Look inside China’s secretive Olympic training camps
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- čas přidán 21. 12. 2015
- With 400,000 children in special Olympic schools, China has the biggest mass recruitment and training programme in the world. Will it translate to medals in Rio 2016?
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"My biggest sacrifice is my childhood happiness."
wow that's really heavy
that's not what was said, the translation is wrong.
@ihop I guess we'll never know.....
It's correct.
Ashley Cheng Care to translate then?
kimeli it was basically what he said so🤨
If she becomes a champion her mom will buy her a tablet? I feel kinda spoiled
Gabriela gaby ikr!
me to
Gabriela gaby me too..😐
Gabriela gaby they probably don't have a lot of money to buy it so it's hard to get a device for them so she really wants one
Gymnastics._. Queen me too
the translation is so off... the coach said they've been training for so long so they want a chance to perform and show their skills....he never said winning medals are athletes main goals
Western media go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Thanks.
@@mizumo1988 you are obviously wrong. go and watch @2:25 again the coach never said winning the medal was their goals
@@mizumo1988 either you don't know Chinese or English. Or maybe both.
@@mizumo1988 Lying through your nose you POS. You’re just embarrassing yourself right now. I’m an Overseas Chinese and I understood what was said word by word. Don’t do yourself like this. There’s still time to delete your comment.
Meanwhile In India we have sports period once in a week . that too maths teacher takes it to complete portions. 😒
So true 😭 and also many indian parents being Hesitant to put there kids in any sports activity i recently got my black belt in karate and my parents think that is enough for me and asking me to leave karate but i told them that i would not leave something i worked hard for so many year
🤣🤣🤣
Luckily we had 4
That's the case for the majority of South and East Asia though, and the so called 'Olympic Camp' is nothing but a reverse, especially for the low cost sports like weight lifting or so, being more popular where the parents might be tending to decide that their children would be better become an athlete, since they might not be able to afford the children to attend University.
Well said
they're so humble though. he said "It'd be an honor to be as good as them" when he spoke of black american athletes. I see no problem in it.
Chinese are taught to be humble
Not just in China, humility is important throughout Asia. I have a South Asian background (Bangladesh) although I've been living abroad for a while. Respect for elders and peers is taken seriously in our culture. Being soft spoken and humble is taught and expected since childhood.
Good
They are also very competitive and serious about everything they put their mind to. Besides he was talking about track and field which they are not competing in
agreed
"secretive"
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secretive +China + Camp ...... 3 million views
why is it titled the "secretive" when the children and coaches are so openly talking about their dreams and issues? how can you blame people for not being open the next time?
A western media covering China’s news. What did you expect ?
I think it is just clickbait. In my opinion the political view comes after that...
The communist party forcing little children to do stuff.
USA!
@@pol1315 When Westerns do it, they are doing it out of passion and when Chinese do it, communist party is forcing them. Double standard cannot go below this.
"secretive" training camp. Where you can shoot video of all trainees, and interview them, and put it on you tube.
True
@@RubiaStorm yeah, but all that glitters is not gold n not everything u see in this video is happy go lucky. Everything has two sides but r they showing u the two sides ? The kids r similing n look happy. Is that true for all 400k kids n r they not being exploited in those schools ? R they training a machine or a human being ? Becoz that girl looked more like a machine than a happy kid training to enjoy her sports. Also, out of 400k only 10% succeed n reach nationals n even less in olympics but what abt 90% ? This type of military like training for 10 hrs a day to small kids has big chance of breaking their bodies even before they reach their peaks n it does happens which usually ends their career n with no education n all u become a homeless
It IS a factory not a training centre. Just like how they mass produce products they try to imitate the same for humans n humans r not machines so u cant treat them like that. Look what happened with one child policy. They treated their people like we do with livestock in our farms by improving them through selective breeding inside their cage. Only, in china's case it was not cows, birds but humans. But they dont do anything becoz they have this mentality of "End justifies the means"
@@glennex0077 That's exactly what I am thinking
When they say "secretive", they don't mean that nobody knows they exist. And do you think that anyone can just walk in, take video, and do interviews whenever they please?
Just like the special reports done from North Korea, these video shoots and interviews were HIGHLY monitored and censored by the Chinese government. You sound so naive to think that this video reveals EVERYTHING about these programs, or that the filming/interviewing was done completely freely, without close and careful censorship by the govt.
"a child is disciplined and training hard for glory..."
westerners : "its child abuse"
meh..
Kinda is? They are robbed of their childhood, of a normal life. For what? So China can display some shiny medals and say look how good we are. I dont think most of these kids would choose this life if they werent started so young. 98% of these kids wont become successful, and they wont have a normal education, ergo no regular job.
@@Impetuss lmao did u not watch the video? ppl who think like u will never get anywhere. You always have to sacrifice, and risk something to get something back in return. These kids are doing this so they might have a chance to live better in the future.
I dont think it is as long as it's the childs choice to do it
@@purplecatloverrandompizza some of these kids start in preschool. Their PARENTS bring them in so their kids can be famous. Is it really the kids choice?
@@MinttMeringue china is diffrent from the west. Like they said: If they win their chance of a high ranking government job is higher and they recieve good education.
Loads of children in China dont have that.
Yes, I do think that in a way they are getting robbed of their childhoods, but I do think that in return they have a higher chance on a better life then other children.
Also in the West there are also enough parents who litteraly force their child into sports or acting so that the kid can become famous and the parents look good.
I think it is disgusting, but sadly it happends every where.
Why does the west always use these weird words to describe us? "Secret Olympic Camp", as if it's some sort of lab to develop artificial cyborgs for competition.
Did you watch this video lol it's basically that.
Nahyla Pacha actually I wonder if you watched the video?
+Charles Lin I did. How hard they train and what they're expected to be able to do, is basically what you said lol
And athletes from other countries grew up smoking weed, drinking beer and playing video games all day? Any world champion works as hard as these guys.
+Eric Miret ?
I watch this after a 14 year old kid got perfect scores in Olympics Diving. Winning gold.
Me too
Ironically, one of the skaters (from the country where this magazine is from) is a 13 year old, not to forget Tom Daley was a 14 year old when he first came to the Olympics
Same!
"secretive" but there's a 7 minute video segment. Propaganda is about diction.
@Officer Meow The chinese people aren't bad. it's the ccp aka the government
Western countries have talked about China's for years and years all while their own gymnasts were abused and they covered it. Kids from Chinese rural areas are getting an education and a chance at success that they wouldn't otherwise. Are they tough? Yes. All elite gymnast trainers are. The childhood happiness comment is interesting, but you'd have to ask the same to any elite athlete and see what they say.
Now american athletes getting upset for being called as she instead of them/they.
@@joshmirr7366 haha
But but we have teenage pregnancies so top that
@@joshmirr7366 where u from brother
Agree with you Silvia!
Incase any of you were wondering, Gao Lei competed in Rio and won a bronze medal. :) I'm actually so proud right now.
Yeah, he is honest and deserves it
That’s so good but he trains soooo hard
I wish he had won gold 😢
Sorry that this is late but who won silver and gold? I don’t wanna look it up
I’m so PROUDDD
how much money is that?
We have this type "secretive training camps" all over the world it's called School
I think you missed the point
@@tyan_ldn I think you missed the joke.
@@stevenzhao3414 I don't think he was joking
😂
Lol
How "secretive"? Didn't you get to film everything and interview everyone for the documentary?!
pretty sure this is just the surface
@@myungyaz hey EXO-L!!
@@abanteegangopadhyay6612 hii🥰
You know the western media likes to make everything that comes from China sounds suspicious
@@myungyaz Surface of what? It's just a recruitment system that seems different from the US. The parents send their kids to practice sports as an alternative of schooling, what's wrong and secretive about that?
Simple rule: Those who work hard will win gold.
@India numba 1, U.S. numba 1, Chyna loser country! Bro, your Username make me laugh so Hard.
and talented was must
Drugs
@@sighcerely2000 😂😂😂
Hard work doesn’t mean better results.
that chinese athlete, he is so wise even though he doesn't consider himself to be..
How'd you determine that he was wise?
Yeah, maybe he didn't get to have as much time for education or a childhood but he seems much more self-aware and humble than he gives himself credit for.
Chinese schools are tough. Its really intense
Thats what I thought as well. He states that he isn't smart and might have a hard time in society, yet I'd rank him higher in terms of intelligence than many others who belive to be smart themselves.
Remember, you're not chinese. In China, smart is very different.
“I want my mummy (mommy) to live forever”
aww, that melted my heart! c: she seems like the sweetest girl ever!
Me too
@A J It's nice the little girl speaks English.
In this video she was the sweetest girl in other videos there are other sweetest girls 😳
U think we don’t know what “mummy” means
@@airmaxy7377 A lot of Americans think its something you find in an Egyptian tomb.
Hey, I am an Indian and felt that this video was Prejudiced against Chinese. No way, I see that someone was forcing those kids to play in Olympics. Western Media, especially British ones has to demonize everything Asian.
You look pretty chinese for an Indian.
@@Tate525 thats the real wumao 50 dollar army😂
@@Tate525 No. As an Indian he looks pretty Indian to me.
?????? The video is both complementing the system and showing the humility of the athletes. There is zero in this video that is critical. How cringe to see "west propaganda" in a video praising the athletes.
It's more or less like child preparing for IITs in india.
Still a better lifestyle tbh
🤣🤣🤣yeah , atheletics sports are great career, engineering from an average college is bakwas
Problem is opportunities to population ratio, which is way too low in both India and China!
@@simiedulay Yeah, we can stuff pizza whenever we want, roam around in free time, enjoy coaching life with friends. JEE is not actually some huge burden or sacrifice(Provided that the person is really interested in Science), and certainly can't be compared to such hectic lifestyles of Olympic sports.
Nah mate.. its incomparable
This young girl wants a medal so her mom can give her a tablet, and I gave my kids tablets just so I can take them away as punishment when they misbehave. I feel like a failure in life.
Lol
+Eric Miret kinda pretentious dude
+Eric Miret kinda pretentious dude
We give are kids to much I know what you mean
Sees Nail
Child abuse? Ridiculous. Sitting through school for 8 hours/day is child abuse. As a child, I would have loved to spend the entire day playing sports.
It is not chiLD ABUSE. But like you do not know how difficult it is. OOf. It is not child abuse until they are physically or mentally hurt. EDUCATION is another thing so stfu
@@sirenbob1521 You know, it´s kinda pointless to reply to a 2-year-old comment.
@@sirenbob1521 Now I might regret replying to people that says "Oof" and doesn't know how to use grammar properly.
School is basically a torture, You don't need it, But you have to do it to gain a job, It's really unfair to people that doesn't have time / brain to do such things.
Sergis lmfao get out. Your comment reeks out of « I’m such a spoiled kid from a developed country and I do not know what pain and misery are ».
If you hate school so much drop out and stop wasting everyone’s time. But don’t you dare compare it to child abuse. Some people die getting beaten by their parents, are sold to prostitution by their parents, get locked in rooms for hours with no food or water, but HEY mr sergis here is suffering because math class!!!!!
Also it’s not « playing sports » it’s working 10hours a day intensive sports your entire life then have to quit when you’re like 20. These kids are taught a discipline and rigorous behaviour which you will never have if you seriously think having to work hard, Even if it’s unpleasant sometimes (school) is « abuse ».
Sergis « basically torture ». I suggest you read the story of Junko Furuta to what is actually « torture » before you start whining.
Nowadays Tokyo Olympic is running......and china is at the top of the medals tally
Bro, Sports is a Career in China
@@ShivBhardwaj9973 It is also a career in other countries tho?
@@wtjzgt469 But Chinese government nurture their Talents since Childhood.
India started these talent programs 3-4 years ago. So, india has to wait for Brisbane Olympic to see him in Top 20 🇮🇳🇮🇳
@@wtjzgt469 But Indian people do not take Sports seriously except Cricket Bro
Just as they targetted five years ago
When your country can't win a medal, and see others winning due to their handwork and commitment, You try to malign their image and try to prove yourself great.
We need a revolution
What ?? Maligning China's image 🤣🤣
Like we Indians.
How are they maligning them?
anything in China, the western media can turn into smearing topic against China.
uh, secretive camps that are on youtube?
nice one!
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HAHAHAHA Nice one! sad but true.
+Joe Newbie not all Americans are big if we were what's your problem as long as I'm healthy it none of your business
What ever you wanna believe
Looks like a normal olympics training camp to me. What's with the sad music and tone of the narrator, as if it's some kind of abuse! Other gymnasts start training just as young and go through a very focused training to become olympians too.
Rena agreed
Rena my cousin started doing gymnastics when she was three and no one is calling that abuse ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
can't agree more
its called abuse in countries or cities cuz like in china, go through a selection of children and choose those they believe to be "talented" and after that they go through a hard core training everyday, where these kids hardly get to see their parents and on average, only 2-3 persons are lucky enough to be chosen to participate in the olympics. For the rest of the unchosen kids, their lives are kinda ruined due to this hard core training.
They call this torture because some of the kids don't really have a choice and are forced by their parents and teachers while in countries like America, kids to choose whether they should continue or quit. As well as that, most americans aren't forced by their parents/teachers to go through this hardcore training and they can quit whenever they wish to.
For the chinese kids, they don't really have much of a chance to go to a good university and their future won't be as bright cuz they spent most of their lives focusing on gymnastics and not on education like studying and stuff.
If they weren't chosen for this hardcore camp and work hard, they will probably get a pretty decent job + pay, and also live life peacefully.
(obviously, if the unchosen gymnasts work hard, they might get a good job and a decent pay) but like most of the kids there lose their future as most of them delicate their lives to gymnastics and hardcore training for the glory of china.
because these kids will have been placed in these training camps from a very young age against there will with limited contact with their parents if any at all. There is immense amount of pressure on these kids to do well and they are regularly scolded and caned for not performing to their coaches standards.
Narrator: Western media is rarely give access
Cameraman: Goes right inside the building.
And they were given access in this case.
Even then this probably just a surface look
Yeah. For one aspect of a single category of a sport.
rarely, not never bro.....are you okay?
@@mr_niceman It's a joke bro, are you okay? 😢
@@tantanmustdie it’s a bit cold here, are you okay?
The narrator tried her best to make it look like something bad but honestly this is so cool and i wish we could have that kind of system in my country.
I know! This is incredible to train and get educated at the same time just in hopes youll become a champion
Meanwhile in America, colleges are cutting opportunities for olympians to compete worldwide and that’s sad because America was the dominant nation in winning gold.
I agree
I thought im the only who think like this. i really wanted to have this kind of opportunities 😌
Yes, it is... My country is also planning to have sports-centered educational facilities/institutions that will act as elementary schools and high schools for youngsters, and at the same time, they will be trained to become world-class athletes in the future... If we can build science and math schools, drama schools, art schools, etc... why not build a sports school for promising youth in the field of sports.
How's it secretive when there's a big ass sign saying training camp at the front of the building where everyone can see
Because this youtube publisher, or the so-called self-promoted maniac, pre-programmed his/her brain before looking into any fact. There seemed no way to have him/her to rectify the title.
awwww she said so her mom can live forever .... her smile is beatiful im sure thats enough to keep her mom living an everlasting life
:)
Flying Cloud 🛁
You do realize that EVERY question and answer in these interviews was highly controlled by the Chinese govt, right? This is how totalitarian govt's work (like N. Korea and China). The Chinese govt said to The Economist, "Ok, we'll let you do this special documentary on one condition -- WE decide exactly WHEN and WHERE you will be filming (so that we can choreograph EVERYTHING the camera sees), and WE decide WHO you will interview, and we know in advance EXACTLY WHAT QUESTIONS you will be asking them (so that we can 'coach' the interviewees on EXACTLY what to say). Welcome to the real world.
@@djbenje4019 Well come to the real world, I live in China and things don't work that way.
It can't be too secretive if The Economist can take an indepth look into it, eh?
With that big, glaring sign on the building it's indeed "secretive"
@India numba 1, U.S. numba 1, Chyna loser country! If only there's such factory China would be winning every gold medal out there 😂😂😂😂😂
@India numba 1, U.S. numba 1, Chyna loser country! hmm indian troll?
@India numba 1, U.S. numba 1, Chyna loser country! Smelly🤡
"secret camps". Then literally it says outside the facility "Training Centre", and I wish I have the same determination as these young lads.
To get more views.
"I was chosen for training at age 7 because my academic performance was poor." Legend has that he scored a 1500 on the SAT (in English) at age 6.
?
K
The old SAT was out of 2400 the new SAT is out of 1600 to make it easier now. Also the new SAT was debuted in 2016.
He got a bronze medal guys...
I don’t think chinese people take SATs lol but i get what ur saying
in a world of so much hate, seeing that guy talk so positively abt the USA and how he wish he was like them was kinda surprising.
Was looking for a comment about this! I was really impressed with what he said
Before Trump, Chinese don't hate america... but not the other way around
The people are usually not the problem, just the Chinese government.
@@douglei4413what？ do you know China? Since the 1950s, the government has deliberately promoted anti-Americanism and xenophobia.
@@slavish_superiority 傻叉，2000年-2010年公知盛行的时候谁管过？
I cried when I failed to win my mum in chess games, I asked her to play again and again... till I could win. I simply loved chess. I could become a chess machine, my own choice. It's PASSION not forced production. Strong wills could lead to miracles.
love chess.....
Well wealth, world class training facilities, and years of prep also make a person better at winning (also who said these children didn't have the passion and willpower to succeed?)
Keep trying and trying the same game again does not work in chess unless you are a genius. You need to analyze your games and find out what you did wrong. Additionally, if you haven’t already, try to learn some strategy. It is all over the Internet.
i don't understand why people think this is child abuse. in the us, girls start doing gymnastics at a very young age
and the good ones who become olympians are training just like this - they leave their families to train and are homeschooled. it's just not done as part of a state system.
In the US girls as young as 5 years old prance around in their little bikinis doing photo shoots and catwalks this drives the pedo culture in the US. People should be more worried about the Pedo culture in the US than these assumptions of "child abuses".
in the US they don't leave their homes, the current set up is they train with their home gyms (usually near their homes) and stay with their families.When the olympic training takes place they go for camps once every 4 weeks but still go back home for the other 3 weeks. In China the children usually leave their families at a young age if chosen. They likely won't see their parents but a hand full of times a year, if at all.
*****
what are you talking about? gabby douglas left home to go train with chow. right now she's training in ohio. and if there's a girl with potential who doesn't live near a great gym or who thinks she needs different coaching, she has to leave her home. nia dennis is another one. i know there are others i can't think of off the top of my head.
***** That's a whole lot of bullshit. A lot of places around the states don't have the facilities to accommodate these athletes, same goes for China...
dominique dawns left her home also.....it happens all the time....yes, they still see their parents but they certainly aren't living with them
they are acting like other gyms don't recruit from 6 years old
A very "secretive Olympic training" program of which The Economist is able to make a short documentary about.
That's what western media do to china, give them access to reporting, they do like to do this and then cried when denied access...
@@daqiao1959 you understand that both can be true? You can give brief access and then refuse to give it again. That still makes it secretive
@@daqiao1959 when they report that 6 year olds are forced into Olympic camps, the blame is not on western media being allowed to see it.
Are you so naive to think that this documentary reveals EVERYTHING about these programs? Do you actually think that the crew was allowed FREE, UN-CENSORED, UN-MONITORED access to the facilities, coaches, and children? Man, you sound like you were born yesterday.
so secretive that they filmed a full 7 min documentary on it LUL
😂😂😂😂😂
I m doubtful too
😂
I know you’re speaking of it was a joke, which I get but something tells me, these “factories” have a lot more schemes than we can see 🤔
@@Whoevenaskedyou yea it's a big country, even if they were hiding things it would be virtually impossible to find out...
@@ssvegeto1610 basically the same as the US. They both are the same size.
$200k from a gold medal.
$500 for the tablet, $199,500 to make her mummy an immortal Cyborg.
lol
What? Screw off
looooool
Gold medals are like $500 bc it's not all gold.
its $200k from the govt for winning one
Lots of respect for these athletes... especially fro the trampolinist at the end.
Respect man respect. Go china go~ :)
+Sophia Lin We're currently first atm!
+Bobby Lin Check again
+Bobby Lin Awe you upset?😭
+Robert ! I don't really care tbh. As long we beat the Australian I'm satisfied.
If this is abuse then sending kids to the school is also an abuse, that's it.
It warms my heart to see people being neutral under an obviously misleading report.
People are freaking out because of that tablet thing. Yes in almost all asian countries Tablets, Phones and all such things are considered to be distractions and the one's who have them are sometimes seen as spoiled kids. I'm myself 17 and i just got a phone before this i only had a cheap Chinese phone with no internet in it (i was allowed to use WiFi for 3-4 hours). Asian parents think that these things are distraction during thr school age or young age of child. Almost 90% asian kids under the age of 15 don't own a phone and its normal we don't ask for it as we we're taught to live without it😂
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Edit I see people getting offended y'all need to chill, those born around 2000 (late 90s) did get their phones late but the one's after 2005 or so got them early my own sibling born in 2008 got his phone/tab at the age of 10 so yes times have changed but ya some are still strict about it
@Shooketh they have sex offenders in China? I never heard of that. What did he do?
I can't agree more 👍🏻 me myself also got my own phone when i'm 17 ( with my own saving). Asian parents usually wont allowed their children to get something unless they got best academic performance/ or got great achievement. But i hve no comment towards modern asian parent 😂
I am 16 German and marrocan dont have a phone, we dont have TV. We just have computers and Wifi is limited ...
Ishika - Except in South Korea, they have smartphones at like the age of 10.
That’s how it should be in America. I didn’t get a cell phone until I was 16 or 17 years old, I’m 28 now. I see kids as young as 3 with their own tablets because their parents are lazy and use technology to babysit their kids. I see entitled kids with iPhones in elementary school. Want to know the common denominator between all of these kids? Spoiled brat attitudes with no respect for their parents.
Four years ago I watched a documentary about Aly Raisman. She talked about how eagerly she wanted Olympic golds, and the media praised her hard work. But when same things turn into Chinese, many biased western media will try to make it sound like child abuse.
So please answer me, if you want to win Olympic gymnastic golds, is that possible that you don't need to pay any sweat or pain? Is that possible if you don't start at a young age? Why can't you respect the endeavor of the hard-working coaches and athletes? What did they do wrong? When they talk about their Olympic dreams, why do some of you determine immediately that they are simply brainwashed? I'm not arguing with anyone here. I am just hoping to show all my respects to the young, vibrant athletes.
The point of this clip is to highlight the statist control of China, and the (perceived) dehumanizing nature of such a system. Everyone knows greatness is the result of practice. Nobody is shaming work ethic (Americans praise east Asian work ethic), this video is about China using their people like cattle, where the perception is that no choice or freedom exist for the individual...in fact, no individual exists at all. Western society values the individual above the collective, Western Society rejects the notion that they are told by their government what to be. It's not an East versus West thing, it's an open society democracy against a China thing. Koreans, Japanese, Singaporeans? Like many Asian peoples? Parents push the kids hard, and this creates payoffs....good academic performance, good work ethic, low crime rates etc. South Koreans dominate female golf, the Japanese excel at many things, Singaporeans barely sleep they're so busy studying, working, creating an incredibly successful country....and they receive praise from the West without any "but"s, because they're democracies (Singapore is an odd democracy, that doesn't always look like a democracy I concede), and their people have a say in how their country operates. This has payoffs that China doesn't always experience....because China stifles creativity, and individualism at times....this is why K-Pop from little South Korea is huge, why Korean automobiles, tech is global. This is why Japan is a massively influential country in style, culture, film, authors, anime etc,etc.....countries that have rigorous East Asian work ethic, academic pursuance...BUT also value individuals and their creativity as individuals. Chinese people work just as hard as Koreans, Japanese. Chinese people have great academic results like Koreans and Japanese....yet despite dwarfing both in size, China's global cultural, intellectual, footprint isn't as big. Chinese people in the US and Canada? They kick ass....they're highly educated, family oriented, peaceful, very successful....but they get to choose who they want to be, and in their behalf, and not on the behalf of others.... which is what the West values, and believes everyone else should value.
C'mon, these kids are ripped from family and are denied childhood because they get singled out as exceptional by examiners. Even the trampoline guy admitted that.
In any other country, people are encouraged to pursue happiness on their own terms.
gjjd Yeah, but then to call it child abuse is abit of a stretch don't you think? If you really care about child abuse then you should watch "American child death shame" - Every five hours a child dies from abuse or neglect in the US. America has the worst child abuse record in the industrialized world and that's just an understatement.
monkeymajix Who called it child abuse? The United States also has different demographics than every industrialized country on earth....which is a polite way to note that the US has 90 million African and Latino Americans, who account for a massively disproportionate part..of well, every single statistic people like to throw at the US negatively. The clear fact? Americans descended from European whites tend to have the same exact social metrics (education levels, academic scores, crime rates, abuse rates, murder rates etc,etc) as European whites. Asian Americans tend to mirror many of the metrics of East Asians. Mexican Americans tend to have the same issues as Mexicans, African Americans (who have, by far the greatest issues) do better than Africans, but still exceptionally poorly. Blacks and Latinos are a major percentage of child abuse. American white abuse rates mirror Canadian white abuse rates. If you've found some magical way (no country on earth has by the way) to make Black African, Latino American (of high Amerindian ethnic heritages) descended people to have low crime, low abuse, low murder, low crime rates, high education, high test score rates? You've solved an issue sociologists, academics, economists have tried, and failed, to remedy for decades. America will always have these negative rates compared to other industrialed nations, because the US is the only nation with demographics of its kind that has ever been successful
Dane Potmo The documentary was obviously leaning towards calling it "child abuse" also some of the comments have also tried to point that out. But hey you've got child abuse issues and on top of that you've got racial issues. What a lovely country you live in.
Here’s a piece of advice: If you want people to stop calling you “FAKE NEWS”, maybe stop being so dishonest, biased and manipulative. By the way, I think that using the word “factory” is kind of racist because it is based on the stereotype that Asians are robotic, less emotional or less human than Westerners and the stereotype that they work in factories.
I don’t see anyone calling them fake news save for you, the word “factory” is stereotypical but it’s far from being racist, not everything is meant to be offensive, so turn down your defensiveness a bit and you will live happier
@@da4127 nah, factory seems accurate here
I agree 100%
Very true thanks
Thanks for saying so. :) Nice of you oo~
Every country has their own sports programs. Somehow China's is secretive.
LOL, I know right
change the title plz , if we can watch it on youtube it s not secret . COMMON SENSE
I konw right
So true
They just want people to click their video 🙄
it's 'secretive' not 'secret' ...
He seems like a really nice young man. I'm not Chinese but I hope he wins a medal at some point.
Phoebe H you're pretty, i hope i don't sound weird
+soomyeonxing saves lives sweaties you don't sound weird, you just sound creepy
Kim yesung is the king of vocals creepy Korean... I understand why Chinese and Japanese dislike you guys now.
They complimented her. That's not weird or creepy. Wtf.
He got a bronze in Rio
Ah come on . Training camps are there everywhere for talented young kids. Even here in the US.
Nope
Nope
Well in India we don’t even have a games period once a week and parents won’t support sports
@@ananyaanu6288 ok go cry somewhere else
@@international_fraud hey IG u cry all the time , that’s why ur suggesting me to cry when I told something and btw it’s none of ur business so please don’t involve
Meanwhile India with Whooping 1.4 billion population is standing with just 1medal currently in olympics. Whereas as others countries with just minute population compared to us are way ahead of us.
It's all about vision and money when these both are in the right hands your medals will increase dramatically.
@@ersinolmezsambreroersin not really, Ethiopia has no money yet they have distance running medals
@Krishnkant Singh yeah no one is supportive for sports whether it is government or parents etc . We have study centers rather than sports center . It is the problem and also corruption in sports field too.
I was a gymnast at high level and I started training when i was 3 years old. I don´t understand how she could say these children are mistreated. I also had very hard training and was sometimes ´forced´ to push my limits. The only aspect that could be debated is from what age they could stop going to school.
Christophe couldn’t agree more
Christophe
100% agreed.
I think they go to special school that is part of this program. Like they learn normal subjects at different times to work around their training. That’s just my guess.
Carys if you think chinese are bad just go watch the Russian rhythmic gymnastics training camps. 3 year olds are being torn limb from limb.
Because USA always want to be number 1. So other countries cant do what USA do.
"I want my mommy to live forever" - they're kids after all. This sentence made my heart skip a beat!
Anja Wendlandt Who doesn’t want that at that age!!!!!!
1. These facilities are not secretive. This is intentional depiction to mislead viewers to think that it is outside anything that is conventional.
2. The background music is a down-tone Chinese music that is normally used for tragic storylines/movies, again, specifically setting the tone.
3. Attending and winning a medal in the Olympics is any sportsmen and women's dream, across the world and anywhere else. It is a very motivating goal, so stop smearing and relating anything positive to human rights. It is not your weapon.
They didnt smear them though, they pretty well outline how the program works but is costly. What other countries have training regimes that start at 6 years old and continue till adulthood?
Agreed…exactly what I was thinking. Shameful Economist!
Spending billions in sport is way better than spending trillions in military.
Are you nuts? The TRAINING METHODS AND TECHNIQUES that a country employs to beat all other countries is about as secretive as it's military technologies. Do you really think a country which spends billions $$$ on a program to beat the rest of the world is going to make NO EFFORT to keep it's training techniques/methods a secret?
Reality check, bro.
5:57 "The chances of these children making it to the olympic games is statistically very small."
Yes, that's how it is in every country
3:33 Training for the freaking olympics, but doesn't forget to stan kpop groups wowie
jimin your jams are here ofc 😂😂 Asians man. If we don’t have time, we make time
Lol I saw the EXO posters too!!!
lol staning groups isn’t a personality or achievement. It’s called a hobby or something fun.
I saw Sehun and had to pause to make sure I wasn't seeing things
Angelina no one said it was a personality.
Gao Lei got a bronze medal in the 2016 olympics, trampoline
Such an honour to see his training and opinions 💕💕
@@eatingoreo5160 did he qualify for Tokyo Olympics?
@@meatloaf676 yes he did, the event is on july 31th.
@@dplxy thank you stranger!
@@dplxy update?
@@Falconof96 he finish 14 out of 16 on qualification round， didn't make it to final.
The narrator wants to make this seem bad but really it's not. Some, if not most of these kids may not be academically gifted, but lean more on the athletic side. These kind of programs give them more chances in life.
Back here in India an entire generation of young athletes collapses due to lack of proper guidance and infrastructure .
In my childhood days I was very athletic always wanted to represent in some sport but all dreams were crushed when reality hit hard. Till this day I regret .
Far better to live in a nation which truly understands how to use their people's talent to the best use.
West tried hard to bully and demean China but todayvChina has evolved into a global superpower nation for which I have the utmost respect.
Not superpower yet but should be soon in future.
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I hope that girl gets her Tablet. She reminded me when I was her age, when my mom promised me that I will get an iPhone if I get a better grade.
Materialistic?
@@scorpionattitude There’s nothing materialistic about it, she worked hard so that her mom can buy her one
Uffff I hate it when my mom does that
a year late, but did you get tat iPhone?
@@scorpionattitude no. Deserving.
China already sits in the top 7 for number of Olympic medals overall. Not bad when you consider that we're genetically a lot smaller than the average athlete elsewhere.
And considering the unstable times when the proc was first formed so they really had to make up for it
+Shanghai Noon Source for size claims? Average height in China is not really lower than the avg for the rest of the world.
mndeg I think it's more than just height though. Americans tend to have a more protein-rich diet. The staple Chinese diet is fish, vegetables, noodles, etc.
+Shanghai Noon Actually compared to other smaller nations it's worst off and this is only way for China to win medals. I remember how past communist states and fascist states like Nazi Germany & East Germany and Romania were into this. Why? It's coz this is only way for china to show up as nobody wants to live in China.
+Kochigachi yet for the past 10 years nearly 85% of chinese grad students studying in the west have actually decided to return home. not to mention the longer a chinese student stays in the US, the less interested they are in democratizing their home country.
If they had been American children--it would sensational. Lol.
true
Those kids from Sandy Hook school didn't think so.
@Darth Asper not an American so didn’t get it. Was it columbine sort of reference?
@@RobinSingh-pl7ji sandy hook was an elementary school that suffered a mass shooting. Babies died.
The answer about America was induced.
Around 2009, all Chinese provinces included sports in the high school admission exam, though the full score of the sports test differs at 40, 50, or 100 among different provinces. When I was young, the PE class was usually ignored. But when it's included in the official admission exam, all middle schools increase investments in sports and sports teachers, because nobody wants to see kids losing 10 or even 20 points in sports and having to catch up in maths or physics tests. My kid is in the 9th grade and the school assigned 5 sports teachers to oversee the class's 3 between-class exercises in addition to one PE class per day, with the aim that most of 50 kids can secure a full sports score. I have big thanks to the sports teachers because 12 to 15 years old is a vital phase of kids' growth, especially for girls.
我当年的中考体育满分是20分，人人都接近满分，那你自己不练就落后别人。
All that little girls wants is a tablet.... :(
I know that was really sad, she didn't say anything about enjoying what she's doing now....she just wants a tablet :'( . And that guy just said he lost his childhood happiness, that just about wrecked me right there!
***** that breaks my heart even more....
+Andy Lin That just makes me even sadder. Because we all know that gold medals cannot buy immortality and would a gold medal make the family truly happy. I don't know, does it seem like the mom is trying to live vicariously through the daughter or is it just me :( ? But I guess for all Olympic hopefuls a gold medal is everything, sorry I can't help but rant about this it does break my heart a little!
+TheMeloettaful some of these children come from poor regions so winning means a chance of getting out of poverty.
that is great, because it Shows how much she already has
that girl has exo on her wall, i love her now
Lol same
yas EXO FOR LIFE
yeeeeess
lol
lol i was like "yaas, she's one of us" so cute.
Amazing work ethic from these young athletes. Best of luck to them in the future
Every country has its own way of training athletes, no one is wrong, no one is better, that’s the true beauty of freedom.
it doesn't sound like these kids in china have any freedom... but you would know i'm sure
This video is so biased and should not be published by a large media institution like the Economists. First of all, only a small portion of the kids spend full time in these camps(the most talented kids). Most kids in the camp are sent there by their parents for developing hobbies(specialties) or just keeping fit. I played tennis in a camp at that during weekends for 5 years.
Secondly, these camps exist in almost in every country. It’s similar with the football, hockey academies in Europe. And those kids who spend full time in the camp do study, they spend about 4-5 hours on training and about 5 hours on studying.
Last but not least, the government do take care of these kids if they couldn’t become a pro. Some athletes can become coaches or get a job at the local government(state owned companies). Many of them who have good academics can even go to universities and get scholarships.
I totally agree with you! This video is so biased, it makes these coaches and the program's look terrible and abusive. Obviously it's not someone from China who made it..
and also compared to Chinas education system this place looks like a amusment park.
Exactly. it's so easy to point the finger but people are such hypocrites it makes me sick. Programs such as these do no justice to these types of subjects
It is a 7 minute video and the topic is Chinese camps. Obviously in 7 minutes you cannot list problems with other countries' training programs. Also the topic of the video is not how Chinese camps compare to the world but rather why the pros and cons of these camps.
So they had to stick to 7 minutes? lol rather than seeing the truth, you are sticking to the belief that they this media outlet had no other choice but to portray this story in this way. That's adorable.
I wish my country had this, state sponsored training for children with poor grades
In the us, it’s called Walmart
@@Ari-xh6nr Walmart sells food and other stuff?
Ari what
When you think about it, it’s actually scary. They choose a kid who couldn’t perform well in schools and jobs, so they make them an athlete because they can not afford having someone performing badly, it’s not for the kids sake, it’s for the socialism sake.
@@andreaa1659 you sound like someone who has only lived in the united states your whole life
"Secretive". 5 million views on the video.
Every country spends money on developing their athletes, but there's always a sinister undertone when China does it.
Well considering how they tried to hide the covid origins and spread it all around, guess it wont be bad to call the communist guv sinister afterall
@@ashtrayy6969 Then call it over their Covid issues. Not when it comes to training athletes.
American athletes are surrounded by armed guards with very restricted access, yet China is secretive.. how did they manage to video the Chinese training.
Because it's china
Heh, from this alone, you could see which country spend it budget more on warfare or economy....
Warfare got cyber warfare included if you did not know.
1)Without government's support, how many Chinese families can afford to burn money and time to train a professional athletes? Maybe very small portion.
2) Most Chinese admire the academic success rather than being good at sport. Without support from government, how many Chinese parents would send their kids to be trained as a potential athletes? Maybe fewer.
3)The kids are selected to go to training team only if they are willing to. And they can quit anytime if they don't like it later.
4) Many kids come from families who are not that rich or educated. Basically, they may have less chance to be successful in academic area. Being selected to go to professional training team actually gives these kids more opportunity to be successful.
Amora Benner lmao you’re saying like they don’t try to prevent overpopulation
Yolanda Y cannot agree with you more
*i guess the camps aren’t a secret anymore*
how they title and edit this video makes it more depressing than it actually is...
@@q_q123 for gymnast, it is almost the same for every country
they are never secrets. Chinese people know the gov is always doing this.
@@null-7 I’m Chinese from Xi’an, China, now studying in the U.S. I never known and seen any camps in my country, totally rumors and lies from Western propaganda.
You’ve been brainwashed by fake news from your country
If you have to win medals in Olympics, this level of sacrifice is required
The translation is totally taking advantage of the fact that most of the channel’s audience don’t speak Chinese. It’s highly inaccurate by twisting the words of those interviewed
what's it twisting? Is the tone different?
Such as?
I'm American living in China b/c of my job. I use to figure skate when I was younger and did it for 7 years. I decided to go back skating a few weeks ago and joined a rink here in China. I have got to say I am impressed by the coaching here. I have watched and compared the coaching to when I was learning in America and it is different. The parents and grandparent are always disciplining the young skaters, most are home schooled if they are serious about competing, and one thing I admire is most skaters wear something with CHINA on it. When I was skating I never once had that mentality of one day skating for my country. For them, it is a sense of pride to be Chinese and bring a medal & honor home.
Thank you
That is the true patriotism.
@dennis estrada don't you know that 20% of the Olympics competitors representing other countries are actually Chinese?
@dennis estrada 🤣🤣🤣 Mainland Chinese don't ever claim Hongkong and Taiwan. Government is the one claiming them.
Then these chinese kids train their whole lives to get beat by some american twenty somethings who practiced at their own free will
Wow ...THAT NINE YEAR OLD HAS EXO ON HER WALLS... WHEN THEY WERE STILL A 12 MEMBER GROUP
Her mom probably is a big fan of EXO
She probably a fan of exo
Meanwhile in India,
Parents : Go and study . Exams are round the corner.
If it was from USA or UK, the Economist will praise that as a 'Hardwork', 'Passion' and 'Patriotism'...
No In the UK our gymnastics program was under fire for cruelty and it wasn't even close to this.
Yeah you might feel that this is “child abuse” but let’s be honest, majority of us were put into a sport as a child or wanted to be in one. However, we didn’t get the support or the discipline we needed to keep going which is why we gave up when it “became too hard.” I think if we had these kinds of facilities outside of China, then children will not only be given the opportunity that many may not have but also be able to build even closer and stronger relationships with their coaches, themselves, and with their teammates.
Yes but when you were in that sport your family didn't put a stop to your education. There are now hundreds of these kids who have become homeless adults because they didn't learn any way to survive the real world. They recruit at a young age and when they are older if they are not the best of the best they're thrown on the streets.
I agree 💯, when I was young, I wanted to become an athlete and liked sports, but i couldn't get anywhere as neither proper education nor training were provided, schools never taught girls sports and enrolling in an academy or such was a privilege for the wealthy. So yeah, in a way, I envy those kids in the video, they got opportunities I couldn't dream of when I was their age.
These kids did not get a balanced childhood. The country benefits from one or two medalists at the cost of thousands that sacrifices everything.
no sports are trash lol, its about gaming in this era.
@M P ok but at least we aren’t getting forced 😂✌🏾 .
Regarding all their talks about U.S. - please note they were just answering the interviewer's questions.
One thing i admire abt Chinese people is thier Faith and Believe in Teachers/Coaches
Watch out:
Blind faith and blind belief are very dangerous!
All the children in the training camps are from poor families. No middle class family will allow their children to undergo the torturous training.
It's just training. It's for everyone
Figure out a way to get more black chinese?
Nicki Minaj?
Onika Maraj
+Goldberg Brian Truth stings a little there huh?
Lol thats a cheat code
+miiiikku The jews probably don't control enough of China for that to happen yet.
Girl: If I become a champion, mummy says she'll buy me a tablet
My mom: clean your room and I'll but you a tablet
Me: *Oh hell nah-*
Cleaning you room is nothing compared to what these kids do everyday! They probably train all day every day.
@@lollipoplola8350 I believe that was their point
Kind of cringe..
My mom got me a tablet just because I asked o_o
@@heya4405 :o
Love China from India, I really inspire from there hardwork but you are spoiling your childhood brother.
if the same system implemented in india. Parents of rural area send their childrens without hasitation. Atleast they will have better life in future.
I love how they don't say anything offensive about the competing countries, I know how competitive the Olympics are and these people are a breath of fresh air.
I spy an Exo fan
I SAW ALSO😂😂
Hello from California👋🏻
+Bangtan YG oooh shes a Sehun fan like me lol i saw his face instantly!
+Bangtan YG OMG!! Me too! I recognised the photos immediately :P
YES HAHAHA
"secretive"
Open for people to film.
Ya right.
You got the point bro😂lol
What’s so secretive? 🤣 you got a film crew in there.
China has 1.4 BILLION ppl, doing anything there is probably like “factory” production. That’s the context.. don’t be so cynical Economist
See india then 😂😂.here 1.3B people only think about working in foreign companies, becoming ceo and doing Govn job. Btw I'm also doing same think i.e. working in MNCs. 🥴🥴
Secretive?? video like this makes me admire China more..
USA's Manifesto:
When you cannot compete with the enemy more stronger than you , only thing you should do is to CRITICISE him generously.🤣
lol that makes no sense. America wins plenty of medals. Also, isn't this a British publication? 🙄
@@Youngnrrwhtjwtjetk Exactly. They try to make everything anti-American for no reason.
This hurt to watch. Translation is a disaster, twisting the words, even slightly at times, but enough to shed a negative light on them. Title is embarrassing. It is not secretive, they wouldn't have filmed a whole documentary about it otherwise. THEY ARE NOT PRODUCTS. They are people sacrificing their all to pursue their dreams. Depressing music and twisted narration that dehumanise the athletes. They are people determined to pursue their dreams and their government gives them the means to. Simple as that. Every athlete around the world trains as hard, because it's the only way to get to the top.
TL;DR : video dehumanises Chinese athletes for simply training hard to achieve their dreams. They are not forced to.
"Secretive" doesn't have a negative connotation. All training camps like this will be "secretive" because they wouldn't want the competition to know their techniques and training regimen
@@leftyfourgunsThe word itself doesn't. In this case, it does. Why not call it "Olympic training center" as its name is then? If all of them are like that, then there is no need to specify it's secrecy then, is it? Unless it wants the reader to focus on that word and give it a negative connotation
What was "twisted"? How was it "dehumanising"?
What other countries have state managed training programs at 6 years old to adulthood?
That guy actually sounds super wise with that sentence in the end.. it’s amazing he has this insight of his strengths and weaknesses..
True, right! I was a little stumped to hear that from an Olympic medalist. He really is wise to understand and infer such wisdom at his age.
THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY HARD-WORKING ANS PERSISTENT NATION. I'M REALLY PROUD OF EACH OF THEM.
Remember the 40million of them that never had a chance as they opposed CCP....Laolai 1000 camps
@@zennow5073 I really don’t get your point. 40 million? Who?
@@vegandonut5456 Chinese people, who else, 40 million killed off by CCP.
@@zennow5073 Any links to support your claim?
@@vegandonut5456 Well, there is this global thing used by billions called the internet, try using it for research. Try starting with the great famine, see, I helped you out with a clue. Although plenty more deaths in the CCP to find but YOU wont ever seek to find out. I already mentioned Laogai if you could read a sentence but sadly only 20 million deaths dont cut it to doubters like you huh.
Since you are here on youtube. I am sure you have a brain that might one day think, hmm instead of moaning at a comment as if its a lie written a year ago. Why dont I type mao into the search on youtube and see numerous data on such a great guy I support being such a stand up leftist type that supports the CCP. But I guess your first question is a bit if a giveaway of your ability shown to many here on youtube today.
Even the best athletes in india dont get these types of facilities and that's the sad part
The guy won bronze in the Olympics, I'm glad even though he didn't wim gold