Who are the Alchemists? | Lies of P
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- čas přidán 22. 06. 2024
- The timeline of the mysterious Alchemists that drove Krat into ruin... #liesofp #lore
Chapters:
00:00 Alchemists' search
00:30 The one-winged angel
01:53 The Arm of God
02:43 Discovery of Ergo
03:14 Settlement in Krat
04:30 Arche Abbey
07:15 Rose Estate Incident
08:22 Simon Manus
10:27 The next evolution - Hry
I love how lies of p puts you at the center of the major story events, rather than centuries later. I love fromsofts environmental storytelling, but it was nice to actively see things happen.
Completely agree! It was a nice change of pace being for sure.
The queen of good lore is back
Oh heck yeah! 🫶
A bit of a crazy theory but what if Paracelsus was Simon's father? There are hints that Paracelsus was a legend or a god to the Alchemists and then whenever Simon speaks about his father he speaks about him being a god so by that logic it is possible that Paracelsus who consider the entirety of Krat just an experiment would also experiment on his 'son' and then when the result didn't satisfy him he would discard the kid.
Oh my gosh I LOVE this theory! Would bring an extra layer to how messed up Paracelsus is.
The Vaatividya of Lies of P 👍, keep up the good work!
Thank you!! 💙 If only I could pull in Vaati level views, that’s the dream! 😆
Haha slow and steady and u'll get there 👍🏻!
I was hoping for this, thank you!
Now that I have gotten the Plat I really want to hear as much lore as I can, it’s a great story!
Thank you for watching! 💙
This is a great recap after playing the game!
Thinking about it now It's interesting that the arm of God looks the same as a human, looking forward to what you have to say on it.
Thank you so much! 💙
Many people have said that God made us in our own image. It seems that Lies of P uses a very similar God if not the same one. Along with Simon Manus second phase transformation seems heavily based on the Italian Fresco painting “The Creation of Adam”. It’s the creation of MANus
Damn, your trilogy of Lies Of P lore was so interesting! Definitely adds even more depth to this amazing game!
Thank you so much!!
Have you heard about the gnostic connection? There's a lot of direct references like Valentinus and Pistus Sophia. I think ergo is a piece of the 'pleroma'. There's probably some Jungian stuff there too.
Oo I haven’t but that’s super interesting! Will have to look like that more!
I just finished the game and needed some lore/theory videos and wow, your videos are amazing. Your narration is just perfect and the content is soo good. I hope you keep doing this amazing videos and maybe step in some theories and the future of the game (dorothy)
Thank you so much!! 😊
I love these Lies of P deep dives! Are you planning to do anymore? I'd love to get some character spotlights on Sophia, Geppetto, Antonia, Venigni, etc!
Thank you so much!! I am (slowly) working on another big compilation of little details and mysteries about the game, so that will hopefully be ready to upload relatively soon!
@kitetales love to hear it! Lies of P was easily my game of the year last year, even in an absolutely stacked lineup for the year. (LoP was snubbed/robbed on the soundtrack category. Clearly, they didn't find any play the records!) So seeing more content about it is great! Keep it coming!
Giango being revealed at the end to be THE Paracelsus I heard of was chilling. I see why you are the lord queen!👀
I’m honored 🥰
Paracelsus is extremely significant as far as the few lore snippets you can find which is why I love the mind-blowing reveal that he was with you almost the entire time. The skittish pharmacist who was once a farmer is truly a god among men, or at least a god among his former peers in the Alchemists. The fact that this group chasing true immortality regards him as such is probably the second best case of evidence that he has somehow stopped his aging. "It wasn't for everyone." but perhaps he took the One-Winged Angel's gift, or maybe was able to alchemically create a more agreeable version through Gold Coin Fruit? However he managed it, the absolute best line of evidence that he's immortal comes at the after credits.
"I think we have a new brother. A new type of humanity, so to speak." to which the woman on the other end of his call replies "There are many forms of eternal life." Not only suggesting that Paracelsus is immortal, but that their entire secret organization has quite a few. At least three, seeing as how having a "new" brother implies that Paracelsus has a brother to begin with.
I can’t unsee Hugh Jackman as your thumbnail 😂
I can't wait for your next Lies of P video. They're the best on CZcams :) great work
Oh man, I love listening to you regale us with these background stories from the game, you do a wonderful job, I've watched all the lies of P ones so far, Ill have to watch the rest, thank you for the magnificent content
Great video, thank you for Lies of P series
please keep making lore's about all the characters, i enjoyed every lore video you uploaded so thank you for taking your time studying this game!
This channel is pure art ! New subscriber❤
keep the good content and lore❤
So glad ur uploading more on this game !!!!
So glad to have you watching!! 💙
Great summary and explanation. Thanks!
Awww man i used to watch the forest and eldin ring lore from you lol glad the algorithm brought me back since im playing this game
I stumbled across your Channel and Lore Videos upon completing Lies of P for nearly my 2nd time. I am a huge fan of Elden Ring and Lies of P and your content is AMAZING! I hope that the Lies of P videos keep coming.
Keep up the great work! 🤓
Thank you so much!! So glad to hear the nice feedback about my videos! 😊
Love love LOVE your Lore videos
Thank you so much for the amazingly kind comment!! I really appreciate that and it’s super encouraging to work on more! 🥲💙
I’m so glad someone makes these lore vids for lies of p. Your vids are so good
Thank you!! 😊
What a well put together video! You just earned a sub.
Thank you so much! 💙
Cant wait 4 the next Lies of P lore video. I discovered your channel because of this series and its amazing, keep up!
Thank you so much! 💙
This is really high quality stuff. Keep it up!
Thank you so much! 😊
Your content is superb. I am nearly finishing my NG + and I thought I understood most of the story. But here you are and telling me things I still have missed or missunderstood. Great work! A must watch for Lies of P fans.
Thank you so much for the really nice feedback! 😊
Really a pleasure, rewatched it 2 times already. Very informative and interesting, you did a good job!
Thank you so much for your sweet comment! 🥰
Your presentation and narration are so good! Looking very much forward to new videos!
Thank you so much! 💙
Lovely content - cannot get enough of Lies of P and its story and world building.
Thank you so much! And same; it’s my favorite release of this year 💙
another great video 🔥🔥
good work, keep it up!
Thank you so much! 💙
Really nice video!
Amazing Content! I'm always missing so much of the lore in these types of games, even though i play really slow and try to piece everything together myself.. Keep up the great work :)
Thank you so much! 😊
Keep up the great work!!
Thank you so much! 😊
Another great video making this game so much more interesting!! Thank you for the great story telling.
Thanks so much!
YAY! New lore video I love them all!!
Thank you so much!! 💙
For some reason CZcams didnt show me this until now. Great video!
awesome video as usual! high-quality presentation & editing, really detailed n concise. and i just loooooove your voice! so pretty & relaxing 🥰
Thank you so much!! 💙
Nicely done video! And love your voice!
Thank you! 😊
i just found these lies of p vids and im loving them!!! plz keep posting these! especially lies of p, im gonna binge these since my gf is gonna LOVE ur channel
Thank you so much!! I have more on the way! 😊
Great video!! May I suggest your next lore video be on Carlos history?
Your videos are such a great quality! I really hope you gain more subs. You're very good at this.
Thank you so much!! I’ll definitely be looking more into who Carlo was, there is a lot of story there that is too good not to unpack. I really appreciate your input and kind feedback! 💙
This was amazing! You are the vatvadiya for lies of P!
Thank you so much, best compliment ever!
Great stuff as always!! More more moe!
Thank you!! And YES! There will be more!
Thank you for your hard work :)
Thank you for watching! 💙
Awesome content!
Happy those LoP vids exist. Thank you for making them.
Thank you so much for watching!
Fantastic videos that do a fantastic game justice. Please keep it up!!! ❤❤❤
Thank you so much!! 💙
very cool video! really like the use of cinematic camera
Thank you! I tried to make it pretty 😊
I love your videos they are great and your voice is so nice to listen to
Thank you! 💙
I'm loving this!!!! Yes Please! More ❤❤❤
Thank you!! More is on the way!
Banger video!
Thank you!! 😊
I still hope you cover the workshop technicians. I always go back to your videos and Square Table Gaming when I need a lore refresher
Im new here but great video! And the lore of this game is actually surprisingly interesting, i really dig it. Definitely has abit of a Bloodborne vibe, with humanity coming into contact with some form of higher being / power / element, and the resulting aftermath that ensues across a city / society
I hope we get to learn more about Krat's history in future content - the town / city / area "Krat" as an entity itself has such a character and personality to it. I feel like they really did a good job at making this city come across as this immersive, real-feeling place, with centuries and centuries of history, culture, and all sorts of interesting lore tidbits lying within its past
This game is such a gem, i love it
So I’ve just watched all ya vids on lies of p and waiting for more
4th play through and still foggy with the lore , thank you for the amazing work 🙏🏽
Thank you so much! 😊
I am loving this series so far, and look forward to your next video. I do hope we get a whole little cottage industry around this game the same way the fromsoft games have.
Thank you so much!!
Please keep doing video game lore videos specially Soulsborne & Soulslike games. Love this channel 😊
Thank you so much! I need to do some on Bloodborne…
Nice vid
would love a video about the King of Riddles, super interesting quest line.
The quality of you thumpnails Is magnificent please never change
Thank you! Glad to hear it’s a good style I will keep them that way! 😄
God level lore channel ❤
Thank you so much!! 😊💙
As someone who hasn't played yet(I want to play Bloodborne first), I'm excited on your video about the summon. I've seen people talk about the character who can assist but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
Bon travail mon amie !
Merci beaucoup ! 😊
Your voice is beautiful. Amazing lore videos.
Thank you so much! 💙
I need a video on all the puppets! Maybe one on the unexplained and open ended stuff too to prepare people going in to the sequel while die waiting to play it.
Excellent job, keep up the good work! The only thing I might push back on here is that I’m not sure Simon Manus killed Valentinus. I think it was Arlecchino. We know he tortured an alchemist to find out where the isle was, and I think it was the alchemist of the trinity (since he was obviously tracking the rooms). That makes it Valentinus in my mind.
Wild speculation, I know, but hey.
I look forward to all these videos. Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much!! 💙 Oo that’s a good theory! I do wonder who the Alchemist he tortured was. The reasons I think Simon was responsible was because he had the motive to kidnap Sophia during the Rose Estate Incident and Arlecchino talks about Sophia trapped in the Abbey so I think he’d have to have found out about it after Valentinus was killed. There is also a line about a mutated strain of the Petrification Disease at the Charity House which made me think he was testing out his elixir there. But I do want to know much more about Arlecchino!
@@kitetales the motivation was definitely there for Simon, and your interpretation certainly seems sound. It would also flesh him out more fully as a villain (what ascendant antagonist is complete without at least one coup?) and plays toward the general themes of a desire for progress leading to ruin.
Probably a stretch but lore on how Romeo got turned into a puppet, Camilla or any expanded lore on the Legendary Stalker would be awesome...I'm a bit of a lore diver but from what I can see, those two characters backstories are vague...maybe for DLC or something...
Archbishop had an offer he couldn’t refuse! 🤌
Fugedabouit
Great work! Big question, though: you think that they built the abbey? The cuneiform writing and traces of older iconography makes me think it is far older than the castle and knight and it yet the iconography clearly depicts the tower's use to Ascend beyond humanity.
This was a HUGE question of mine too! I was convinced it existed before them, belonging to the “rock titans” that are mentioned in one of the documents. But then Arlecchino says that they built it specifically to study and use Ergo, so I was confused as there are a couple loading screens that say the Alchemists first discovered Ergo. I actually cut a big section on the Abbey because I’m putting it in another video, I might have to try and research if the Korean translation is a bit different.
Great video kite ps you heard of darkest dungeon
Hmm haven’t heard of it
A full breakdown of the main story would be good 😮
Are you related to Vaatividya? The way you both create these extensive lore vids is incredible. Sister maybe lol?
Haha yeah sister from another mother on another continent! 😆
@@kitetales stranger things happen lol, but that much distance makes ur relation a bit more farfetched. Regardless it doesnt change my respect for him and now you. Pls keep the vids coming
Im all in for Lies of P. Just passed the king of Puppets with help from the specter. Could not do it alone.
Simon's Tower reminds me of the Tower of Babel in the Bible. Human greed challenged God and was destroyed.
Excellence!
Merci ! 💙
Lies of P is very underrated game, it would be interesting if they aded option to join Puppet King Romeo and take revenge on Geppetto.
My question is this: Are you going to do one when the Sequel is here? 😁
YES!!! I can’t wait for the DLC and the sequel.
I like to think the Specter is a grown up Carlo from a different time line
If you look at that all white outfit you can see there is only one wing on its right side it's probably a refrence to the one wing angle, sorry my English is declining rn but you get the point.😂
Great video kite ps what do you think of bloodborne weapons
Hmm I’m not sure, I only ever used the Sawblade!
@@kitetaleswhat about the guns
Are you, or have you ever done a video retrospective on the meteoric rise of the soulslike genre?
I have not but I feel like I wouldn’t be as qualified as some of the other channels that are dedicated to the Souls genre. Those guys are crazy knowledgeable about it, hard to hold a candle!
My personal theory around the carcasses (because a lot of people think that they are a direct result of the petrification disease.):
In the game, there are mentions of crystalline growths on subjects given the petrification disease neutralization treatment. These crystal growths parallel the association of stone and crystals with both ergo and the petrification disease. Taking these parallels into account, I think that contact with ergo causes the petrification disease (ergo is a fragment of the one winged angel, so it wouldn’t be a stretch for ergo to exhibit the behavior of an organism), subsequently, ergo crystallizes one’s essence and continues spreading. However, being lost to an ergo hive mind is not in Simon’s best interests, so he devises the elixir. The elixir will be capable of altering the petrification disease, such that it both crystallizes the soul AND strengthens the body. I personally think that carcasses are not just the result of the alchemist’s “cure” but due to the “cure”/ elixir creating an enhanced strain of the petrification disease (funny thing: ergo is said to have “spores” reinforcing it’s organism like behavior.) this shows in the fact that even dogs, bears, and puppets (I personally wouldn’t medicate a heap of steel or a dangerous bear) grow carcass esque deformities, it is because they are actively being INFECTED by an enhanced strain of ergo spores, spores that have been enchanced within the infected by the elixir. I also think that this is why Simon is significantly more deformed than laxasia, victor, or his subordinate alchemists. It is because Simon is absorbing ergo mostly unaffected by newer variants of the elixir. In conclusion, I just think it makes more sense for the carcasses to be borne also from infection (what? Is Simon going to evolve humanity one injection at a time?) than for them to simply be borne from a medical treatment, and it makes more sense for this ”treatment” to be altering the disease itself rather than simply creating one carcass at a time. I believe that this fundamental altering of ergo (a fragment of a literal angel) is also referenced when Simon claims to transgress even god.
Carracess, are less of a “direct result” and more of a outcome of (failed) expierments
I would reaally like to know what you think about the hermit's cave. For me this is the most mysterious location of the game. Who is the Hermit? Maybe Valentinus himself? Maybe that foreign alchemist Medoro wrote about? Furthermore, is the carcass in the cave the Hermit? What's his connection to Sophia? Why are the Black Cat clothes hidden there? So many questions lol
That’s a great question given his significance to Sophia! Haven’t heard the theory it might be Valentinus, that’s a really interesting one!
Man new game +3and I thought they ment my arm 🤣🤣🤣
Giango is so great!
Do Lore vídeo on Laxasia plzzz
all my homies despise Arleccino
Paracelsus was actually a real person who practiced medicine and alchemy. So cool!!
One thing I'm still trying to wrap my head around: ergo was originally mined from the Kroud meteorite? So it's like this alien matter that turns the local inhabitants into... more of itself?
I think Kroud is a teraforming material, so it spreads and creates more of its own lifeforms
@@kitetales Makes sense when you put it that way! A slow-working but ultimately dominating organism.
Strong Alchemists!
Is that Zombie Hugh Jackman in the thumbnail?
Close!! 😆
Was the after credit scene from the true ending or the base ending? I feel like I somehow missed it..?
Yeah that’s just the standard after credits scene regardless of what ending you get, if you missed it, you should be able to view the credits in the main menu and check it out!
This would have been a great book
May I ask a question, is there records or story about walker of illusions ? This boss just randomly appeared which is weird
I think they were another experiment over trying to make more Ergo readers like Simon and Sophia.
@@kitetales oh, I get it, I thought so too but couldn’t confirm
Simon doesn’t know how evolution works.
I love the game but did anyone else notice the story was kinda like the Resident evil Stories👀
Armored core 6 is also about alchemy just search it up. lie of p and ac 6 use the same thing ( alchemy)
here a theory what if the specter is actually Carlo soul manifested through p.
Kite, do you have any idea how Carlo died? Did I miss something obvious in the game? 🤔
He died of petrifaction disease when there was the outbreak of it at the charity house
@@ollieliddell3868Ok! I remember seeing the unknown swordswoman lamenting over his body on the beach, but I don’t recall anything more specific. Thank you :)