Here in Germany, if you're just neglectful and come to the job drunk, it can be a reason for termination. But if you can prove that you're medically addicted, your doctor can prescribe you to go to the rehab clinic. The cost will be covered to a great extent by your health insurance and during your time off from work you will still receive 100% salary for up to 6 weeks. After the 6 weeks the salary will decrease in steps. If your salary becomes so low that you can't sustain yourself, you can file for government aid. Job termination based on a medical condition is tied to very strict conditions in Germany, which make it almost impossible to be fired for it.
Not really, they can fire anyone for any particular reason (unless it's discrimination of course). The difference is that they will have to give you more money if they don't have a solid reason. There are 2 main reasons: economical (they need to declare it to the administration and prove that they are in trouble) and for a grave mistake (fault you made that range from costing a lot to the company to the death of someone). In both cases, the employer won't be penalized. And in the second one, you won't get unemployement benefits. The same idea apply to you btw. You can't just leave like that. You have about 1 to 4 month after your notice depending on your contract. Also, without a valid reason you may not be eligible to employement benefits.
In france, you can't just get fired with no reason. Employers will pretty much keep you on indefinitely. Of course, this means that employers really don't want to hire people so the job market is quite competitive.
@@manoo2056 doesn’t sound fun when most French people are taxed 30% at 28k which I got that info from impots,Gouv an official French tax bracket site plus some of the most extra add on taxes in the world which take a giant chunk of your income when they’re all combined and compounding (US has far less) all to get the worst doctor shortage in Europe which I got that info from many sites including French 24 a state media outlet who says “OECD says France has 3.4 doctors out of 1,000 people which is way worse than in Spain, Greece, Germany, Ireland, Italy, one of the worst in the developed west.
@@benoitlamirault6456 Please stop throwing random statements out the window. Just say what is wrong, and how... Or say you don't know, but you object to the idea that France isn't awesome.. I mean they have like 1/100th the immigration of the US... CLEARLY people are just lining up to get into France... right?
Why should i be loyal to a corporation in the first place. Goes against the American mantra of freedom right? I thought the US had done away with monarchies.
It is the best place. The world exists due to the US. Marshall plan after WWII, we rebuilt France. They owe us the ground they walk on. Let’s not forget in 1942 France was a part of Germany. No USA, then France would have been just a fading memory. Why are immigrants coming from all over the world to USA? Beta mentality you have.
@napoleon1992 Except it's not. As an American, you have rights, and an employer is required to tell you why you're being released. You can not be fired because they don't like you or because they feel like it. If they fire you and you're too stupid to know your rights, that's your fault.
In France it is very very difficult to get fired other than economical reasons. The law is very protective with workers. The bad side of it is that employers hesitate a lot to hire people....
Except this kind of contract is now pretty rare and most people are working through temporary contracts so it might not be firing but not renewing the contract, so it's actually pretty easy to lose your job in most cases.
@@littlestarshepherdI wouldn’t say most people are. Probably a bias you’ve developed specific to your particular industry. Yearly contracts are very common in teaching for example.
Yes. You are very fortunate IF you get the job. I was working an internship at a tech French company and they always treated me well, they loved how I worked, the salary was above average for an internship, never made me work a single extra hour, but when I asked to be formally hired as an employee they kept me in suspense for a month until they finally told me they wouldn't hire me. Something about "not having the budget" yet they hired 3 new engineers right after I left lol probably because they were french and I was a foreigner. French bureaucracy when it comes to work permits is a nightmare.
@@littlestarshepherdI don't know the sector you are talking about but in engineering, energy, research there's a lot more long term contracts (CDI) than limited term contracts (CDD). It's important to know that even for CDDs the law is quite specific and they can only be used for replacing some sick, maternity leave, a temporary growth of load work, etc
I’d say this is a perspective thing… not all employers are heartless and just can people without notice or cause. Please base your decisions on your own life experience, not random internet advice! I’d give notice because I’m NOT an asshole…
Remember kids, there's a lot of stupid advice on the internet. When employers do reference checks, they typically only ask if you are "eligible for rehire." If company policy is to give two weeks notice and you don't, they may mark you ineligible for rehire. During a reference check, for legal reasons, the company will only answer "yes" or "no" to the eligible for rehire question and will give no additional clarification. So if you leave without notice, you may be playing yourself.
@@jkc2188 I've given two week's notice to two jobs I quit, and both jobs immediately took me off the schedule the following week, so not everyone is like you.
I miss working for non-US companies. Having worked before at German and Australian companies, I miss the better "work to live" culture, ample holidays (the 1/2 of December month was a paid holiday!), and fewer days working 12+ hours.
Another thing that happens here in the US, when an employer doesn't want you anymore, they keep pushing you to the limits. They low-key mistreat you. They skrew with your schedules, they load you with work, they do anything so they can corner you to quit, and their hands are clear🤷🏻♀️ Or... laying off... the famous lay off. Many people (majority) never come back from getting laid off.
Yup. My husband was laid off during a mass layoff from Lockheed, they targeted employees with enough tenure to have sway over the looming union strike, but not enough tenure to have the resources to mount a massive lawsuit. He made well over $30 per hour during regular shifts, and worked overtime almost every weekend (they NEED employees who work overtime). He hasn't been able to find a job paying more than $22/h since then, and the layoff happened in 2021. He even signed a contract with them that ensured he'd be eligible for reemployment by them after a 12 month period, and his attempts to get rehired have been for not, while they've lowered their new hire wage from $21/h to $17/h, at least at this location. They won't rehire him because they know they could hire two people for slightly more than they'd have to pay him. 🫠 Two of his close friends were protected from the mass layoff because they were injured on the job and a huge lawsuit risk, so he's kept up to date about everything happening there.
@@The_king567 at a certain company I worked for and was discussing union practices with, I was one of the active people put on freezer duty, with no good PPE (no gloves, no matter how much we asked for them), despite having communicated to them that I've had frostbite in the past making my hands freeze very quickly. Technically, none of this is illiegal. And they were ultimatley able to fire me for missing work during my college finals period despite my communicating to them I would have to miss work for my finals (This is a something they will tell you to do), but they could just fire me for going past my attendance limit.
As a chronically ill person who lives in US, this is very accurate. Then, when you are homeless because no one will hire you because of your illness, you are criminalized and told to get a job.
I work with tenants in USA. I am working with a veteran who has long COVID and has not been able to work for 1 1/2 years. In order to get her assistance, she has to be within fifteen days of imminent homelessness. The main place in town that “helps” veterans literally dumped / closed her advocacy case when she was within fifteen days of imminent homelessness. So she is getting evicted after June 15th. The agency told her the case would be closed May 31st. This is the insanity of social services in the USA 🇺🇸.
Gosh really?! And you can't have any public financial help for your disease? Where I live (french speaking side of Belgium) if your disability is recognized as such, you have the right to get income replacement benefits as well as an access to programs that can help you find a job adapted to your disability. It's not a lot of money, but at least you can pay rent and the necessary
@@Ixc795 Yes, I get no help whatsoever. I wish my area had such programs. My last job wouldn’t even make adjustments that they were legally required to do. They said quit or sue them, which I can’t since I can’t afford a lawyer.
I've just found out that in the US, insulin costs $35 A SHOT 😱 Here in France it's completely free as well as treatments for a number of other life-threatening conditions.
Isn't it per vile of insulin, or more? Still, it is horrible. Biden capped insulin for the elderly at $35.00 a month and wants to do this for everyone and will if the House and Senate are majority Democrats.
And that's something that only happened here recently! I have a friend that for years struggled to afford his insulin and would legit ration it. It was an endless cycle of too sick to hold a full time job because he couldn't afford his insulin which meant no insurance which meant he would stay too sick to work. When I say recently I mean like in the last 2 years.
Ne pensez pas que c'est gratuit. La sécurité sociale est financée avec les impôts des contribuables. Chaque mois, nous avons des cotisations qui sont prélevées sur nos salaires. Donc non ce n'est pas gratuit.
In the US it is actually to the employer's benefit to not explain why they fired someone, because if they do and they get sued, they actually have to defend it. If they give no reason then they can make up what ever they have the strongest support for to protect themselves. The fact in the US we are expected to give notice about leaving a job, but employers can just let you go at any point and offer you nothing is insane.
Expected doesnt mean mandatory, and if you have a brain you can contest the firing because of unlawful reasons, all you need to do is keep record of the conversations you have with employers and any contracts you might have signed. You are responsible for your own sucess and well being, stop looking to the government for the baby treatment when you live in a country of economic wealth and prsoperity, with unalienable human rights.
@@benrandom6053”All you need to do is keep a running log of literally everything you’ve ever done or said and everything your superiors have done or said over the course of your entire employment and also have enough funds to then file a lawsuit against an entity with a small army of lawyers that may take months to years to actually resolve. Also the government looking out for its citizens against abuses by corporations is them babying you.” 🤡
The idea that your employer should have ANY control over your healthcare is absolutely dangerous and insane. I don't know why America thinks this is in any way okay.
A health care insurance plan through an employer is a benefit that employers started offering a long tome ago to lure the best employees. It's always been up to an individual whether they participated in the plan their employer offered or purchase their own or not have any at all. It should always be a person's right to decide whether they want to buy health insurance or not... meaning the government should never force anyone to have it nor force anyone to pay for someone else's health insurance.
@@6point5grendelhave you ever been on Medicaid? I can’t attest as someone who’s sponsored my own healthcare, my Medicaid gave me far more options and covered more of my medical expenses than my $400/mo self-paid plan. It’s the ppl in the middle who get screwed the worst.
I'm french and honestly the fact that you can't fired easily people is so wrong. You have no solution to level up and no solution to leave your company when there is a problem and the company make you pay for it socially speaking... You have to pass so many interviews for them to trust you and they will never trust you... I would rather prefer pay healthcare with my own money.
In Canada we have a "probation period" (typically 3 months) where the employer is able to fire you for any reason (besides discrimination), and it's supposed to allow the employer to see if you're a good fit. Anything past 3 months, the employer has to have a good reason; I actually lost my first job at McDonald's 5 days before my probation period ended, and the reason they gave was basically "sorry, your anxiety is too bad, you're not a good fit for this environment." I can't imagine feeling the stress I feel during probation period for years at a time. Also, our healthcare is free whether you're employed or not, but your dental care can either be free or cheaper depending on where you work, and even then, not all places have dental benefits.
Healthcare in Europe is NOT free, we absolutely pay it all through taxes (some of them we don’t even notice). Please don’t be fooled. We pay waaay more than what we actually get
You don't feel the stress for years at a time. You will know pretty quick if you are going to work out at a place. also if your boss needs to keep telling you to stop doing things wrong or causing problems, that's a sign you might get fired. these things are not some mysterious surprise. people are just stupid and/or don't pay attention. all that is required is to do your job well. it's not complicated. also your health care is not free. nothing from the government is free. SOMEONE is paying for it. please try to understand that.
Very interesting! Actually it's similar in France, we also have this probation period, also usually for a few months Same thing goes with the dental care separated from other health care In fact, the country covers everyone with the "sécurité sociale", which will covers like 70-80% of your daily and emergency care, as well as almost all medicine a doctor prescribe you. Then you have a "mutuelle", some kind of private insurance that covers the remaining 20-30% for your daily cares. If you have a good one, it'll cover dental care and "non-medical" (in the sense that the ones who provide the care are not doctors) things, like psychology for example And if you don't have an job to set you up with one and don't have much money, the country will provide you the service
@@fencserx9423 unless you own your own business or are fortunate to get a good job in the US, you pretty much have to job hop to get any kind of pay raise. corporations don't give pay raises (or they give really low pay raises) to employees who they think they can keep around and exploit and most jobs aren't unionized so they take advantage of not being required by any union contract to give raises. turnover is really high in most places and if you look at the raises employees get, you can see why.
@@fencserx9423 also in the US, benefits are often shit. you pay out the ass for healthcare then still have to pay when you need to go to the doctor, dentist, or optometrist. i've worked for 2 european companies in America and both had great benefits, but the American companies i've worked for that weren't unionized had horrible benefits. people job hop often for the benefits because there are a few companies with actually good benefits.
@@fencserx9423. No, it is. I’m in a union because it makes it difficult to fire me for no reason (my physical appearance), as has been done many times in the past. Every US institution can kiss my whole a.
Hubs lost his job in January. Just got an offer yesterday. I have a medically complicated kid and now... a mountain of medical debt. Because America IS run by monsters.
America is not a democracy of, for and by the people. It is a for-profit corporation on the backs of the little guy. I'm really sorry fellow worker ant, but that country is not designed for you or me to do well. (that's why I left 20 years ago for Europe)
One of my workplaces shutdown an entire project to get rid of the teams working in it. The project was brought back after three months with same team names but with different people.
Give 2 week notices to jobs that respect you and you know you won't be walked off the job for giving notice. If the employer treats you like dog crap just walk away after securing a new job. "What about references?" A manager who treats you like crap isn't going to leave you a good reference anyway. If you treat the people you got along with well it could help you down the line in your career. Be strategic about it
In the UK references are simply a confirmation that you worked in a place. They don't really discuss behaviour unless there was bad behaviour that's on record
Well the monsters part is real when it comes to income… I shall know with up to a doctorate degrees, due to cancer treatment and side effects I went from living well to having no place to stay … and of course lost my job … I was 40 and 2 kids…. I rebuilt partly and slowly and had lost everything except my home this time 15 years later…I grew up in France so I am well aware of the difference…. Sometimes here pets are treated better than human being… I feel the same about people who fought for the USA.. they do not have enough when they are back home injured or with mental trauma. Definitely is THE part of USA which is treating hard working people very badly.
In the US, if you're not rich enough to own a congressman, then you're not a real citizen. You're a tool to be used, a product to be sold, and a mark to be preyed upon. You only have rights if you're a corporation.
I’m in America and I’m pregnant, struggling with some health issues that are so bad it’s hard to keep a job. I really want to move to France after watching a bunch of these videos 😅
Yes, and guess what? Those countries and employers (not US) are doing just fine. It doesn’t bankrupt a business to treat employees well, and it doesn’t bankrupt a nation to provide universal health care. We in the US are just brainwashed by the rich to think those are impossible goals.
I work at a big int’l company that just had big layoffs. When I logged on in the morning from Japan, the US people were already gone & their accounts deactivated same-day. EU people were notified & informed of their 1-2 month process & negotiation. JP people were told “people who are eligible for the employee assistance program will hear from their managers in the next 2 months.” Absolutely insane.
Yep! In the US most employees have what is called and at-will contract which is not really a contract. It is the opposite of a contract. In order to get the job we are forced to sign a document stating that we can be let go at anytime for any reason whatsoever and that the agreement we are signing is not a contract or guarantee of employment. The rest of the developed nations provide permanent work contracts for employees after 1 year...and legally they must offer that. Even if you work a retail job in a shopping mall you will have a contract. They cannot fire you for just any reason
I work for a multinational US-based company, and they recently began a round of layoffs. They sent an email to the whole company saying basically “managers will be informing people who have been laid off today, thank you and goodbye.” And about 5 minutes later we (in the EU) got a frantic email from our local HR saying basically “don’t worry!! He’s only talking to the Americans. You won’t get laid off without following the proper legal process. Please don’t sue us.”
...well, yeah. And then you have the other side of the coin when your work relies on someone else and that person is absolutely terrible and the employer can do exactly nothing about it. DX
@@PrincesseKes ...I'm not sure what you're talking about. First off, English is not my first language so while I am aware that "liberal" is a type of politics, I don't really know what kind. Just for clarification, though, I'm not talking about someone being bad at their job. I'm talking about being forced to pull the workload of two people, while being actively belittled and often yelled at, and sometimes having to pull an extra shift with zero notice (while having someone at home to care for, by the way) all because your co-worker is a raging bloody alcoholic who simply cannot be fired. I'm talking about having to survive *that* for 12 full years because you don't want to loose your job security. So... yeah. Health, indeed. DX
Oh, employers discriminate all the time. ",At will employment" is an excellent cover for getting rid of someone who would otherwise have grounds to sue. A certain big bank I worked for eliminated every pregnant woman/ new mother/ mildly disabled employee in a large department simply by crafting an attendance policy that targeted them. Somebody finally did sue--years later--and they settled. Everybody still went through a period of unemployment at a time when they were very vulnerable.
Yeah honestly the anti-discriminatory laws here are BS because an employer can simply... LIE. For example, if you interview really well but they don't want to hire a woman, they can just say "we didn't feel you'd be the best fit" and how are you supposed to prove it was discrimination?
Then how about this. We pass a law stating that women MUST have a valid reason to either break up with or divorce a man. No? They why would you want to force a business owner to stay in a relationship with someone that could be toxic or abusive, but not breaking the law? Business owners take a huge risk. Employees get paid no matter how well or bad the business is doing. The business owner might be living off of ramen during bad times to make sure he or she makes the payroll.
@@andrewpena9041Business owners have all the risk, true, but they also may get rich. That's what owning a business means. If you don't like the rules the state sets, become an employee, if that's so much better.
@@andrewpena9041business owner here - business owners get all the risk but also all the reward. They have to pay salaries, taxes, for stock and supplies etc., but business owners also get all the profit. When a bakery gets so successful it becomes a chain with 30 stores, is it the employees that get fancy cars and holiday homes? No. They get a salary. Business owners are the ones who have accumulated wealth, who can sell their company and live the rest of their lives on a beach in the Caribbean. When you decide to become a business owner, you are doing it for the possible rewards, and in exchange you accept the risk. Someone suffering the consequences of their choices is not a good enough reason to abuse their employees. That risk and consequence falls ON THE BUSINESS OWNER who made that choice. You don't get to go "I want a second holiday home so I'll just fire every pregnant person in the company so I don't have to deal with maternity leave," thats called unethical business practices. Businesses have a lot of power, they SHOULD be expected to be ethical and responsible. If you aren't willing to take risks, don't chase a very high risk occupation.
@@andrewpena9041if employment is a romantic relationship then employers are rich 80 year old men dating very young women they found on the street. I don’t think the employer should be complaining.
This is the difference between a pro-labor and pro-capital country when it comes to labor laws. Pro-labor, as the name implies, has preferential treatment towards workers, this is more typical for countries whose economies heavily rely on labor as France is reliant on its services sector.
As an Australian and an employer. I find it astounding that in the USA you can just fire someone! We have to give three verbal warnings and a written warning first. As for healthcare in the USA, terrible that everyone is not covered
@@lojan1990 yes and no. While they can technically let you go they still have to have a valid reason to do so. So the two common areas an employee can sue for being terminated is what is known as the implied contract exception. What this means is that the employee had a reasonable expectation to be employed for a period of time or indefinitley and how this gets established is lets say the employer has a history of only firing people on the basis of cause ie bad performance etc. This establishes an implied contract exception even more so if said fired employee had been there for a lengthy period of time. Another area an employee cab sue under is what is called implied covenant and good faith dealing which many states recognize and basically this covers being terminated in bad faith or because of malice. How you can sue for bad faith a primary example is lets say you got hired but 2 weeks later they fired you for no reason. You could sue for bad faith because unless you have expressely done something very wrong you have a reasonable expectation to be trained and be employed longer especially if it was not advertised the position is only for a very limited time period. Now unlike other countries even though you can successfully sue your employer for wrongful termination the justice system also cant force them to hire you back unless there was an actual contract in place in which case they can be forced to honor the contract.
Yup! And they expect a minimum of two week notice if you decide to quit. They try to make it sound like a necessity when it’s not (unless it’s in a signed job contract). I have seen people at various jobs of mine put in a two week notice and the employers were so spiteful, they were walked out that day so they got shorted on both two weeks pay AND unemployment.
J'ai vu plusieurs de tes vidéos, et j'admire ton habileté à parler comme une francophone qui parle anglais, ou une anglophone qui parle anglais, ou encore une anglophone qui parle le français. Bravo! (Francophone de l'Ontario, Canada.)
Also US: “as a courtesy to us and not at all for your benefit in any way, if you quit we expect you to stay for at least 2 weeks while we find your replacement. Otherwise you’ll never be allowed to work for us or any other company associated with us again.”
Got laid off 8 weeks ago. In Florida, umemployment is 275 a week, the same amount I got in 2012 the last time I got laid off. But my health insurance is 890 a month with a 6000 deductible and a 9400 max out of pocket.
how is that even LEGAL?? I'm an american, living in Germany for the past 18 years, with the occasional few years in America in between. I got hired by a German company, but I was physically unable to do the job so I was of course to let go. No hard feelings. My health insurance continued, but I did have to pay it myself and considering I had the high-end Insurance full coverage including dental and vision and my child on the plan they apologized that it was going to be 225 euros a month. Our unemployment benefit is something like 80% of what you were making, and while it can be difficult to get a tech job in Germany because there is a lot of competition, I was really only unemployed for about 12 weeks, and I started a new job last month. Being let go never feels good, but at least I didn't Panic knowing that Germany has safety nets for people, and you don't even have to be a citizen! ( I am eligible for a German passport, but I just continue with my residence permit because they only change the law this year that I would be able to keep my US Passport if I got a German one)
@@VioletteToussaint in theory, you're right. Voting should change something. But since America only has two major political parties, and they two sides of the same coin, it doesn't matter who you vote for, lobbyists and money are the ones who determine who the next president is. The people don't really have a choice, and even if they did, they're voting for basically the same person in a different color tie
@@user-ut7wz7mh2r I know that's more complicated than "just vote right". The voting system in itself is insane... But people could change things if they really demanded change, together. I'm not sure why this isn't happening, but I hope it will, because it's not healthy to have for example Presidents elected when they lost the popular vote. Shouldn't each vote have the same value? The hyperpolarized political landscape is also really concerning.
In USA pregnant women work until they give birth and have to go back to work after giving birth like tomorrow! You wanna live the American dream but in your dreams hahaha
I was let go at a job about 10 months ago. I was supposed to give them 30 days notice, I was given notice the day they came in and told me. Depending on which state you live in unemployment is not a given. It took me 9 months to find another job. Luckily I had some savings. I did not get healthy insurance (Medicaid) until after 6 months of being unemployed. It was a tedious process that took forever. I was afraid to drive my car anywhere because of lack of insurance. I had to get food from a food bank because my 20 year old son could not get a job. So I was buying groceries for him. I was also paying for his college tuition. It was a hard and difficult time. Oh and the job I did end up taking is only 1099 (contracted) work. I had to take it. The only salary position that would potentially be available to me would not have started until almost a year after my last job. The U.S. needs better labor protections.
It has WAY TOO MUCH labor protection. Kick your son out of the house. He couldn't get a job..bs ! Grow a pair and apply somewhere where isn't as appealing as you want. Then you work your way up. Lazy !
@@2stoves1 state run healthcare in most western nations is utter garbage. This has been established conclusively for any type of major injury, illness or disease: the USA is overwhelmingly better. Not to mention the sheer insanity of the taxes in those nations to offer socialized healthcare. This is why Europe is becoming africa 2.0
@@2stoves1 your "voluntary employer employee" relation is a big problem tho because it puts workers who f ex get pregnant, who are disabled, who are poor and need that job desperately,... at the pyre will of the employer to exploit them as they please
@@2stoves1 if that were the case, then how do you explain masses of precarious and poor people doing shitty jobs with lowest wages and under bad working conditions, being exploited for cheap labour, just because they need this job because state and society fail to offer them any better alternative. These contracts aren't truly voluntary, they're involuntary under the disguise of consent
@@2stoves1 why are women or migrantic ethnicities constantly in sn economically worse situation? You can say either they're on average less competent and dumber, or you can come to the conclusion that in fact individuals do not start with the same possibilities to acquire skills or use chances and possibilities or to do choices truly voluntarily. In fact, capitalism would collapse without the involuntary overexploitation of parts of our population
It's frustrating how some conservative-valued people in the US are so quick to call social safety nets like a one-payer medical plan "socialism". Anything that helps people they call "socialism"!
It's the same in most of continental Europe, I believe. I work in Prague (Czech Republic) and you can't be fired once you're on a permanent contract, except for redundancy or 3 warnings for major breaches.
Which country is it safest to be a Jew in? A: France B: United Kingdom C: Germany D: United States Hint: It's not located in Western Europe. Bonus: Which country can you NOT Get fined or arrested for speaking out against the cause of the destruction of Synagogues and the assault of Jewish persons? See list above. (edited for grammar)
@@andrewpena9041 Have you seen America lately? With attacks on mosques and Jews in general over Israel’s actions, I don’t thinks Jewish people feel very safe here.
@aurorethebore I worked Armed security at a synagogue for a year. It was my favorite post. Anyway, Jews here in America have the right to armed self-defense. Also, we don't have a tone of male combat age "refugees" coming from the middle east setting synagogues on fire and assaulting Jews. Furthermore our own government doesn't fine us for pointing out the cause of the problem. I'd rather be a Jew in a land where I can legally defend myself and my property with arms of my choosing.
I once got fired from my dishwasher job for trying to call off sick. Was working there for over a year, and it was my 1st time calling out. I even had a doctor's note that I was contagious, and not to work around food. Edit- I've been getting a lot of people questioning if this was true, and it absolutely is. I agree, doesn't make sense at all to fire someone you've been praising for over a year as your best dish washer, and is currently your only dishwasher after the other guy retired, just for calling out for the very first time with a 103 degree fever and a doctor's note. No, it's not illegal per se, because I live in a no fault state, but I did speak to a lawyer. He assured me I had a case, and that it was a guaranteed victory, but since I'd only just recently become full time, I hadn't made enough for the settlement to have been worth the lawyer fees. Even in no fault states, you can still sue if you're fired for discriminatory purposes, like being black, gay or sick. That's how these companies get away with it, because they know people aren't likely to spend thousands of dollars just to say they were right.
If you were full time, you had solid grounds for wrongful termination and could have collected unemployment. They would not have been able to fight it.
@@AkazajiSadly, I'd only recently become full time. It was a small mom and pop shop, and when I got hired they already had another dishwasher who 5 of the 6 days they were open, so I only worked 1 day a week. The owners and the 1 server always commented how they perfered the way I washed dishes though, since he usually would send stuff out still dirty with coffee and lipstick still on the mugs that had to be sent back to be re-washed, and my dishes always went out clean. He retired only a few weeks before I was fired, so I hadn't been full time long enough for a lawsuit to be worth it. I was assured I'd win, but the amount wouldn't even cover the lawyer fees.
I've tried explaining to my parents over and over that tying healthcare to your employer stifles the job market. People will take a crappy job they hate simply because it has decent benefits. If we had proper healthcare people would be less scared about starting their own business because not only would they have their own healthcare so would any employee they hire, instead of small business owners having to calculate what type of insurance they can provide and all the insane costs that come with it. Also people would able to work at jobs that they love that can't provide insurance due to the costs. And if you are between jobs you don't have to panic and grab the first thing you can find so that you can have insurance.
@@paulmcclung9383I wouldn’t compare Medicaid or Indian Reservation clinics since it’s not universal healthcare and is primarily aimed at low income individuals and treated more like welfare. However, I would like an assessment of all the countries on Earth that do provide government healthcare to all their citizens and residents and get an analysis of its pros and cons. Perhaps learn from their experiences to see if there is a way we can provide government healthcare and not have it totally suck. The way social services works in the US, a lot of it gets outsourced to really expensive contracts (privatized foster care, disability support services, etc.) I know someone whose parents provide disability support services to their county government in a major US city and they are millionaires. There’s something very wrong with the way we spend tax dollars here that could be reformed and improved. Not to mention privatized prisons and crazy expensive defense contracts. Our government outsources everything on very expensive contracts while very little of the actual funds go towards benefiting the actual beneficiaries of said services. If we can come up with an alternative that has nothing to do with government healthcare yet also removing healthcare benefits being tied to employment… we may find a real solution. Andrew Yang has been pushing for basic income payments and has done the math. If we reallocated some of these wasted and mismanaged tax dollars towards providing everyone with universal basic income, we could pay for our own healthcare cost’s regardless if we’re employed.
@paulmcclung9383 that is literally because our government is intentionally horrible in the way they treat pretty much anyone on any form of goverment assistance or welfare in order to prevent people from wanting it. Why help people when you can use them as an example of why every else needs to work harder and for less pay without complaining?
In France we have contract called CDD or CDI. Employees who has a CDD when the boss wants to fired them they just wait 6 months because that contract is limited. But for those who have a CDI they can’t get fired easily because employees can attack them back in the prud’homme which is the court for workers.
How long may it take for a case to reach court when you sue anyody? Here in Spain it's 7 years on average, that's why few people dare to use judicial system.
"Right to Work" states in the U.S. are exactly like this. I worked at a college for 23 years, 18 full time with excellent evaluations. The president called over 20 of us into one of the new auditoriums and told us that he wasn't going to renew our contracts for the next year. We had to pack our things and leave campus, and we weren't allowed to come back without permission from campus police. I only got 3 months of unemployment. The school reposted most of the jobs at lower pay. On a positive note, I did get my Excellence in Service Award for my 18 years of exemplary service to the school before I left, so that was nice.
I saw this happen at my old workplace (a university). It didn't happen to me, but former coworkers (all older than 45) were told they lost their jobs and escorted out one day. One woman, very passionate about her job, had been working there longer than I'd been alive!! She was told she couldn't come on campus! Many of them had their whole identities tied to that university...
This little bank called CITIBANK wanted to come to South Dakota and part of the agreement for them to come was that we became an at will state. Try getting those benefits.
My grandma died the day before I was suppose to start at a new job. She was more of a mother to me than anything and we talked almost every other day and it was devastating. The company allowed two bereavement days and when my grandpa needed help over the loss I took an additional day to take care of him. The company gave me a “Notice of Separation” that day. Not only had I lost my grandma, my grandpa was in a really bad state, but then I lost my job.
The downside is that it's much harder to find a job in France than in the US. I've also heard horror stories from small business owners in France : one employee asked for paid time off for "injuries" that occured on days off and that lasted for 6 months, and another employee was also off for more than 6 months because she was pregnant. He and his japanese wife had to work non-stop because of that, they were exhausted and disgusted. Wife got fed up and left, he had to close his restaurant, because of lazy french workers who got paid for doing nothing. This is not the only case. Some people will take advantage of the law, when you can't fire them it can turn into a long nightmare. I lived in NYC, and people give you a chance more easily. That makes for a very lively place. In France things can be sluggish.
Health insurance is not tied to employment, because you don’t have to take the health insurance. It’s a benefit offered by the employer. It’s usually cheaper than getting it yourself though. While it is true that technically an employer can terminate your employment for any reason. It’s not as cut and dry as she makes it out to be. You can easily sue a company for wrongful termination. Most places try to avoid firing people at all costs, because hiring people is an expensive process especially in higher paying jobs.
In New Zealand, there is a dismissal process and a good reason must be given, otherwise the employer can be sued. Also, appropriate notice must be given, unless it's a case of serious misconduct. In any circumstance, the person losing their job is still entitled to any annual holidays etc. they are owed, in their final pay. Here, healthcare is not tied to your job either, as most medical things are covered by the government anyway, except about $60 for GP visits. If you're fired, you can get the job seekers allowance almost immediately, plus accommodation supplement to get you through. It's really sad that the US treats people this way, when they are so wealthy. I'm guessing it won't change any time soon, unless there's a mass push for it from the population.
I wish I lived in a country like yours. I'm currently in process of immigrating to US from Turkey and I'm scared that I made a wrong decision but everything is ready now and I speak English so I wouldn't be able to get by in other European countries I guess.
$60NZ is actually expensive for a GP visit in New Zealand. GPs in poorer areas get higher subsidies. If you want to save some money join a nearby GP in a poorer suburb. Mine is $19.
@@timurklc6912 There are quite a few people from Middle East where I live. English is one language spoken here - also in Australia. People seem to like Australia more I guess - if you want to make money because of the mines etc.
@@georgelane6350 I do live in a relatively poor area - it's just I can't change my GP right now - I'm on the waiting list to get one closer to home. But prescriptions are free, and I work full time, so I'm not complaining lol. I probably only go to the doctor once in two or three years.
@@martinemartin4779 mines are one of the worst offenders of health unfortunately. It's like smoking 2 packs and drinking 2 litres of alcohol on top of doing lots of drugs everyday
My favorite part about the US is they can let you go for any reason, except for discrimination, and they didn't have to tell you why. Ahh, if they didn't have to say why, then they can do it for discrimination, and you won't know... That is a hell of a loophole to be able to skirt the law.🤦♀️🤦♀️
Did you know that you must be in a minority group to file for discrimination. If you are white and work with a company that is all black and you get fired, the law says that this is not discrimination because you are white. I swear, this is true. I had an employment lawyer explain this to me. The idea is that, because you are white, you can not be discriminated against because you can always go and find another job.
@@horsegirlb7120Yes but that is a very difficult claim to prove and the onus falls entirely on the employee. Whereas in France the employer is held accountable.
I was fired for being sick. Was denied unemployment because my employer claimed I was a no call no-show even though I contacted the manager to call off six hours before the start of my shift.
Ask the Unemployment Office if you need a Doctor's Note to Verify Your Sickness for that time period then. Hopefully you'll have one person backing you up if your Employer is trash.
@@nicolasrenoult7824 Macron et sa clique ont finit de détruire la filière nucléaire qui était notre seule industrie de pointe.. J'en sais quelque chose..
As an American, I can confirm being let go from a job with no notice whatsoever and for "no reason" or in a way that is reprehensible. My daughter was in the hospital, seriously ill, and my employer let me go even though I begged and apologized for my small mistakes in the past. Absolutely heartless and cruel. I nearly had a nervous breakdown with all of the stress. Fortunately my daughter recovered but the trauma of being fired during that horrific time is still with me. Edit: can y'all please stop squabbling in the comments, we're adults here, this isn't highschool. If you disagree with each other that's fine, but be nice or go somewhere else
@@raybarry4307 Wow it's almost like human being should be considered more important than a few dolars. Or that the time you give is worth more they want you to think.
Ah yes, COBRA. I was offered that in the early 2000s and it showed i would have to pay $900 a month. How the F is that possible when the job I left was minimum wage !!??? Why do they bother lying about how wonderful it is for people to have when no one can afford it??!! Im guessing since 20+ years have passed it must now cost around $2000 a month or more
@@andycopeland7051yeah its almost as if the government represented people instead of corporations and the insurance companies we could have universal healthcare
@@Jack-px8lf that's just the thing. We don't live in the utopia you wish for. So the federal gangsters whip up the idiot people; the idiot people vote for their leaders; "universal healthcare" laws get passed, or at least something intended to move the system in that direction: the idiot people are promised now they can have hope that the system will be better; the healthcare system gets worse, more expensive, and less efficient (like everything the government is involved with ends up); the idiot people cry out; the federal gangsters ask for more power; things get worse.
@@andycopeland7051 yes, because U.S. healthcare sounds waaaaay better I live in Romania, where the state of our healthcare is abysmal and I wouldn't want privatisation of healthcare for anything Your countries system sucks, live with it
When i studied abroad in Francia i heard how difficult it was for employers to fire employees, even truly underperforming ones. The first thing i thought is that this makes the organizations full of underperformers and super inefficient.
@aycc-nbh7289 which may put it into a class action status, but even if it doesn't, lawsuits can take years. Especially if it's a class action. Most people don't have money to fight big companies at all, let alone that long. Even if you win, lawyer fees will eat that up. If your lucky, you get a couple thousand, if not, you could end up owing
that's way easier to come by than you would think,@@CookieCurls. And while that's very idealistic to think an employee would never come out and say it, I have text proof from one I had to sue.
Last week I saw this happen in real time. My boss fired a co-worker. She had zero notice nor any indicators on her performance evaluations. Just showed up to work on a Thursday and was fired. I didn’t like her attitude nor really think she was a stellar employee; but I was certain she’d improve over time. She was average by all accounts. And boom. Zero warning. Fired.
It is absolutely insane to me that people can just get fired out of the blue in the US. It doesn't make any sense at all. Where I am from you first need 2 (I believe, maybe 3) written warnings and on the third you get fired. And it can't be for just any shit either, it has to be properly not doing your job. The only exception is if it is in a probation period or some things which aren't work related like assault or being drunk at work etc
You answered your own question. Attitude and average performance. Where I work, they actually have to put you on an "improvement" plan to show HR that they tried to work with you. Put you on multiple write ups, yada yada yada. Meanwhile, you're a total shtbag and other employees are complaining and using you as an example for their whataboutisms. Only time they quit you cold turkey is if you do something egregious to violate company policy. Saying goes - you didn't get fired, you fired yourself. Some states are 'right to work' states. They can fire you without giving you a reason.
@@1972Ray well sure, I assume it is very unlikely that it is really for nothing. But there is also a difference between you screwed up once or didn't do well enough once and you deserve to be let go. But it could also be that these anecdotes you see on the internet exaggerate and actually someone messed up quite a bit or long term. I just personally feel like an employee should have some form of protection in the way of needing to receive warnings first before just firing them.
Same in austria, you shouldn’t have to suffer and you should have a chance to get to another job. If you dont worry about healthcare you work different and efficient. When you have to fear that your life is going down, you suffer so much. I‘m sorry for so many people that they have to experience that.
you are right. companies should not offer health care coverage. use the money to give raises instead. if you want health care coverage, buy it yourself.
@@thomaschristopher8593 I completely agree. If they were smarter, stronger, and had better work ethics they wouldn’t be looking for the government to bail them out with health coverage. It’s natural selection.
@@cbgbstew4072 I'm attempting to match the energy of the poster above me. It's an incredibly stupid, inconsiderate and inhumane way to think of it. People like him will call it the dirty C-Word to advocate for the well being of the working class. Somehow they think that identifying with the wealthy and their reality makes them appear more moral and responsible.
Same here in the Philippines. But the monthly for healthcare and social security is a bit lower. Also, we don't have to go to the GP to get to a specialist!!!! We can go straight to the specialist!!! Also, employers can't just drop us for no reason, they have to give you some time to adjust and find a new job.
Wth 😂 are those legit cliches about France? Doesn't make any sense. Oh wait, you forgot to mention while being fired guy is wearing a beret hat and holding a baguette
No not really. If there has been discrimination, it is almost always apparent before the dismissal. Doctoring a false reason, or giving no reason, does nothing where actual discrimination was present. The purpose of HR is to discourage unsupported lawsuits.
@@cisium1184I take it you’ve never actually been discriminated against, because I have and it’s almost impossible to prove. Most people aren’t openly discriminatory at work, shouting slurs or something. Even if they did say something unless you have a recording or you have witnesses you have nothing. It’s like death by a thousand cuts, it shows up in small ways every day that are very hard to prove in court. And if you’re let go, they don’t have to give a reason. In fact they won’t give you a reason, it’s safer if they say nothing.
@@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628 but why? Many countries do that. Canada, UK, Sweden, Portugal, Spain, Australia... Even poor countries like Cuba and Brazil have it. I think that having a very poor system is still better than having nothing at all
@@llpBR Because those systems, when compared to American Healthcare in actual quality, sucks. It's a game of trade offs. The best quality healthcare comes from countries without the government in charge of it.
Its extremely difficult to fire someone here in New Zealand. Because of that, employees are forced to work with HORRIBLE coworkers. I cannot tell you how many people I have worked with that would have been fired in the US. It makes doing my job harder and way more unenjoyable. There are always pros and cons to every situation.
America has unions. If youre in one, expect that union to protect the absolute worst workers you'll ever see. But, on the other hand my raises are guaranteed and no policies can change without a union representative and a vote by the members. bout the best you can get here.
Contrary to what you expect, it's not typically bad or unpleasant employees who get fired. Unexcused absences are top, and beyond that it's more likely the good people will leave or get pushed out by the bad people because they have fewer options. People do not tend to like people who expect them to perform.
@thechaddingo2677 I'd always been pro union, still largely am, but one union job I had was so weird, the actual job was great and they protected a ton of break time and good equipment, but also if someone from another city moved to yours they were guaranteed x% of total work hours. Needless to say three guys showed up at once and suddenly my full time job was 20 hours a week and I had to quit and take a non-union role. Which ... worse pay, worse bosses, worse conditions, but I at least knew what to expect.
Helped a family.member with continuing health care after being fired. Coverage was for mother, father and three young kids. Cost me $1,500 A month. Fortunately he found employment after 3 months. Year was 2014.
In Poland, when you don't have a job, you still can have healthcare, you just have to register yourself as unemployed. Everybody can loose their job at some time of life or become disabled and as a society we agreed years ago that we have to care for each other. This, as well as paid maternity leave or free higher education, is one of the good "side effects" that are left after communism.
USA has Medicaid for those in poverty. COBRA is just a continuation of existing insurance benefits which your employer has been helping you subsidize within a group rate... COBRA is a continuation of benefits, often without the employer subsidy.
@@SuperCreeper38 well, it was all done by a communist party. One of communist ideas is a classless society, where everybody's access to education, healthcare and other sources is equal. Of course it was delusional and people weren't equal in this system, but still, the paid maternity leave was a straight consequences of an idea that a woman is as valuable worker as a man.
That's not coming from communism, it's same in France and this country has never been communist. It's a social agreement where people at one stage decide to take care of each other as citizens
I feel for anyone who loses their job. In the US, in France or anywhere. Being unemployed is really tough. Especially these days when the global economy is unstable enough as it is.
They say it all with a smile on their face and an upbeat attitude too. Zero compassion or humanity or heart or soul. Smh. God help us IJNA 🙏🏼 Have mercy on your people God 🙏🏼 Help us Jesus 🙏🏼 In Jesus name We pray amen 🙏🏼
one of the downsides in France is that there are almost no permanent contracts anymore, only fixed-term contracts. which means if an employer doesn't like you, they don't have to fire you, they can just wait for the end of the contract and not renew it
and it hella sucks when they do wanna keep you but keep renewing the contract (not so legally sometimes) instead of giving the damn permanent contract; therefore you're stuck not able to do a bunch of shit including having a damn rent (let's not even talk about buying a house or new car lol)
Imagine comparing a term contract to at-will employment. At-will employment can drop your expenses at any time, so any credit you think you're fixing to continue paying, is actually turning into bankruptcy and total repossession. A contract, means you know exactly how long you can pay for something for. One of those things not even having to be healthcare. And it doesn't sound like they can successfully make you think they're renewing but aren't. That would totally be a thing walmart would do to you in the US.
It always amazes me that Americans can be fired on the spot for no reason. This cannot happen in any other post-industrial country. Tragically, my American friends find it difficult to believe ...
A lot of concepts are leftover from when we had a truly free market. At-will employment? Used to be that anyone could start a business on their porch or in their car. Now you need insurance and notices and fees and Heaven help you if you try to start a trade in a union-monopoly's turf. Not to mention, self-employment taxes are BS. If you make more than $400 in a year, you're self-employed and must pay 14% on all that income. Healthcare tied to job? Doctors used to be able to start a practice quicker, until the AMA lobbied the government to restrict the supply and thus artificially inflate the price. Not to mention, company benefits only really began as a result of FDR freezing wages in the Great Depression.
Just so people here know :in France we got two main type of job contracts, CDI (Contracts with Undefined Duration) and CDD (Contracts with Defined Duration). While both have the same protection as shown by this short, CDD last for a certain time, usually a year, and can just be not renewed. Of course, we are always informed what type is offered and signed, so wecan prepare.
In the US we also have limited term contracts and undefined duration contracts (you're a contractor, not an employee, which means you are not able to get benefits such as health insurance) - you can also have limited term *employment* (like a seasonal employee) and "permanent" employment, which means you do get benefits from the company. HOWEVER, regardless of your job situation and contract agreement is, the employer/company can still end it at any time, for any reason, with no prior notice, they don't have to tell you way, and there's zero repercussions to them for doing it 😃 wonderful country 😃
CDD can be renewed a few times (i think twice) unless you work in the public sector where, somehow, they can do it as many time as they want. Illegally but they can. Some employers will prefer to hire people as CDD to avoid having to pay a lot of money if they want to fire them. Once your CDD is finished you have up to 2 years (i think they are reducing it now) of unemployment money accouting for 75% of your gross salary (if i'm not wrong). However, if you decide to leave your CDI you'll need a letter from your employer called "rupture conventionelle" and a good reason (like a change of career) to be able to benefit from the unemployed status. Either way, you get coverage from the national social security for your health for an unlimited period and coverage from your health insurance (the one that come as a complement to the social security and that is usually paid by your employer) for a year after ending your job.
This almost made me cry. My husband was let go and the struggle to get back into some financial security has been incredibly difficult. I don't even want to think about health insurance.
Well... Spain is a good example of why you can only do that in very rich countries. Youth employment in Spain is atrocious, basically cause it's expensive af to maintain an employee and there's very little incentive to create more work, so you basically need to be 21 with 5 years experience and a degree if you want a shot at a Job. But, if you get one, it's no France but it's very comfy. Balancing what a country can or can't do it's complicated. Funny enough I know some Europeans who want to move to the US cause they pay way more there. Idk it's weird. I'm a third worlder so I've no point of comparison.
Employers in France need to have a very valid reason to fire you, otherwise you can easily sue them back
Basically everywhere.
In my country if you go to work drunk, they won't fire you. They will send you to rehab with full payment. XD
@@acr04muertowow I want that! Where is that, what's your country?
Yeah, Same in Mexico, my parents own a law thing (idk how you call them in English lol) and they talk about it all the time 😅
Here in Germany, if you're just neglectful and come to the job drunk, it can be a reason for termination. But if you can prove that you're medically addicted, your doctor can prescribe you to go to the rehab clinic. The cost will be covered to a great extent by your health insurance and during your time off from work you will still receive 100% salary for up to 6 weeks. After the 6 weeks the salary will decrease in steps. If your salary becomes so low that you can't sustain yourself, you can file for government aid. Job termination based on a medical condition is tied to very strict conditions in Germany, which make it almost impossible to be fired for it.
Not really, they can fire anyone for any particular reason (unless it's discrimination of course). The difference is that they will have to give you more money if they don't have a solid reason. There are 2 main reasons: economical (they need to declare it to the administration and prove that they are in trouble) and for a grave mistake (fault you made that range from costing a lot to the company to the death of someone). In both cases, the employer won't be penalized. And in the second one, you won't get unemployement benefits.
The same idea apply to you btw. You can't just leave like that. You have about 1 to 4 month after your notice depending on your contract. Also, without a valid reason you may not be eligible to employement benefits.
In france, you can't just get fired with no reason. Employers will pretty much keep you on indefinitely. Of course, this means that employers really don't want to hire people so the job market is quite competitive.
But you have temporary jobs. Still the unemployed benefits are really good. We are no monsters or we are more afraid of workers XD
@@manoo2056 doesn’t sound fun when most French people are taxed 30% at 28k which I got that info from impots,Gouv an official French tax bracket site plus some of the most extra add on taxes in the world which take a giant chunk of your income when they’re all combined and compounding (US has far less) all to get the worst doctor shortage in Europe which I got that info from many sites including French 24 a state media outlet who says “OECD says France has 3.4 doctors out of 1,000 people which is way worse than in Spain, Greece, Germany, Ireland, Italy, one of the worst in the developed west.
@@NicEeEe843Please stop throwing random numbers out the window, just say you don't know 😉
@@benoitlamirault6456 Please stop throwing random statements out the window. Just say what is wrong, and how... Or say you don't know, but you object to the idea that France isn't awesome.. I mean they have like 1/100th the immigration of the US... CLEARLY people are just lining up to get into France... right?
@@NicEeEe843 You desperate fool.
I remember the other day people were talking at a dinner and saying “this new generation doesn’t understand company loyalty”. This is exactly why.
Why should i be loyal to a corporation in the first place. Goes against the American mantra of freedom right?
I thought the US had done away with monarchies.
Sound like some really stupid people.
@@orangeairsoft7292they just went to the oligarchies now
If they want loyalty they can hire dogs
@@orangeairsoft7292corporation and monarchies are very different.
And still you hear americans claim the USA is the best country in the world😂
😂😂😂😂because they don’t know other places 😂
It is the best place. The world exists due to the US. Marshall plan after WWII, we rebuilt France. They owe us the ground they walk on. Let’s not forget in 1942 France was a part of Germany. No USA, then France would have been just a fading memory. Why are immigrants coming from all over the world to USA? Beta mentality you have.
This video is not true, though. Do research, and you'll understand why people argue the opposite.
Because it is.
@napoleon1992 Except it's not. As an American, you have rights, and an employer is required to tell you why you're being released. You can not be fired because they don't like you or because they feel like it. If they fire you and you're too stupid to know your rights, that's your fault.
In France it is very very difficult to get fired other than economical reasons. The law is very protective with workers. The bad side of it is that employers hesitate a lot to hire people....
Well, American companies aren't quick to hire either...So just shitty all the way through.
Except this kind of contract is now pretty rare and most people are working through temporary contracts so it might not be firing but not renewing the contract, so it's actually pretty easy to lose your job in most cases.
@@littlestarshepherdI wouldn’t say most people are. Probably a bias you’ve developed specific to your particular industry. Yearly contracts are very common in teaching for example.
Yes. You are very fortunate IF you get the job. I was working an internship at a tech French company and they always treated me well, they loved how I worked, the salary was above average for an internship, never made me work a single extra hour, but when I asked to be formally hired as an employee they kept me in suspense for a month until they finally told me they wouldn't hire me. Something about "not having the budget" yet they hired 3 new engineers right after I left lol probably because they were french and I was a foreigner. French bureaucracy when it comes to work permits is a nightmare.
@@littlestarshepherdI don't know the sector you are talking about but in engineering, energy, research there's a lot more long term contracts (CDI) than limited term contracts (CDD).
It's important to know that even for CDDs the law is quite specific and they can only be used for replacing some sick, maternity leave, a temporary growth of load work, etc
Remember kids, if companies don't have to give a 2 week notice yo fire you, you don't have to give a 2 week notice before you quit
I’d say this is a perspective thing… not all employers are heartless and just can people without notice or cause. Please base your decisions on your own life experience, not random internet advice! I’d give notice because I’m NOT an asshole…
@@jkc2188 "erm actually it's a perspective thing" 🤓it was a joke, maybe learn to understand them
Remember kids, there's a lot of stupid advice on the internet.
When employers do reference checks, they typically only ask if you are "eligible for rehire." If company policy is to give two weeks notice and you don't, they may mark you ineligible for rehire.
During a reference check, for legal reasons, the company will only answer "yes" or "no" to the eligible for rehire question and will give no additional clarification. So if you leave without notice, you may be playing yourself.
Yeah but it depends on the work. It’s terrible advice to not give notice if you’re white collar. Burning bridges will follow you
@@jkc2188 I've given two week's notice to two jobs I quit, and both jobs immediately took me off the schedule the following week, so not everyone is like you.
The accent switch is awesome 😂
I miss working for non-US companies. Having worked before at German and Australian companies, I miss the better "work to live" culture, ample holidays (the 1/2 of December month was a paid holiday!), and fewer days working 12+ hours.
Another thing that happens here in the US, when an employer doesn't want you anymore, they keep pushing you to the limits. They low-key mistreat you. They skrew with your schedules, they load you with work, they do anything so they can corner you to quit, and their hands are clear🤷🏻♀️
Or... laying off... the famous lay off. Many people (majority) never come back from getting laid off.
In other countries that's called "constructive dismissal" and is rightly illegal.
That doesn’t happen and you know it
Yup. My husband was laid off during a mass layoff from Lockheed, they targeted employees with enough tenure to have sway over the looming union strike, but not enough tenure to have the resources to mount a massive lawsuit. He made well over $30 per hour during regular shifts, and worked overtime almost every weekend (they NEED employees who work overtime).
He hasn't been able to find a job paying more than $22/h since then, and the layoff happened in 2021. He even signed a contract with them that ensured he'd be eligible for reemployment by them after a 12 month period, and his attempts to get rehired have been for not, while they've lowered their new hire wage from $21/h to $17/h, at least at this location. They won't rehire him because they know they could hire two people for slightly more than they'd have to pay him. 🫠 Two of his close friends were protected from the mass layoff because they were injured on the job and a huge lawsuit risk, so he's kept up to date about everything happening there.
@@The_king567 at a certain company I worked for and was discussing union practices with, I was one of the active people put on freezer duty, with no good PPE (no gloves, no matter how much we asked for them), despite having communicated to them that I've had frostbite in the past making my hands freeze very quickly.
Technically, none of this is illiegal. And they were ultimatley able to fire me for missing work during my college finals period despite my communicating to them I would have to miss work for my finals (This is a something they will tell you to do), but they could just fire me for going past my attendance limit.
@@chromarush1749 I don’t believe you but nice story dude
As a chronically ill person who lives in US, this is very accurate. Then, when you are homeless because no one will hire you because of your illness, you are criminalized and told to get a job.
I know right. Ican only work freelance bc of epilepsy. America is a terrible place for the disabled.
I work with tenants in USA. I am working with a veteran who has long COVID and has not been able to work for 1 1/2 years. In order to get her assistance, she has to be within fifteen days of imminent homelessness. The main place in town that “helps” veterans literally dumped / closed her advocacy case when she was within fifteen days of imminent homelessness. So she is getting evicted after June 15th. The agency told her the case would be closed May 31st. This is the insanity of social services in the USA 🇺🇸.
Gosh really?! And you can't have any public financial help for your disease? Where I live (french speaking side of Belgium) if your disability is recognized as such, you have the right to get income replacement benefits as well as an access to programs that can help you find a job adapted to your disability. It's not a lot of money, but at least you can pay rent and the necessary
@@Ixc795 Yes, I get no help whatsoever. I wish my area had such programs. My last job wouldn’t even make adjustments that they were legally required to do. They said quit or sue them, which I can’t since I can’t afford a lawyer.
@@ARrightsso those people are left outside to die?
“We would not do this, we’re not monsters!” 💯 WHY DOES AMERICA NOT GET THIS YET!!!
Profit. Lobbyists.
Because the US is really a toilet. It's all about greed and the every day people suffer.
Because nobody owes you shit pinko.
💲💲💲
We’re victims of Stockholm Syndrome. Have some pity 😂😂
I've just found out that in the US, insulin costs $35 A SHOT 😱 Here in France it's completely free as well as treatments for a number of other life-threatening conditions.
Isn't it per vile of insulin, or more? Still, it is horrible. Biden capped insulin for the elderly at $35.00 a month and wants to do this for everyone and will if the House and Senate are majority Democrats.
And that's something that only happened here recently! I have a friend that for years struggled to afford his insulin and would legit ration it. It was an endless cycle of too sick to hold a full time job because he couldn't afford his insulin which meant no insurance which meant he would stay too sick to work. When I say recently I mean like in the last 2 years.
@@samipickard589 this shouldn't be happening in the 21st century....
it's not really free, the social security pay for it XD.
Ne pensez pas que c'est gratuit. La sécurité sociale est financée avec les impôts des contribuables.
Chaque mois, nous avons des cotisations qui sont prélevées sur nos salaires.
Donc non ce n'est pas gratuit.
In the US it is actually to the employer's benefit to not explain why they fired someone, because if they do and they get sued, they actually have to defend it. If they give no reason then they can make up what ever they have the strongest support for to protect themselves. The fact in the US we are expected to give notice about leaving a job, but employers can just let you go at any point and offer you nothing is insane.
That’s sad because it could be a valuable learning opportunity for employees who are fired.
Expected doesnt mean mandatory, and if you have a brain you can contest the firing because of unlawful reasons, all you need to do is keep record of the conversations you have with employers and any contracts you might have signed. You are responsible for your own sucess and well being, stop looking to the government for the baby treatment when you live in a country of economic wealth and prsoperity, with unalienable human rights.
Yes. They can fire you for whatever they want as long as they come up with a more acceptable reason to say out loud
@@benrandom6053”All you need to do is keep a running log of literally everything you’ve ever done or said and everything your superiors have done or said over the course of your entire employment and also have enough funds to then file a lawsuit against an entity with a small army of lawyers that may take months to years to actually resolve. Also the government looking out for its citizens against abuses by corporations is them babying you.”
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@@benrandom6053 literally the only 'illegal' reason is discrimination
The idea that your employer should have ANY control over your healthcare is absolutely dangerous and insane. I don't know why America thinks this is in any way okay.
A health care insurance plan through an employer is a benefit that employers started offering a long tome ago to lure the best employees. It's always been up to an individual whether they participated in the plan their employer offered or purchase their own or not have any at all. It should always be a person's right to decide whether they want to buy health insurance or not... meaning the government should never force anyone to have it nor force anyone to pay for someone else's health insurance.
They PROVIDE the healthcare. Unless of course you have your own healthcare, then losing your job is irrelevant to that
they dont, but the alternative is massive tax spikes instead of just charging companies more. we get punished for wanting more rights.
They don’t have control over anything for you…that’s the point. You are free to thrive or fail without constraints. Some like it, some don’t.
@@6point5grendelhave you ever been on Medicaid? I can’t attest as someone who’s sponsored my own healthcare, my Medicaid gave me far more options and covered more of my medical expenses than my $400/mo self-paid plan. It’s the ppl in the middle who get screwed the worst.
Difficulty in firing, difficulty in hiring
I'm french and honestly the fact that you can't fired easily people is so wrong. You have no solution to level up and no solution to leave your company when there is a problem and the company make you pay for it socially speaking... You have to pass so many interviews for them to trust you and they will never trust you... I would rather prefer pay healthcare with my own money.
No. Don’t know why you think this is a thing, but it is not. Greetings from the EU 🎉
In Canada we have a "probation period" (typically 3 months) where the employer is able to fire you for any reason (besides discrimination), and it's supposed to allow the employer to see if you're a good fit. Anything past 3 months, the employer has to have a good reason; I actually lost my first job at McDonald's 5 days before my probation period ended, and the reason they gave was basically "sorry, your anxiety is too bad, you're not a good fit for this environment." I can't imagine feeling the stress I feel during probation period for years at a time.
Also, our healthcare is free whether you're employed or not, but your dental care can either be free or cheaper depending on where you work, and even then, not all places have dental benefits.
Also prescription drugs and eye care are usually tied to employment coverage. And things like physiotherapy and counseling.
Healthcare in Europe is NOT free, we absolutely pay it all through taxes (some of them we don’t even notice). Please don’t be fooled. We pay waaay more than what we actually get
You don't feel the stress for years at a time. You will know pretty quick if you are going to work out at a place. also if your boss needs to keep telling you to stop doing things wrong or causing problems, that's a sign you might get fired. these things are not some mysterious surprise. people are just stupid and/or don't pay attention. all that is required is to do your job well. it's not complicated.
also your health care is not free. nothing from the government is free. SOMEONE is paying for it. please try to understand that.
@96SN95 "it's not free, someone else is paying for it" no shit sherlock, I know how my own country's taxes work
Very interesting! Actually it's similar in France, we also have this probation period, also usually for a few months
Same thing goes with the dental care separated from other health care
In fact, the country covers everyone with the "sécurité sociale", which will covers like 70-80% of your daily and emergency care, as well as almost all medicine a doctor prescribe you. Then you have a "mutuelle", some kind of private insurance that covers the remaining 20-30% for your daily cares. If you have a good one, it'll cover dental care and "non-medical" (in the sense that the ones who provide the care are not doctors) things, like psychology for example
And if you don't have an job to set you up with one and don't have much money, the country will provide you the service
I have changed many jobs in the U.S. and never lasted more than 2 years in a job…now I work for a German company and it’s been 7 years and counting
Kinda sounds like a "you" problem😂😂
I mean buddy… that’s not necessarily the US’s fault.
@@fencserx9423 unless you own your own business or are fortunate to get a good job in the US, you pretty much have to job hop to get any kind of pay raise. corporations don't give pay raises (or they give really low pay raises) to employees who they think they can keep around and exploit and most jobs aren't unionized so they take advantage of not being required by any union contract to give raises. turnover is really high in most places and if you look at the raises employees get, you can see why.
@@fencserx9423 also in the US, benefits are often shit. you pay out the ass for healthcare then still have to pay when you need to go to the doctor, dentist, or optometrist. i've worked for 2 european companies in America and both had great benefits, but the American companies i've worked for that weren't unionized had horrible benefits. people job hop often for the benefits because there are a few companies with actually good benefits.
@@fencserx9423. No, it is. I’m in a union because it makes it difficult to fire me for no reason (my physical appearance), as has been done many times in the past. Every US institution can kiss my whole a.
Hubs lost his job in January. Just got an offer yesterday. I have a medically complicated kid and now... a mountain of medical debt. Because America IS run by monsters.
America is not a democracy of, for and by the people. It is a for-profit corporation on the backs of the little guy. I'm really sorry fellow worker ant, but that country is not designed for you or me to do well.
(that's why I left 20 years ago for Europe)
I'm really sorry. I hope the new job offer works out and things get better for you again ❤
I lost my job in September in Minnesota. I got discounted healthcare and unemployment. (My healthcare premium was under $300)
I hope that the universe brings you everything you need to live comfortably again
I'm so so sorry 😢
I’m France 🇫🇷, passing the probation time, is very hard to fire someone, it’s a nightmare for employers!
One of my workplaces shutdown an entire project to get rid of the teams working in it. The project was brought back after three months with same team names but with different people.
That's why nobody should give 2 weeks' notice. They don't give you anything.
Give 2 week notices to jobs that respect you and you know you won't be walked off the job for giving notice. If the employer treats you like dog crap just walk away after securing a new job. "What about references?" A manager who treats you like crap isn't going to leave you a good reference anyway.
If you treat the people you got along with well it could help you down the line in your career. Be strategic about it
@@ansteve1exactly this, might need that reference down the line but totally dependent on work environment and need
I keep seeing people say this. If you don't give notice, you have bad references. If you ever need those references, you've fucked yourself.
In the UK references are simply a confirmation that you worked in a place. They don't really discuss behaviour unless there was bad behaviour that's on record
@jessicahay9305 not really, but pop off I guess 😂
I sarcastically lol’d at the “we are not monsters” part
Well the monsters part is real when it comes to income… I shall know with up to a doctorate degrees, due to cancer treatment and side effects I went from living well to having no place to stay … and of course lost my job … I was 40 and 2 kids…. I rebuilt partly and slowly and had lost everything except my home this time 15 years later…I grew up in France so I am well aware of the difference…. Sometimes here pets are treated better than human being… I feel the same about people who fought for the USA.. they do not have enough when they are back home injured or with mental trauma. Definitely is THE part of USA which is treating hard working people very badly.
In the US, if you're not rich enough to own a congressman, then you're not a real citizen. You're a tool to be used, a product to be sold, and a mark to be preyed upon. You only have rights if you're a corporation.
Right 😂 "We have replaced and endangered our entire population, but we're good people" 😂😂😂
@@Dr.SophieValerio I'm so sorry!! Did that happen in the USA or France?
@@TradBarbie what are you talking about?
I’m in America and I’m pregnant, struggling with some health issues that are so bad it’s hard to keep a job. I really want to move to France after watching a bunch of these videos 😅
In France. Depending on the type of job you had, you can have unemployment benefit which can be over $1200 monthly for a year, a year and a half
This isn't even a French thing. It's most first world countries not named America.
Yes, and guess what? Those countries and employers (not US) are doing just fine. It doesn’t bankrupt a business to treat employees well, and it doesn’t bankrupt a nation to provide universal health care. We in the US are just brainwashed by the rich to think those are impossible goals.
@@rftulie the rich? I remember Obama health care program being critizized by many on social media. Because taxes would rise. Definitely not the rich.
@@rftulie facts.....and "brainwashed" is being waaay too kind
@@rftulieNo.
@@cbgbstew4072cogent argument right there.
I work at a big int’l company that just had big layoffs. When I logged on in the morning from Japan, the US people were already gone & their accounts deactivated same-day. EU people were notified & informed of their 1-2 month process & negotiation. JP people were told “people who are eligible for the employee assistance program will hear from their managers in the next 2 months.” Absolutely insane.
Which one is insane?
Yep! In the US most employees have what is called and at-will contract which is not really a contract. It is the opposite of a contract. In order to get the job we are forced to sign a document stating that we can be let go at anytime for any reason whatsoever and that the agreement we are signing is not a contract or guarantee of employment. The rest of the developed nations provide permanent work contracts for employees after 1 year...and legally they must offer that. Even if you work a retail job in a shopping mall you will have a contract. They cannot fire you for just any reason
Tesla?
@@faraboverubieskerry
The US has gone to the dogs. You couldn't pay me to live, or work there.
I work for a multinational US-based company, and they recently began a round of layoffs. They sent an email to the whole company saying basically “managers will be informing people who have been laid off today, thank you and goodbye.” And about 5 minutes later we (in the EU) got a frantic email from our local HR saying basically “don’t worry!! He’s only talking to the Americans. You won’t get laid off without following the proper legal process. Please don’t sue us.”
This could have been US vs. most European countries. But the Americans still think they have the greatest country in the world. 😂
vs most countries.
Most arabic countries have free medical healthcare too
...well, yeah. And then you have the other side of the coin when your work relies on someone else and that person is absolutely terrible and the employer can do exactly nothing about it. DX
@@Regina316 oh yeah... Health, life and death VS sum money and stuff. Great liberal thinking.
@@PrincesseKes ...I'm not sure what you're talking about. First off, English is not my first language so while I am aware that "liberal" is a type of politics, I don't really know what kind. Just for clarification, though, I'm not talking about someone being bad at their job. I'm talking about being forced to pull the workload of two people, while being actively belittled and often yelled at, and sometimes having to pull an extra shift with zero notice (while having someone at home to care for, by the way) all because your co-worker is a raging bloody alcoholic who simply cannot be fired. I'm talking about having to survive *that* for 12 full years because you don't want to loose your job security. So... yeah. Health, indeed. DX
"We are not monsters" 😂
Oh, employers discriminate all the time. ",At will employment" is an excellent cover for getting rid of someone who would otherwise have grounds to sue. A certain big bank I worked for eliminated every pregnant woman/ new mother/ mildly disabled employee in a large department simply by crafting an attendance policy that targeted them. Somebody finally did sue--years later--and they settled. Everybody still went through a period of unemployment at a time when they were very vulnerable.
Yeah honestly the anti-discriminatory laws here are BS because an employer can simply... LIE. For example, if you interview really well but they don't want to hire a woman, they can just say "we didn't feel you'd be the best fit" and how are you supposed to prove it was discrimination?
Then how about this. We pass a law stating that women MUST have a valid reason to either break up with or divorce a man.
No? They why would you want to force a business owner to stay in a relationship with someone that could be toxic or abusive, but not breaking the law? Business owners take a huge risk. Employees get paid no matter how well or bad the business is doing. The business owner might be living off of ramen during bad times to make sure he or she makes the payroll.
@@andrewpena9041Business owners have all the risk, true, but they also may get rich. That's what owning a business means. If you don't like the rules the state sets, become an employee, if that's so much better.
@@andrewpena9041business owner here - business owners get all the risk but also all the reward. They have to pay salaries, taxes, for stock and supplies etc., but business owners also get all the profit. When a bakery gets so successful it becomes a chain with 30 stores, is it the employees that get fancy cars and holiday homes? No. They get a salary. Business owners are the ones who have accumulated wealth, who can sell their company and live the rest of their lives on a beach in the Caribbean.
When you decide to become a business owner, you are doing it for the possible rewards, and in exchange you accept the risk. Someone suffering the consequences of their choices is not a good enough reason to abuse their employees. That risk and consequence falls ON THE BUSINESS OWNER who made that choice. You don't get to go "I want a second holiday home so I'll just fire every pregnant person in the company so I don't have to deal with maternity leave," thats called unethical business practices. Businesses have a lot of power, they SHOULD be expected to be ethical and responsible. If you aren't willing to take risks, don't chase a very high risk occupation.
@@andrewpena9041if employment is a romantic relationship then employers are rich 80 year old men dating very young women they found on the street. I don’t think the employer should be complaining.
As someone who recently lost their job, healthcare, and benefits...... This feels like salt in the wound.
Welcome to the land of monsters.
Sorry to hear. I hope you'll be alright!
I’m sorry I hope you find something soon sending good vibes you way 👍🏼💫
As someone who had this happen twice. Unemployment is them grinding it in.
Yeah, grass seem greener out there
This is the difference between a pro-labor and pro-capital country when it comes to labor laws. Pro-labor, as the name implies, has preferential treatment towards workers, this is more typical for countries whose economies heavily rely on labor as France is reliant on its services sector.
As an Australian and an employer. I find it astounding that in the USA you can just fire someone! We have to give three verbal warnings and a written warning first.
As for healthcare in the USA, terrible that everyone is not covered
The way you said COBRA like it’s a good thing was so dystopian 💀
Dystopian? That's our reality 😂
@@Kuzyapso exactly
Well, she was acting as an employer, and HR does speak in a tone about COBRA as though it's the best thing since sliced bread x_x
@@jjn6914exactly
@@Kuzyapso dystopias don't have to be fictional to be a dystopia
Employers in America do not care at all how dependant you are on income. They WILL drop you like a sack of potatoes over nothing
Correct, it's called at will .You can also do the same thing to them.
@@lojan1990 yes and no. While they can technically let you go they still have to have a valid reason to do so. So the two common areas an employee can sue for being terminated is what is known as the implied contract exception. What this means is that the employee had a reasonable expectation to be employed for a period of time or indefinitley and how this gets established is lets say the employer has a history of only firing people on the basis of cause ie bad performance etc. This establishes an implied contract exception even more so if said fired employee had been there for a lengthy period of time. Another area an employee cab sue under is what is called implied covenant and good faith dealing which many states recognize and basically this covers being terminated in bad faith or because of malice. How you can sue for bad faith a primary example is lets say you got hired but 2 weeks later they fired you for no reason. You could sue for bad faith because unless you have expressely done something very wrong you have a reasonable expectation to be trained and be employed longer especially if it was not advertised the position is only for a very limited time period. Now unlike other countries even though you can successfully sue your employer for wrongful termination the justice system also cant force them to hire you back unless there was an actual contract in place in which case they can be forced to honor the contract.
Literally on a Friday afternoon I got a phone call that said don’t even bother coming back to the office
Yup! And they expect a minimum of two week notice if you decide to quit. They try to make it sound like a necessity when it’s not (unless it’s in a signed job contract). I have seen people at various jobs of mine put in a two week notice and the employers were so spiteful, they were walked out that day so they got shorted on both two weeks pay AND unemployment.
Just happened to me at my last job over a dark humor joke I told 🙂↕️
"We are not monsters" sounds like an employer's nightmare for a number of circumstances.
"We would not do this, we are not monsters" - ooh, the shade 😂
Like how France indirectly called America monster...😂😂😂
It this department as an american I have no objection american working culture is crap and so is healthcare
America really should change in these areas
@@DillyBobBananaFair enough ahah
Not indirectly ;)
Are they wrong tho?
Europe:
"We want you gone we don't want you dead"
US:
Employee: but without healthcare I can't afford my meds and I'll die
Employer 🤷🏻♀️
Poland: Being fired? Healthcare? Haha, you are so funny. You have just one month of public Healthcare.
*Western Europe
@@adambrzeckiwait, what? Really? I thought Poland was roughly as civilised as Czechia!
US:
"We want you gone, and don't care if you are dead."
As an american, I am going shopping for a yellow vest 😈
😂😂😂😂😂
J'ai vu plusieurs de tes vidéos, et j'admire ton habileté à parler comme une francophone qui parle anglais, ou une anglophone qui parle anglais, ou encore une anglophone qui parle le français. Bravo! (Francophone de l'Ontario, Canada.)
Also US: “as a courtesy to us and not at all for your benefit in any way, if you quit we expect you to stay for at least 2 weeks while we find your replacement. Otherwise you’ll never be allowed to work for us or any other company associated with us again.”
And we won’t pay out your vacation or contracted severance, either!
Until very very recently: "Also, you can't work for any of our direct competitors"
2 weeks? Ha
In the UK it's not uncommon to have 3 months notice periods.
And, you will train your replacement.
You certainly don't have to do any of that
Got laid off 8 weeks ago. In Florida, umemployment is 275 a week, the same amount I got in 2012 the last time I got laid off. But my health insurance is 890 a month with a 6000 deductible and a 9400 max out of pocket.
I was in a layoff of 5k people from T-Mobile, and in Texas, unemployment is like ~ $517, and my COBRA health insurance is $837 a month. Good times.
how is that even LEGAL?? I'm an american, living in Germany for the past 18 years, with the occasional few years in America in between. I got hired by a German company, but I was physically unable to do the job so I was of course to let go. No hard feelings. My health insurance continued, but I did have to pay it myself and considering I had the high-end Insurance full coverage including dental and vision and my child on the plan they apologized that it was going to be 225 euros a month. Our unemployment benefit is something like 80% of what you were making, and while it can be difficult to get a tech job in Germany because there is a lot of competition, I was really only unemployed for about 12 weeks, and I started a new job last month. Being let go never feels good, but at least I didn't Panic knowing that Germany has safety nets for people, and you don't even have to be a citizen! ( I am eligible for a German passport, but I just continue with my residence permit because they only change the law this year that I would be able to keep my US Passport if I got a German one)
I feel sorry for Americans, really.... But come on, you have the right to vote, you can change that system!
@@VioletteToussaint in theory, you're right. Voting should change something. But since America only has two major political parties, and they two sides of the same coin, it doesn't matter who you vote for, lobbyists and money are the ones who determine who the next president is. The people don't really have a choice, and even if they did, they're voting for basically the same person in a different color tie
@@user-ut7wz7mh2r I know that's more complicated than "just vote right". The voting system in itself is insane... But people could change things if they really demanded change, together. I'm not sure why this isn't happening, but I hope it will, because it's not healthy to have for example Presidents elected when they lost the popular vote. Shouldn't each vote have the same value? The hyperpolarized political landscape is also really concerning.
In USA pregnant women work until they give birth and have to go back to work after giving birth like tomorrow! You wanna live the American dream but in your dreams hahaha
And yet they actually have children unlike European women
I’d probably use the Mr. Incredible meta on my employer
I was let go at a job about 10 months ago. I was supposed to give them 30 days notice, I was given notice the day they came in and told me. Depending on which state you live in unemployment is not a given. It took me 9 months to find another job. Luckily I had some savings. I did not get healthy insurance (Medicaid) until after 6 months of being unemployed. It was a tedious process that took forever. I was afraid to drive my car anywhere because of lack of insurance. I had to get food from a food bank because my 20 year old son could not get a job. So I was buying groceries for him. I was also paying for his college tuition. It was a hard and difficult time. Oh and the job I did end up taking is only 1099 (contracted) work. I had to take it. The only salary position that would potentially be available to me would not have started until almost a year after my last job. The U.S. needs better labor protections.
It has WAY TOO MUCH labor protection. Kick your son out of the house. He couldn't get a job..bs ! Grow a pair and apply somewhere where isn't as appealing as you want. Then you work your way up. Lazy !
@@rubenfratean3256Jesus, the lack of reading comprehension here.🤦🏾♂️thank you and your outdated mindset for proving their point
@@thebestcentaur my pleasure, son.
There is no labor protection in the US.@@rubenfratean3256
@@rubenfratean3256 This is the dumbest comment on this thread.
Yep, this works almost the same in the Netherlands. Healthcare should never-ever be related to have a job or not.
@@2stoves1 state run healthcare in most western nations is utter garbage. This has been established conclusively for any type of major injury, illness or disease: the USA is overwhelmingly better. Not to mention the sheer insanity of the taxes in those nations to offer socialized healthcare. This is why Europe is becoming africa 2.0
@@2stoves1 your "voluntary employer employee" relation is a big problem tho because it puts workers who f ex get pregnant, who are disabled, who are poor and need that job desperately,... at the pyre will of the employer to exploit them as they please
@@2stoves1 if that were the case, then how do you explain masses of precarious and poor people doing shitty jobs with lowest wages and under bad working conditions, being exploited for cheap labour, just because they need this job because state and society fail to offer them any better alternative. These contracts aren't truly voluntary, they're involuntary under the disguise of consent
@@2stoves1 why are women or migrantic ethnicities constantly in sn economically worse situation? You can say either they're on average less competent and dumber, or you can come to the conclusion that in fact individuals do not start with the same possibilities to acquire skills or use chances and possibilities or to do choices truly voluntarily. In fact, capitalism would collapse without the involuntary overexploitation of parts of our population
It's frustrating how some conservative-valued people in the US are so quick to call social safety nets like a one-payer medical plan "socialism". Anything that helps people they call "socialism"!
It's sad but true in America. Only if American politicians were FOR the people.
It's the same in most of continental Europe, I believe. I work in Prague (Czech Republic) and you can't be fired once you're on a permanent contract, except for redundancy or 3 warnings for major breaches.
FRANCE: We are not monster's😢
USA: Sombody said my name?
Which country is it safest to be a Jew in?
A: France
B: United Kingdom
C: Germany
D: United States
Hint: It's not located in Western Europe.
Bonus: Which country can you NOT Get fined or arrested for speaking out against the cause of the destruction of Synagogues and the assault of Jewish persons?
See list above.
(edited for grammar)
@@andrewpena9041russian bot ? american stupidity ? hard to know which one is true for you
The French aren’t monsters, and calling them monsters would be an insult to true monsters. The French are a far more deplorable specie
@@andrewpena9041 Have you seen America lately? With attacks on mosques and Jews in general over Israel’s actions, I don’t thinks Jewish people feel very safe here.
@aurorethebore I worked Armed security at a synagogue for a year. It was my favorite post. Anyway, Jews here in America have the right to armed self-defense. Also, we don't have a tone of male combat age "refugees" coming from the middle east setting synagogues on fire and assaulting Jews. Furthermore our own government doesn't fine us for pointing out the cause of the problem. I'd rather be a Jew in a land where I can legally defend myself and my property with arms of my choosing.
I once got fired from my dishwasher job for trying to call off sick. Was working there for over a year, and it was my 1st time calling out. I even had a doctor's note that I was contagious, and not to work around food.
Edit- I've been getting a lot of people questioning if this was true, and it absolutely is. I agree, doesn't make sense at all to fire someone you've been praising for over a year as your best dish washer, and is currently your only dishwasher after the other guy retired, just for calling out for the very first time with a 103 degree fever and a doctor's note.
No, it's not illegal per se, because I live in a no fault state, but I did speak to a lawyer. He assured me I had a case, and that it was a guaranteed victory, but since I'd only just recently become full time, I hadn't made enough for the settlement to have been worth the lawyer fees. Even in no fault states, you can still sue if you're fired for discriminatory purposes, like being black, gay or sick. That's how these companies get away with it, because they know people aren't likely to spend thousands of dollars just to say they were right.
If you were full time, you had solid grounds for wrongful termination and could have collected unemployment. They would not have been able to fight it.
@@AkazajiSadly, I'd only recently become full time. It was a small mom and pop shop, and when I got hired they already had another dishwasher who 5 of the 6 days they were open, so I only worked 1 day a week.
The owners and the 1 server always commented how they perfered the way I washed dishes though, since he usually would send stuff out still dirty with coffee and lipstick still on the mugs that had to be sent back to be re-washed, and my dishes always went out clean. He retired only a few weeks before I was fired, so I hadn't been full time long enough for a lawsuit to be worth it. I was assured I'd win, but the amount wouldn't even cover the lawyer fees.
@@MatsuyoRific It's really so fucking sad your country works this inhumanely
@@MatsuyoRific Sounds like your employers shot themselves in the foot! I can't understand why they would let a good worker like you go!
Unions may suck. But because of them if I get fired its because I was trying to get fired
“We are not monsters”.. WORD.
Hear that, America??
Tell me where you live and if you're planning to move.
I've tried explaining to my parents over and over that tying healthcare to your employer stifles the job market. People will take a crappy job they hate simply because it has decent benefits. If we had proper healthcare people would be less scared about starting their own business because not only would they have their own healthcare so would any employee they hire, instead of small business owners having to calculate what type of insurance they can provide and all the insane costs that come with it. Also people would able to work at jobs that they love that can't provide insurance due to the costs. And if you are between jobs you don't have to panic and grab the first thing you can find so that you can have insurance.
If you think government healthcare if a good idea, try going to the emergency room with a medicade card. Or go through an Indian reservation clinic.
@@paulmcclung9383I wouldn’t compare Medicaid or Indian Reservation clinics since it’s not universal healthcare and is primarily aimed at low income individuals and treated more like welfare. However, I would like an assessment of all the countries on Earth that do provide government healthcare to all their citizens and residents and get an analysis of its pros and cons. Perhaps learn from their experiences to see if there is a way we can provide government healthcare and not have it totally suck. The way social services works in the US, a lot of it gets outsourced to really expensive contracts (privatized foster care, disability support services, etc.) I know someone whose parents provide disability support services to their county government in a major US city and they are millionaires. There’s something very wrong with the way we spend tax dollars here that could be reformed and improved. Not to mention privatized prisons and crazy expensive defense contracts. Our government outsources everything on very expensive contracts while very little of the actual funds go towards benefiting the actual beneficiaries of said services. If we can come up with an alternative that has nothing to do with government healthcare yet also removing healthcare benefits being tied to employment… we may find a real solution. Andrew Yang has been pushing for basic income payments and has done the math. If we reallocated some of these wasted and mismanaged tax dollars towards providing everyone with universal basic income, we could pay for our own healthcare cost’s regardless if we’re employed.
But workers not feeling dread and anxiety 24/7 is literally communism and then Hitler would have won.
Do you want Hitler to win?
Do you?
You’ve never been to the VA.
@paulmcclung9383 that is literally because our government is intentionally horrible in the way they treat pretty much anyone on any form of goverment assistance or welfare in order to prevent people from wanting it. Why help people when you can use them as an example of why every else needs to work harder and for less pay without complaining?
In France we have contract called CDD or CDI. Employees who has a CDD when the boss wants to fired them they just wait 6 months because that contract is limited. But for those who have a CDI they can’t get fired easily because employees can attack them back in the prud’homme which is the court for workers.
How long may it take for a case to reach court when you sue anyody? Here in Spain it's 7 years on average, that's why few people dare to use judicial system.
US: no problem...I'll find another job tomorrow
FR: I'm f******d
"Right to Work" states in the U.S. are exactly like this. I worked at a college for 23 years, 18 full time with excellent evaluations. The president called over 20 of us into one of the new auditoriums and told us that he wasn't going to renew our contracts for the next year. We had to pack our things and leave campus, and we weren't allowed to come back without permission from campus police. I only got 3 months of unemployment. The school reposted most of the jobs at lower pay. On a positive note, I did get my Excellence in Service Award for my 18 years of exemplary service to the school before I left, so that was nice.
I saw this happen at my old workplace (a university). It didn't happen to me, but former coworkers (all older than 45) were told they lost their jobs and escorted out one day. One woman, very passionate about her job, had been working there longer than I'd been alive!! She was told she couldn't come on campus! Many of them had their whole identities tied to that university...
At will* everyone seems to mix the two up.
This little bank called CITIBANK wanted to come to South Dakota and part of the agreement for them to come was that we became an at will state. Try getting those benefits.
@@Codisrocks my state is both.
I can also QUIT any time I want as well. and that is how it should be.
My grandma died the day before I was suppose to start at a new job. She was more of a mother to me than anything and we talked almost every other day and it was devastating. The company allowed two bereavement days and when my grandpa needed help over the loss I took an additional day to take care of him. The company gave me a “Notice of Separation” that day. Not only had I lost my grandma, my grandpa was in a really bad state, but then I lost my job.
I'm really sorry to hear that...
Hope you're feeling better now✨
With stories like this, quiet quitting became a thing
Those are the monsters she is speaking about
GOOD U FOUND OUT EARLY THAT U WERE WORKING FOR A REAL POS COMPANY, COME ON PEOPLE DO BETTER.....
The flip side is when you take care of family better opportunites come your way later.
The downside is that it's much harder to find a job in France than in the US.
I've also heard horror stories from small business owners in France : one employee asked for paid time off for "injuries" that occured on days off and that lasted for 6 months, and another employee was also off for more than 6 months because she was pregnant. He and his japanese wife had to work non-stop because of that, they were exhausted and disgusted. Wife got fed up and left, he had to close his restaurant, because of lazy french workers who got paid for doing nothing.
This is not the only case. Some people will take advantage of the law, when you can't fire them it can turn into a long nightmare.
I lived in NYC, and people give you a chance more easily. That makes for a very lively place. In France things can be sluggish.
Health insurance is not tied to employment, because you don’t have to take the health insurance. It’s a benefit offered by the employer. It’s usually cheaper than getting it yourself though. While it is true that technically an employer can terminate your employment for any reason. It’s not as cut and dry as she makes it out to be. You can easily sue a company for wrongful termination. Most places try to avoid firing people at all costs, because hiring people is an expensive process especially in higher paying jobs.
In New Zealand, there is a dismissal process and a good reason must be given, otherwise the employer can be sued. Also, appropriate notice must be given, unless it's a case of serious misconduct. In any circumstance, the person losing their job is still entitled to any annual holidays etc. they are owed, in their final pay. Here, healthcare is not tied to your job either, as most medical things are covered by the government anyway, except about $60 for GP visits. If you're fired, you can get the job seekers allowance almost immediately, plus accommodation supplement to get you through. It's really sad that the US treats people this way, when they are so wealthy. I'm guessing it won't change any time soon, unless there's a mass push for it from the population.
I wish I lived in a country like yours. I'm currently in process of immigrating to US from Turkey and I'm scared that I made a wrong decision but everything is ready now and I speak English so I wouldn't be able to get by in other European countries I guess.
$60NZ is actually expensive for a GP visit in New Zealand. GPs in poorer areas get higher subsidies. If you want to save some money join a nearby GP in a poorer suburb. Mine is $19.
@@timurklc6912 There are quite a few people from Middle East where I live. English is one language spoken here - also in Australia. People seem to like Australia more I guess - if you want to make money because of the mines etc.
@@georgelane6350 I do live in a relatively poor area - it's just I can't change my GP right now - I'm on the waiting list to get one closer to home. But prescriptions are free, and I work full time, so I'm not complaining lol. I probably only go to the doctor once in two or three years.
@@martinemartin4779 mines are one of the worst offenders of health unfortunately. It's like smoking 2 packs and drinking 2 litres of alcohol on top of doing lots of drugs everyday
My favorite part about the US is they can let you go for any reason, except for discrimination, and they didn't have to tell you why. Ahh, if they didn't have to say why, then they can do it for discrimination, and you won't know... That is a hell of a loophole to be able to skirt the law.🤦♀️🤦♀️
Did you know that you must be in a minority group to file for discrimination. If you are white and work with a company that is all black and you get fired, the law says that this is not discrimination because you are white. I swear, this is true. I had an employment lawyer explain this to me. The idea is that, because you are white, you can not be discriminated against because you can always go and find another job.
It means you'd have to get a group of people together to establish that all the black women got fired or something
@@horsegirlb7120Yes but that is a very difficult claim to prove and the onus falls entirely on the employee. Whereas in France the employer is held accountable.
@@writejesss I agree, it's just not the scenario described by OP
I'm pretty visibly queer and I'm pretty confident my queerness plays some part in why I was laid off from my my recent job. I have no way to prove it.
Ich bin Team „Salat“. Ich mag weder Burger noch Pizza und bin damit totale Außenseiterin.😂
LOL!!!! Imagine your employer denies unemployment.
I was fired for being sick. Was denied unemployment because my employer claimed I was a no call no-show even though I contacted the manager to call off six hours before the start of my shift.
Ask the Unemployment Office if you need a Doctor's Note to Verify Your Sickness for that time period then. Hopefully you'll have one person backing you up if your Employer is trash.
😂😂😂
Yup this happens all the time
Send your call log to the unemployment office too!!
Contest it with unemployment. The job has to prove it and sometime they don’t even try 🤞
A+ on the French accent! 👩🏻🎨🇫🇷🥖
Annoying.
@@reelrocknrolla4251Better than a passive-aggressive American 😂
Meanwhile Macron: hey USA I wanna be like u 😢
Then he's out of touch because 90% of Europeans don't wanna be like the USA haha. Maybe we did 20 years ago but hell no anymore
Ne dis pas n'importe quoi, sous Macron le droit du travail s'est encore étoffé en faveur des salariés... je le constate régulièrement.
@@nicolasrenoult7824 Macron et sa clique ont finit de détruire la filière nucléaire qui était notre seule industrie de pointe.. J'en sais quelque chose..
I hear King Loui when u said that
I live and work in the Netherlands and it's pretty much the same here (like in France) too. The US is wild when it comes to hiring and firing.
As an American, I can confirm being let go from a job with no notice whatsoever and for "no reason" or in a way that is reprehensible. My daughter was in the hospital, seriously ill, and my employer let me go even though I begged and apologized for my small mistakes in the past. Absolutely heartless and cruel. I nearly had a nervous breakdown with all of the stress. Fortunately my daughter recovered but the trauma of being fired during that horrific time is still with me.
Edit: can y'all please stop squabbling in the comments, we're adults here, this isn't highschool. If you disagree with each other that's fine, but be nice or go somewhere else
Wow idk in America they could do that
WOW- It's almost like it's Their company and they can run it like they want.🤨
Wow, I’m sorry that happened to you. The employer based healthcare system is the worst.
@@raybarry4307 Wow it's almost like human being should be considered more important than a few dolars. Or that the time you give is worth more they want you to think.
@@raybarry4307yeah, that's why someone should govern them not to exploit people.
Ah yes, COBRA. I was offered that in the early 2000s and it showed i would have to pay $900 a month. How the F is that possible when the job I left was minimum wage !!??? Why do they bother lying about how wonderful it is for people to have when no one can afford it??!! Im guessing since 20+ years have passed it must now cost around $2000 a month or more
Yes. And the more the government gets involved with it the more expensive it gets
@@andycopeland7051yeah its almost as if the government represented people instead of corporations and the insurance companies we could have universal healthcare
@@Jack-px8lf that's just the thing. We don't live in the utopia you wish for. So the federal gangsters whip up the idiot people; the idiot people vote for their leaders; "universal healthcare" laws get passed, or at least something intended to move the system in that direction: the idiot people are promised now they can have hope that the system will be better; the healthcare system gets worse, more expensive, and less efficient (like everything the government is involved with ends up); the idiot people cry out; the federal gangsters ask for more power; things get worse.
@@Jack-px8lf furthermore I have no desire for the "universal healthcare" that is touted in UK or Canada. Sounds like a nightmare
@@andycopeland7051 yes, because U.S. healthcare sounds waaaaay better
I live in Romania, where the state of our healthcare is abysmal and I wouldn't want privatisation of healthcare for anything
Your countries system sucks, live with it
When i studied abroad in Francia i heard how difficult it was for employers to fire employees, even truly underperforming ones. The first thing i thought is that this makes the organizations full of underperformers and super inefficient.
So... are we (USA) saying we need to model ourselves after the French?! Yeah, no thanks. And there are many protections for employees in the US.
And when it is because of discrimination, they make up a reason.
Yup, you can never prove it was discrimination unless you have them on video actually saying something or have a ton of witnesses.
@@CookieCurlsWell, I guess they could try seeing whether employees of protected classes are being held to higher standards.
@aycc-nbh7289 which may put it into a class action status, but even if it doesn't, lawsuits can take years. Especially if it's a class action. Most people don't have money to fight big companies at all, let alone that long. Even if you win, lawyer fees will eat that up. If your lucky, you get a couple thousand, if not, you could end up owing
@@jackiehuff7736It would still mean that the damage that the corporation would be doing would be made known and they may be brought down as a result.
that's way easier to come by than you would think,@@CookieCurls. And while that's very idealistic to think an employee would never come out and say it, I have text proof from one I had to sue.
Last week I saw this happen in real time. My boss fired a co-worker. She had zero notice nor any indicators on her performance evaluations. Just showed up to work on a Thursday and was fired. I didn’t like her attitude nor really think she was a stellar employee; but I was certain she’d improve over time. She was average by all accounts. And boom. Zero warning. Fired.
It is absolutely insane to me that people can just get fired out of the blue in the US. It doesn't make any sense at all.
Where I am from you first need 2 (I believe, maybe 3) written warnings and on the third you get fired. And it can't be for just any shit either, it has to be properly not doing your job.
The only exception is if it is in a probation period or some things which aren't work related like assault or being drunk at work etc
Companies don’t have time for people to maybe develop lol. It’s not a charity.
You answered your own question. Attitude and average performance. Where I work, they actually have to put you on an "improvement" plan to show HR that they tried to work with you. Put you on multiple write ups, yada yada yada. Meanwhile, you're a total shtbag and other employees are complaining and using you as an example for their whataboutisms. Only time they quit you cold turkey is if you do something egregious to violate company policy.
Saying goes - you didn't get fired, you fired yourself.
Some states are 'right to work' states. They can fire you without giving you a reason.
@@DeathBlocks You know why it doesn't make sense, because it's unlikely. people don't get let go for no reason, there's always a reason.
@@1972Ray well sure, I assume it is very unlikely that it is really for nothing. But there is also a difference between you screwed up once or didn't do well enough once and you deserve to be let go.
But it could also be that these anecdotes you see on the internet exaggerate and actually someone messed up quite a bit or long term. I just personally feel like an employee should have some form of protection in the way of needing to receive warnings first before just firing them.
Same in austria, you shouldn’t have to suffer and you should have a chance to get to another job. If you dont worry about healthcare you work different and efficient. When you have to fear that your life is going down, you suffer so much. I‘m sorry for so many people that they have to experience that.
“We are not monsters”.
Take notes, America.
I was so shocked when I found out healthcare is tied to your job in the USA. Dystopian.
you are right. companies should not offer health care coverage. use the money to give raises instead. if you want health care coverage, buy it yourself.
@@thomaschristopher8593 I completely agree. If they were smarter, stronger, and had better work ethics they wouldn’t be looking for the government to bail them out with health coverage. It’s natural selection.
@@Curtis_GeorgeThis is such a dumb take.
@@cbgbstew4072 I'm attempting to match the energy of the poster above me. It's an incredibly stupid, inconsiderate and inhumane way to think of it.
People like him will call it the dirty C-Word to advocate for the well being of the working class. Somehow they think that identifying with the wealthy and their reality makes them appear more moral and responsible.
Same here in the Philippines. But the monthly for healthcare and social security is a bit lower. Also, we don't have to go to the GP to get to a specialist!!!! We can go straight to the specialist!!! Also, employers can't just drop us for no reason, they have to give you some time to adjust and find a new job.
"sacre bleau! Why am i being fired!?"
"Your attitude is not terrible enough. Hon hon hon"
Two fun facts :
- Last time you heard someone seriously say sacrebleu in France was a century ago.
- Nobody laughs like that
😂
Wth 😂 are those legit cliches about France? Doesn't make any sense.
Oh wait, you forgot to mention while being fired guy is wearing a beret hat and holding a baguette
@@Epintus06 😂
The correct saying is sacrebleu :)
"😮 COBRA....like as in deadly snakes?"
😂
Absolutely perfect. The scarf *chef's kiss*
Yeah....right.....discrimination. Employers can state something else to cover their butts.
Yeah, people physically can commit crimes, doesn't make it legal
@@georgelane6350but if they can fire you for any reason the crime is not enforceable, so in practice discrimination is legal.
No not really. If there has been discrimination, it is almost always apparent before the dismissal. Doctoring a false reason, or giving no reason, does nothing where actual discrimination was present. The purpose of HR is to discourage unsupported lawsuits.
@@CactusMuffin the crime is enforceable, it's regularly enforced through civil lawsuits.
@@cisium1184I take it you’ve never actually been discriminated against, because I have and it’s almost impossible to prove. Most people aren’t openly discriminatory at work, shouting slurs or something. Even if they did say something unless you have a recording or you have witnesses you have nothing. It’s like death by a thousand cuts, it shows up in small ways every day that are very hard to prove in court. And if you’re let go, they don’t have to give a reason. In fact they won’t give you a reason, it’s safer if they say nothing.
Not having a public (free and universal) health care system is so wrong! Why do people pay taxes?
To give money to army, and fund war in other countries, like giving money to ukraine and israel for examole.
Putting the government in charge of healthcare is the worst idea in history.
@@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628 but why? Many countries do that. Canada, UK, Sweden, Portugal, Spain, Australia... Even poor countries like Cuba and Brazil have it. I think that having a very poor system is still better than having nothing at all
@@llpBR Controlling medical care is a sure road to tyranny.
@@llpBR Because those systems, when compared to American Healthcare in actual quality, sucks.
It's a game of trade offs.
The best quality healthcare comes from countries without the government in charge of it.
Your voice is so soothing. I would love a video where you speak about your life advice in many different subjects. ❤
Same in all EU countries I think.
Its extremely difficult to fire someone here in New Zealand. Because of that, employees are forced to work with HORRIBLE coworkers. I cannot tell you how many people I have worked with that would have been fired in the US. It makes doing my job harder and way more unenjoyable. There are always pros and cons to every situation.
America has unions. If youre in one, expect that union to protect the absolute worst workers you'll ever see. But, on the other hand my raises are guaranteed and no policies can change without a union representative and a vote by the members. bout the best you can get here.
Go away with your logic and well thought out reasons. This whole comment section is supposed to be America bad lol
Contrary to what you expect, it's not typically bad or unpleasant employees who get fired. Unexcused absences are top, and beyond that it's more likely the good people will leave or get pushed out by the bad people because they have fewer options. People do not tend to like people who expect them to perform.
I worked with plenty of horrible people in the States. They are usually the ones that stay whilst everyone else moves on.
@thechaddingo2677 I'd always been pro union, still largely am, but one union job I had was so weird, the actual job was great and they protected a ton of break time and good equipment, but also if someone from another city moved to yours they were guaranteed x% of total work hours.
Needless to say three guys showed up at once and suddenly my full time job was 20 hours a week and I had to quit and take a non-union role.
Which ... worse pay, worse bosses, worse conditions, but I at least knew what to expect.
Helped a family.member with continuing health care after being fired. Coverage was for mother, father and three young kids. Cost me $1,500 A month. Fortunately he found employment after 3 months. Year was 2014.
«We don’t want unions! We are not communists!»
America is a corporation, not a country.
In Poland, when you don't have a job, you still can have healthcare, you just have to register yourself as unemployed. Everybody can loose their job at some time of life or become disabled and as a society we agreed years ago that we have to care for each other. This, as well as paid maternity leave or free higher education, is one of the good "side effects" that are left after communism.
USA has Medicaid for those in poverty. COBRA is just a continuation of existing insurance benefits which your employer has been helping you subsidize within a group rate... COBRA is a continuation of benefits, often without the employer subsidy.
I’m just here in the US, hating my country
None of the things you described are “communism”
@@SuperCreeper38 well, it was all done by a communist party. One of communist ideas is a classless society, where everybody's access to education, healthcare and other sources is equal. Of course it was delusional and people weren't equal in this system, but still, the paid maternity leave was a straight consequences of an idea that a woman is as valuable worker as a man.
That's not coming from communism, it's same in France and this country has never been communist. It's a social agreement where people at one stage decide to take care of each other as citizens
I feel for anyone who loses their job. In the US, in France or anywhere. Being unemployed is really tough. Especially these days when the global economy is unstable enough as it is.
They say it all with a smile on their face and an upbeat attitude too.
Zero compassion or humanity or heart or soul. Smh.
God help us IJNA 🙏🏼
Have mercy on your people God 🙏🏼
Help us Jesus 🙏🏼
In Jesus name We pray amen 🙏🏼
I LOVE the fake smile of the American HR woman. It speaks volumes.
"We would not do this, we are not monsters!!" 😂😂😂😂
tell that to all of africa
Germany: See you in court, I won't let my job go - you will give it back to me, believe me! (And I think it's beautyful 😁)
You forgot the most important part in France; « yes, I know you have a good chance of staying unemployed for the next ten years but I don’t care »
one of the downsides in France is that there are almost no permanent contracts anymore, only fixed-term contracts. which means if an employer doesn't like you, they don't have to fire you, they can just wait for the end of the contract and not renew it
I mean.. it sounds like that's the effective state of every employee in America though
and it hella sucks when they do wanna keep you but keep renewing the contract (not so legally sometimes) instead of giving the damn permanent contract; therefore you're stuck not able to do a bunch of shit including having a damn rent (let's not even talk about buying a house or new car lol)
This is really misleading to say there are almost no permanent contracts. 75% of the contracts in France are permanent.
Imagine comparing a term contract to at-will employment. At-will employment can drop your expenses at any time, so any credit you think you're fixing to continue paying, is actually turning into bankruptcy and total repossession.
A contract, means you know exactly how long you can pay for something for. One of those things not even having to be healthcare. And it doesn't sound like they can successfully make you think they're renewing but aren't. That would totally be a thing walmart would do to you in the US.
I'd rather have that tbh
It always amazes me that Americans can be fired on the spot for no reason. This cannot happen in any other post-industrial country. Tragically, my American friends find it difficult to believe ...
A lot of concepts are leftover from when we had a truly free market.
At-will employment? Used to be that anyone could start a business on their porch or in their car. Now you need insurance and notices and fees and Heaven help you if you try to start a trade in a union-monopoly's turf. Not to mention, self-employment taxes are BS. If you make more than $400 in a year, you're self-employed and must pay 14% on all that income.
Healthcare tied to job? Doctors used to be able to start a practice quicker, until the AMA lobbied the government to restrict the supply and thus artificially inflate the price. Not to mention, company benefits only really began as a result of FDR freezing wages in the Great Depression.
Double edged sword. It also can harm a business with a bunch of people only there to be warm bodies as I've seen in Canada.
France: celebrate freedom one day a year
USA: celebrate freedom for 365 days
enough said.
"we are not monsters" haha
Just so people here know :in France we got two main type of job contracts, CDI (Contracts with Undefined Duration) and CDD (Contracts with Defined Duration). While both have the same protection as shown by this short, CDD last for a certain time, usually a year, and can just be not renewed. Of course, we are always informed what type is offered and signed, so wecan prepare.
In the US we also have limited term contracts and undefined duration contracts (you're a contractor, not an employee, which means you are not able to get benefits such as health insurance) - you can also have limited term *employment* (like a seasonal employee) and "permanent" employment, which means you do get benefits from the company.
HOWEVER, regardless of your job situation and contract agreement is, the employer/company can still end it at any time, for any reason, with no prior notice, they don't have to tell you way, and there's zero repercussions to them for doing it 😃 wonderful country 😃
CDD can be renewed a few times (i think twice) unless you work in the public sector where, somehow, they can do it as many time as they want. Illegally but they can.
Some employers will prefer to hire people as CDD to avoid having to pay a lot of money if they want to fire them.
Once your CDD is finished you have up to 2 years (i think they are reducing it now) of unemployment money accouting for 75% of your gross salary (if i'm not wrong). However, if you decide to leave your CDI you'll need a letter from your employer called "rupture conventionelle" and a good reason (like a change of career) to be able to benefit from the unemployed status.
Either way, you get coverage from the national social security for your health for an unlimited period and coverage from your health insurance (the one that come as a complement to the social security and that is usually paid by your employer) for a year after ending your job.
Je vois très rarement des CDD qui avoisinent les 1 ans, je vois beaucoup plus de contrats qui durent moins de 6 mois
This almost made me cry. My husband was let go and the struggle to get back into some financial security has been incredibly difficult. I don't even want to think about health insurance.
Aaaaaaand this is exactly why youth unemployment is 10% higher in France…
Well... Spain is a good example of why you can only do that in very rich countries. Youth employment in Spain is atrocious, basically cause it's expensive af to maintain an employee and there's very little incentive to create more work, so you basically need to be 21 with 5 years experience and a degree if you want a shot at a Job.
But, if you get one, it's no France but it's very comfy.
Balancing what a country can or can't do it's complicated.
Funny enough I know some Europeans who want to move to the US cause they pay way more there.
Idk it's weird. I'm a third worlder so I've no point of comparison.