Gain Stacking With Pedals Makes Your Life Better. (Yes It Does)

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
  • Welcome to That Pedal Show and thanks for watching!
    In this episode, Daniel and Mick discuss what happens when you use two or more overdrive/boost pedals stacked together... into both clean and overdriven amp channels.
    Using an Xotic EP Boost, Keeley Modded Boss BD-2 Blues Driver and JHS Angry Charlie, the guys explain and demonstrate what happens when you use the pedals in different orders, and how the amp's level of overdrive has a fundamental effect on the resultant tone.
    As ever there are no hard-and-fast rules - That Pedal Show is here to help you apply what we discuss to your own pedals and rig to inch ever closer to that sound in your head!
    Daniel is playing his 2002 Gibson Custom 1958 Les Paul Standard. Mick is playing his c2000 Fender American Vintage ’62 Stratocaster. The amp today is a Mesa Boogie Lonestar head and Zilla 1x12 oversize cab with a Celestion G12H-75 Creamback.
    As ever, effects switching is handled effortlessly by TheGigRig G2.
    Thank you for watching and for more on TheGigRig, please visit www.thegigrig.com

Komentáře • 473

  • @markwhitelaw7192
    @markwhitelaw7192 Před 8 lety +130

    I've been playing guitar for about 18 years now semi-pro and have learned more about pedals and gain structure in the last 2 months watching your videos than i have in 18 years. There isn't enough proper education about pedals and pedal usage out there. Great job guys, keep it up!

    • @TheGigRigDaniel
      @TheGigRigDaniel  Před 8 lety +15

      Thanks Mark :)

    • @user-jw2bp5uu8l
      @user-jw2bp5uu8l Před 8 lety +3

      Totally agree. these fellas rock hard and really explain important aspects of how the pedals operate in this video, and I always learn so much from their others videos as well. Really well done.

    • @johngowans2108
      @johngowans2108 Před 6 lety

      Ditto, really like these shows

    • @DustinHaggerty-lj1ix
      @DustinHaggerty-lj1ix Před 6 lety

      Serioulsy. This video among others has made my drri and pedals with strat come ALIVE!. THANK YOU GUS SO MUCH.

    • @dezionlion
      @dezionlion Před 6 lety

      +רון סטלקול
      how do you know how rock hard they are?

  • @darklight4815
    @darklight4815 Před 5 lety +153

    they've got 20 grand worth of gear in the video and they have to share a guitar cable

    • @grahamkelly8299
      @grahamkelly8299 Před 4 lety +2

      😅😅that's funny!!

    • @SrDeMaFp
      @SrDeMaFp Před 4 lety +1

      Hahaha

    • @kingfisher7960
      @kingfisher7960 Před 3 lety +4

      I went through this recently. I have 7 PRS guitars, 3 amps, 42 effect pedals, 4 9v batteries, and no power supply. I wanted to plug a few things in and realized out of all this shit, I have 1 -10' TS cable....bought 2 more....now I have 3 in case Nirvana comes over.

  • @clfurness
    @clfurness Před 4 lety +5

    Love how they run the Blues Driver into the Angry Charlie here only for it to become a Boss/JHS pedal a few years down the line!

    • @grahamkelly8299
      @grahamkelly8299 Před 4 lety

      I thought the ep booster into the angry charlie was better!!

  • @davecarpenter7266
    @davecarpenter7266 Před 5 lety +14

    Dan loves sound. You can see genuine excitement in his face! Thats another reason i like these guys, they mean it. And it shows. Top stuff. World of knowledge.

  • @adriangonciarz
    @adriangonciarz Před 8 lety +5

    Guys, you are THE BEST in the whole internet when it comes to not only demoing but especially EXPLAINING the nature of guitar sounds, thank you for opening my mind and ears!

  • @jackbirkett2642
    @jackbirkett2642 Před 8 lety +19

    Absolutely love these two. I want them to sit with me and my rig for a day, help me make it work 😂

  • @zardeh63
    @zardeh63 Před 3 lety +4

    Fun to watch these old classics once in a while.

  • @billyblunt63
    @billyblunt63 Před 9 lety +2

    This is an excellent demo. Makes you realise how many factors are involved in getting the sound in your head to the actual sound you want to hear. How many of us have great gear but aren't applying it in the right way? Loads I bet especially after watching this. Excellent job, well done Dan & Mick.

  • @joeychamblee6258
    @joeychamblee6258 Před 9 lety +2

    Best gear show around. One of the few that isn't just a commercial!

  • @TonyHookedonVanlife
    @TonyHookedonVanlife Před 8 lety +2

    man, when he punched the EP Boost into the Blues Driver, that Strat just sat up and grabbed you by the... well, ahem! LOL Soooo sweet!

  • @howardlongino2652
    @howardlongino2652 Před 4 lety +2

    This is truly one of the best drive stacking videos out there. I've watched em all it seems, and I continue to come back to this as a reference. Great stuff guys!

  • @BasementShopGuy
    @BasementShopGuy Před 8 lety +4

    When Dan laughs at the Strat at 5:11 - is hilarious!!! Very hoity-toity "British". Loved it...

  • @neatspy
    @neatspy Před 7 lety +3

    I've spent a fortune on pedals since watching these guys! Another great video gents.

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 Před 6 lety

      You and me both. I could open a small pedal shop.

  • @tikitikibamboo
    @tikitikibamboo Před 9 lety +9

    Thanks guys. Your show became a staple in my week really quickly! Keep em coming!

  • @NickBright6
    @NickBright6 Před 9 lety +1

    Thanks for taking the time guys, this exactly what I've been working on lately.
    Informative, entertaining and inspiring all in one package ,plus no annoying ads! Gig rig is a very versatile tool. One day...

  • @faisalzaidin9769
    @faisalzaidin9769 Před 9 lety +1

    Great show from guys who really know their onions! Introduced myself to Mick yesterday at London's Acoustic Exhibition yesterday. Great guy and an awesome musician. Keep it up boys

  • @pmacfto
    @pmacfto Před 9 lety +8

    Isn't it great how gain and feedback can make a grown man giggle :D The Angry Charlie is insane! Great explanation and demo of how different single and humbucker pickups can affect what you get from the amp/pedals. And the gain stacking details is great too.

  • @Alexander-iq5yq
    @Alexander-iq5yq Před 9 lety +124

    Mick holds his guitar like MJ held his baby.

    • @SickMetalAddict
      @SickMetalAddict Před 8 lety +3

      +J583 Please no... Child molestation is not a joke...

    • @tonykplayter8019
      @tonykplayter8019 Před 8 lety +6

      +SickMetalAddict you'd love frankie boyle if you googled him ;)

    • @SickMetalAddict
      @SickMetalAddict Před 8 lety

      tonyk playter Did he commit to it or did he joke about it?

    • @tonykplayter8019
      @tonykplayter8019 Před 8 lety +5

      SickMetalAddict just youtube him for godsake, it actually would of been faster for you to do that than ask me and wait for a reply

    • @SickMetalAddict
      @SickMetalAddict Před 8 lety

      tonyk playter same goes to u xP but yea I read his jokes

  • @Surfandmusicequipmentreviews

    Guys thanks for this -
    i was on the right track however your show will complete that 15% i was missing and in the process you have saved me thousands of hours of tweaking and frustration (and possibly selling my amp!)
    My ears had already led me to :
    1) Realising my overdrive pedals played best with this amp on very low gain settings
    2) Stacking my overdrives in correct gain stages (low - medium and high)
    3) Realising that a tubescreamer is great for boosting INTO the other pedals to cut through for solos
    4) Realising that recording your sounds as you stack overdrives ad mess about with your tone is an excellent idea as you finally reach a point where you are not hearing the slight tonal changes that each pedal adds to the equation
    5) Realising that speakers make a WORLD of difference to everything ! I have just added a WGS invader 50 (greenback clone with higher wattage) to my 2x12 cab and this speaker breaks up much faster than my Celestion Vintage 30 or the Celestion Creamback g12 65 - i use in my 1x12 - once you change out a speaker it changes the dynmamics of all your dsettings again!
    HOWEVER after watching this video I have realised i was: Primarily using my amp on its gain channels (albeit with very low gain levels)
    Thus due to the amps natural compression on these channels my sound was collapsing when pushed too hard and more importantly when i was stepping on my RC booster pedal to solo - i was simply not cutting through the mix! I have had a COMPLETE BLINDSPOT regarding using the clean channel of the amp for pedals, as like Mick says, i keep thinking whats the point of owning a 12 channell valve amp if you don't use them!
    I now understand why stacking overdrives works so well on the clean channel - HEADROOM to be stacked - makes complete sense! You are not simply compressing the sound more and more to the point where you simply dissapear in the mix! Also makes sense now why the bass just becomes so flubby that it sounds terrible!
    Lst point to
    My angry charlie arrives tomorrow so ill be trying different stacking options with my
    RC booster,
    spark mini booster,
    Blues driver
    OCD
    Im also going to add my EQ pedal back into the loop to tighten up the bass frequencies if required.
    LOTS MORE TWEAKING but i'm getting there with my tonal search!!
    Thanks for a great show - you guys rock!

  • @AlexSoutheyMusic
    @AlexSoutheyMusic Před 2 lety +3

    wow love seeing this early episode of That Pedal Show!

  • @jorgetenamusic
    @jorgetenamusic Před 8 lety +1

    Absolutely love your videos from day one! I learn a lot and enjoy how you get along with each other. Laugh and learn, the best combination!

  • @stuartnarduzzo4868
    @stuartnarduzzo4868 Před 9 lety +1

    Another great episode gents! My most fave thing to do on a Friday morning is watch that pedal show!! Keep up the great work! :)

  • @ezer0923
    @ezer0923 Před 8 lety +9

    I want an EP booster because of watching this

  • @geometrichorsehair6972
    @geometrichorsehair6972 Před 6 lety +1

    You provide well-made videos with extensive infos and lovely sounds. Thanks

  • @MrUltraworld
    @MrUltraworld Před 8 lety +27

    That EP Booster really wakes up a Strat.

  • @superbeast3000
    @superbeast3000 Před 9 lety

    I think this is one of your better episodes, I really like when you guys cover subjects about how pedals interact with one another and ways to improve your rig based on some of those idiosyncracies.

  • @mickbrenton
    @mickbrenton Před 7 lety

    I've been stacking drive pedals for 35 years and I approve of this video!! Lol. Well explained and demonstrated! The only things I dare to add is that you don't drive your gain and output level too hard on each unit and have your more transient sounding pedals closer to the amp and also reiterate what young matey on the right said which is to use your guitar volume control and you can scan through the spectrum of super blown to squeaking clean tones!

  • @grega1207
    @grega1207 Před 5 lety +1

    24:17 "just for shits and giggles...." Cracked me up! Love the show and all the good info. Thanks.

  • @richardharvey3630
    @richardharvey3630 Před 9 lety +2

    Thanks guys! This show and the one on equalizer pedals are my favorites so far. Something you touched on a bit in this show, that I would love to hear more about, is using multiple guitars going through the same rig. What are some strategies for playing different guitars through the same rig without having to change the settings on one's amp, overdrive, distortion and fuzz pedals every time you switch guitars? I'm guessing you guys have already thought of this as a topic for a future show. :)

  • @rtobias2013
    @rtobias2013 Před 3 lety

    Dude turned into a different guitar player with the Boost after the distortion at 40:30 lol. This is how I have mine set up and I love it.

  • @arictm114
    @arictm114 Před rokem +1

    8:38 Imagine having a dad who when you shred makes those faces. I'd be one happy kid.

  • @benbutterworth7584
    @benbutterworth7584 Před 9 lety +2

    Great show. Interestingly, David Grissom I believe cranks his master volume up all the way and adjusts the preamp. He has great tone - as did you two here. Sounded great.

  • @JensLarsen
    @JensLarsen Před 9 lety +15

    Nice videos guys! I am learning a lot and getting a lot of ideas for how to setup up tones!
    Thank you!!

    • @TheGigRigDaniel
      @TheGigRigDaniel  Před 9 lety +3

      +Jens Larsen Cheers Jens ;)

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen Před 9 lety +3

      I have to check some more of your videos, but I might return with a few questions :) I really like the fact that you explain the impact of different guitars and amps and how they work with the pedals. This is always overlooked!

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      @zaidbenson3932 Před 3 lety

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  • @MrMeiryou
    @MrMeiryou Před 7 lety

    When you use multiple gains : the goal is to amplify the signal coming from your guitar and not the noise coming from the pedals. A good way to do that is to use a very noiseless amplifier first, so that the sound from your guitar becomes amplified enough to emerge from the other layers of noise. Pushing the drive very high on a single pedal will add a lot of dirt, so it would be better to have your guitar's signal amplified beforehand so that dirt doesn't drown your tone (what happens when sound is produced even though you don't play). I'm amazed at how you manage to make interesting reviews and explanations without actually digging into the science of it. I'm a pedal lover and I like your videos a lot.

  • @Danocaster214
    @Danocaster214 Před 9 lety

    I own a Mesa express 5:50 and can I say, thank you!! I play with some PAF humbuckers and have found pretty much the exact thing Mick was talking about. It gets middly and punchy very quickly, especially with any mid-humped overdrive. So in essence, this video is directly applicable to my gear situation at the moment and offers me some insight onto what I need to do. So again, thanks! You guys rock.

  • @danabnormal5892
    @danabnormal5892 Před 5 lety +1

    This is a great episode to revisit. I’ve just discovered that my EP booster into my boss OD-3 into my blues cube is fantastic

  • @timfender0740
    @timfender0740 Před 9 lety +11

    Been waiting for this all morning! Killer guys you make my Fridays just that much better!

    • @metelegerald
      @metelegerald Před 9 lety

      Mine too :)

    • @PhiI93
      @PhiI93 Před 9 lety +2

      +timfender0740 Same! This is the exact subject I was hoping they would cover as I've started stacking pedals and have little experience with it. And you just know it's gonna be helpful and accessible. Oh this is gonna be good!

  • @PaulGrahamGuitarst
    @PaulGrahamGuitarst Před 9 lety

    Very valid points in this video.Its great to see guitarists are still into pedals as apposed to effects consoles. Having a range of gain levels and tonal possibilities at your disposal is great, gain stacking with a couple of pedals is a great way to achieve just that.

  • @MrDT543
    @MrDT543 Před 8 lety +1

    EP Boost + a strat is the perfect combination. I love mine so much.

  • @mrshiney2
    @mrshiney2 Před 7 lety

    I am getting ready to introduce my good friend into this style of pedal gain stacking on his 50 watt EVH which luckily has a very clean, clean channel with lots of headroom. and yes then also setting the other drive channels a stand alone ( no boost pedals) alternate sound

  • @calebriley7466
    @calebriley7466 Před 4 lety +1

    You guys should create a curriculum and create a school;D I feel like I learn so much. I immediately apply what you guys do with my own gear and can really create a sound I like applying your knowledge! = Perfect class

  • @JIMJAMSC
    @JIMJAMSC Před 8 lety +3

    I have accumulated well over 50+ pedals mostly overdrives,probably $500 in high end patch cords,multiple pedal loopers. It so fun to just mix n match. But more often than not you end up with the basics. Like liquor mixing more than 3 taste like crap.

    • @hoboroadie4623
      @hoboroadie4623 Před 2 lety

      I have trouble with more than two, but yeah. My solution has been to split up the signal and run different stuff in parallel, and I even split the clean channel so that I can pan two amps with a Tremolo. Girth above Gain.

  • @harrymorris9406
    @harrymorris9406 Před 8 lety +19

    "Little bit if gain there" :D

  • @MivarWagner
    @MivarWagner Před 7 lety +1

    You are real forerunners of the "angry diver". Thanks to exist

  • @GK-mm3nz
    @GK-mm3nz Před 9 lety +2

    Great show as always guys. Thanks for putting in the effort. Keep em coming!

  • @boe466
    @boe466 Před 7 lety +2

    big muff into a timmy into a fender amp is still probably my favourite
    "gain stacking" combination. It totally fixes the big muff from getting
    completely lost in the mix.

    • @mikeplaysguitar36
      @mikeplaysguitar36 Před 6 lety

      M Fb I like stacking a TS808 into a Big Muff for that result.

    • @mikeplaysguitar36
      @mikeplaysguitar36 Před 6 lety

      And also placing an EQ with a mid hump shape after the Muff

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 Před 6 lety

      I love a Muff into a Power Booster into a dual amp rig (Bassbreaker15 & Tweed Blues Jnr). Yuge!

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 Před 6 lety

      Sometimes I got TS9>Muff>Power Booster.

  • @boozoochavis7506
    @boozoochavis7506 Před 6 lety

    This is great for those of us that grew up in the pre-Boogie era in the US because used Fenders were everywhere. The fact that gain stacking pedals would have made life easier might have not sold so many of those Mesa Boogie amps. They sound great for so many things but it is still hard to beat an old Fender of most kinds for a straight clean tone!!

  • @unityenterpriseworshipdemo7358

    Awesome information guys. Keep up the great work. I've learned so much from your videos.

  • @benhoodmusic2283
    @benhoodmusic2283 Před 9 lety

    I can't express my love for these videos, I'm been ill stuck in bed for the last 4 days and these have saved me. Keep them coming guys! Very inspiring, informative and entertaining. P.s i need that Angry Charlie in my life!

  • @herrlogi
    @herrlogi Před 9 lety +1

    Man your video's are the ultimate way to know the intricacies without having a huge budget or acces to gear

  • @synyster_nate
    @synyster_nate Před 2 lety

    Les Paul into a mkiii boogie is my everything 🤘🏼

  • @gregclarkreasons
    @gregclarkreasons Před 8 lety

    That tone in the very beginning.. glorious!!

  • @powdermnky007
    @powdermnky007 Před 7 lety +3

    45:06 - power amp question here if you have the time. I have an amp that everyone says "sounds the best with the master volume past 1:00" My question is this: what exactly is the defining factor in getting 'that sound' is it the position of the volume knob, or the volume of the sound coming out of the speakers.
    Scenario 1: volume knob 1:00 with only a guitar plugged in. 110 db
    Scenario 2: volume knob 1:00 with a volume pedal turned down 95db
    Scenario 3: volume knob 9:00 with a cranked ep booster 120 db
    Will scenario 2 sound good, since 'the volume knob is at 1:00 even though the volume is quiet? Would it make the 'magic sound' even at a low volume for bedroom playing? Will scenario 3 sound good, because the volume knob is below the optimal position even though the output is louder?
    I guess it boils down to this: How can you really tell how hard your power tubes are working? Is the volume, or the knob position the most critical factor? If you read all of this, Thank you.... really!

    • @JohnShalamskas
      @JohnShalamskas Před 6 lety +1

      "Sounds good" means different things to different people. But once you are running the power amp beyond the linear gain region, the power tubes start to compress the dynamic range, and start giving some harmonic distortion products. In a tube amp, the harmonic distortion tends to be even order harmonics, which add up to a sine wave and sounds relatively sweet (for distortion) and mid-heavy. Other things can add their own flavor of distortion as they go non-linear, like the output transformer that matches the impedance of the plates (anodes) on the tubes to the speakers. So, in answer to your question, as you turn up the volume knob, you will start hearing changes in the tone as the power amp starts reaching non-linearity. It will sound "fatter" and compressed. You can get this effect without the huge volume levels by using an attenuator (also called a power soak) to siphon off some percentage of the power from the speakers. Some amps (like my Hughes and Kettner TubeMeister 18) can give multiple levels of output attenuation, up to 100% - no audio gets to the speakers, but I can run a line level signal out to a clean amp (like a home theater amp or powered speakers) or mixer board.

  • @_PJC_
    @_PJC_ Před 8 lety

    Gentlemen, as i watch more and more of your videos - which are fab - my knowledge is increasing fantastically so thank you. I should also state that I used to have 2 pedals , a very old Yamaha MIJ distortion which has its moments bgut isnt amazing and an "interesting" 1990's MIJ zoom multi thingy, but since starting to watch your channel in the last few months I now have 10+ and I'm not sure i'm saying thanks or help now!. anyway - The point Mick makes here near the end about clean + pedals is hitting home for me as my tube amp is an old Selmer PA 100 (cleared out of a Bingo hall by my father in the 80's - and i found it in the garage in '98!! - amazing) . anyway it only has one colour on all six channels and none of them dirty!!! When the channel gain up it's still super clean but can get just a little bit cooked. So to get it properly over the hill i use a boost , cheap little EH LPB-1 and then use an overdrive when needed to get really dirty. great video as usual gents and Mick - dont let him laugh at your strat about not being fat enough, it sounds fantastic.

  • @timwhite5562
    @timwhite5562 Před 2 lety

    Going between the clean channel and overdrive channel is why I never sold my Tim OD. Being able to use it with the gain on the Tim down low as a boost, and the gain boost for the Tim to make it sound like a Timmy when using it as an overdrive is worth the added size of the enclosure. Although I do wish it wasn't so damn tall. I use to have a Pedaltrain with a hardshell case made it so I had to take the Tim off and carry it separate.

  • @ChristianPaulDelage
    @ChristianPaulDelage Před 5 lety +4

    18:47 The yet to be born, amazing, JB-2 Angry Driver! Did Josh Scott watch this episode?

  • @Samodnar
    @Samodnar Před 7 lety +50

    18:40 . Stacking a Blues Driver with an Angry Charlie? Pfft that'll never catch on. ;)

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 Před 6 lety

      LOL

    • @noisesoundtonevibe
      @noisesoundtonevibe Před 6 lety +5

      Humor. BOSS and JHS collaborated to make the Angry Driver, which combines the JHS Angry Charlie and the BOSS Blues Driver. So Dan and Mick did Something here that did catch on.

    • @cleftturnip7774
      @cleftturnip7774 Před 6 lety +5

      noisesoundtonevibe i think that's what the original comment was getting at.

    • @gooby1648
      @gooby1648 Před 5 lety

      @@cleftturnip7774 r/wooosh

    • @XIIMonkeysMusicGroup
      @XIIMonkeysMusicGroup Před 5 lety

      Lol!

  • @charlesb7831
    @charlesb7831 Před 4 lety

    I'm a little bit late on finding this, but I've been playing for 25years or so now, not a phenomenal player just enjoy playing these days. I just reorganized my pedal board. Now I run a stereo amp set up, a Carvin X50B with 4x12 cab and a Marshall jcm800 combo. I use the Earthquaker swiss things pedal to organize my board and because of that I can run a boost before or after my Overdrive pedal. The Earthquaker has a built in 20db adjustable boost . I run a Ibanez Nu-tube screamer in front of my MXR Zakk Wylde overdrive. It's a huge sounding set up. I also run an old ART sge effects processor through the effects loop on the Carvin. Everything is powered by my Art power conditioner, pedals are powered from a MXR power brick. Love using the gain stacking on this set up!

  • @Evilivo666
    @Evilivo666 Před 9 lety

    I'm using an mxr micro amp plus on top of two ts9 for monthes.and i love the diversity that it gaves to my sound. great video as usual guys. my favourite youtube channel.

  • @goosegander1647
    @goosegander1647 Před 6 lety

    Fantastic video, explained so much, about pedal stacking and why a pedal can sound and behave so differently based on the guitar and amp it's matched with. Keep it up!

  • @hoosierdaddy2308
    @hoosierdaddy2308 Před 8 lety

    Outstanding demo.
    I've been playing guitar on and off as a hobby for over 35 years. I have played in a couple bands. I'm currently playing a 1 x 12 Marshall, and Ibanez S series with humbuckers and a Charvel with a hum in bridge and single in the neck, and I have a guitar I made which is a LP with glued in neck, 50's style slab mahogany body and maple neck with maple fretboard and just one humbucker.
    I will soon be playing with some friends at a local pub where they just meet and jam, and I want to get more control over the overdrive especially. This is an excellent demo because it helped with the order of the pedals.
    I'll be playing thru my Marshall AVT 150 valvestate made in the UK. But, I'll be using it with the clean channel because I don't have the channel switching pedal, and I normally just turn down with volume to get clean sounds, but I love the clean channel and now can use a couple or three pedals like you are in this demo with the clean channel.
    The only other pedals I'll be using will be a Wah / Morley wah, and maybe a delay pedal. I used to have clean and gain, but now can mix and match and get in between sounds too which will be much easier with pedals.
    I'm probably going to use the boss blues pedal, a booster from tc electronics and maybe a plexi pedal from Tech 21 since I love the sound of the plexi.
    Thanks so much. Going to check out your other demo's.
    Regards from IN USA.
    Tim

  • @lance134679
    @lance134679 Před 9 lety

    You guys really do a deep dive on these subjects. I like it.

  • @JamesRussoMillas
    @JamesRussoMillas Před 8 lety

    It's amazing how much the drive channel on the Boogie and the Angry Charlie sound so similar. My answer to Any Timmon's tone is answered!

  • @timwhite5562
    @timwhite5562 Před 2 lety

    I've jumped around pedal order 1000 times over the last decade or so. With Strats I've always had compressor (OTA)*/Tube Screamer-esq OD/ Triangle or Ram's head Big Muff/ EQ (to shaped what's coming out of the guitar, unless I'm using the Muff)/ lighter OD like a Timmy or Klon KTR/ then any AIAB drives/ Preamps/ Tape echo emulator into the input.
    The loop would have modulation/delay/Reverb/second EQ. The EQ I typically used more for a volume control: I'd set my gain where I wanted, the Master Volume to the sweet spot then use the EQ almost like a Master Volume for everything BEFORE they output section.
    After years I eventually ended up using a Marshall Silver Jubilee and Dumble clone, at which point I discovered that unbeknownst to me, all of those pedals that I was using were ultimately in the effort to get the tone that those 2 amps were providing.
    After then it kind of had me reverse everything. Boosts and lower gain overdrives were at the end, going from higher gain down to clean boosts, all to what the amps did, then getting progressively higher gain the closer they came to the guitar. The only things that stayed were the first EQ and the Muff. I use the Muff with midrange either after if I wanted a David Gilmore or Eric Johnson lead tone with my Strat, or going into it to give me a "Marshall Stack with everything at 10." Though to be honest, with the midrange goosing the front end of the Muff, if I were to tell you it was a Les Paul into a Marshall you'd have no reason to doubt it, as opposed to aStrat with vintage output pickups.
    *I've always OTA comps, like a Keeley or Dyna Comp more as a clean boost/fattener with my Strat into a clean or cleanish amp, and FET or optical for actual compression, like that squishy chord work or to even out everything.
    Tip: with higher wattage amps, if you want to be able to play it at lower volumes, using it in conjunction with the EQ as I described how I used it in the loop can REALLY give it that realistic full sounding tone you get when you have the master volume up, but with it rolled down. This works better with an FET or optical, but you can get it pretty close with one of the newer type OTA comps that have a wet/dry blend like an Ego press, Compressor plus, etc. You'll want to use it at the end of the chain either before or after the loop EQ (depends on the rig).

  • @ThePowersThatBeef
    @ThePowersThatBeef Před 9 lety +3

    The set looks great! Nice vid as always.

  • @bazmcgrath2994
    @bazmcgrath2994 Před 8 lety

    Yet another fantastic video! Enough detail but without waffling on!

  • @ocelotl23
    @ocelotl23 Před 9 lety +5

    Could you make a video about buffers? It placement and how interact with wahs and fuzz? Awesome show guys, I really love all the information! keep it up, greetings from Mexico!

    • @TheGigRigDaniel
      @TheGigRigDaniel  Před 9 lety +3

      +javier gallegos HI Javier, yes, we have a video on buffers planned ;)

    • @ocelotl23
      @ocelotl23 Před 9 lety +1

      Daniel TheGigRig great! you guys are the best!

  • @raphael_vierlinger
    @raphael_vierlinger Před 8 lety +1

    Strat into Tubescreamer set to unity volume with the gain all off going into another tubescreamer set to gain at 12 o clock and level at 2 o clock into a rather mid scooped amp works wonders for me ;)

  • @FKnoph
    @FKnoph Před 9 lety

    Hi guys! I just discovered your channel a few weeks ago, and I'm doing my best to catch up with all your great videos! This one was particularly interesting, but I have learned so much from your previous videos, too! Can't wait for the next one!

  • @GeorgeFN
    @GeorgeFN Před 5 lety +1

    And here I am watching this again for about the 4th time...

  • @richab88
    @richab88 Před 9 lety +1

    Great Info! Really enjoying this series.I know there's a ton of material to cover, but I'd like to see a comparison of Vibe pedals and how their characteristics change based on pedal order. Thanks!

  • @satch4u3
    @satch4u3 Před 9 lety

    I love all this geeking out on gear. Keep it comin fellas!

  • @jacehughes8288
    @jacehughes8288 Před 9 lety

    You guy's should try a show on "amp" like or " on all the time" pedals that clean up well with the volume pot for clean sounds like the COT50 or SD9. Subtle break up world with the volume pot. Love the show, I eat my lunch here at the shop every Friday and learn something.

  • @Jayhawk720
    @Jayhawk720 Před rokem +1

    Great stuff lads.lots to think about here. One of my favourite episodes.
    Just one thing I want to know is how is the buffer in the Blues Driver affecting the other two pedals ?I have a J Rockett Archer pedal which has a buffer in it and I have to be aware where I place it in my pedal chain,especially next to my fuzz pedal.

  • @NoCoverCharge
    @NoCoverCharge Před 5 lety

    i didn't know lamps were classy...always learn something with these guys.........lol

  • @Widdy5150
    @Widdy5150 Před 9 lety

    My next purchases are ep boost/blues driver waza and angry charlie thanks to this video!!
    please keep up the fantastic job guys 👍

    • @Widdy5150
      @Widdy5150 Před 9 lety

      Any thoughts how they would sound though a blackstar series one 50w head on clean channel?

  • @ishancooper
    @ishancooper Před 8 lety

    Another great video fellas!!
    Nice to hear all the differences with both guitars and amp sounds.
    Using clean amps, I've been running my clean boost after my fuzz and drive, but before my Rat for a long time. Seems to work 👌🏼

  • @LiberaLib
    @LiberaLib Před 8 lety +7

    These guys should play a song with a full band occasionally, if they haven't.

    • @swampscott2670
      @swampscott2670 Před 8 lety +4

      +LiberaLib Yep, would be nice to know how all this actually sounds in the mix. That can be eye-opening.

  • @davidhunter3762
    @davidhunter3762 Před 9 lety +2

    One of the best you've done Daniel and Mick, very informative!! I need to watch it 2 or 3 times to absorb everything but especially the clean amp with gain stacking, which is how I like to set things up............but not quite as successfully as you two :-)

  • @NJSonye
    @NJSonye Před 8 lety

    Also the Lone Star Ch 2 can bypass the "drive" section. Also there is another gain stage from the efx loop too. Yes, you brought up a very good point bring in Andy Timmons. He helped me better define the Drive Channel. It is very doable to use one pedal for the clean channel "a Mesa Fluxdrive" on the clean Channel and set at 100w and have the drive channel at 50 watts now you can hit the front end and the hit the power amp section too. This makes amps like a Lone Star very functional. It is easy for me to have 4 different amps with a Lone Star - as you said it's understanding "gain staging" -- Now on occasion (with ear plugs too) I've just about "dimed" the amp - and OMG! It is a completely different amp. BTW you can of course run EL43s and 6V6S in al Lone Star.-- You could do a couple of shows on amps like a Lone Star where you have amps with 2 complete sets of tone controls. Remember on a Mesa the Gain & Treble are very interactive -

  • @ZeligTheAxMan
    @ZeligTheAxMan Před 8 lety +1

    4:21 just got the chills!

  • @AndreTenenbaum1972
    @AndreTenenbaum1972 Před 8 lety

    Great Video guys.. I've found out that my Blues Jr III works a lot better with the Volume (Gain) on minimum and the Master (volume) as loud as I can stand on the jam or gig. I have a lot more control. I wish you guys could do some of this great experiences using a Blues Junior as its probably what most of us have. Cheers and keep the great work rolling.

  • @sseltrek1a2b
    @sseltrek1a2b Před 8 lety

    most helpful and entertaining vids of this type i've seen on line.....nice...

    • @TheGigRigDaniel
      @TheGigRigDaniel  Před 8 lety

      +steve selinsky cheers Steve, make sure you check out the new channel :)

  • @mbvglider
    @mbvglider Před 8 lety +1

    Great video! I use three gain pedals on my board going into a slightly broken up clean channel: TC Spark Mini my "clean" boost, MXR M75 Super Badass Distortion as my high gain drive, and Boss OD-3 as my overdrive, in that order. The point of the Spark Mini is to saturate whatever channel or pedal I'm using for gain, and it also adds a little treble (spark!). The OD-3 is set for high volume and low drive, but it adds a bit of lovely crunch and definition that helps cut through. It's probably my favorite dirt pedal ever. It's also what I use during solos. I use the M75 to get a smooth distortion, so I usually don't have it that loud, meaning I use the OD-3 together if I want it to be loud and driven. If I just use the M75 without the OD-3, usually it's not that loud. The Spark Mini is sort of the glue that makes everything work together. Between that and my pickup switches, I have everything I need. I have only six pedals on my board (excluding tuner), and three of them are gain.

  • @mattchilled
    @mattchilled Před 8 lety

    Liked to see different dual channel overdrives/distortions & the pros & cons.
    Fuzz pedals - difference between tone benders, fuzz faces, Big Muffs etc
    Already covered slightly, but where best to put various types of pedals in a signal chain to get the best results.
    True bypass or buffer - is there a lot of difference?
    Analog vs Digital pedals.
    Cheers guys really liked the videos you've done so far - keep them coming!!

  • @TheNorthAmericanGuitar

    Yes! Gain Stacking is the way forward!

  • @strattac2264
    @strattac2264 Před 8 lety

    Would be great to show how different the same set up would sound between players, just passing the same guitar back and forth to show the difference in the sound because of the player's technique. Great show

  • @moo3992
    @moo3992 Před 3 lety +1

    Great show!

  • @vKarl71
    @vKarl71 Před 6 lety +4

    Has there ever been an amp or pedal review that doesn't contain the phrase "clean up beautifully" ??

  • @thesearethesuns
    @thesearethesuns Před 6 lety

    I’m learning so much from you guys. Thank you both so much!

  • @kosmicwizard
    @kosmicwizard Před 4 lety +1

    It would be nice to know how you have the dip switches set on the ep booster, so we can better judge what is actually happening when it goes through the angry Charlie.

  • @jackk9366
    @jackk9366 Před 6 lety

    I run a treble boost into the Earthquaker Bellows as a lead boost to combat the huge low end of the bellows.

  • @1906lele
    @1906lele Před 9 lety

    this is the best youtube channel guys. I miss the Telecaster...

  • @tomatik4032
    @tomatik4032 Před 9 lety

    I really enjoy your videos! Please keep up the great work. This is a wonderfully informative series.

  • @cmartinrel
    @cmartinrel Před 8 lety +1

    The Angry Charlie is fantastic.

  • @headslapping100
    @headslapping100 Před 6 lety +2

    2 sheds ago and passing the guitar lead to each other. 2016 seems a lifetime away

  • @brianpatrick6102
    @brianpatrick6102 Před 9 lety +2

    You touched on a very good point here early on: The way a "sweetly compressing" amp reacts more favorably to different instruments. This would be a good topic to delve more deeply into, along with other variables to the same effect. One thing Ive become painfully aware of is the vast differences in how bedroom and stage volumes affect your tone. Also, how very different amp and cab tones differ from emulated outputs and line level direct recording pedals/devices such as the Two Notes Torpedo C.A.B. or the Tech 21 Character series pedals, especially where effect pedals are concerned. Dirt pedals in particular. I could go on and on, but Ill stop there ;) Thanks.

  • @VERBANDTREM
    @VERBANDTREM Před 9 lety

    great as always! can't wait for the next instalment.

  • @lu-banger
    @lu-banger Před 8 lety +7

    Great video! I saw it at least 4 times already :) I recently purchased Mesa Boogie Mark V 25 but I do not have a speaker cabinet yet. So I got this idea that maybe you guys could try to shot some video with heads and cabinets to see how it works.. I can imagine that it can be a really time consumig to do that, but.. Maybe my prayers will be heard :)
    Cheers!

    • @TheGigRigDaniel
      @TheGigRigDaniel  Před 8 lety +2

      Yes, working on it :)

    • @lu-banger
      @lu-banger Před 8 lety

      +Daniel TheGigRig Oh man!!! Thanks! Can't wait to see it! Take care :)

    • @themariokartlick
      @themariokartlick Před 8 lety

      +Ľubo Ivan Since it's been two months you've probably already gotten a cab, but if you haven't I'd look into the ported closed back 1x12 with the C90. It sounds amazing on every mode of the 5:25

  • @alguitarchristie
    @alguitarchristie Před 8 lety +2

    Great video as always guys :0) I use the clean channel with the EP Booster on all the time because it gives the clean sound a bit of girth. For boosting for solos i use the custom audio MC 401, which is an amazing clean boost, which you can put before or after the distortion/Overdrive pedals and it doesn't colour the sound at all, you should check it out :)