Are You Depressed About Your Symptoms?
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- Are You Depressed About Your Symptoms?
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If there was a Nobel prize for doggedness and power of persuation, this guy would win it hands down. He didn't give in and he refuses to give up on us.
Very humbled by your words. Thank you.
Dan I was so depressed in my 15 plus yrs of chronic pain especially the 3 yrs bedbound was the worse! I’m not really a depressed person but because of the severity of the pain I had no hope until I learned about Dr Sarno and your daily videos then joining your Coaching Calls! I couldn’t do this alone I needed your guidance and the love and support of the Community! Exactly what you said I had HOPE and left with sadness and then slowly that left too when my MINDSET shifted and my symptoms decreased and I started having JOY! Implement, implement, implement this is the WAY OUT! I have HOPE and JOY and I’m living my life over 10 diagnoses they will all fade away when you neutralize the fear! Thank you Dan and Finny for showing up in the videos❤️
Thank you for sharing your experience Annie. I'm thrilled to be a part of your journey back to living. Keep at it.
@@PainFreeYou
❤️ yes I will! Thank you 🙏
Giving us all extra hope Annie. Thanks
Also I totally agree on depression. I don’t think it’s a disease but it’s a coping strategy our body uses to suppress feelings. Maybe because we weren’t allowed to be ourselves as a kid so to survive we shut down, or maybe because we have so much stress and pain our body shuts down to help us, it’s a nervous system state called deactivation.
@@1STBUCKLEY
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Trust the process! What if it all works out? You’ll be fine good luck but you won’t need it because you will be calm and your thoughts will say I’m SAFE and LOVED❤️
Whilst you can breathe there's hope ❤️
YES
A few months ago I was in a deep, dark hole. The darkest hole I've ever been in with no hope and literally frozen with fear. What got me out was learning to find safety. I started praying and asking for help. That helped me alot and I haven't stopped praying. Now my prayers are mainly full of gratitudes. Finding safety at first was hard, but I stuck with it by telling myself I'm safe, surrendering control, connecting to the outside world (time in nature) and finding gratitude for what I did have. It felt like a battle, but I made it through. I'm still moving through my recovery but I have so much more hope than I did and joy actually is showing up more for me these days.
This is all wonderful to hear Ginger. Thrilled for you. You are on the right path.
I discovered you two weeks ago. The first thing to lift was the depression. I’ve even had people tell me I look happier. I still hurt but I have so much hope.
Hope heals.
I feel like I’m in a constant battle with my mind. Have struggled with depression and anxiety for many years. It’s very daunting, but doable. When my flares lift, my mood improves, so I know they coincide with one another. Trying to stay as positive as possible. It is a choice, isn’t it? I can’t believe you’re almost at 4 years with daily videos, Dan! Truly a remarkable
feat! You go! Really thankful for you sharing your experience, strength, and Hope with us all. You’re influencing my life for the better. Very excited to be able to get more help by you adding additional group times. It’ll be great, and very helpful, to be able to call in extra times during the week. Feed the brain with so much recovery it’ll have no choice but to let go and get better!🍀
It's been shown that depression is not caused by low serotonin levels. They knew there was no significant evidence when the first SSRI was released. Dr Rachel Zoffness, a pain psychologist, goes a little more in depth in some of her interviews on CZcams. But when depressed it does take more effort to do this persistently. Or maybe it just feels like it? I did notice right off the bat, that I felt better mentally before feeling feeling better physically, using these techniques. It is a struggle, because of the despondency.🤚❤
So true, the body follows the mind
Yes, the mindset must shift first before symptoms catch up.
Definitely been depressed for 3 years now since all the symptoms and anxiety and just that loss of purpose or drive. Hope everyone is feeling better today.
You can get well.
This was really needed today. Thanks Dan. Feeling very low. I know that once this flare passes, my spirits will lift, but because of my history, my low mood scares me in and of itself. It’ll get better. Thanks again Dan ❤
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You will get better.
You definitely will feel better, Alison, as the flare dissipates. One moment, one day at a time. Hang in there, love. It’s ALL going to be ok. You’re safe, you’re wonderful, you’re not broken, and neither am I. Love ya
Amazing Alison remember your Mindset about 2-3 weeks ago you had such a huge WIN you said I feel normal I feel great! Go back and watch that WIN and remember how your Mindset was how you felt. You will never go back to square one you know too much about this process and Perceived Danger! You are having a dip but as Dan says this is the biggest opportunity to teach/show Mrs Brain your Safe, your OK and your not Broken. You will get back to baseline again!
Love you! You are going to be fine Mrs Brain is perceiving danger and the best response is to stay CALM, messages of safety and calm reassurance and it will not last long! ❤️
The only way is up and you will do an about turn. Wishing you all the best. You can do this
You must have ESP Dan! I had three glorious days last week and I actually felt happy. Then for some reason last night, boom, symptoms were back in a big way. I really appreciate the empathy that flows through you because it can and is brutal at times. I really tried to stay calm and surrender to the pain, by that I mean is to simply accept it with calm indifference but I failed! Just curled up in a ball and cried. Today’s video really helped me to get back on track and remember that the feelings that cause TMS are not always conscious. Trust the process.
Glad to be able to help Peggy. We all have those days.
I believe god sends a few angels to earth, you are one, thank you
Sometimes, I feel broken because I'm trying, but the pain is still there,I thought I was doing okay, then boom, it's back as soon as I say I'm having a good day. I feel defeated 😞
That's the normal journey through this stuff. Stick with it. Doing okay is PROOF that you can get well. The fact it came back is only proof that the brain perceived danger. Being defeated ensures it sticks around longer. KNOW you are well. My fast start playlist will map it out for you.
DansFastStart.com
Thanks. I'm listening to them and trying.
I’ve dealt w/ depression & anxiety off & on my whole adult life. It “runs in my family” I was told. But deep inside I felt like that wasn’t 100% true. Totally accepting I have TMS in April, joining the group & listening to you Dan I no longer get depressed the way I used to. I get down sometimes but it’s doesn’t last more than a day. I remember having sky high symptoms one day but I forced myself to walk in the woods, as I came out an overwhelming sense of hope warmed my heart. I physically felt terrible in that moment but I KNEW it was going to be ok. I still have symptoms & anxiety but I have so much hope. It’s no longer a matter of IF abut WHEN (tho I’m not looking a the clock.) I trust it will come. Implement, implement, implement.
Thank you Dan. You’ve changed my life!
This is wonderful and evidence that hope is a valid cure for depression. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Thanks Dan! I 💯 agree on the note on depression meds. Our health care (or is it sick care…) system is built on wrong foundation but that’s a whole different story and topic... The good news is that I’m slowly starting to feel better thanks to implementing what you’re teaching and reps, reps, reps!
Wonderful Kersten. Keep at it!
Wow what an incredibly supportive & promising message. Really needed to hear this today! So reassuring. I went down so many rabbit holes & created so much misinformation in my brain & "thought" all manner of things were "wrong"...as always your simple, clear & consistent message repeatedly gives hope...as does reading other people's stories of recovery & endurance...so grateful to you all...and Finny!! Saying "thank you" Dan seems such an understatement for who you are & what you give every single day. Bless you.Xx
My pleasure Josie.
Tired, in pain, worried, lonely but still alive - just.
Just us enough. Onwards you will go. Our bodies are phenomenal. Wishing you all the best
@@1STBUCKLEY Thanks
You’re not alone. My heart sings the same song many days. ❤ We both are alive and moving forward together. ❤️🩹
Finn didn't relate to today's topic - he left the chat! Thanks Dan, you've hit the nail on the head again.
haha - yeah. A quick hello and off he went.
The Best thing for depression is Gratitude. Just learn to be thankful for Everything You DO Have. Sometimes even being aware that you can be thankful for your next breath. I have actually had to go there..but once you start seeing things to be grateful..more will Come and pretty soon you will be feeling a little better. Don’t focus Too Much on the future..that is just a form of Wanting. Try to Be grateful for what is in the Present! I have been suffering for 30 years. I finally found TMS! I Have Great Hope!
Wonderful comment. Thank you for sharing your insight.
It is really lonely position to be in. I’m young , my body looks healthy but I am in chronic pain for 4 years. People around me think I should visit real specialists, like i haven’t tried them all during all those years…. What also dosn’t help is that my parents reproach me everytime I have bad flare up and i hate it. I didn’t choose this pain! They explained to me it is only initial reaction which comes out of their frustration and despair with my case and they empathize with me…
I'm sorry you are struggling. A good place to begin understanding pain and the path out of pain is: www.PainFreeYou.com/start
I love your genuine sincerity ❤ between your constant reminders and Journaling, there is a way forward. Sometimes it's tiring, so much work. Why can't I be like others who don't feel pain when life gets rough.
You can, your brain just hasn't been convinced you are already okay. It's our job to teach the brain that fact. czcams.com/video/eAKBZ8u-rx4/video.html
The weighing scales of, Hope & Depression can be recalibrated
YES
Medical procedure on Tues so today restricted diet (I am getting fearful) starts, tomorrow liquid only. trying to do an hour at a time before I have to take clear out meds 🙄. Maybe I'll start seeing it as a flush out of PDP and TMS. Happy Sunday folk.
Good Luck PB stay calm everything always works out! Expect the Best! ❤️
Good luck. Trust the body to sail through this just fine.
Good luck PB - trust in the process ❤
Thank you, thank you, Dan! This made my morning! ❤
Any time!
Thank-you Dan for the daily videos. Always giving great advice, guidance and hope. Love yah and take care.
Thank you Jimmy.
Thank you, Dan, We are not alone That is my Hope and Grattitude
Definitely not alone.
Thank you Dan i appreciate your videos so much.
I was sick with the flu, which made things so much worse.
, suffering from pain but even more from chronic dizzyness.
I really tried to fix the depression and anxiety but now I see things differently after watching this video.
Good stuff.
No not depressed but very very angry and yes, nobody sees that I am in pain and nobody understands and yes I am in a dark Forrest without seeing the exit . I do have hope that I can be better just very impatient today grrrr
Impatience is not your friend.
@@PainFreeYou no definitely not
Ive been fired from 2 jobs for my health. I have suspected eds and have had chronic abdo pain for years from my beta blockers which I just come off. I needed you to tell me this. I want to find hope so badly and I know my own head makes me worse. I have no job now, no prospects, and maybe with this I can sort myself out and get myself on the right path again. Thank you
Hey Alice. Interesting enough, I have a success story for someone who was told she had EDS and is doing great now. Check it out:
czcams.com/video/keJ_bDf-vWQ/video.html
Wonderful, helpful, promising message, Dan! Thanks bunches! You were dynamite on Jen Johnson’s show, Dan! Loved it!!
Thank you Cheryl.
Thank you Dan for what you do for us, giving so much of yourself to help us to heal. God bless you xxx
Thank you.
This needs to watches and rewatched
Thank you Jackie.
Love your kitty,,😊
Hi Dan. We think different and that's good because I'm not teaching this stuff to anybody thank God and you are thank God. I wanted to share something with you and it's why I'm hesitant to believe and swallow this entire concept hook line and sinker. I'm going to tell you what happened and then you can see it was not Danger perceived and fear. I wear a CPAP machine cuz I was choking all during the night for 10 years as soon as I put the machine on the choking stopped instantly because I wasn't getting enough oxygen. Then about 3 months ago I started getting migraines in the middle of the night and I'm listening to you and I'm doing all the things, changing my perspective my perception etc the best I can and just gently moving in a different direction. but the migraines persisted. To make a long story short I found out that I wasn't using the humidifier in the CPAP machine and I was using a small ceramic heater that I had basically blowing on my body at night. So I spoke to the respiratory therapist who's been doing this for 35 years and she said okay the reason you have the migraines is you need to get rid of that heater completely, you can't have dry heat. And start using the humidifier in the CPAP machine see if you're migraines don't go away. After 2 days of doing that the migraines have never come back. So here's what concerns me, how can you say that all of the stuff including schizophrenia and the different things you bring up are all a response to perceived Danger? This was a real situation and by fixing a couple of things the migraines are now gone. So to me that isn't any belief system change that I made it was an actual physical medical call it what you want reality. I'm not trying to be a pain in your butt I would like you to address things like this. Another one I'm going to bring up because I'm concerned what do and how do I move forward with pain free you. I'm always choking on my food so of course I decided that I am going to look at this as some type of perceived danger response, and fear etc. But then an MRI was done and an ultrasound was done on my throat area and on my thyroid is a mass pretty large. And it's blocking the trachea and the esophagus and that's why I keep choking on food all the time because it's restricted my ability to swallow. Now what the treatment is for that I have no idea yet and I'm certainly not going to do anything that's invasive or what have you cuz I don't believe in that. But what do you say Dan about issues that I am talking to you about? They're not in my head. I want to think they're in my head that's a much better way for me to proceed so I can change it. But a mass growing on my thyroid, not a lot I can do about that. If you would at some point answer or explain how you deal with things that are real and I hear you all the time every day say we all think things are real but they're not but what if they are?? Thank you so much Dan I appreciate what you're about.
Hey Kavita:
Some great points and interesting topics for discussion.
I still maintain that any type of symptoms is based on the brain perceiving danger.
Sometimes the danger is in our subconscious unaware to us.
Sometimes it is in our conscious mind and we are aware of it.
Sometimes the danger is an actual threat.
Sometimes the danger is not a real threat and just perceived.
My recommendations to my coaching clients are to: 1. Rule out anything serious, life threatening. Cancers, tumors, fractures, infectious disease. 2. Next we rule IN this thing called TMS/Perceived Danger Pain or Symptoms. We do that by seeing how the symptoms are behaving.
Pain or symptoms created by the brain behave differently than symptoms that are from a true issue.
To your issues: The CPAP machine was not being used correctly with humidity. The migraines were a warning signal that something was amiss. Same with the ceramic heater. The migraines were a warning signal.
But why a migraine? Why not a dry throat or dry skin? The brain sensed the danger and the warning signal was the migraine. Perhaps the brain felt a more significant “warning” was required, thus the migraine. Once the “problem” was resolved, the brain decided that the danger was gone and the “warning” signal (the migraine) was no longer required to keep you safe.
The way I see it, the migraine was still in response to danger the brain was perceiving. In your case, changing the use of the CPAP humidifier and turning off the heater allowed the brain to turn off the alarm system.
Regarding the mass in your thyroid, the coughing was still based on the brain perceiving danger which caused you to find out about the mass. The warning system is working perfectly.
As for your path moving forward, there are cases where medical intervention is important and required. In general, even in cases where we need a medical treatment, trusting the body and the process and not adding any unnecessary fear (perceived danger) can always result in a better outcome than fueling the brains perception of danger with a fearful response.
Calm always is a better strategy whether there is a legitimate medical issue or not.
Hope this makes sense.
~Dan
@@PainFreeYou WoW Dan thank you so much for such a well-thought-out and perfectly concise explanation of the entire issues at hand.
I Love this response. I will treasure it and save it. It makes sense on every level.
Dan I truly appreciate you unraveling this for me. ALWAYS BETTER TO BE CALM no matter what.
Have a beautiful day 💐
@@kavitadeva Thanks Kavita. Took a few days for my thoughts to percolate a bit and put together this response. Glad it makes sense to you.
Agree science also agrees
Thank you for
Daily Dan messages of Hope!!
My pleasure Pia.
Implementing, Implementing, implementing Dan!! Thank you for all of these great videos! Off to play Pickleball!
Have fun! Hope you are victorious.
DR. SARNO SAYS DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY ARE EQUIVALENTS TO TMS. THEY REPLACE PHYSICAL PAIN NOT ACCOMPANY IT. HE GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF THIS SWITCH IN HIS BOOK THE MINDBODY PRESCRIPTIOn. DR. SCHUBINER ALSO SAYS THE SAME THING. IS THIS WRONG?
Well my severe anxiety definitely followed pain to begin with. Now pain can set the fear off higher and kickstart the anxiety, loop the loop. So changing the mindset data definitely interrupts the loop.
While Sarno may have said anxiety and depression are equivalents, I don't believe they are mutually exclusive. I have met many people with anxiety, depression AND pain.
@@PainFreeYou 💯!
I needed this today, thank you 😊
So glad!
Thank you Dan! 🙏😊
My pleasure!
Champion 🏆
Thank you.
Thank you❤️
You’re welcome 😊
When I took anti depressants Dan it fixed my mood which then got rid of the pain symptoms, but the anti depressants didn’t fix the long covid thing, or it maybe only helped a tiny bit
In my opinion, the solution for TMS is safety. If medication helps you to feel safer, it may provide a benefit. In my experience, much of "long covid" is a response to the brain perceiving danger. Have you tried to apply a TMS approach to the symptoms called "long covid"?
@@PainFreeYou I watch all ur videos Dan and they make feel confident and better, it takes time to feel that 24/7. I want to be able to do it for my self, I can’t have you with me 24/7 lol
@@ezza1236 Haha
@@PainFreeYou well technically I can if I watch youre videos all day long
What do you think about using mushrooms for getting rid of depression and anxiety.
I don't have any knowledge about that. But I do know that with better thinking, we can get rid of anxiety and depression without them. czcams.com/video/GBecoK2k93k/video.html
So Dan or anyone reading ...
Painful eyes or like burning type feeling eyes /sore . Os this a symptom many have had... and that
dissolved away ??
Shucks
Pain anywhere in the body can be TMS. Have you taken the pain test specific to your eyes? YourPainTest.com If it indicates TMS, then you can get rid of it for sure. Even if the eyes don't score terribly high on the pain test, there is zero downside to the approach I suggest.