IN FULL: Dr Jordan Peterson sits down with Piers Morgan in wide-ranging interview
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- čas přidán 7. 01. 2024
- Clinical psychologist and public intellectual Dr Jordan Peterson sits down with Sky News Australia host Piers Morgan to discuss the upcoming US election, the Israel-Hamas war and political activism in the entertainment world.
Is it possible to love Dr. Jordan more? Straight out the gate he had stern look to his face, and that did not change. 10 minutes in and he’s dead serious. Every answer went straight to the root. He’s not wasting any more time.
He is zionist agent that supports GazaGenocide. Jesus christ will send him to hell. With all the zionist and fake Christians zionist
I agree. But he knows how insufferably glib and baiting PM can be. Professional talking heads get noticed by turning them. Clinical psychologists shrink them. Two different worlds.
So much so that who knows where the thinking man’s Geraldo really stands on anything. Gosh I hope i am wrong about piers
@@stoggsherfnik4569 lol
I always feel more normal when I listen to Jordan Peterson.😊
so try to read one of his books to feel something much more better :)
So happy to hear that Jordan Peterson will be exploring the Gospels in the same way he did Exodus!!! I can’t wait!
Jordan Peterson is a legend in our time
I love him but meanwhile I am afraid of this feeling. i do not know how to say it:). personally, do not like a person who is on top of social media, but then I see who is there, JP, then I get confused
I feel so privileged to have the chance to listen and watch Jordan speak. I always get so much from his words and ideas. Im thankful for him and those who, like him, seek to guide and teach.
did you read any of his book? like 12rules for life?
I have alienated all but a brave few at work by openly admiring and quoting Peterson. I love where I stand.
I can see where you’re coming from. I’m in the same boat. I don’t quote him. But I love a good disrupter and he is the King!
I really like JP, but Piers manages to keep him focused and on track. Great interview and covers a lot of ground
Not at all. Look at JP's face. He's completely focused. PM actually looking reasonable is a nice change though.
I'm a great grandfather to 4 now and what you say about grandfather,Jordan, is even more true to a great grandfather. We stand even farther back and enjoy watching their personalities begin to grow.
Piers, thanks for having Jordan Peterson on your show again ! The best education anyone can get is listening to Peterson!
Yea give them hell @colleenshea2293
The best education anyone can get is to turn off their devices, take a deep breath, and pick up a book. I'm a big JP fan, but it's 90% dribble and opinion, opinion about tech, politics, the movie industry... lets get real about things, we really are better without so much "opinion" in our lives.....take a walk and leave your phone at home folks, we need to move away from all of this.
I distrust his take on the Russian invasion, looks like a Kremlin apologist. Why is he so suddenly blaming the west and defending Putin?
Facts
The Doc sure is educating Piers! Doc Peterson is truly a one of a kind human. He's the type of genuinely good that we all falsely believe is mostly in everyone. How many people do you know who have a strict character of honesty. Hardly any. People lie to themselves, tell white lies with lots of excuses, tell bold face lies, ommission lies, twisted lies, all sorts of lying. Yet this one little thing, to strive for honesty at all times no matter the consequences, makes the Doc a uniquely wonderful person. I think the secret is to not be afraid to mess up, because once you do that you can fix all sorts of flaws. And I think thats what he has done. "Strive for honesty, or at least dont lie." I think thats his secret right there. We all want honesty from others, but how many of us give it in return. Or even to ourselves.
A great mind has a simple foundation of common sense. Jordan is truthful to himself.
2:41 *The Woke / Hollywood*
7:37 *Post Office Scandal*
12:17 *The US election*
• 21:24 The Abraham Accords
27:47 *The UK election*
29:41 *Ukraine and Russia*
31:16 *Israel-Hamas War*
I wish more channels included breakdowns like yours.
Jordan Peterson says a sentence and I have to check the meaning of 3 words in it 😅 he’s a national treasure!
Such an amazing interview Dr. Peterson Thanks For Sharing Your Knowledge
I feel wiser each time i listen to the wisdom of Dr. Peterson.
Wow morgan isn't interrupting every other word.
Jordan is an articulate, rational, and wise guest.
Jordan sniffs money and goes towards that direction
J.Peterson for a president of Harward would be wonderful!!!
Nope, schools already have enough adderal and xanax
Peterson is too busy doing more meaningful things - for real!
@@colleenshea2293Yes, but, oooooh! Would not that be fun to watch?
And who knows, maybe having such an archetype..... reset Harvard's path would break Woke-ness in the US
Perhaps in all the West..
Dunno if you did catch that but he is doing his own thing with the peterson academy
@@Illyczka Oh, I did, I most certainly did.
I believe Jordan Peterson is a pioneer in revising academia and how we learn and earn degrees. Colleges and universities as we know them today will go the way of the traditional mainstream media because they are not adapting or developing the workforce of the future.
Amazing..loved it..thank you.
I would enroll in the Peterson Academy in a heartbeat.
100%
Being pro genocide would help your admission
Dang! Pierce actually asked some good questions.
“If you want to get the demons of the world under control, you’d better start with the demons in your own skull. And if you don’t think that’s not enough to keep you busy, that just means you haven’t looked inside with enough courage and perspicacity” (this sentence alone makes JP a priceless interpret of humanity and of our time...
Love truly love Jordan Peterson and THANK YOU Piers Morgan for presenting him
Twelve Rules for Life.
1 through 11 - Don’t do drugs.
12 - Eat a balanced diet.
😂🤣😂🤣
Use sunscreen
😂😂😂 😂 I can see you like deduction, you like minuses
I don't think Trump is divisive. He just has an uncanny ability to shine a light on people's foibles and it gets their backs up. If one listens to a long form interview with Trump where the interviewer isn't trying to play gotcha with the questions he is really middle of the road. He truly loves the country and the American people.
It's not a question of where he loves the country or not. He is completely divisive. All one needs to do is look at the 150 years preceding 45 and compare to his term. The division is night and day obvious. One of the jobs of a president is to unite the population and that clearly did not happen. It's time to move on to better leadership.
Thank you both for your open mindedness and wisdom and to all the listeners ! May the audience keep growing so that we have a better chance for change and peace in our societies ❤🇨🇦 30:29
I was "anyone but Trump" last election; this time, I think he's exactly the strong leadership we need. The left has gone WAY too far and it's time to fix the damage.
Welcome back to sanity
"The left has gone WAY too far..." At this point the Republican party better represents my liberal values than the Democrats. In particular, leaving the border open to uncontrolled immigration is a wealth transfer from poor workers who are mostly Latino and Black to employers who are mostly White.
Some pretty alarming things coming from his mouth. Sounds like he plans to be a mafia boss. ‘ The president would be immune from prosecution for ordering a murder while in office unless impeached and convicted in Congress first.’ Even if you were to say ‘ he wouldn’t actually DO that’, the fact that that is the type of trash on his mind,uttered in public is beneath the office. Way beneath. He plans to cancel the civil service and appoint people he can control. People supporting this imbecile are NOT paying attention, and will live to regret it. Careful what you wish for…
Welcome aboard. Happy sailing
And all that's really changed there is that you've caught up with the reality of the situation. Hopefully many more continue to!
Thank you very much!
11:35 We're already living in an age when their is often a large physical distance between indivudals and the systems that govern them. Increasing surveilance and automation only increases this distance through technology.
I could be listening for hours...
It is so lovely to see doctor Peterson looking so well😊
Thanks
JP is the best
Jordan is fantastic, he is so true and honest, its really refreshing to see someone like that we style and class. He represents all as equals
Great to hear people of integrity for a change.
What you see in the UK you see in the he US aprox 6 to 10 years later. The UK's camera system being coppied in Chicago right now ❗💯
why dont you think rfk has a chance?
Great interview!
JP, is Trump divisive like you are provocative? Are you sure it’s just not the narrative of the media?
The camaras everywhere is aweful. People have to be able to mess up just a little. There has to be some leway. For example, a cop sees you run a red light when there's nobody around. He pulls you over and finds that you're rushing your child to the hospital. He lets you go with a half-serious warning, bidding you well. Now same scenario, but a camara catches you instead. An automated ticket goes out in the mail. Zero leway. Zero humanity for circumstances. Thats the automated tirany the Doc's talking about. It would be an aweful thing to lose the humanity of life.
Besides, AI is intelligence without emotion. You know what else that describes? Sociopaths. Do we really want a sociopath in charge of every detail of our life?
listening to this id love to know Jordans opinion of Jacque Fresco, his ideas, concepts.
"The war in Ukraine is a bonanza for the military-industrial complex." True.
What city is shown in the background behind Piers?
Illegal wars: Biden 2; Trump 0.
Well he is right about Kier Starmer and the Labour Party.
"Japanese computers malfunctioning..."
Lol. That tells me it was 100% intentional.
I wish J Peterson will write commentaries on the Gospel from psychological point of view which I believe can help more people understand and apply the teachings of Jesus in their lives specifically those who need psychological guidance to direct their own lives.
It is unintelligent to blame President Trump for the way he is presented by his enemies.
Love Dr. Jordan P, although can't say the same for Piers
Tell 'im, Doc. Trump is exactly what he needs to be to fight these evil people. You have to be tough and demand loyalty. Trumps playing with the big boys, and worse, trying to take their power away. Its amazing he's still such a nice guy after everything they've done.
Very interesting comments about art-relative to politics-- by JP.
What do you think, Rory? Do we have a responsibility to use our platforms, too ( providing we get on and make good music, gardens, paintings, football, etc)?
21:23 The Abraham Accords
38:42 Free speech & elite colleges
42:39 end
Good afternoon Jordan and Piers
Really have alot to say but stuck right now in this moment if honest, I feel physically sick! (Apologies for perhaps painting such picture). However.
After thirty months of a GIANT it seems uphill battle.(the hill not the battle). I am increasingly terrified noticing that I'm less shocked daily at the vile mess of things!
Long story STILL, it seems short, for the now!!
However HAPPY 2024 and on reflection 2023 could not have ended BETTER all things considered. My Dad would say 'that could happen in a film' when crazy stuff would happen in life.
And for my family and I best CHRISTMAS EVER...After seventeen years, my Dad and his wonderful longterm partner are back in Sotland and I'm more complete as a human being for it.
Truly grateful for my Dad and not shy to say I still need Ma Da even at fifty years young.
Grateful for your shared conversation.
Sanity sensemaking brain gym.
💜
Im 100% voting for Trump. Close the border and no WW3. That's enough reason for me.
Things are looking really bad.. and that's not including this years catastrophes likely lined up
Well, next time Piers talks to Trump, they have something to talk about.
Both can be wise but so are the rest of us vote how you want be honest and honorable about it and go about living loving your family friends and neighbors come 4 years vote again
I respect and admire Dr. Peterson, however on the Israel issue, I have to point out how hard he speaks against fundamentalist Islamics (which of course , there are) but not about fundamentalist that are running the current government on Israel (beginning with Netanyahu and his cabinet). He speaks about the BIOS which his, is reflected perfectly on his assessment about Israel.
22:50 How can we know Trump hasn’t been empathetic and cordial when all we can see is the propagandized media. Piers c’mon, you’re smarter than that right? I came up with that right off and you’re a global correspondent and exceptionally bright. Surely this occurred to you!!
Exceptionally bright is a faaaaaar stretch
That's Not You guys.... that's Someone else.. Intellectuals are the ones Who Trudge Forward
I always thought Biden was going to give Trump a medal 😂😂
Prophet for our days...people listen and understand his warnings.
Just a man who’s been through the fire & brave enough to articulate it
JBP is such a smart fox. )
So, war in Ukraine is a blessing for military complex (conveniently forgets that most of it is a chance to give away written off and cold war old equipment and ammo and replace it with new modern tech + new work places, economy livening etc) whilst Israel Gaza war is somehow not that. And we lost a chance to reach peace with russia (forgets about multiple failed tries there), but obv no solution for Israel Gaza war because there were so many tries (somehow russia wants peace, whilst Arab countries dont).
And then when talking about Trump he mentions Vivek and DeSantis who are single digits, but ignores Haley, who is right behind Trump.
With all the respect to him this sounds like a purposeful narrative shaping with a hidden agenda instead of a good will truth seeking.
I think it's more about Peterson being badly misinformed about these topics and a need for him, when asked about these topics, to stick to his swim lane.
@@wesgleeson , could be that too, plus the editing of the video. I wonder why he choose to stays so misinformed though. I was and still is a keen listener of many of his old videos on psychology, but this is very questionable at the very least.
@@danilabezmenov3489 I've seen him make a similar mistake a few times, giving opinion on things he clearly knows little about. If I was being cynical, I would say that this opinion, or even that of refusing to fully condemn the Russian government, has something to do with his love of Russian authors, his daughter's Russian husband, or maybe even his time spent in that country 2-3 years ago while recovering from illness, and an unwillingness to offend his connections there. Edit: it seems like his daughter got a divorce
@@wesgleeson , yep. Aside from those you mentioned, the Russian soul thing with all the suffering as a virtue may have affected his judgement on Russia I think.
Jordan " give em hell " Peterson
Give they should
Being smart does not make you righteous or humane.
Jordan lost this unfortunately. As someone who read all his books I really am shocked every time I hear him adress the Palestinian issue.
I dare to disagree. I live in Israel, come visit us adter the war and you would see that jews and arabs live together quite well even with our differences. The problem is the terror organizations like hamas and the PLO. Those are not people, they are barberians from the 4th century
Listen more closely. You've failed to grasp the nuances of his intellectual language skills and by default you are failing to understand he is actually sympathizing with Palestinians and placing blame right where it belongs. Which is on those
(neighboring) countries and political figures that claim to have a sympathetic view on the Palestinians, yet are content with their situation for their own political leverage.
@@ninjacat508 there is one side which commits horrible crimes against kids women journalists let alone infrastructure.. and screams in their loudest voices Gazans could better leave and go live elsewhere.. the neighbours and geopolitics become inferior to that when spreading sympathy..
one day we will adress the palestinian issue and we will damn those who were neutral or pro injustice.
👍
That's because you don't know enough. And you don't know your religion enough either, Adnan. And this isn't an accusations, but an invite to go and study because your religious leaders who hold on to this, being some absolute psychopaths, hold you and many hostage and are very happy to sacrifice you for "god" who is a Devil himself. While doing so, they also use you to hurt the number of other people.
They are as dangerous as globalists running the show in the developed part of the world. And the 2 of you are the greatest disaster that has happaned in a modern human history...and through that clash of insane titans on seemingly opposing sides is exactly how we all will suffer some horrible consequences...
Demonic masterplan. And it's working very well.
All art is political.
How do you mean?
Jordan Peterson is a careful and deeply reflective person. However, he-along with many libertarians, centrists, and conservatives-often gets Hollywood wrong. I am let down by Peterson's knee-jerk and predictable critique of Hollywood. If anyone can suppress impulsive, childish hackery and admit actors are brilliant, thoughtful people, it's Peterson. It's not by mere accident that every conservative has and will continue to tear up during "Saving Private Ryan."
Peterson surely knows, certainly better than me, that the arts explore the human condition in all its multifaceted dimensions. Politics and the arts will always have overlapping points of contact. To ask or expect artists, often the most perceptive and sensitive among us-whether Picasso painting "Guernica" or Hollywood actors reflecting on current affairs-not to comment on politics is not only laughable but utterly ignorant of the modus operandi of the artistic endeavor. I hate to be so evaluative, but for Peterson to insinuate that artists undermine our culture by engaging with our time's most profound political questions is to be somewhat of a philistine.
Why it's an uncomfortable truth is beyond me. But it's time for many on the right to accept that Hollywood artists are among the most ingenious thinkers and writers the world has ever seen. It is not, naturally, true for everyone. But many people have a sneaking suspicion that conservatives have repressed high school insecurities from being exposed by the intelligent, articulate, authentic, original, independent art kids for being shallow douchebags who regurgitated sterile cliches. Granted, I too am biased and generalizing here. However, that doesn't mean it's not a sneaking suspicion.
@MikekGullion - brilliant comment. My q was on the responsibility of those with platforms to comment on life. Just because mostly it gets done badly, doesn't mean it has to be bad. Maybe that's because most art out there isn't particularly good. Most footballers aren't at Premier League standard and most poets write mediocre stuff, the majority of guitarists go in the amateur bracket-but that doesn't mean they shouldn't give it a go, and even awful artists sometimes have a moment that transcends that.
What are his thoughts on South africa presenting the dossier on genocide at the Hague… perhaps the ANC has an axe to grind as Israel supported the apartheid regime at the time and were against Mandela
I don't know. You'd have to ask him.
An interesting q I heard raised is who is funding SA's case, given that they have no money. Russia and Iran were suggested.
He should run for president, if he wasn't a Canadian
Piers morgan you have proven yourself a gem in journalism thank you
Wow so true. OG lord of the rings dealt with classic philosophical questions… the new Amazon show dealt with a lower bar of political and social commentary. The bar has been lowered and it’s super boring
Peterson has that capacity to be very much to the point or my point. Time to hit the reset button re invent civil unrest and rewrite our story/history forward.
Please provide the videos where Trump is "trash talking".
Why does Jordan Peterson use ChatGPT continually as a lying personal assistant, instead of hiring a qualified, honest human personal assistant?
Cause these people are hard to find?
He didn't say he *does* use it. He said it's useful as that tool only and the rest is biased and false.
Please listen more carefully.
He said he's used it continually for months, as a kind of highly talented research assistant, except that it lies. @@ninjacat508
What about Peterson Academy applicants? After they've undergone the rigorous PA screening process? He hasn't found anyone from those thousands of applicants someone who would qualify? @@MichaelMartusevich
Wrong. 10:15 However, your advice is still good for people like yourself. @@ninjacat508
Slow news day?
John 14:21
I like Jordan Peterson and always listen very carefully to what he has to say. However, I strongly disagree with him when it comes to Trump. He makes it sound as if Trump, who -according to Peterson- is a man who "has flaws like the rest of us", has been unfairly vilified and demonised by the "radical left" and this why he behaves the way he does. Trump has always thrived on divisiveness and contention; from day one of his political campaigns and his presidency, he has used abusive language and ad hominem attacks against his opponents. Twitter was his preferred political tool and he excelled at using it. Isn't it understandable that a lot of people would be put off by that? Including non-radical leftists, centrists or even many fellow Republicans? Also, I don't see January 6th as just a "flaw"; if a left-wing or Democratic president had tried to do something similar, I'm sure Peterson's verdict on that person would be very different.
I agree. I love JP when he sticks to his specialty of psychology and how to 'be' in the world but his politics is wayward and he has agendas that he pushes. I lost respect for his political opinions after his propaganda piece with Bibi Netanyahu. czcams.com/video/4OcaMRLTyGI/video.html He doesn't challenge Bibi on ANYTHING, JP just gives Bibi a platform to say whatever he wants and agreeing with everything his says. Quite sad such a good mind is underhandedly pushing political agendas.
Agreed. Time and again, in JP's interviews, he refuses to call out Trump and his shenanigans of divisiveness and attempts to paint him as a kind of martyr or victim. It makes me suspicious of JP's motives and intent on this topic; whereas, on other subjects I find great insight from him. It's blatant that 45 refuses to take responsibility for his actions and lies. Jordan, show you are a man of integrity (a virtue you hold high) and call out the Machiavellian tendencies of Americas previous president resolutely, directly, and firmly in the same way you do with the radical left. You can't have it both ways...
Does a platform not come with responsibility- even a small platform? JP talks about each person influencing maybe 1000 people. If you have a larger audience, doesn't the responsibility grow? That is what many in the arts face. I don't ordinarily do political art, but I feel v strongly that to be silent about certain things is to let certain people down, and to be complicit. Or should it be more about a sense of calling? E.g. In my world, there are loud voices painting Hamas as arty human rights activists... Because of the absence of contrary voices, and because they are on my heart, I feel that I ought to say something for the hostages, survivors and victims. Hard to do that so people don't assume that you don't care about small kids trapped under rubble. 😢 I'm preparing to share work that will get me hate and lose me followers, but what's the point of doing anything, if you aren't prepared to pay the cost, and try to do something you feel is right?
I would love to ask JP or Piers their thoughts on that responsibility. Is it responsibility or just something we can do if we choose to? After all, JP is happy to wander outside his field. 🙂
Agree with argument re. Ukraine and the military industrial complex, but as for Israel, Jordans’ alliance with Benny Shapiro seems to cloud his judgement. Is it that difficult to just acknowledge that the policies of the occupying Israeli radical politics are the root cause for the perpetual violence. Using the ‘victimhood’ ‘successful minority argument doesn’t convince at all. And no it has nothing to do with hating Jewish people, it’s all about aggressive segregation politics from the part of successive Israeli governments. Sometimes it’s just a matter of looking at the objective facts and yes Palestinians are indeed victims of longstanding oppression. Oppression exists, not only as an abused woke theory to install tyranny.
Petersen talks with some scorn of politics.
I learnt the history of the nineteenth century for four years. Maybe the nuns felt that that century criticised the Church less than other bits of English history does. It taught me to have an enormouse admiration for polititians.
Robert Peel created the police force, soldiers used to police a manifestation had opened fire on a manifestation and killed citizens. He created the English police force, the Bobbies or peelers. A force withiut guns, unless they folowed a dangerous criminal, when some guns in a locked cupboard got handed out to the police.
He also reformed the punishments handed out to criminals, reducing them. It had been possible to hang a seven.year old for stealing a sheep!
They passed the factory act, reducing the hours, people worked for and making work safer. So, helped the poor. Ditto with controls in mines.
They introduced window tax as a way to tax the rich much more than the poor.
They introduced universal suffrage. Women though, only got the vote in the next century.
What saint, ever helped the poor as muchas these polititians did? .
I've done my job! Jordan: repent or burn! ( I like you, God loves you)
Jordan! You're running out of steam.
Get the Holy Spirit.
Get born again!
Piers question about New Years Resolutions brought a wry smile to my face. It shows Piers skill and experience in journalism by asking a question designed to provide the interviewee with an opportunity to communicate to the broadcast audience his/hers central philosophy.
The honesty with which Dr Jordan Peterson answers the question about the difference between being a parent and grandparent is an indication of his sincere attitude towards reality.
The Woke political philosophy was inevitably destined for implosion. Jordan’s anger at witnessing the decline of great institutions (like MIT and Harvard) has its roots in a deep love for said institutions. It’s a natural human reaction to react with anger, if one witnesses a loved one consciously choose to walk down a doomed path.
Piers, I wouldn’t get too excited about this “worm that has turned” moment at the Golden Globes- because Hollywood is cognisant that there’s a US General Election around the corner. The people who run Hollywood know that super-saturating popular culture with politics (at a prescient time like this) will inevitably harm Hollywood’s greatest public-facing assets (i.e. their stars).
Jordan’s insightful and brilliant response to this “worm has turned” moment (described by Piers) is as concise as it is eloquent. It’s a very painful and self-evident truth for the broadcast audience to absorb.
I find myself in agreement with Jordan’s response to the Post Office scandal. The terrible consequences of automating our “wilful blindness and stupidity” will have catastrophic consequences for the individual; but I fear they will be tolerated because of their perceived collective effect on our future society.
It’s almost like we have a war of information. Info Wars?
What are we to believe ... when psychologists don't agree with each other's type of counsel?
Example ... this is what the psychologist Jordan Peterson perceives is his version of truth. “Gender identity and gender expression are not valid ideas. They are not true. There is no evidence for it. I don’t know what the options are, if you don’t identify as a man or a woman. There is an idea that there’s a gender section. I think that is an ill-informed opinion. Gender identity and sexual orientation are the same thing. I don’t believe these people, these terms, stand for good things. I think these people use these terms as a pretense that they stand for good things; as a pretense for them to carry on their nefarious activities.”
In contrast … this is what the television star psychologist Phil McGraw perceives is his version of truth. … “Cleveland Clinic did a study on transgender brains, and when they did the study, they found that the brains of transgender people, their brain is actually more similar to the gender they identify with, than the gender they were assigned at birth. There is an actual brain difference. That is a neurological fact. There are fifty years of empirical evidence here. And there are distinct differences in the transgender brain versus the non-transgender brain.”
From the book … When the Body Says No: The Cost of Hidden Stress … Author … Gabor Maté M.D. Studies in psychology-an art trying desperately to dress itself up in pure science-often find only what the particular researchers have the eyes to see.
Time and again, in JP's interviews, he refuses to call out Trump and his shenanigans of divisiveness and attempts to paint him as a kind of martyr or victim. It makes me suspicious of JP's motives and intent on this topic; whereas, on other subjects I find great insight from him. It's blatant that 45 refuses to take responsibility for his actions and lies. Jordan, show you are a man of integrity (a virtue you hold high) and call out the Machiavellian tendencies of Americas previous president resolutely, directly, and firmly in the same way you do with the radical left. You can't have it both ways...
You’re clueless
@@fredbloggs5902 Hardly
Trump has his flaws... but nobody on earth has been attacked like he has. Every media outlet everyday. And yet, we had peace, and a strong economy. No new wars, that's a first in my lifetime.
Completely devoid of facts and rational opinions.
Murdoch puts loons on air, but no bigger loon than Madman Murdoch.
“devoid of facts and rational opinion” , your posts have something in common then!
Silence you communist heathen
Completely disagree on his assessment of the relative importance of the wars in Ukraine and Gaza for the security of western Europe. I support Israel in its war with Hamas, however, the reality is that it makes no difference to Europe if Israel exists or not. Ukraine is entirely different. Russia has a long history of expansionism, and the idea among Russians that they have a 'right' to own places like Belarus, Ukraine and Georgia runs deep, as does a belief that they have the right to control countries like Poland and Finland. Any settlement with Russia in the 90s. as suggested by Dr Peterson would have left millions of people either directly or indirectly ensnared in a Russian Empire. That would have created instability on our boarders. It could be argues that we have similar instability across the Muslim world to our south and into the middle east. The existence of Israel makes make little difference. Even if Israel did not exist, the corruption, authoritarianism, poverty, lack education and opportunity in the Islamic world would be much the same, and the expansionist, supremacist religion combined with the population explosion would still exist.
Yes, agreed. I'm a fan of both these gents, but a LOT of this particular discussion concerns me greatly, INCLUDING some of the very edited & separated out videos from it (those I've so far found, sure more will emerge). I think they put forward some highly dangerous and inciteful opinions, especially about Trump, that just don't stand up to scrutiny - HOWEVER wildly intelligent and usually perceptive particularly Mr. Peters is. This is at times a very worrying discussion, and I hope as a result of it (see the comments below the edited video on Trump 😲😮), that personal responsibility is taken by both gents for what they have said here.
Absolutely agree!@@XelaMa
If Israel disappears today europe will disappear tomorrow. Europe, have been using Israel conveniently for decades as the hub where all islamonazis go to murder and die in the pursuit to destroy western civilization. Europe especially, hoding behind Israel while at the same time giving Israel morality lessons.
Wrong, Russia is defending itself against nato expansion and I can’t blame them, we, UK and USA, are the cause of the Ukraine war
Wrong, Russia is defending itself against nato expansion and I can’t blame them, we, UK and USA, are the cause of the Ukraine war
Jordan looks exhausted, I hope his health is Ok.
Hardly anyone is so busy and yet still arises articulate with depth for an insightful chat !
Is he crying in this ?
Xanax abuse
He’s been through the meat grinder of continuous attacks to try and cancel him from many directions. All the while going through the fire step by step. He has commented on the look on someone’s face after they have had the full forces of cancellation & smear & illegal legalities thrown at them. A persons face gets hardened. He’s okay. He’s stronger now than ever plus now has more allies
He looks healthier than most people his age
Talking of wilful stupidity, Piers Morgan thinks sub post offices deliver mail, lol.
YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN! (John 3.3) But Jordan, I don't think you are.
C'mon, which side are you on?
Wow what a great man is Peterson, write that stuff and help us understand the Bible, implement social cohesion, and 5 wives for each of us ! (As a bonus, on top of the few wives we already have !!)
Actually wow, just fucking wow, peers moreagain asks fair question to lowly little Jordan Peterson, while giving a totally unfair shake to the great Andrew Tate ! Focusing on whether one might categorize hammmmmmmmmas as twlerrorists or not !!!
So who's the father of Mikaela's baby? I thought she was single. Not Andrew Tate surely. She went and hung out with him like she was someone who is single. Or just some other guy? None of my business? Except that she now has her own podcast, kind of on the back of her father's fame and seemingly espousing the same values. I can't help but wonder. Obviously there's stuff i don't know.
She's married ... duhhhh.
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The father is the first husband, a Russian. Because the admiration for Russians run in the family. She was named after a Russian, a communist Russian: Gorbatchev.
Peterson is a very ambiguous man. He cited Soljenitsyn in his tirades about communism, but has a Soviet art collection. His daughter arranged with a Russian clinic to get treatment for Jordy's addiction (a psychologist is supposed to know better about depressions drugs) through induced coma.
@@flxjay8985so having art means you like communism? What a moron you are.
You are all worried about wokeness. I am worried about the billionaires who can buy out polititians and journalists.
In English history, in the hundred years war, Barons who grouped together could tyurn of the throne kings, causing endless wars. Now we have Billionaires who if they band together probably can do similar.
…that buy wokeness.
Did you sleep through this interview?
wait... who's baby is this?
I wish Piers could talk more to jordan about more broad perspectives.. Instead he talks trump so much..
If you want more Peterson read his books ! Worthwhile.
It was all good untill the war part ....
Came here to say exactly this.
Didnt piers push the poisonous injection?
Then publicly apologized
When he updated his mental model of the world in response to new information
Automating stupidity into AI. Great idea. (Sarcasim)