when I was fifteen, I was working a lot, I was kicked out of high school. so as I was working a lot I had a used twin reverb and telecaster, so I named my cats Reverb and Tele, and hearing you say you with have Reverb or you don't have Reverb made me think fondly of Reverb and Tele, Kind of off topic but I love you guys! Keep up the good entertaining work and invite me on the show I need a vacation or holiday.
Back when I started playing guitar, a friend of mine picked up a Marshall MG15CDR that someone threw away, he replaced the power plug and gave it to me. Have always thought it was broken or something, because whenever I move or shake the amp, it produces weird, thunderous like noises. Only after I got back into playing guitar again in recent years and getting more serious on learning guitar stuffs in general, that I've learnt that there's an actual spring tank inside of it that produces the reverb.
My wife got me the "tone tone tone" t-shirt for my first ever fathers day last Sunday. Looks great, highly recommend. This is the only guitar channel I catch her looking up and watching sometimes. Really speaks to how well your friendship and enthusiasm comes through the screen.
Circled back round to this video (yet again!) and wanted to say a happy belated Father's Day, from a fellow dad (three here) and guitar nerd. My kids adore TPS. Mark of a most excellent child. Cheers, Davide!
I had trouble figuring out how not to lose the "character" of delays like Echoplex and DMM when run into some of these bigger reverb sounds. Then I discovered running delay and reverb in parallel, and I've become a big fan. Thanks to Dan for The Wetter Box! What a great piece of kit that allows you to blend delays and reverbs together without the delay getting washed out in the reverb.
Pro tip for spring reverbs that sound tinny: a drop of super glue on the transducers to keep them from rattling, weather stripping to mount the tank for extra shock absorbtion, cardboard underneath and foam/cloth around the tank (if it's not already in a pencil case bag.)Can turn a dinky verb into something useable.
@@alexpoovey9852 the verb on the hot rod deluxe is awesome tho! I have one and it’s 1000x better than the verb on my AC30. But i use twins at my school and the verb in those are delicious
I was literally just asked this same question a couple days ago! I was showing a mate my new surfy bear metal and was about to plug into my deluxe reverb. Both are spring reverbs, both have full sized tanks but sound completely different from each other. It helps tremendously to be able to set and forget a moderate amount of reverb up on the dr for my basic/clean tone and then switch to the surfy bear for when I want to cruise on down to drip city.
I didn't think I needed extra reverb till last week when I tried the strymon blue sky...I fell totally in love with the sound. It just nails it perfectly for guitar. My board seems complete now! Phew....that's until next week of course 😆
I have TC Electronic Hall of Fame and the Earthquaker Devices Afterneath, I also have the Earthquaker Devices Disaster Transport SR (which has 2 Delays and Reverb), the only one I really want now is the Strymon Volante.
@@michaelcope9501 yes definitely, mind you it's been many years of tinkering and changing things out, but I finally feel like I'm 99% happy with what I've got now....always that 1% that bothers you though 😆
Really interesting how the pre delay setting setting makes the reverb seem bigger. I hadn't really thought about it that way but makes perfect sense. Great show as always, Cheers from Michigan.
Bryan, varying the length of the predelay is an engineer’s secret weapon. 1. It increase the apparent size of the reverb without actually lengthen the amount of decay and 2. It actually adds clarity to the original signal by creating separation between the two. For me, the default starting point for predelay is 90ms. Give it a try!
Perfect timing, lads. I've been trying to justify getting a reverb pedal - I have a big box spring thing in me amp - and you've given me several reasons why I should convince Mrs X that it's a good investment. Once I'm past that, I'll have to cope with option paralysis.
The new shots of individual pedals standing upright during the video are really awesome. It’s so fun to get a good look at them from a different perspective. Thanks for making the shows better and better all the time. You guys are never complacent.
THanks Garrick. Mick here. In a former life I had an interest in photography (and presided over hundreds of photo shoots) and I still marvel at how good those guys and gals were. So we try to make it look nice too. Cheers!
I was always thinking "what is it with Dans Playing?" something is so different and new. But in this episode it really really shines and shows how unique your style is. Amazing chord voicings and dynamics. Super interesting! You guys are not only complete pedal nerds, but also superb players! Keep on rocking dudes :)
Hello boys, from Bloomington, Indiana. As a recovering recording engineer, I love the use of reverb. It’s a great tool for creating space. One question I wished you had touched on….where does (guitarist’s) reverb fit in a LIVE setting? For me, I rarely use reverb on my live gigging pedal board, just delay if I need to create a bit of “float.” The size/space of the venue imparts its own reflections on the sound, and onboard reverb can (potentially) make your sound less clear and present. For example, I play in my church band. Many contemporary Christian recordings today have an “arena” sound, so guys at church think they have to impart that reverb wash in a live setting, then they wonder why my Tele-OD-delay with about 130ms/4 repeats sounds so huge through the PA.
I've tried tons of reverbs and I always go back to the JHS 3 series reverb. It does 1 thing and sounds incredible. I like to put it in front of modulation too to get cool tails.
I built a Princeton Reverb years ago. Not sure I’ve ever turned the Reverb knob past 5 despite having a Dwell knob - otherwise I’d drown 😜. However, I got a Walrus Fathom yesterday and the wide range of sounds that pedal can produce is fabulous. It does NOT do spring reverb, but it does so many other wonderful things and you have so much control.
Oddly enough I have spring tanks in all my amps. I’ve always just set it low and on this past Monday I ordered my first ambient type reverb and it’s being delivered today so this couldn’t have been times better!
The small room reverb is such a great alternative to the usual hall/plate type reverb. Reminds me of some Brian May solos where even though the track is quite sonically dense/complex, the guitar pokes out of the mix and makes you feel like you are standing next to Brian in the studio. It 'breaks the 4th wall' of a studio album and I love it - thanks for showing us this guys! 😁
The reason I bought the Fender Tre-verb pedal is that I was using the FX loop in my amp, and the reverb in the amp was BEFORE the loop. I prefer delay after pre-amp drive and before reverb, so it had to come from a pedal in the loop. In addition, the Super Sonic 22 amp I was using has a noisy pre-amp so I wanted a noise gate in the loop. The amp reverb before the loop would get its trails chopped off by the noise gate, so I'd go Loop Out - Modulation - Noise Gate - Delay - Reverb - Trem - Loop In.
Love the video guys! Not only can you put gain stages after the verb, but adding modulation aver verb is really cool as well! A good chorus, flanger, or vibrato modulating the reverb trails sounds amazing.
TPS cooking with ambience ! .... all the reverb people are over there in the large hall.... meanwhile .... all the non reverb people have locked themselves in a small cupboard ...
TPS been cooking vegetarian fender style sandwiches, i am still waiting for a big juicy dirt amp burger with lots of fried fuzz/od pedals and a milkshake with modulation pedals to go.
For me, I’d always want the option to control specific parameters so, yes. It’s nice to have reverb on an amp if you’re having a simple plug in and play day. But rig attached I’d never use the amp reverb. It’s too far away from my chair. 😂
My exact thoughts. For a little portable plug and play setup I want a built in reverb since I'll probably not run any pedals at all. But for my regular setup I absolutely want more control than an in amp reverb will give. That said, I rarely mess with it. I have it dialed in for just enough to not feel dry and dull. I run the Neunaber Immerse Mk2 and it was worth every penny. I had the MXR and it was good but I felt like it was tougher to dial in. It was also picky about my power supply, which could add to the cost for folks running cheaper ones that are working for them. My whole board is running off a OneSpot right now and perfectly happy. *knocks on wood*
Reverb is possibly the most Important thing after the basic tone of the guitar and amp. It changes everything, you can do a million different things, just with reverb/s. I love it almost as much as these two guys ✌️
What Mick said about using mild reverbs to sit in the mix - exactly. When I'm playing alone, I basically never use reverb, and I don't especially like playing with it. When I mix a recording, I'll put just a little bit of the same reverb on everything (usually room verb), and then a touch of another reverb on something I want to pop out of the mix (usually a high-passed plate). People *drastically* underestimate how much reverb is in pretty much every mix, and, oh, 80% of it is there not to be heard as such, but as a space-carving implement.
I’ve always liked having 2 reverbs and 2 delays. I use one of the reverbs and one delay very mildly set to improve the room sound then I still have a reverb and a delay I can set as a obvious “effect”
I’m just diving in to the heavier delays and verbs. I’ve always got one of each on mildly for my base tone as well. This may be the option I need. Thanks
After a long search I found the Catalinbread Topanga. Lovely reverb that can be subtle or huge and all points in between. It’s the best spring emulation IMO. It replicates all the clang and drip of a real spring tank. Love it.
That pre-delay is so subtle I didn't really understand it playing with my jhs reverb, but hearing it here, it really cleans up the attack. I like it! 🤔
Brilliant episode guys. Yeah, it was annoying that we primarily experienced and encountered reverb within amps, but as you said, Digital Reverb was around in rack formats. I think from 1985 for PA's and home recording there were things like the Yamaha SPX-90. However, the REX-50 was a guitar based version from 1986 which fitted perfectly on top of an amp, and had the option of MIDI and standard Footswitches. I've got my original unit and still use it. As you said, there were other Multi-FX available, especially the BOSS mini rack stuff and it was widely used, well around the Midlands it was anyway. I also sold them.
I just love these guys ! I literally cannot wait to meet both them for next workshop they do finally ! it will be my first time there so I’m dead keen just thought of talking about guitar and gear all day sounds like best day ever. I’ll make sure to bring my guitar and pedalboard 🤟🤟🤟
@@typenjw absolutely. It’s all over my ep (see channel for playlist). It was really fun to use it more unconventionally for ambient music. It created an almost flute like toneality.
@@shckltnebay I was a bit the same at first but I jumped in at a great price and it really sounds stellar IMO. The plate and HM trem are well worth it 👍
Mick and Dan: Thanks for your help last time with my pedal noise issue. I got a TrueTone OneSpot CS7 and it seems to have done the trick... mostly... I still get swirly noises in the amp when the MXR Phase 90 is on (in either 200 or 500 mAh plugs), but you were right about the MXR M300 reverb - I put it into a 500 mAh plug and the rest of the noise went away. Thanks so much! PS: I am so in love with my D&M Drive. What an epic pedal! It's everything I could have wanted for drive and boost, all in one place! Great job!
By the way, in your Truetone one spot. The ratings on the power output are meaningless. The 500ma output gives you no more or less power than the 100ma output. It's the type of design.
I'm sad to see the Mr Black Supermoon not getting on the board for a demo. For someone who gets a headache looking at pedals with more than about five parameters to twiddle with that was one of the first ambient verbs I could get along with
“Space (around the note), the final frontier…” Princeton Reverb + EQD Dispatch Master is all the splosh I NEED. ‘No reverb, no happy’ t-shirts coming? 🤓
For all the boutique pedal companies out their (and I’ve owned/own a bunch) I’m reminded how good the Boss pedals really are. Simple and well thought-out.
Sometimes reverb doesn't have to work in the mix... like when everybody else gets to have a pint while you noodle for the room. Dan's breathtaking opener--which mortar-and-pestled my soul into a fine powder--is a perfect example. The room gets happy, the band gets happy, and you can let yourself get tangled up in all that glorious resonance.
IM SO JELLY!!!! YOU LOVELY LADS HAVE ALL THESE PEDALS N AMPS N GUITARS N STUFF, AND YOU GET TO EXPERIMENT TO YOUR HEARTS CONTENT, IN ANY DIRECTION YOU DESIRE, HAVING SO MUCH FUN!!! wich is what it's all about anyway, I AM SOOOOO JELLY!!!!!!! NEVER STOP!!!!!! mitch from Minnesota
My main amp is a Deluxe Reverb...best reverb in the business as far as I'm concerned. I bought a Catalinbread Topanga to use with my blackface Vibrochamp and realized I could use it with my DR for some extra reverb/depth without walking over and adjusting the amp. Sounds great. Cheers guys!
Reverb is by far my favorite effect. I play music that normally means I turn the amp reverb off and use pedals. Spring reverb in an amp just isn’t enough reverb for me.
TGI-TPS-F!! I use a 64 deluxe reverb (handwired) with certainly one of the best reverb sounds around. However, I started using a Catalinbread Topanga as it somehow dealt better with gainier sounds. Endet up using the Free The Tone Ambi Space which is mindblowing. No nonsense, just tone!
you cannot control the length of an amp spring, just the intensity. Thats why you need something that gives air around individual notes. For that you need an early reflection reverb like a Topanga or just a simple very short delay low in the mix. Start with that and add yr amp reverb according to playing situation.
A good sounding reverb can be so inspirational not only for tone, but in the creation of the music itself. I can think of no greater example of this than Devin Townsend. He uses reverb as a compositional tool as well as a large part of his tone; no matter the genre that he finds himself working with. It's a truly wonderful effect. Great episode guys! Thank you for all the hard work.
Thanks for this one! Shout out to the late James Calvin Wilsey, the guitarist who played on the early Chris Isaak album (the only good ones imo). One of my favorite guitar players. Check out his instrumental solo album titled El Dorado. There are a few articles online about his life. Sad story but he was a good dude. He also played bass for the punk bank the Avengers.
Spring reverb is the sound of your guitar reverberating in the acoustic space created by a spacetime-warping wormhole through rock n roll past, present, and future.
Great tones, and a variety of awesome sounding reverbs. I've been using plugin reverbs lately when recording because I find that using the same reverb on multiple instruments helps "glue" the track together and make it sound like one cohesive thing.
Another option not explored (i think) is a very short delay before reverb. That is not a pre delay. The short delay gives you definition around single notes which then moves into a space w reverb. Best of both worlds imo. The pre delay option showcased in the video is not the same thing although that is actually useful to separate the delay from the reverb..
Show idea: wet/dry or stereo rigs using only a multi effects unit for the wet side (HX Effects, Boss GT 1000 Core, etc) and use stand-alone analog dirt pedals on the dry side - this looks like a real space saving idea on the surface but can you get tones that move you?
I run a strymon Flint into a Bigsky and it sounds huge. Not washed out. Still able to hear the notes. DR Z Z28, so no reverb, but when i did have a amp with reverb, I always run 2 reverbs. Always.
Yet another timely episode. I just bought a little verb pedal yesterday. Was inspired by Ariel Posen and one or two others, to look for something that makes some nice noises beyond the reverb on my amps (one of which has proper spring verb). Had to be small enough, and top-mount jacks, to tuck into a corner on an SA250, and be a deliberate mood effect.
Great to have you guys back! The other thing to me about pedal reverb is that, to my ears, spring reverbs can have a sort of non-linear response where they get exponentially louder the harder you hit them, while to my ears the car majority of pedal reverbs have a more linear response (which can give you more reverb when playing more delicately). And I think the siding reverb EQ can be relatively specific...
All my amps have been marshalls or tweeds - no reverbs. I've been through the White Whale, Surfy Bear Compact, Boss RV-500, Boss FRV-1, Carl Martin Headroom, the Monkey Man... None of the above did it for me (the RV-500 sounded good, but too complicated), I still have an RV-6 and a Boing, but the natural reverb in my living room (playing a 57 Champ reissue or Marshall ASC1 Astoria combo) sounds plenty good. BUT, yesterday I set a few pedals up and the amps in stereo coming out of the RV-6. Sounds terrific, even the mono Boing sounds a gazillion times better through the two amps together. Still jonesing for a cheap Victoria Reverberato or a Surfy Bear Classic, and a handwired Princeton Reverb reissue. Oh and the Boing spring emulation into the RV-6 set to a non-spring type stereo 'verb = awesome
I liked the White Whale, but moved it on as the amps I acquired all had spring reverb. I then acquired one without spring reverb and tried out the VanAmps SoleMate Jr which is cool when I want. Never played around with a digital reverb. Maybe it is time to have a play for fun.
I always like it when you guys get out your respective offsets. Something about them makes both of you play a little differently and it always sounds great.
I have three on my board right now. That’s before the M5 (sorry Mick I know you’re not a fan but it’s a great utility pedal for me) is counted! Can’t live without them.
I'm on a bit of a second honeymoon with my M5 (i assume you mean the line6?). I just built a midi patch controller for it with an automatic expression ramp switch. It can do momentary on/off too so I'm using it a lot more with the band now.
@@alanredversangel Each one is 15"×12". The whole board is 50"×15". It consists of the 2 M13s (one before the amp, one in the amp's stereo FX Loop), 2 Morley Expression pedals, an Optical Volume, a WL-50 wireless reciever/charger, and some foot switches (All Power On/Off, Drum Machine, Amp Channel Select) I've put into 3 custom enclosures.
the biggest challenge for me is trying to find the one reverb that produces the best harmonic content with my particular tone (or guitar I'm playing that day). I find a lot of spring reverbs sound great with certain guitars of mine and terrible with others, especially when it comes to creating that complimentary harmonic content, that lush velvet goodness that makes you ooze. so for me, having a few reverb pedals is a must in my "tool kit of tones", and ultimately gives me more creative freedom, creates more space to explore that balance of realism and dreamland.
Holy shit. I stopped watching pedal show for ~8 months since Kemper became my new platform. Now I come back to enjoy some of those sweet sweet tones, and I see that Dan got 30 years older! =P
That bloody awesome guys. I really like messing around with reverb, I have a basic cheap behringer DR600, great pedal for its price range, on a room setting, going through the loop in the back of my amp, and that is on its own built in Reverb. On spring..... does give a bolder thickness to the reverb. Thanks again guys.
Sometimes I love reverb and others I can't stand it. At the moment I like a bit of ambient wash but I have started experimenting with reverb pedals. Currently I have a Fender Treverb sitting on my board doing double duties.
A very enjoyable episode, although I must be a very boring bugger because for the best and most inspiring sound was the Tone King by itself with the reverb up full! That's very interesting about the Mark III having two reverb levels - I used to use a Boss FRV -1 up full on top of my amp spring up full in the shoegazey band I was in, kicking the boss in as needed. Cheers
Really neat to see the Collider in the mix! Just got one a few days ago and still digging into it with my mini board, so I'll have to steal some of those settings. I have a mini tuner, Chase Bliss Preamp, Source Audio Collider, and the Walrus ACS1 all controlled by the Morningstar M6. Pretty crazy having such a compact direct solution with tones and presets this good. Always appreciate you both and hope you have a good weekend!
I learned in recording years ago to mix different reverbs. It sounds less artificial that way. So now I use a HOF plate in front of my amps spring reverb.
Great playing. Love your take on reverb. Keep some on at all times. (Unless your playing where enough occurs naturally) the whole point is to emulate space. Also when both those amps came on together it felt like a cheat code was unlocked. Amazing stuff guys
I like having reverb on an expression pedal, so I can 'inject' it into the sound as and when, leave the odd note of a solo just hanging in space... generally, I like it dry, all the gain dynamics detailed and focused. But... LOVE the Accutronics in a couple of me amps, love the cheap trashy spring reverb in another, love the beautifully articulate digital reverbs, the cavernous hall... I have quite a few options, but STILL plan to add more horses for my various courses.... Great show as always guys - love how you climb into the corners of the anorak! We all need you... Stay safe out there! Big Love from the New Forest
I used to be an "all the reverb, all the time" kinda player but, maybe 10 years ago, I realized that so many of the tones I loved... "Can't Explain", "All Right Now", etc.... are bone dry. Playing without reverb gives an immediacy and punch to your tone that I just can't bring myself to turn away from now. I do still have the 'verb in my Fenders and a Flint and Plethora on my board should I have the urge (or I decide to do some surf), but now I use it purely as an effect and never as an always-on.
I just recently bought a Princeton and I noticed that I’m not playing with as much reverb as I normally would and I think it’s because the “punchiness” and attack of the 10inch speaker in the Princeton can really be appreciated that much more without loads of reverb. I’ll mainly just throw on a little bit of room and call it a day
I've never been particularly drawn to Jaguars, but that America Original Jag you're playing, Dan, sounds gorgeous. And I wouldn't be in a rush to throw a Mastery bridge on there unless you're going to play really hard. That slightly dead, woody tone is so distinctive and sounds great with the kind of playing you were doing in the intro. Great stuff!
when I was fifteen, I was working a lot, I was kicked out of high school. so as I was working a lot I had a used twin reverb and telecaster, so I named my cats Reverb and Tele, and hearing you say you with have Reverb or you don't have Reverb made me think fondly of Reverb and Tele, Kind of off topic but I love you guys! Keep up the good entertaining work and invite me on the show I need a vacation or holiday.
Drugs are bad for you.
Good lord, Dan. Sometimes the playing in that shed is enough to bring a grown man to tears. The happiest sort. Just lovely.
Ah, cheers Kurtis 🤓🙏
Back when I started playing guitar, a friend of mine picked up a Marshall MG15CDR that someone threw away, he replaced the power plug and gave it to me. Have always thought it was broken or something, because whenever I move or shake the amp, it produces weird, thunderous like noises. Only after I got back into playing guitar again in recent years and getting more serious on learning guitar stuffs in general, that I've learnt that there's an actual spring tank inside of it that produces the reverb.
My wife got me the "tone tone tone" t-shirt for my first ever fathers day last Sunday. Looks great, highly recommend. This is the only guitar channel I catch her looking up and watching sometimes. Really speaks to how well your friendship and enthusiasm comes through the screen.
Thank you Davide, and congrats to you and the missus!
Circled back round to this video (yet again!) and wanted to say a happy belated Father's Day, from a fellow dad (three here) and guitar nerd. My kids adore TPS. Mark of a most excellent child. Cheers, Davide!
I had trouble figuring out how not to lose the "character" of delays like Echoplex and DMM when run into some of these bigger reverb sounds. Then I discovered running delay and reverb in parallel, and I've become a big fan. Thanks to Dan for The Wetter Box! What a great piece of kit that allows you to blend delays and reverbs together without the delay getting washed out in the reverb.
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Pro tip for spring reverbs that sound tinny: a drop of super glue on the transducers to keep them from rattling, weather stripping to mount the tank for extra shock absorbtion, cardboard underneath and foam/cloth around the tank (if it's not already in a pencil case bag.)Can turn a dinky verb into something useable.
i need to try this on my hot rod deluxe… i thought i was just spoiled on the reverb in my twin but maybe it just needs a little tweaking. thanks
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On a Hot Rod Deluxe you can cut off the bright capacitor on the Reverb pot and it gets really sweet and darker in tone.
@@alexpoovey9852 the verb on the hot rod deluxe is awesome tho! I have one and it’s 1000x better than the verb on my AC30.
But i use twins at my school and the verb in those are delicious
I was literally just asked this same question a couple days ago!
I was showing a mate my new surfy bear metal and was about to plug into my deluxe reverb. Both are spring reverbs, both have full sized tanks but sound completely different from each other.
It helps tremendously to be able to set and forget a moderate amount of reverb up on the dr for my basic/clean tone and then switch to the surfy bear for when I want to cruise on down to drip city.
@neonthunderbird the amp for smaller clean stuff and the surfy bear for that vintage all out drip
I didn't think I needed extra reverb till last week when I tried the strymon blue sky...I fell totally in love with the sound. It just nails it perfectly for guitar. My board seems complete now! Phew....that's until next week of course 😆
I have TC Electronic Hall of Fame and the Earthquaker Devices Afterneath, I also have the Earthquaker Devices Disaster Transport SR (which has 2 Delays and Reverb), the only one I really want now is the Strymon Volante.
That long!!??
A complete board. Such an awesome place to be. Congrats Ed!
@@michaelcope9501 yes definitely, mind you it's been many years of tinkering and changing things out, but I finally feel like I'm 99% happy with what I've got now....always that 1% that bothers you though 😆
@@richardaaron4454 that does sound awesome. Good luck on your journey!
Really interesting how the pre delay setting setting makes the reverb seem bigger. I hadn't really thought about it that way but makes perfect sense. Great show as always, Cheers from Michigan.
Bryan, varying the length of the predelay is an engineer’s secret weapon. 1. It increase the apparent size of the reverb without actually lengthen the amount of decay and 2. It actually adds clarity to the original signal by creating separation between the two.
For me, the default starting point for predelay is 90ms. Give it a try!
Great point! 👍🏻@@ericruddphotography
Listening to the show whilst waiting in on a delivery of new microphones. Going to be a day of nothing but music, awesome! 😁
I’m waiting on a Kingsley Jester. Can’t wait to rock out tonight! Happy Friday!
I’m waiting on a New PRS ….Then it’s on. ……..Howdy Neighbours!
Perfect timing, lads. I've been trying to justify getting a reverb pedal - I have a big box spring thing in me amp - and you've given me several reasons why I should convince Mrs X that it's a good investment. Once I'm past that, I'll have to cope with option paralysis.
The new shots of individual pedals standing upright during the video are really awesome. It’s so fun to get a good look at them from a different perspective. Thanks for making the shows better and better all the time. You guys are never complacent.
THanks Garrick. Mick here. In a former life I had an interest in photography (and presided over hundreds of photo shoots) and I still marvel at how good those guys and gals were. So we try to make it look nice too. Cheers!
I was always thinking "what is it with Dans Playing?" something is so different and new. But in this episode it really really shines and shows how unique your style is. Amazing chord voicings and dynamics. Super interesting!
You guys are not only complete pedal nerds, but also superb players!
Keep on rocking dudes :)
Thank you!
Just had Paul Davids try to teach me Miserlou - then switched over and listened to you guys try to play it 6 minutes in. Great episode.
Hello boys, from Bloomington, Indiana. As a recovering recording engineer, I love the use of reverb. It’s a great tool for creating space.
One question I wished you had touched on….where does (guitarist’s) reverb fit in a LIVE setting? For me, I rarely use reverb on my live gigging pedal board, just delay if I need to create a bit of “float.” The size/space of the venue imparts its own reflections on the sound, and onboard reverb can (potentially) make your sound less clear and present.
For example, I play in my church band. Many contemporary Christian recordings today have an “arena” sound, so guys at church think they have to impart that reverb wash in a live setting, then they wonder why my Tele-OD-delay with about 130ms/4 repeats sounds so huge through the PA.
I've tried tons of reverbs and I always go back to the JHS 3 series reverb. It does 1 thing and sounds incredible. I like to put it in front of modulation too to get cool tails.
besides the reverb, that tone king is a gorgeous looking amp
I built a Princeton Reverb years ago. Not sure I’ve ever turned the Reverb knob past 5 despite having a Dwell knob - otherwise I’d drown 😜. However, I got a Walrus Fathom yesterday and the wide range of sounds that pedal can produce is fabulous. It does NOT do spring reverb, but it does so many other wonderful things and you have so much control.
Oddly enough I have spring tanks in all my amps. I’ve always just set it low and on this past Monday I ordered my first ambient type reverb and it’s being delivered today so this couldn’t have been times better!
The small room reverb is such a great alternative to the usual hall/plate type reverb. Reminds me of some Brian May solos where even though the track is quite sonically dense/complex, the guitar pokes out of the mix and makes you feel like you are standing next to Brian in the studio. It 'breaks the 4th wall' of a studio album and I love it - thanks for showing us this guys! 😁
That's very true, it's similar to a 'back of the cab' mic'ing up sound.
I feel for the Roland space echo at the back not getting any limelight during the spring reverb chat - hang in there bro we love you
The reason I bought the Fender Tre-verb pedal is that I was using the FX loop in my amp, and the reverb in the amp was BEFORE the loop. I prefer delay after pre-amp drive and before reverb, so it had to come from a pedal in the loop.
In addition, the Super Sonic 22 amp I was using has a noisy pre-amp so I wanted a noise gate in the loop. The amp reverb before the loop would get its trails chopped off by the noise gate, so I'd go Loop Out - Modulation - Noise Gate - Delay - Reverb - Trem - Loop In.
Love the video guys! Not only can you put gain stages after the verb, but adding modulation aver verb is really cool as well! A good chorus, flanger, or vibrato modulating the reverb trails sounds amazing.
TPS cooking with ambience ! .... all the reverb people are over there in the large hall.... meanwhile .... all the non reverb people have locked themselves in a small cupboard ...
Hahahahahaha!!
TPS been cooking vegetarian fender style sandwiches, i am still waiting for a big juicy dirt amp burger with lots of fried fuzz/od pedals and a milkshake with modulation pedals to go.
For me, I’d always want the option to control specific parameters so, yes.
It’s nice to have reverb on an amp if you’re having a simple plug in and play day.
But rig attached I’d never use the amp reverb. It’s too far away from my chair. 😂
My exact thoughts. For a little portable plug and play setup I want a built in reverb since I'll probably not run any pedals at all. But for my regular setup I absolutely want more control than an in amp reverb will give. That said, I rarely mess with it. I have it dialed in for just enough to not feel dry and dull. I run the Neunaber Immerse Mk2 and it was worth every penny. I had the MXR and it was good but I felt like it was tougher to dial in. It was also picky about my power supply, which could add to the cost for folks running cheaper ones that are working for them. My whole board is running off a OneSpot right now and perfectly happy. *knocks on wood*
Picked up a Neunaber Illumine recently, having all those sounds available is more inspiring then I thought it would be.
Reverb is possibly the most Important thing after the basic tone of the guitar and amp. It changes everything, you can do a million different things, just with reverb/s. I love it almost as much as these two guys ✌️
For me its delay.
@@0megalul309 it really depends, for cleans I tend to prefer reverb, dirty sounds probably more delay. Let's face we need them all 😂
This show was just missing an EHX Holy Grail Plus on the ‘Flerb’ setting! Great episode guys.
I don’t think anybody has ever willing used that reverb mode
What Mick said about using mild reverbs to sit in the mix - exactly. When I'm playing alone, I basically never use reverb, and I don't especially like playing with it. When I mix a recording, I'll put just a little bit of the same reverb on everything (usually room verb), and then a touch of another reverb on something I want to pop out of the mix (usually a high-passed plate). People *drastically* underestimate how much reverb is in pretty much every mix, and, oh, 80% of it is there not to be heard as such, but as a space-carving implement.
And, of course, the all-time effect on vocals is slapback echo, which is essentially where reverb and delay cross over into each other.
I’ve always liked having 2 reverbs and 2 delays. I use one of the reverbs and one delay very mildly set to improve the room sound then I still have a reverb and a delay I can set as a obvious “effect”
Used to do the same thing! Downsized to two ‘verbs and one delay since I didn’t really miss the subtler one.
Interesting idea - I haven't tried that yet.
I’ve found that a dual pedal like Avalanche Run or the Keeley Caverns can be really good for that use.
I’m just diving in to the heavier delays and verbs. I’ve always got one of each on mildly for my base tone as well. This may be the option I need. Thanks
After a long search I found the Catalinbread Topanga. Lovely reverb that can be subtle or huge and all points in between. It’s the best spring emulation IMO. It replicates all the clang and drip of a real spring tank. Love it.
That pre-delay is so subtle I didn't really understand it playing with my jhs reverb, but hearing it here, it really cleans up the attack. I like it! 🤔
I like having my amp set with a bit of spring and then use a reverb pedal for more ambience!
You guys have the coolest job
Haven't finished the episode yet, but...
Mick's playing starting at 25:55
Wow, just, wow.
Thanks Bryan!
Transit van sounded killer and that playing was everything i love about strats and micks playing
Semi-busy appears to be the genre I’ve been searching for my whole life.
I was given a tc Hall of fame and had only ever used built in reverb before. What a revelation!. Room reverb sounds splendid!
predelay is such a huge thing. It allows you to get as crazy as you want without getting in the way of the transient
Brilliant episode guys.
Yeah, it was annoying that we primarily experienced and encountered reverb within amps, but as you said, Digital Reverb was around in rack formats. I think from 1985 for PA's and home recording there were things like the Yamaha SPX-90.
However, the REX-50 was a guitar based version from 1986 which fitted perfectly on top of an amp, and had the option of MIDI and standard Footswitches.
I've got my original unit and still use it.
As you said, there were other Multi-FX available, especially the BOSS mini rack stuff and it was widely used, well around the Midlands it was anyway. I also sold them.
I just love these guys !
I literally cannot wait to meet both them for next workshop they do finally ! it will be my first time there so I’m dead keen just thought of talking about guitar and gear all day sounds like best day ever.
I’ll make sure to bring my guitar and pedalboard 🤟🤟🤟
I will add the Treverb every now and then. It’s a bit like how we all love adding drive but with Reverb. So as Dan said, more of a good thing.
Treverb is a great sounding pedal, some of my favourite verb and tremolo sounds in one unit.
@@typenjw Reviews are so mixed ive been hesitant to get one
@@typenjw absolutely. It’s all over my ep (see channel for playlist). It was really fun to use it more unconventionally for ambient music. It created an almost flute like toneality.
@@shckltnebay I was a bit the same at first but I jumped in at a great price and it really sounds stellar IMO. The plate and HM trem are well worth it 👍
@@tonybrooks476 sounds great man, definitely twin peaks vibes 😁 spot on using it for ambient style jams, you just get lost, addictive to play.
For me, the spring reverb in my amp is more of an always on, subtle effect. I can definitely see the benefit of having more parameters or flavors.
Mick and Dan: Thanks for your help last time with my pedal noise issue. I got a TrueTone OneSpot CS7 and it seems to have done the trick... mostly... I still get swirly noises in the amp when the MXR Phase 90 is on (in either 200 or 500 mAh plugs), but you were right about the MXR M300 reverb - I put it into a 500 mAh plug and the rest of the noise went away. Thanks so much!
PS: I am so in love with my D&M Drive. What an epic pedal! It's everything I could have wanted for drive and boost, all in one place! Great job!
This is all good news A, thanks for letting us know! And big thanks for buying the D&M - you are contributing directly to keeping us on the air!
By the way, in your Truetone one spot. The ratings on the power output are meaningless. The 500ma output gives you no more or less power than the 100ma output. It's the type of design.
I'm sad to see the Mr Black Supermoon not getting on the board for a demo. For someone who gets a headache looking at pedals with more than about five parameters to twiddle with that was one of the first ambient verbs I could get along with
“Space (around the note), the final frontier…” Princeton Reverb + EQD Dispatch Master is all the splosh I NEED. ‘No reverb, no happy’ t-shirts coming? 🤓
Ah, we should so do that Stuart!
Princeton Reverb + Dispatch Master sounds like match made in heaven
Would 100% buy that shirt
For all the boutique pedal companies out their (and I’ve owned/own a bunch) I’m reminded how good the Boss pedals really are. Simple and well thought-out.
Sometimes reverb doesn't have to work in the mix... like when everybody else gets to have a pint while you noodle for the room. Dan's breathtaking opener--which mortar-and-pestled my soul into a fine powder--is a perfect example. The room gets happy, the band gets happy, and you can let yourself get tangled up in all that glorious resonance.
Loved seeing the pure fun y'all were having messing around with distortion after reverb
I can’t wait to watch this. I recently got rid of pedals (ehx memory man with Hazarai & Keeley Hooke) as I had reverb in my amp (boss katana)
You, me, both
Get... rid of... pedals? WHAT
@@russellfox5332 🤣🤣🤣
IM SO JELLY!!!! YOU LOVELY LADS HAVE ALL THESE PEDALS N AMPS N GUITARS N STUFF, AND YOU GET TO EXPERIMENT TO YOUR HEARTS CONTENT, IN ANY DIRECTION YOU DESIRE, HAVING SO MUCH FUN!!! wich is what it's all about anyway, I AM SOOOOO JELLY!!!!!!! NEVER STOP!!!!!! mitch from Minnesota
Catalainbread has released Topanga Burnside reverb that has tremolo on the reverb trails. Very cool 😎
Still not the Echorec Deluxe
My main amp is a Deluxe Reverb...best reverb in the business as far as I'm concerned. I bought a Catalinbread Topanga to use with my blackface Vibrochamp and realized I could use it with my DR for some extra reverb/depth without walking over and adjusting the amp. Sounds great. Cheers guys!
Yes, yes and yes! Haven't watched it yet, but a reverb is due to be my next purchase and need all the help I can get!
The most amazing use of reverb, for me of course, is in the music "More blues" in the Pink Floyd's MORE album.
Reverb is by far my favorite effect. I play music that normally means I turn the amp reverb off and use pedals.
Spring reverb in an amp just isn’t enough reverb for me.
Go wet/dry and use huge amounts on your wet amp
TGI-TPS-F!! I use a 64 deluxe reverb (handwired) with certainly one of the best reverb sounds around. However, I started using a Catalinbread Topanga as it somehow dealt better with gainier sounds. Endet up using the Free The Tone Ambi Space which is mindblowing. No nonsense, just tone!
you cannot control the length of an amp spring, just the intensity. Thats why you need something that gives air around individual notes. For that you need an early reflection reverb like a Topanga or just a simple very short delay low in the mix. Start with that and add yr amp reverb according to playing situation.
Mick finally bonding with the black strat!
A good sounding reverb can be so inspirational not only for tone, but in the creation of the music itself. I can think of no greater example of this than Devin Townsend. He uses reverb as a compositional tool as well as a large part of his tone; no matter the genre that he finds himself working with. It's a truly wonderful effect. Great episode guys! Thank you for all the hard work.
Thanks for this one! Shout out to the late James Calvin Wilsey, the guitarist who played on the early Chris Isaak album (the only good ones imo). One of my favorite guitar players. Check out his instrumental solo album titled El Dorado. There are a few articles online about his life. Sad story but he was a good dude. He also played bass for the punk bank the Avengers.
TPS lights up my GAS. I love it when Mick gets into the SRV-like chops. And both guys are laughing over Dan's sonic explosions.
Geez, man, Dan plays the most gorgeous chords...
Cheers mate 🤓🙏
Spring reverb is the sound of your guitar reverberating in the acoustic space created by a spacetime-warping wormhole through rock n roll past, present, and future.
Great tones, and a variety of awesome sounding reverbs. I've been using plugin reverbs lately when recording because I find that using the same reverb on multiple instruments helps "glue" the track together and make it sound like one cohesive thing.
Another option not explored (i think) is a very short delay before reverb.
That is not a pre delay. The short delay gives you definition around single notes which then moves into a space w reverb. Best of both worlds imo.
The pre delay option showcased in the video is not the same thing although that is actually useful to separate the delay from the reverb..
The game-changer pedal sounded sounded fantastic
Show idea: wet/dry or stereo rigs using only a multi effects unit for the wet side (HX Effects, Boss GT 1000 Core, etc) and use stand-alone analog dirt pedals on the dry side - this looks like a real space saving idea on the surface but can you get tones that move you?
I run a strymon Flint into a Bigsky and it sounds huge. Not washed out. Still able to hear the notes. DR Z Z28, so no reverb, but when i did have a amp with reverb, I always run 2 reverbs. Always.
I would think the BS could be enough, ive got the Flint
Dan is such a happy..yet mischievous elf with the distortion before/after the reverb…🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏼❤️
Yet another timely episode. I just bought a little verb pedal yesterday. Was inspired by Ariel Posen and one or two others, to look for something that makes some nice noises beyond the reverb on my amps (one of which has proper spring verb). Had to be small enough, and top-mount jacks, to tuck into a corner on an SA250, and be a deliberate mood effect.
That’s freaking awesome! Love this episode. Was really glad to buy the JHS reverb.
Great to have you guys back! The other thing to me about pedal reverb is that, to my ears, spring reverbs can have a sort of non-linear response where they get exponentially louder the harder you hit them, while to my ears the car majority of pedal reverbs have a more linear response (which can give you more reverb when playing more delicately). And I think the siding reverb EQ can be relatively specific...
All my amps have been marshalls or tweeds - no reverbs. I've been through the White Whale, Surfy Bear Compact, Boss RV-500, Boss FRV-1, Carl Martin Headroom, the Monkey Man... None of the above did it for me (the RV-500 sounded good, but too complicated), I still have an RV-6 and a Boing, but the natural reverb in my living room (playing a 57 Champ reissue or Marshall ASC1 Astoria combo) sounds plenty good. BUT, yesterday I set a few pedals up and the amps in stereo coming out of the RV-6. Sounds terrific, even the mono Boing sounds a gazillion times better through the two amps together. Still jonesing for a cheap Victoria Reverberato or a Surfy Bear Classic, and a handwired Princeton Reverb reissue. Oh and the Boing spring emulation into the RV-6 set to a non-spring type stereo 'verb = awesome
I liked the White Whale, but moved it on as the amps I acquired all had spring reverb. I then acquired one without spring reverb and tried out the VanAmps SoleMate Jr which is cool when I want. Never played around with a digital reverb. Maybe it is time to have a play for fun.
Just picked up a 61 Princeton trem no reverb My rig for years has been w/o reverb but have been thinking about a tank
I always like it when you guys get out your respective offsets. Something about them makes both of you play a little differently and it always sounds great.
Great topic guys. Well expained. And, man, that intro playing - Well done Dan!
That was really beautiful.
I have three on my board right now. That’s before the M5 (sorry Mick I know you’re not a fan but it’s a great utility pedal for me) is counted! Can’t live without them.
I'm on a bit of a second honeymoon with my M5 (i assume you mean the line6?). I just built a midi patch controller for it with an automatic expression ramp switch. It can do momentary on/off too so I'm using it a lot more with the band now.
@@alanredversangel nice.
On the rig I have in the TV room I have two M13s and a stereo amp.
@@TheRealcdawg22 Those things are huge!
@@alanredversangel Each one is 15"×12". The whole board is 50"×15". It consists of the 2 M13s (one before the amp, one in the amp's stereo FX Loop), 2 Morley Expression pedals, an Optical Volume, a WL-50 wireless reciever/charger, and some foot switches (All Power On/Off, Drum Machine, Amp Channel Select) I've put into 3 custom enclosures.
The real hero of this weeks show is the Lauren Audio Mustang preamp. Incredible tones from that thing!
the biggest challenge for me is trying to find the one reverb that produces the best harmonic content with my particular tone (or guitar I'm playing that day). I find a lot of spring reverbs sound great with certain guitars of mine and terrible with others, especially when it comes to creating that complimentary harmonic content, that lush velvet goodness that makes you ooze. so for me, having a few reverb pedals is a must in my "tool kit of tones", and ultimately gives me more creative freedom, creates more space to explore that balance of realism and dreamland.
Nothing beats Fender’s tube reverb. You set it how you like it and it becomes part of you tone instead of feeling like another effect.
My favourite reverb pedals will be the Strymon Nightsky and Chase Bliss Dark World
Holy shit. I stopped watching pedal show for ~8 months since Kemper became my new platform. Now I come back to enjoy some of those sweet sweet tones, and I see that Dan got 30 years older! =P
That bloody awesome guys. I really like messing around with reverb, I have a basic cheap behringer DR600, great pedal for its price range, on a room setting, going through the loop in the back of my amp, and that is on its own built in Reverb. On spring..... does give a bolder thickness to the reverb. Thanks again guys.
Damn that Am Original Jaguar is gorgeous sounding
Sometimes I love reverb and others I can't stand it. At the moment I like a bit of ambient wash but I have started experimenting with reverb pedals. Currently I have a Fender Treverb sitting on my board doing double duties.
A very enjoyable episode, although I must be a very boring bugger because for the best and most inspiring sound was the Tone King by itself with the reverb up full!
That's very interesting about the Mark III having two reverb levels - I used to use a Boss FRV -1 up full on top of my amp spring up full in the shoegazey band I was in, kicking the boss in as needed.
Cheers
Kicking the boss in! Springsteen be affeared!
Really neat to see the Collider in the mix! Just got one a few days ago and still digging into it with my mini board, so I'll have to steal some of those settings.
I have a mini tuner, Chase Bliss Preamp, Source Audio Collider, and the Walrus ACS1 all controlled by the Morningstar M6. Pretty crazy having such a compact direct solution with tones and presets this good.
Always appreciate you both and hope you have a good weekend!
So pleased to see the Collider Room reverbgetting kudos. That was an unexpected discovery in the pedal which I love to bits
So many drippy things are needed, nice show lads
Perfect for single coils but would have been nice to hear a Les Paul or 335 in the mix . Great watch .
you guys destroyed it !!! thanks to you all
I learned in recording years ago to mix different reverbs. It sounds less artificial that way. So now I use a HOF plate in front of my amps spring reverb.
Great playing. Love your take on reverb. Keep some on at all times. (Unless your playing where enough occurs naturally) the whole point is to emulate space.
Also when both those amps came on together it felt like a cheat code was unlocked. Amazing stuff guys
I like having reverb on an expression pedal, so I can 'inject' it into the sound as and when, leave the odd note of a solo just hanging in space... generally, I like it dry, all the gain dynamics detailed and focused. But... LOVE the Accutronics in a couple of me amps, love the cheap trashy spring reverb in another, love the beautifully articulate digital reverbs, the cavernous hall... I have quite a few options, but STILL plan to add more horses for my various courses....
Great show as always guys - love how you climb into the corners of the anorak! We all need you...
Stay safe out there! Big Love from the New Forest
Given the subject, I thought this would be a 3h video at least :P ...at the end I wanted more! Great work guys!
Hopefully this show means that the much anticipated "No Reverb, No Happy" t-shirts will finally become a reality.
I used to be an "all the reverb, all the time" kinda player but, maybe 10 years ago, I realized that so many of the tones I loved... "Can't Explain", "All Right Now", etc.... are bone dry. Playing without reverb gives an immediacy and punch to your tone that I just can't bring myself to turn away from now. I do still have the 'verb in my Fenders and a Flint and Plethora on my board should I have the urge (or I decide to do some surf), but now I use it purely as an effect and never as an always-on.
I just recently bought a Princeton and I noticed that I’m not playing with as much reverb as I normally would and I think it’s because the “punchiness” and attack of the 10inch speaker in the Princeton can really be appreciated that much more without loads of reverb. I’ll mainly just throw on a little bit of room and call it a day
I'm probably slow on the uptake, but the facial hair on both you lads is working well. Good job.
Thanks!
I've never been particularly drawn to Jaguars, but that America Original Jag you're playing, Dan, sounds gorgeous. And I wouldn't be in a rush to throw a Mastery bridge on there unless you're going to play really hard. That slightly dead, woody tone is so distinctive and sounds great with the kind of playing you were doing in the intro. Great stuff!
I kind of want to build a board of mostly reverbs. A digital multi-verb into amp spring reverb is killer.
I think he answers why you'd need an external reverb in the first segment by playing that wonderful dreamy stuff.
20:54 - Best part of video. 😎👍🏻
I have reverb built into both my fender amps but I just got the JHS 3 series Hall Reverb and it is glorious.