MAKE ANY SPEAKER WIRELESS! - XVIVE U3 REVIEW
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- čas přidán 20. 12. 2022
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We recently tested out the XVIVE U3 Wireless microphone system that also works with speakers. With its impressive low latency of less than 5ms and a decent range of up to 90ft this is definitely something to consider for event DJs playing medium-sized events. The products worked flawlessly, with one slight design issue we have highlighted in the review.
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They run on 2.4Ghz, thats the major issue. So if you have a party and say 50 people. So potentially 50 mobile phones in the same area all with 2.4Ghz Bluetooth turned on. Meaning no RF bandwith left for these devices. So they will drop out or the sound will break up. For DJ use you have to use Wireless devices with Licensed band kit. DJ Rachel has proved this in many in her videos.
Good comment.
Someone's smart
With 5 other channels you shouldn't have a problem finding a more reliable signal. I've used them at a school dance with well over 250 people and didn't have an issue (I changed the channel of course)....
Ive used this product for several months now and never had an issue. using this for a microphone in a club packed with nearly 1000 people. you can even see videos on my social media using the microphone right in front of hundreds of people.
i'll just stick with cables really
Been looking for this since ages!
I agree this is a great product. I've been running karaoke gigs for almost twenty years. One of the things I've always struggled with is what to do about microphones. They need to be wireless. They need to have great response for singing. However, they will get abused dropped, and just mishandled. So, instead of investing in a quality Shure or Sennheiser, I always went with lesser quality and low price point 4-mic system. With dismal response and quality, I was ok with the sell-out for acceptable losses in equipment.
This Xvive product is a game changer. I bought one and coupled it with my old trusty and rugged SM58. Great sound, with a great durable mic and less worry about catastrophic damage.
Excellent video. Appreciate the thorough details. I would love to hear you speak through the mic and then compare how the latency arrives to the ear. Of course 5ms seems next to nothing. Thanks again!
I'm glad that this exists 😌 now I'm waiting for this to go mainstream so the prices get more affordable, thanks for the news 🙏 👍, I don't throw my speakers than, they cost 2300 $ in 1993 they are from a aiwa combo cd & casete player but i only use it for external audio playback (auxiliar mode) ,made in Japan with 75 w power/ speaker 🔊 😉
You have my thumbs up and thanks for this bit of information
I have 2 pair of these, for gigs I use 1 transmitter and 2 receivers. Haven’t had any problems
There are a few let downs on those.
- Micro USB instead of USB-C
- Too thick to plug 2 into your player, as you also mentioned
- reach only 25m, as I need a lot more when playing at som wedding and the reception outside is like 80 meters far away from my spot with walls inbetween. Havent found any solution yet for that.
- The switch can get toggled by accident inside of your bag and drain the battery, so you arrive at your gig and batteries are zero. That actually happened three times already...
I use power banks with my Bleutooth devices
@@soostdijk me too. But it's not very convenient...
This is super super helpful
For better line of site the xlr cable works really well. Used without for awhile and for the record better distance and drop out potential avoided with a shorter xlr cable. Had mine almost 3 years. Recommend!
I use them as well but tend to provide power at both ends since the speaker would require power anyway. With regards to using a XLR cable from the mixer or controller, I would normally get the unit up high on a mic stand or lighting stand for best wireless practice so no need for both units to fit into the back of the controller.
Good point. I was going to chime in moaning about the fit but yes. 2.4 GHz benefits from proper placement.
But as others commented, I'd use it at home or at practise but not at a venue.
Very Good review with full details thanks for making such excellent informative usefull Video.
I use them often. They work pretty great. I keep them in my dj backpack to make my life easier. Sometimes I use these instead of running a XLR. They haven't let me down yet. I've done 5 hours and the battery light was still green.
Does it comes with temo sets so you can go stereo?
Can you charge them and use them at the same time?
You could use a Y XLR connector to connect stereo to one transmitter.
It could be a game changer for most people using the old cable system. But they need to also improve on the battery life aswell. 5 hours won’t be enough for a gig. Unless you plug in two power banks to each.
ive used this for about 8 hours
it would be good to use a similar design to wireless mics for the transmitter then have two simple receivers for the speakers. But it's clear this product was intended to be used the opposite way around for mic/instruments as an input device.
Guitar Center carries the separate components if you want to purchase another receiver. I have those small lipstick size USB chargers to extend battery life if need be.
They can be charged via micro USB it seems, so you could theoretically strap a cheap power bank to each adapter or pair and get a lot of playtime from them. This might actually make sense for some outdoor events where they must reduce the amount of cables or the cable setup time as much as possible.
But can you use a battery pack with them,he didn't mention it.
I was going to ask this. Can they operate and charge at the same time? Not all devices can. But if they can then you can velcro a battery pack to the speaker.
Or just plug them into power then you won’t need a power bank LOL
I am a DJ and a guitarist and have a similar product from them for in ear monitors. I have accidentally had the receiver get knocked on and had the battery die before. I used an anker power bank in my pocket and used it simultaneously with no issues.
That being said I wouldn’t be surprised if these start to gain popularity that you start seeing powered speakers with USB ports on them.
@@heyjvictor it makes so much sense! Running long cables at gigs is time consuming. Anything to speed up set up and break down is cool!
Can you charge while they are plug in??
Can you not charge them and use them at the same time. Because running an extension cord to the speaker (which you will have to do anyway) is still easier then XLR?
Do they work while charging?so that they could work longer than five hours.
Just got (2) pairs of these last month!
@PluggedInPlayer Good for making mics wireless. Hadn't thought about or tried making speakers wireless but will try that soon.
You could use an xlr splitter, i do for my monitors and pas, so i have other slots open for mics n such.
i use a similar product called "U3 Microphone Wireless transmission system" that is really cheap and does exactly what these ones do but at only $55 AU a set TX + RX cheap is not always good but they work well all function you also could power them on charge as the both the mixer and powered speaker usually has a convenient electrical source to run it. you just need to have no audio cables running across the floor.
2.4ghz channels are available worldwide
Mic/Line mode is available
3 ms delay
Sampling rate 24 - bit / 48 kbpsaudic
Sound dynamic is110dB
The signal to noise ratio of 110 db
Use a maximum of 20 channels
10 hours battery life
Work up to 30 Metres =100ft distance but again less interference when a clear line of site compared to the steel and concrete structures you work in in hotel function centres and night clubs. (im english and centre is how it is spelt by the people that invented the language)
Thanks for doing the review. Can I ask if you know if there are any cheaper alternatives to this one? Thanks.
Alto Professional Stealth 1 - Mono UHF XLR Wireless Audio System, Transmitter and Receiver for Powered Speakers, Mixers and Dynamic Microphones.
I find it interesting how all the reviews I’ve seen about these wireless dongles every reviewer is connecting them to DJ gear. I did the exact opposite you can just plug one dongle into the xlr mix out on your wired speaker/active and the other dongle to your remote speakers xlr input lol…works exactly the same and you free up both your master outputs on your DJ Controller/mixer. 🎯
Side note. I have the Sennheiser wireless xlr dongles and they have worked wonders for me and countless gigs esp weddings.
Thanks. Exactly what I was looking for.
What about other connections other than xlr ?
Can you plug the charge cable in and still use them?
That would negate the battery life issue.
Although I'm thinking the noise from a phone charger or wall wart would possibly leak through the audio
Does it matter what voltage the monitor or speaker takes for this to work?
Excellent
it looks promising. maybe some tweaks to the design however, a great idea.
I plug them directly to the mix out on my main speakers one left and one right.
And what about the wireless lag?
Do these work with wireless speakers and are there any better ones? Thanks
It's good but what about changing the batteries when it gets weak? Can it be changed?
Looking to purchase this system just wished it had USB-C for charging
Can you charge them and use them at the same time so you’re not limited by the 5 hour battery time?
Yes, I have those small lipstick size USB chargers to extend battery life if need be.
Can you plug transmitter into a speaker and reciever into another speaker for long run. This would be nice as a DJ for speaker placement that cables could be in the way.
Kind of daisy chaining. That would work I guess.
What is the sound quality like when used on stereo/hi-fi music system?
Can you use 3, 4 or 5 of these together?
Can they charge while in use?
Seems like a neat product and could be pretty useful, but def needs a lot of refinement. the size is too big as mentioned, short battery life, no usb-c, no 5ghz. Also, not sure if this is a real concern or not, but id be worried about accidentally knocking the channel button or turning it on by mistake and killing the battery since i don't see a dedicated on/off switch. Maybe you could replace the battery with something of a larger capacity?
Should try using and external charger like for a cellphone to extend the battery life if needed.
Usb power bank is all that’s needed or powerstrip w/usb plugin
How can you tell they are fully charged? There's no LED or battery level indicator.
They work while charging. In case anyone wants to know
Is there anything for old style stereo receivers that run a wire to speakers to make that cordless
Could you not charge whilst using?
I have them. They cut out badly unless you have them pointed directly at each other.
I looked thought the comments and I didn't see anyone ask or comment, Can you leave these plugged to power while you're using them?
This is for powered speakers ! What if you have a Amp and you don't want to run cables ?
The stealth, system is also good
Hi how would this work with an external mixer? I have a mackie 10 channel
Is there a delay.?
Hi, Does the wireless system support lossless audio? All my audio files are wav. playing through the Pioneer XDJ RX3. I know Bluetooth does not support lossless audio, does this 2.4ghz wireless system support it? Thanks guys
What about regular wired speakers
Can the life be extended by providing usb power to them while in use?
Yes
Couple questions. Why no 5G band? Why no USB-C? 5 hour battery life? Can’t plug them in side by side? This doesn’t sound too good. If I need to connect my iPhone to a speaker wirelessly can I connect to the receiver unit?
If they rotated the plug 90deg they might fit next to each other
Do they work while charging the units to workaround the battery life?
Yes
Just add a couple of 1 foot XLR’s to the back of the mixer or use an aux out on a separate mixer
does it als work with passive speakes
Is it amplifier 500 watts compatible
It's a great product idea, but major drawback for the battery life and for the design. The idea should be to be make things simplified, but they only get more complicated with having to have additional cables, chargers and so on.
It’s really only an option for temporary setups. But for those, you might show up and only need electricity. A great option if legality is an issue.
They need to make then smaller and allow them to be powered whilst in use like via a battery power bank
It looks like xvive is giving all the YT djs to endorse their product
Yea, no mention of the 2.4GHz frequency. Depending on your area there could be a lot of devices running up there (a hotel for example) so I may be wrong but I sense quite a risk of interference...
What frequency range is best for wireless mics?
Failed to say whether or not they can work while charging. Also, you’d want to use patch xlr cables anyway to position them better for connectivity. I’m not even sure why he even thinks that’s inconvenient or a possible deal breaker that they can’t go directly in next to each other.
weve had professional rf for audio transmission for decades, certainly as far back as the 1980's.
Can your u make sonos wireless too?
1. Why not have a powered version where there's power on both ends?
2. Why use Bluetooth? Why no radio from a transmitter like Wireless Microphones?
Genuinely asking
Yeah the cameo LNTG edit of Ain't Nobody
How to do the opposite - Convert old weak battery bluetooth speaker into a wired speaker?
What I’m interested is how to get my mixer to work with my Sonos system
This has stumped me for ages, I've tried all sorts but I just can't escape the delay..
Shame cos the sonos sound is amazing
So you connected to a Soundboks. The thing about Soundboks is that you only have to connect to one speaker and the other speaker (up to 4) con be slaves to the primary speaker so technically you only need one transmitter and one receiver with that set up?
Can you charge it and use it at the same time?
Yes you can!
I was planning on using 4 sets of Xvive U3's on my gig last night. I had problems with a lot of drop outs and some loud pops through the speakers. 2 microphones and 2 powered speakers. My question is this. I had the 2 mics on channel 1, and the 2 speakers on channel 2. Should I have had each of the four units on separate channels??? Just a word, I have the Allen and Heath ZED 60 14FX board, both of the transmitters fit snuggly on the board with no need for XLR cable. Any advice would be appreciated.
I tried a similar setup with 3 SM58 mic’s, 2 Yorkville EXMMOBILE powered speakers, and a Yorkville PGM8 passive mixer. I used 5 pairs of U3, each set to its own channel.
I had very loud pops even when I replaced the 3 U3 for mic’s with cables.
I also got interference on the U3 mic’s which was indicated by their flickering green light.
Impressive idea when it works but terrible loud pops made this unusable in a quiet professional setting.
Also, there is one sentence in the manual which is terribly worded so it’s unclear if 2 transmitters should be able to transmit on the same channel, but my tests showed that this is not possible, (except when you alternate turning one on and the other off, which might seem useless at first, but I think the last one that gets turned on takes over the channel - which might be useful in some edge cases). However, multiple receivers do work on the same channel listening to only one transmitter, so this would be great if you wanted multiple speakers on the left channel and multiple speakers on the right channel
You cant have two transmitting devices on one channel and expect the receiver to receive reliably. One device per channel.
cant it work wile charging ? 🤔
With the denon prime systems you can switch it mono. Just need one. Works fine.
Ollie & Jerry beat. Song is from the 80s movie Breakin' RIP Shabazz
Invention de fou !!
Review these. "Alto Professional Stealth 1 - Mono UHF XLR Wireless Audio System, Transmitter and Receiver for Powered Speakers, Mixers and Dynamic Microphones."
They make right angled XLR adapters that would solve your problem.
Can anyone help me? I wanna try something different. I have the Mixstream Pro Go (it can run on battery only) so I wanna walk around the bar at my next gig while mixing but I need both speakers to receive music from the transmitter on my controller but it only comes with 1 receiver. Suggestions welcome! Thanks in advance!
I get an occasional pop feedback while using these. Not a great noise when the speakers are turned up. Anyone else?
I think it's a great product but some more research and development needed to for the dj platforms.
This explains how Dom Whiting does it
Major oversight on the design... if only they threw in a few short xlr's ...
$10 fix
Nothing better than using an XLR cable for 20 euros that goes to the other end of the room with no cuts! It costs 200 euros for 1 reciever, 2 recievers costs 400 ! Hell nah, i wouldnt even try to use it if it would be 10 euros for bothe recievers
Suppose if I wanted to extend the range further, say, a speaker 180' from my board. If I ran a 100' XLR cable out of the way and then used this to cover the last 80'. Would that add to the 5MS delay? Unaware if anyone has tested in this way. Just curious...
No it will not add any significant delay. 5 ms of delay = 0.005 of a second. Speed of electricity is about C (speed of light). Time for electricity to travel 100' down the xlr is 0.0000001 seconds. So your total time is now is 0.0050001 seconds. The time for electricity to travel a length of wire is insignificant in sound.
Another way to think of it is that 5ms is the time sound takes to travel 5 feet though air, if you stand 5 feet away from your speaker you are getting a 5ms delay. The time for electricity to travel 100 feet, sound travels 1/100 of an inch.
@@wally7856 Thank you for the reply and the informed and thorough explanation of your answer.
@@eugeneweston3891 A bigger question would be what purpose do you want to run another speaker 180' from your board.? If it's isolated from the main speakers (can't hear them from there) you will be fine and delay doesn't matter but if you want to run a delay stack for fill and you can still hear the main speakers from that location there will be a serious delay problem between the 2 sets of speakers. Sound travels slowly, it would take the sound from the main speakers 180 ms to reach 180 feet back. 180' back you will hear that fill speaker first (as it would be closest to you) and then 180 ms later you will hear the main speakers causing massive echo's. It would sound horrible. If you ever heard (outdoors) sound bouncing off a large brick wall 100' away from you and then bouncing back to you you know what that sounds like. Those fill speakers would have to be delayed a total of 180 ms in order to line up with the sound coming from the mains as it would take 180 ms for the sound from the mains to reach 180' back, then you would want the fill speaker to fire.
@@wally7856 That makes complete sense. I didn't have a specific application or venue in mind when I posed the original question.
I Havent Seen Any Answered Questions So Far on Anyones Question From The Poster of Video But Maybe Someone Will Know. Can This Work on JBLm925 Speakers or do They HAVE to be Powered Speakers for This adapter to Work? Thanks in Advance :)👍 And If The Answer is YES What Would Work For Nonpowered Speakers To Make Them Wireless?
It would b nice if they could make one for passive speakers lol
I was wondering did they work for passive 😂
Yea that's one reason I clicked on it,to see if they have anything for passive speakers since the title said "Any Speaker."
Seems like they would as long as you unracked your amps and placed them next to each speaker/s you’re amplifying
It’s the same thing you’re doing with an active speaker, you’re running the receiver to the amplifier in the active speaker and the transmitter from the mixer/controller
So yeah, it should be able to be done as SpeakOn cable = XLR = TRS (for the most) and all you’re sending is the line or mic level signal via wifi to the receivers
I agree with the battery life though, five hours seems short.
But the silly comments about 2.4GHz bandwidth cutting out or being unreliable is incorrect
2.4GHz is bulletproof and what you want for reliability and longer range performance
5GHz is and always has been a bad freak to use if you’re in a building and through doors, walls etc. 2.4 is perfect for this type of use and isn’t going to be goofed up by cell radios as they’re completely different bands.
So back to passive speakers, it might look goofy but you could mount your PLX II or Crown to the back of a pair of 18’s and use this system to run the audio I/O (powering as you would an active speaker, locally or as close to as possible)
Am I missing something?
It’s funny during the sound test u cut the sound of the video 😅
Cant you just use a 'piggy-back' power cable near your powered speakers and use them while plugged in???
Could it be used for a keyboard to speaker?
So basically you need active speakers which are still plugged in the wall and batteries to run the wireless transmitter and then the chance of having interference in your signal so what's the point?? Nobody that regularly gigs would not chance having your set go to shit in the middle of a performance and spend extra money for it? Just buy good cables and worry about performing
this product is great in essence. but think about it, Wireless system., that requires u to add a wire to be able to attach it ?
Great example of a product being done just for the coin and not the function. it's kinda like saying,, Wetless pool, after u've dried urself up.
It's all good until you get into a space with lots of radio frequency traffic. I can't tell you how many times I have had to explain to artists why their consumer grade wireless device wasn't working in a busy venue. Bottom line, there is a reason that a pro-level wireless rig costs what it does.
Exactly this, i just explained this also above. You cannot use 2.4Ghz for DJ venue use.
@@dj_paultuk7052 Although I haven't tried this product, I did try another similar set up that used the 2.4Ghz range and it was a disaster on my first outing with it,, Worked flawlessly at home but kept dropping out when I used it at a venue,,
I then went for the Sennheiser EW100 G4 set up and that works flawlessly..
I have modified the Sennheiser so that they can be plugged into an external power brick so they run on constant power..
I have also modified all of my Powered speakers with a power outlet in the back,,This also comes on handy with effect lights that I mount onto my Speaker stands
Could’ve been the other electronics in the system you used
2.4 is much more robust and travels further - through walls etc while 5GHz is limited by objects in the way etc.
I don’t see why a 2.4GHz spectrum would be inundated at any type of event, assuming it’s not providing free wifi over the 2.4GHz band. The partygoers will be using cellular radios which don’t conflict with 2.4 at all.
Sure 5GHz is faster but that’s irrelevant when you’re only sending a line or mic level signal or receiving it. You don’t need speed, you need fast (low) latency and a sturdy reliable connection.
There’s a million of these now for sale on Amazon etc and most are junk. All run on the 2.4GHz freak, with few offering 5GHz because of what I mentioned.
You should have your own small LAN setup for the I/O w/a secure connection SSID and password protection, and you should be fine
I don’t understand why you keep talking about interference at an event - as there’s a lot more to this than just the frequency, for instance using professional Shure wireless systems as an example….
“Digital wireless doesn't mean that it's WiFi. It refers only to the type of data being transmitted by radio.As an example, Shure's QLX-D and ULX-D systems both use UHF spectrum in the 470-790 MHz band, whereas the GLX-D system uses 2.4 GHz (2,400 MHz) WiFi.”
The GLX-D is an amazing system that is designed for performances with tens of thousands of people, or more.
It’s truly a matter of getting what you pay for
Shure, Sennheiser, and other external DACs built by the third parties are now being built using their proprietary frequency fast switching technology and the 2.4GHz band
From the ‘Broadcast Bridge’
“However, using 2.4 GHz gear under ideal conditions with good line-of-sight can achieve over 300 feet in operating distance. With good conditions, a 2.4 GHz wireless microphone system can be a cost-effective, high-quality solution. Many 2.4 GHz systems have proven themselves worthy alternatives to the UHF problems.
Wireless microphone systems in the 5 GHz frequency range are very new to the market. So far, most of the available 5 GHz systems use the upper part of the range, around 5.8 GHz. Fewer competing networks operate in 5 GHz and therefore microphone systems in this range are less susceptible to interference and crowding.
One disadvantage to 5 GHz compared with 2.4 GHz is that it’s even more dependent on line-of-sight to operate optimally. Due to the shorter wavelengths, the maximum operating distance between the transmitter and receiver is much less and the ability to deal with physical obstruction is reduced. This makes 5 GHz more suitable for close-proximity interview type situations.”
Most wireless microphones in the professional industry use UHF but it’s ever evolving and with T-Mobile’s win in the 5GHz range, it’s even more likely you’ll get interference from their 5G towers.
Alto sells theirs for $60 not an outrageous $200
It's nice but it's an unnecessary failure point
Ughh 2.4. I was hoping it wasn't. Ban phones!! 😂