Suspect removed from court after outburst in indecent jail exposure case
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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2017
- Jivonnie Ramone Jones is exited out of the court room after he was held in contempt of court during his preliminary examination for a charge of indecent exposure at the Muskegon County Courthouse in Muskegon, Mich. on Tuesday, Sept. 5, 2017. Jones has also been charged with first degree criminal sexual conduct from a February incident. (Joel Bissell | MLive.com)
"A wise man speaks because he has something to say. A fool speaks because they have to say something."
NICE
Hmmm
......🤔
Let's face it, he's an imbecile, an anthropomorphic imbecile. I've seen people like this on a public transport- disgusting.
@@luthermcgee432 I don't think he's an imbecile, he's just not a morally sound person.
@@aspiknf , I can buy that. I just don't like interruptions in the presentation. A poor choice of words on my part. Thanks.
"I had the right to remain silent....but not the ability..." Ron White
I love Ron lol
You mean "Tater Tot"? LOL I love that alias.
I’ve never quite looked at a cheese wheel the same way again...
"I'm not even supposed to be in jail!" ~ said The Felonious Fool Pervert..!!!
My Alias is… Tater Salad… this is my son Tater Tot😂😂
What happened is... he talked to one of his jail house lawyers. And they told him what to say.
Rs smh
4 men to a cell...........one is always a lawyer to help you out with your case
Yeah, they helped him right into more jail time lol.
He is trying to control the situation. Stupid thing to do. He needed to let the pros do their thing and throw his 2 cents in at appropriate times.
God bless this man
Imagine all the teachers that have to deal with this kind of behavior day-in and day-out for *years*...
Yes, no parent ever taught them to STFU when one is caught doing a bad thing and that no amount of talking BS will get them out of it. And of course, one will have a chance to speak but this a preliminary hearing, an opportunity for the prosecutor to convince the Court that there is sufficient evidence to support the initial charge(s),
Some people just don't know when to shut up.
They keep diggin deeper .......................
Lack of impulse control.
Actually, we should be grateful that this is the case with this POS!
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There's an age-old saying back in Texas..."Never miss a good opportunity to shut up."
This is what happens when you drop out of the 6th grade.
RIGHT? I HAVE HIM CREDIT TILL 8TH. BUT 6TH IS PROBABLY CLOSER
JJL Tactical Solutions 6th grade? You’re being generous. He didn’t even graduate from moron school
He didn't drop out, he flunked out. He did his best, but just couldn't handle addition.
There will be no mercy for those who have not shown mercy to others.
He never made it to the 6th grade. I hope he stays away from the rest of us forever.
They should let him represent himself. It would make the prosecutions job so much easier!
He would have a fool for a client.
It doesn't make anything easier for anyone, it makes for scenes like this one!
I don't know about other states but in Texas u can't even breath too hard when in court it could end up in a extra charged
Way to go, he will get a light sentence, insanity,
And more fun to watch
He has the right to remain stupid
He exercises that right very well. Should have stayed in school.
michael taylor everything you say can and will be shown on CZcams
Preferably IN jail ............
And he takes full advantage of that right 🤗
The future's up to him,
So let him be that dim --
Dare to be stupid!
Dare to be stupid!
Let me know when the English version comes out.
Vinson Young XD
@First Last what? Speak up
@First Last I don’t speak inbred bro
@First Last Quit sticking needles up your arm and learn to read bro
@First Last lol you’ll get what’s coming racist :)
"I'm not supposed to be in jail".
Well, nobody's "supposed" to be in jail, but unfortunately, we have citizens who cannot conform to the rules of society and "need" to be in jail.
Well said.
hrsqsiest that's not always true. Some people get wrongfully accused.
I'm not supposed to be within 500 metres of jail. Turns out they don't like you selling their details to North Korea...
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@liebstandarte jagermeister heres another fucking dumb ass right here lmao . You proby posed 2 b in jayle n shit 2. Hahahaha
A person who represents themselves in court has a fool for a lawyer!
Especially when they cant form a coherent sentence.
If you have an attorney with you in court, you do not open your mouth unless directly asked a question. Speaking for you in court is what an attorney *does*, precisely so you don't make an ass of yourself and put yourself in worse trouble, like Mr Not The Sharpest Bowling Ball In The Rack here.
* Client
A person who leaves a well-known funny quotes as a comment, has a moron for a typist.
A person who represents themselves in court, is not recognized as a lawyer. He can be charged with perjury. A lying lawyer can not be charged with perjury as he took no oath to tell the truth. Neither does d. a. Nor judge.
I bet he kept the stenographer busy.
Wil Robles there needs to be a separate key for ummmm, ahhhhh and 'know what I'm saying'.
Mike Hughes With the amount of nuances in languages, there may have to be many new keys.
With a bunch of..um's
😂😂
i feel like at that point, the stenographer could just copy+paste "Defendant spouted nonsense" over and over. (i know they cant, its a joke, chill!)
Judge should have thrown him out sooner.
@JusticeAA Exactly. Judges don't like the idea of their convictions being overturned on appeal -- appellate judges overturning convictions have a way of publicly pissing on the trial judge from a great height. It's one of the great traditions of the Bar.
So they do their best to appeal-proof their convictions by being scrupulously fair even to the point of seeming indulgence.
P S C You must be a court employee or 🐷
Agreed. I was just asking the same thing.
@@Tindometari That actually makes sense, didn't think of that since I've noticed a lot of judges tend to let things go on for awhile before putting a stop to it. Unless it's physical violence, most judges actually seem to let a defendant talk themselves into more jail time before putting an end to their rambling probably due to time constraints and also no one wants to hear someone blabber about stuff they have no idea about.
"I have the Constitutional right to be absolutely stupid beyond stupid. To declare and expose my ignorance to the world. In addition to all of that....let me repeat myself."
What does he expect the judge to say?
"Ohhhhh sorry! We had no idea! You're free to go"
Lawyers should recognize when their client is this ignorant and before court remind them things are done is a specific order and to not wait his turn to speak will always destroy their case. Even if they win a case they will get hit with CONTEMPT and face jail time for not waiting their turn to speak.
Knox ha Haaaaaa
@@nunyabuisness7552 The problem with this idea is he was attempting to tell the judge he didn't want the lawyer to represent him. He has that right, but the judge didn't want to hear it.
yes, that's exactly what they think
you know, um, you know, um. can't understand a thing he says.
You forgot to say um at the end.
It's okay, neither does he.
He also said "know whum sayyen"
It was like uhhm he didn't uhhm want there to uhhm be any pause while he was talking so the judge couldn't get a word in, uhhm.
Well uh umm I wuz sayin uhh 4th amement ummmm WE WUZ KANGS N SHIIIEEEEETTT JUDGE
Scratch jail off of his bucket list. Next up, Nobel Prize in Physics.
Captain Atheist Noble Prize in Articulation and Thought Processing Theories. Lol
I'm still laughing 😂
Why not, obama got a nobel prize for doing nothing, this guy might as well get one, too!
@@ericpl7227 I thought the same
Hey, ole boy in Florida saved himself from the death penalty and life without by being his on attorney, the jury felt sorry for him, now he has a chance for parole
the whole time hes talking the judge is probably wondering what kind of wine she is picking up on her way home...
😭😭😭
Tuning out morons is a skill often picked up in the criminal justice world.
I don't think she was tuning him out. She was listening to be able to charge him correctly, and know when he crossed the line and could legally be removed.
Shit, what kind of heroin and meth!!
"I'm not even s'posed to be in here."
Ummmm... doesn't *every* defendant say that??
Not the smart ones. The smart ones let their attorney do the talking and keep their own mouths shut.
They break the law then quote the Constitution about their rights. 😁
How do you know he broke the law?
@@drrichardpaul he is accused of breaking the law.... Then quotes constitution about his rights. There.... Is that better?? But he wasn't necessarily quoting the constitution.
How NOT to behave in court!
Darwin s dixon
Sounds like he's been dropped on his thick skull.
From the height of a thousand feet
Lol
“It’s one thing to have people think you are a fool but it’s another thing entirely to open your mouth and confirm it.” Mark Twain
That's the NIV version. Lol.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.
The quote is attributed to several individuals including Twain, but there's no evidence that any of them coined it.
My guess is that it was taken from the bible and rephrased.
I didn't understand a word he said
BH: "Bathrooms" was the only intelligible word.
Brandon Hopkins Think he said those famous hood words "i didn doo nuffin" he had coleslaw in his mouth.
You should have learned to speak Ebonics. It is the wave of the future.
Brandon Hopkins Sumpthin sumpthin bout da baffroom.
his big lips started bouncing off each other he was speaking ebonics any ways
At least he didn't whip it out in court and say "defense exhibit A" .
He had a blonde hottie attorney next to him and an attractive judge. And he got charged for exposure in jail with dudes??? Wait wait. Hold on...what?
Lmfao 🤣 that is fucking wrong 🤣
More like exhibit D
" I'm not even supposed to be in jail " famous last words , literally ......pun intended ....lol
@Ron Stidham EXACTLY
I love the he ending:
Judge: thank you sir
I prefer to think she was addressing the bailiff.
Stenographer earned her paycheck that day
she couldn't find the buttons for half of what he said.......
How did she under stand him?
A total MVP
"I'm not even supposed to be in jail" LOL
No you got it wrong. He said
I'm not even posed to be in jail lmao
And once again I remember what my Mother used to say..."Empty heads make a lot of noise". Just how stupid can one person be? He's in trouble, then he complicates it by getting into more trouble while in jail...now he decides to be in contempt of court? Unbelievable.
He will be in contempt for maybe 2 days at most the court will not waist time in this fool, hes actually kind of smart to say what he wants to say, they will not delay the charges and court proceedings for him being in contempt, 2 days maxx
@@leebraddock8624 Who knows, he could've gotten away with contempt later that day since I've seen other videos where a defendant is held in contempt and taken out of the room but then some time later they're brought back into the room and the contempt charge is dropped after the defendant apologizes. I agree though, if he really did go to jail, it was probably no more than a couple days.
What's all this crap about baffooms and the 14th ameenuts?
That's officially the one they picked as the end of the real constitution and the start of the corporate company or whatever. Ironic because it was actually the amendment that made sure everyone has equal rights regardless of race.
if you have to say "um" at least 3xs per sentence, perhaps you shouldn't be speaking at all.
HEBREW MAN - I partially get what you're saying but I do not fall in your "low IQ" or "mentally retarded" category. That was extremely offensive. I am a smart, college educated black woman with a very above average IQ. I have always tested in the mid to upper 90s percentile on any standardized test I've taken, (including college prep exams like the SAT and ACT). I even went to an elementary school for gifted children. I don't think this man's problem wasn't necessarily that he is not smart, but too nervous and ill prepared.
jssangel416 thank you sister for putting this ass hole in his place, I was also highly offended, we as a people have so many bright minds and for him to say that it just blew me away. I get what he's saying to but not most black people, come on now.
Keith LaBarrie - In my opinion, he's one of those people who are so smart they are stupid, lol.
jssangel416 LMAO
Y'all do realize that HEBREW MAN is a white person posing as a Black person right?
If he thinks he knows the laws, then why does he break the laws?
steve b Two points: 1) That has nothing to do with what Ken Wanlass said regarding why he breaks the law if he claims to know the law so well, and 2) no one said he didn't have those rights that you mentioned. Just because you have a right (such as the right to represent yourself) doesn't mean you should. Rights aren't necessarily like muscles where the more you use and flex them the better it is.
They don't mind breaking laws. They just don't want to be punished for breaking them. Our taxes will go to furnish room and board for this ignorant creature for the rest of his life.
@@mikehughes6582 Exactly. Those countries that have laws where you get your hand chopped off for stealing have extremely low rates of stealing. I always thought we should Take a page from that book
What a dumbass comment. Plenty of people who know the Law, also breaks it. Where da hell have you been? Lawyers ,Judges, Police Officers. Those are the ones who break it the most, because they know it, and think they can fool everyone. They just either don't get caught or they're giving a pass & Privileges.
Good point.
He has the right to
Shut the he'll up.....
Honestly, how do they think by interrupting and talking over the judge that they are going to get their point across? All they're doing is pissing her off! Yea, that will help their case!
Sounds like he's right where he needs to be.
Right?! *insert eyeroll here*
Or left where he needs to be
Judge: "Talk to your drop dead gorgeous attorney"
Moron: "No, I'd rather talk myself into 90 more days of jail"
First. sixth. eighth. and fourteenth amendments? Why did`nt he just throw in the whole constitution.
Well clearly he was attempting to depict solely the applicable rights..
Couldn't count that high
But his rights was violated
You forgot the 30th, 40th and 50th -100th Constitutional Commandments
Off hand, does anyone know what those amendments are concerned with?
He’s distracted because he’s got his Beats earbuds on and is jamming to some Barry Manilow.
James Johnson lol!
That's an outburst? They should have taken the earbuds out of his ears and made him listen.
Best comment
Have you ever seem video shots of the Nuremberg trials? His translators are advising him of what’s being said through those earbuds.
“I got 2,6,8, 10 ammendment rights”
How rude of him..Should have talked to attorney about concerns long before interrupting the court
If your name is Jivonnie you're guilty of SOMETHING.
Glad that you're amused!
That boy doesn't learn does he ?
BOY!!!!!!
I used to have to deal with the middle school version of this. "No" is an unknown. They seem to think they win if they can tell their friends that they told off the authority.
I have noticed the same attitude and joy of victory when older white women demand a discount because they see a minor flaw in an item they wish to purchase, and they get it.
"....and I told that manager....." Widow Smith says to her bridge club!
Thanks for the court tape.
he broke the Law and said hes not suppose to be in jail ?🤔hmmm
thats odd..
HOW DO U KNOW HE BROKE ANY LAW?
@@tkso.philly3879 Oh, please. *rolls eyes*
Teka Hinson III he’s black
@@apexsteppa1156 I hate to say it but people's racism is REALLY showing in these comments. Just because you are in court doesn't mean you broke a law. The whole point of court is to determine if you did. I am appalled at the amount of people who are dissing this guy simply for attempting to make his case on the record while the judge is trying to prevent him from having a fair hearing.
Ken Deavers yea but you still will remain in custody unless you pay them to... shit fucked up
Gotta love how the crotch rot thinks. If he keeps talking it must’ve been true lol.
His attorney should have grabbed a bailiff right away to send him back to his cell. She did a poor job keeping him silent
Pretty hard to force someone to keep silent. A defense lawyer has no authority to tell a court officer to remove anyone from the courtroom.
She was way to passive...almost like she was scurred of him
Angela Hagerman Maybe she was. In any event... this isn't the type of person that anyone is going to be able to reason with and get calmed down. He was bound and determined to interrupt and be disrespectful and speak out of turn, just as he did, and no matter what any lawyer, judge, or court officer said to him, he was going to continue acting up. That's why he had to be removed.
What do you want her to do, personally ball-gag him? All she can do really is shush him, or warn him that this is a really bad idea -- but I think she's already figured out that warning's lost on him. So she does her best until the judge decides she's put up with enough.
@tvercetti1 Please cite that law for me.
Some people are their own worst enemy.
Legend has it he’s still saying umm
He said "Uuhhhh" 15 times.... I don't know why I counted
Exactly! Why did u count... and never hope such a Situation for u. Wlink 😁
Because you care!!!! Ahh!!!!
OCD.
Or was that rhetorical?
He wants to represent himself, then he has a fool for a client.
you know what i dont understand... people break the law all day everyday, when they get caught all of a sudden they start to speak about the law
That mentality is common. In Southern New Hampshire, the scumbag class that like to break the law have a saying, "It's legal if you can get away with it."
Some of them actually believe that's true.
This guy was 100% stalling, no way he would be saying all that mumbo jumbo for no reason.
The best contempt of court i seen. He was fintoo talk forever.
Fina' tawfeva, no'whusayn
Boy if he knows all about the Constitution how come He is not doing something intelligent and not being handcuffed and interruptin the judge.
I know these people... dude has the nicest judge the nicest lawyer and the nicest bailiff and still messes up...
That's The best court cam I've ever seen
You can ask the judge for a minute for legal counsel and to be able to tell his lawyer about what happened so he could get his side straight. That's what she's there for.
Bye Felicia!! A great example of the “Welfare mindset”, his weak attempt shut down!! Thank you your Honor. 😊
Lock him up and loose the key. Color problem again?
LOSE!
Tape his "dam" mouth up'
I was trying to um, I was um, I was about to um, talk to um, about to um, yeah um, I have to pee um
He can’t bring anything up at his trial about what goes on in the jail just relevant to his case. He still hasn’t learn about court procedures from the last times.
Just lock that clown up
For his own sake, this guy should plead for the death penalty.
anyone home 😂😂😂😂
Uhm, uhhh, uhmmm, represent myself, um so uhhh uhmmm, testify
Uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhh uhhhhhh
Contempt of court when the dude just won’t stop talking 🤣🤣🤣 I’m not even suppose to be here judge 🤣
Why isn't he telling his attorney about his side of the story. That's what she is there for.
He has the right to remain the 1 out of every 3. Lmao
He's really intelligent! He must have went to law school for pre schoolers. His vocabulary is stellar and should be recognized by scholars all around the world
He got 62 to 90 years in jail well done
Yeah. Spell Constitutional. Exactly!!!
Oh damn, they put on the blue gloves!
What do the blue gloves mean?
@@aspiknf They're trying to not catch any disease or parasite he might be carrying.
@@kenolson6572 Thanks! :-)
He just wanted to keep rambling on lol
This guy is just making things worse for himself. Consult your lawyer first buddy.
Oh my he has notes🤦🏾♀️
It’s a sad state of affairs when a young man who really wasn’t raised. Doesn’t have a father. Instead Raised by the streets and there’s only once direction one life, a life of crime and despair.
You be havin da right to talk yo mouf right into jail!
"grab your shoe."
"I aint strugglin.. why you.. why you..."
He’ll NEVER know “just what was going on”. Lol. He’s sunk!
AS USUAL, his CELLMATE has told him what his RIGHTS are!!!
😂😂😂
his grandmother raised a gem .
I’m so embarrassed for him.
Seems wrong to call him "sir"
He be black therefore he da viktum here. He not spose ta be in jell.
don't be racist
I'm not. I'm portraying what they actually believe.
Uh, I'd like to give a shout out to Ray Ray and Big Steve! Keep it real, homies!
Some men just can't handle a woman in authority.
Not even listening. Why is it people that are like this man think that they can say whatever they want in court even after they have been told not to say anything while Judge is talking.
Is there an Ebonics interpreter in the house?
When words mean absolutely nothing
This guy would've been fun at school if he ever showed up.
This young man could very well be the product of his unfortunate environmental surroundings....so sad yet so damn true.
That’s an excuse. He made his own choices.
I had an extremely hard life (mother murdered by my so-called "father" back in March '90 & suffered through years of physical/emotional abuse) & yet you don't see me willfully violating society's laws... I have a clean record. No alcohol/drugs/tobacco use my entire life. If a 41 year old disabled male (me) can keep a clean record despite his horrific childhood circumstances, then so can anyone else. It's called CHOICES & I made the choice not to break society's laws/do drugs/smoke/drink alcohol.
when the judge addressed him as sir he didn't know she,was talking to him
I have a right to remain silent,but I give up that right because I am the 5th stooge of the famous 3 stooges!😆🤔😑
everyone always forgets about poor Joe Besser and Joe Derita.. so technically this dufuss would be the 6th stooge
: )
oops.. I mean the 7th stooge... and if you count me ...
It would have been wise if he let his attorney do the talking and he just be quiet.
Feel sorry for his public defender