Taming Crosswinds in a Taildragger, a Few simple Tricks...

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  • čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
  • Crosswinds can be a handful in airplane, but in a Tauildragger they can really propose a challenge. Here's a few simple tricks/techniques to help keep you straight down the runway during a crosswind Landing.

Komentáře • 69

  • @VictoryAviation
    @VictoryAviation Před 9 měsíci +7

    When I was building all my commercial hours, I would purposely pick the crosswind runway as long as it didn’t interfere with other pilots. No reason to pick the easy runway as long as it wasn’t dangerous.

  • @clipwingcub
    @clipwingcub Před 9 měsíci +6

    Great tutorial! You are really brave to share your knowledge with the rest of us. Many times I feel there is a master in every tailwheel pilot, and he only knows how to do it right! Thanks.

  • @michaelbohlander8392
    @michaelbohlander8392 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Same technique applies in most airplanes. Really important discussion well done.

  • @AnthonyMartinez
    @AnthonyMartinez Před 9 měsíci +4

    When I got my tailwheel endorsement my instructor had me practice staying on just the upwind main way down the runway on both takeoff and landing rolls in stiff crosswinds. Really helped illustrate the importance and benefits of keeping a proper crosswind correction. I had a habit of letting go of the correction towards the end of the landing roll out at low speeds before exiting on to the taxiway. She fixed that by sharply asking me if I thought we were parked at the hangar yet a few times. Got it: fly it till we’re parked.

    • @Bananasssssssss
      @Bananasssssssss  Před 9 měsíci +1

      I forgot to mention that but that's a GREAT GREAT training exercise

    • @AnthonyMartinez
      @AnthonyMartinez Před 9 měsíci

      @@Bananasssssssss it really was excellent training. I still practice it any time I'm in a tailwheel plane.

  • @Coops777
    @Coops777 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Thanks Joe. Another video masterpiece. This is such an important topic, especially students who have recently gone solo, mastering into-the-wind landings in the taildragger (cub in our case) but yet to fully develop the slipping skills required for crosswind landings. There is a video on YT of a student flying a Legend Cub who attempts a go around from a half ground loop (due to a strong crosswind) and pretty much cart wheels the aircraft. I believe they were ok after. So important as we may not always have a choice of runways at the end of a journey.

    • @Bananasssssssss
      @Bananasssssssss  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Yeah that video was an eye opener when I first started flying the Cub.

  • @mattgeerts1466
    @mattgeerts1466 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Youre doing Chief videos!? Im so excited! 1948 Aeronca Chief C-GQGT C85 stroker 100hp, no electrics.

    • @Bananasssssssss
      @Bananasssssssss  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Niceee!! Yeah we bought a ‘39 Chief! with the up exhaust A-65 no electric 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @birds_eye_view
    @birds_eye_view Před 4 měsíci +3

    Good advices. And nice camera angles. As you told, landing in a crosswind and having too much aileron, happened to me too. About 15kt cross, gusting 18. After one failed attempt already, where the wind simply blew us off the centerline even before touching the ground, this time touched down nicely on the upwind wheel, but put in too much aileron, so tilted her even further to the wind. Unfortunately my kinda scared reaction was to throw the stick all the way to the other side. 😮👀 Can tell you, that is NOT a good idea. Of course the wind got us instantly and I panicked back with the aileron just in time and some serious tilting left right of my J3. Just a heartbeat away from another go-around. But she settled and I could find my way back to the centerline and some deep breaths. 🫣

    • @johnlucas2037
      @johnlucas2037 Před 5 dny

      I did something similar… got lazy on the ailerons and the wind picked up my wing and I ended up running off the runway into a pile of dirt… 😂

    • @birds_eye_view
      @birds_eye_view Před 4 dny

      @@johnlucas2037 ouch 🤕

    • @Bananasssssssss
      @Bananasssssssss  Před 4 dny

      Meh, we’ve all been there! Lol. Live to fly another day 😂

  • @kam1583
    @kam1583 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I was learning in a champ, and nearly tore the gear off of a 172 in a brisk cross wind trying to crab it down to the runway at night at Lancaster, Pa a loong time ago. Great video, thanks!

  • @andrewlongman8288
    @andrewlongman8288 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Thanks Joe just needed to reaffirm these techniques. Only just received my TW end. G’day from Sydney

  • @MSchwartzNWV
    @MSchwartzNWV Před 4 měsíci +1

    I really appreciate the camera angle inside the cub and seeing what you're doing with the stick and rudder pedals. Thank-you for sharing a fine video and your expertise.

  • @talldrumgirl
    @talldrumgirl Před 8 měsíci +2

    Great vids! It is a shame it has gotten so hard to find primary instruction opportunities in these seriously satisfying aircraft, I know many pilots who avoid tw because
    Insurance companies discourage it. IFR training and flight is seriously demanding but ultimately doesn't deliver on the beauty of flight that one gets from say
    watching a flock of 500 migratory birds swirl in harmony 300 feet below. Thanks ever so much for the pedagogy vids. The shots of xwind control use are worth
    frequent review.
    Regards and keep it up. Love the J3.

  • @oldglory1944
    @oldglory1944 Před měsícem +2

    Ailerons rule because they are largest control & horizontal to the relative wind.
    Close to, or on the runway, simply, maintain ailerons PROPORTIONALLY OPPOSITE the applied rudder.
    Adverse YAW will supplement the stalling wee rudder.
    Tail winds to all. 60 yr CFI

  • @thurstonsteen3665
    @thurstonsteen3665 Před 9 měsíci +1

    probably best x-wind demo vid, keep those videos coming joe

  • @elmoreglidingclub3030
    @elmoreglidingclub3030 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Maybe your most helpful video. Definitely top five. Thanks.
    I experienced something new when I went out playing in the wind a couple of days ago. It was gusty and shifting, SE to SW, 3 to 7 kts. Landing on 18, I experienced slight sinking and ballooning when rounding out. I noticed that the wind was in a shift and pretty much out of the S. I attributed it to the sudden gustiness reducing or adding lift.

    • @Bananasssssssss
      @Bananasssssssss  Před 9 měsíci +1

      The Gusty Variable wind is the worst because so unpredictable, can humble you quickly!, lol . (And thanks! Glad you found it helpful)

  • @user-lb5ft6bn8d
    @user-lb5ft6bn8d Před 9 měsíci +1

    flying like you wear it, you are really doing a nice job of flying the cub, cant wait to see the chief,

    • @Bananasssssssss
      @Bananasssssssss  Před 9 měsíci

      Thanks! going to take me quite a bit of time to fly the Chief as comfortably, lol

  • @timadolphson6971
    @timadolphson6971 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Excellent breakdown sir thank you for taking your time and sharing your knowledge with us

  • @martind181968
    @martind181968 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Great stuff !!! In crosswind landings it made it much easier for me to get the planes nose aligned a little further out on final
    rather than trying to swing nose around with a bit of rudder input as you shallow out decent for the flare or wheel landing. I believe everyone has their own way that works best, and you hit on all those most critical elements, especially for a taildragger. In fairly windy/gusty days you really literally are still flying the cub even in a taxi, ( again the J-3 was a great teacher, as are you ! ) Hey with flying the heavies do you have to really think about the difference in crosswind handling ? I have friends that flew airliners and was amazed at finding out how they are to land in a crab.
    Oh my gosh, what a nice C-170, another of my favorite planes ( never flew this but wish I had one !!! ).

    • @Bananasssssssss
      @Bananasssssssss  Před 9 měsíci +2

      Yeah another point I forgot to mention is I usually make longer finals so I can get a better sense of where the wind is coming from. On the A320's with the smaller IAH Engines we can do the crab method and a little bit of the wing low but with the NEO's its better to crab and time it perfectly to kick rudder to align nose with runway just as you touch down but the Engine Nacelles are really close to the ground so you have to really watch fro that. On Takeoff we don't put any aileron correction in because it would also deploy the flight spoilers so we just manage it as best we can with rudder. On the longer 321s with a strong crosswind sometimes you're almost full rudder to counteract the weathervaning

  • @Gibber66
    @Gibber66 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great clip Joe! Very nice step by step “mechanical” explanation. Obviously, winds don’t stay constant, so inputs need to adjust/compensate for the changes. I also liked your recommendation to increase confidence/competence level by starting small and incrementally challenging/developing our skills👊🏻

  • @kasm10
    @kasm10 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Joe, I just learned so much from you. tysm for putting this together

  • @aviatortrucker6285
    @aviatortrucker6285 Před 2 měsíci

    The lowing method works very well in a high wing aircraft. Tail draggers specifically because they are so light and their CG location causes them to weathervane more positively into the wind. You cannot do this in a lowing heavy aircraft such as a 737 because you would smash the outboard engine on the runway. These type aircraft have to be crabbed till the last minute, and then the rudder has to be kicked in into straighten it out. The trick thing is to know how much rudder authority is available and will keep the airplane going straight.

    • @Bananasssssssss
      @Bananasssssssss  Před 2 měsíci +2

      I use the wing low method on the Airbus, just can’t get crazy because Nacelle doesn’t have much clearance

  • @pudenzdo
    @pudenzdo Před 9 měsíci +1

    Amazing pictures, really good video and perfect explanation, greetings from germany 😊

  • @hillcrestannie
    @hillcrestannie Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thanks.
    I have a C170 and I’m limited to flying time because my x-wind skills are sketchy. Great video

    • @Bananasssssssss
      @Bananasssssssss  Před 9 měsíci

      170 looks a lot tricker than the Cub to land in a crosswind, lol

    • @hotrodray6802
      @hotrodray6802 Před 9 měsíci

      😳😳😳😳

    • @hotrodray6802
      @hotrodray6802 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@Bananasssssssss
      🤔🤔🤔😲😲😲

  • @lostgriz
    @lostgriz Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great Video!

  • @overthehorizonadventurerid108
    @overthehorizonadventurerid108 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thanks mucho! Great vid.

  • @noneofyourbusiness5074
    @noneofyourbusiness5074 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Beautiful, I know all the theory but it's really hard to put it into practice, I never did a Nice crosswind landing, all of them were bad ones!

    • @Bananasssssssss
      @Bananasssssssss  Před 9 měsíci +3

      Yeah it's one of those things where you just have to keep doing them over and over and over and there is no way to get to the good ones until after you've had your fair share of horrendous ones, lol (ask me how I know, haha)

  • @christianmalizia7429
    @christianmalizia7429 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Do you typically do just wheel landings in a crosswind? Does that make it easy to weathervane compared to a three point?

    • @Bananasssssssss
      @Bananasssssssss  Před 9 měsíci

      When its a really steady REALLY strong crosswind I like to three point

  • @hotrodray6802
    @hotrodray6802 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Proper technique is the same in tri gear and tail draggers.
    Problem is that modern instructors are incompetent and unable to teach proper flying.
    CP 55 yrs.

  • @ColderHeavens
    @ColderHeavens Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great video, thanks! What are your thoughts on sideslip all the way down from final vs crab until threshold and then side slip? I was taught to sideslip from final in my PPL training but have since flown with TW CFIs who prefer the crab method. I know it is an age old debate, but I'd still like to read your thoughts.

    • @Bananasssssssss
      @Bananasssssssss  Před 9 měsíci +1

      I feel like it requires too much work and is more unnatural for me. Crabbing just seems easier and also gives me a better “feeling” of what the wind is really doing (if that hopefully makes sense)

    • @ColderHeavens
      @ColderHeavens Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@Bananasssssssss Interesting- it makes sense but I personally think I can feel more of what the wind is doing in a sideslip. Then, when I'm across the threshold all I need to do is hold the correction that I already have in and start to bleed off airspeed and flare.
      I've noticed a a pattern in the CFIs that I know who like to crab vs sideslip- the CFIs who prefer to crab are all type rated in larger jets. Maybe all the time spent crabbing in a professional setting in a jet caries over to feeling the wind while crabbing in a small aircraft?

    • @Bananasssssssss
      @Bananasssssssss  Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@ColderHeavens I guess just personal preference. Ive always done it this way, doesn’t make it wrong or right just kinda what I’ve always done . Im going to try the other way though, may as well

    • @johnlucas2037
      @johnlucas2037 Před 5 dny

      @@ColderHeavensI’m in your camp … I like to get it going straight and then get it down… I’m not comfortable getting into the side slip just before touching down.

  • @ValiantKnight7983
    @ValiantKnight7983 Před 3 měsíci

    how would you do this in a mid or low wing? eventually i want to get an extra, but the wing's low enough that you have to worry about wing strikes a lot more.

    • @Bananasssssssss
      @Bananasssssssss  Před 3 měsíci

      Same concept just have to be more aware. A low wing plane like a Cherokee wouldn’t need to bank that excessively with a typical crosswind.

  • @JW-gb6hq
    @JW-gb6hq Před 9 měsíci

    Ha. I got here first. Good vid👍🏻

  • @tztz1949
    @tztz1949 Před 9 měsíci

    Always add full downwind rudder on takeoff in crosswind.

    • @Bananasssssssss
      @Bananasssssssss  Před 9 měsíci +1

      you Mean Aileron?

    • @tztz1949
      @tztz1949 Před 9 měsíci +1

      No . Full downwind rudder petal and appropriate ailerons into wind. Gives one a jump on both yaw and crosswind tail push. Great content by the way.

    • @Bananasssssssss
      @Bananasssssssss  Před 9 měsíci

      @@tztz1949 thank you!