NFS: Most Wanted Developer Proto/Build - Debug Menu 2 (X360)
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- čas přidán 2. 09. 2016
- My follow up to this vid, the ProStreet video (and damn the PS debug menu is long: • NFS ProStreet Prototyp... )
Sequel to the other debug menu video: • NFS: Most Wanted Proto... So i won't bombard you with the same info. Seems to be developer source. A friend of mine, Speedyheart is looking to port some stuff so probaly expect a video from her. Anyways, for people that are able to launch it, swap the German.bin with English.bin (aka rename the German.bin to something else and rename English.bin to German.bin in the LANGUAGES folder) Open debug menu by clicking right and the left stick. Open the debug world camera with Start on the 2nd controller. Link:
mega.nz/#!yl8QFbwL!42saJv_-3g...
Thanks to XeDK for the upload. - Hry
That visual filter option is basically the equivalent of setting visual treatment to low in the PC version. The X360's textures look better because EA actually tried with this version.
actually Blackbox intentionally reduced the graphics quality for the PC version intentionally to reduce system requirements
as GPU manufacturers focused more on getting out more polygons instead of shader passes, and VRAM was also quite limited.
At least the PC version has Xbox 360 models.
nevermind that comment about Xbox 360 models,
they didn't even do that
@@TorutheRedFox We're getting the assets now over time. There's already a mod that brings the Xbox 360 assets to the PC, though it still has some alpha issues (particularly at the shipyard). The textures are basically finished, though.
still doesn't change the fact that literally every model is missing vertex colors, which are used for ambient occlusion on cars in literally every Black Box version that is not PC, and on Xbox 360 is used to clear the screen on the bottom of the sky (by making the sky floor black)
@@TorutheRedFox well they re-used the rendering engine from UG2, so the PC version was already handicapped to begin with (on top of the changes later, like making the visual treatment colour values worse). Carbon on the other hand is very similar to the console versions of the game, unlike MW.
That VisualLookFilter looks awesome, man. In graphical terms, the 360 version is the better. I really wished that in PC.
Anyway, nice work, as always!
Looks ugly
3:15 - That truck has the BMW's paint XD
not really
but close
Even though I only own a standard 360, I'm downloading this so I can preserve it should anything happen to the link. The things I'd do though to play this game without that visual look effect, alot easier on the eyes.
(yay for responding to ancient comments)
You can also just turn it off in the settings menu on PC, it's called Visual Treatment.
Yep, something happened and file got deleted. Can you reupload the file, please?
link's dead, reupload plx
Link dead. hmu
mega.nz/#!JJxnwIhK!42saJv_-3gp3Ta1EWiL7Qy_lfzXFgRxnMaT81IFYRvc someone posted the reupload so here
Thanks for the credit man hope everyone enjoys.
"Today I have something special" he said hhaHA U HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL EVERY TIME! xD
Yet again, another great video
Debug menu is awesome, great job
4:19 you can also do this in Driver San Francisco
That debug menu should be ported to the Extra Options, if at all possible. It looks fun just to mess with that stuff :)
Also awesome video! CZcams only sends me notifications 17 minutes later. Damn you CZcams...
Most of the stuff from this build will be in Extra Options/Community Patch, from what i have heard. And thanks :)
+GrandTheftAero indeed it's fun to mess with
+GrandTheftAero Hi, what is this community patch ? (do you have a link ?) thanks :)
lol good luck trying to port PPC assembly to x86 assembly while caving code in the game.
I doubt we'll ever see a proper debug menu on PC. But that doesn't mean we can't play with debug functions left in release builds. :3
Someday, we will build a debug menu/trainer type of deal for BB games once we find everything that is left functional.
xan1242 Thanks for the info, I hope it happens someday.
Also nice job with the PS2 demos Xan.
Reupload link: mega.nz/#!JJxnwIhK!42saJv_-3gp3Ta1EWiL7Qy_lfzXFgRxnMaT81IFYRvc
Someone pin this comment please
U are a god, man thanks
Thank you a lot
Thanks!!! is that the Ps2 or the Xbox version?
I need the Ps2 or PC version
Not work too
this build is goode atleast 10 more fun than the ps2 build
wourld really like to see those graphics on PC
Someone should reupload this somewhere since Mega.nz now has limits per IP
this remix of broken sword is nutty, really cool debug menu too!
Camera Moves! Wow!
Nice video.Btw,where is rejii? (white lancer)
maybe he went to waterfront with Ming
Controlling your car while in the perspective of the cops looks so fun
Looks soo much better without the ugly filter
this definitely explains how people were able to make the 360 texture conversion mods. Did you play this on an emulator or an actual 360?
good video :)
The only version where the VisualLookFilter is off is the Gamecube version.
nope
it may look like it but that is because Dolphin breaks it`
actual hardware still has it
actually nevermind
looks like they couldn't manage to do it with it's fixed function API
or maybe they did idek anymore
Scatter Cops more like Emergency Evade From NFS World
the visual effect makes it look like the flat PC version
how to run this build on pc. I downloaded, I click on the launch shortcut, but an error flies. how to do it right and better.
We hopean full semi functional and loadable build of nfsc xbox 360 ( the one that seen in e3 gameplay eith hud) or ps2 or ps3, pc with opm demo design will leaked probably.
Port is started ?
Damn dude, this is finally going to make me want to play the 360 version again. Especially with the visual filter off, lol. (Btw Speedy is a girl? Wtf? Are you assuming Speedy's gender right now?)
well there is no proof of anything so...
GrandTheftAero I'm triggered right now, don't you sexually harass me like that.
StewiebossFTW hugh mungus
GrandTheftAero SECURITY, WHY AREN'T YOU DOING SOMETHING TO CATCH THAT GUY WHO SEXUALLY HARASSED ME.
Please you can post again for download NFS: Most Wanted Developer Proto / Build - Debug Menu 2
Are there any hidden debug stuff which can be accessed on the retail xbox360 version?
Thanks for this :} has any work been done to it? also link is dead is it possible if i can get link? thanks
But yea, all I need is the textures and lighting to be ported into the PC version.
hey mate i just downloaded the ps2 emulator and xbox 360 emulator too do i need a ps2 controller,xbox 360 controller to play games on these emulators?and will this build work on the xbox 360 emulator? also love your videos keep i it up!
Gamer Dude no you can play with keyboard but you can also use ANY controller (better if it has analogs) I have PS2 emulator and i can use my Xbox One controller you just need to keymap the buttons to emulator
thanks man you really helped me out :)
xbox 360 emulator is inearly creating stages, so it needs a good pc and this game will probably not launch.
Do you still have this? The file is no longer available :(
Damn :/ I want a Need for Speed Most Wanted Remaster with a bit of a extended map and some free roam multiplayer :/ I wish a remaster would also come with vulkan :/
Is it possible to put this menu in Extra Options?
I WANT TO DOWNLOAD THIS BUT THE LINK IS BROKEN AERO HELP ME MAN IM DYING TO PLAY THIS!
Can this "VisualLookFilter Off" thing be achieved on pc version?
Goblan its one of the options in the graphics settings
Lol I didn't know you could switch the filter off on pc! Gonna try it now. Thanks!
Can you explore that long bridge? I can't remember where it was located tho lol..
No, if that was explorable it must have been cut wayyyyyy early in development.
With the debug camera i mean
For everyone asking why the 360 version looks better than the pc, it's because the 360 version was the last version released and was a lot more polished
JeffJordan24 thats false
it was the last version released, sure
but that is because of issues that were only on the 360 making Blackbox delay it by literally a week
@@TorutheRedFox The issue being that the 360 wasn't released yet. It would have been weird to sell a game for a console that was one week away from being released.
yessss
wonder if it's now possible to get the 360 graphics on the PC version
nope
not at all
the game is using a completely different renderer that doesn't use a lot of the effects that set the Xbox 360 version apart from the PC version in visuals (the most notable things that are missing are a lot of particles because they use a particle renderer that the PC version just doesn't have and HDR)
@@TorutheRedFox but the over bright effect sort of acts as HDR
@@ManLikeEddy not really
Xbox 360 has proper tonemapping
All the parts have a "damaged" version? Is that what I'm seeing? O_o
Nonetheless, player damage would've been cool to have too.
I think they were planning to add a feature to damage cars with damage models but they probably scrapped it because of licensing issues like car brands dont want you to see their cars getting destroyed in a video game, explaining why we only got winshields being broken, while cop cars have a damage model probably meaning it was intended to be added to every car in the game. Or maybe because it was too hard to implement or they just didnt have time before the release date.
can you reupload it? link is down and i cant find it anywhere
Let me guess your favorite car is db9
Sadly, the file got removed...
Hello, *GrandTheftAero* ! Port this Debug Menu on PC Version Game NFS Most Wanted (2005), please. Nice work!
So if I put the texture files from the 360 version in the PC version, will they work?
Antonio Pompò No, 360 has a different texture format and compression than PC textures
Ah, too bad.
the texture format itself can work on PC
but the actual archives are slightly different in format (PC states texture formats used in the archive header while Xbox 360 doesn't)
God I wish the 360 version didn’t have that obnoxious yellow filter, “VisualLookfilter”
it's not an "obnoxious yellow filter", but it's literally every bit of post processing that happens in the game
I wonder if it's possible to RAM hack the retail version in order to turn the VisualLookFilter off.
what do you mean by retail?
if you mean by PC then there is literally an option for it in the video settings menu, and if you mean by PS2 then there is a debug ELF on the disc itself
I mean the retail 360 version.
xenia canary running?
+grandtheftaero, the link is dead,can you upload nfs mw beta again?
Instruction how tu run it on xbox 360?
Can I get the debug menu on a retail disc and use it on a 360S?
no
This don't work on retail rgh. I'll try create a retail xex file using the game files, It maybe work!
Hey man, I got a question, I got a hold of an Undercover beta (Closer to launch than the one you showed), and I tried launching it with Xenia (Xbox 360 emulator. Can run .xex files), and the game loaded in and all... But all I had was the HUD with a black screen. No sound, no anything. I tried disabling demo mode in the config. Again, everything loading and the game thinking the cut scene was playing (Again, just a black screen) at the beginning of the game, but after it seemed to be over, it gave me control of the car, but again, black screen. I could see my HUD and it was working fine but I couldn't see the world or my car. I'm guessing it's an issue with Xenia (Most likely), but maybe you could somehow know a fix? Idk. I just want to mess around with it :V
It must be the same build. What's the name of the .xex?
"NFS_Underground_Beta.xex"
Trypticon8 From Assembler, huh? Yeah thats the exact same build.
Ah ok. Well nothing much I can do right now. Thanks anyway.
Trypticon8 Xenia isn't really eh...well playable with NFS. NFS will prob be playable in 2-4 years is my guess
link is broken m8 help
Are you dutch?
Can this be played on the PC and is there a link to the ported PC version?
this is a dev build of the X360 version, of course you can't play it on PC
though you can port some of the files to an existing PC copy, but it's mostly the same anyway
where i find the download
The game won't run on Windows 10, says i cant run this app on my pc. any suggestions?
so.. I need to have X360/emulator of it with this thing called devkit kernel to run this somehow ?
I know this video is ancient but pls respond someone xD
yep.
it's an Xbox 360 game lmao
@@TorutheRedFox damn bro this video is 4 years old and you still replying
What does the Override Police Formation do??
there are many formations that cops go into based on situation (and RNG if there are more than one formation for a situation) and that option allows you to force cops to use only that formation
just port the graphics and im satisfied
Makes u wonder why PCs got somewhat worse gfx...
this game's GFX heavily rely on the CPU, and they probably bottlenecked the game to make it run on lower-end hardware (to boost sales probably)
Hey GTA, I'm gonna recreate the debug menu on PC. I want to ask you about exact colors and width/height of debug menu "window". Thanks.
I really wouldnt know the exact width or height. The correct colors would be black (for the window)/yellow (for the edges) I really don't know why the 360 debug menu looks like that, it shouldn't be.
Can you give me some screenshots of the menu then? Without any scaling/filters/etc.
heeeeeeeeey
It would be super cool.
i know why it looks like that
the RGBA values are reversed;border should be 255,255,0,255 (yellow) and center should be 0,0,0,255 (black), but it's being rendered as 255,0,255,255 (pink) and 255,0,0,0 (red with 0 opacity)
the reason why the red still shows is because they then override the alpha value with the set opacity of the menu background
Vídeo starts in 1:39
Because it's too much to watch a 1 minute short introduction segment that answers any possible questions people may have after the video?
if you could only do this with nfs world.
the folders you can port to pc version?, in this say FX, Cars, Global, you can send this folders o port to pc?
kinda yes
+GrandTheftAero im see, in the xbox 360 version uses a more modern shaders than PC, this is the reason i need this Folders, "Cars, Frontend, Global, fx, Tracks" you can send my a Link of this folders in Mega?
eh it probaly wont be of use to you as most files need porting, i would just recommend downloading it
the nfs modders are gonna do alot with this stuff, im sure of it
+GrandTheftAero no matter , I know how these types of files work and try to port it my way, and I did it with World to Carbon , i port some shaders and files of Cars like Clio and Viper
Please
LInk is dead
hey i have a question. how do i prevent xenia from crashing
Well, 1 year later but, hes using a real xbox 360, not a emulator
How to get this console on PC?
theoretically, yep. xenia is the one x360 emulator in world
So can you mod this version of the game?
Kind of, only at the time of the video, i dind't release alot of the X360 stuff had different hash systems and compressions and file types, so, kinda, but again not really.
GrandTheftAero ok. It's a sweet build anyway, so I downloaded it.
I hope that Most Wanted, Underground 2, Carbon and Hot Pursuit 2 come to backwards compatibility on the Xbox One.
so does this mean X360 GFX for PC? :D
kind of yes
Nah, the dx9 renderer is likely limited to use pixel shader 2.0 only so you won't see it (unless the compiled shaders from this build work on PC in 3.0)
emulation?
backwards compatibility?
does anyone done this GFX for pc already?
+Noskillx I did something that looks like it
hey how can you lauch the game?looks cool but i dont have a xbox 360.
you need a 360 that runs on a devkit kernel
i dont understand cause i dont have it and i'm not use it before.Is there anyway to port this debug menu?i want that menu.
He means that it needs to run on Debug Hardware than the current Xbox 360 you have, even a modded Xbox can't do this., which the kernel runs on the hardware is the software that is used.
It is hard to find these types of consoles, and are usually expensive stuff to use, but are practical for developers use back then, and it still continues today.
If we had a emulator that could run these ISOs it could be easier to use these development discs and other stuff for research.
no i mean i want that debug menu.
Wait for the Extra Options or Community patch, I bet they are still working on it, just give them some time.
So in theory, this means that it might be possible to port the debug menu to the PC, right?
Yes but it probaly won't be that much of a use since most of the debug stuff/symbols are already there
Really? Interesting. I've never seen a debug menu on the PC version, so this comes as a surprise to me.
Not an actual menu, but most of the debug features from the menu, or atleast the useful ones.
That's awesome to hear. Nice video, btw.
This won`t work on your unlocked Xbox. I tried.
Mindaugas GT you need RGLoader for your RGH for it to run lol. betas dont run on retail kernels. You need to be on an xdk kernel.
i know. but i dont want to kill my xbox
Mindaugas GT if you have xell not much could go wrong
What the hell is that! 4:10
Teleporter
Can u Upload it again ?
mega.nz/#!JJxnwIhK!42saJv_-3gp3Ta1EWiL7Qy_lfzXFgRxnMaT81IFYRvc
Mindaugas GT i love u 😍
just downloaded it too :D
Mindaugas GT xbox or PC Version ? Because there is a xex and a exe
xbox only and its only running on devkits unless you pach the xex
Someone reupload the file please
mega.nz/#!JJxnwIhK!42saJv_-3gp3Ta1EWiL7Qy_lfzXFgRxnMaT81IFYRvc
thank, do you have the nfs pro street one ?
nah
Why does he keep writing "didn't" as "dind't"?
Brenten Spencer Because Ok
Yeah
Mega.nz fucking deleted it.
TheLazyWanderer assholes.