Sam , I live in California. I do not own a single train , but I absolutely love these videos you make. I am going to watch EVERY ONE OF THESE ! Thank you for sharing this with all of us!
That's very kind of you Olin, really glad you like them! And lucky you living in California - I'm sick of this bloody rain! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Just grabbed an old Hall Class on eBay & as I sub to your channel I was really pleased to find you had made this guide as I will need to give it a service . 90% of the layout & stock is old stuff from eBay as it has been made for my 5 year old grandson. I wanted something he could play with & survive being attacked by dinosaurs etc, not just look at. It is important that the layout is fun for both of us, not something to be precious about. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I think that’s what manufacturers are missing out on, models to be used and enjoyed by all ages, i often get second hand locomotives and rolling stock, as both me and my 11 yr old boy play trains, i dont want to spend 200+ on a single loco that I’m to frightened to take out the box. Most of my locomotives are from the 70s to early 2000s and easy and cheap to repair, and parts are usually pretty cheap to replace on peters spares,
Lights, camera, action, engines, Welcome to Sam's GW show. Lights, camera, action, engines, All aboard, let's go! My favourite servicing video of all. You made my day a happy Great Western one.
Great video Sam. Love the matter of fact way you disassemble and reassemble these models.What I learned is it really makes sense to have a good suite of tools around just makes it so much easier. Your very good with the soldering iron. I have one but hate using it in case I damage something!
+Russell Benton Thanks mate - I've always enjoyed disassembling locos... just as long as I can get them back together again! Thanks for the compliment on the soldering hehe, though I'm sure there's plenty who are much more impressive than me! But yeah, there is always the worry of damaging things with it - I keep the temperature high, which means that you can break contact quickly without causing unnecessary damage! Cheers, Sam :)
Incredibly useful. I have a triang hymek to restore, one of the old spider assembly motors, and a lot of what you have done on this particular video, can transfer over. Really enjoy these kind of videos, because everyone services things differently, I've been servicing locomotives for many years, yet I still learn from them. I try N gauge, now that is a whole different ballgame! Keep up the good work.
Interesting video this reminds me of when I restored my hall and I do know most of this but iv lernt some useful tips and its very rewarding seeing a loco run again I'd like to see more of these its a great video as always
+GWR23 Studios Oh yeah, I remember seeing your restored Hall class! Glad you liked the video anyway - I've got another one coming out tonight! Cheers, Sam :)
Spot on sir ... thank you ... I found one of these in a box this morning (can't say that I knew I had it) and was thinking I might have a go at getting it running ... sat down for a cuppa and his video came up on my recommendations .... perfect!
@@SamsTrains It sure was .... I had a great time taking the loco apart as per your video ...I learned a great deal...never had the nerve to remove/take apart a motor before ... great fun, and good to see it spinning around like a new one (it was dead to begin with) after cleaning it all up ... was great until I put it back in the chassis ... then it stops dead ... reckon that must be wierd ... runs fine but it only has to be held against the chassis and it stops dead ... hey ho
That was well worth watching since I will probably have to do that myself shortly. I have been collecting GWR locos and rolling stock ready to start my own layout and I need all the tips I can get to keep my locos running and healthy, lol.
Thanks Kevin, really glad to hear this will be useful for you! Good luck with the rest of your collection - I really like the sound of your GWR fleet! Thanks for watching,Sam :)
Great video Sam. Its all good stuff in the right order. Whilst many will already know how to do this. There are just as many who need the info / help. I did five years ago. After a 30 year break from playing with toy trains. I was really unsure where to start. There was not as much useful info / videos out there. We all need help from time to time. Again Great video. Oscar
i have a kneller hall loco which i purchased off ebay that ran poorly, after a service it ran really well but i did notice that it was quite a noisy loco, after watcing this video it would seem to be normal with these. the earlier triang hornby seem to run smoother and quieter! good video, i enjoyed.
Thanks Sam. I’ve just stumbled across your channel. I also own the Hornby Kneller Hall which I think I bought in the late 70s. It was always a nice runner back in the day, though it hasn’t been run for quite some time now.
Great video, Sam. Thanks. I have just bought this loco, so your video will be of great help. By the way, Kneller Hall (You pronounced it correctly) is the location of the Royal Military School of Music in Twickenham. You can now impress your friends with a bit of useless information. Best wishes.
Hi, Sam...I'm watching this in Sydney in 2024...what amazes me is that you have a piece of fanfold paper on that bench :P I didn't think that anyone except old farts like me had supplies of fanfold paper still, even in 2016 :P
Great job, Sam. I enjoyed this a lot. The three camera set-up works really well and the switching angles makes everything smooth to watch. Yes, I was nervous when you put her on the track...lol...but looking at the work you did, I was quite confident she'd run ok. By the way...I'd love a box of old screws, nuts and bolts from motors :) I've just serviced my old class 37 and I have a few more that could do with a service/rebuild. Anyway, nice work as always, mate...keep up the great work :)) Tom
+Tom's Model Railways Thanks a lot mate - I've always had trouble with my hands covering the 'action', so was my way of trying to avoid that! It is good fun doing these rebuilds or services, especially when the end result turns out okay! Good luck with your own servicing anyway! :D Thanks for the comment, Sam :)
Hi Sam, the restoration videos are very helpful and informative and help me a lot. also I dont think you saw but I replied to the comment on the Midland compound 1000, the bachmann one is well worth every penny spent to get one because they are stunning. cheers mate, Lewis :)
Oh my Sam! I know this was months ago but the tender noise was realistic chuffing its a piece of metal on a set of tender wheels clipping some plastic(or whatever) 😜
Hi mate, yeah the tender noise is great - it's actually scraping a piece of emery board, which makes a surprisingly great noise! I love them! :D Cheers, Sam :)
Sam, those oil bottles are hard to control the flow of oil I personally use a small syringe with the needle this will get into the remote areas where normally you have to strip the loco down, Great video keep them coming. ACE.
+itloon Thanks mate, buying all those lights was one of the best things I've done! And yeah, the Bull was on door duty, but he struggles to reach the door handle :( Cheers, Sam :)
My Jinty is in a state of distress. The two protruding pieces of metal inside are off, and so is the metal wire thing at the top of the motor. The yellow wire connected to the top of the motor is also off.
Ahh sorry to hear that Fuzzy - sounds like you need to get the pickups back behind the wheels! Take a look at my Thomas servicing video - that has the same chassis! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Sam another great video, it is pronounced "Neller Hall" the k is most definitely silent. Kneller Hall is the home of the School of Army music in London, it is right behind Twickenham Stadium. Once again thank you for taking the time and trouble to do these instructional videos.
As I have one of those loco's I was very interested in seeing your service as I intend to sell mine very soon. I did motice that after servicing the motor & chassis, you dusted the body directly over everything you had just serbiced !!!! I hope all worked well after !
Hi! Thanks very much for the comment! It diddn't matter about the dusting here, since the body was already perfectly clean anyway, but yeah I guess I shouldn't have done that! All the best, Sam :)
+Sam'sTrains Hi Sam , wonder if you could help me with a query I have . New DMU I have derails on a couple of my points and thought it was a point problem until I saw a video on same being caused by the wheels too far apart . I do not have a wheel guide so just moved the wheels closer on the offending bogie just a little and problem solved . Would you or John at Chambs 123 know the correct distance between wheels or if there is such an item as a wheel gauge guide . .......Peter .
+Peter Shaw Hi Peter, thanks for the message! You're right, a lot of de-railments do happen as a result of poor gauging - especially on Hornby locos! Me and John tend to gauge locos by eye, although I'm sure there are devices for gauging! If you're able to remove the wheels, you want to put each set on a point, and you want the wheels far enough apart so that they don't drop down between the rails on the point (Hornby points have a tiny section where the track is cut away slightly) You also want them close enough together to have a reasonable amount of left/right movement on the track too. It sounds like you've got the right idea though, I tend just to use trial and error! :) Cheers mate, Sam :)
+Sam'sTrains Thanks for that info Sam , I used a goods wagon that ran ok and put it to the DMU wheels and could see the differance . There is always something new to learn in this hobby . Much appreciated . Regards . Peter .
i learnt alot i know most of anyway from what my gdad use to tell and show me but that was over 20 years it nice to have a re fresh thanks for sharing i think the best hall you have is lord westward i think it called ade
+Adi Pullen Thanks mate, glad it was able to help even though you knew the stuff! It's great fun tinkering with these! And agreed, Westwood is really lovely, probably is the best! Cheers mate, Sam :)
Huh that's really interesting because a lot of American HO models have that same motor. I've seen them with "pittman" stamped on them, I don't know who made them originally. I have a Tyco ten wheeler, a Varney 4-4-0, and an interurban trolley with that motor. Also, two Marx HO diesels with very similar motors. Neat the way things like that get around.
+Wilso 1947 Thanks mate, I think you can get them from model shops or similar, but mine came from Ebay - quite a few years back now too! Cheers mate, Sam :)
Found your video very helpful as I have a number of locos from the 60s/70s including two non-runners which all need servicing Was the Hall able to negotiate points ok or did you need to add extra pickups in the tender?
hi Sam nice video am just wondering what type of solder wire you use I have a number of models in need of soldering but am unsure as to which solder wire to use resin or acid?
apologies if you have covered it but what track do you use? i bought a hornby class 52 c1980 and it ran lovely on trix twin which is my old train set cos i am quite old but when i tried it on peco set track it wasn't so good, same with a mainline class 45 except that was worse. lima locos run well on both - they are great value robust models don't you think. i can't understand why anybody would do thumbs down for these great videos.
+Why Not? Don't be scared to! It can help them run better, as long as you're careful! Start with a cheap tri-ang 0-6-0 to practice on... nothing can go wrong! :D Cheers, Sam :)
Great video ! I’ve just serviced my Fowler runs great with wires in motor but won’t run on track . Can’t see any broken wires any ideas Sam . It’s almost as if it shorts out when in the track .
Hmmm... is any of the pickup assembly or wiring touching the chassis? Are the wheels completely free of the chassis? Sounds like there could be something shorting! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great video! I have a model exactly like this one but with plastic driving wheels that I bought off a family friend a while back, however, the loco itself cannot move without assistance. I tried cleaning it with the basic tools and materials around the house but it still sparks and jolts forward when tested. It works okay on curves but refuses to move on straights. Should I try and clean it again properly or just get a new motor off eBay?
Thanks so much! Plastic driving wheels?! Is it the insides of the wheels that are plastic maybe? I think I know what you mean! Yes it sounds like there may be motor trouble there - a new one may fix her... make sure you get the one with the nylon worm though, not the metal one! If you don't get any luck there, feel free to send it to me, and I can try to repair it for you! All the best, Sam :)
Hi Sam, watched a few of your videos and always impressed. How do you switch camera angles? That is one feature i'd like to add. I presume you don't record four(?) cameras and then edit?!Keep up the good work
I have a tank engine that needs a clean and new rods. Recon u can fix it? If u can, be careful! It was out of my 1st hornby train set. All the best, Luke Hill :-)
+Harry Chapman I got mine on ebay, if you just search for a gaugemaster oil pen, but I assume you should be able to get them from model shops too! :) Cheers, Sam :)
I believe you made a mistake in that assumption about the motor, the proper way to tell what type of motor it is is by the felt lubricating pads, if it has none, it's an X.03, if it has one, it's an X.03.5 and if it has two, it's an X.04, still a great video!
Cleared out my attic on the weekend and found all my model engine gear in a large box I'd forgotten about. The Kneller Hall is in there. I'm 55 now so too old for such things. Am building a set for my grandson now. It's not for me. It's for my grandson. Honest!!!
Nice one Sam, this one has shallower wheel flanges, so will probably be happier over the points. Just a tiny bit of lube on the tender axles and she's ready for action. : ) Regards, Cliff.
+janiceandcliff Thanks Cliff! This one's quite a late model, nicely into the Tri-ang/Hornby era, so she's running great on modern track! The tender's had a little TLC now, and is running great too! Cheers mate, Sam :)
I'm trying to repair mine now. Previous owner had it setup for Dcc, I run DC so I pulled it out and tried to bring it back to analog. There is power now but when I try to run it it dosent sound great and I see sparks coming from where the brushes are. Would you, Sam , or anyone know what the problem is? I am knew to the hobby and this is my first restoration project
Hey! Good choice converting back to DC - these aren't good on DCC at all! The sparks could be a number of things - is the suppression capacitor missing? Does the magnet feel weak? Can you measure the resistance of each coil to see whether they're in good shape? The sparks can indicate high current draw, which suggests some kind of motor fault. Is the wheelset free to turn without the motor? Good luck!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I couldn't tell you actually! I'd assume they use similar principles - so generally speaking I'd guess they would be comparable! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
For reference, when under a battery, the motor works fine. When hooked up and on the tracks with the shiniest wheels and pickups if ever seen, it doesn't go at all, and occasionally there is smoke
Hey Rory - the motor shouldn't be burned out unless it's the motor windings themselves that are shorted - the motor should be safe if it was the pickups doing the shorting - you just need to correct the issue before it'll work again. Have you tried a full stripdown and service? Make sure the pickups/wires aren't contacting the metal chassis! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Been fiddling around a bit more. I noticed th problem after a light clean. It's jerky, but sometimes if I just leave I over night it will sort itself out. I've actually replaced the wire pickups with wiper ones so we will see how that goes. Thanks Sam!
Hi Sam. Enjoyed your video. I have an elderly Princess Royal that dates back to the 60s. As a result of your video I will give her a service. By the way, where did you source the oil dispenser. It looks very effective to me. Reds Martin
+Martin Parry Thanks very much, best of luck with your own servicing! The oil pen was a gaugemaster one, and you can get them on Ebay, or from model shops too presumably - they're perfect for dropping small amounts of oil into difficult spaces! :) Cheers, Sam
Sorry to hear that! If it's sparking and not running, you could have a short - double check nothing is shorting with the chassis, and make sure the pickups and their wires aren't touching the chassis either! Merry Christmas - Sam :)
3:03 what I thought when my triang spitfire broke, itll be a simple repair though Two years later finally runs again with new contacts, motor and completely rewired
Nice! Must have been a long job, I have a hornby Gordon that made smoke from the engine, I just gave up after a few months and replaced it with a hornby James motor and it looks better on the outside and works better on the inside!
I remember when I was restoreding my 55 year old tri ang class 08 and when I first opened it up the brushes where upside down and the wheel set was stuck they wouldn't move
creating a new copper contact isnt too difficult, I would be very careful with trying to bend these parts in situ as the plastic brush holders are really pretty weak
Hi Sam Do you still have this loco? I have one but it runs poorly! :( I am in the middle of doing this and will have to continue another time. Sadly though I think that this Hall is a gonner. Thanks for your help. Josh :)
Hey Josh! Yeah I still have it - it depends what's wrong - is the chassis in good condition? There are a few variables - do you have a way to check the motor? Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Ive made a complete mess of this service on mine.. i melted the contact of the brush and there is a red wire coming from the engine interior which I have no idea where it goes... I tried to see how yours was wired but your hand was in the way at the crucial moment
Ahh sorry to hear that mate - is it the plastic brush retainer on the motor that's melted? There's only one essential wire with these, it goes from the pickups to the left motor brush! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains no it was the little (now rounded worn contact pad) I heated the brush so much it fell off. I have just been trying to solder it back on and it flew off never to be seen again... i even put some white paper down too... I am trying to buy some new ones and don't know whether they will fit. As for the red wire it has been soldered onto the contact strip in contact with the wheels and threaded up through the chassis... it just ends in a bear end. I could send a pic. I know what you mean about feeling like killing yourself trying to get those brushes into the motor while still attached... if i had had a cat it would be dead too. My loco is SIr Dinadan. |Thanks for the videos I am becoming obsessed. The wiring harness with the loop i put back on the screw... and then soldered the other end to the top of the bush.,... but the red wire... still puzzling me
My train set trains had X03 motors. Survived childhood and would have lasted forever if the wheel flanges had not been too deep for modern track. Modern motors might be recessed but not so good for survivability.
Thanks Alan - yes this is very true, though a lot of the later ones had flanges just fine - these Halls are fine on modern track! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
+glen tonkin Thanks Glen, it's a little in-between, during the tri-ang/Hornby period after the two companies merged, but before they simply became Hornby. Cheers, Sam :)
Sam ,
I live in California. I do not own a single train , but I absolutely love these videos you make. I am going to watch EVERY ONE OF THESE !
Thank you for sharing this with all of us!
That's very kind of you Olin, really glad you like them! And lucky you living in California - I'm sick of this bloody rain!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Just grabbed an old Hall Class on eBay & as I sub to your channel I was really pleased to find you had made this guide as I will need to give it a service . 90% of the layout & stock is old stuff from eBay as it has been made for my 5 year old grandson. I wanted something he could play with & survive being attacked by dinosaurs etc, not just look at. It is important that the layout is fun for both of us, not something to be precious about. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I think that’s what manufacturers are missing out on, models to be used and enjoyed by all ages, i often get second hand locomotives and rolling stock, as both me and my 11 yr old boy play trains, i dont want to spend 200+ on a single loco that I’m to frightened to take out the box. Most of my locomotives are from the 70s to early 2000s and easy and cheap to repair, and parts are usually pretty cheap to replace on peters spares,
Always interesting watching you service a loco Sam.
Cheers mate. All the best
one of my favourite videos by you sam! you definitely got her running nice and smooth in the end 😀-all the best
Hi mate, thanks very much - I think these are the videos I enjoy making the most - very satisfying to get a loco running! :D
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
3:00 a very good look at how to handle the motors. Similar to pre-1964 slot cars such as Atlas, Pittman and others.
Lights, camera, action, engines,
Welcome to Sam's GW show.
Lights, camera, action, engines,
All aboard, let's go!
My favourite servicing video of all. You made my day a happy Great Western one.
haha love it - great little jingle! :D
Great video Sam. Love the matter of fact way you disassemble and reassemble these models.What I learned is it really makes sense to have a good suite of tools around just makes it so much easier. Your very good with the soldering iron. I have one but hate using it in case I damage something!
+Russell Benton Thanks mate - I've always enjoyed disassembling locos... just as long as I can get them back together again! Thanks for the compliment on the soldering hehe, though I'm sure there's plenty who are much more impressive than me! But yeah, there is always the worry of damaging things with it - I keep the temperature high, which means that you can break contact quickly without causing unnecessary damage!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Incredibly useful. I have a triang hymek to restore, one of the old spider assembly motors, and a lot of what you have done on this particular video, can transfer over. Really enjoy these kind of videos, because everyone services things differently, I've been servicing locomotives for many years, yet I still learn from them. I try N gauge, now that is a whole different ballgame! Keep up the good work.
Excellent , filled a bit of time and learnt a bit more whilst waiting on the phone to ring , lock down and all that
Glad to hear that Nigel - really glad this helped you find something to do!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Good job Sam - I enjoyed watching your video.
Thanks so much John! :D
Interesting video this reminds me of when I restored my hall and I do know most of this but iv lernt some useful tips and its very rewarding seeing a loco run again I'd like to see more of these its a great video as always
+GWR23 Studios Oh yeah, I remember seeing your restored Hall class! Glad you liked the video anyway - I've got another one coming out tonight!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Spot on sir ... thank you ... I found one of these in a box this morning (can't say that I knew I had it) and was thinking I might have a go at getting it running ... sat down for a cuppa and his video came up on my recommendations .... perfect!
Thanks very much Steve, glad this was some help for you! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
@@SamsTrains It sure was .... I had a great time taking the loco apart as per your video ...I learned a great deal...never had the nerve to remove/take apart a motor before ... great fun, and good to see it spinning around like a new one (it was dead to begin with) after cleaning it all up ... was great until I put it back in the chassis ... then it stops dead ... reckon that must be wierd ... runs fine but it only has to be held against the chassis and it stops dead ... hey ho
That was well worth watching since I will probably have to do that myself shortly. I have been collecting GWR locos and rolling stock ready to start my own layout and I need all the tips I can get to keep my locos running and healthy, lol.
Thanks Kevin, really glad to hear this will be useful for you! Good luck with the rest of your collection - I really like the sound of your GWR fleet!
Thanks for watching,Sam :)
The RX motor, many Scalextric cars and Hornby trains used that for years.
Great video Sam. Its all good stuff in the right order. Whilst many will already know how to do this. There are just as many who need the info / help. I did five years ago. After a 30 year break from playing with toy trains. I was really unsure where to start. There was not as much useful info / videos out there. We all need help from time to time.
Again Great video. Oscar
+Oscar Paisley Thanks a lot Oscar, glad you thought it was alright - It's something I do a lot, but thought it'd be nice to film!
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
i have a kneller hall loco which i purchased off ebay that ran poorly, after a service it ran really well but i did notice that it was quite a noisy loco, after watcing this video it would seem to be normal with these. the earlier triang hornby seem to run smoother and quieter! good video, i enjoyed.
Hi Sam, very nice "how to" and well done for fixing it...Simon
+Liverton -Simon Thanks mate, glad you liked it! :)
Cheers,
Sam :)
Wow, that takes me back a bit, I used to have that loco in the very early 80's. The pronunciation was perfect 😀
Thanks mate - these are real classics! haha glad to hear that xD
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Good tutorial. Like the multi angle.
Thanks a lot mate! :D
Thanks Sam. I’ve just stumbled across your channel. I also own the Hornby Kneller Hall which I think I bought in the late 70s. It was always a nice runner back in the day, though it hasn’t been run for quite some time now.
Thanks a lot for your comment - worth giving yours a go - usually they will run perfectly well after a quick service!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great video, Sam. Thanks. I have just bought this loco, so your video will be of great help. By the way, Kneller Hall (You pronounced it correctly) is the location of the Royal Military School of Music in Twickenham. You can now impress your friends with a bit of useless information. Best wishes.
Hi Still catching up, an excellent and very practical support video for model enthusiats.
No problem mate - really glad you liked it! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Hi, Sam...I'm watching this in Sydney in 2024...what amazes me is that you have a piece of fanfold paper on that bench :P I didn't think that anyone except old farts like me had supplies of fanfold paper still, even in 2016 :P
Makes me wonder if should rethink working in N scale. Very informative, thanks for the lesson.
Ooh that's your choice mate - there are some lovely models in both N and 00 scale of course! :D
Happy New Year,
Sam :)
Great job, Sam. I enjoyed this a lot. The three camera set-up works really well and the switching angles makes everything smooth to watch. Yes, I was nervous when you put her on the track...lol...but looking at the work you did, I was quite confident she'd run ok. By the way...I'd love a box of old screws, nuts and bolts from motors :) I've just serviced my old class 37 and I have a few more that could do with a service/rebuild. Anyway, nice work as always, mate...keep up the great work :)) Tom
+Tom's Model Railways Thanks a lot mate - I've always had trouble with my hands covering the 'action', so was my way of trying to avoid that! It is good fun doing these rebuilds or services, especially when the end result turns out okay! Good luck with your own servicing anyway! :D
Thanks for the comment,
Sam :)
Hi Sam, the restoration videos are very helpful and informative and help me a lot. also I dont think you saw but I replied to the comment on the Midland compound 1000, the bachmann one is well worth every penny spent to get one because they are stunning.
cheers mate,
Lewis :)
+Lewis Shields Thanks mate, glad they were useful! I'll go and check for your reply now,
Thanks again,
Sam :)
This vid will help me mend my trains. THX for this how to!
Luke Hill, hornby begginer :-)
That's good to hear Luke - good luck! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Oh my Sam! I know this was months ago but the tender noise was realistic chuffing its a piece of metal on a set of tender wheels clipping some plastic(or whatever) 😜
Hi mate, yeah the tender noise is great - it's actually scraping a piece of emery board, which makes a surprisingly great noise! I love them! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Ah yes, the old days
Yes indeed!! :D
Sam, those oil bottles are hard to control the flow of oil I personally use a small syringe with the needle this will get into the remote areas where normally you have to strip the loco down, Great video keep them coming. ACE.
Nice demo Sam, very enjoyable.....kids thought there was someone on the doorbell.....never clicked it was on the video....haha 😳😳
+mairuz1 haha yeah don't worry - I thought I heard the doorbell too while I was editing it, very realistic lol!
Cheers,
Sam :)
These extra lights and camera angles are useful. Good demonstration. You'll need to train your bull to answer the door and sign for parcels. Alan.
+itloon Thanks mate, buying all those lights was one of the best things I've done! And yeah, the Bull was on door duty, but he struggles to reach the door handle :(
Cheers,
Sam :)
ROFL!!!!!
@@SamsTrainsi got a tri-ang jinty and it looks like it got sat on
Thank you, very useful, i got one of those a few days ago, "unensambled" so 🙌🙌🙌😉👍⚡
This video helped me to restore My tri ang hornby hall class
Ooh awesome - that's great to hear Charlie! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
My Jinty is in a state of distress. The two protruding pieces of metal inside are off, and so is the metal wire thing at the top of the motor. The yellow wire connected to the top of the motor is also off.
Ahh sorry to hear that Fuzzy - sounds like you need to get the pickups back behind the wheels! Take a look at my Thomas servicing video - that has the same chassis!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
after watching that very good how to, I think ile service my kneller hall thanks for sharing
Awesome Keith, all the best of luck with that! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Sam another great video, it is pronounced "Neller Hall" the k is most definitely silent. Kneller Hall is the home of the School of Army music in London, it is right behind Twickenham Stadium. Once again thank you for taking the time and trouble to do these instructional videos.
Thanks a lot for that Mick - not sure why I pronounced the K in the video! Thanks a lot for the info, and my pleasure! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
As I have one of those loco's I was very interested in seeing your service as I intend to sell mine very soon. I did motice that after servicing the motor & chassis, you dusted the body directly over everything you had just serbiced !!!! I hope all worked well after !
Hi! Thanks very much for the comment! It diddn't matter about the dusting here, since the body was already perfectly clean anyway, but yeah I guess I shouldn't have done that!
All the best,
Sam :)
Hi Sam & don't mind me I'm only joking with you, your attention to detail is superb, I wish I was able to do half the servicing you do, well done
Good demo Sam , just watched it with the sound off while one eye on the tele lol . Nice job done and looks to be running ok now . ........Peter .
+Peter Shaw Thanks mate - It's something I'm doing all the time, so I though it'd be nice to film it for once! :D
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
+Sam'sTrains Hi Sam , wonder if you could help me with a query I have . New DMU I have derails on a couple of my points and thought it was a point problem until I saw a video on same being caused by the wheels too far apart . I do not have a wheel guide so just moved the wheels closer on the offending bogie just a little and problem solved . Would you or John at Chambs 123 know the correct distance between wheels or if there is such an item as a wheel gauge guide . .......Peter .
+Peter Shaw Hi Peter, thanks for the message! You're right, a lot of de-railments do happen as a result of poor gauging - especially on Hornby locos! Me and John tend to gauge locos by eye, although I'm sure there are devices for gauging! If you're able to remove the wheels, you want to put each set on a point, and you want the wheels far enough apart so that they don't drop down between the rails on the point (Hornby points have a tiny section where the track is cut away slightly) You also want them close enough together to have a reasonable amount of left/right movement on the track too.
It sounds like you've got the right idea though, I tend just to use trial and error! :)
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
+Sam'sTrains Thanks for that info Sam , I used a goods wagon that ran ok and put it to the DMU wheels and could see the differance . There is always something new to learn in this hobby .
Much appreciated .
Regards .
Peter .
Hi i have an old Triang Princess set what is the best way to clean rust off the rails. They are the grey plastic ones
i learnt alot
i know most of anyway from what my gdad use to tell and show me but that was over 20 years it nice to have a re fresh
thanks for sharing
i think the best hall you have is lord westward i think it called
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+Adi Pullen Thanks mate, glad it was able to help even though you knew the stuff! It's great fun tinkering with these!
And agreed, Westwood is really lovely, probably is the best!
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
Huh that's really interesting because a lot of American HO models have that same motor. I've seen them with "pittman" stamped on them, I don't know who made them originally. I have a Tyco ten wheeler, a Varney 4-4-0, and an interurban trolley with that motor. Also, two Marx HO diesels with very similar motors. Neat the way things like that get around.
Yes quite a few of them do have a similar motor, you're right! They are great though - very reliable! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Another great video Sam, I had complete faith in you. Just wondering where you bought your helping hands from. Keep up the good work. John from Oz.
+Wilso 1947 Thanks mate, I think you can get them from model shops or similar, but mine came from Ebay - quite a few years back now too!
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
Yesterday I restored my tri ang Hornby Hall class and its special to me because it has a chuffing sound and no dcc chip
Hi Charlie, that's really good to hear - glad you were able to restore it! :D
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
Very helpful
+Nigel Carter Thanks mate! :)
Found your video very helpful as I have a number of locos from the 60s/70s including two non-runners which all need servicing
Was the Hall able to negotiate points ok or did you need to add extra pickups in the tender?
What do you use to magnetise with.
hi Sam nice video am just wondering what type of solder wire you use I have a number of models in need of soldering but am unsure as to which solder wire to use resin or acid?
apologies if you have covered it but what track do you use? i bought a hornby class 52 c1980 and it ran lovely on trix twin which is my old train set cos i am quite old but when i tried it on peco set track it wasn't so good, same with a mainline class 45 except that was worse. lima locos run well on both - they are great value robust models don't you think. i can't understand why anybody would do thumbs down for these great videos.
Great video! I'm afraid I'm too scared to touch the inside of locos. :( It was very good to see the insides! Keep it up!
+Why Not? Don't be scared to! It can help them run better, as long as you're careful! Start with a cheap tri-ang 0-6-0 to practice on... nothing can go wrong! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
+Sam'sTrains ok, I'll try. :/
Tell us more about that little magnetiser, I guess from your comment it works well... I have some new magnets but the rest are pretty ancient
It sure does work well! I did a video on it I believe, you may be able to find it!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I got this very vesion of this loco. It has the magnified wheels.
Oh very cool - it's such a good idea!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
If only real life restorations were this easy!
haha absolutely!! ;D
Great video ! I’ve just serviced my Fowler runs great with wires in motor but won’t run on track . Can’t see any broken wires any ideas Sam . It’s almost as if it shorts out when in the track .
Hmmm... is any of the pickup assembly or wiring touching the chassis? Are the wheels completely free of the chassis? Sounds like there could be something shorting!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi Sam. Do you have any tutorials on servicing hornby X6331 motor
Great video! I have a model exactly like this one but with plastic driving wheels that I bought off a family friend a while back, however, the loco itself cannot move without assistance. I tried cleaning it with the basic tools and materials around the house but it still sparks and jolts forward when tested. It works okay on curves but refuses to move on straights. Should I try and clean it again properly or just get a new motor off eBay?
Thanks so much! Plastic driving wheels?! Is it the insides of the wheels that are plastic maybe? I think I know what you mean! Yes it sounds like there may be motor trouble there - a new one may fix her... make sure you get the one with the nylon worm though, not the metal one!
If you don't get any luck there, feel free to send it to me, and I can try to repair it for you!
All the best,
Sam :)
Great vid, is it possible to change the motor for a brushless type?
Thank you! It'd be very difficult to get a brushless motor into one of these, because you can't just run them on DC!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Good video. Get a fibre pen for cleaning tarnished metal. Much better than scraping with a screwdriver. 👍🏽
Thanks Vic - yes they do work very well, I've used one for some time too!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
This is the first tender locomotive I ever got. In my Thomas videos, I call it Nella.
Ooh fantastic - that's a great name for her! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Where can I get the locomotive holder for servicing
That's a piece of pipe insulation that I used - but I've never seen any more like them!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I liked it
+Nigel Carter cheers mate, hope it was useful!
Thanks again,
Sam :)
Hi Sam, watched a few of your videos and always impressed. How do you switch camera angles? That is one feature i'd like to add. I presume you don't record four(?) cameras and then edit?!Keep up the good work
+SoRTs6233 Thanks a lot for the kind comment - I just film it with three cameras, and then just edit between them in post production! :)
Cheers,
Sam
Thanks Sam. It sounds simple when you put it that way! I think I will try that with some of my videos.
Cheers
I have a tank engine that needs a clean and new rods. Recon u can fix it? If u can, be careful! It was out of my 1st hornby train set.
All the best, Luke Hill :-)
Hi Luke, I can do servicing, but I can't offer major repairs such as new rods!
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
Could you give me the link to your review of this?
Sure, here it is: czcams.com/video/XOgFJWMj8a8/video.html
It's an old one - but it shows off the engine quite nicely!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
where did you get your oiling pen from after mine broke
+Harry Chapman I got mine on ebay, if you just search for a gaugemaster oil pen, but I assume you should be able to get them from model shops too! :)
Cheers,
Sam :)
I believe you made a mistake in that assumption about the motor, the proper way to tell what type of motor it is is by the felt lubricating pads, if it has none, it's an X.03, if it has one, it's an X.03.5 and if it has two, it's an X.04, still a great video!
Cleared out my attic on the weekend and found all my model engine gear in a large box I'd forgotten about. The Kneller Hall is in there. I'm 55 now so too old for such things. Am building a set for my grandson now. It's not for me. It's for my grandson. Honest!!!
That's fantastic Mike - haha I believe you, it's for your Grandson... everyone says that! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Nice one Sam, this one has shallower wheel flanges, so will probably be happier over the points.
Just a tiny bit of lube on the tender axles and she's ready for action. : )
Regards, Cliff.
+janiceandcliff Thanks Cliff! This one's quite a late model, nicely into the Tri-ang/Hornby era, so she's running great on modern track!
The tender's had a little TLC now, and is running great too!
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
Sam what is the most reliable motor in your opinion?
Hmmm, probably these X04 motors actually! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I'm trying to repair mine now. Previous owner had it setup for Dcc, I run DC so I pulled it out and tried to bring it back to analog. There is power now but when I try to run it it dosent sound great and I see sparks coming from where the brushes are. Would you, Sam , or anyone know what the problem is? I am knew to the hobby and this is my first restoration project
Hey! Good choice converting back to DC - these aren't good on DCC at all! The sparks could be a number of things - is the suppression capacitor missing? Does the magnet feel weak? Can you measure the resistance of each coil to see whether they're in good shape? The sparks can indicate high current draw, which suggests some kind of motor fault. Is the wheelset free to turn without the motor?
Good luck!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Thanks for your help , I will try all I can and let you know if I get it in a good running position
Are there any major differences between servicing a h0 loco and a g scale loco
I couldn't tell you actually! I'd assume they use similar principles - so generally speaking I'd guess they would be comparable!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains thanks for answering
10:26 very professional.
+Why Not? Oh yeah, not to mention the doorbell incident - I thought that was very professional of me too! ;)
Fixing Great Wastern class once again
Good luck with it Jack! :D
Been doin this yet somethin shorted an burned out the motor. I think it was the pickup assembly as before hand the motor was fine with a battery
For reference, when under a battery, the motor works fine. When hooked up and on the tracks with the shiniest wheels and pickups if ever seen, it doesn't go at all, and occasionally there is smoke
Hey Rory - the motor shouldn't be burned out unless it's the motor windings themselves that are shorted - the motor should be safe if it was the pickups doing the shorting - you just need to correct the issue before it'll work again. Have you tried a full stripdown and service? Make sure the pickups/wires aren't contacting the metal chassis!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Been fiddling around a bit more. I noticed th problem after a light clean. It's jerky, but sometimes if I just leave I over night it will sort itself out. I've actually replaced the wire pickups with wiper ones so we will see how that goes. Thanks Sam!
At the moment I am track cleaning
Ooh okay! Good luck! :3
Cheers,
Sam :)
I've got the same one as you.
Very nice! They are great little models these :3
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
thanks for replying
Can you do a 0-4-0 service
I could do Seth - they're quite easy though - just a wheel clean and drop of oil is usually enough!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Could you review this loco please?
I think I did do - look up Samstrains Hall class on CZcams! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Hi Sam. Enjoyed your video. I have an elderly Princess Royal that dates back to the 60s. As a result of your video I will give her a service. By the way, where did you source the oil dispenser. It looks very effective to me. Reds Martin
+Martin Parry Thanks very much, best of luck with your own servicing! The oil pen was a gaugemaster one, and you can get them on Ebay, or from model shops too presumably - they're perfect for dropping small amounts of oil into difficult spaces! :)
Cheers,
Sam
Im trying to repair an old 4-6-0, it doesnt run at all but sometimes sparks come off the wheels, could you help me sam?
Sorry to hear that! If it's sparking and not running, you could have a short - double check nothing is shorting with the chassis, and make sure the pickups and their wires aren't touching the chassis either!
Merry Christmas - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Thanks for that Sam. Will do that now.
Do you still have her?? I don't think I've seen her since!!
Yeah I do! I really ought to run her more :3
All the best,
Sam :)
What type of oil do you use on the nylon worm
I use regular light machine oil - it works just fine! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains cheers
3:03 what I thought when my triang spitfire broke, itll be a simple repair though
Two years later finally runs again with new contacts, motor and completely rewired
Ahh great to hear you managed to fix it mate - brilliant work! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Nice! Must have been a long job, I have a hornby Gordon that made smoke from the engine, I just gave up after a few months and replaced it with a hornby James motor and it looks better on the outside and works better on the inside!
I remember when I was restoreding my 55 year old tri ang class 08 and when I first opened it up the brushes where upside down and the wheel set was stuck they wouldn't move
Oh blimey - that sounds rough! Did you manage to fix it up?? :3
Cheers,
Sam :)
Yep
Is that applicator for the oil you are using avaliable online?
Yes it should be - try searching for oil pen, or gaugemaster oil!
Happy New Year,
Sam :)
Thank you. Happy New Year
I have that same engine
Ooh awesome! These were very popular once upon a time :3
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
I now have Kneller Hall and the motor has old oil
Ooh does it have one of the oil bottles? Those are so cool! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
creating a new copper contact isnt too difficult, I would be very careful with trying to bend these parts in situ as the plastic brush holders are really pretty weak
You're right - I've done it before, not a huge issue to make new ones!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
nice loco...kai
+Braunton 34046 Cheers mate - I'll have to run her properly in a video at some point! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Hi Sam
Do you still have this loco?
I have one but it runs poorly! :(
I am in the middle of doing this and will have to continue another time. Sadly though I think that this Hall is a gonner.
Thanks for your help.
Josh :)
Hey Josh! Yeah I still have it - it depends what's wrong - is the chassis in good condition? There are a few variables - do you have a way to check the motor?
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
You need a fibre glass pen for the brushes and commutator cleaning a screwdriver just don’t cut it
Ive made a complete mess of this service on mine.. i melted the contact of the brush and there is a red wire coming from the engine interior which I have no idea where it goes... I tried to see how yours was wired but your hand was in the way at the crucial moment
Ahh sorry to hear that mate - is it the plastic brush retainer on the motor that's melted? There's only one essential wire with these, it goes from the pickups to the left motor brush!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains no it was the little (now rounded worn contact pad) I heated the brush so much it fell off. I have just been trying to solder it back on and it flew off never to be seen again... i even put some white paper down too... I am trying to buy some new ones and don't know whether they will fit. As for the red wire it has been soldered onto the contact strip in contact with the wheels and threaded up through the chassis... it just ends in a bear end. I could send a pic. I know what you mean about feeling like killing yourself trying to get those brushes into the motor while still attached... if i had had a cat it would be dead too. My loco is SIr Dinadan. |Thanks for the videos I am becoming obsessed. The wiring harness with the loop i put back on the screw... and then soldered the other end to the top of the bush.,... but the red wire... still puzzling me
My train set trains had X03 motors. Survived childhood and would have lasted forever if the wheel flanges had not been too deep for modern track. Modern motors might be recessed but not so good for survivability.
Thanks Alan - yes this is very true, though a lot of the later ones had flanges just fine - these Halls are fine on modern track!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
The greatest news is you can buy wheels that have been re-profiled
I guess this is the railroads steam shops
The railroads steam shops?? ;D
My loft definitely feels like it at times!!
Cheers,
Sam :)
even younger looking Sam, dose not use face cam.
still very much fan of a steam tho so still entertaining.
haha yeah you're right! Thanks mate, glad you liked it!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Cool video but when I watching when you said oops something fell down of train my self
+devon junction Thanks a lot for the comment - and ooh gosh that's a bit weird haha!
Cheers,
Sam :)
nice model sam is it an old triang or hornby
+glen tonkin Thanks Glen, it's a little in-between, during the tri-ang/Hornby period after the two companies merged, but before they simply became Hornby.
Cheers,
Sam :)
+Sam'sTrains i will be getting a j50 soon
Awesome! Enjoy it! :D
Will do sam
i got a tri-ang jinty and it looks like it got sat on
Uh oh!! Is it okay?!? :O
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains its fine but it looks like it came out of the scrapyard
@@SamsTrains it also came with three lms corridor coaches
@@SamsTrains oh fun fact in the railway series gordon actully retires from the express i think but i could be wrong
I swear every person who models has the same set of metal screwdrivers 😂
haha I know.... how can that be?! ;D
Happy new year,
Sam :)
Happy new year
I've got CRUMLIN HALL
Oh right! Very nice- is that a tri-ang/hornby one too? :D
All the best,
Sam :)