2017 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE - One Take
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- The Camaro's 1LE handling/performance package is the easiest way to make the most out of your V6, V8, or Supercharged V8 2016+ Camaro. It features, for just $6,500, Brembo Brakes, an electronic LSD, Magnetic RIde Control, dual mode exhaust, upgraded seats, short throw shifter, and subtle aerodynamic improvements. For those who value handling dynamics, the 1LE package, available on all Camaro models, is the way to go.
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guy admits he just started manual and uses auto rev match... I like this guy, he's got moxie.
What the fuck is "cringeworthy" about heel-toe rev matching? That is the stupidest thing I have read this morning.
Tom T. I think he means he doesn't think MF is that great a driver.
he did his homework. that's so cute.
Nothing wrong with rev matching, I'd use it. I wouldn't mind learning to properly heal-toe, but it's not the end all be all far as I'm concerned. I've always been annoyed by Matt's hard line on it.
D LG heel toe feels awesome when done right. it can also make you loose control of your car on track if done wrong at the limit. if you daily a manual you can get the hang of it in few days. it's one of those "seconds to learn, but years to master" things in life.
I liked that he wasn't trying to act like he knew everything he was like fuck tbh idk
David Lane I like that he's honest though, some people can't admit not knowing something.
Screamin' hot deal, hope plenty of people buy it so GM can invest even more R&D money and keep making awesome performance cars.
Well, they didn't. I blame gm.
@@matt6951 GM sucks. But at least Camaros are still running reliably (most of them), and the last gen redesign (2019-2024) that GM just discontinued looks classy and so old-school.
No lift shift is the most forgotten and underated feature in chevy cars
how does that work exactly? so you can essentially just shift without letting off? just learned sticvk in a 63 vette so im pretty new the manual and modern day manuals at that
@@pancakeking2467 Yes, you can shift without letting your foot off of the throttle pedal.
@@pancakeking2467 someone basically answered you but on the mechanical side it does a very short ignition or fuel cut so it's not damaging to anything
@@pancakeking2467 this is for newer cars with drive by wire. Older cars u can hold down the throttle n still shift.
When you genuinely like a car Matt, it absolutely shines through in your videos.
Lmao my dog kept barking at the door when Matt was knocking on the dash of the Camaro 😂😂😂
Funny!
I would rather have my Camaro plastic dash then a German car out of warranty.
You can prob add extra 100 HP to a camero every time you go fix a same priced Audi.
EMCE3IME_LINUXTECHADDICT I wouldn't buy the Audi if I couldn't afford to fix it.
Amen.
Looks like somebody butt hurt lol
My 3 series out of warranty was a nightmare
It's awesome how America is becoming a hub for amazing handling/fast cars. Ford with the GT350 and Ford GT and Focus RS. Chevy with ZL1, ZO6, and ZR1 And Dodge with the Viper and Hellcats and the new Dodge Demon
Hunter Baker The Colbalt SS Turbo held The Nurburgring record for fwd.
Low key Eco tech engines are comparable to 4G63 evo motors. Just the chassis they come in aren’t exactly a fan with tuners
Agree generally, yet the Focus RS is German, from Cologne.
Hear, hear! Death to the "American Boat" stereotype!
Joseph Andreuccetti its the cobalt name. Regular cobalts were POSs
I may be alone in this opinion, but I don't mind hard plastic dash stuff so much any more. The hard plastic they are using for dashes these days are much better than in the past. It usually has better texture and feel, but what I like most is that it's easy to clean and doesn't eventually crack or tear like soft dash covers sometimes do.
J H pretty much feel the same way as u
J H yeah saying "this dash isn't soft" is just how shitty car reviewers show how little they know I mean honestly how often do you touch your dash? As long as it looks nice and the parts you actually touch are nice and soft who cares?
J H he also bought a Focus for the same price as a Camaro and he says the interior thats the same materials as all the other focuses minus the seats and maybe steering wheel so he's clearly an idiot
Keith Payne yea as nice as a focus RS is I couldn't buy one for anything in the 40s. Same thing with cars like the sti, etc.. once u hit 40s the best cars are going to be the camaro ss/1LE, mustang gt/performance pack premium, challenger/charger srt. Nothing else comes close for 40s in terms of power and features of the big 3. All are over 400 horsepower and offer lots of options. No other set of cars come close for under 50k.
J H Not alone on that opinion. I care about looks, performance and reliability the most. As long as I have nice materials on areas where the driver normally touches I'm good.
I got one of these after a Porsche Boxster 718S and I haven't regretted it at all.
That's nuts. Such different beasts, but they're both great. Interestingly, I'm looking at getting either a CPO 981 S or an SS 1LE as my next car. Has to be good for daily use, weekend fun, and HPDEs. Any thoughts?
Derek Ferrell Definitely the SS 1LE. Cheaper and easier to maintain. Sounds WAYYYY better. V8 is much better than a turbo 4 banger that sounds like a subaru boxer engine
I'm German and would take the Camaro over the Porsche. Great looking cars, realiable and great sound.
As a 2017 SS 1LE owner, this review is spot on!!!! I also recommend you override the steering to always stay in touring mode as it has just as much feel as the other modes without feeling fake heavy.
I waited from late 2015 for this car to get here. I ordered one the first week they were available and now it's my daily driver with 6,200 miles on it. I have driven it on a 1,000 mile road trip to and from Daytona for the Rolex 24. This car lived up to all the expectations I had of it! I have yet to feel the need to mod anything. I originally thought I would upgrade pads and tires but even the OEM Ferrodo pads and GY Supercar 3's are KILLER!!!
You said artificially heavy when the sportier modes are selected, but how does it compare to a decent hydraulic rack? Is it numb and disconnected? I like to feel the road through the tires and suspension translated up to the wheel, even if it's just changing lanes on the highway.
I think it feels great! The road feel doesn't change with the modes, only the weight. However you are able to notice the road feel more in tour since you aren't having to work harder to turn the wheel.
EPS can be done well. NSX (1) is revered as one of the finest handling/feeling cars ever made, Senna helped develop it and it was based on the feel of the McLaren.
S2000 is also highly regarded in this department.
Guess what most motoring 'journalists' don't know?
They both use the same EPS system. So Honda did EPS in the late 90s/early 00s perfectly. Everyone else just didn't put in as much effort until recently... this is why I laugh when I see people mock EPS. Most don't know that the 'godfather' of them all, the NSX, is EPS.
I like the Sport setting the best personally.
Do you mind if I ask you what kind of car you had before the Camaro?
"Hang on... HAMMER DOWN!" -cut to partial throttle driveby-
lmao!!
I am a Ford guy, but got to say the new SS and 1LE are mean as Hell for the price.
I have 2017 1le and I love it. I had a M3 before.
sam Ghanavati yoir not the smartest are you?
Quenton Millstid what a coincidence that someone that spells your as "yoir" is telling someone else they are not the smartest. Lmao.
And then not even use the correct use of "'you're." Lol
@@quentonmillstid850 yoir
@@sergsrt8 YOIR IN DA WRONG PLACE HOMIE
those new camaros look MEEEAAANNN gotdamn
I love the older ones. These new bodies are flimsy when you have a collision.
Alan C well you could you know, not crash it? And they are called crumple zones. They break so that you don't.
Viewing but at least you'll live if you crash in a new one
it's almost as if the car is designed to absorb the forces of a crash instead of transferring them to the passengers
Alan C not in this color, the blue is really nice!
damn, this car has changed so much I honestly dont know which year/models I can keep up with. I know I give the 2010s a run for their money, but as they get newer they get faster D:. I havent even bothered playing with the new SS, that thing is a monster.
Matt you've got to understand that part of the reason they can sell a car that performs that well for $45k is because the interior materials are cheap. For me that's to be expected. Look at the cars it competes with for that price.........
Ronald Stonecipher thats because its a track car. Not because the interior is cheap. You want a good interior package, get the 2ss not the 1le
Ronald Stonecipher Far nicer than what they were
Victor Martinez get the 2ss 1le
@@undefeatedgaul3201 3 years ago 2ss 1le was history lol
Says he won't be modifying it at the end.....I'll give that 6 months
Took me a year to modify my 15 1LE that I said I wouldn't touch until the warranty was up. lol
+SG Carter I would do exhaust on mine, but I don't really see the point of doing that much on brand new car until warranty runs up.
Nathan Lamb Short of FI there's not much power in bolt ons these days. Other then making it a little louder I agree just stay warranty friendly.
I laughed at your comment. Modding is easy, but modding the power-train or suspension is a bit harder on these (even the SS)...because they're just that good.
@@Game-The-System is this the car with the overheating diff? cant remember
I absolutely love my 2015 1LE but I'm so tempted to get the new one. Also Coming from a heavily modified Subaru, I told myself I would keep mine stock.. Now I'm over here with full bolt ons, cam, E85 and tune. haha.. Sweet car Nick!
I love this guy he's honest! Isn't afraid to say he just learned manual and doesn't know what a E diff is.
Picked mine up yesterday and I’m in love!
Love how American cars have crazy power and handling now a days but people still complain about some hard plastic even though a bmw equivalent would be $80k 🤣 how dumb
The 1LE is the Camaro to buy in my opinion.
The 6 speed scares away the NON-car enthusiasts
Exactly. A bunch of suspension goodies + manual only = enthusiast edition.
V6 or v8? I'm considering v6 for lighter front feel
And autocross!
@@hunteraltman4762 v8 is part of the Camaro experience
Easiest going owner yet? This guy was really laid back and honest. Love this.
That is a ton of performance for 43k. Makes me reassess the value proposition of plenty of other sports or performance cars.
Jeffrey Moore
Yeah, right...
I drool over the roads more than the cars in these One Takes! What a gorgeous day to be out there as well.
The Camaro is looking better and better each day, especially since Ford fucked up with that 2018 Mustang redesign!
Daniel Shulman How? The new mustang is great and sounds mean
Love Mustangs (drove a Bullitt daily for 10 years) but new ones are too big and too heavy. Camaro blows it away right now.
LOL this comment did not age well. Check out the 2019 Camaro everyone if you don't know what I'm talking about
@@aamir1972 seriously it looks terrible even in person
I’m a hardcore Mustang guy, but the 1LE will beat serious ass on the street and road course all day long right off the showroom floor. Add a power adder and it’s nolo contendre. It’s the working mans super car. Long live the 1LE!
man this car is so sick
Those are Recaro seats in the 1LE package.
Here's the official 1LE list of goodies:
Ss 1le Track Performance Package
includes (J6M) Brembo Red, 6-piston front monobloc calipers, 4-piston rear calipers, 2-piece rotors, performance, 4-wheel antilock, 4-wheel disc brakes, (G96) electronic limited slip differential, (NPP) dual-mode performance exhaust, (F55) Magnetic Ride Control, (FE4) performance suspension, (FTJ) Satin Black front splitter, (DSM) Satin Black hood wrap, (D5S) Satin Black rear blade spoiler, (R0G) 285/30R20 front and 305/30R20 rear, blackwall, summer-only tires, (RSK) 20" x 10" front and 20" x 11" rear Satin Graphite forged aluminum wheels, (AQJ) RECARO performance front bucket seats, (UV6) Head-Up Display, (N26) sueded-wrapped, flat-bottom steering wheel and (KS9) sueded-wrapped shift knob
Solid review Matt and Nick!! Couldn't agree more about the "bang for your buck" aspect this car has.
Man the new SS just sounds so damn nice. I really don't think they need any aftermarket parts, i think GM did it pretty much right.
I'm sorry, and your Ford Focus is completely plastic free??
Complaining about plastics is a bit meager.
I think it's more regarding the quality of the plastics. make the dashboard a soft touch plastic, not some hard scratchy shit
Isamu Wallace my Focus RS has soft touch plastic everywhere on the dash upper and doors, not the nasty hard stuff they use in the Camaro. Big difference.
TheSmokingTire Hard plastic hold up better over time while soft touch and leather dashes will fade and crack much sooner
TheSmokingTire The 2ss 1le will solve that! You can also buy the soft touch pieces after market if you really want to.
Isamu Wallace but he never ruled out his focus though? He's clearly comparing them to European cars that simply have better quality despite American cars being high value for performance. I mean when was the last time you saw someone driving a Cadillac or Lincoln instead of Benz or German equivalents that actually had a brain
The only time I've ever touched my dashboard was to wipe the dust off, the whole dashboard quality argument in a car built for track is just silly.
GM has taken the title back! Love the new Camaro.
in the market for one of these. Been waiting for you to drop this on us since i heard you say you drove it on the podcast. I cant be anymore impressed by this car. thanks Matt!
Great video! I have a 2017 camaro 1LE as well. I have had several sport cars and this one is by far my favorite. I really look forward to driving it everyday. Thanks for the review Matt!
Its awesome to see that people are starting to see the light..... enough of the rose tinted douche BMW goggles..... (I own an E36 before you start bitching) they are not what they used to be. Here's to American Muscle, Here's to American track/handling domination!
StankBeast I wouldn't talk about "domination" just yet
To think that this in 1LE form is as quick as the M3/4 and yet costs a good $20k less in base form it's time. I hate to think what the 1LE ZL1 is going to offer up, closest you get out of Germany (in the same category) is the BMW M4 GTS at a bargain price of $150k..... of which is already being beaten/matched by the GT350 at half the price. Mercedes-AMG C63 S again at double the cost, They are being trumped by the Yanks on the track, in the looks department (IMO) and by price point by a country mile. So I think we already there, just a shame the EU market has so many road blocks, expensive fuel, tax etc.
I love American cars but what BMW offers, no American offers yet.
Love to know what it is BMW offers that the yanks don't?
I think Audi and Mercedes make beautiful interiors but BMW not so much.
He learned to drive manual on this car. So his brz was an automatic. Gross.
Yeah that's what I said to myself while watching it too, lol
Yes an automatic BRZ/FRS, Are pretty awful in he auto, but but, at least he is driving a manual now, he admitted it, not everyone learned to drive a stick properly at a young age, I learned when I was 13, my dad was a huge car guy, and a lot of my older friends had manual cars, but not everyone is the same.
Phillip Berk I learned at around 13 with a 3sp column shift.. As a kid everyone but some girls drove manual. Different era
You got to start somewhere.
who cares?
Exactly the same case here. I am coss-shopping a M3 and Camaro SS 1LE, and I have been driven german cars for my entire life.
It's a young Mathew Perry (Chandler)...
Dan Ryan 17 again?
lmao knew he looked familiar
It was hard not to cringe when he said, "my last car was a BMW '3 series', Dinan Stage 1..... so I'm a hard core German car guy"
Unless you spend the value of the car in repair bills the first 3 months of ownership and the next car you buy is another BMW- I don't think you qualify as a HCGCG. IMO 🤘🤣
In all seriousness, congrats on the sweet whip, man! The previous gen 1LE has tickled my fancy. The new ones look BEAST!
hey i'll bring my lifted silverado for us to take a a spin in the canyons
Luke lol
Luke a good point he needs to do some trucks
by "spin" do you mean "roll"?
Please do. It would definitely be interesting!
Luke you said lifted ?? get out of here !!!
Crossed the double line playing with the traction control matt, love seeing a manual v8 review though, love you're work
How many times does he have to tap on the 1le dashboard before we know he's a Mustang fan boy?
LOL this dude is like a mirror of me... German car fan, the last car was an M3, had 1 Japanese (Infiniti G37), and my very first car was a Chevrolet Lumina. Bought my 2nd American vehicle ever which was a 5th gen ZL1 in 5-speed manual (first ever manual car). Man these cars are AWESOME!
I love these new camaros especially the 1le i got the privilege to drive one for 270 miles for work
Edgar Robles did you drive my 1LE from Houston to San Antonio? :)
Carlos Cintron no it was in Virginia but that would of been pretty sweet to have driven your 1le :)
Just so you know, Chevrolet is not "artificially adding" weight to the steering in track mode. Any lightness in the steering is due to electronic assist. Therefore in track mode, it's just closer to the real weight you are feeling. And on the track, that feedback is necessary and useful. When canyon carving, it can be annoying though. Track mode steering is for the track. And it seems like you guys don't know that, I could be wrong though (sorry if I am).
What is this? I thought Nick had 2 ZL1s
I don't believe anyone gonna rev more accurately than the rev-match, whoever said he likes to rev himself is only his ego with a slow-ass lap time on track.
Not even listening, can't take my eyes of the surroundings. 🙌🏻
this guy is good. think he could start his own channel. comes across very well as a TV personality !
Great car, great review... omg, stop hitting the dash!!
This road reminds me so much of New Mexico, Hwy 82.
The longer I'm stuck in Virginia the more I miss New Mexico mountain roads.
I lived in Alamogordo for 10 years. I was stuck in Virginia as well for 7 years. Now I'm stuck in Ohio. I miss the mountains and the green chili.
Love that spoiler
Best deal out there. Best sports car for the money. If you want to step up from a GR86 and don't have Cayman money, get one of these.
absolutely
I couldn’t care less about the cars dashboard hardness level. I like Matt’s reviews but sometimes he strikes me as the kind of guy who would sit around comparing fancy watches at a party.
Motor trend NEEDS to do a head to head GT350 vs. SS 1LE, get on it johnny and jason!
Lol I just ordered a car in this exact spec/color. Cant wait!
Drotography You're gonna love it!!
Can I ask, was ordering it any more expensive than buying one from the lot?
Mark Speelman I got mine 41k off the lot after taxea and registration. 43 w/ extended warranty
I think what alot of interior heads need to get is that young people such as myself could sit in a tin can if it meant going fast as hell for little money haha
Very cool owner! Enjoy the car man!
For 2018, the $7,000 1LE package gives you:
Black hood wrap
Black front splitter
Black rear blade spoiler
Black outside rearview mirrors
Satin Graphite 20" forged-aluminum wheels with Goodyear® Eagle® F1 SuperCar 3 285/30R20 front and 305/30R20 rear, summer-only tires1
RECARO® performance front bucket seats
Suede-wrapped flat-bottom steering wheel and shift knob
Head-Up Display
Brembo® brakes with 6-piston monobloc front 2-piece rotors and 4-piston rear calipers
Red calipers with 1LE logo Performance exhaust
Magnetic Ride Control
Electronic Limited-Slip Differential (eLSD)
Performance-tuned suspension with unique bushings, springs and stabilizer bars
Hey Matt have you gotten a chance to drive a 2017 Chevy Camaro ZL1 yet?
Almost done paying my 2014 ss off but really want the 2018 since they are way better in every way idk if i wanna start all over but damm the new ss are so fast
Great video, great owner, and great car!
Ive always liked the white with black, the contrast just speaks out to me
BMW and Chevy I like this guy
How often do people actually touch their dashboards? I don’t have a Camaro but I never touch mine. If that keeps the price down, outstanding....
You can always put a nice piece of carpet on the dash.
You've really cheered up after your holiday Matt.
How's the low rpm PARTIAL throttle response? The C7 I owned for 3 weeks had poor low rpm PARTIAL throttle response. The throttle was like an on and off button. Wondering if GM has improved that in this car?
I own a C7 Stingray Z51 7M, and I have never experienced what you're describing. Low RPM partial throttle response is fine.
people seem to have very different perceptions of this. When I first test drove the C7 I felt the same sluggish, laggy low rpm throttle response but I linked this to the fact that there was a 300lb salesman in the car. When I had my C7 delivered I felt the same way. FOR ME, the c7 does not offer crisp immediate throttle response at lower throttle inputs, at least compared to other cars I have driven/owned. It is not a linear progressive natural feeling throttle. My main motivation for getting a C7 was low end torque and instant response. But it didn't offer that for me.
+Lava Peter - "FOR ME, the c7 does not offer crisp immediate throttle response at lower throttle inputs, at least compared to other cars I have driven/owned. It is not a linear progressive natural feeling throttle."
I understand that you're trying to frame this in the context of your own experiences, but my experiences are different. I have not experienced any of the lag you're talking about, and part of that is because of the direct injection which gives it much more response at lower RPM than for example the non-DI LS3 in the C6 Corvette.
Part of it may also have to do with which mode you were in at the time, as response is softer in touring mode than it is in track mode. I'm assuming you tested that already to verify.
Vernon Price i kept the car in sport or track mode and still felt this same lag/unresponsiveness...in 2 seperate cars...and for 3 weeks with the one i owned...but we all perceive differently
Well, I know what lag is, and I can't really apply that word to my Stingray's low RPM part throttle response. Mine is quite responsive. But just as a benchmark, what car, in your experience, does have good low RPM part throttle response?
I came from M cars to the Camaro as well, haven't looked back.
I just ordered one of these last week. apparently Hyper Blue is super rare and no dealer within 800 miles would do a dealer trade so I had to order. 6-10 weeks
Lincoln it is! I drove 5 hours to get my Hyper blue 1le. It was worth the drive though.
Andrew McGinnis I can't wait. I've already ordered some rock guards from zl1addons, I hear they are required because how many rocks the 285s305s pick up. going to start getting some quotes for ppf too. 10 weeks is so far away
Lincoln yeah, that's smart. The rock chips are a real thing. I did PPF and got the oem splash guards. They help for sure. The PPF is a must. Any other plans? I did the ZL1addon wicker bill spoiler and couple other small things. You will love the car. It's amazing!
Nope no other plans yet, just gotta start saving for winter wheels/tires and the money to replace the goodyears when they go out at like 10k miles lol
Lincoln lol. Lucky for me I live in Houston and don't need winter wheels. New tires with not be cheap tho. I plan on getting the Mpss. The stock tires do not like the rain
Best car I have ever owned!
My 17 1LE is all out fun!
"hard core german guy", only had 1 german car. 👏🏻
Arcnolokgia he means he's a big fan.
Arcnolokgia ima hard core japanese guy but i have a hyudai....
I wonder why he did not specify which 3 Series
I'm a hardcore pornography fan, but the closest I've ever gotten to making one was is when my mom took a picture of me getting a hair cut at Walmart while I was masturbating under the apron they make you wear.
Arcnolokgia I am a huge German car fan and I only have 1 German vehicle...
Very enjoyable One Take. Two dudes being honest AF and saying how it is. Well done, gents 👍
I would slap someone for knocking on my dash like that
That's just Matt's deep seeded hate for the Camaro in general. He's a ford boy thru and thru.
Trevor Puckett facts. It was so disrespectful and he did it multiple times
X V telling someone you don't like their shoes is completely fine. Repeatedly stepping on them while you say it is disrespectful.
nigga you gay
Big frank take it easy Riley
Surprised you didn't mention anything about the visibility through the front windshield. That was the deal breaker for me.
Hey Matt stop knocking the fucking dashboard again and again. It's fine knocking it once to prove the point.
Damn I have been waiting for this! I love the 1LE and I always look out for your opinions on cars because I find I tend to have the. Same opinion when it comes to things you don't like about cars, but nothing really bad to say about this one :)
I like that you say the fuck word more now, matt
always adds a touch of class
Most of the cars I've owned have been GM. My 2012 Chevy Malibu LTZ is still rock solid. The only interior problems I've had is with Toyota and Honda. The Toyota had door handles, and cup holders break. The Honda Accord had rattles in the dash. My Pontiac is 14 years old and NO rattles.
Was Matt high in this? Keeps knocking on the dash, mocking the owner who missions down to LA for this?
Jesus people are fucking delusional. The owner brings the car specifically for me to critique. That is literally the whole point. You want an ass kissing? Go watch Jay Leno.
As a car guy, you don't hit someone else's dash board 3 times like that.
Rob Wwhit oh, please. I don't know who arbitrarily decided dash boards have feelings. But they don't.
It's not about the dashboard feelings it's not you're new car...you know what i'm saying.. later BIG GUY.
Since when is missions a verb? Plus, Matt clearly loved the car, as have, all the other journeys who've driven a Camaro with the 1LE.
prepares for One Take by reading cars manual. This guys a champion
Just get a good artificial leather dashboard cover
When is the last time anyone has touched their dash? Besides to clean dust off
Hardcore German automotive fan than goes on to say he's owned an impala brz and 3 series lmao
I think he meant that he's a big fan of German cars, not that he's necessarily owned loads of them.
Bolek989 automatic brz and automatic 3series i may add....
I'm a hard core millionaire fan, I don't own a million dollars...
shit I can't be a fan of something unless I own it
Bolek989 im a big fan of the Dodgers yet i dont own the team.
Really great that GM is using a lot of the Corvette's ride control features in the newer Camaros 👍
why does it have paddles on the wheel if its a 6 speed manual ?
Mustang 487 the paddles activate/deactivate auto revmatch
This video is 90% of the reason I want one of these.
id be pissed if someone kept knocking on my dash like that....
Or just get a soft dash cover for cheap
+Peder Hansen Totally agreed, even my 2012 Mustang has a soft touch dash. No idea what GM were thinking with this step backwards...
I honestly don't get what the problem is with lightweight materials in places you don't touch.
If it were carbon fiber it would feel exactly the same and people would be singing it's praises.
The problem is 'lightweight' thin, crappy plastic, is going to start rattling like a bastard at 30k miles whereas a heavier, thicker, soft touch dash (or panel) won't. My 2011 WRX was rattling itself the fuck apart at 20k miles because of all the cheap shitty plastic whereas all the german cars I've ever owned were rock solid until the day I sold them. Even the mustang doesn't rattle.
He didnt break it.... dude took the car there to have Matt drive and review it....
In the most recent issue, R&T raves about the V6 with this 1LE handling package. It's slower, obviously, but also several hundred pounds lighter so even better handling they say (and cheaper). Would love to see Matt do a comparison.
that e38 tho 😮
its a shit car
exactly. don't see why people like POS old bimmers.
I've been eyeing the new Camaros for a while. I just saw this same one in all black and thinking of going to see it.
You need to learn more about your car. 1le comes with a lot more than mag ride,electric diff,seats,black hood. You get heads up display, short shifter, rear spoiler, front lip, suede wrap steering wheel, data recording,mpp exhaust. Matt Farrah likes to always judge the interior. Sorry man it's no Bugatti. It only cost 46k and beats a lots of cars that worth more.
He was about to say it comes with alot more but got cut off if u listen.....
Doesn't the description list almost all of that?
Yeah fuck that fuckin idiot for not fuckin knowing/saying everything thats on his fuckin car fuck that guy seriously if you dont fuckin know fuckin everything about it dont buy the fuckin car mate. FUCK!!
sam Ghanavati Lol you reading off the options list? A lot of what you said is obvious and redundant, the guy isn't going to list every single little difference.
Idiot, you get different wheels and tires too FFS. It's NPP, not MPP.. if you're gonna talk shit do it right at least ..!..
I have exactly the same car, can't wait to drive it later on
the top comment says moxie lmao somebody can use cool words
As a 2016 2ss owner, i can guarantee to everyone that the interior is beautiful. THE ONLY CHEAP PLASTIC IS THE GAUGE COVER. THE PART HE KNOCKED ON. Everything else is high end and very comfortable to the touch. At least in my 2SS... Its called American muscle. We pay to blow windows out of these intricate little foreign cars. Thats like a body builder painting his fingernails...
IT'S A MANUAL WITH PADDLE SHIFTERS??
GM cost cutting is what that is. Rather than having two different steering wheels they just change what the paddles do on the manual cars. As it was said above, they turn the rev-match on and off in the manuals.
rbeaton16 actually its better than that. The paddles are programable, like most of the functions of the other buttons. Just like the rotary style climate controls; A 1LT uses the right for fan control, a 2LT uses it for dual climate.
If you have the right software you could get the paddles to do whatever you want
I picked up a 2016 2ss a few months ago with a 6spd fully loaded with mrc and npp I love it