Has James Gunn Made A HUGE MISTAKE With The DCU?! | DC News
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- James Gunn has returned to answering DC fans questions on social media, but in doing so, he has confused us even more. ames Gunn had taken a break from answering fans questions on social media whilst the strikes were on going but as the strikes are ending, he has returned to instagram threads to talk to fans. But once again I don’t really think he has helped himself and today we will find out why.
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"First we have Shazam: Fury of the Gods! [...] Shazam has always been off kinda in his own part of the DCU"
"The true start of the DCU is called Superman Legacy"
"The first DCU character for sure is Blue Beetle"
"Nothing is canon until Creature Commandos next year"
Its because he got the faceplant of failures from those movies that he is too scared to call them his own. Imagine if they have been successful films, we will see him bragging nonstop due to his involvement making them successful. And i am speaking of the last 4 films from the DCEU.
He screwed up from the minute he sends out his tweets.
Well with the strikes and delays that movies get all the time. Mad Max fury road was suppose to come out in 2013 but was delayed two years, but people still loved it
The snyderverse could've easily be continued under the elseworlds umbrella
And it should ZSJL a 4 Hour movie was the 4th largest streamed movie of 2021.
Yes, but would've overshadowed Gunns Universe
@@TioJones-lm1zi ya but the Snyder fans don’t care about that lol
@@johnydomestudios Gunns Ego does tho lol
@@TioJones-lm1ziMaybe so but it would be 2-3 films.
It's discombobulated for sure. I agree that if you were going to do your own brand of movies, then Gunn should've gone with a clean slate 100% and started fresh and with new actors. Otherwise, his cherry picking philosophy will be his undoing for this DCU.
Really just wish we got zack to do a final justice league movie where darkseid just wins and ends the dceu there then starts completely brand new fresh all new actors james gun dcu at this point
Not gonna happen buddy
@@TioJones-lm1zi Never claimed it would
Only time will tell with Superman Legacy. If it fails, DC and WB is in a load of trouble. I'll be cautiously optimistic and reserve my judgement until then.
Superman Legacy will be overshadowed by all the Marvel Projects not a Marvel fan btw Superman Legacy will fail badly
High stakes! Scary to say the least.🤞🏾
@@TioJones-lm1ziyou don't know.
"SUPERMAN: LEGACY" will... without a doubt... FLOP BADLY at the box office !
#FIREJAMESGUNN
@@jakelockley7208 Superman is boring for today's modern age he's not woke enough especially the way James Gunn is gonna write him as America Big Blue Caped Boyscout
I am super confused is this a reboot or not because right now I am so lost.
I’ll never forgive Zaslav and Gunn ending the Snyderverse without so much as an olive branch to finish things off, but ultimately, I love DC and overall, I do like Gunn’s work with the Guardian movies so I’ll almost definitely suck up my irritation and see the first few movies.
On a side note,here’s hoping we’ll at least see Cavill as the new James Bond.
I don’t think they really give a shit my guy
@@coltongates7397i second that
I hope the next time someone interacts with him on social media, they directly ask him how he plans on keeping the DC EU characters in the new DCU
He just killed aquaman. His slate announcement partly made Shazam, flash, and blue beetle all flop
From what has been going on, I had a feeling that the dcu is a full reboot and a clean slate, I even think he's probably lying about the actor returning and just trying to give use more money.
Even it is. General Auidences have higher standards for Comic Book Movies now. Ie films like Across The Spider-Verse, No Way Home, The Batman etc.
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Please explain the other DC flops?
@@Neethan3247You mean the Hamadaverse? What's there to explain?
Thank you my friend.
Have yourself a great weekend.
Thanks, you too!
This guy had 1 successful franchise. Never ever made or come close to a billion dollars in the theaters. Still baffled how he got the job, when majority of his movies are comedies. Serious movies make the billions, not comedies.
Viola Davis, John Cena, and Xolo Mariduena are the three actors that are staying in the dcu.
I personally don’t like the Rock too much but Warner should have listen to him instead
It’s still a mess. Zaslav doesn’t have the money to keep the studio afloat, especially when these big properties are making them lose money. Hiring Gunn was a mistake.
@@AhamedMohammed507It was a HUGE mistake.
@@AhamedMohammed507 So far, it is. He keeps getting called out on his bs on twitter. He doesn’t have all his ducks in a row so he keeps making excuses. It’s separate from the dceu but yet it’s not. 🤪
@@JaredViiSaying that plot points from the DCEU may continue but the DCEU won't be canon is just plain confusing.
@@AhamedMohammed507it is
Do you guys remember what he said after firing Henry Cavil
He said that he wanted to make a younger superman movie
So people thought maybe henry cavil will come later
Then he was fired
Then after a while he said Henry Cavil is a great actor but doesn't fit in his new plans for dc
Now he is saying some actors will remain this is so confusing
I am obviously not understanding what am saying right now am confused
What a cluster F.....He hasnt taken a good approach to this...We should of continued or did a full reboot..this half and half is killing the brand
Of course James gunn is making a huge mistake with the DCU he got rid of Henry Cavill
Not a mistake
@@johnydomestudiosbig mistake
Make the three Justice League movies with the Snyderverse cast, use the third movie to soft reboot and introduce new actors to the role. Hell, give Wann or Muschietti to direct. Make the Darkseid Wars happen and acknowledge the Nightmare time line. That's all it takes.
Also, you're right about Black Adam. They were course correcting.
I think this would be great or atleast they should have utilised the flash mvie ofcz it doesn't work without a superman movie, a batman movie and a final jl movie to conclude the story and then a flash movie for flashpoint
Just get rid of Superman killing everyone in sight. No one will accept that and it will kill DC outright.
No
@@jonathanhill3668 why not
@@Nyota..eBecause Ben doesn’t want to be Batman anymore
Making Gunn in charge was the worst decision ever made by Warner bros sorry not sorry
Yeah, I do think wiping the slate clean would've been best after some time, as I'm curious to see how some rebooted characters will be retooled for the DCU.
Instead you are getting Bizarre selective reboot. Good luck with that
@@marcozolo3536nope if you actually pay attention to the slate you will realize there all setting up major characters and teams
Here's the one area you are wrong. Fans turned on the DCEU when it was revealed before black Adam that all films after Black Adams release will be the last DCEU movies. So in their minds why see a movie that's a dead end?
Me personally I don't care anymore. I just DC to be great with or without Snyder. We should just give James Gunn a chance.
Once they ended the Snider's universe. I lost interest. Really I lost interest in all superhero movies and shows.
@@AhamedMohammed507 I don't know what that means?
@@ilive4d80s6 Basically they think you have a bad take.
Personally I agree with your take because i stopped caring about DC once i knew the Snyderverse was over.
@@jammygamer8961 okay.
@@jammygamer8961Why the fuck are you here then dumbass?
Nobody saw those DCEU movies anyway so it’s not like it’s going to matter.
Maybe the similar plot points mean Gunns Batman had a Robin that died like Affleck or when David Cornswet's Superman had a cautious, wary relationship with the higher ups like Waller or whoever the General Swanwick equivalent is (a higher-level general character or say the President) David Cornswet's Superman could meet the DCU Batman in slightly adversarial way but maybe their encounter plays out like the Superman The Animated Series episode 'World's Finest from October of 1997.
Of course his buddies will be included in the reboot. Don't be surprised if Chris Pratt shows up to play not-Star Lord but still Star Lord.
Looking at this from a “glass half empty” mindset, they’ll bring back Margot Robbie. But from a “glass half full” mindset, this means they have an excuse to fire Ezra Miller.
I think "time" is the best medicine here. Because of the major flops of current DC films I don't really think people are "counting" them as being a part of anything versus just films connected under Hamada's vision (had they just released these films instead of pin the tale on the release date schedule there could have been more money --- but they waited forever to release them and this is the effect). Instead, its been a pretty long time since Joss Weadon's JL film -- as I'm sure only real DCEU fans are really aware of the Snyder Cut. Therefore, a new start after a pause probably is the best way to go about this IF they are not connecting these films to Black Adam/Flash ect. DC also has a chance to one up Marvel. While DC revs up for a reboot, Marvel fatigue has set in and most of the quality behind Marvel content, post Endgame/Now Way Home, has been lackluster. This means that SupLegacy has a real chance to set up a strong alternative. Its always been a pendulum when it comes to Marvel fandom/ DC fandom.
HOWEVER going about this reboot the smart way is going to be key. I'm not an exec so I don't have the golden answer, but by this point, BECAUSE OF TIME, probably a solid reboot is needed. Cena was great as Peacemaker but if it comes to saving the DCU and him, then he's gotta go. Same with Waller. However, this is the DC Universe, and as Flash has shown, DC is big on parallels earths. So I think Exiting ALL the DCEU actors might not be the best route, as they already are DC fans. I can see Cavill and Gal's Superman and Wonder Woman coming from a Kingdom Come universe and being the Kingdom Come versions of those characters. DC has a tone of Superman meets Superman storylines althroughout the cannon and usually they're pretty great stories --- like during Infite Crisis when E2 Superman showed up. OR go the alternate route and make Cavil,Gal,Affleck the evil E3 versions of their characters and have them come from the Nightmare Verse of the Snyderverse --- maybe the fact that Flash never returned to the Snyderverse (and ending up in the Clooney-verse) created a ripple-effect that created an evil Justice League --- I mean Snyder's world was always kind of cut from the same cloth as the Watchmen stuff, so it makes sense that in the multiverse of things an evil version of their Justice League exists. Which is to say, you don't have "Scrap" those actors BECAUSE of the DC Multiverse, HOWEVER, you probably need new and fresh blood in those characters to represents the NEW DC Universe.
I think Gunn would be smart to do something that fans have wanted for awhile and that basically is the live action version of the Bruce Timm DC Animated Universe. Gunn should totally pull from comic book storylines such as New Frontier, Kingdom Come, All-Star Superman, ect, but he'd probably be wise to create something akin to the nostalgia and hopefulness that was in shows such as JLU, then he would in trying to make a dark DC universe that's rated R. DC could have gone that route and kind of still is with the Joker and Batman films --- and they can continue making offshoot DC R projects that are not connected with the tone of the DCU films--- but I think the nostalgia is there with the DCAU and recreating the color and vibe of those shows, just my take, is probably the way to go. Already, SL already has a vibe of being JLU with the announcement of who's been cast to play the pre-JLA so he's most likely on the right track, from the offset, if he gets Superman "right". Its this pesky who to keep and who not to keep that sems to be bogging this down. I think it might be even cool to see some of these DCEU characters show up in lesser known characters -- like Snyder did with the Watchmen actors. And, again, with the multiverse, this can kind of vaguely be explained. They can even go the route of making Gal Hippolyta/Athena, Cavil Zod/Eradicator, Affleck as Thomas Wyane.
General Auidences are aware of the Snyder Cut. It wouldn't have been the 4th most streamed movie of 2021 if they weren't.
It would be cool to see more HQ and more Aquaman, but either way, a transition between the DCEU and DCU would be the proper way to do it, in my opinion.
DC needs a hard reboot. Wb made a huge mistake going all in on Gunn imo. The suicide squad, 2 seasons of peacemaker, creature commandos, and superman legacy. They gave him everything
You are so correct and hit the nail right on the head. This is what’s been on my mind all the time when it was announced that some of the DCEU which day handsome would not
The only way I could see this happening is if there is some sort of MCU type blimp, or multi-verse entanglement on sorts where are the DCEU Characters are pulled into the DCU world…
Man, I’m confused, trying to think about
It! I worry for the future of DC..
DCU is bound to miss the casual audience doesn't care about DC anymore. It's Flips and Confusing timelines have made Casuals lose interest. The confusion of seeing Battinson and New DCU Batman, Superman without Cavill,Gal Gadot Wonder Woman? What is this? A pile garbage that's gonna get dumped Quick by Universal when merged
@@TioJones-lm1ziGeneral Auidences don't care about DC post 2018 unless it's an Elseworlds project.
I have always said, any Actors who would stay onto the DCU, from the DCEU are different versions. When Gunn said some actors would stay but it was a reboot.
I don’t agree with Gunn’s directions, but, he may surprise me.
Waiting to judge after Superman Legacy.
We need the DC Extended Universe version Avengers Infinity War & Avengers Endgame, and if James Gunn won't write that, I will start writing a script, this will be one last goodbye to the original connected universe!
gunn wants so desperately to be the smartest guy in the room. he wants the loyalty the faction of snyder fans showed the director and DCEU, and the interest general audiences showed them as well. hence why he insisted on bringing in his own newer talent and talent he was attached to in the dceu (cena, davis, likely his wife and other tss talent). hence why he insts on writing AND directing perhaps the biggest film in their lineup, and its also the reason why the lineup looks the way that it does. it wasnt about creating a slate of films that audiences would find accessible and enjoyable overall, but pushing projects HE wants to see. the best thing we can do is simply not support this dcu, as it's not being made with audiences in mind to begin with
I will never support Gunns DCU 🚮
Honestly he hasn’t done anything yet 😂 let’s wait for his first movie post DCEU before judging.
I am not confused I know exactly what he is saying
Tbh, this is not confusing at all, so i don’t have any problem. But it’s true, it should be HARD reboot.
Maybe they’re talking about that stuff they do in the comics that is pretty much driven the sales off of a cliff?👍🏻
gunn decide to keep some actor like "Dave Bautista threatens to quit Guardians of the Galaxy if James Gunn isn’t reinstated" told ya james is good film maker.
His product is still cringe though from DC’s side. What works for Marvel just doesn’t work with DC and god like heroes.
This company is so desperate to cheat and copy off from their own competition that it’s embarrassing
@@YourLordnAuthority-1 insert "can i copy your homework" memes .
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Exactly lol it’s real sad
Makes sense great 👍 video
Thank you!
I agree with you. I feeling he is just saying he will use those actors and actresses. However the story or history will be changed as they want.
Not letting Snyder finish his story means that Gunn's lacking a united fanbase to support his DCU. He's all but killed his DCU already by pissing off millions of fans and creating a DC fan culture of hate and segregation.
Yep, if Snyder isn't allowed to finish his 5 movie arc. The DCU will have even more of an uphill battle.
True, at this point seems like they are hopeing that when the dcu projects launch people forget about all the nonsense choices Gunn has made and that ain’t happening.
@@alanjaviercheveremartinez9971Many people didn't like the DCEU, so I doubt the majority will care. Only the Snyder fans will hate it.
@@TheGameLab300 If that was the case there would be a better response from the DC community in general, at this point we are more certain of what lie or divisive comment is Gunn going to tell next than if the DCU plan will be completely carried out.
@@alanjaviercheveremartinez9971 Not true, the vast majority hated it, there are plenty of videos explaining why the DCEU failed, BvS was awful, justice league was beyond awful, and the snyder cut managed to be decent. You're only watching videos bashing james gunn, hence why you believe we all have negative feedback, the majority of us, when you see the other side, really actually want to see DC succeed, and we never want to go back.
Gunn needs to stay off social media and just focus on superman
It doesn’t really bother me and I’m a huge Snyder fan so go figure. I’m just not getting so mixed up in the smaller stuff. I guess if it really does confuse so many fans then I’ll change my mind but honestly I think it’ll just come together as things develop. A full clean slate would be better but he just doesn’t want that and he’s has a bit of an ego and wants to make sure everyone knows he’s making the final decision with stuff like this. I do think that a break even on Superman Legacy would be a bad thing and although I do think it’s unnecessary added pressure I do think it’ll have to bring in 3/4 of a million to be considered a success. Having said that I think it will. Gunn has the story, he has is main characters and he has himself. He won’t screw this one up. The rest is yet to be determined
Drinking game every time you say DCEU or DCU.
I'm wasted! 🤣
For some of yall just hear it from his mouth instead of channels like this that really help
Muddy the waters and change your thought process
Do you think Gunn has cleared up any confusion or do you think he's added to it?
Unless Gunn is redefining what a reboot is he's definitely adding to the confusion. One theory is that he can't afford to reboot the franchise because there's only so many actors to play these roles. Marvel's gobbled up a good chunk of Hollywood and with the worlds of X-Men, Fantastic Four and Blade on the horizon, not to mention more B and C-level heroes like Moonknight, Ms. Marvels and whatever else they wanna dig out of the Marvel Comics archives, the MCU is about to get a second wind and get even more actors to hitch their wagon to the MCU.
As for the upcoming Superman: Legacy movie, I'm extremely skeptical that it'll be successful. For one it's not just Superman but 5 other superheroes in a movie that's designed to introduce the world to the (so-called) DCU. Superman, Mr. Terrific, Hawkgirl, Metamorpho, Green Lantern and Plastic Man, not to mention side characters like Lois, probably Perry White and/or Jimmy Olsen, Martha Kent and maybe a flashback of Jon Kent and Jor El feels like way, WAY too much. And all this before we even know who the villain or villains will be.
It's also fascinating how much crap Marvel got for casting Iron Man, Nick Fury and Dr. Strange in the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies as pundits suggested that Marvel wasn't able to write a competent Spider-Man movie without the help of other MCU characters. Enter Gunn with 6 superheroes in a movie that's meant to focus on just one of them. This coupled with Gunn's very confusing statements about when the actual DCU will begin spells disaster in my eyes but all we can do is wait and see.
And somehow Gunn's fanboys still find ways to defend him and justify his decisions. I like James gunn's work, but even I feel like he's way in over his head here
So? Will everyone be multiverse variants with just the same actors sometimes? Like will "Peace Maker" have different memories or something? When reboots happen in comics it's pretty explicit. Shit will say "and the sands of time shifted" or " history as we knew it was lost" or something. They tell you a physical occurrence, like the Flashpoint events caused by the speedforce, or Dr. Strange's spell, or whatever, literally warped timespace and disrupted history and causality. They tell you to your face in comics that this has happened. The DCU isn't making this clear.
I for example hoped the flash movie to clear this but am more confused right now
James keeping his actor that ever works with him as a back up plan if wbd plans to ditch him. Smart move gunn.
James Gunn is a total failure at WBD. He needs to be fired along with Saffron and Zaslav.
No it will never happen
Apparently the Gunn people don’t get this either. You tell them Gunn said The Flash will reset the DCEU into the new DCU. And they’re like “IT DOESN’T MATTER THO!” And then they’re like “well…that doesn’t answer the question at hand.” And apparently that doesn’t matter either.
People are so confused I mean the flash didn't solve anything
It jus added more questions😂😂
This isn't confusing, idk why you think that. I listened to the video, but I don't understand the reasoning.
You even mentioned that this happens in the comics, general audiences can grasp this concept.
Only what is shown moving forward is cannon, that's it.
You’re seeing that from a fan perspective. Not the general audience who won’t be following along with this.
These studios are completely insane. Give Cavill a good script or two and they could make a fortune out of it
@Lordhavok507 he's done because they treated him like trash
Absolutely man, fresh reboot, I'd get behind it and actually watch BB
So people think superman legacy doesn’t have to be a big success because it’s at the beginning?
Seems to me that Batman versus superman was at the beginning as well ?
What a sideshow
This is James Gunn’s universe not DC, he’s doing whatever makes HIM happy not the fans … lmaooo and to think people were upset with Snyder 😂😂
Let's see commandos first and go from there. It's not good speculating when nothing is out yet. I've faith in James Gunn. I hope dc doesn't fall into the trap, wooke Hollywood.
Everything i heard from him made sense. Fans got to give the new dc a real chance and appreciate it being made by people who want good stories and care more about the comics. Unlike what marvel has become. DC upcoming should outdo marvels upcoming.
I don't think the problem is Gunn. I think the problem is WBD. They are so lost. They had a good thing going and to reboot now, and not have anything out until 2025 is stupid and crazy. The comic book movie genre is slowing down, and you had the actors and characters at hand, but decided to reboot it all and start all over. No one is waiting Tha long for new characters and actors. I'm in my 50s. By the time they get their feet wet I'll be on my 60s. Wtf?
I feel sad for you..
It's good to want the DCU to be better than the DCEU, but Gunn is at the helm. It's just not realistic that Gunn will do better than Snyder.
Our Movie News brings up legitimate concerns about Gunn's DCU. If it's confusing to normal DC fans, think how more confusing cherry-picking characters to stay in the DCU from the DCEU.
I've argued these points before. But there are die-hard Gunn fans out there that believe he can do no wrong. The DCU hasn't even technically come out yet, and already, he's done so much wrong. I have no faith or optimism for the DCU.
I think Warner Bros has had such bad leadership for so long that a lot of us just assumed that once Zaslav came in, we'd finally get a breath of fresh air. But he ignorantly hired Gunn.
Zaslav is a businessman first. But he hasn't done his research. I think he's helped worsen Warner Bros specifically pertaining to all things DC.
You want to make $? Why not start with ACTUALLY servicing your fans. That includes good storytelling. Not just laugh a minute comedy from one Barry Allen to the other.
Warner Bros made fans just hang there with no resolution TWICE! They granted Zack Snyder's Justice League. It ended with a tease that Darkseid is now coming to Earth in person with his armada.
Yet, we're all left hanging in anticipation. Dwayne Johnson KNEW it was about servicing the fans. And AGAIN. We get Black Adam and a tease for a major showdown between Black Adam and Superman.
Once AGAIN, we are left hanging. On top of that, Cavill is terminated after the studio JUST asked him back. Zaslav is NOT a good businessman. And neither is Gunn for pushing his own agenda appointed by Zaslav.
I think it's clear that Gunn doesn't know what he's doing. If he was clear from day one, we wouldn't be confused today. He strongly comes across as making it up as he goes. That's my impression.
The man has only experience with putting crude humor movies together like The Suicide Squad. He has no business touching the likes of Superman. -OG
Got you friend.. but all I can agree with you is that DC lack good leadership
The best thing marvel got or done was putting Kevin Feig as the leader first of all he had a history with marvel he started working with them way back b4 the MCU he pinched the idea of MCU and the bosses saw it would be profitable and made him the boss
DC is always making worse decisions putting a director as the head of a project is worse cz even if there is other directors with different ideas from him he won't agree with them he will want them to stick with what he thinks is right
Once again I repeat DC LACKS LEADERSHIP
G'day it's Steven from Down Under
Im so disappointed and seriously over the mishandling of DC.
For a moment it seemed like Black Adam was getting us back on track, and we were all relieved to have Henry Cavill back.
This is a HOT MESS and the fans are boycotting everything DC.
Get rid of Gunn, Warner Bros have shot themselves in the foot with a big bloody GUNN.
This whole thing wreaks of incompetence and nepatism.
Meh
I'm sorry to sound negative, but I need to be honest. Even if they had fully rebooted, the DCU would've been just a shadow of what the DCEU could've been. After Zack Snyder's Justice League released, we had finally gotten a good and epic Justice League movie, better than Josstice League. However, after releasing that movie, even if the universe was fully rebooted, I can guarantee the fanbase would be forever divided because if there's one thing that many movie goers hate, it's an unfinished story. As long as Zack Snyder's DC movies exist, then they're would've always been a divide, and I'm sorry to say that even if the full reboot was good, I highly doubt anything we would've gotten from a full reboot would've compared to the incredible and epic stories Zack Snyder was planning to tell, and could've told if he was allowed to come back and incorporate his writing with all of the heroes and villains we've gained since Joss Wheadon's Justice League. Now Superman Legacy could be great, or it could be a flop. I personally believe it's going to flop as hard as The Flash, but I could be wrong, we'll just have to wait and see. But at this point, unless they decide to restore Snyder's original vision and story, and mix it in with what's come before it, I'm pretty certain that the DCU is dead on arrival, whether it makes money to continue or not, I bet everything that it won't live up to what Zack Snyder was trying to make, because if Zack's movies have proven anything, it's that his DC movies just began at the wrong place and the wrong time.
Zack's movies would thrive nowadays.
yeay new video
Going with the DCU instead of the DCEU was a huge mistake.
Is Gunn's DCU to be or not to be? What will it be? A hard reboot, a soft reboot, does he himself even still know it? This 's my take on it: czcams.com/video/t5sh5cFYOv8/video.html
I think Gunn needs to keep quiet. Him responding to comments doesn’t help. He can just announce officially to everyone how the dcu is going to start and who is in it etc, like Kevin did. Just do it one time. Simple.
Some of the "General Audiences" including myself aren't going to view it the way you are and we want to see the vision in full. It's not as confusing as you're choosing to make it but aside from that James Gunn is trusting the writing and filming. Nit picking before hand doesn't help encourage new audiences. Its similar to Deadpool in my book because recasting isn't always necessary. You're moving the line for your narrative when we've already seen it.
You’re not a part of the general audience if you’re watching a video like this.
🚨 No Confusion, multiverse, different version.
🚨One year break then open with Superman may work well.
I don’t agree with Gunn’s direction but I can see how it can work.
I have high hopes for a gunn superman film tbh
I agree, only a total reboot will work in my opinion. Anyway, let's see...😉
This guy is just a straight up liar and doesn't even know wtf is going on with his own universe. It's going to be a disaster.
Wow! You’ve taken all my thoughts and put in this video
I’m not okay with any of it. They have completely ruined the brand and I lost all interest. Gunn needs to shut up and stop talking. He keeps making it worse. I’m over the whole fiasco and am tired of it. As a DC fan since the 80’s, I am so saddened by the way my dc has been treated
They ruined the brand that’s bigger than a set of movies?
okay, first of all, i see the future of DCU just like Fox X-men where nothing is canon or make sense, but they keep making movies.. it's going to be same for Gunn's DCU. also about Amanda Waller, he's keeping her but not henry's superman Amanda was in DCEU Suicide Squad then she was in his Suicide Squad and i not Gunn did change her character little bit for his movie then Ayer's movie so why can't he do the same Henry's Superman if he thought Henry's Superman wasn't right ? if he can change Amanada Waller for his version they he could have don't the same with Henry's Superman too
There is nothing confusing than X men universe followed by dceu and dcu😂
I remember I once tried to watch all x men movie to see connection till today I don't understand a thing just when you think you are done here comes Logan...dark phoenix.. so confusing
@@Nyota..e so right 😁😁
@@Nyota..e I know.. it was one of the confusing universe. I give up on that universe long time ago .. and i see the same for Gunn's DCU 🤦♂️🤦♂️
5:51 Possibly even angry.
If Superman Legacy fails I really wonder what will happen. Will they go crawling back to Henry or swallow their pride and soldier on lol
I think Gunn Makes wonderful movies & Stories, but only time will tell indeed if his vision isn't gonna be as great as Snyder, but I totally agree about the confusion that's happening & I only wish if he Perceived this in a different way... like in the comics for example, there are multiple storylines & universe's sometimes, so why not keep the DCEU as a form of Elsewhere kinda situation & have Snyder & other filmmakers like Ayer & everyone loyal to this amazing dark vision going, while he continues with his own vision in a different timeline with different characters or even some same & some not, like Multiverse of Madness movie, & either way, the profits will be okay, Bec ppl have proved along history of cinema how they can create great achievements & fetes of movies with lesser budgets, in case WB is so worried they're gonna get Bankrupt or something!
Exactly all he has to do is say "Zack and David will have a place to continue their visions in DC Elseworlds. And the Ayer Cut is coming shortly after Creature Commandos".
Not really understanding why people are so confused with this. Batman‘s parents will still be dead. That’s a plot point that may be the same. John Cena is going to play peacemaker in this new universe. That’s a character that is the same but the story behind it is not going to be consistent. What is confusing about this!? Nothing. I think people just don’t wanna understand or agree.
We have no reason to believe anything Gunn says at this point. What a sh!t show!
Can we wait till stuff come out and are people just slow James Gunn Specifically said who’s going who’s staying and it make sense Henry cavils Superman wasn’t working they gave him a solo movie everyone hated, gave him a Batman Vs movie everyone hated gave him a justice league twice people hated it and even after that gave him a black Adam cameo people didnt even go see it but all of a sudden people want him back so he’s Gone, all previous justice league members are gone,Peacemaker was great critically and broke a hbo max record so makes sense he stays(don’t knew where the fake hate for that show came from), and we are still waiting for justice league to be casted outside of Superman pretty simple to remember that no confusion at all
I do agree DCEU and DCU should be completely separate they say it's a reboot it is not a reboot is you start over everything completely new characters and stories James Gunn says DCU it is a complete reboot but really he is keeping and removing things he personally like and dislike
Maybe it’s fine. General audience can catch up pretty quickly. Whether they use old actors or new, shouldn’t really confuse. Marvel did it as well in the beginning.
Exactly they did it with Incredible Hulk nobody was confused than
Maybe not confuse but certainly anger.
Oh yeah long term they should be good. Right now they need customers and they're struggling to bring them in. Confusing or alienating audiences at the start is the struggle.
@@OurMovieNewsAnd they've already alienated a big chunk of that potential Auidence by not doing Man of Steel 2.
Just for peple to know the incredible hulk had new cast no one from the first hulk movie was back except for stan and the actor who played hulk in the past so marvel went for it all not a soft reboot and you have to remember it was just a single movie
We are talking about many stories here
I think it wont matter because peacemaker show didn’t do that well so John cena staying won’t really effect the failure same to blue beetle and waller
DAMN!! how hard it is it copperhead what is saying its very simple
A fat kid waved his hand and made 3 Spider-Men appear and nobody was confused. I don’t think they will be confused here..
Apples to oranges comparsion pal.
@@jturner2577 bro stop with the gatekeeping it’s pathetic
Gunn is showing again and again that being a great director (as I believe he is) does not mean he is good as CEO. I think he screwed all the DC movies of this year when he announced the new universe in the beginning of the year, and now he is making sure NOBODY will watch Aquaman 2, reinforcing that "Aquaman is not canon and it's a dead end". Any chances the movie had to have a different outcome from the others is gone. Secondly, start the new universe with Creature Commandos is a TERRIBLE mistake. That will certainly flop horribly. Zero appeal. Third, as you said, keeping some actors in the same rolls is just confusing. If he likes them so much, keep them in different rolls. Put Cena to be Shazam, Xolo to be Nightwing, for example. But I guess all the hopes are in Superman Legacy. We must hope that it's a huge success, otherwise all will be doomed and his head will roll soon enough.
I'm convinced this whole G*nn DCU chapter is a WBD "pump-and-dump" scheme.
Gunn seems soooo sure he’ll get proper funding for any of this… WB is $50B in debt lmfao
I think he's been given funding. The issue is if he doesn't make money at the box office, WBD may not give him anymore money or restrict how much he can spend.
@@OurMovieNews If he was then this is reckless on WB'S behalf.
I suppose these are confusing times. But Snyder isn't.
Gunn picking and choosing which characters are recast and plot points remain is a recipe for disaster in my opinion.
So: take the shit (cavill, affleck, ayer, birds of prey, and so on) and let the good stuff (gunn's suicide squad, peacemaker, a better superman, a better batman, may gal gadot, for sure xolo with blue beetle). What's the doubt in this? The bucket office? We need a better DC brand universe
Because we've already seen those characters I tract with one another and now we're supposed to accept that characters and plot points from the old DCEU are overlapping with what's supposed to be a new universe? Quit riding Gunn's d*** so much.
@@orlandoacosta2631 Snyder was better? Lol
@@DekeSimmons1 when did I mention Snyder? I'm just pointing outbhow messy this whole DCU is. Gunn should have just done a hard reboot and not carry over baggage from the previous franchise. Learn how to read, genius!
WHY CANNOT HE JUST DO A HARD REBOOT AND START FRESH ?
WHAT PROBLEM HE IS HAVING IN STARTING FRESH ?
Not that hard to understand.
Yes I get what James Gunn is saying but at the same time people aren’t going to be invested in a new version of characters without learning about them yoy just throw audiences into an already established universe with fully established characters that don’t need to be i through any character growth then people are going to care about these new versions. Yes we have seen them a lot but that’s why origin stories are important especially at the beginning
The MCU gets a pass when it comes to Spider-Man but his Trilogy was the Origin Story for MCU Spider-Man.
@@jturner2577 yea but people still complain and say it’s ok for spiderman even though that was only fine because of the complaints of his spiderman being to reliant on tony stark. Where as that was Snyder’s plan all along with Superman but in that case it’s not ok because “it shouldn’t take that long for ab origin story”
@@brandoneye8516The double standards.
@@jturner2577 100 percent
im still not interested on his universe. I never going to support it. unless if it looks cool, but what I know about his plan, I dont like it at all.
Why don’t we all just, I don’t know, wait to see what Gunn has to offer and THEN form an opinion? I know, I know, stupid thought. Just thought I’d throw it out there.
How many times should we give "reboot" a chance. This is perhaps the third in 10 years.
Hiring James Gunn to reboot the DCU after ZSJL is the equivalent of trading Michael Jordan away for Stephen A. Smith after the Bulls won the championship...
Huh
#restorethedamnsnyderverse #dceu #pamambdi #deluca #forautumn #waynetcarr #boycottwb #firejamesgunn #trinity
@@AhamedMohammed507shut up man
everyone knows Gunn is going to turn DC into a comedy show, that's what he does best. He doesn't know how to make serious characters. His style and tone go against the very core of what DC is about. Fans want to see dark serious movies like ZSJL. Just look at the animated DC movies, they're even darker and the DCAU is the most celebrated.