Bandkanon 1 self-propelled gun | The Swedish beast with a fearsome fiery breath
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- We are investigating the Bandkanon 1, the 155m SPG, which has the highest rate of fire. #Bandkanon #artillery #SPG
Why did Sweden need such an advanced SPG like the Bandkanon 1?
What were the superior features of the Bkan 1 compared to other artillery of its time?
How did the Bandkanon 1 achieve such a high rate of fire?
What were the shortcomings of the SPG?
00:00 Introduction
01:17 Historical background
02:20 Programme history
03:22 Design
05:04 Specifications (Bandkanon 1A)
06:05 Survivability
06:27 Mobility
07:11 Firepower
10:24 Bandkanon 1C
11:11 Retirement
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I saw this on a war thunder video and wanted to learn more. Fortunately you guys made a video on it.
Bland kanon 1c was one of our best tanks in 1967-2003
@@ww1_history_lover it still, this shit OVERPENNED everything including HE shells.
it's a mass murderer in war thunder.
Me 2... I saw it erasing things. ❤
Next up the 120mm Lvautomatkanon fm/1 anti-aircraft gun (sometimes called 12 cm lvakan 4501) that fires 47 rounds in about 40 seconds, another Swedish beast😀
Luckily we were smart, not to equip them with world devestaing warheads!
@@calleskurken9025 "world devestating"..? You do know that Sweden was developing tactical, NOT strategical nuclear weapons? A strategic bomb would not be able to be launched in something so small.. We were not going to end the world.. Just the invader on the battlefield with small nukes..
Damn, why Swedes armor designs are all so sexy?!
we are not corrupted
I think they worked together with German Engineers, both tank projects profitted a lot
@@trostlf2699they worked mostly with americans for a lot of their advanced technology iirc
@Weisior Check out Stridsvagn 2000, the prototype for a new swedish tank before Leo2/Strv 122 was bought. A brutal piece of work!
We Are a sexy people :)
Another excellent video. Please more Swedish systems
Now with bigger budgets and rebuilding of capacity it is time for a Bandkanon 2.
There is!
Always good to watch your video..Thanks for wonderful explanation..
Can you imagine modern version of this with GPS guided shells all firing on different positions that would be absolutely insane
Bkan 1 was nbc secured when i was in the army. Very good tho. Brg Sweden
The new Archer system is even mooaar awesome! :-D
Really the best system in the world right now
Only one problem with it, to few, thanks to Norway we got doubled up qty, but needs at least 3x more, at least 100 units, and have the ability to cooperate with longer range ammo defending in the coastal positions. And be complemented by more SP 12cm Mortars, and they should look up the LARS systems again, cheap fast and good for area denial. Perferct for the Home Guard forces to deploy against paratroopers, coastal landing areas. Maybe having Anti Tank rounds, to deny tanks access to certain areas. Maybe use the projectiles frm the Grg 48 Carl Gustaf system 84mm but no new ammo, just rockets to prope them and some tubing or lattice to get the airborne. Then You have anto troops, light, smoke, anti tank and what ever there is, maybe 2x6 3x6, range about 7 to 10km accurate out to 7km. They would be small enough to be hauled after a common car or a civilian 4x4 with a couple of reloads on the truckbed, 3 person crew.
@@dmg4415 There will anyway be 72 units soon as they ordered another 24 units in 2021.
@@johnnyakerman7000 Good, totally newbuilds or rebuilding of mothballed Haubits 77B?
@@dmg4415 Totally new ones as the Swedish army will establish another artillery regiment, called A9.
she’s a beast!
Thank you for a great video!
Excellent video about Sewdish self parallel cannon- SPG ( Bandkanon 1 )...made...video successfully coverage its historical- political background creates & clearly explained its characteristics including Sweden 🇸🇪 has atomic shells 🐚 for that battle field cannon...thanks ( weapon detective) for sharing this interesting video
Sweden never had and probably will never have a nuclear capability, so unfortunately no atomic shells. But is was planned for, and b-kan still have the capability to shoot them. 15 tactical nukes in a minute would have been very poor day for ivan.
The most interesting question is why this gun system didn't gain any traction internationally, given it's advantages.
I wish we got more info about that.
it did, this is the base for the famous Archer system, based on the same automated loading system which makes it the fastest in the world.
right now performing in Ukraine.
@@bjornnylander8754 yea, but the archer is, like you point out, a direct decent of the Bandkanon, developed in the same country by the same manufacturer.
What I'm unclear on is why such an impressive weapon didn't find any traction in the international market, or even inspired other, larger nations totry to develop something with similar capabilities.
@@gustavchambert7072 Too expensive to fully equip large armies like that of the USA, Russia or China. They all spend alot on air defense, airforce, missiles etc. Gotta cut corners where you can and its the regular army that suffers most from budget restraints. Usually in the form lengthy processes of replacing standard issue firearms, unifroms, basic equipment and artillery. Since its going to be produced in massive quantities.
It can also be due to doctrine. The US wont have to relocate their artillery because their doctrine assumes that the US will have air superiority wherever they operate. The air force and drones deals with any threats to their artillery.
Its equipment best suited for countries with small armies but also a sizeable budget to equip it with expensive toys. Now such countries are only a few in the world. Many small armies are small since the country cant afford much more. The successor to Bandkanon, the Archer system is something probably every army would want today. Yet its only Norway that bought it as they took part in developing it. Britain bought a few. Though the mother company to the one that makes Archer; BAE Systems is a British company might play a part aswell. And Ukraine uses it cause they got it for free. Looking at the history of every country that considered it, they all opted for less expensive systems.
@@glenglen6386 fair enough I suppose, though sweden had a similar issue of competing priorities, with a proportionally large air force etc at the time.
That's likely why they only ever had one regiment equipped with the Bandkanon, which was located right in the path of a soviet land invasion.
And while I agree that US doctrine likely relied on air supremacy and so on, I still think there would be ample room for a few specialised regiments in the org chart.
I can for example image that a regiment of Bandkanon would be an excellent artillery support unit for an armoured brigade on the advance.
More than that though, I would kind of habe expected that at least some armies would have figured that they might not always be fighting on their own terms, and that a unit that has such a combination of mobility and fire power as the Bandkanon offers would be almost universally useful.
But I guess that for large militaries, war can easily become a numbers game.
The built in ammunition crane was removed and was replaced by ammunition trucks that used their own crane to load the ammunition.
Should have included that better in the talks about the 1C upgrade.
3:00 hey look that Christmas tree is moving. Oh my..
great vid
great channel!
Out of this they made Archer system - beat that is hard - hope Wot will implement Ercher in the game - will be awaysome
Truly a beautiful machine
what a wonderful video thanks for sharing
last time i was this early Russia,Poland,Lithuania,
Norway was still a team fighting against Sweden
Question: The video mentioned the secondary armament as being a 7.62mm machine gun.
Wasn't Sweden using the 6.5x55 cartridge as their military round at the time?
2024 it is still the fastest firing artillery SPG in the world 👍🏻
Sweden had 28 systems in service.
Some prepared to fire tactical nukes.
I love anything S-Tank chassis
I Would love to see a modern verson of this.
Most modern howitzers have some form of automatic loading and enough burst RoF for MRSI. If you need higher RoF just go with an MLRS.
There is, the archer spg is the closest thing to the Bandkannon.
i just had a thought, These are really cool, the mite is just dripping, but my thought was, War really sucks. if those who send the young men there had to set foot on the field things would be much different. Bet we wouldn't see a war in that case. Facts!!
Wait till the end.
Wspaniala tradycja szwedzkiej artylrji .❤😂
Father 👨 of the Archer
Automatic
this one time in bandkamp....
For those feeling these 27 units maybe was a lame repellant against the russkies, if all were in about the same area, called "the northern lock", which they were, they could fire off ca 345 shells/minute across a vast area of intrusion, more than enough to make an inferno for the intruders. There were tactical nuke-grenades developed for it too, but deemed too dangerous as sweden scrapped their nuke program in the 50's.
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Sweden's spam cannon
An spam offer you can’t refuse ;)
I'd still like to see any sources for the claim that the BKan 1 was intended to fire nuclear shells. I am well aware that Sweden looked into the possibility of such shells during the domestic nuclear program, but there it was quickly discarded as it was deemed the cost in relation to the effect was far too high.
C-shells was a thing though. While none were produced per se, preparations had been made to have them out at the units within a week from the decision to deploy them was made, shorter if on alert.
@@MrFrogLicker69 I think I know which one you are talking about, though I don't recall it citing any sources for those claims.
Stefan Karlsson at Arsenalen-the Swedish tank museum, makes this claim too, in his video on this weapon.
I'd say he is an authority on the matter but I don't think he mentions a source in that video. Anyway, that might be a good place to continue this quest.
98 plus 2 :)
"Who, who, ...
Who you gonna' shoot wit' dat'" -Ice Cube
only if the massive turret of the Bandkanon 1B armoured mobile SPG could rotate 360°deg & a lighter gun was available without compromising the calibre . . .
Swedes be like, look around you, this is Scandinavia, the largest aircraft carriers in the North Sea, which you cannot have...
I want that as an mbt
We may say that the Strv 103 was the MBT variant of the Bandkanon. Here is our Strv 103 video.
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@@WeaponDetective I basically want a combination of an amx 13 105 and bandkannon
My God. 4 of these with nukes could nullify any Soviet threat within a minute.
Luckily we were smart, not to equip them with world devestaing warheads!
💖👍
We used to be such a fucking proper country
That's big mistake to retired this gun instead upgrade it year by year
We don't feel that way when we got Archer now
@@benghazi4216 But only 48. Why ditch 77B?
@@kimnilsson7501 The question is more, why only 48.
But sure, if we are only having 48 archers, we could at least keep some of these older 77B. Maybe for Gotland since they are so hard to move around.
@@benghazi4216 Only 48 is about the cost. But the cost for keep a lot of the 77B was next to nothing. Even old canons kill...
I’d think modernizing this for improved mobility and range would have paired well with the archer. You could have the archer for longer range, higher mobility, and higher precision strikes while having a platform operate simultaneously for the purpose of mass volumes of fire. I think if they had kept evolving and improvi the Bandkanon 1 it would have ended up being similar to the South Korean K9 Thunder but with a higher rate of fire.
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So a "gun" is less better than a "howitzer"?? Why??
Different from field guns, the howitzers have higher elevation angles. So they can fire a round to longer range and they can also act as a mortar
@@habahan4257 What about gun-howtizers?? Will that solve this issue??
@@oneshot2028 The gun-howitzers have direct fire capability like the field guns. The direct fire capability of the ordinary howitzers is practically useless.
@@habahan4257 So why don't militaries make gun-howitzers?? They can serve both purposes, right???
@@oneshot2028 Because it is complex and expensive. Many armies do not have the direct gun fire concept for artillery. The anti-tank missiles, tank guns, etc enough for direct fire support.
Wait till the same
जय श्री राम..
Nato wasnt a threat , Sweden yad agreement with US for cooparation and landing strips to be used in case of war.
take it from your bias, that you are Swedish.
Send to Ukraine 😁
NATO invade Sweden ? What are you smoking?
It was a possibility, not that NATO were an enemy, but if things went south they could possibly invade Sweden to stop So jet in the north.
This is what Sweden prepared for.
@@MrCastodian See what you mean. I reacted to the term "invade" which may not be the most accurate.
Nato and invading another contry.... check up on what nato is and was before you spout more bs...
you should be scared... as Swede i want peaople whom from diffrent religion. i want diveristy
Brawo szwedzi szkoda ze wycofane z linji . Do dzis nikt nie pokonal was w szybkosci strzalu z tych dzal samobierznych . Jak na tamte lata super .