Potential CRAZY Implications of the QUALITY MULTIPLIER Buff | Path of Exile 3.25 Settlers of Kalguur
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- čas přidán 29. 07. 2024
- In Path of Exile: Settlers of Kalguur, quality will now work as a more multiplier on weapons and armour gear. This video takes a look at exactly how this change functions and some potentially insane implications on specific items.
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0:00 Introduction
0:15 Teaser 1: Quality Item Level
1:18 Hidden Life Change
1:43 Teaser 2: More Quality Multiplier
2:49 Example New Quality Change
4:36 Disclaimer: Possible Pre-emptive Nerfs
5:11 Apex Cleaver
6:40 Marohi Erqi
7:19 The Winds of Fate
8:25 Starforge
8:55 Aegis Aurora
9:45 Brass Dome
10:30 Brine Crown
10:57 Cloak of Defiance
11:14 Hyrri's Ire
11:24 Incandescent Heart
11:36 Shadowstitch
12:19 Emperor's Vigilance
13:00 Ward?
13:43 Closing Thoughts - Hry
Not mentioned in the video: Beastcrafting 30% Quality/Corruption will be far more valuable following this change, as will Perfect Fossils and Tainted Armourer's Scraps. Normal quality currency may also be rarer
On the flip side: I can see them removing those crafts entirely
@@leprifacioncustard4921 I could see that as well
Honorable mention to The Apostate life-stacking builds: "more" quality change + buffed life mods shown on boots + possible new tier of armour bases (outside of shown ES body armour) = BEEEG life number
2 handed needs new item base like cape to boost some life, resistance, like quiver is doing for bow builds.
Damn, cape idea is very cool
Totem back attachment?
Ive been saying capes and backpacks for 6 leagues now.
Or maybe some kind of a passive buff on equip two handed...
Another good synergy with this change is The Vertex unique helmet + Trickster
Well, based on determination flat number nerfs (and possibly grace and discipline as well), this will compensate pretty well for those. Also shield crush buffs. And bleed also getting buffed based on all the higher numbers
To me, this basically confirms Disc/Grace/Determ Aura nerfs.
Kripp is probably going to be happy about this one xD
Like disxipline was any good... It gives little es. With good gear aura gives very little
@@jedrusnowak3317 That wont stop GGG from nerfing it^^
It's still one of the best auras for group play, especially Vaal Disc
@@jedrusnowak3317 It's not amazing, but it's used all the time on ES builds simply for the ES gain on hit Watcher's Eye mod. With some aura effect, it does add a reasonable amount of ES, and the ES recharge is actually quite strong on Wicked Ward builds (trickster spellbreaker + wicked ward setups really like some ES recharge increases).
@@Sidnv let be real. Disxipline is only taken for watchers eye. The ampunt of es is not worth the mana cost at some point of gearing
i thought they were already nerfed in kripp mode i mean ruthless mode which he only plays
Very excited for Emperor's Vigilance SST.
Loving all the videos. I'm really looking forward to seeing all the pieces of the puzzle when we can see all the changes together, I really like actual meta shakeups like this.
Gonna be HUGE!
Great video - yet again!
Thank you for the great breakdown. Your explanation is just somehow making perfect sense. Playing for years but only since started listening to your videos it kinda clicked. 😅🎉🎉🎉
i feel like, at this point, i have to say this.
dreamcore, you are my favourite poe youtuber. most poe youtubers just make clickbait titles, but with you, even if the title SEEMS clickbaity, you back it up by enough information to get me thinking. i really like those dep dives.
Appreciate that clickbait titles/thumbnails are unfortunately needed for a lot of stuff to be seen in the algorithm, but I try to keep the actual content factual and on topic
Probably worth noting that the lvl 78 ES chest shown in the teaser has an extremely high int requirement. Likely we will need to be more cognizant of stat requirements in 3.25, or Supreme Ostentation is going to be hugely popular
you prolly dont want to use supreme ostentation on es builds tho ^^
or just y'know roll the mod "reduced attribute requirements"
Now that I think about it ward could be super nice, from what I remember a wardloop build requires you to run all ward gear but with the quality change maybe you can drop an item and hopefully be less squishy to instagibs.
Was hoping someone would put out a video on some of biggest winners from quality changes, Thanks.
Belton did it yesterday.
Stoked to build voidforge again
Some other big winners i would like to add to the list: Paradoxica, Saviour, Crown of the Inward Eye and SporeGuard.
Prayge for bleedbow glad patch!
praydge for a rework
Had so much fun doing this SSF in Necropolis this league. Love it even when it isn't the strongest anymore
Are those boots above what a t1 flat life roll plus a t1 flat life plus 51 evasion hybrid total would be?
I think it is, but not sure
I forgot about Ward base types, interesting.
Restless ward stonks. One of my favourite items
Where in the calculation do tempering orbs happen.
what about the pillar of the caged god? would the quality apply after the strength stacking modifier?
Oh man I immediately thought of Emperor's Vigilance with corrupted 30% qual when I saw the change. One of my strongest builds ever was a shield crusher with a decent one I managed to chance back in crucible. This doesn't quite reach crucible levels of silly with the shield, but will be very good.
Damn I was planning on Brass Dome this league even without the changes lol
for the time being my Loath Thunder is happy
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lets hope for hybrid armors with ward, with evasion would be the best combination
Restless Ward on trickster going nuts
I wonder if there are any items that can buff the local dmg of your weapon to increase quality effect
The hunt for 30% quality and good rolled bases is now a thing to really strive for in SSF. I only see 0-1 Sacred Orbs a league, so figuring out a method to mass farm high ilvl bases in hopes of a good rolled base would probably be a better choice.
Blight-Ravaged maps drop plenty of ilvl86 bases, many of which have perfect base defense roll
what if we change the quality type with harvest crafting? does the modifiers turn to more? cause that's huge
I don't think so, since it states what those modifiers now change quality into, fe. inc elemental damage
Marohi Erqi BIG SLAMS LETS GO
how will this work with weapons that are pure elemental such as oros? i mean specifically while enchanted with harvest elemental scaling instead of physical damage. also atziri splendour might be a nice item for cheap stats.
We don't know if Harvest quality will be changed, but as of right now the wording implies it will remain as the stat stated: ie. quality instead grants % inc elemental damage. I think this change is supposed to be a buff for physical weapons in part
Keep in mind that auras like determination are also getting nerfed based on one of the previous reveals so it seems like they’re putting an emphasis on gear and a little bit less emphasis on the auras
I feel like ive been asking for this for years i just didnt know it, I thought the skills were bad for leveling but if they really dont want to touch them then its the items that suck and quality item currencies were pointless before you get to endgame now you can upgrade more easily and I hope to try new attack and melee skills for leveling
I have got some legacy max rolled brass dome on std(600%)..... I have to go check how much armor those will get!
Crazy idea. The base with more life on it - what if that is an adjustment.... to a skill tree rework? They just imported the boss life bars from POE2 to POE1 - what IF they import their version of skill trees, complete with removing life off the tree completely, and instead they moved all the life to the gear?
I doubt that all life is being removed from the tree, but I could absolutely see some of it making way for other defensive system reworks, and in that case a small buff to the amount of life obtainable on each gear piece would make sense
Wcore posts agian
What about quality apply to crit crafts?
Can you break down how a weapon like Pillar of the caged god work with the new changes? also how does the weapon work compared to a normal weapon when adding things like flat added dmg from other sources such as bloodthirst support?
For pillar the quality change doesn't change anything, it would still directly improve the weapon base damage and because there's no other local modifiers, it doesn't matter if it's increased or more quality. Added damage is applied after weapon base damage, so it wouldn't be affected by quality
You forgot to mention the buff to the base types, which I think will also apply to the unique armor
We don't know about any current base type buffs yet
they are nerfing how good auras are, so maybe life will be higher on equipment.
Just Out of curiousity because i am lazy, and i am tired from Work, but how do uul netol axes fare with These calculations?
Embrace gets a top end of 950 (previously 783) with 30% qual
I'd consider winds of fate only if there would be item with modifier like: "your hits count as critical strike hits". So that weapon would actually damage with every hit but actual crit chance would be capped at 50%, and yet decent rare weapon with capped crit will be better and easier to build around 😅
Because I'm a huge inquisitor fan all I can see is buff to battlemage via quality buffs
Hyrri's Ire max q and trickster you will get so much es from it
Is flask quality multiplicative as well or still additive with increased duration?
Mark only said weapons and armour(gear), so nothing about flasks just yet
I hope GGG will at least have the decency to thank you for bringing these to their attention after they nerf them.
Edit: Oh, you did mention potential nerfs. Sorry for not having enough faith in you.
They know their own game
If a massive NERF on gems is not confirmed, this opens the possibility of reviving thousands of builds that had already become obsolete. Incredible.
On the other hand, I wonder if this will apply to Pillar of the Caged God, considering that it increases the weapon's physical damage by 16% per 10 strength. That is, with 29% quality, it will increase 20% physical damage for every 10 strength?
No, quality on Pillar will just boost the physical flat damage on the weapon itself
Isn’t the boots just flat life and a hybrid life/evasion roll?
That currently doesn't reach 121
@@dreamcore_gg ooh i see
They will nerv other stuff like the passiv tree so you probably will be less tanky early game
Higher Life is hopefully a drop only mod
tailoring orbs will gain alot of value aswell
Man I really wish unique items gets some love, and not just numerical buffs, but a system exclusive to them.
I know Mark and the team has a firm stance on uniques, but uniques have been powercrept way too much with the amount of shit they keep adding for rare items. Uniques have basically have been left behind.
Imagine if we get something similar to Last epoch LP system..
Armour Fragments will drop between chaos and divines now I bet.
I guess they want to reduce difference between XXX stacking and crafted weapons. This dmg boost is nowhere close to compensate the 50% more dps from totems, so there has to be way more.
Wonder if they keep Apex axe as is.. also most of the unique will be 20% unless you corrupt them
lets go sst
Damn this is not what I would’ve guessed you looked like. You look almost normal
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holy moly, delve perfect fossils will be B I G M O N E Y
Hey, how do you get a unique to 30% without corrupting now? :O
Sambodhi's Vow, Perfected Fossil > Chance/Omen of Fortune, Rare monster conversion drop
How about Pillar of the Caged God?
You will have a lot of inc physical dmg that will be multiplied I guess?
No, it will only multiply the flat base damage of the weapon. Added damage from sources such as bloodthirst is added after weapon base damage is calculated
Very unlikely uniques won't be nerfed to cancel out the quality change. We already saw this happen with unique bows when bases were buffed. Mods were nerfed to make them unchanged, even though none were being used
they nerfed determination which means you probably need 1000 armour to compensate...
Is the world ending..? Can I go outside?! AM I SAFE, MR. CORE????!! Love your videos :D
STAY SAFE
Marohi Erqi is looking spicy, maybe battlemage it was well... For reasons...
or some spellblade stuff + battlemage with a sword
Its decided...SST Champ is my LS....GGG pls leave Emperor's Vigilance as it is...kiss kiss
Because of this Quality rework to bake in the melee damage with the removal of required totem use was going to mess the defensive numbers, they are nerfing Determination/Grace/Disciple, instead of nerfing each and every Unique. And they are adding the new base types to make up for the aura nerfs, if you are using crafted items. They aren't nerfing Aegis, Brass Dome, etc. The #s aren't that "crazy", they removed 1200 flat from Determination cause your getting 1200 back on your other gear. I highly doubt they're touching any of these.
You don't know GGG very well.
Do we expect a nerf to Trickster Escape Artist as gear will have higher es and evasion?
Possibly, but there could be other changes that affect Trickster already fe. possible spell suppression nerf
I would like to know if necropolis is going core. I think the reason why we have not heard anything is because it is hotly debated. The crafting system as is, is extremely busted. The mid league nerfs to allflames would be explained by this move. (Kinda), so maybe just keep allflames. We did lose access to sextants, so it is almost a perfect replacement. On top of that, if we get new tiers of everything also ward, then they could at first, lock it behind the new mechanic. 😅 Yes it would be a D move, but it would force us crafters to engage with the new mechanic.
It's usually around this time(within a couple of days) that we hear about whether a league is going core or not, so expect a post about Necropolis very soon. My guess: nothing from Necropolis is going core
@@dreamcore_gg Allflames should go core but in the same way as tatoos did - fine'tuned only.
That means iron commander gets buffed?
There's gonna be some really silly items on Standard after this change. Imagine a perfect Crucible tree Emperor's Vigilance, where quality suddenly provides %more defence...
Not like I really care about Standard, but it's just funny to think about
surely they wil nerf boneshatter, right?
To be fair Quality for apex cleaver should be 70% not 60%, because you have taken despot to 30%.the dmg would be even higher.
NGL dude I preferred your videos when you were just a disembodied voice and no face cam. Still a fan though cheers!
I get it, but it's just one of those things that's required in a way for the channel to grow and evolve. It depends on the video too, fe. in the forgotten uniques I'm only present on screen in the intro and outro
if they nerf the % increase rolls they had BETTER keep it legacy for existing items, I aint boutta give up my 1k ES crucible shield
i bet this is meant to be a buff for them removing melee totem buffs
So is this a indirect nerf to minions and spell casters?
Minion builds and casters will still benefit from the change on armour items, less so on weapons which is good as it lessens the gap between melee on those other archetypes.
@@dreamcore_gg Ain't the meta mainly bows aka ranged anyway?
@@jackijack12 Not really - this league in SC trade the most played class was Deadeye at 13%, but the following 4 classes(Hiero, Trickster, Inquis, Necro) make up 41% of all classes and they're made up of a lot of caster builds
*INHALES COPIUM* They are going to buff Fist of War and revert Seismic Cry with all of these melee and unique changes, right guys?
Surely
These melee changes are still no where near enough. They still do less damage then lv20 spell gems that you get for free and that's not even considering how hard it'll be to get these weapons. The floor is still sky high and the top barely moved and they're still miles behind spells
but how do you get 30% quality on unique items? isnt the max 20%?
Beastcraft, Taited currency
or as stated above, perfect fossil rare item to 30%, chance/omen
Or betrayal
@@exitus7726 incorrect. that was removed in the last patch.
@@johnturtle6649 it was? Damn
shhhh no pre nerf only buffs ;))
gg
Teach me, oh great one Dreamcore, so one day I can possess but a fraction of your game knowledge.
My analysis: melee damage go up, but must go down somewhere else, bye bye totem melee damage bonus.
Must it go down though? It kind of needs to go up and stay up
melee totems gave way more than these "boosted" weapons, so it has to go up for melee, but I would not be surprised with some nerfs to physbow skills.
@@dreamcore_gg it neeeds to but... do we have faith in ggg for this ?
@@jeanperdsmesbras5720 I think they might finally be doing it this league
Why would you expect nerfs to weapons? This is clearly a buff for melee because it's weak why would they buff somewhere just to remove other stuff
NERFlers of QOLguur
These #s aren't crazy if they did in fact remove totems. Take ANY POB of any current melee build that uses Ancestral Protector and Warchief and annointed Panopticon. Remove the Totems and mod the weapon/damage dealer to the new Quality multiplier. I guarantee the DPS goes down. Yes you have 3 gem slots and an open annoint, but you probably already used all your mana reservation with the highest damage dealing aura(s) you can get. You probably can't reserve more or find an aura to make up for the totem loss. Unless they also buff the base damage to melee skills or buff them in some other way, this might actually be a QOL buff (les button pushing) but a DPS nerf to melee.
I don't think the quality change will be the only part of this if ancestral totems are in fact being removed from their current form. There will be more, otherwise melee builds using non-phys weapons literally deal 50% less damage
SO... we lost half of defensive auras and got a 20% more local on armour? With overhelm on top? (30% will be really expensive).
Everyone. Grab your lightning coils.
Damn. Quite a nerf I would say. Honestly, I think overwhelm is BS. Is really deceitful, specially to new players. Took me years of PoE, until dthey day I watched a youtube video where a guy explained how armour works to learn that. GGG could understand not everyone know the wiki from back and forth. Most players just play the game and don't read for hours about it's mechanics (that are not few)
1:37 T1 life + Hybrid life
It's not, unless those mods have been changed. 121 is not possible with current mods
All the poor aura and armour stacker builds
My theory about the life on the boots is that Quality affects life mods
We can already see that's not the case because the boots start with no quality in the teaser and the life doesn't change after adding quality
@@dreamcore_gg dang. I thought maybe the 121 Life on the 4% quality boots was indicating that a max rolled (117HP) set of boots +4% = 121ish
Legacy ~40% quality weapons.....mmmmm
not legacy, still in heist.
Sst looks turbo buffed this patch
too bad it got nerfed so heavily multiple times in a row
These will all be nerfed due to the changes
Be ready to see at least weapon bases receiving nerf to balance out those changes. If you will ask why then even touch the quality? It's obvious. To the new player current weapon quality is very hard to grasp and simple damage multiplier would be much more intuitive.
Also scraps will get insane nerf to the drop rate. I guess the last one is obvious.
1 minute and 0 likes, bro really fell off
stop dude....
Haha yes this joke is still funny
CZcams comments never disappoint
2023 called. They want their meme back.