Is Stealth Viable in Far Cry 2?
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- čas přidán 17. 10. 2020
- INFAMOUS difficulty gameplay, footage is my own. It's important to note that my analysis is based on this difficulty setting, which I forgot to mention in the video itself. One of the reasons this is important is because dart rifle ammo is far more limited on the harder difficulty levels, and fairly plentiful on the easier ones.
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It's been about 7 months since I posted this video, and in hindsight, there's a few changes/additions that I would've really liked to have made:
- I did not mention costs. The stealth build is probably the most expensive build to put together? This might be an oversimplification, but it's pretty expensive for what it gives you relative to other builds.
- It's come to my attention that the Mac 10, despite being a loud gun, essentially functions as a silent weapon. Mind = blown: czcams.com/video/HSvyonzapGs/video.html
- I failed to mention that my analysis was based on playing at Infamous difficulty. This is important for two reasons. One, dart rifle ammo is particularly scarce at this difficulty (making it hard to rely on vs a sniper rifle), and relatively abundant at lower difficulties (making the difficulty of stealth less of an issue). This in turn raises the value that I was trying to express of the silent makarov. The second reason is because, and not to sound like a snob, but I really believe playing this game on the harder difficulties is the best way to experience this game.
- I SHOULD HAVE mentioned base fights (ex. Private Property, Mokuba, etc.). Honestly, I think I glossed over this partly due to laziness, but also due to time (wanting to keep this video short, wanting to finish making this in a month). I sort of tried to cover for this by including footage of base fights, as well as pushing the fact that outpost fights make up most of the FC2 experience anyway, but I think this was rather disingenuous. Unlike outpost fights, there's no avoiding base fights. And the dynamic of stealth changes significantly in base fights vs outpost fights, which would've been important to discuss. The dart rifle's limited ammo is not enough to deal with a base compared to an outpost. Regular sniper rifles are much better suited for the task.
- I knew that FC2's creative director mentioned in Game Informer that they didn't have enough time to polish the stealth systems in this game, and in particular the AI detection system, but I failed to bring this up. Tbf, I don't exactly know how I would have talked about this topic given that I don't know the ins and outs of the AI's detection system, but it might have been worth researching or at least mentioning.
- I probably could have talked about looking at stealth in terms of the game's "meta" vs just a casual player trying it. EDIT: One thing I said in the video (during the silent makarov analysis) is that I was looking at stealth from a more experienced player's POV. The problem with this perspective is that arguably most/any build is usable in an experienced player's hand. At the end of the day, this is just AI we're fighting. So I think looking at things from the casual/inexperienced player's perspective would have been more useful or interesting.
Great video nonetheless. I personally think the silent mp5 is unnecessary. Even at infamous. An AK or FAL is very good in its place.
I was able to complete the entire Mokuba mission stealthily using nothing but a silent Makarov and camo suit. On infamous, in broad daylight.
As for the developers saying they couldn't polish the stealth mechanics, I feel they're good enough for a 2008 game. You actually need to hide in the tall bushes without moving and kill anyone that gets too close to avoid detection. Just think of the enemy AI as a real person. They should easily detect you even if you're only moving slightly. Best is to wait until they look away and then move ahead
@Imperial Enforcer So based on the comments, one thing I either should have been clearer about, or was missed in the video by some viewers is that I do recommend a regular assault rifle for the primary weapon slot. The MP5 has its share of problems like the ones I discussed, but I put it out there for anyone who wants a "pure" stealth build.
As for the AI mechanics, I've said my piece on it with other commenters here, but I can't speak too deeply on the subject given a few points, such as that they could have patched it since the time the creative director made those remarks.
Wow your dedicated do you still play??
Viable if the game itself doesn’t hinder your play style. I think they would more correct if they call it less effective than brute force. I too loved stealth in this game.
Blue Dragon From time to time. Recently I've been playing it a bit
no detection meter, no camera tagging, no minimap, no bullshit. just pure stealth skills.
Plus I played it on infamous difficulty. Some missions you have to stealth or you'd die very very quickly
@@imperialenforcer2271 that's true
Ya, i know this is the most realistic farcry game, but it is realistic to a point you find it very irritating. I played farcry 3 blood dragon (arguably the coolest farcry gamewhere rex is op af), and this game one after another, and it destroyed my brain cells. Even if we do the hardest things in fc 2,autosave isnt available and its not always that you remember to save the game, and you have to start a long way back again if you die🥲
The problem is that AI detection system seems inconsistent for me at least. Sometimes they detect you even in thick grass, and others I got surprised that the mercenary hadn't detected me when it seemed that he was looking directly to me and I was somewhat in the open field.
You can tell whether you're detected or are aware that there's something wrong by their behaviour and conversations (I know you already know it, just to point it out).
enemies have X-ray vision but you don’t, how is this skill based ? stealth melee kills alert all the guards , enemies will catch up even though you have faster vehicle etc etc the point is the game is only realistic when it wants the player dead but these realistic mechanics don’t apply to enemies
bottom line this game is shit and overrated
Gotta love the sabotage/ambush play style. Distract the enemy with a massive explosion then sneak in and pick them off as they lock down that area and try to escape the fire.
Except that's not what happens in my game at all, I throw a grenade and the entire subcontinent of Africa knows where my exact location is at
@WuzZieRaSH , it happens the same to me, it doesn't make sense. Creating some mainhem should provide you a distraction to make it easier.
Do you have the Steam version?
I have the 360 version of the game, and i learn a lot of it:
1) The stealth in this game is an art, you have to be very aware of your surrondings, the enemies positions and the movemments
2) The dart gun is OP, the suppressed makarov is trick but useful
3) Ignore the combat transition music every time you shot a guy, if you dont hear shouts of gunshots you are fine
4) The night and long range kills are your friends
5) Move slowly, take it easy (the broken respawn can make things harder), change possitions if you need to.
6) Kill the enemies very far from the others if the dont see the death or the body the dont get alerted.
7) Melee is not an option
I really like this game
I turned off the music because if that, it disstresed me and I prefer the "realistic" experience.
@@alejandrop.s.3942 yea
Same
@@alejandrop.s.3942 truth be told
It made the game more realistic
If you try to use melee then the enemies will instantly detect you since melee does not insta kill, rather it puts the enemy in an injured state. Though if you look away from an enemy and then attack and quickly look back at the enemy, it will insta kill the enemy. You will still be detected anyway even if you insta kill the enemy with melee.
Im coming from the PS3 side of far cry 2, and everything OP said is correct. I will add this : hiding into bushes works exactly as it does in far cry 3 if you have the camo unlocked and if it's during thé night. The other day, I managed to remain in a bush two meters away from a dude who was facing me. He didnt see anything.
On Legendary difficulty, stealth becomes much more viable than dragunov sniping.
The best stealth game ever made, because stealth isn't an option. It's just one of your tools, and is as reliable as all your other tools are in Far Cry 2.
it isn't even the best stealth game from ubisoft let alone all time, splinter cell would like to say hi. If that's your opinion, it's fine, but you gotta play more stealth games before making that statement and not let nostalgia blind you
Rishi V.L. Splinter cell was too linear and scripted for my tastes. The reason i prefer far cry stealth is because its a more emergent style than any other example out there. Metal gear games are great, but up until V, they tended to have only a few small stealth playground levels per entry. Thief, the original two, were excellent, and probably the silver medal for me after far cry 2.
But primarily, i think of it as the best stealth because Far cry 2 is not a stealth game. Stealth is one of the many tactics available to you, to use or not, and is as reliable as your guns are, which is to say not very. Its just a tool that exists.
And it feels natural. It is a stealth system that benefits from immersion, from pretending you are there and acting as you would act in that situation. It is a stealth that makes for better and more numerous emergent stories. All far cry 2 fans have personal stories about their first buddy that died, because the game really lends itself to that emergent play. The “broken” stealth is part of that.
Plus its wilderness stealth, i aint see much of that even these days.
We all have our own preferences. Nostalgia was not a factor in determining that far cry 2 is my favorite stealth. I been sneaking around since the days of oddworld and mgs1, and i still be sneakin around in rainworld. I dont even like shooters, i am terrible at them. It took me 300 hours to beat far cry 2 on infamous. Im coming at far cry 2 from the perspective of a stealth gamer, and it is in that context that i award it the prize.
The best thing phantom pain ever did was give you the option to turn off reflex mode, markings, and the detection indicator in the options. I have never been able to enjoy a stealth game that employs these tricks since far cry. It ruined me for “casual” stealth.
Sorry to go off on you like that. Far cry 2 is easily my favorite game ever made, i think its a masterpiece of artistic expression, i could go on for days.
@@jmlkhan5153 no problem buddy, that's your opinion so enjoy ;)
@@jmlkhan5153 Well said. Just imagine the potential in this game! A few predators and some make-your-own weapons and this game is the best ever.
@@-Tony-Gunk- I’ve played most tactical espionage games and this is actually arguable lol
This is an excellent overview of stealth builds in Far Cry 2, and I would love to add to it based off of my own experience playing on console.
The core tenants of stealth in FC2 are:
• Vegetation (bushes, tall grass, and sometimes cover)
• Stealth Camo (only works while crouched).
• Weather (rain, fog, and especially NIGHT)
• AI Behavior (explained in the following guide)
Utilizing these three things will make stealth _possible_ but it requires game knowledge and skill to make it _reliable._
*Transportation:*
When driving at night, having the headlights off can increase your ability to drive on the African super-highway without feeling like Alejandro at end of Sicario 2 after every checkpoint. Having a few extra precious seconds before the enemy notices you're driving right through their checkpoint can buy you minutes of time to escape without them giving chase like you're driving an -ice cream- food-aid truck on its last delivery. Boats are viable down many rivers and can get you access to locations quicker and safer than by road, but there are some locations where this is inverse where going down river makes the worst of those multi-car/checkpoint pile-ups look like a minor fender-bender. You can't shoot and swim and and you sure as hell can't sprint away either. To the experienced player the dune buggy or hang glider would be a welcome sight to drive or fly over wilderness, but when a stray bullet hits the glider you may find yourself pulling more flips than an olympic gymnast descending to certain death.
*Weapons:*
The Machete is NOT a stealth weapon, there are no stealth melee kills in this game. Suppressed weapons like the MP5SD, the Dart Rife, and the Silenced Makarov are going to be your obvious choices, but unless you are a pixel-hunting god the Makarov will require an entire magazine of body shots to kill an enemy. Anything less than a headshot will alert the entire destabilized country. The Dart Rifle is your #1 best friend because it kills in one shot to the anywhere, unlimited range, and the fewer missed shots flying past enemies the less chance they'll be alerted. Be careful when carrying it for long periods of time or going for a swim in the Deadly Africanized Water because it corrodes fast. The MP5SD can be problematic for close-range headshots but great for inevitably mag-dumping your target and the one malnourished guard you didn't see earlier that happened to stumble right behind you. Bursts are useful after missing a perfectly available headshot because the hit-detection combined with the dexterity of a console controller will guarantee that at least a dozen times. Sniper Rifles may be a viable choice because distance is your friend, but the enemy can also counter-snipe or take the hint and hide behind cover. They can even hop in vehicles and close the distance, giving you little time to engage, run, or regret your choices that lead up to the moment before your face becomes aquatinted with the vehicle's grill. For consoles I recommend switching your Primary to an Assault Rifle or Secondary for an IED or M79 for blowing up enemies in a pinch. Great for sabotage, the inevitable vehicle patrol, and pursuing enemies. Nothing says stealth gameplay like screwing it up and having to sanitize an entire village!
*Infiltration:*
When you trek several miles to your target like the hiking montage in _Blood Dimond_ take a moment to recon the mess you're getting yourself into. Don't look for all the useless stuff your spotting scope might identlfy, look for anyone carrying a sniper rifle or a rocket launcher (assuming they haven't seen you long before you can see them). Do yourself a favor and shoot them on sight, there is no sneaking past them. The good news is that they are mostly social outcasts and seclude themselves in such places where they _might_ not be spotted by the other enemies. Sometimes you'll grab the enemy(s) attention enough for them to investigate the area. If you are lucky, it'll lead one away to an indeterminate point where they are completely forgotten by their fellow kin, where no one will care if one suddenly dropped dead... from cardiac arrest... from your neurotoxic darts.
*Investigation:*
When you kill someone, especially if the enemy notices. ALWAYS move! doesn't matter if you see an enemy running around from 200m away, when they sense a great disturbance in the force they will run right over to the exact spot in the jungle you are standing in by channeling their inner bloodhound. Hold your breath and remember, it is only your Last-Known-Position. Whether you hear "I'll check it out" or see guy(s) suspiciously approaching you. Back away while remaining crouched and watch if they continue towards your LKP. This can be useful when sneaking past enemies because they tend to be locked in a trance like the wildebeest in your headlights (well... right before they always commit suicide running headfirst into your vehicle because this Africa is too bad of a place for even the animals to want to live in it).
*Evasion:*
When you attempt to kill someone and the enemy starts shooting at you, run... Run like you are a Kenyan Olympian before you remember you're a mercenary with malaria that passes out whenever the plot demands it. Run off in another direction and try to break line-of-sight through cover, vegetation, or just haul your infected ass far enough for them to loose you; then go right back to hiding. If you do it right enemies will run like the other Kenyan champions in the race way over on the opposite side of the jungle. You lost the element of surprise but stealth can always be recovered when broken down to _not-currently-being-shot-at._
Congrats, you have achieved Stealth of the African variety. Remember, As long as you don't find yourself fighting an entire warlord's army like its the final battle in _Tears of the Sun_ You're doing good enough!
Ngl, I had no idea that having your car headlight's off made you more stealthy
. Seems so obvious, but it never occurred to me.
"But unless you are a pixel-hunting god the Makarov will require an entire magazine of body shots to kill an enemy" - here's a little trick for doing long-range headshots with the silent Makarov, pardon the lethargic-sounding commentary: czcams.com/video/0L1bBmOnisU/video.html
Never properly tested this on PC tho. This is not something I use myself, just something I noticed you can abuse if so inclined.
@@Atestinal I also noticed you were using the aim-assist to line up with distant targets before adjusting for a headshot, that seems to be a faster technique.
Your video lead me to your second tip involving a strategy to assassinate the first faction leader: czcams.com/video/PcsfK68zcqo/video.html
If you want a decent stealth challenge I recommend trying to sneak in to Goka Falls from the North, and attempt a quiet assassination with a well-placed shot through the back window. Be careful, enemies are in high concentrations despite the vegetation, and a kill team from the opposing faction will be after you. I have yet to pull this off perfectly but I'd love to see your attempt if its a video idea you are interested in!
@@AnonEMus-cp2mn In the console video? I always have aim-assist off
@@Atestinal My mistake, at first glance of this video I thought the aiming at 3:11 was aim-assist snapping.
@@AnonEMus-cp2mn Oh that, nahhhh, I just play this game way too much. This video was all PC, and I wasn't even sure PC had aim-assist, unless you use a gamepad. Funnily enough, I did try and use a gamepad when I first tried FC2 on PC, but quickly stopped because of how jarring the aim-assist felt (afaik you can't turn off gamepad aim assist on PC). But yea, no aim-assist
To me Far Cry 2 is one of the best FPS games ever alongside Half Life 1 and UT2004..I remember when it was first released and I was amazed by the attention to details and realism..felt like a breath of fresh air when CoD was dominating the FPS genre
I was also blown away by what Far Cry 2 and other games in that timeframe managed to do for its time, and I can't say I've felt that way in awhile. The last time was maybe I got around to using ENBs in TES games. Maybe when I can actually afford a graphics card that can do RTX, I can feel that way again
Mac10, M1903, RPG and you pretty much conquered the game
I use the M1903 until I unlock the Dragunov - with the M1903 you lose your scope to load each shot, whereas the Dragunov allows you to empty your entire clip while in scope mode.
@@secularbeast1751 Dragunov is cool but it has less zoom I tested both M1903 and Dragunov. M1903 and has superior damage, range and zoom while Dragunov has better fire rate and more reliable. M1903 is more suited for distance sniping while Dragunov has more midrange punch. Of course AS50 outclasses both M1903 and Dragunov but its quite expensive.
@@bkrcovers2906 why mac 10 why not uzi isn’t it better?
@@Aditya-wg3lp Both is viable, I just like the iron sights and high fire rate of mac10. Makes headshots bit more easier.
Eh I'm a Uzi/ flamethrower/ bulldog guy. screw bushes and screw dudes in cars.
One thing I notice in this game is the shotguns have very long range.
as they should
@/k/eegan a shotgun is actually a rifle if you think about it
it makes sense why the germans were so angry at shotguns in the war
@@ManLikeEddyGermans were mad about shotguns because Americans would impale germans in the trenches on M1897 bayonets and them slam fire 12gauge into them lol. WW1 was fucking crazy bro
Except the spas 12, which has pretty short damage dropoff
nice to see people still play this gem. This game was and is so very underrated.
The stealth in far cry 2 is amazing. The way vegetation reacts to player makes me feel immersed and that silenced weapon always doesn't mean stealthy ness. I personally love this games stealth. And yeah silent makarov best weapon
seeing vegetation not reacting to the player in fc3 was the biggest dissapointment.
just walking through bushes as well as seeing sunlights ray through the trees dancing with shadows on ur rifle is the only ASMR that i approve of.
So I posted this on Reddit, and someone brought up something that made me realize I forgot to define one other parameter in the video:
What constitutes a "successful stealth attempt"?
www.reddit.com/r/farcry2/comments/jdnbi4/i_put_my_thoughts_down_on_video_on_why_stealth_in/
This is a tricky question as there are several degrees of success, but I generally thought of it as "take out everyone before they get a chance to find you (even if they're on alert)." However, if you still manage to take out a fair chunk of the enemy forces before they find you, that's arguably pretty good, or good enough. Assuming you can handle the remaining forces, at least.
@Dude Dale Ohhh, so *I believe* the last time I was active in the FC subreddit, there were rules that prevented me from posting my own videos. But It looks like they made a change that would allow me to do so now: "Do not post your videos, streams, articles if you have not contributed to a Far Cry subreddit before (discussed, commented, asked questions)."
So although the rule is a bit vague, it seems I would just have to become a regular member again, unless my previous activity counts. You can also post this video there on my behalf, which would be genuinely appreciated. But in any event, thanks for bringing that to my attention
If I don't get shot, I consider it successful, even though they find a dead body and get triggered.
Happy to learn there’s a cult following for this game even after so long, I felt like I was the only one who remembered it.
Ah, it's interesting that you didn't know. To me, its cult following was what FC2 was most known for
I am only a minute in the vid and I noticed you were 1 away from 200 subs so I had to fix that. Congratulations on 200 subs now! 😁
If you wont stealth you need to go night and wait a good moment to kill enemy, you can't use rock like in Far Cry 3
Farcy 1 classic had a rock toss which is why 2 not having it is a bit strange.
@@calelsun
tbh, the rock throw made the AI look giga braindead, throw a rock and they will have no concept of causality and run into it blindly.
it was like supernatural lure, so kinda glad fc2 didnt had it
I just ran into your channel, and I gotta say it's so nice seeing someone still caring for FC2 after 12+ years. Far Cry 2 was my first ever PC game -- I remember buying the CD/ROM from Best Buy with my dad when I was maybe 11 or 12. A year or two later I rebought it for PS3 -- and still play it to this day. Currently, I've been learning how to mod it -- been getting a ton of help from other mod creators, and I'm about 95% done with a entire game overhaul mod I've been working on. Regardles, I just wanna say I enjoy the content, and to keep on keeping on. It's nice finding people on this niche side of CZcams.
Where will you be uploading your mod when you're done, btw?
@@Atestinal It'll be on NexusMods! It's called 'Far Cry 2: Modernized' -- it's essentially a custom / overhauled version of 'Far Cry 2: Redux' that suites my overall aesthetic and gameplay preferences. It uses an older version of 'FC2: Redux' as an original baseline, and from there I overhauled the graphical settings (primarily focusing on shadows, LOD, terrain, and render distance) to a point where it's now pretty unoptimized at higher resolutions (I'm not a veteran modder -- I tailored it to my own PC setup because I was never sure if I'd release it publicly, so it might not perform well for users with older hardware). It also includes the AI upscaled textures from Boggalog's 'Enhanced Texture Pack' mod, a custom made HDR-based ReShade I made (I'd wager a lot of people will use their own, mine is pretty dark and shark), a 4GB patcher that allows 'FarCry2.exe' to use 4GB of memory instead of only 2GB (because it's a 32bit executable), new gun textures for *some* guns and elements (like water), renamed all weapons and vehicles to be more "realistic" and descriptive, changed default control settings and rearranged the keybind menu, as well as renaming a handful of menu elements to what I think looked more appealing, it includes the user's choice of main menu watermark (4 available), fixes the Jackal audio bug, unlocks the predecessor missions, turns of blinking items for immersion, enables the machete "creeping" functionality from New Dunia, improved directional audio (not super noticeable imo but worth adding), unlocked DLC machetes, lowered game sensitivity so that the that menu slider is actually useful, changed max FPS to 95 (much smoother than 60fps, and at this FPS I have noticed zero issues or bouncing NPCs), changed FOV from 75 to 85, etc.
I've gotten permission from Hunter (FC2:Redux) and Boggalog (upscaled textures) to use / modify their work, giving them due credit of course. They've been tremendously helpful; answering all my questions and helping me along the way. If you wanna see some screenshots of some of the work, you can check them out here: imgur.com/gallery/4CIfybc Unfortunately, I've tried using ShadowPlay to record gameplay to show it off, but for some reason the gameplay (and all the screenshots on Imgur) are MUCH darker than they actually appear in game. I was hoping to release this a few weeks ago, but I've been so busy with work it just keeps getting pushed back further and further. Luckily, I've been feeling really motivated this last week or two and have actually been doing some last minute tweaks, so hopefully it'll be out very soon -- next day or two at the earliest, end of the week at the latest.
TLDR;
It'll be on NexusMods pretty soon; check out screenshots here: imgur.com/gallery/4CIfybc
@@GoodKid Nice! 1 question though, I have a very shitty laptop but I can run Far Cry 2 at max settings at 50-60 fps. Can I play with this mod or will it just be unplayable?
@@boranates1320 That's a good question. Do you play at 1080p or 768 / 720p? I'm confident the ReShade will definitely make it a rough experience, because that's where most of the FPS hit comes from. The actual game might be a little rough, but you can try to turn it down from Ultra.
Personally I'd recommend downloading it and giving it a shot, then likely trying to find a different ReShade that you like that doesn't effect performance as much. Even if you just try it out and bump it down to High settings, I'd wager it would still be a better experience than Vanilla just because of the bug fixes and quality of life changes. Also, I imagine the 4GB patch might improve even vanilla FC2 a bit.
If you're interested, I have it uploaded here on Nexus: www.nexusmods.com/farcry2/mods/308
@@GoodKid I normally play at 720p for good performance, but I think I won't see the difference between 40 fps and 60 fps
Thanks for still talking about this game this many years in
Out of curiosity, what other games do you guys like? I'm very curious as to what else the FC2 fanbase is into, since it sometimes feels like we exist in our own niche universe.
If we are talking about games that I enjoy equally as much as Far Cry 2 and that I replay every once in a while: Mafia 2, Far Cry 3, Sniper Elite 3+4, GTA VC and SA
Thank you for the awesome FC2 content by the way, the fanbase has always been fairly small and not a lot of people are playing it nowadays but I still absolutely love it.
Figure I'd drop a niche(sort of) title for my fellow FC2 lovers, THUG Pro. Greatest skating game there is made by the fans...for the fans.
In terms of games that I've poured stupid hours into (other than FC2), Fallout and The Elder Scrolls series. Ages ago, this channel was also originally supposed to be an Elder Scrolls LP channel, but it never worked out
@@CanalDeMusicaMusicChannel While the videos were fun to film (which unfortunately was only a small % of the process), the short answer is that the work/time investment wasn't worth the 3-5 views it were getting, and the videos were probably not good tbh.
The longer answer is that both TES and letsplay content are both fairly saturated on YT (at the very least, LPs are), and both types of content are difficult/impossible to share with people on other websites. So if it's not of really good quality at the very least, it can be very difficult to find regular viewers.
@@CanalDeMusicaMusicChannel I'm already sort of doing that with my recent shorts, tho the Dunia mod video kept me busy from doing it more frequently
Arguably its a little better now to do them with the shorts format, since it's way more likely to receive an audience, unless shorts end up turning into a fad
I prefer to play stealth, but to me stealth doesn't necessarily mean silent, and for realism I tend to avoid the DLC Rambo weapons (shotguns and crossbow). My load out is generally Mac10, Dragunov SVD, RPG in Part 1, and Uzi, AS50/AR16, RPG in Part 2. Stealthing to me is sitting out at extreme ranges and picking off as many mercs as you can, but you'll always find a bunch of mercs hiding once you go in to secure your objective, and the Mac10 or Uzi is the fastest way to finish of survivors close up. Stealth suit is a must, as is changing positions often, as the mercs will always home in on your firing position. Silenced Makarov is perfect for clearing safe houses, other sites with a few mercs, and assassination mission targets, but it's terrible for a close up firefight with multiple mercs (when your primary slot is filled with a long range snipe rifle). For a 'go in guns blazing' approach I'll use the M79 Grenade Launcher, AK47, PKM in part 1, and M79, AR16, SAW in part 2.
I kind of like how the machete takedown isn't silent cause, in real life hitting stuff with a machete is really loud
I was just wondering about this the other day, thanks.
Saw your channel and videos and wow, I think I'm gonna be here with your love for FC2, I also think some of Stalker Anomaly would be recommended for you hehe
Ohh yea, so I'm vaguely aware of Anomaly from a YT video that came up on my Home page. I'll get to it at some point, I'm sure, just gotta work through my current backlog a bit. Playing Control and God of War right now
@@Atestinal based
Great video!
Great review! I miss that freedom that fc2 gave, in newer titles you feel like you are following a script being stealthy, also my favourite game style was doing ambushes and terror attacks suddenly
Can't believe this video hasn't blown up yet
Farcry 2 is 12 years old dude..
Feel free to share this with whoever!
@@tanjidhasanrohan2489 and youtube hasn't randomly recommended you a video 12 years old before?
@@aq-qo7cf those are 1 minute at tops lmao
Great video!
I can agree to some degree. While I try to be stealthy and it is definitely a useful tactic in this game, I never go full stealth. IMO it's best to keep your loadout balanced, i.e.
1) a long range weapon (silenced, if possible)
2) a close to mid-range weapon (silenced, if possible)
3) explosive/anti-vehicle weapon.
I mostly tend to use these 3:
1) The Dart Rifle - I usually don't bother getting into firefights while passing by the guard posts, so the dart rifle is pretty much essential - just silently take out the snipers/rocketeers (that would see you from far away) without alerting anyone else, and sneak around the guard post. Also the ammo is more than enough for taking out the snipers in an enemy base.
2) Silent MP5 - After taking out the snipers, I move into the enemy base with a silent MP5. You don't necessarily want to get loud and call more attention to yourself, so having another silenced weapon is always good. Plus unlike the silent Makarov, the MP5 can be somewhat useful if a potential firefight breaks out.
3) The M-79 grenade launcher - IMHO the best sidearm in the entire game. Much faster than a rocket launcher and doesn't take up your primary/special slot. It's pretty useful when the enemies gang up on you, but I can't stress enough how many times this weapon saved my ass from those surprising car patrols! Plus in many cases, the mission is to blow something up anyway. And this thing actually has a pretty good range - so then it's just hit and run.
My personal favorite loadout too!
I prefer to use a silence makarov, as50 and RPG (or Flamethrower XD)
Hey man, you do you. Light some people up
I finished the game once using only the silenced Makarov and IEDs. I never even carried anything else. Most fun I ever had in Far Cry 2.
Nicely done, sir
I am a newbie in FC2. I really like the stealth playstyle, I use it as a role play. I totally agree that it's far more risky and less effective than a sniper approach, but it's way funnier, you can feel the adrenaline. Besides, it's so satisfying when enemies are taken down in detail silently. My build for Act 1 is Silent Makarov + Dragunov + PKM. It will be pretty much the same for Act 2, perhaps AS 50 and SAW. The other build would be Uzi, FAL or AK and Dart Rifle. The DR is awesome, but the ammo is crippling. Well done by the developers, it'd have been OP otherwise.
Concerning the silent shotgun, I'm not sure how silent it really is, since I have been detected using it even though I had landed a perfect headshot on the victim.
I've not become yet a master using the silent Makarov, which it's the crucial point of the stealth strategy, but I've been able to infiltrate in Fort and get away with my mission killing only the snipers "loudly".
Beautiful tips there mate, can we apply the same techniques in FC1?
I also play this game from more of a decade and all I can say is that the quality of gameplay is determined by the type of loadout you use. Using assault rifles and driving vehicles guarantees for that annoying type of gameplay where enemies overtake and stop you with their own trucks in a matter of seconds and where your own assault rifle is basically useless under 50 meters while enemies pour bullets into you from far beyond that while on the move. But should you try using sniper rifles and moving exclusively on foot, it feels like a completely different game. Despite none of them are able to mount silencers (exception is the dart rifle, plagued by extreme unreliability and limited amount of spare ammo), snipers are the best stealth tools in game when utilized properly. When you play the game for as long as I did, you basically know exactly how AI is going to react in certain situations. Snipe one enemy with a headshot and the rest will disperse and seek cover. Displace and locate another one and then wound them (Dragunov leg shot works the best). Watch enemies try to recover their comrade and kill them just before they try and pick 'em up. If you had the right timing you'll cause a loop in which the entire garrison will continue trying to save that one guy, with you just picking them off one by one until the whole location/guardpost is clear. Note that this tactic is not suitable for all the in-game locations though, so you might want to equip the LPO-50 in your last slot. It may sound weird but it also works great as a stealth weapon since enemies will not react to its bolts of flame as shots fired by the player.
Anyway, I'm glad to see this game still has a dedicated audience. Kudos to you guys.
Superb advices. Which are the weapons that the AI doesn't identify as fired by the player? I tried launching grenades in order to cause mainhem and AI exactly knew my position.
@@alejandrop.s.3942 That's only the case with the LPO. Notice how there are no records for shots fired and accuracy ratings for it in the statistics section.
@@lovrom7671 Actually, what baffles me is that I get detected as soon as I throw the grenade, not after its explosion, unlike in gameplays that I've seen.
I'm pretty sure that EID isn't detected either. I've used it in Pala to kill VIPs and probably one of the few incongruities of the game, they don't care if you place a bomb right before them. I don't know how it works in other locations tho.
I shall test it out, I see the flamethrower too expensive for its potential use, although I'm missing its real power probably.
@@alejandrop.s.3942 Yeah, happens to me also when using grenades. It appears they notice them the moment they land somewhere near them. You're right about the IED. Even better than the LPO for those cellular missions inside cease-fire zones.
Personally, I found that my favorite load out is the SVD, Dart Rifle, and the Mac-10. It can be a little stealthy with the dart rifle, but I'm mostly shooting from a mile away like you said. When things get really problematic at close range I pull out my Mac and problem solved! Great video, I love the silenced Makarov too
I have actually ghosted multiple missions, very hard, very intense, but incredibly rewarding. Ghosting meaning no detection, and no kills of the enemies. Stealth in this game is about using your own intuition, skill, and patience.
Wait for one guy to walk away to take a smoke, pop him in the head, plant an IED on the other side of base, make your way to the objective and blow it up, complete the mission and slip out while chaos ensues.
Totally viable,
you´re a madman
@@littledragonstudent2409 Thats why my first playthrough lasted for 90 hours
For The Sniper Build, imagine having a Sniper, The Suppressed Makarov, And Either The Crossbow Or The Dart Gun. You’ll have Two Snipers or A Silenced Crossbow which shoots explosive bolts
What a classic, easily one of the best of the series, probably next to fc3.
far cry 2 has the best stealth in the series. been playing it since 2008 . just added toms "chill +" mod and restarting the game this week. .. far cry 2 is truly unpredictable (no death loops) I start every base with stealth and some end up in pandemonium. a true roller coaster experience.
You can't rest upon just a single stealth setup ... both the Makarov and mp5 have very less damage I recommend using dart rifle with AR16 (gives lot of damage, range, accuracy and fire rate while stuck in middle of enemies) and use the M79 grenade launcher (best for blowing them up and also the patrols roaming on the road) ... using a single gameplay style with definitely make you bored.
The video was purely about the efficacy of stealth (or more simply, does stealth work?), so I just looked at it from the circumstance of an experienced FPS/FC2 player using the most optimal loadout for that player.
But yeah, separate from the video's purpose, it's also important in regards to player experience to have flexibility, as you mention. I wouldn't advise anyone play this way 100% of the time if they didn't enjoy it like I do.
Also I don't know if you skipped over my analysis of the MP5, but I did mention its damage is really low, and I'd generally recommend a regular assault rifle, especially if you can't get headshots with the MP5.
Yeah, that's not a bad set up at all, I'll try it out. It's good to be flexible with weapons choice and the weapons crates at safe houses are a great way to have a larger selection of weapons close at hand.
I also prefer a combined weapons setup, not only for effectiveness in different situations, but also for fun. I'm playing at the moment with silent Makarov + Dragunov + PKM, so I can carry out whichever game style I want (stealth, snipe, close medium range fight).
Perhaps I will switch to a more straighforward style in Act 2 with Mortars etc, but I'm having a lot of fun for the moment.
The AR has a semi auto mode, I prefer the FAL and even the AK over it. I mean, I know that 3 well aimed bullets are more than enough for dealing with enemies, but it's good for the scarce (yet probable) situations in which you have to shoot against crowded enemies.
I love this game, I played it back in 2008, and a couple of times over the years. I had the same weapons as you silent makarov, dart rifle, and silent mp5. I love the stealth approach. This game is hard and realistic. I was in the military so I have some knowledge about how weapon functions.
Interestingly enough tho maybe not surprising, it doesn't seem to be a very popular loadout
Here's a playlist of my other FC2 vids, like "Why I love FC2," and FC2 mod showcases:
czcams.com/play/PLzbCRalfIvbwapE4sQadB3e8iHFENuqCq.html
Here's my LP of vanilla FC2 on Infamous difficulty:
czcams.com/play/PLzbCRalfIvbx8Seovjf5ntA3Vn_6yfODA.html
Playing this since it's release and it's my one of my all-time favourite.
I always play stealth, my weapons are the dart rifle, silent makarorov, and another sniper.
So I just got far cry 2 and am playing it for the first time. As a long time ArmA player, I find the stealth satisfying unlike the later far cry games. I don’t play just stealth, mostly loud tbh. But stealth is fun in this game because of the challenge. I’m on my first play through still, and I’m easily able to stealth missions. Don’t see why people complain so much tbh
Glad to hear you're liking the stealth aspect. I love stealth and I don't have a problem using it, but I think the *real* reason for the complaints was actually due to inherent balancing issues, which is a lengthy topic I unfortunately only briefly touched on. In fact, I probably should have expanded on the topic, given its relevance.
*TL;DR, stealth is slightly janky and the hardest build to play, and yet arguably the most expensive full build to make (if not, very nearly) and with the least amount of weapon options.*
The longer answer:
Clint Hocking, the creative director, mentioned in Game Informer (issue 190) that they didn't have time to polish the stealth aspects of the game, such as the AI detection system, and so he said sneaking is quite difficult. Another example he gave which I didn't touch on was how difficult it is to recover after being detected (re-sneaking isn't often an option, at least in my experience).
The economy also wasn't balanced in time. Many diamonds were "pushed" onto the camo suit, which is the most expensive thing in the game, which Clint admitted costed way too much for what it gave. Saving up for it can take awhile at the start of the game, relative to just cobbling together a much stronger build for cheap.
There's also only 3 stealth weapons in the base game (4 if you had the DLC), so you don't get much variety.
All together, the "meta" is heavily weighted towards other builds. You're paying the most for the (arguably) weakest build. So there's not much /practical/ reason to play stealth. Only if you're really good at it, or really like it, or you're in the mood to try it. To be clear, I don't necessarily have a problem with this personally, it *can* be fun playing wacky stuff too, but I do see how it's an issue, design-wise.
EDIT: It's also possible that stealth was adjusted during an update, and that the complaints were made towards the release copy.
@@Atestinal I see where you’re getting at. I tend to use stealth more situationally, and thanks to my ArmA experience, I have no problem watching an outpost for 30 irl minutes in my observation point before moving into the AO. I haven’t even bought the camo suit so I have no idea how much it actually helps or not. I find that playing the stealth in a manner of “if a single pixel is exposed within their sight line your fucked” is actually really enjoyable. I think having to actually think about the sound of the body dropping, and where his buddies are looking and having to use your eyes and ears and not having a dumb camera that highlights them makes it so satisfying. But yea, got the DLC, I find the shotgun to be so much god damn fuck for stealth. It’s like, I’m gonna kill you quietly but still send your body 5 feet into the air. But yea, balancing or not I fell in love with the stealth and I’m glad it is the way it is. It really helps nail the atmosphere of “you’re alone and everyone wants you dead” and it makes the enemy AI seem actually smart unlike later AI. Also about being detected and not being able to go back into stealth? I love it. Makes the stakes higher and adds a bit of flavor to that realism, cuz I know if I saw some shadowy figure pop a bullet in my buddies head, I’d search all night and day for that mofo until I was 100% sure he fucked off and even then I wouldn’t be on the open but in some cover at least. Makes the AI feel that much more alive and not wanting to die
You nailed it. I can observe a single outpost for minutes, yet I al not very talented for choosing the proper moment and place for launching the attack. I feel like a leopard thinking how I am going to destroy them from the tall grass.
@Ates-tinal , imo, the impossibility to re sneake is actually good and realistic. In other games, you kill several enemies, other NPCs detect you, they chase you, you manage to hide from them or disguise, and they suddenly forget that there's an assasin in the building, it's preposterous. In FC 2 they might lose you from sight, but NPCs will keep looking for you, which would be more like in real life.
I have been playing this game for many years also and at 2:25 you have a crossbow? Is that on pc only I assume? Thanks nice video
Crossbow comes from the Fortunes Pack DLC, which also comes with the silenced shotgun and double-barreled shotgun farcry.fandom.com/wiki/Fortunes_Pack_DLC
There is a little detail maybe some of you have missed is that some enemies die a lot quicker than most enemies because some would take off their vests and those vests can be seen on the tables on the outposts.
2023 and we still playing this masterpiece
true dat
real
Im a stealth player myself, and i would agree with the loadout. I did branch out in later playthroughs, adopting the G3 para, AK, and Fal for primary.
Same, that also became my loadout later on when I would stealth. Made sense to have a strong Plan B for when I got caught, and most of my stealthing was done with my other weapons anyway
I played the whole game stealthy.
If you can pull off stealth in FC2 you're a really friggin good player coz this game is nothing like the latest iterations that hold your hand the whole way, I always leaned toward the Mac 10 Golden AK and Dart Rifle when I played, pick off a few from range with the rifle run in spray and pray the stragglers lmao
Truth! I love how unforgiving and intense this game is. Played it at launch, loved it ever since.
@@danielhathaway1498 I'm gonna go ahead and admit I started another campaign like a day after seeing this video lol, the engine revving off enemies still scares the pants off me haha
One question, does AI hear you when you move by the vegetation? It seems that sometimes when I move, even crouched down, they get aware of my presence even though they're not looking to me.
2 years late, but the reason why is you're moving too quickly. Slower movement will allow your footsteps to be more muffled. Basically, find good routes in outposts that allow you to move quickly without being detected, and find out which areas require slower movement.
Thanks!!!
Thanks too!!!
The only time stealth is possible is when you are sent to kill greaves at sepoko. Other times are difficult but still possible. The thing that pisses me off is that the enemy ai moves their head fast sometimes
I feel the exact same way about the silent makarov. Best there is! FC2 is still one of the greatest and most immersive games out there. Dart Rifle reliability upgrade is mandatory
Yet It only gains 1 bullet (dart) with the ammo upgrade. It's well balanced, since Dart Rifle would be OP otherwise, but hurts.
This is the best Far Cry game by a longshot.
you're goddamn right
The best stealth loadout I used was :
Silent Makarov
Dart rifle
AK-47 (for when I get detected)
My usual stealth loadout coincidently, tho I use to use the MP5 a ton
IED play through is fun, sneak in, mine the entire place, sneak out, boom, and then clean up
I use to not clean my guns just so It can jam in tense moments making it even more tense
I like the idea of that, not replacing guns for new copies for as long as possible. I did something vaguely similar where I tried to drive the same car for as long as possible.
I did a pistols only challenge (on infamy) and I can confirm that the silent makarov 6P9 is the best weapon in the game.
Nice. Relatedly, I've been thinking about doing a "rusty pistols only" ironman run
What do you guys think about FC3 btw? I didn't like it the first time I played it, but I've been thinking about giving it a second chance on PC (originally played it on XB360) while it's on sale
tbh, I really didn't like how to story and the gameplay was so different. And after all your friends were gone, it started to get really boring for me. I may be wrong tho, I played this game a long time ago.
Fc3 is the best farcry game
For me, I had a hate/love relationship with this game. First, your character is a tourist/prisoner on a island where he knows nothing but suddenly you have power and you are proficient with firearms... That didn't suit for me at first. But then I put myself in character and remembered that Vaas killed my brother. So I was working on my revenge. After Vaas, I had a hard time to get back in the story because Hoyt was not a personal enemy to me and he was just another bad crime lord.
@@SamSprole yes. Other games following it like 4 5 newdawn and even 6 are farcry 3 ripoffs.
Wish you could Purchase silencers for each gun for a set amount of diamonds. The AR16(I believe it’s the one with the Reflex Sight) is my personal favourite weapon, pay like 20-30 or somewhere in between for a permanent silencer, and when you have it on maybe reduce the damage or increase the jamming chance. That way I could use the Silenced Makarov with the Dart Gun and A Silenced AR16
I'd use a different metric for viability: Is it fun?
I had this moment in an early mission in Shwasana on Infamous where you either have to retrieve an item or kill a certain NPC (can't remember).
You know that mission, wide open water, lots of snipers on the buildings, about 20-30 goons with boats about and standing guns about. It was night, which I'm also sure you're aware is a plus. I'm like you; first thing to buy is the Silenced Makarov followed by the camo suit. However I put restrictions on myself: No Dart rifle, not allowed to re-fill ammo and health from safe houses or weapons shops.
So in this mission I spent a good 10 mins scoping the place out with the monocular and found the snipers and some men that I thought gave me an opening and swam underneath the building when they were on the other side. I somehow managed to sneak past individual guards on the decking (the mission's item was inside the largest building on the second floor, the balcony of which contains a couple of snipers), into the building, complete the objective. Kill a guard inside the building on my way out, jump from the balcony into the water and stole a truck on the other side. No alerts.
Still my favourite gameplay moment in all my time.
Oh and not allowed to buy Sniper Rifles
At the end of the day, it's up to you how you will define the term. But as much as I don't like to get semantic, from what I've seen of community discourse I prefer to keep viability and fun as two distinct things.
To use the yugioh card game community as one example, some people get offended when you call a deck they happen to like "not viable/competitive/good" and defend it by saying "well, I think the deck is fun." Which is a perfectly fine reason to use a deck, I do the same, but that perspective prevents any room for discussions of critical and practical analysis of the deck. Those discussions I think are important for a number of reasons, aside from just being fun to have.
Boiling things down to whether things are fun or unfun in terms of viability gets kind of weird/sticky because there's a case to be made that every method is fun to somebody, and then there's no real need for videos like these.
@@Atestinal
I get your POV but I opine that it's definitonally wrong.
Where there is no competitive arena (or: no PvP 'ladder' or culture of competition with others) I have the opinion that the *only* measure of viability is fun. Otherwise what are you playing the videogame for? If it doesn't work then it's not fun, really (though it may be funny) and if it is too viable then it isn't that fun, either (though it may be satisfying).
Where it is fun is right in the optimal zone of being just difficult enough to truly test you yet viable enough to actually create progress.
So we agree, I just define fun as further upstream from.viability nay, viability is defined in terms fun, they are not seperate things, to me at least.
@@wazzpqazzza I think there's definitely a point to be made about lack of a competitive aspect. Someone a long while ago left a comment (I think they deleted it tho) about how it doesn't really matter because it's all just Ubisoft ai, and I replied to them that I do agree to some extent. I address this more in-depth in my pinned comment.
my standard stealth build is 1 dart rife 2 silent mp3 3 uzi (for post detection pandemonium)
We need a mod that makes weapons more durable and adds medicine merchants on the roads and shows you how much medicine you have
I love this game so much, this and 3 are my favorite open world games
I think the best way to play this game is to be Creative, mix up your playstyle and try out some new loadouts.
Amazing game, playing it for hours when having cancer treatment. You could be stealthy to a point. No seeing through walls or a busy hud.
id have to disagree on the mp5 being better than silenced shotgun. Mp5 has accuracy (and damage) issues. Because of that, they essentially have the same effective range, close to medium distance. Shotgun can easily 2 shot down from med distance with body shots, might even get lucky and hit their head. Mp5 body shots do basically nothing.
The camo suit upgrade turns every single enemy blind when you crouch for some reason
I heard one guy say it's a waste of diamonds, but I feel like stealth is noticably different when you have it
@@Atestinal Just stay in the grass and you'll be fine. Doesn't matter what height as well for some reason. Wish that someone would make a mod that actually makes the AI have general logic for stealth
I’m playing Far Cry 2 with Makarov Silent pistol and SMG MP5 Silent plus Camo suit💯
It feels like John Wick in Far Cry 2‼️
I will also admit to pretending to be John Wick when I play FC2
Been using the silenced MP5
Yeah, sniper is more op than a straight stealth build, IMO. The loadouts I work to get are either:
Dart Rifle - (any) assult rifle - M79 grenade launcher or:
A50 - Uzi - Karl Gustav.
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The M79 & the Karl G useful in keeping the AI from parking their vehicles directly on your spleen.
I usually use dart rifle, FAL, Craftsman shotgun and machete...my favourite loadout
i use a gernade to distract the guards
Underrated comment
Snipe is life, AS50 Mac 10 and either Carl Gustav or the Mortar.
this is the best Far cry game
I use silent makarov, Dart rifle and MGL for omma boom when stealth fails
I've always found stealth viable, but never as a solution. That's why I love FC2 so much. It's the the most realistic game you've ever played but the groundedness of it is what makes its stealth interesting.
There's no detection meters, so not only does it feel less videogamey by merit of not having a huge meter magically telling you whether enemies see you or not, but it also makes stealth more of a tool than a playstyle.
You can stealth most areas of you're skilled enough, sure. However, the average player it's likely going to be a tool to soften up enemy defences before the enemies notice and start searching. I personally love this because I thought stealth was way too strong in the later FC games.
Stealth was the optimal way to play in 3 and on because as long as you stay undetected - which wasn't hard at all, just had to have patience - you didn't have to participate in hard fights. Sure, you have the option to ignore stealth in those games, but for me, I end up gravitating towards optimal playstyles because... Why wouldn't you?
If a game puts a double barreled shotgun with a slow reload speed or hands me a bottomless mag minigun, which one would you take?
Balance and viability are the spice to videogames and I think FC2 offered plenty of that. Stealth isn't the optimal way to play, it's either a tool to help soften up a larger fight that will inevitably break out, or with enough skill, an entire playstyle.
That was my exact issue with Far Cry 3. If you didn't commit to stealth, the game would punish you by throwing an onslaught of enemies at you, and the stealth system doesn't feel very deep. Stealth is strong and easy and the game encourages you to primarily use stealth. Far Cry 2 is a very flawed game, but I enjoyed its approach to combat. You're not railroaded into a particular playstyle. Instead, the game allows you to experiment. Really wish Ubisoft improved upon Far Cry 2's concept. 2 is a fun game but could have been greatly expanded upon.
I use the dart rifle for stealth... I don't need to clear missions on complete stealth... I just kill enough enemies with the dart rifle to make sure that I don't get heavily outnumbered and then I go loud with an assault rifle and a shotgun....you can't expect to have complete all missions on stealth because that's not realistically possible
Yeah no debate the silenced Makarov simply is the best weapon in the game.
The weapon system in this game really irked me. I mean the weapon slots. I wanted to do a silent sabotage raid and destroy some equipment which was my objective. Now I obviously wanted to bring silenced makarov, but I also wanted to bring ied so I could plant the explosives in silence, get out and once I have enough distance blow the objective up and leave everyone wondering what just happened. Sucks however that makarov and ied share same slot and mp5 is unreliable when it comes to headshots.
But overall this game rocks and the stealth is a lot of fun. The weapons have a nice feel to them and the sounds just really help to sell the game. Headshotting a dude and hearing the brass hit wooden floor and roll around never gets old.
Newer far cry games made stealth more approachable but also too “mechanic” with time to detect and marking enemies. But I still love the newer games as well but far cry 2 is maybe my favorite because it’s so grounded.
That's a really interesting point about how you can't use the IED and silent pistol together.
I personally really like the weapon loadout restrictions in this game, but those two weapons do feel like they would make a cool pairing, at least conceptually. I think there's a mod or two that creates an extra slot just for the IED or flare gun, but perhaps a missed opportunity by the original devs there.
Please read my more detailed write-up here!
atestinal.wordpress.com/2020/10/18/is-stealth-in-far-cry-2-not-viable/
Also here's some of my other FC2 videos:
"Why I Love Far Cry 2" - czcams.com/video/cQJnK2FJ3ww/video.html
""Realistic ReShade Mod" - czcams.com/video/1kgq4ypPj1Q/video.html
My FC2 letsplay on INFAMOUS - czcams.com/video/wedd2HFo4hg/video.html
You didn't mention aim with optics (any sniper) -> switch to silent_makarov -> shot -> hit the same pixel. Don't matter distance.
Being a person, who's PDW is The PM and has experience target shooting real 9x18, love those Ubisoft's idealisation of soviet weaponry.
Oddly enough, while I did make a video on this trick some years ago, for whatever reason I didn't bring it up in this analysis. czcams.com/video/0L1bBmOnisU/video.htmlsi=iKfPOIoaHoCKhJRE
I don't recall why, but it was probably out of some concern for viewers that might argue the legitimacy of an approach that uses a trick, and didn't want to bother with that discussion. In hindsight tho, I don't think I'd have cared now if there was disagreement about it back then. Or I could have just presented it as a fun fact.
I've done many pure stealth missions in FC2 with no kills. sneak in (grab the documents/fusel lodge/assassinate target) sneak out. mission accomplished. and some times once detected it would turn into WW3 .. so unpredictable and fun. you can never replay the same mission the same way. always unpredictable.
I have experienced that the knife in this game is ridiculously not viable, considering it to be a stealth weapon. I should be able to slit the enemy's throat , instead it makes him scream at the top of his voice and alert everyone. What are you thoughts on how we can make use of a knife in this game ?
Nah, the machete basically exists to break down wooden boards that guard diamonds. There are mods that make it a stealth weapon, but in unmodded FC2, it's not good for almost any combat situation
exactly how it should be imo. Attacking someone with a bladed weapon isnt exactly quiet, and machetes arent made for slashing or stabbing, they made for chopping brush.
wait omg your voice is like you have a 100k subs i thought i was watching someone popular coz of your voice then i realized your logo its you that replied to me omg
Pfffft, thanks dude, one day i'll get 100K subs
np man...also you will get a million soon!
i use a weird loadout
1 AS50
2 Eagle .50
3 Carl G
I tried stealth in this far cry but I ended up using the m249 50cal and a thumper
I think stealth in FC1 and FC2 are somewhat flawed in a way. In Far Cry 1 the stealth was really developed, but when I played it the stealth didn’t matter as the enemies spotted me in the blink of an eye (on normal difficulty by the way). And I’m not new to stealth games, they are my favorite type of game. So anyways, in Far Cry 1 the enemies always find out where I am and stealth isn’t really an option in the first place unless you have a silenced weapon, such as the MP5. The only other way to use stealth with an unsilenced weapon is you must be really far, as they cannot spot where the sound came from at a far distance. Another small issue I have with the game, the game teaches you to throw a rock with the ‘g’ key to distract enemies. But, in gameplay when you do this to throw a grenade, they instantly spot your location and you either have to fight or try to hide again. In Far Cry 2 on the other hand, it seems like the problem is the opposite. In Far Cry 2, the stealth seems to work great except I feel that it’s underdeveloped. In Far Cry 2 you can use the environment more in your favor for stealth. For example, my main strategy of stealth is to create a brush fire and while the enemies are distracted sneak up behind them. If you try the grenade trick in Far Cry 2 it pretty much works most of the time. This is really handy to throw a molotov cocktail and create fires. One thing I wish they did bring back in FC2 is the ability to go prone. This feature brought much more strategy into Far Cry 1, as you had to go prone and change your gun fire mode (forgive me, I do not know much about guns) in order to get the smallest crosshair possible and be as accurate as possible. This isn’t possible in Far Cry 2 as the crosshair is removed, which I thing is good in some ways and bad in others. The removal of the crosshair in FC2 and a few other design changes makes the game more immersive in my opinion.
In FC2, you can enable crosshairs in the Options menu for difficulties below Infamous mode. Granted, this video was intended to look at stealth while in Infamous mode.
But I imagine what you're referring to is the replacing of the crosshair zoom-in of FC1 with the iron sights of FC2?
@@Atestinal I didn’t know that, also yes that’s what I mean. Also I think I got some information wrong about the rock throwing in Far Cry 1. It has been a while since I played it so I should’ve played it a little before commenting that. I’ve never played FC2 on Infamous mode either.
After doing some more research apparently the AI in Far Cry 1 is completely broken. A ton of other people had the exact same issue as I did. If you google it you’ll find countless forums of people saying the same thing.
Well an MP5 is a blowback weapon. You’re going to have a lurch and then firing.
Good video specially for me because I'm a noob XD, I'm still using the M1903 Sniper Rifle XD
I dont like the first Makarov because of its tiny iron sights that's why I didn't try the silent one :p
The M1903 rifle is THE weapon of the game.
Да, все так. Помню полностью по стелсу все проходил, перезагружался когда обнаруживали
Yay I’m not the only one playing FC2 nowdays 😁 all tho it’s 2021 now but still
I have a bunch of 2021 FC2 videos too !
@@Atestinal cool🙂
whats the song name?
I think I used "A Good Day on the African Plains" czcams.com/video/ogoUB-CXZzg/video.htmlsi=NnaitnfgyOQ6O0y6
I like FC2 a lot. Problem with stealth in this game - enemys can see from through solid objects. I was under the bridge. Car roll on bridge. Drive spot me through car floor and through the bridge. Other weird situation - I was behind metal fence. And enemy spot me. What I try to say - stealth in FC2 inconsistant. But way more compeling than FC3 imo
They can only see you through walls they can shoot through, which imo makes sense. Tin, wood, bushes, etc.
I use Deagle, G3, and RPG
Nice, not a fan of the later assault rifles?
Stealth killin' without hud is the best you can get. Change my mind
I never understood the notion of stealth in a game.
New video out: Comparing Far Cry 2 and Metro Exodus: czcams.com/video/I9E6x-oFLK0/video.html
not sure how good that loadout is, tbh. My loadout was slient makarov, as50 or dragunov(dragunov early game) and pkm. This loadout was working great
Did you make it to the end of the video where I talk about the sniper build?
@@Atestinal i did, i was just saying that this loadout i said is good at close combat, stealth and with the usage of a sniper, very deadly.
and i wrote w instead of v in dragunov :(
The best build is MGL-140 Dart Rifle.
10/10
I don't like that each time you reload the pistol on a half full mag he pulls the slide back, when a round certainly is chambered, if this were any similar to real guns he'd drop a round every time he reloads, the fist 4 minutes were full of this