HOW TO FIT SHOWER WALL BOARD INSTALL GUIDE - Tile Alternative
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 5. 06. 2024
- How to fit shower wall or bathroom board in your home as a tile alternative. This stuff is great to fit because it's very quick and reduces the points for a leak down to just three lines. If installed properly you'll never have a problem. I'll show you how to install the plastic profile tracking known as SureSeal. I'll show you how to measure and cut the boards and I'll show you how to glue, install and make good the board cuts once the waterproof shower panel is installed.
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Weâve got shower boards pre fitted in our upstairs bathroom, but our shower mixer tap moves slightly in the holes, will they have some kind of seal to stop water getting behind the board? Keep up the great vids, cheers
What do you do if your walls are more than 8 feet high. Do you join boards or leave them short
A little hint I learnt when installing shower wall board @ ÂŁ240 a sheet, especially in tight bathrooms and showers requiring many pipe holes through the boarding. Get a sheet of 4ft x 8ft x 4mm (or 6mm) MDF and prototype cutting the MDF to size and drilling the exact location of pipe holes first. You discover things like you can't get the boarding in the en-suite, as door is not big enough, so door frame had to be removed, location of pipes is not exactly where you thought they were as well as walls not being exactly right angles. As stated measure at least 4 times before cutting. Once all prototyped in MDF and all fitting correctly, transfer the measurements to the boarding and cut (new fine tooth blade recommended) and drill. Then bingo board fits 100% first time. The same sheet of MDF of course can be used multiple times, starting at biggest wall first and cutting down to small end walls etc.
Great tip thanks Ian, after measuring numerous times still havenât got the bottle to cut me pipe holes! Was even thinking of putting boot polish on ends of pipe then offering board up to mark the back just to quadruple check ha, mdf template is a great idea, cheers, Jane. (Still doing the boot polish thing as well though)
Love and MDF prototype!!!
Grate stuff !!! That makes perfect sense đ€đ
I get there are plenty of differing qualities of panel, but anyone paying ÂŁ240 per panel ought to have their a$$ removed. However, if youâre daft enough to pay that then yes a template board would be a good idea.
Even cheaper panels if installed correctly with care, will last.
Found video very useful as just about to cut and fit panels. Templates a good idea.
Done my first ever bit of plumbing this weekend.
Glad I come here to get the advice that I need to look after my home
Very good video James your skill and experience makes the job look easy! Lots of clear info and sensible advice thanks!
Been a plumber all my life and now retired, but this and all his videos are enlightening and helpful.
Keep it up.
Bobbo jones cheers bro!
@@plumberparts Thank you for this informative video can you do this on a concrete wall around a bath and window. Thank you very much.âș
What did you mean when you said therr are only e.posisble ways of leaks happening â@@plumberparts
I wish every plumber like this guy very lively and pleasant happy person keep it up man in your real life as well
What a beautiful way of explaining, no boring stuff or sloppy faces. I loved it and learnt a lot too. Thanks
I have just installed a tray, panels and door etc. Shower panels seem an attractive idea and I fell for it. I thought soldering the copper pipe was going to be the tough part, but it's easy by comparison with the precision with which you have to work to ensure a) the walls are flat, b) the walls are vertical c) if you get b right the corner is vertical. Then there's the horizontal bit. You need that tray to be level - not just close, but level. All the above is an absolute requirement, since if it isn't, the panels won't fit the horizontal and vertical channels. I never liked tiling, but I like shower panels far less. At least with tiling you can make minor adjustments between tiles.
Finish looks great, I like these boards I gives the room a more sense of space. Well done.
I have done a few of these and normally i find the corner is never level or out of square. I use instastick (fast setting expanding foam filler, made for fixing plaster-board to walls) to fit the bar and the panels. It makes leveling the center bar much simpler and provides a good solid fix in about 10 mins. You can just hold it level with your hands until it sets. Again expanding foam will also take up any large gaps in the panels due to uneven/un-level walls. In severely un-square walls, stud-work is needed to square it up but the created external corners need to be made good.
Brilliant video as ever. Definiteley installing this system in my new en-suite. Much tidier than tiles.
Good luck.
Realy informative and useful, thanks. I read the showerwall installation guide, but video is a different and effective way of learning. Nice.
Good to have the right tools required as mentioned in the link đ I just used good quality rubber gloves instead of panel suckers but worth having đ.
Great vid, thanks. Going to do this in my own bathroom at home shortly. First time I will have done shower board. I'm a plumber but have always previously worked with tiles, these seem like they offer a much better finish and to be less leak prone.
No grouting to look after, but if your in a hard water area, always use a squeegy on the panels, after use, they might not be so resistant to limescale chemicals as glazed tiles.
Prefer to watch whole video with you lying down...so relaxing!
I chose these panels 25 yrs ago, never had a problem. My new system was a double Shower Cabinet, on a raised Heavy weight Tray, that had a raised lip all round. Sealing was easy.
Love it. Getting my boat builder to install on our new build narrowboat.
The saw depth setting was a wild tip!
Brilliant job and perfectly explained, thanks so much.
I hope your cat is well recovered now James.
Looks like good stuff, I bet it's fun on wonky old walls though in older houses!!
I used old but flat plywood panels, and wedged in any bits of wood to level it up, then put the new stuff on. OR, just use large dollops of Glue, and press the panels slowly in, while using a plumb line and long spirit level, to keep it upright and level.
Very clear, great personality, and confident.
Very useful and detailed video. đ so simple to follow with patience. All depends on the space you have in order to make it easy. Mine was hard to bring panel into tight space so I had to trim it accordingly to slide it in upwards only by doing it in a angle would be hard to rotate it up after. Clever idea on edge notch very useful đ top marks overall for the video đ
Thanks for the video. My 70 y.o. father was instaling Laminex sheets in his bathroom with plastic c and t shaped strips which he did not cut to the panel size or wall length. It was a pain in the butt. I wish he watched your video first. It would have saved time and wasted materials. Cheers mate đ
Thanks for the video. Maybe you could show us how to make the holes for and seal the shower attachments, please?
Excellent workmanship and banter, what could possibly go wrong when I have a go đ€
Your timing is immense with this - literally just choosing shower panels! Bloody legend mate, thanks for your honest review! New fan here!
Haha! Cheers dude. It's a great system!
Great video. Thanks. Do you have anything to show how to fit a shower niche into shower wall panels?
Top video mate. Keep up the great work! And carry on being you
Thanks Luke!
Hi ya watched today again as Im about to try the grosfillex panels and Im a bit scared but gonna have a go. Cheers
Great vid, ( subbed) looks really good , great presentational skills and editing.Cheers
Great, Thank you for showing us how to the job, I Wish it was out in 1980's when I my bathroom,
HAha! Unlucky bro!
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A simple thank you for all your videos so far is not enough mate....my family really thanks you....
Bit of advice on removing the peel coat. As the showerwall board is a laminate product and only 0.5mm to 0.7mm thick and liable to defect or damage - (not often, but sometimes) so the peel coat is supposedly only there for transport purposes. Strictly speaking, you should take the peel coat off before fitting the board just in case you detect a fault in the laminate. Saves a lot of hassle rather than doing it last. "I.D." Surfaces btw is referring to International Decorative surfaces who deliver throughout the U.K. and who have the best range of Showerwall, various flooring, worktops, Hot and normal taps in the U.K. There is a neat "Visualiser" on their site where you can run through all the different decors available in Shower wall that show them in different bathroom configurations so you can make a more informed choice. Great Video btw.
Great vid James as always .... I want to use the walls with the profile but how do you square off the profiles with fitting an enclosure? Would you cut short the profile to fit inside the enclosure profile or would you run the showerwall profile through the enclosure profile?
I got my panels at reasonable price ÂŁ45 per sheet carogated pvc panel. Cheap and cheerful. As my first washroom renovate project after experience slow water leaks over time installed by a European builder when widening the washroom for my mum mobility needs via council grant. I've redone all the plumbing my self from scratch to feel secure and assured no rough job but with patience and kept on remeasure many times before any cuts on pipe and panel. I be using H shape fixings to add the difference gap of panels between joints and a plastic corner cove effect trim on top edge. Using my imaginative idea and effort đ
This is so much better than the panel company video! Thank you.
The Bradley Walsh of plumbing.
Great video, thanks. I'm going to be fitting boards into a camper conversion soon, once the stud work is done do I need to board it first or can these go straight onto the stud work?
Looks smart just need to decide on this or tiles!
I've just bought the silicone formers, silicone gun and signed up to prime off your Amazon store! All the best
Andy
Stick with tiles mate, they've been working since Roman times.
Hey Andy! Cheers for that dude! I'll be adding some more bits every so often!
They are okay for public toilets and caravans. Tiles all day long for a premium look.
Brilliant video and cheerful to watch
Great video, I've just ordered a multipanel system which I'm installing over a shower bath next weekend. Thanks for showing how to install properly, hopefully makes it an easier job on the day. I'm using the offcuts and multipanel join to put a splashback around the rest of the bath rather than just 1.2m from the corner.
Dont bother just tile it . You will thank me.
How did it end up? Happy with it vs tiling?
@@wanderer10k yeah pretty happy with it. The wall wasn't in great condition so in hindsight should have checked it was completely flat before installing as there's a couple of mm where one panel projects slightly in front of the one next to it but it's so much easier to clean and no grout to worry about
Beautifully done. Thank you.
Hi Iâm about to install a similar shower panels and have found the video very helpful. what adhesive do you recommend for attaching the panelâs?
Good explanation. Nice and simple đ
Hi mate just watched this video and found this very helpful, with useful tips from a expert. In fact would you like to fit ours? Only thing we have its a sloping top which I don't feel so comfortable doing. Like you say you only get 1 chance when cutting the boards.Nice one mate Pete.
Hi do you recommend any cleaner for the tiles side before sticking the panels on ? Thanks great videos as always đđ»
Great video. Very informative and love your style. So many types of these videos are just too serious.
Good installation video with humour đ
The two identically patterned boards is the icing on top of the proverbial cake đ
Love your videos, going to start cladding myself never done it but want to know do I need to use internal corners and where should I start? At internal corners or on one side of the wall? Only cladding 3 out of 4 walls. TIA
Got to say that looks really good. Would it be as simple if the shower pipes were already in-situ as would surely be standard?
Hi James, after the flexible rubber fin on the tip of the sureseal snap-on cover trim 'relaxes' and is no longer capable of forming a pressure seal (against) the wall panel face, will the water streaming down the shower wall panel leak inside behind the snap-on cover trim, pond up and eventually blow the panel?
Hi, I was wondering how Showerwall panels compared to PVC panels? I'm looking to do update a small bathroom with these and thought about installing these floor to ceiling then install the bath, or is it better to install bath first and install the panels on the bath? Thanks in advance
James I love the way you put the level on the corner profile to check how you put it that it's level đ€đ€Šââïž
i think is a fantastic system easy to install and cost effective enjoyed the video.
Thanks Ratch!
Its actually more expensive if you use all the trim/profile crap....no need for it.
Awesome detailed explanations
Loving your plumbing tips and fixes James,
Question if you were joining boards are they tongue and groove do you put a teeny bit of silicone in too? My shower wall is abt 1.5m so 2x panel widths needed there and 2x more for the sides, hopefully the cut offs will extend the side walls.dont want to waste it,,
Hold tight indeed !
Dave up in Stamford
I got Splashwall for the shower in my bathroom but later realised my hoped for floor to ceiling panels were impossible to fit in the smallest room in the house. They physically could not go through the door and then be stood up against the wall. (1200mm wide panels). We cut the Splashwall to the same height as the shower enclosure and tiled above it. It was a compromise but it's turned out well in the end.
What boards did you use, how thick are they and would you recommend using MDF, Plywood core or pure PVC?
you said you can place them on any substrate. If I have Wedi or alternative foam backboarding can I install a uPVC or laminate panel on top of these boards?
Or is Wedi overkill. Iâve removed the moisture resistant plasterboard so starting from scratch. Should I just replace with that or use this Duroply you have used?
Hi mate,
Which drill bit and wall plugs can you use for shower panels, for example installing an electric shower onto.
Great video. How do i seal where i am butting up two boards next to each other?
Is it possible to build a shower niche within the panels or is it not advisable due to possible leakages? Iâm thinking about making one from the leftover panel (Multipanel), but a bit worried that it may not be possible to seal it properly. Any tips?
PS. Your videos are making diy so much simpler. As always, really appreciate.
Level is a horizontal check. When it is upright it is called plumb.
These are the future of bathrooms. Had them In my en-suite and they are much better than tiles anyway IMO
Look just as good if not better. Less chance of any leaks.
Clean and easy to install
Very easy to clean and donât have to worry about re grouting.
They don't look better than tiles though
Hi do you fit these boards before shower tray or after , down on to shower tray.
Can you fit cladding/panelling without trims just by cutting for a tight fit and sealing with silicone?
Top and sides done but how do you trim at the bottom - ie as it comes down to a bath?
I am looking at the showerwall products - e.g. SWQNW03
It's 2440 H x 600 or 1200 W
Can this product be installed horizontally - i.e. instead of going from floor to ceiling, can I fix it running from left to right (so that the height becomes the width) above a bath?
Hi mate I am doing some shower panelling and I am doing a lot of it with the be any problems if I silicon and to the roof all the way round as I said it is a lot of metres thanks Wayne
Can you fit these above an existing row of tiles in an old 1960s bathroom. I want to avoid having to extend the old tiles as new ones would look to 'new'. Also its plaster over brick.
Good video bud. Quick question, do you need to tank the walls prior to fitting?
So helpful, thank you.
Hi just a quick one would it not be possible to do a 2 x 2 timber frame and then tack nail it to the frame?
do the bottom parts come in all the shower wall install kits or purchased separately? can you please link which kit you utilized wall kit & bottom if not included. thank you so much!
Compared to normal tiles, how do these boards compare? As in, do they chip/crack easily? I know of different thicknesses, so 10mm ones for example? thanks
3 sided shower - install sequence- James what is your recommendation, would you check plumb, glue one corner to wall, then install a panel with corner trim already fitted to edge ? or fit both corners and bend panel to fit ?? interested to hear your experiences. Thanks great videos
Hello James,
How about when you have two corners? How you slide in to when you have no space on the other side?
where in the 'link below' is the video that included fixing a panel onto a shower tray please? Thanks great video.
simple system 8 easy install - not available in my area so I had to use mirror stuck on with 3M 5200 - cutting the 100mm mixer tap hole in the glass was a brown trouser moment..
I am going to use the 10mm version of these pvc panels and wondered how you would go about fixing the glass shower screen. Would you fit the shower screen to the wall and then but the shower panel up to it with and end trim or fix the shower screen on top of the panel?
Would recommend using a plunge saw with rails for cutting wetwall
Do you use the bottom profiles around baths too?
If i use a wetroom tray for my shower base but want to use wall boards, i assume i do not need to tank the ply wood walls? Would you use the corner tanking tape (ply floor to ply wall) and then run the tanking membrane for the floor, install the tiles on the floor and then install the wall boards as you have shown? Thanks
Hi James can you fit this on plasterboard or do you have to have waterproof board behind,regards
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I cant make up my mind on whether to use wall panels or tiles for my shower enclosure.
I think tiles look better, but panels are easier to put on. my enclosure is 1700 long so i will have a join as the panels are 1000 wide or do i use the tongue and groove that are on the panels?
What do you do if your walls are more than 8 feet high. Do you join panels or leave them short
Here's how you know it's a tradesman. He says "be sure to read the instructions.:" Then he says, "be sure to ignore this part of the instructions." This is the most important lesson any of us can give. The engineers never install their products before they write the instructions.
Hi James, is it ok to put these panels onto WOOD OSB OR PLY..
I fit these regularly, most of the time they are bent like bananas because they haven't been stored flat and getting them upstairs and into a small bathroom is always fun.
I use foam adhesive because it allows for for undulations in the walls of most bathrooms and sets quick.
Gator glue?
Hiya what type of adhesive foam you use? Would something like SOUDAL ADHESIVE FOAM from screwfix do the job? I'm hoping to panel onto previously painted tiles (I have cleaned them thoroughly). I was going to use grip fill but the wall bows in so I need to fill the dip. Wondering if this foam will fill that in? Cheers
@@johnconner6446 yes soudal adhesive foam is fine, follow the instructions on the can, don't stick it back too soon after spaying or it doesn't work.
@@terminatorsquarepants2874 cheers mate. Do you mean apply it to the wall, leave it a bit so it goes tacky and expand, then put the panel on?
Apply it to the back of the board, if you want to make you life easy install PVC wall panels the 250mm wide ones they are much easier to fit and cheaper and use normal panel adhesive.
Using 5mm composite panels onto durarock. Wall surface slightly uneven max 1/4â so whatâs simple manner of shimming low spots. Either utilize thin plastic vertical shims or use a skim coat a leveling patching compound like speed set or Ardex leveler.
Also Should I use waterproof membrane like aqua defense or redguard- if so which construction adhesive be best to utilize
Hi, Great Vid. One question, how would you install a shower screen/door with the bottom profile in place. This would prevent the frame from sitting against the wall flush. Cheers.
Iâd love an answer on thisâŠ. Just about to fit my new shower with showerwall
Hi
Just view few videos and is two different ways. On first people first install panels after shower tray, on second, shower tray first after wall panels. What You recommended ? Thanx
James, great video - thank you. Just one observation: you offered the panel into the bottom trim and then slid it sideways into the corner piece. It seems to me that this would not be possible if you had pipe work and cable protruding through holes drilled in the panel. What do you think?
Brilliant stuff as ever. I did fit shower panels in the master bathroom refit I just did, love them so much nicer than tiles
One tip (in case it helps someone not to make the mistake I did!) if you're fitting into a 3 wall recess....so you have 2 internal 90 degr corner upright joins to glue in place....fit the vertical corner pieces one at a time!
(mine was around the bath and the back wall was almost 2 panels wide, so I foolishly assumed Icould push the 2 panels into place - like a v - and the tongue/groove middle would fit together in the process...not realising that the tap I had fitted to the back wall side of the bath completely interfered with this cunning plan....and in fact the panels were so rigid it wouldn't have worked anyway...) There were a lot of naughty words that day.
Thanks very helpful
Hi there! I'm installing panels on top of a hard-surface shower type (not tile, but some kind of engineered panel). It says in the instructions to clean the existing panels from soap scum, etc., OR to put two coats of water or oil-based sealer on the existing surface and let it dry completely before installing new panels. My question is, what kind of sealer do I need? Or is this redundant and the new panels will glue up fine without this sealer... Appreciate your help!
Great vid đ
Cheers mate!
Can I panel over brick if I waterproof seal the bricks first?