I can barely remember any moments from FMA except the final fight honestly One Piece I can list off atleast 10 off the top of my head and I watch the anime one time like 10 years ago around the time I watched FMAB lol
love the context, the one piece hate is crazyyyy though. Imagine you talk to a 90 year old person and you ask them about the peak of their life... they gonna have a bunch. Brotherhood just didnt last long enough to have as many peaks as one piece. One piece the GOAT
One piece hate????? One piece is the most protected series ever.
There isn’t a single anime/manga that’s been protected as much as one piece ever.
@@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou bro this has to be Gabe’s Ult account I swear their was obvious bias going on gabe for one shouldn’t even have been talking during some of the debates yet he was and he was already picking sides before it started 😂
@@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Also I don’t even know what your talking about when the original comment said “hate” I think they were talking about in this video, common sense is lacking with you…
FAX
@@gamigun280 if I was gabe then I would have destroyed op in this video.
Anyways, while gabe is probably biased, so we’re everyone else including most people on this channel.
There’s bound to be some opposition when there’s so many people giving their opinions.
One Piece may be unfinished, but it has multiple peaks. Each story arc is a self-contained narrative deserving recognition. The Marineford arc, for example, has a clear beginning, middle, and end, with a central conflict, a daring rescue mission, and a significant concluding event. These arcs, from Enies Lobby to Skypiea, provide closure, character development, and unique conflicts. While determining peaks is subjective, One Piece's ongoing nature allows for more to come. Nonetheless, its individual arcs hold their own against other anime, contributing to the larger narrative and offering compelling storytelling. It's a remarkable addition to any top anime list.
Thank you very much for writing this comment, I was think the exact same thing as you. When you talk about peaks in OP you should look at the arcs as a story for itself that connects an even bigger story, for example: Enies lobby had a beginning and end and has basically a story for itself, so when you look at the peak you should think of it as the peak of Enies Lobby (basically a it’s own story) and not a peak for the whole show.
The funny thing about one piece is that every arc has its peaks and its different for every person
Maybe if you do this again you could have a losers bracket, for people who had bad pulls to have a chance to get back in the competition.
Oooh this is a good idea
Big Brain idea 🤩
@@ShonenShowdown would love to see a few judges that don’t have a dog in the fight and are there just to vote on who continues.
I hate that one guy that constantly says one piece is mid , and the biggest point is that he hasn't watched it
@@arushdixit2792 nah he was mad funny, but lowkey he interupting people like crazy. Especially the cyberpunk girl.
Honestly, the girl defending FMAB was the better debater. The dubs she managed to pull against OP and DBZ are admirable. Agreed with Shonen, OP would've won if it wasn't for her skills. Luffy could've definitely took Goku in the Protagonist category.
Op supposed to win how can you say the show lose because it's not finished
seemed like he just didnt want to argue imo
Nah goku is better written
@@Cynical_Citizenz goku is better written? Lmao
@@Shiki265 than luffy? Yes.
never knew someone's "favorite" anime of all time could be cyberpunk 💀
😂😂
Couldn't be me
I mean if people can have dbz as their favorite anything is possible, you just have to be blind enough
@@Slender_neet whats wrong w dbz
@@mrstealyogril9426 nothing really, but nothing about it is great neither. It's just an average anime that got pushed up cause of "nostalgia" and dbz fans refuse to accept it
All ik is her points are great, but oda makes mini stories within his arcs that do peak the way she was bringing it up, a whole built up story with a climax, and those peaks are arguably better than fmas
Goku doesn't have flaws? Seriously? I can tell they both have only seen the dub that made Goku a righteous hero who is all about doing the right thing, shows mercy etc. But that's not who Goku is. Goku is a martial artist and a saiyan who wants to challenge and push himself as much as he can even though it might be the wrong thing to do. That's literally the reason why he spared Vegeta and didn't stop Dr Gero from creating the androids.
That's what I'm saying
A lot of people don’t understand the depth of goku and I can see why but one thing I love about goku is that he constantly battle his nature vs nurture
@@kaienglish271 Blame the english dub for that
You’re both wrong. Dub goku isn’t righteous, you can hardly compare him to Superman or most western super hero’s. Comparing goku to Superman is a disservice to both goku and Superman.
Goku is in deed flawed but he’s not a psychopath either.
He spared vegeta for another fight but he fought vegeta because he genuinely wanted to protect the earth.
Goku also wanted to spare the androids because he didn’t think it was right to kill them for something they didn’t do.
The choice itself is wrong but the intention is good.
Goku is someoke with good intentions and a very basic naive sense of justice but makes mistakes regardless.
Goku is righteous in the sense that he’s saved millions of not billions of lives multiple times over for selfless reasons most of the time.
He’s still a flawed individual who’s limited by his biology and earth background.
This theme is highlighted by goku black who’s also biologically flawed and hindered by saiyan flesh compared to the more calculated zamasu.
Nonetheless the video does a horrible job at understanding goku. If you were to go by stereotypes then yes goku is this simple which you can only get if you payed no attention at all to things in the show.
@@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou the Senzu Bean sh*t was bad and no matter what you want to do to defend it, it was just terrible horrible writing to make the arc longer.
Same with Vegeta sparring Cell just to give him room to absorb 18 all done to make the plot longer and only might be considered working due to Goku simple desire to fight strong opponents and Vegeta own arrogance to prove he is better
Goku not finishing of Frieza after he killed of Krillin was just straight up dumb
Also I won't really consider Goku a deep character he cares for his family and is willing to fight for it..he missed from both of his kids life yeah I consider that to be a flaw.
He has a pure soul and I get that but he made too many dumb decisions for me to consider him deep and not some surface level plot protagonist
I’ll be honest. I would give peaks to One Piece. One piece’s one of the pillar’s it’s peaks. They are so good that it gives you chill while watching it.
Agree. Op only lost because of the technicality of the term - peak i.e. Highest point getting start to end. The girl really played well.
@@me94011 yeah plus rob could have just couterd it with we can also define peaks as b best moments of every arc or some shitt and could have argumented better ut he stayed quite and lost ,the girl def was the best debatter
most of the debater are one piece hater. u can see it. especially that annoying dbz debater
@@ismailkhlil5853yessss 😂😂
@@ismailkhlil5853 That DBZ guy was so obnoxious. He needed to shut when it wasn’t his turn.
Truer words have never been said "you gotta skip the first 6 minutes of each one piece episode" lol that had me dying.
Sadly Toei ruined One Piece for a long time.
As someone who has been watching anime since the mid-90s, I have seen many come and go and some stay and leave their mark. That being said for those of you who are younger or don’t venture into out of the mainstream, please watch Samurai Champloo. Easily the greatest show I have ever watched. The tight knit strong cast with varying personalities, humor mixed with dark themes, best soundtrack to an anime, good conclusion, romance, revenge and everything you could hope for. And it’s done in less than 30 episodes. It changed my life
i have watched samurai champloo and its one of my favourite animes but one piece clears it so easily holy shit
code geass is my 2nd fav behind one piece, its similar to aot in the aspect of if you don't listen to the story you're gonna get confused but yeah if u watch code geass to its fullest, its definitely gonna be on your fav anime list
@@SpaaceNathan Code geass is also my second favourite behind one piece lmao
I love Samurai Champloo too, great series albeit lackluster ending, but yeah One Piece clears it easy.
The category was peakS not singular peak. FMAB may have the higher peak for now with its ending. but One Piece just has too many peaks for it to compete. Each arc has so many peaks on their own. And I don't know what that one guy was saying about One Piece not building on itself. Every Arc is built up by everything that has come before. So much setup and so much pay off. But I'm not mad about it. We all know that once One Piece ends it will be the undisputed GOAT. FMAB and Code Geass are probably also in my top 5 tbh
Yeah but thats not even a peak. A peak is the climax. They never said anything about the SPECIFIC BIG MOMENTS that happen in an arc.
Im copy and pasting my comment on ones like yours:
peak is a climax. By saying OP arc peaks are better than FB peak, you are effectively saying that a SINGLE. OP. ARC, WAS SOMEHOW BETTER THAN THE ENTIRETY OF THE FB SERIES. What the lady was trying to say about peaks is that a peak is the climax of a story in plot. You have exposition, rising action, CLIMAX, falling action, and resolution. One Piece hasn’t even reached its peak yet as an entire story. We are CLOSE, but not yet. Calling ARCS such as Arlong, King, Marineford PEAK isn’t really the term that should be used. They were great MOMENTS, but not the PEAK of the show. Peaks in different arcs aren’t peaks. They are just the rising action to the actual peak, the climax. By these standards, it is no wonder FB won. It has an actual peak solely due to the fact it is a concluded story. You cant compare an incomplete story, much less a single arc, to the entirety of the other, COMPLETED series
@@Karmanara buddy it’s peaks and op has way more peaks
@@Karmanara yes your right but if we go by this sense then doesn't that means that an anime like demon slayer wins against OP "which obviously ain't never gonna happen" cuz demon slayer has a climax but one piece is yet tp reach its climax? Tho you can argue thta just a single peak arc of OP was better then the whole demon slayer cuz that's the only way OP can win
@@HunY_BuNwhat? How does that even make sense? One piece hasn’t finished but that certainly does not mean it hasn’t had peaks lmao you really believe that in over 1000 episodes there’s been no peaks?????? Wtf open your eyes and then for u to say demon slayer has more peaks than One piece damn that is beyond stupid. A story doesn’t have to be finished to it to have a peak lol
@@Karmanarasaw ur comments twice still doesnt make sense lol, u r just hurt that OP has so many peaks better than FB i mean EVERY ARC HAS ITS OWN STORY (has many diff character as the main focus) which means every arcs is not just building up action for the main story (in the context of connecting into the main goals searching for ONE PIECE) BUT every arcs WITHIN THE STORIES has its own connection to the main story. Simply put EVERY ARCS OR ISLAND HAS ITS OWN STORIES TO TELL AND PEAKS but still connected to the main one. OP is not one main full story like other shonen, OP is an ADVENTURES GENRE
Haven't even finished the video, but this is a common shonen showdown W
Not for OP
Worst takes of all time
@@arushdixit2792 honestly i would argue more that some anime lost due to luck of the draw, it is not all just bad takes
A single saga in one piece(water 7) is literally perfection from start to finish, tell me a moment where it falls off :)
When they were on the train to get to Enies Lobby
Opening, endings, Flashbacks, Flashbacks....
One Piece should've won in peaks category simply because it reaches its peak at the end of almost every arc. I love FMAB but I dont think I've gotten so much invested in the characters emotionally as compared to the character depth and development we have in one piece and that makes these characters much more close to heart and anything bad happening to them hurt like hell and Oda even a made us cry over a piece of wood and if this doesn't define peak then nothing else will.
This is literally the best rivaly in whole fiction...Rob vs Gabe.
There is no better rivaly than this imo
List of One Piece peaks:-
1) Nami asks Luffy to save her
2)Mihawk first appearance
3)Mihawk vs Zoro and Zoro's promise to never lose again
4)Laugh Tale being mentioned
5)Will of D being mentioned in Drum Island Arc
6)Poneglyphs and Ancient Weapons in Alabasta
7)Sky Island Reveal and Luffy beating Belamy
8) Ancient weapon Poseidon being mentioned at Sky Island
9)Ussop leaving the crew
10)Robin's 'I want to live'
11)Gear Second
12)Gear Third
13)Sanji's Diable Jambe
14) Zoro's Ashura
15)Straw Hats declaring war against the World Government
16)Farewell to Going Merry
17)Ace vs Black Beard
18) Shanks and White Beard Splitting the heavens
19)Zoro vs Riyuma
20)Zoro's nothing happened moment
21)The Worst Generation's first appearance
22)Luffy punching Charlos
23) Rayleigh's first appearance
24)Luffy losing his life span in Impel Down
25)Impel Down Escape
26)Bon-chan's sacrifice
27)White Beard's Tremor Tremor Fruit power reveal
28)Marineford War Battles (WB vs Akainu, Luffy's conqueror's Haki, etc)
29)White beard's death
30)Black Beard taking White Beard's DF
31)Ace dies 🍩
32)Shanks arrives at Marineford
33)The "THE ONE PIECE IS REAL" moment
34)The Time Skip
35)Shirahoshi is Poseidon.
36) Joy Boy reveal
37)The voice of All things
38) Doflamingo's past
39)Law's past
40)Luffy vs Doflamingo
41)Sabo's first appearance
42)Gear Fourth
43) Ussop uses Observation Haki
44) Lode Poneglyphs reveal
45) The Raizo Dono moment
46)The Ninja-Pirate-Mink-Samurai Alliance
47)Sanji's past
48) Straw hats get there 2nd Lode Poneglyphs
49)Gear Fourth :Tank Man and Gear Fourth: Snake Man
50) Luffy awakens advanced Observation Haki
51) Imu revealed
52)God Valley's story
53) Rock D Xebec
54)Zoro gets Enma
55) Wano past
56) Oden Origin
57) Zoro gets Conquerors Haki
58) Sanji awakens his Germa 66 powers
59)Sanji uses Ifrit Jambe
60)Zoro vs King
61)Sanji vs Queen
62) Luffy learns Ryuo
63) Gear 5
64) Luffy uses advanced Conquerors Haki
66) Zunesha comes to Wano
67) Luffy 's real dream being hinted at
68) Law and Kid vs Big Mom
69)Luffy Becomes a Yonko
70)Buggy becomes a Yonko
71)Vegapunk revealed
72) Rob Luchi vs Gear 5
73) Devil Fruit origin
74) Seraphim Introduced
75)Lulusia is wiped out
76)Jaguar D Saul is alive
77)The man marked by flames is hinted
78)Name of one of the Five elders is revealed (Saint Jay Garcia Saturn)
79)Shanks vs Kid Pirates
80) Kid Pirates are no more
81)Heart Pirates vs Black Beard Pirates
82)Imu saying "Lily"
83)Cobra's death
84)The revolutionary army declares war on the World Nobels
85)The Holy Knights reveal
86)Shanks talking with the five elders.
87)Ohara Buster call
88)Pluton is in Wano
89)Straw Hat Grand fleet is formed
90) All BOUNTY reveals
91) Sun God Nika is mentioned by Who's who
92) Green Bull's first appearance
93)Cobra is dead
94) Vivi and Wappol are with Big News Morgan
95) Wappol knows something about the World Government
96) Sabo saw Imu in the Empty throne
97)Bonney is Kumar's Daughter
98)Roger is Ace's father
99)Dragon in Luffy 's father
100)Garp is luffy 's grandpa
101) CP0 reveal
Edit:-
102)Nightmare Luffy
If I have missed any , feel free to mention the peak moments
luffy walking past big mom and kaido, then one shotting kaido to the ground with his gomu gomu no red roc
the walk to frankys house
the walk to arlong park
vegapunk explaining luffys df
kuma wiping out all of the straw hats at shabondy and luffy breaking down
luffy one shotting a pacifists in returb to shabondy
most definitely more
@@sizzle101 yeah 👍, how can one piece loose in a battle of peaks , that is insane
@@swastikrout959 fr
peak is a climax. By saying OP arc peaks are better than FB peak, you are effectively saying that a SINGLE. OP. ARC, WAS SOMEHOW BETTER THAN THE ENTIRETY OF THE FB SERIES. What the lady was trying to say about peaks is that a peak is the climax of a story in plot. You have exposition, rising action, CLIMAX, falling action, and resolution. One Piece hasn’t even reached its peak yet as an entire story. We are CLOSE, but not yet. Calling ARCS such as Arlong, King, Marineford PEAK isn’t really the term that should be used. They were great MOMENTS, but not the PEAK of the show. Peaks in different arcs aren’t peaks. They are just the rising action to the actual peak, the climax. By these standards, it is no wonder FB won. It has an actual peak solely due to the fact it is a concluded story. You cant compare an incomplete story, much less a single arc, to the entirety of the other, COMPLETED series
@@Karmanara if thats what a peak is then the argument was baseless. Peak means when a series was at its greatest. Peak doesn't mean climax, don't believe me search for the true meaning of peak , it will always define it as maximum of something. The people in the video and you don't understand what peak is , you made up a defination.
respect to the one piece dude, he knew a lot more peak op moments, but only mentioned the ones that weren't huge spoilers, but if he had, you would've smacked fmab like actually. One piece is the definition of peak anime
I just have to say I have been watching every video this group has put out that I can find, on whatever channel uploads it. I hope you guys keep making content together and I hope some of the people who don't post their own solo videos start, really fun group of people to watch.
The look of pure disappointment when one piece lost 💀
15:28 I like how we all collectively knew where that was going.
Lol
No, I can argue with DBZ fights
@@KevDu67bet state ur argument
@@scarlessyt The fights of Dragon Ball have no weight. We're not scared for the character's life because we know they'll get revived by the Dragon Balls. Plus they look exactly the same. Punching, kicking, ki blast. And it's even worst in Dragon Ball Super that the show is just about flashy fights. Like they ignore the adventure aspect from the OG Dragon Ball. So the fight goes like this, a random comes out from nowhere, Goku beats him and that's it.
@@KevDu67 what are u talking about all throughout the saiyan saga and namek the fights felt like there were stakes they had amazing choreography and u have the animation along with it and then you have fights like Goku vs Freeza or Gohan vs cell with top tier writing to go with it sure they don’t use martial arts as much as in og db and they do replay some scenes but u cant deny that the fights are good but I can’t defend what u said about super since u are right about that
What she described for FMAB about the peak of getting his brothers body back is basically her describing impel Down and marineford Luffy trying to save his brother even tho it’s not the same ending it’s the same story.. trying to do everything and anything to save your brother
In Fullmetal Alchemist, there were serious risks with characters you had come to love being in constant danger, the characters in the war of the best were people we barely knew, there were only three deaths in the whole Arc, the threat wasn't as present in Marine Ford, meanwhile FMAB shows real world problems like what happened with Rose, and is also able to show more threats like how the humonculi are portrayed throughout the show, how people get manipulated by them, and that anyone we have gotten to know can die at any, meanwhile majority of the people in MarineFord where really strong and had very little chance of dying except Ace, Oars JR. and Whitebeard.
@@Rob_Lucci_well bc one piece origanlly never show anyone dying or death as the main focus or threath but that doesnt mean OP is not showing how dark the world is and that makes OP so great
@@Rob_Lucci_ In the end, which main characters from FMAB died?
@@zxcvb3772 No main Characters, but there were several near death instances for them, but a lot of side characters died.
brainless comment
Amazing video man, you should do this more often if possible
Every argument against one piece is that it has not finished, shows how good one piece is, other animes need excuses to win 😂
No it’s because Aida doesn’t know how to wrap up a story without adding an arduous amount of filler
@@Fureth32 and who is Aida
@@Fureth32 Who tf is aida
@@Fureth32 who aida
@@Fureth32 if you mean oda then no theres no filler in the manga since all of the manga is cannon if your talking about the anime then its not his fault its toeis for adding the filler not oda
In the ''One Piece'' vs ''Fullmetal Alchimist Brotherhood'' debate Rob should've just said ''Nothing happend''!
and this is exactly why it didnt win. it has peaks that will never be as satisfying as luffy being pirate king or finding the one piece. everybody started watching one piece for those 2 reasons. why you carried on dont matter, its why you started that counts
@@bear566you'd be right except that the category was "Peaks" as in multiple peaks
So while there isn't a moment that will surpass the high of Luffy becoming the Pirate King
He could've still defended with
"Nothing happened"
"I want to live"
"Thank you for loving me"
And much much more.
Specially when you consider the manga and you get into
Spoilers
Gear 5,the defeat of big Mom and Kaido and the crowning of the 5th emperor of the sea
@@bear566 Nah that's subjective. How do you know that Luffy becoming the pirate king will be the most satisfying peak for every One piece fan? That's just a copout IMO. I think the argument is simple. One Piece has a lot of peak moments, at least one in every arc IMO. FMAB also has its moments as well. Idk why we have to bring up aspects that overcomplicate the argument.
@@Samsince04 If you learnt anything about storytelling, every story has its climax/peak. Different peaks in different arcs isn't the the argument. It's about the highest high the story has had that "concludes" the story.
And it didn't say for every person, but the majority. Hell maybe Luffy vs Blackbeard will be peak
Same way the majority will agree Naruto vs Sasuke was peak.
@@Samsince04 and you say "peak moments"
Its peak, just peak...and no one piece fan can look atleast one moment and say, "yes we can somewhat all agree that is peak."
As a 90's baby I grew up on Dragon Ball and was around to see the hype for DBZ when it first aired in America. So because of that it holds a special place in my heart that no other Anime ever will.
It's the GOAT say less!!
I want to remind you that one pice was so good that there was a song around the world asking if one pice has reached it's peak or will it get much higher
These types of videos are the best. Make more tier list type videos with this group.
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Bro code Geass and one piece should’ve been the ending bro these anime’s are the best in the world
what I got from the fmab peak argument is that a story has to end to have its peak. So by that logic one piece peaks are worse than demon slayer peaks since demon slayer ended. I might’ve misunderstood but that’s what I got from the argument.
ONG🤣. Bruh did NOT hold one piece down as he should’ve. IMO me personally ain’t none of them talking me out that shit cuz ain’t no way on this planet they actually think one piece isn’t peak lmfao
@@HesJoyboy it’s not that he was literally debating against 2 people because gabe could be quite when Rob turn came around also they brought up some random shit about “peaks being the end of an anime” or sum shit like that which makes no sense because every time I hear someone say this part of an anime is peak it’s usually the most hype or best parts of that anime……but it is what it is 🤷🏾♂
Nahhhhh FMAB won because it CONSISTENTLY had the highest high And never dropped or fell off. And completed its story without missing a beat. One piece has high ass peaks some of the best in history BUT it’s would be supremo cap to say throughout all of its episodes it stays peak. There are some low lows that FMAB never hit. Maybe in a dif category OP might have won but it def went against a hard hitter
Err no. Thats not what she was saying. PEAK is the climax of a story. OP is still getting CLOSE to its peak. Its still in the rising action. All the big moments in the OP series aren’t peaks. They are just moments, supernovas happening in the universe 🤓. The PEAK would be the climax, the collapsing of said universe. So yes, what you said is partially correct. Does Demon slayer have better peak than OP? Yes, but only because OP hasn’t even REACHED its peak yet. I know for a fact it will be way better than demon slayer though
firstly DS is finished and im not a big fan of it. but your peak of OP could be zoros "nothing happened" while mine is luffy beating lucci. two completely different peaks that dont serve to what the OP is. you looking at points arcs. the pain arc is peak naruto for others, but not the majority which is sasuke versus naruto. or naruto becoming hokage. we were promised that and we got it, those are peaks
game of thrones peak is season8 ep 3. even though others may disagree, that is what the show was built all the way to. if op stops now we'll feel robbed.
The FMAB slander is craaaazy, I hate that they didn’t bring up actually examples, like finding out king Bradley was a homunculus, finding out Salem was Pride, Greed sacrificing himself for Ling, Hoehenheim sacrificing himself for his sons, finding out fathers origin, seeing Al get his body back, Finding out the true story of the Ishvallen war, + so much more, then just the over all conclusion of the story were all captivating and rememberable, each of those moments had emotional depth. Personally feel like FMAB definitely deserves the win because of its timeless and original storyline and plot. Edward Elric is his own sort of protagonist you can’t compare any other protagonist to him because his personality was just so different then what you normally get in anime these days.
It really wasn't lmao all of them think that FMAB is an S tier anime, (it is) but the one piece slander was bigger.
Honestly I just don't think they argued their points well enough. The moment of seeing Mustang literally incinerate Envy was the peakest peak of all peaks after losing Hughes. I don't understand how to just wasn't brought up. The Naruto boys hating One Piece was crazy though, but that's Gabe, worlds #1 One Piece hater.
@@SPREET5454 you sorting facts, seeing Mustang get his pay back was definitely the most satisfying moment in the series. I feel Gabe tho cause I used to be a big One piece hater, until I heard the drums of liberation and watched the live action, now I’m on episode 402 😅.
becoming the pirate king wasnt even the final goal for luffy. And just because it isnt finished and hasnt reached its final peak doesnt mean fullmetal takes it. Infact the peak of fullmetal doesnt even touch any of the MANY peaks in one piece so the fact rob let that slide is crazy. Fullmetal is great and i loved watching i cant think of a single category that one piece loses to it in. Same goes to samurai champloo Other then consistently good episodes.
shonen u should have said that marineford was peak as it was the end of an era, all that world building for the new era that is peak
Im copy and pasting my comment on ones like yours:
peak is a climax. By saying OP arc peaks are better than FB peak, you are effectively saying that a SINGLE. OP. ARC, WAS SOMEHOW BETTER THAN THE ENTIRETY OF THE FB SERIES. What the lady was trying to say about peaks is that a peak is the climax of a story in plot. You have exposition, rising action, CLIMAX, falling action, and resolution. One Piece hasn’t even reached its peak yet as an entire story. We are CLOSE, but not yet. Calling ARCS such as Arlong, King, Marineford PEAK isn’t really the term that should be used. They were great MOMENTS, but not the PEAK of the show. Peaks in different arcs aren’t peaks. They are just the rising action to the actual peak, the climax. By these standards, it is no wonder FB won. It has an actual peak solely due to the fact it is a concluded story. You cant compare an incomplete story, much less a single arc, to the entirety of the other, COMPLETED series
@@Karmanara peak and climax are two different things. The end arc is climax not peak. Peak is at its best. For ongoing mangas or story peak is used for best arc or saga not for the end. So either the topic was stupid or either you don’t understand what peak is
If you go back and watch dbz the Animation is actually amazing, like the art and the look is older looking, but the animation and movement itself is actually spectacular even by today’s standards, I’d say it’s better than most anime produced today minus the usual big budget anime such as demon slayer, attack on Titan, jujutsu Kaisen ect
A singular arc in One Piece has better peaks than the entirety of FMAB; Gabe didn't even give One Piece a chance and was just straight up biased and didn't want One Piece to win that round, so of course he had to go with its competitor.
He's a massive Naruto fan that went into One Piece hating, gave up after Marineford somehow and just makes shitting on One Piece his whole personality.
As someone who has a bachelor's degree in Animation, DBZ should have won that category. If you look at animation as a whole, you are looking at not only the flow of it, but the art style. As someone who is a MASSIVE fan of Full Metal Alchemist, that animation is very beautiful. The scenes frame by frame are sick and sets the bar high, so it comes down to one thing. The uniqueness of the drawn characters, and age. If you look at Full Metal Alchemist, the art style is gorgeous, BUT its not massively unique. DBZ's art style is unlike anything else in the world. With those triangular shaped eyes, down to the overly muscular shapes to their bodies. There really isn't another anime out there that has an art style quite like DBZ.
Dragon Ball Z's brutal fight scenes, crazy, destructive animation, and art style, along with characters and arcs is what made DBZ the most iconic anime in history. The big 4 (DBZ, Naruto, One Piece, and Bleach) are all very well respected and loved, but in a lot of areas of the world, DBZ has become a culture to a lot of folks. Its old, the animation and art style helped CREATE a lot of animes we see today. During my studies I actually found animations that were a copy paste of DBZ scenes, as well as Naruto scenes believe it or not. Not students, but actual other animations out there, TRACING over DBZ scenes and adding it into their own animes. So hands down, DBZ wins, man.
I already know this statement was written by a W person
This is a meme copypasta shitpost.
I don't even care about your bachelors in animation if you don't even seem to know what it is. What you are doing is comparing the uniqueness of art styles. Animation is completely different. It's about how smooth the frames are, and the creativeness in which they are displayed. You see it most in fights. If you think the fighting effects in DBZ are better than the ones in FMAB I have nothing more to say to you.
honestly the video was gas but they were flaming one piece at the peaks section cause im not really sure but i dont really think that fmab got 200mil views in a single episode like one piece did in the sanji vs queen episode which was legit peak animation and fight
anime wasn’t as popular when full metal was going on .
Back in the early 2000s, you’d get bullied for getting caught watching that.
Anime post Covid is crazy popular so naturally a newer show is gonna attract more people then an older show.
Anime was mostly Japan only for a long time too outside of forums and really big shows like z.
Im copy and pasting my comment on ones like yours:
peak is a climax. By saying OP arc peaks are better than FB peak, you are effectively saying that a SINGLE. OP. ARC, WAS SOMEHOW BETTER THAN THE ENTIRETY OF THE FB SERIES. What the lady was trying to say about peaks is that a peak is the climax of a story in plot. You have exposition, rising action, CLIMAX, falling action, and resolution. One Piece hasn’t even reached its peak yet as an entire story. We are CLOSE, but not yet. Calling ARCS such as Arlong, King, Marineford PEAK isn’t really the term that should be used. They were great MOMENTS, but not the PEAK of the show. Peaks in different arcs aren’t peaks. They are just the rising action to the actual peak, the climax. By these standards, it is no wonder FB won. It has an actual peak solely due to the fact it is a concluded story. You cant compare an incomplete story, much less a single arc, to the entirety of the other, COMPLETED series
FMAB doesn't have 200M fans... But quality of a shows cannot be defined by its views... Vinland Saga has less views than Boruto, Bacanno has less than views Pyscho, etc...
Even though I do think FMB is the perfect anime but One Piece definelty has the most peaks in the anime history when I heard big decision or changing plot the peaks got even way bigger that it might break even fiction from the moment it started specially in manga thanks losing his arm in chapter 1 to zoro declaring he won't lose again and his loyalty proven again and again Or Sabaody Archaepeligo Fluffy losing his crew got topped in Impel Down With Tense moments to The Next Entire Marinefird Arc Is Peak I Mean Every Sing ke Second Was Peak, One Piece Has so many peaks that so many people have tiger own moment and arc when it became their most favourite To Barati To Along Park To Water 7 To Enies Lobby To Sabaody To Impel Down To Marineford There's No Going back after Marineford The Peak is the main reason why I Think All People Love One Peice Deep Down Because Of That.
Damn dude did One Piece dirty. I can't believe he got taken down by a semantics argument.
Let's be honest, we all know One piece has better peaks than FMB
Idk both really goated tho
I love this game show type series so much! Everyone's personality mesh so well 🔥
Love your videos rob, you’re easily my favorite CZcamsr. I’ve watched every single one of your videos since I’ve found your channel 😂
Appreciate you so much bro, glad you enjoy the content
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@@ShonenShowdown can’t wait for more! Keep it up man!
Start rewatching lol that’s what I do when I’m bored
@@wickedslushy2015 I’ve done for a lot of the videos lol
Bro had consistency as a topic for One Piece and opened up with Marineford going into Fishman Island, probably the worst example he could’ve offered lmao
Love your channel Rob, mad underrated but I’m glad I found this hidden treasure 🏆
Wow, the girl defending FMAB is really good at getting her points across, im glad she defended FMAB she was amazing and she definitely deserved the victory.
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@@BigBallsLover6969 thank you
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@@thousandhunnywhy dont you post anything on your channel
I would of won this challenge with fairy tail it would of been easy for me also love the creativity rob been watching for over a year now
Respect
I love Fairytail ✊️❤️🔥😭
I would of picked bleach
A small part of me dies everytime gabe called one piece mid.
Yall should make more of these
imagine actually calling one piece mid. how can a story so large be mid
I WOULD GIVE MY LIFE FOR ONE PIECE ❤
Same😂
Me fr
Fr that peak argument for fma was weak
This was entertaining bro 😂👏🏽
Appreciate it! 🤣
Ayo observation Inventer having 1 like and reply is crazy
Lemme Join up
I like how they’re talking like businessmen over anime
She really tried to compare animation with 90s anime💀
My boi Rob kept getting attack by Gabe anytime he see a chance to attack one piece. W vid and was funny to watch, keep up the bangerrr vids Rob
This content actually glued me in 😂
I would win every one of these because anyone else’s argument would be out of the question for me.
a lot to say but. When it comes to peaks OP is unbeatble, it dosent have the best peaks only in anime and manga, but in fiction itself
I wouldn't say that but it's definitely up there with the best of the best
@@Gin-San101 u right i didnt say it right. what i mean is the competiton for OP is not just anime and manga but the whole fiction genre and all storys as a whole
@@Gin-San101 watch Zoro vs King…he’s not lying
@@_rashidisaiah oh I know I'm just saying there's a lot of peaks in fiction
@@khametrick3888 im talking about quolity story, not just influens. when it comes to story is one of the best in the business
I respect that Rob took that L, but you did kinda sell. Sje had an amazing argument but i thi k you just didnt have a good enough rebuttal. I feel like jsut because we haven't reached "THE peak" that doesn't automatically make the other peaks have less weight. I still think COMPARITAVELY Oda just builds up to the peaks of each arc SOO much better than almost anyone else. It always hits you like a truck because Oda is phenomenal when it comes to setup and building hype(he's been in the game for 25 years) so i still think it shouldve been a wash for One Piece. I also just think it would've been fun to see rob somehow lose to gabe at the end bc he says some "luffy is a goku clone" type shi(preferably in the "shanks is a haki man" voice)
That dude with the hat made example like call of duty, pokemon being consistent but the big difference is that OP have an amazing history with amazing characters, scenes, fights, and plot. OP in not a franchiese, it is a all-around history that each chapter can contain a key element to the plot.
I think y’all should do like a best of 3 or as another comment said, a losers bracket, it gives the other person a chance when they get a bad roll
I’m no librarian or teacher but the explanation given from 17:47 is the definition of each arc in OP. Yes it’s not a completed story but in each arc you get the “completed, from beginning to end” which is what makes all of the Peaks in One Piece. Brotherhood is amazing and definitely don’t want to discredit anything that makes the show amazing but the stance on the argument felt like it took a huge turn when the librarian thing was flexed.
@@khametrick3888 bro peaks doesn’t have to happen at the end of the story though idk what bullshit you guys been listening to but peaks are usually what happen in a certain part of the story that was hype or the best simple.
@@gamigun280 True the literal argument I would say the peak is just a part of the story that has the highest point of emotion. Each Arc has components of a full story (i.e. exposition, rising action, climax/peak, falling action, and resolution) so it not being completed is a stupid argument.
Im copy and pasting my comment on ones like yours:
peak is a climax. By saying OP arc peaks are better than FB peak, you are effectively saying that a SINGLE. OP. ARC, WAS SOMEHOW BETTER THAN THE ENTIRETY OF THE FB SERIES. What the lady was trying to say about peaks is that a peak is the climax of a story in plot. You have exposition, rising action, CLIMAX, falling action, and resolution. One Piece hasn’t even reached its peak yet as an entire story. We are CLOSE, but not yet. Calling ARCS such as Arlong, King, Marineford PEAK isn’t really the term that should be used. They were great MOMENTS, but not the PEAK of the show. Peaks in different arcs aren’t peaks. They are just the rising action to the actual peak, the climax. By these standards, it is no wonder FB won. It has an actual peak solely due to the fact it is a concluded story. You cant compare an incomplete story, much less a single arc, to the entirety of the other, COMPLETED series
@@Karmanara do arcs not have a peak? The question was Peaks not the climax to the story as a whole. Tbh it seems the question wasn’t worded right what I think they meant was greatest moments.
@@malik5531 yeah if they said greatest moments of course OP should have won, but its not THE peak if it hasn’t reached the climax yet. Calling a great moment in a story peak is the same as saying I reached the top of mount Everest even though I only stopped at ONE of its points and not THE highest point.
Think One Piece deserved to win but FMAB is DEFINITELY an Amazing Anime
I feel like half of them dont know One Piece. They just know words like Luffy and king of the pirates
These types of videos are my favourite😂
I just gotta say that I think it speaks volumes about One Piece's quality and longevity that the best argument that can be made against it are worst-case what-if scenarios. I woulda just ended the argument right there lol. You gotta IMAGINE a world where my show is bad to make an argument? Ok yeah, go ahead and finish what you were saying haha.
The claim that "Saying FMAB has more peaks than OP is crazy" can be further strengthened by providing additional evidence and analysis. While it is true that FMAB has a single significant peak at the end, it does not imply that OP lacks a fully developed story buildup or a satisfying conclusion. In fact, OP offers a unique narrative structure with multiple peaks throughout the series, each contributing to the overarching story arc.
Firstly, OP encompasses a vast and intricate world filled with diverse characters, each with their own personal journeys and storylines. This multifaceted approach allows for numerous climactic moments and peaks throughout the show. From the intense battles and emotional revelations in the Enies Lobby arc to the dramatic confrontation with Whitebeard during the Marineford War, OP consistently delivers high-stakes and emotionally impactful moments that resonate with viewers.
Furthermore, OP's storytelling is characterized by a well-crafted sense of mystery and continuous unraveling of plotlines. The show presents numerous mysteries and unanswered questions, keeping the audience engaged and eagerly anticipating each revelation. Whether it's the enigmatic history of the Void Century or the true nature of Devil Fruits, OP excels at creating an intricate web of secrets that gradually unfold over time.
Additionally, OP's peaks are not limited to the final arc alone. Throughout the series, there are several self-contained story arcs that offer their own climaxes and resolutions. From the Arlong Park arc, which explores themes of justice and prejudice, to the emotionally charged Water 7 and Enies Lobby arcs, which delve into themes of friendship and sacrifice, OP consistently delivers impactful narrative peaks that contribute to the overall depth and richness of the story.
In conclusion, while FMAB may have a singular, powerful peak at its conclusion, it is important to recognize that OP's peaks are spread throughout the series, providing a diverse range of climactic moments and contributing to a fully developed and satisfying narrative. OP's ability to maintain a sense of mystery, unravel complex plotlines, and deliver emotionally resonant peaks at various points in the story sets it apart and makes it a compelling and engaging anime series.
The category was "Peaks" as in which story contains the best moments and best reveals, the story doesn't need to be finished in order to have a peak, one piece has several arcs, all with finished stories, all with their own peaks and climaxes, luffy's journey is the only one that hasn't reached its absolute peak yet, that doesn't mean we should ignore the countless other peaks given to us throughout the entire story.
Bro you literally the best CZcamsr out there ! Love your vids . Oh and one more thing FMAB has more consistent peaks but One Piece's peaks are higher IMO
bro when they were talking about characters that were similar to david in my head i was like ICHIGO ICHIGO ICHIGO ICHIGO
It is an absolute crime that our DB defender didn't bring up the animation quality of the latest movies. Incredible marvels and innovative technologies. He could have made an amazing showing with Shintani's work on Broly. He's sad for that, and I'm mad for his hatin-ass against One Piece.
The fact whenevr they spoke abt op other ppl stepped in a bit to defend the opposing anime is crazy
I can imagine rob stopping an episode of one piece to cry tears joy about how good it is and turn it back on
Always good when rob posts
😂😂I just noticed how much mario kart background music your using in the videos
Me as a DBZ superfan at the end it was Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood and all I kept saying was “don’t say storytelling don’t say storytelling”🤣
Uploading 2 days in a row?? WE EATING😤
If were talking character no other protagonist is touching Edward. You'll have to really dig deep into the classics to even stand a chance like Kenshin or something.
Not true Yusuke urimeshi exist
Lelouch for me. Easily my favourite character of all time, in media.
Piccolo being a POC is crazy😂😂
In the last round gabe should've brought up the movies such as a super hero and broly and he would've mopped the floor with her because the animation in those movies are actually insane
DBS Super Hero and Broly for Animation. Case Closed.
I'm assuming they were talking about the animation from only dbz, not super
@@dremz7102 they were bringing up super goku in the discussion for main character
Hot take: The vid was over after One Piece vs Full metal, cause they where the best 2 on the list. And anyone else that made it to the finale was doomed to fail.
The DBZ vs cyberpunk was just comically hilarious on how cyberpunk even compares
Fmb edward giving up alchemy all together is what makes it the greatest. Gave everything he has gained throught the series to bring his brother back is what this entire series was about. Absolute peak and no anime has reach a peak such as that
The one piece vs fma arguement would have only made sense if it was about consistency but when you look at the peaks alone one piece has higher peaks
In the terms of the peak catagory i think it shoulve been explained more on how you would determine the peak/peaks of those shows, the argument that Ak had on Fmab was great and if you define peak like she did i agree with fmab winning that however how can you determine the "peak" of a show that hasnt hit its climax yet? Fm has concluded its story and has already hit its peak/climax one piece hasnt, now both have their own peaks/moments key word (peaks/moments) in both shows respectively and i think thats how the topic shouldve went so both fm and one piece can be seen on a common ground and that you can argue which series had those better peaks/moments between the two.Thats like with the fight topic with code geass and dragon ball do you go off which one is more iconic which dragon ball obviously wins or which fights had good structure to them cuz both series have that,it wasnt really as detailed you feel me.
Cant wait for Rob vs Gabe to have their 1v1
"There are a bunch of characters like Goku" Yeah, almost like he was the pioneer of that archetype, the "first" if you will. There is a difference between being a copy and being what is copied.
BABE WAKE UP SHONEN SHOWDOWN JUST POSTED
OP is the best with the peaks it had! Im sure that everyone who watches the show can imagine how not simple the One Piece truly is. imo, its not gonna be just a simple treasure but something even better, like information, history or just the meaning of piracy in their world. I think they underestimated how powerfull OP peaks are and how suprising this anime can turn around without warning. I think people also forget that its not about the goals(peaks) overall but the journey they took to get to them❤
The Paper Mario music in the beginning🙌🏻
Every arc in one piece had a peak, and if you watch every episode and read every chapter in the manga, every thing literally is pieced together… my man was robbed. Lol
I put FMA above OP atm cause it nailed the ending. A good ending can make or break an anime
But while I would say that FMA is a lot more consistently good of anime, OP has had much better peaks
I differ on how they defined peak, yes, the ending was good, but was it the most impactful thing? The thing that hit the hardest in FMA was Nina and Hughes
I dont think that OP ever hurt me like Nina did, but it has a lot more amazing moments like a funeral and a certain character sacrificing himself so that others can escape. OP hits those high notes a lot and more frequently.
We focus on things like 'Nothing Happened', but OP has so much more, like Alabasta alone had so many good moments. Cool moments of Ace, Luffy almost dying multiple times, an old man believing in his king and trying to restore the oasis, Mr Prince to rescue, Luffy beating up Vivi, Usopp's making a stand cause they laughed at Luffy's dream, Nami saying the pain she endures was nothing compared to Vivi's, Zoro surpassing himself, Pell's sacrifice, Vivi crying at top of her lungs to stop fighting, the eventual rain, a naked king bowing his head to pirates, Bon chan's sacrifice, the raised fists with X mark on them
That's what I am saying in my other comment, FMAB is a very consistent show, if the topic was consistency, I would probably give it to FMAB because One Piece is so long that it's bound to have some highs and lows, but if we're arguing peaks, One Piece all day every day.
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Thank you bro 🙏🏾
FMABH would of won the emotional impact with one work “Nina” and then hit the mic drop haha😂
One peice loosing peaks is robbery, but also one peice got no ceilings
One piece should have won