now i habe watched your video and as i alredy knew if asta got magic he pr would be way too strong not the stronget but enough to put hin as wizard king Level and dann this people habe a thicker skull what i usualy watch just accept asta is not overpowerd most of his streath came from him also i would realy want to see a video who actaully worked harder mydoria or asta bc there is a lot of debate
20:09 “please tell me how Anti-Magic is Overpowered”. Alright Broku your on. Since you don’t believe we should be zombies that listen to everything every youtuber says I want a chance to think alongside you. If you’ll listen that is. Now the first reason you stated and the one you used quite a lot was that “you need to be physically strong enough to wield the swords” 6:18 . I completely disagree with this statement. As shown by liebe in the devil binding ritual, someone with innate anti-magic can control and move the swords without even touching them. This actually removes the requirement that you need to be as strong as Asta to lift the swords, as if you can control them to the point of actually making them float/fly mid air then you make them as light as you want in order to swing them if you wanted to do it manually. So no you don’t actually have to run through tornados and train for 10 years to lift these swords and if you use the swords like these they also wont slow you down by the way. Now do I think Asta can swing the swords harder than a person doing that well yes he literally used one hand to send a sword being used against him flying in that same ritual, but to be fair he had, time to train while liebe was in a book, so there are some arguments to be made. Next you mentioned how you would have to face discrimination 7:15 , this is only partially true. Its true if your living in the clover kingdom not much else, the reasoning is as you said yourself the clover kingdom is a society were magic means everything. It’s the same as how being a devil host will get you executed in the clover kingdom, but being a devil host in spade benefitted you for a period of time. If Asta simply went to live in the other kingdoms after getting anti-magic he would not have to deal with the discrimination. After this you said “ Once Asta gets more swords and his black form, then he’s overpowered” 10:58 . I agree with this statement in the sense that asta gets stronger with each sword, but this brings me to one of my major problems with your argument. Your trying to prove that ANTI-MAGIC is NOT OVERPOWERED because ASTA is NOT OVERPOWERED. This is fundamentally wrong. For example, using this logic I could make the argument that light magic is weak because king clover a user of light magic who has had his magic for years couldn’t even save himself from falling and needed Sekke to save him. Now while everyone would love to be saved by Dark lord Sekke, I’m pretty sure the king didn’t intentionally not save himself for this reason. Now the obvious retort to this is that there are more people we've seen to disprove this such as patry and the first wizard king, but lets assume for the sake of the argument that king clover was the only person we've ever seen with light magic. everone would call light magic trash. This is what I mean, just because Asta hadn’t figured out how to use anti-magic properly does not stop it from being overpower, you need to separate the power from the person and analyze it. ANTI-MAGIC IS OVERPOWER, Asta simply didn’t how to use it. In other words ANTI-MAGIC IS OVERPOWERED, ASTA ISNT OVERPOWERED, there IS a difference. Since you also watch jujutsu kaisen let me use an example from it to further illustrate my point. we know that "Fumihiko Takaba" has a curse technique on power with gojo's limitless, being "Comedian" yet as powerful as it is and despite that it is literally told to us that it is on power with limitless because Fumihiko Takaba isn’t the smartest tool in the shed he cant use it nearly to the point where it would even be close to limitless. The point of this statement isn’t to say that comedian is overpowered, its to say that if a person doesn’t know how to use a power its going to make that power look weaker than it actually is. I also don’t blame him for not knowing how antimagic works, he had anti-magic for less than a year. And using that fact how long did it take asta to reach the level of a vice captain using anti-magic. there are few magic types which asta could have used to get this strong. For instance, at the end of the video you say “Let’s say he gets a random ass three leaf clover with fire magic” 21:13 . I tell you with 100% confidence, that if asta had NO PLOTARMOR, and he got that 3 leaf fire grimore instead of his anti-magic grimore on the same day, he would have gotten clapped by langris. I don’t see what spell he could have thrown at langris that langris wouldn’t have immediately sent to the shadow realm. Please elaborate if you disagree. I would also like to address that one requirement to get good with antimagic is that you need to go through a devil binding ritual. while this was definitely true in asta's case your overgeneralizing it. bear with me for a second. the reason I say this is because if you really think about it asta didnt get antimagic in chaper 1, he got an antimagic sword. whats the difference? well the one who actually had antimagic was liebe and not asta. asta had the swords that were imbued with antimagic but not antimagic itself. he only started to really get antimagic during his first devil transformation, the problem here is that even with that he was only using trickles of antimagic. the devil binding ritual was for him to be able to use all of liebe's power (antimagic), but lets assume that it was actually asta who manifested antimagic. he wouldnt need a devil binding ritual be able to actually use antimagic since he'd just have it. and we know that its not impossible for humans to have the same type of magic as a devil without being connected to them for instance beelzbub and langris, so i dont think its unfair to say that if asta manifested his own antimagic in chapter 1 he wouldnt need to go through the binding ritual. but even if you want to argue that it would have been impossible for asta to develope antimagic on his own, remember that your argument is "anti magic is not overpowered" and not "asta is not overpowered" so if we look at antimagic in isolation without asta, well we know liebe acquired antimagic and can uses it freely and he didnt need a binding ritual [he needed the binding ritual to get out of the grimore not use antimagic freely] so that means it is possible to have antimagic and use it freely without a binding ritual. Also I find it interesting, how you think that Asta not being able to one shot the KING OF DEVILS who has likely been alive for more than 800 YEARS, does not make ANTI-MAGIC who by this point had only been training for around 2 years overpowered. Like you do realize that there were captains there, who mind you had been training their magic for multiple years and they all admitted that asta’s ANTI-MAGIC was the only thing that gave them a chance of winning. This means that ANTI-MAGIC is so strong that 2 years of training it is enough to surpass other characters with years of experience. And you can’t even make the point the point that these captains didn’t train, since we found out that fuegoleon was personally trained by a formal magic knight (Sister Theresa) since childhood and we don’t even consider him one of the Strong captains so what about the rest. Even when you state that lucifero was only using a fraction of his power, it doesn’t prove that ANTI-MAGIC is not overpowered, because if someone can use 2 years of training to defeat 50% of an 800 YEAR OLD KING OF DEMONS. That means that ANTI-MAGIC has the potential to reach 50% of an 800 YEAR of experience. Please tell me a SINGLE magic type that can do this. Lucius and Yuno are both probably strong enough to pull of this feat, but not only do they both have 2 magic types but they’ve also had their magic for their entire live while I would say yet again that asta only had anti magic for 2-3 years Assuming you dont blatantly disagree with what ive said up to this point, that would mean that ive proving that antimagic and be used without needing insane physical strength and without the need for a devil binding ritual. meaning the only thing stopping antimagic from crossing the boundaries of highcost to overpowered per your definintion of overpowered is the fact that asta feels pain when he uses antimagic. now ill be honest with you. I'm a bit on the fence with this one. i haven't seen asta complain about pain from antimagic since binding with liebe, i also have never seen liebe complain about antimagic hurting him, and since we know that in union asta and liebe feel the same pain i think it would be fair to say that if liebe experiences no pain from antimagic then neither would asta. we also know that while in the grimore liebe was creating and covering himself in antimagic, and i doubt he would have done that if it was actively hurting him. which lead me to the conclusion that liebe a user of antimagic doesnt feel pain when using antimagic. should this be true, that would mean pain is not an inherite property of antimagic. Paired with everything else ive said that would make antimagic Overpower by your definition, because that would make antimagic No cost high reward in general. now of course since its never been stated i would understand why you would just reject this. but still i would like to say one last time that antimagic being overpowered does not translate to asta being overpowered. Side note: I hate the argument that without asta’s physical strength, someone with antimagic would only be able to nullify magic and not be able to actually knock people out. We’ve seen that anti-magic slashes actually do physical damage when asta rescued the spade nation people. And even if you want to argue that he couldn’t use slashes without the second sword, remember that the first sword that came with the grimore is heavy enough to the point were if you fling it at someone like liebe does it likely just kill them.
Well anti magic can only be used by Asta because of his lack mana But still say anti magic can be strong on its own as well, just a matter of how you use it.
@@JDWalker495duh, they mean hypothetically. anti magic is indeed strong on its own but it’s only AS POWERFUL bc of asta. anyone else in this show wouldn’t be as poweful as asta with anti magic, maybe another commoner but not likely.
I've never seen his anti-magic as overpowered I've always seen it as a leveler. Here are all these Wizards with God complexes because they were born with magic that let them warp time or space or some other ridiculous ability by flexing a finger or something like that and here is Asta able to force them all on an even playing field where they proceeded to throw Tantrums because for the first time they have to struggle.
@@JDWalker495 oh yeah no doubt, start of series and beyond it's a menace But Asta himself put in the work to actually swing those HEAVY anti magic swords, even the Wizard King was shocked at Demon Dweller's weight
Not just train in anti magic, but even sword combat, analysis, muscles and the will to never give up. Even with his sword skills, characters who were more skilled than him could even still whoop him. Like Conrad who was basically using one sword and one hand but still managed to beat him up and to go as long as stabbing him.
Agreed, but he needs to do more martial arts training cause he has a record of losing to people skilled in that aspect eg. Conrad, Ichika, Dante, Lucius, Mereoleona etc.
@@JDWalker495Those people were all stronger than Asta when they first fought it was more because of a power difference than Asta just not being skilled. Like with Conrad once he got his devil arm he was pressuring him pretty well even though they were probably pretty close to equal.
To me Anti magic is just another magic attribute in the power system which gives it both pros and cons due to its nature. It’s not overpowered but it’s also not as underpowered as some people would also say. I would personally put it in the top 10 magic attributes series, but it’s far from flawless. Pros: (1) The obvious nullification, reflection or absorption of all magic, basically giving you a type advantage over all other attributes, (2)can be permanently infused into weapons to grant permanent unique effects, (3) Is naturally arcane allowing users to interfere with reality and concepts such as space, time, dimensions and devil biology. (4) synergies extremely well with ki, (5) users are immune to mana sense and mana targeting spells. Cons: (1) A certain threshold of anti magic is needed to affect large quantities of mana, (2) early usage is limited to imbued weapons which rely on the physical strength of the wielder, (3) Anti magic lacks any form of recovery magic and has no access to mana zone or natural mana.
i feel like asta is really op as a support character for what ever team he is in. negating magic for his other teammates to go and clean up the kill thats how i see asta. just a super important support character.
yeah its like most over people put all their exp points into select stats. then you have Asta just putting exp into each thing he can to be the a good round about fighter
When i started BC I also thought the am is op. But when I saw how many times he got his kicked and needed a group to defeat an enemy, It proved everything. Tabata did really well maintaining AM power ✌️
Anti-magic is an underrated concept that doesn't get the credit it deserves imo. It's not overpowered but very practical and essential to the story of Black Clover. All the while in the Black Clover verse, it's a power no ordinary human or devil can wield because of its effects.
Thank you, too many people go to the other side of the spectrum and call it worthless without asta. I say it’s reasonably powerful, top tier, but not all mighty
I love every explaination for Asta, he's legitmately the tank getting up afrer being bodied time and time again. Hard work, nothing else, just hard work.
I think of magic and anti-magic as being like baking soda and vinegar. They cancel each other out when they come into contact but only in the right ratio. If you mix a little vinegar with a lot of baking soda it won’t get rid of all the baking soda and vice-versa.
Asta made it work so much because even before getting anti magic and his first sword he was training his body to the point that he was doing stuff normal people can’t
Exactly! Many of his early feats of physical strength are near impossible because he has been training for 10+ YEARS by the time the series even starts
Honestly, even after all he’s been through I still don’t think Asta has even accessed all the benefits of anti magic. People also seem to go in the opposite direction and claim anti magic is completely dog sh*t without asta, discounting and of its unique abilities. Namely it’s weapon enchantment, imagine if asta found a good blacksmith (maybe some dwarves if they exist) gets a whole arsenal of different weapons, and enchants them with anti magic. He’d become a whole Toji with an armory of weapons with unique power he can call upon at any time. Anti magic Bow and arrow, axes, shields, throwing knives, chains and even cannons (since them exist and asta is definitely strong enough to carry one).
@@Br0ku I get that, but part of that is also because asta was still a noob at using it. He was powerless for most of life and then suddenly get this wholly unique power, can’t really expect him to display its best qualities right out the gate. Like Deku with one for all, as they learned more about this power they could use it better. Also could you do a top 10 magic attribute video?😁
Would anti magic even be able to "enchant" other weapon types and even if it could would they be assimilated into the grimoire since they aren't swords, i mean the grimoires original magic is sword magic not weapon magic so i would assume only swords can be equipped from the grimoire. tbh i can see him being able to enchant other weapons but the only time we have seen anti magic have full control over the weapons is from the ritual with liebe who could control them and use them without even holding them.
you can't really argue anti-magic is overpowered when swapping it out for literally any other form of magic makes Asta wayyyy more busted. You could argue that Asta himself is overpowered because of how much more hardworking he is than antagonists, but hard work making a difference is literally the core theme of the story.
The amount of people that always looks at Asta's anti magic like it's the same as Batman using kryptonite. Asta made that power work, and even if you remove the main gimmick of it, it's still energy at the end of the day. Black Clover made it clear many times that it wasn't overpowered. It comes in clutch, but not always overwhelming in every battle.
Anti magic is busted, but you need a certain type of person to get its full potential out. Asta was able to make the most of it due to having such a toned body, knowing the right people, acquiring multiple magic swords, learning kenjutsu, learning ki, being a prodigy in his own right when it comes to learning new concepts and of course his super natural mentality to never give up. This magic type is still the anti thesis of the series though, Asta is usually called upon to fight the big bads, not because he's the strongest, but because every villain uses magic and Asta is on paper the most suited to oppose them. In this regard it's absolutely broken. Essentially Anti magic at it's best is better than any single magic type at it's best. I dont't think this is a criticism though because, like I mentioned before Asta has to put in a lot of work to get the most out of his abilities. He's usually going up against people with decades of experience over him or people with multiple magic types or powerful long lived creatures like devils and Elves.
see that is the thing. Anti magic is like a baseline power system. its not partially good at anything. its just okay at everything. instead of how most other magic's are. they will have something you can focus on in terms of power. anti magic doesn't have that. where something like fire will have +5 attack and strength. or how light has like +10 to speed. anti magic seems to more more like +1 a crossed the board. it is just Asta being Asta is what makes it more or less that strong. oh I need to be faster better carry this heavy sword while I sprint around to build speed. oh I need to get strong better start lifting weights to build strength. its kind of like a game were you are stuck with picking classes. you have to stick to those classes but Asta just said nah. I mean other people don't have to stick to those classes but they just seem to do that because of what magic they have. they play to their strengths which is smart but also limiting. Asta doesn't really have a strength so he plays to what he needs to be. letting him grew in ways that others will just over look. putting exp points into leveling each stat. over the classic fool of just putting all your points into your classes focused ability. big glass cannon behaver. over Asta a good around about boyo
You do make good points. I be forgetting that devil union isnt a property of anti magic. If asta only had anti magic and was regular mage hed probably be more of a support mage that would help assist magic knights
Well I think anti magic the idea of the ability is over powered. But ofc as its been shown in the anime that a magic/ability is as strong as the user even if it’s over powered. During elf arc, we seen the difference of power when a elf used magic compared to a human. When the elf’s in control of the original users body had used their magic, they did bigger and stronger attacks we never seen the original owners use before. For example luck has never used the lightning transformation till later in the manga but the elf used it easily with no training. Now a devil in possession of a magic is even stronger. Patri when got possessed with negative mana, his light magic got amped by a lot. Now anti magic, asta is just a human like the witch said he is nothing special just manaless. Anti magic is overpowered but in asta hands it’s just powerful due to his conditions. Now liebe is like really young in devil years? He got casted out by his own kind for having no magic. I have no doubt with growth liebe would become the strongest devil. Technically only thing that can beat anti magic is physical things since it can’t bypass non magic. In the world of black clover where magic is dominant, technically everyone would have to rely on physical attributes to beat it.
The combination of anti magic, lichts insane swords, astas will and (Likely) Devil Genetics, Ki, And Arcs on Arcs of sword experience is what makes it seem "OP". But thats fine imo because its not JUST the effect of anti magic, its everything that it took to get there thats winning fights. Thats by definition efficient writing.
It wasnt that anti magic is op, its the fact it was the answer to a good outcome in basically every situation. It becomes op if the character is op in their own right, in which asta basically never giving up, traning to his fullest everyday and him wanting to be the wizard king or the strongest. From what i assume, for every spell asta cuts through he needs an equal ammount of anti magic as magic that the spell has. Asta made it op.
Asta not being called an underdog, and you making a video on why this is false is the same as Clyde making that video on why PlagueofGripes is wrong about Naruto not being an underdog. Because it's the same concept, they think just because the MC was given immense latent potential, it means they were never the underdog of the story, even though society has been treating these two harshly for being different than the rest.
This is so true as Asta beat liebe with pure strength and toughness. Anti magic is just complimentary to asta seeing as he has no mana power. Liebe himself isn’t strong but with Asta, they compensate for each others weaknesses
I'm still watching the video but wanted to get something out before I finish, I think Asta should still be considered overpowered in relative terms because Antimagic is still an arcane stage type magic, arcane stage magic just has this tendency of , by changing the rules of standard magic combat, they can often punch significantly above their weight class, probably the best examples would be Vanessa and Grey, both of which severely breach the gap in power in the fights they participate in because of the utility their magic provides. Anti magic is on the lower end of this utility for arcane stage magic, but I think its what allows Asta to punch above his own power level in certain ocassions
When you make that video about asta being an underdog you should use other main characters to compare him to like ichigo, Deku and naruto respectfully. As well as how their powers factor into that. Or detract from that. Might I also recommend having other CZcamsrs for the video in case they know more knowledge that you may lack? Just a suggestion. Also damn this video is good! 18:52 and we still don’t know the absolute power of time magic which still makes the guy all the more scary and keeps you wondering how exactly is asta really going to beat this guy? Yikes!
Like I said in the poll, it's only good cause not many people have fought that magic type, but it's also asta's hard work and battle iq with his team fights and pure will power in solo fights that make it as strong as it is. Also W sponsor
I'm glad you make this point because people try to make the same argument for characters like Luffy because of what his Devil Fruit was revealed to be. Just assuming the character was special from the start. Not realizing that their exact mindset is EXACTLY the thing theses types of shows are refuting. Everybody's got special potential. Whoever actually achieves it is up to the person.
luffy, asta or naruto all were gifted with a seemingly strong power but it's not the power carrying the user but the user carrying the power thats why there power seems overpowerd whil the user of the power train to master and make that power seems strong if you to give "ruber"fruit to anyone else than luffy he would be unable to weaponise or use it bettter than luffy same for naruto asta and other shonen protagoniste it is only trough sheer training and hard work that there power slwowly become extremly strong.(sorry for all the typo or just the bad english😅)
@@curtis1636Except in Astas case AM isn't as powerful as People make it out to be For example Naruto was An Uzumaki and was a 9 tails jinchuriki(basically endless reserves) and was a Reincarnation of God, Luffy in the beginning till Gear 4 was something people will call it completely fights with his creativity though until it turns out to be the most OP Devil Fruit. Sure Asta was Gifted but it isn't exactly as strong as any of these 2
true, I genuinely do not know how anyone else in the one piece verse could have seriously awakened his devil fruit it would have just stayed a basic rubber fruit, you could even say the same about Katakuri
In a world where magic is everything Asta is the living embodiment of it NOT being the case. He will break the classissim of his country. I like that Asta could only use his Anti-Magic sword ruimentary. He needed to learn to handle Anti-Magic in his own way. Asta needing help in battles was a great way to form genuine bonds with his friends just what he wanted when you consider he's an orphan. He was the trump card in battles and the gang cleared the way for him. So he was during a specific time not able to win with Anti-Magic alone. Yet he received the demon-dweller and demon-destroyer to save people dear to him. Now he has refined the Anti-Magic attribute to a very leathal degree. And Asta is still very young there's much room to grow. Like use the swords in the same way Licht has. He inherited fighting styles from underwater temple,clover ,diamond, heart kingdom, elve tribes and land of the sun. I think we can all agree that Asta at the end of the series will be the strongest even outside the clover kingdom. Mostly through his fighting spirit and persistence.
@@Br0ku well, judging from the length you wanted to make clear that people should stop making a complain about Anti-Magic being overpowered. Like you were really tired of arguing about it which I understand.
A thought just came to me. Asta isn't even close to maxing out Anti Magics potential. He could pull a Yuno. Imagine this you attack Asta but get blocked by an Anti Magic shield than he charged at you with his sword. You run and Asta manipulates his Anti magic into projectiles to hit you since he can just manipulate his swords now.oh the ideas
Anti-magic is op. Everyone is born with some kind of magically affinity. If someone is born with anti-magic, then there would be no setbacks since it would just be used as any other magic and just nullify everything. Anti-magic is op, but black clover implemented it in a way that has setbacks.
Please make a video on 10 fastest characters in blackclover and I agree with your opinion anti magic is not op However asta make it op by constantly improving his technique still his physical limits as well as time limit always keep its balance with series
My brother in christ Anti magic itself is the OP part here as it has the advantage in combat over literally every other type of magic we have seen. Theres literally NO fight in the series where asta would have been better off not having anti magic over (non OP) magic ... literally if asta had MP instead of AM he'd have lost the first ever fight in the series .....as the guy no diffed yuno a genius Mage who is equivalent/ stronger than asta at all points in the series with his MP nullification chains YES getting anti magic doesnt automatically make you god of the verse and it has its own unique struggles ... but that rule seems to apply to all non devils (the devils are unargueably OP)... julius had TIME magic and it still took him decades to get to the top of the clover kingdom. Look i like asta and im not trying to say he didnt work hard ... but if you give him any other (by your definition non OP) power and think he'd be as strong your reaching *toned down the arguementativeness of the comment at the end of the day were all clover fans here even if we diagree
@@Chougui412 elucidate my brother... what reason other than plot armour could asta have to beat revichi, langris, zagred or lucifero with say fire magic ????
@@lewisfaley7823 the same way as magna, luck ect...by working hard? You acting like there is none strong fire users around in BC And with true magic,Ki/zetten and possibly the fire spirit there is no reason why he wouldn't be as strong if not even stronger
It is op after last chapter, it’s like tabata replied to your vid, Asta gave the black bulls antimagic and it’s crazy how the magic element they use hasn’t changed, he absorbed their magic with the demon dweller and gave them antimagic Exemple: luck had lightning magic -> anti magic lightning (from blue to black thunder)
@@Br0kuGiving people huge power ups is op what? Even if they’re not on astas level being able to fight relative to asta and fight against opponents they would stand no chance in hell against is op.
@@constantdreams7918 my guy… you are the one saying they are relative to Asta. There is NOTHING that suggests they are relative to him yet. Asta just made the black bulls look like fodder while he was in BASE. He just used his BASE AM power to give them the energy. Literally zero evidence to suggest they could hold a candle to Asta.
@@Br0ku “The enemies over there are still wayyyy more powerful than us” What do you think that means? The power boost asta gave them is tremendous, and relative means to be able to fight close to asta and not get bodied all of them got tremendous boost, and thats not op to you? How would they help asta if the boost he gave them wasn’t making them at least relative make it make sense.
@@constantdreams7918 ….. did you not see Asta in base one shot Damnatio? The black bull could solo a Paladin and that puts them on the level of… checks notes… base Asta.
If asta had mana his sword would nullify it If asta didn't have a six pack on each arm he wouldn't be able to lift his first sword LIEBE, THE DEMON THAT CONTROLS THE SWORDS can't lift his own sword he uses telekinesis
1:14 liebe in the devil realm has anti magic and every other devil is “get the fuck outta here with that shit, that anti magic shit is a fucking party trick.”
Anti Magics peak is only possible because of who Asta is and what he's done. If I say Anti magic is op it in reality doesn't just make him strongest in the verse. It's just an insanely strong energy/type in BC. Only problem is that you must have literally 0 magic and must be jacked to use it. That's why Asta is the perfect host. He is the one character who can fully bring out Anti Magics power
When they don’t realize anti magic is the strongest power in existence but you have to learn it’s potential he could make an anti magic zone making all magic that could possibly effect him just fade away and not work in certain areas and even control it so it only works on certain people so he can super nerf anyone as well as make it even easier on his team
I hate when people say that he has had many problems with magic it's not like he was always stoping every attack at all times it was only till now that he can stop magic just by being near him
Pretty damn much and tabata had to work around that to make asta grow in being able to harness more more down the line. not that hard to process honestly. The strongest characters in the verse fear asta for a reason cause he’s broken 😂
Asta has shown us time and again that through training and hard work you can achieve the goals you set out. As he’s said “My Magic is Never giving up” 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽🔥
When the only person that can "rival" asta is someone is 2× blessed by mana loved by a spirit poccesses 2 magic types and is a tactical and intelligent genius, then yeah anti magic is overpowered. That is a level of power no normal mage could accomplish even if they trained harder than asta. Every person to beat asta did so by having overpowered magic, insane physical abilities and skill, or just enough mana or a strong enough attack to overwhelm the current application of antimagic. Any mage of the same caliber as asta has to work extra hard to bypass anti magic.
In a fight between 2 people of equal stats antimagic trivialize the entire arsenal of the other more often than not. For every new option of antimagic application asta gets he gets rid of a 100 options is enemy has. All of asta abilities boils down two how can he get antimagic to the desired target or location.
This is wrong considering anti-magic can only negate things it scales too. FYI in thr latest chapter Lucius tanked an anti-magic fireball explosion from Magns with no damage. Magna couldn"t even damage the Lucius's clone with anti-magic until Lucius mana was split between him and Luck, then ganged up on him to take him out. Always powee negation already existed before anti-magic in verse. Anti-magic is just one firm of magic negation. Not mention anti-magic is canoncally considered a low tier power in verse.
@superkamiguru4389 Also, to your second comment, not quite because anti-magic still needs to exert the same amount of force to negate the magic. Anti-magic still expends energy to negate magic since it canoncally does not negate kinetic energy (stated in chapter 4) Partial Devil union Asta couldn't even cut through Lucius's body in their first battle, yet it could cut his magic, while current Asta in base form can cut through much easier, almost like butter. So no its not overpowered considering anti-magic always gets negged by magic stronger than it.
Do you have any theories on Julius? We know that similar to the elf inside of Yuno's body and Patry, Julius is not the primary soul of Lucius' body. I wonder how that came to be. Was he affected by a reincarnation spell, similar to the elves? Or was there some other circumstance behind it?
Anti-Magic was indeed OP, the issue was how it was used. It's like how Nero was viewed as garbage for "opening and closing" aka sealing/unsealing magic. Yet when used correctly, was OP.
All anti magic does and all it has ever done is even the playing field for asta and once everything is equalized that's when his true strength shows which is the strength that he worked hard to gain. if you think about what would happen if someone else got the 5 leaf grimoire then anti magic suddenly becomes a useless ability because only asta can wield the sword due to his hard work and training. anti magic in and of itself isn't overpowered, its the man that uses it that makes it such a strong ability.
You know, Anti-magic is probably the most interesting "nuh-uh" ability I've seen in anything. It manages to be powerfull without resorting to just depowering the villains, and have a fleshed out moveset without straying from the theme.
Love people putting effort into a magic system with cool abilities for the writer to make the main character schtick to completely nullify the cool stuff they create.
First?? Edit: Great video, I just believe that earlier into the series he didn’t have as much mastery or uses to Anti-Magic. Currently though he definitely had to make a lot of sacrifices and work to even reach that. W vid‼️🔥
15:41 this gives me so much satisfaction because I had a argument I think last week about if Lucifero was at 100% during this fight he would've shit all over true devil union Asta but the people devolved to argueing with me useing feats he Asta did ATER this fight to prove Asta would beat a 100% Lucifero and it was infuriating cause I believe like 3 people were trying to prove me wrong about a fight useing feats that didn't happen untill that fight was over lol
Dude got a whole ass devil and can nullify magic in a world where magic is everything. Stop acting like that shit ain’t strong asf. The man had to work hard but so do most MC’s even if they have an OP power. Naruto got the strongest tailed beast n had to go through hell to control it. Deku got a quirk from the top hero and has hella sub abilities too but had to work hella hard. Shit even Luffy has a mythical zoan god fruit n he had to fucking die to get the power up lmao. I get it’s for the video but this shit is just not true.
THANK YOU!!! Anti-Magic isn't overpowered at all, it's just used to level the playing field. Which means Was Asta is the most underdog character ever, more so than Naruto and Deku. I love how much Asta lives up to his ideals of anyone being able to become great even without magic if they work hard enough. Asta is still strong in his own right and he's proved that he earned his anti magic. Even then he still had to struggle. Asta's real magic is never giving up.
Only about 5 minutes in: Asta's ability is only "Overpowered" in the sense that it's a hard-counter to the magic system as a whole. However, since the time it was introduced, it's been stated, confirmed, and repeated that Asta's only that good with Anti-Magic because of his physical ability; something that he had to train for and would otherwise be useless in this world. Asta's ability is the ultimate equalizer meaning that neither person could use Magic; and that means that it comes down to Physical Ability (something that several villains can overpower him at unless he gets support from his friends).
"If anti-magic is so overpowered, why was he still struggling?" Because the writer(s) wanted him to. Lol, kidding aside (although the above is accurate)... a better answer would be that anti-magic is so overpowered that they limit Asta himself. He doesn't know how to use it well. The reason it is overpowered is because he is able to rival someone, who is more powerful than most BECAUSE they have a greater understanding of their particular magic than most, despite being nowhere near as adept with anti-magic than that person is with their magic. I don't think this ruins the show and feel the writer(s) do a decent job still making him struggle despite him having an OP ability. But yes, the ability to nullify magic regardless of its type and strength is absolutely OP... ESPECIALLY in a world that is literally built upon magic. It would be like walking into a kingdom made of/by slugs (gross) with a full salt shaker. Great video though. Thank you for sharing.
Regardless of strength is a lie considering in the heart kingdom the water spirit Capture him with With chains made of water magic Also when he was fighting the ancient demon He didn't Have enough power to destroy it spells it didn't immediately disappear
Keep in mind is a power source that is very unknown in the black clover verse it a power source that asta can't easily find a teacher how the source works and how to manipulate it too, normal mages has a higher advantage chances to find teacher to teach them how mana works and their mana sense is compartable form them in their surrounding area to be able to utilize mana quicker, but unlike asta his anti-mana is not compatibable with mana in his surrounding area and he lack the mana sense so he is forced to use a harder and a much difficult type of senseory skill he need to unluck by himself thankfully he has some level of talent to learn Ki quickly and quite physically gifted, granted he did have some teachers to teach how to utilize the full power of the devil anti-magic and ki, but in the end of the day it all depend in asta, if asta failed the ritual he is dead and secondarly if asta didn't trained his body and wasn't bit talented he wouldnt be able to achieved Ki and and how zetten to work, too. Lastly I think asta wouldnt extactly learn how mana zone work since the only way to use mana zone id you the user is sureound by natural man, but asts isn't compatible in the surrounding area, at most asta can just create a barrier to look similar to anti-mana.
I wished light magic would still be a thing. Imagine William with light magic side by side with Yami's dark magic. How amazing this would have been when you remember Patry used Lumiere's attribute to threaten the clover kingdom.
IDK man, the amount of times where anti-magic was the only answer to the solution... I know anti magic works because of who asta is but it still carried him hard
Exactly. This doesn’t mean Asta didn’t work hard but anti magic literally negates magic in a world where magic is everything. At its full potential it’s clearly the strongest power in the verse.
I wouldn't say anti magic is op, but that fact that it was coupled with sword magic that is op. Asta had to make it work, sure, but give the same Grimoire to yami or licht and they would probably be as strong as asta in no time (land of the rising sun folks too)
If I'm not mistaken, amp makes asta this strong because it's almost the same as the magic attribute itself. I mean it can: + increase his stats in his devil form( like mereoleona) + give him ability to copy a mage's skill ( yami dimension slash, am wave) + anti mana zone ( latest chapter against damnatio) At the start, I thought amp was just a ability to cancel magic. Both asta and liebe don't have mana so liebe shouldn't be able to buff asta like magic. Since asta's first devil form in the witches' forest, amp most likely became the magic itself. But I guess it's fair enough because asta wouldn't have come this far imagine without that.
Another thing, anti magic is not an atribute, is an energy wich means that still need a way to manifest… asta is only useful becouse the grimoire was about swords, only having the antimagic is usseless becouse you would be like Mars, wich means he have to absorbe antoher attack and nobody else have antimagic… and even though they gave him the useless way to manifest antimagic wich is: 3 FREAKING SWORDS THAT WEIGH TOO MUCH FOR A NON TRAINES HUMAN TO WIELD, and all of that just to wield it you still need to know how to use a sword and that shit is not easy, trust me i tried it
Asta being incompetent and weak doesn't make the power less overpowered. Look at okuyasu is jojos. Hes dumb and incompetent but his stand za hando absolutely is one of the most broken and overpowered abilities a character could have. His inability to properly use it, does not weaken the power itself.
Anti magic sounds OP in a vaccum but in Black Clover it really isn't. Anti magic is great hax but there's many many hax in Black Clover which are just better. Slicing magic can cut anything, magic or non magic. Invisible magic lets any attack pass through you, Dream magic is the most over powered, unless you have dream magic only other way to defeat dream magic is to get away from it. And Time magic is so haxy that character need hax in order to fight it. And there's many more. Put anti magic in other series and its the most OP in thar verse. But in Black Clover it's kinda regular
@@GMYSTERYICTNF... Its literally the opposite. Anti-magic would not be op UNLESS its in black clover where magic is the only commonly used fighting system. If ki would be utilized more then sure itd have some balance to it. But every enemy asta faces has a chance of over 99% to use magic and thus just lose due to anti-magic being broken in that "vacuum"
@@Grayson-WinchesterNot really… the Omni trix is op either way you have access too infinite aliens even if you don’t use it the way Ben does you’re still gonna be strong as hell.
I don’t like asta saying he wasn’t blessed with any magic. It’s like bro you have anti magic which negates other magics, is a top tier ability, and was perfectly designed for you that’s pretty blessed to me. Asta has the physical strength and the mindset that was paired with a grimoire that requires exactly that. Asta you were blessed that’s like getting the perfect build and still not taking it as a blessing.
If Asta wasn't physically the fastest and strongest dude in the universe, he would have straight up just died in Saussy village on his first mission and nobody would have ever heard of anti magic ever again.
"In general, anti-magic abilities can provide a significant advantage, as they may allow a character to negate or resist the effects of magical attacks, spells, and abilities that would otherwise be devastating. This can make the character wielding anti-magic seem very powerful in comparison to predominantly magical opponents. Anti-magic is a fresh power, and to me, it has a lot of potential and room to grow strong with time."
He isnt, within 1 year he became stronger than captain level. Within 2-3 years he became way stronger than the wizard king julius. Yeah it was hard physical training but the 1000 pushups he mentioned arent the same as doing it irl since these chracters are superhuman easily without magic
Hard Disagree. Anti-Magic in a world that subsists on and is fundamentally centered around magic is, by definition, Overpowered. First, the definition of "if it has a great cost it cannot be overpowered" is incorrect. It doesnt matter whether something is "I can only use it once" condition, it is the overall result and the effect that ultimately matters. It is logic of its application in conjunction with verse and canonical statements made that make something overpowered. If 2 people are in combat and 1 is stronger than the other and the weaker one pulls out a technique that coincidentally trivializes the established power discrepancy for practically no other reason than to virtually 1 tap or "neg" the opposing individual, then regardless of drawback (be it death, permanent injury, etc) it would be Overpowered. Effort put into obtaining it isnt a balance to it not being overpowered. To be overpowered is to look at the ability itself, removed from conditions that dont stem from the ability itself. Conditions derived by the character and placed on by the author are separate from the conditions of the ability which is proven if characters who have existed with the same ability didn't have those same restrictions and conditions. What you should've established first was if *Astas VERSION and APPLICATION* of Anti-Magic was Overpowered *as it pertains to his specific character* . Because the title is "Anti-Magic was never overpowered". Meaning this statement encompasses Anti-Magic in *general* the *Concept* of Anti-Magic. So the more appropriate "Asta's Anti-Magic isnt Overpowered" would make more sense. In this case it is, without question, 100% factual that Anti-Magic in a world that is established to be governed by magic would be Overpowered. Notice how virtually every interaction the series gives to try to explain how it "isnt" overpowered is never challenging the *concept* of Anti-Magic itself. Rather it was always an alternate route of circumventing the Anti-Magic. And you even showed proof of this. The fact that it is the physical force of the magic (in the form of projectiles) that remains is what causes damage is this circumvention. Reading again through 270-273 of the Nacht fight, at no time was it stated that his shadows werent being affected by the sword. Nacht *literally* states "as long as you dont defeat my body the shadows wont disappear" This isnt a statement of the shadows permanence but the fact that he will create *infinite amounts* of shadows. To prove this, Asta who was completely binded by the shadows literally tore himself loose through the use of his transformation and anti-magic application. If it was your statement that was correct, he wouldn't have been able to remove those bindings because to quote you "it would be that strong and have resistance to power and nullification". But that isnt the case. *Literally 8 panels later in the SAME CHAPTER he changes to the Katana and you can literally see him cutting off the right leg off of one of the shadows* . Meaning the Shadows *ARE* being affected by his swords. They cannot challenge the concept of Anti-Magic because it is already established and reiterated to be the antithesis of all magic. So they develop reasoning and logic to still damage and fight against anti-magic to try to reduce its "overpowered" visual to the audience through means of adding *CHARACTER conditions* . Example: Anti-Magic does *not* have this innate property of being attracted to magic. So what did they do in order to add some semblance of "balance" to Black Asta? Make it so that Black Asta is attracted to magic. For what reasoning? Because it would quote "allow him to not have to consciously react to attacks". Which again is a CHARACTER Conditin and not the condition of Anti-Magic the *ability* . This is, again, a circumvention Anti-Magic to *try* to make it balanced. Anti-Magic negates Magically induced regeneration. Why would it be expected to have worked against a *BIOLOGICAL, PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTE* of a Hydra-like Dragon? You use Vetto's *magic based regeneration* and tried to compare it to a *natural and physical healing factor* and using that as a "see its a contradiction" point when it isnt. That would be like saying "Asta stopped the regeneration of this magical super villain but he cant stop a Troll from regenerating" One is magical, the other isnt. - The video doesn't actually convince or prove that Anti-Magic as an ability isnt overpowered. It is. Rather this video shows how the author is trying to reign in an obviously overpowered ability through means of writing.
If a power meant to fight against magic isn't doing well enough to keep you alive against magic then it ISN'T OP. Op would mean that he could just touch magic and it would dissipate.
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but broku didnt already made a video why anti Magic is not overpowerd and i commented this before i watchthe video
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now i habe watched your video and as i alredy knew if asta got magic he pr would be way too strong not the stronget but enough to put hin as wizard king Level and dann this people habe a thicker skull what i usualy watch just accept asta is not overpowerd most of his streath came from him also i would realy want to see a video who actaully worked harder mydoria or asta bc there is a lot of debate
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20:09 “please tell me how Anti-Magic is Overpowered”. Alright Broku your on. Since you don’t believe we should be zombies that listen to everything every youtuber says I want a chance to think alongside you. If you’ll listen that is.
Now the first reason you stated and the one you used quite a lot was that “you need to be physically strong enough to wield the swords” 6:18 . I completely disagree with this statement. As shown by liebe in the devil binding ritual, someone with innate anti-magic can control and move the swords without even touching them. This actually removes the requirement that you need to be as strong as Asta to lift the swords, as if you can control them to the point of actually making them float/fly mid air then you make them as light as you want in order to swing them if you wanted to do it manually. So no you don’t actually have to run through tornados and train for 10 years to lift these swords and if you use the swords like these they also wont slow you down by the way. Now do I think Asta can swing the swords harder than a person doing that well yes he literally used one hand to send a sword being used against him flying in that same ritual, but to be fair he had, time to train while liebe was in a book, so there are some arguments to be made.
Next you mentioned how you would have to face discrimination 7:15 , this is only partially true. Its true if your living in the clover kingdom not much else, the reasoning is as you said yourself the clover kingdom is a society were magic means everything. It’s the same as how being a devil host will get you executed in the clover kingdom, but being a devil host in spade benefitted you for a period of time. If Asta simply went to live in the other kingdoms after getting anti-magic he would not have to deal with the discrimination.
After this you said “ Once Asta gets more swords and his black form, then he’s overpowered” 10:58 . I agree with this statement in the sense that asta gets stronger with each sword, but this brings me to one of my major problems with your argument. Your trying to prove that ANTI-MAGIC is NOT OVERPOWERED because ASTA is NOT OVERPOWERED. This is fundamentally wrong. For example, using this logic I could make the argument that light magic is weak because king clover a user of light magic who has had his magic for years couldn’t even save himself from falling and needed Sekke to save him. Now while everyone would love to be saved by Dark lord Sekke, I’m pretty sure the king didn’t intentionally not save himself for this reason. Now the obvious retort to this is that there are more people we've seen to disprove this such as patry and the first wizard king, but lets assume for the sake of the argument that king clover was the only person we've ever seen with light magic. everone would call light magic trash. This is what I mean, just because Asta hadn’t figured out how to use anti-magic properly does not stop it from being overpower, you need to separate the power from the person and analyze it. ANTI-MAGIC IS OVERPOWER, Asta simply didn’t how to use it. In other words ANTI-MAGIC IS OVERPOWERED, ASTA ISNT OVERPOWERED, there IS a difference. Since you also watch jujutsu kaisen let me use an example from it to further illustrate my point. we know that "Fumihiko Takaba" has a curse technique on power with gojo's limitless, being "Comedian" yet as powerful as it is and despite that it is literally told to us that it is on power with limitless because Fumihiko Takaba isn’t the smartest tool in the shed he cant use it nearly to the point where it would even be close to limitless. The point of this statement isn’t to say that comedian is overpowered, its to say that if a person doesn’t know how to use a power its going to make that power look weaker than it actually is.
I also don’t blame him for not knowing how antimagic works, he had anti-magic for less than a year. And using that fact how long did it take asta to reach the level of a vice captain using anti-magic. there are few magic types which asta could have used to get this strong. For instance, at the end of the video you say “Let’s say he gets a random ass three leaf clover with fire magic” 21:13 . I tell you with 100% confidence, that if asta had NO PLOTARMOR, and he got that 3 leaf fire grimore instead of his anti-magic grimore on the same day, he would have gotten clapped by langris. I don’t see what spell he could have thrown at langris that langris wouldn’t have immediately sent to the shadow realm. Please elaborate if you disagree.
I would also like to address that one requirement to get good with antimagic is that you need to go through a devil binding ritual. while this was definitely true in asta's case your overgeneralizing it. bear with me for a second. the reason I say this is because if you really think about it asta didnt get antimagic in chaper 1, he got an antimagic sword. whats the difference? well the one who actually had antimagic was liebe and not asta. asta had the swords that were imbued with antimagic but not antimagic itself. he only started to really get antimagic during his first devil transformation, the problem here is that even with that he was only using trickles of antimagic. the devil binding ritual was for him to be able to use all of liebe's power (antimagic), but lets assume that it was actually asta who manifested antimagic. he wouldnt need a devil binding ritual be able to actually use antimagic since he'd just have it. and we know that its not impossible for humans to have the same type of magic as a devil without being connected to them for instance beelzbub and langris, so i dont think its unfair to say that if asta manifested his own antimagic in chapter 1 he wouldnt need to go through the binding ritual. but even if you want to argue that it would have been impossible for asta to develope antimagic on his own, remember that your argument is "anti magic is not overpowered" and not "asta is not overpowered" so if we look at antimagic in isolation without asta, well we know liebe acquired antimagic and can uses it freely and he didnt need a binding ritual [he needed the binding ritual to get out of the grimore not use antimagic freely] so that means it is possible to have antimagic and use it freely without a binding ritual.
Also I find it interesting, how you think that Asta not being able to one shot the KING OF DEVILS who has likely been alive for more than 800 YEARS, does not make ANTI-MAGIC who by this point had only been training for around 2 years overpowered. Like you do realize that there were captains there, who mind you had been training their magic for multiple years and they all admitted that asta’s ANTI-MAGIC was the only thing that gave them a chance of winning. This means that ANTI-MAGIC is so strong that 2 years of training it is enough to surpass other characters with years of experience. And you can’t even make the point the point that these captains didn’t train, since we found out that fuegoleon was personally trained by a formal magic knight (Sister Theresa) since childhood and we don’t even consider him one of the Strong captains so what about the rest.
Even when you state that lucifero was only using a fraction of his power, it doesn’t prove that ANTI-MAGIC is not overpowered, because if someone can use 2 years of training to defeat 50% of an 800 YEAR OLD KING OF DEMONS. That means that ANTI-MAGIC has the potential to reach 50% of an 800 YEAR of experience. Please tell me a SINGLE magic type that can do this. Lucius and Yuno are both probably strong enough to pull of this feat, but not only do they both have 2 magic types but they’ve also had their magic for their entire live while I would say yet again that asta only had anti magic for 2-3 years
Assuming you dont blatantly disagree with what ive said up to this point, that would mean that ive proving that antimagic and be used without needing insane physical strength and without the need for a devil binding ritual. meaning the only thing stopping antimagic from crossing the boundaries of highcost to overpowered per your definintion of overpowered is the fact that asta feels pain when he uses antimagic. now ill be honest with you. I'm a bit on the fence with this one. i haven't seen asta complain about pain from antimagic since binding with liebe, i also have never seen liebe complain about antimagic hurting him, and since we know that in union asta and liebe feel the same pain i think it would be fair to say that if liebe experiences no pain from antimagic then neither would asta. we also know that while in the grimore liebe was creating and covering himself in antimagic, and i doubt he would have done that if it was actively hurting him. which lead me to the conclusion that liebe a user of antimagic doesnt feel pain when using antimagic. should this be true, that would mean pain is not an inherite property of antimagic. Paired with everything else ive said that would make antimagic Overpower by your definition, because that would make antimagic No cost high reward in general. now of course since its never been stated i would understand why you would just reject this. but still i would like to say one last time that antimagic being overpowered does not translate to asta being overpowered.
Side note: I hate the argument that without asta’s physical strength, someone with antimagic would only be able to nullify magic and not be able to actually knock people out. We’ve seen that anti-magic slashes actually do physical damage when asta rescued the spade nation people. And even if you want to argue that he couldn’t use slashes without the second sword, remember that the first sword that came with the grimore is heavy enough to the point were if you fling it at someone like liebe does it likely just kill them.
I will always stand on the fact that Asta is the only reason anti magic is even remotely strong or overpowered.
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Like Ben who is using the Omnitrix in way nobody else would.
Well anti magic can only be used by Asta because of his lack mana
But still say anti magic can be strong on its own as well, just a matter of how you use it.
i think so too
@@JDWalker495duh, they mean hypothetically. anti magic is indeed strong on its own but it’s only AS POWERFUL bc of asta. anyone else in this show wouldn’t be as poweful as asta with anti magic, maybe another commoner but not likely.
When u forgot that his grimoire was once considered useless. Asta just made it work due to his mutation. He turned his curse into a great gift
That never happen
@@nachjimo85did ypu what the sane show what do you mean
@@The_Witch_Labno one really knows he has grimiore, when everyone gets it in library he didn't. It was mid-fight. Also Asta didn't "mutate"
@@devaraft By his mutation he meant that asta having no magic power
@@afrozashiqkhokhar4520Yeah, but is that really a mutation?
I've never seen his anti-magic as overpowered I've always seen it as a leveler. Here are all these Wizards with God complexes because they were born with magic that let them warp time or space or some other ridiculous ability by flexing a finger or something like that and here is Asta able to force them all on an even playing field where they proceeded to throw Tantrums because for the first time they have to struggle.
Asta MADE it work. On its own it ain't special, but thanks to his effort he's in a whole different league now
true!
He pretty much exist in his own league right now. Only rivaled by Yuno and Lucius
I think that’s going too far in the other direction, cause anti is still a powerfull weapon on its own.
Just not ALL POWERFUL as some claim
@@JDWalker495 oh yeah no doubt, start of series and beyond it's a menace
But Asta himself put in the work to actually swing those HEAVY anti magic swords, even the Wizard King was shocked at Demon Dweller's weight
As a certain Witch Queen once said: “You're not anything special. Not in the slightest. But that's what makes you special"
black clover fans always forget that Asta trained a LOT to master anti magic and that not everyone could do what he did
Not just train in anti magic, but even sword combat, analysis, muscles and the will to never give up. Even with his sword skills, characters who were more skilled than him could even still whoop him. Like Conrad who was basically using one sword and one hand but still managed to beat him up and to go as long as stabbing him.
Agreed, but he needs to do more martial arts training cause he has a record of losing to people skilled in that aspect eg. Conrad, Ichika, Dante, Lucius, Mereoleona etc.
@@JDWalker495In all fairness, all these people have vastly more experience than him with most being 10+ years older
@@grimlock7909 true
@@JDWalker495Those people were all stronger than Asta when they first fought it was more because of a power difference than Asta just not being skilled. Like with Conrad once he got his devil arm he was pressuring him pretty well even though they were probably pretty close to equal.
To me Anti magic is just another magic attribute in the power system which gives it both pros and cons due to its nature. It’s not overpowered but it’s also not as underpowered as some people would also say. I would personally put it in the top 10 magic attributes series, but it’s far from flawless.
Pros: (1) The obvious nullification, reflection or absorption of all magic, basically giving you a type advantage over all other attributes, (2)can be permanently infused into weapons to grant permanent unique effects, (3) Is naturally arcane allowing users to interfere with reality and concepts such as space, time, dimensions and devil biology. (4) synergies extremely well with ki, (5) users are immune to mana sense and mana targeting spells.
Cons: (1) A certain threshold of anti magic is needed to affect large quantities of mana, (2) early usage is limited to imbued weapons which rely on the physical strength of the wielder, (3) Anti magic lacks any form of recovery magic and has no access to mana zone or natural mana.
Other cons also include the fact that your attacks in and of themselves cant be amped by allied magic due to the antimagic in the attacks themselves
@@stercorexd3449 oh right i forgot that compound magic existed 🤦🏾♂️
Though I guess the demon dweller can sub for that
@@JDWalker495well it's not a magical attributes at all
It's the strongest magic of it's magic
@@createaccount9863 bro that makes no sense because it's not a form of magic it's a form of energy that counters
what impresses about tabata's writing on black clover when I first watch it... is how he carefully handled Asta's power progression with Anti-Magic
especially it proves the fact that it doesn't matter on how powerful a weapon, technique or power is it all depends on the person using it
@@ejgatdula6930 Tabata genuinely feels underappreciated. But, looking at what MHA's fandom turned into, i'm somewhat glad about it in part?
Asta broke the power scaling in black clover
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Also its very much always tied in with the power of vfriendhip and teamwork.
Even when he one shots, its near always teamwork tobe able to oneshot.
i feel like asta is really op as a support character for what ever team he is in. negating magic for his other teammates to go and clean up the kill thats how i see asta. just a super important support character.
yeah its like most over people put all their exp points into select stats. then you have Asta just putting exp into each thing he can to be the a good round about fighter
When i started BC I also thought the am is op. But when I saw how many times he got his kicked and needed a group to defeat an enemy, It proved everything.
Tabata did really well maintaining AM power ✌️
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Anti-magic is an underrated concept that doesn't get the credit it deserves imo. It's not overpowered but very practical and essential to the story of Black Clover. All the while in the Black Clover verse, it's a power no ordinary human or devil can wield because of its effects.
good point
Thank you, too many people go to the other side of the spectrum and call it worthless without asta. I say it’s reasonably powerful, top tier, but not all mighty
It interacts uniquely in a world all about magic
I love that it makes himoften relint on teamwork too.
I love every explaination for Asta, he's legitmately the tank getting up afrer being bodied time and time again. Hard work, nothing else, just hard work.
Same! He’s the goat
I think of magic and anti-magic as being like baking soda and vinegar. They cancel each other out when they come into contact but only in the right ratio. If you mix a little vinegar with a lot of baking soda it won’t get rid of all the baking soda and vice-versa.
Asta made it work so much because even before getting anti magic and his first sword he was training his body to the point that he was doing stuff normal people can’t
Exactly! Many of his early feats of physical strength are near impossible because he has been training for 10+ YEARS by the time the series even starts
The entire point of black clover is breaking the norm with your own merrit rather then the power you were given, its not the ability, its the user.
Honestly, even after all he’s been through I still don’t think Asta has even accessed all the benefits of anti magic. People also seem to go in the opposite direction and claim anti magic is completely dog sh*t without asta, discounting and of its unique abilities.
Namely it’s weapon enchantment, imagine if asta found a good blacksmith (maybe some dwarves if they exist) gets a whole arsenal of different weapons, and enchants them with anti magic. He’d become a whole Toji with an armory of weapons with unique power he can call upon at any time. Anti magic Bow and arrow, axes, shields, throwing knives, chains and even cannons (since them exist and asta is definitely strong enough to carry one).
Anti-Magic is not very good starting out. But gets better with a lot of development
@@Br0ku I get that, but part of that is also because asta was still a noob at using it. He was powerless for most of life and then suddenly get this wholly unique power, can’t really expect him to display its best qualities right out the gate. Like Deku with one for all, as they learned more about this power they could use it better.
Also could you do a top 10 magic attribute video?😁
@@JDWalker495 possibly one day
I can see cannon arm guts typa shit here😭
Would anti magic even be able to "enchant" other weapon types and even if it could would they be assimilated into the grimoire since they aren't swords, i mean the grimoires original magic is sword magic not weapon magic so i would assume only swords can be equipped from the grimoire. tbh i can see him being able to enchant other weapons but the only time we have seen anti magic have full control over the weapons is from the ritual with liebe who could control them and use them without even holding them.
you can't really argue anti-magic is overpowered when swapping it out for literally any other form of magic makes Asta wayyyy more busted. You could argue that Asta himself is overpowered because of how much more hardworking he is than antagonists, but hard work making a difference is literally the core theme of the story.
The amount of people that always looks at Asta's anti magic like it's the same as Batman using kryptonite. Asta made that power work, and even if you remove the main gimmick of it, it's still energy at the end of the day. Black Clover made it clear many times that it wasn't overpowered. It comes in clutch, but not always overwhelming in every battle.
Just a useful ability !
@@Br0ku Gotta admit, you ran into people like that right?
Anti magic is busted, but you need a certain type of person to get its full potential out. Asta was able to make the most of it due to having such a toned body, knowing the right people, acquiring multiple magic swords, learning kenjutsu, learning ki, being a prodigy in his own right when it comes to learning new concepts and of course his super natural mentality to never give up.
This magic type is still the anti thesis of the series though, Asta is usually called upon to fight the big bads, not because he's the strongest, but because every villain uses magic and Asta is on paper the most suited to oppose them. In this regard it's absolutely broken. Essentially Anti magic at it's best is better than any single magic type at it's best.
I dont't think this is a criticism though because, like I mentioned before Asta has to put in a lot of work to get the most out of his abilities. He's usually going up against people with decades of experience over him or people with multiple magic types or powerful long lived creatures like devils and Elves.
see that is the thing. Anti magic is like a baseline power system. its not partially good at anything. its just okay at everything. instead of how most other magic's are. they will have something you can focus on in terms of power. anti magic doesn't have that. where something like fire will have +5 attack and strength. or how light has like +10 to speed. anti magic seems to more more like +1 a crossed the board. it is just Asta being Asta is what makes it more or less that strong. oh I need to be faster better carry this heavy sword while I sprint around to build speed. oh I need to get strong better start lifting weights to build strength.
its kind of like a game were you are stuck with picking classes. you have to stick to those classes but Asta just said nah. I mean other people don't have to stick to those classes but they just seem to do that because of what magic they have. they play to their strengths which is smart but also limiting. Asta doesn't really have a strength so he plays to what he needs to be. letting him grew in ways that others will just over look. putting exp points into leveling each stat. over the classic fool of just putting all your points into your classes focused ability. big glass cannon behaver. over Asta a good around about boyo
Sooo about the new manga chapter he can give others anti magic
Lets Not forget that even without Anti Magic, Asta has HANDS
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You do make good points. I be forgetting that devil union isnt a property of anti magic. If asta only had anti magic and was regular mage hed probably be more of a support mage that would help assist magic knights
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Well I think anti magic the idea of the ability is over powered. But ofc as its been shown in the anime that a magic/ability is as strong as the user even if it’s over powered.
During elf arc, we seen the difference of power when a elf used magic compared to a human. When the elf’s in control of the original users body had used their magic, they did bigger and stronger attacks we never seen the original owners use before. For example luck has never used the lightning transformation till later in the manga but the elf used it easily with no training.
Now a devil in possession of a magic is even stronger. Patri when got possessed with negative mana, his light magic got amped by a lot.
Now anti magic, asta is just a human like the witch said he is nothing special just manaless. Anti magic is overpowered but in asta hands it’s just powerful due to his conditions. Now liebe is like really young in devil years? He got casted out by his own kind for having no magic. I have no doubt with growth liebe would become the strongest devil.
Technically only thing that can beat anti magic is physical things since it can’t bypass non magic. In the world of black clover where magic is dominant, technically everyone would have to rely on physical attributes to beat it.
The combination of anti magic, lichts insane swords, astas will and (Likely) Devil Genetics, Ki, And Arcs on Arcs of sword experience is what makes it seem "OP". But thats fine imo because its not JUST the effect of anti magic, its everything that it took to get there thats winning fights. Thats by definition efficient writing.
It wasnt that anti magic is op, its the fact it was the answer to a good outcome in basically every situation. It becomes op if the character is op in their own right, in which asta basically never giving up, traning to his fullest everyday and him wanting to be the wizard king or the strongest. From what i assume, for every spell asta cuts through he needs an equal ammount of anti magic as magic that the spell has. Asta made it op.
Exactly
so basically anti magic isn't overpowered, asta is just a chad.
Asta not being called an underdog, and you making a video on why this is false is the same as Clyde making that video on why PlagueofGripes is wrong about Naruto not being an underdog.
Because it's the same concept, they think just because the MC was given immense latent potential, it means they were never the underdog of the story, even though society has been treating these two harshly for being different than the rest.
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This is so true as Asta beat liebe with pure strength and toughness. Anti magic is just complimentary to asta seeing as he has no mana power. Liebe himself isn’t strong but with Asta, they compensate for each others weaknesses
The reason people call anti-Magic op is because it ruins the tension in the series.
I'm still watching the video but wanted to get something out before I finish, I think Asta should still be considered overpowered in relative terms because Antimagic is still an arcane stage type magic, arcane stage magic just has this tendency of , by changing the rules of standard magic combat, they can often punch significantly above their weight class, probably the best examples would be Vanessa and Grey, both of which severely breach the gap in power in the fights they participate in because of the utility their magic provides. Anti magic is on the lower end of this utility for arcane stage magic, but I think its what allows Asta to punch above his own power level in certain ocassions
When you make that video about asta being an underdog you should use other main characters to compare him to like ichigo, Deku and naruto respectfully. As well as how their powers factor into that. Or detract from that.
Might I also recommend having other CZcamsrs for the video in case they know more knowledge that you may lack? Just a suggestion.
Also damn this video is good!
18:52 and we still don’t know the absolute power of time magic which still makes the guy all the more scary and keeps you wondering how exactly is asta really going to beat this guy? Yikes!
great idea! Thank you!
@@Br0ku 👍🏽
7:20 that is difficult, most people can't even train for 12 hours every single day, but he trains 10 years every day...
Like I said in the poll, it's only good cause not many people have fought that magic type, but it's also asta's hard work and battle iq with his team fights and pure will power in solo fights that make it as strong as it is.
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I'm glad you make this point because people try to make the same argument for characters like Luffy because of what his Devil Fruit was revealed to be. Just assuming the character was special from the start. Not realizing that their exact mindset is EXACTLY the thing theses types of shows are refuting. Everybody's got special potential. Whoever actually achieves it is up to the person.
luffy, asta or naruto all were gifted with a seemingly strong power but it's not the power carrying the user but the user carrying the power thats why there power seems overpowerd whil the user of the power train to master and make that power seems strong if you to give "ruber"fruit to anyone else than luffy he would be unable to weaponise or use it bettter than luffy same for naruto asta and other shonen protagoniste it is only trough sheer training and hard work that there power slwowly become extremly strong.(sorry for all the typo or just the bad english😅)
@@curtis1636Except in Astas case AM isn't as powerful as People make it out to be For example Naruto was An Uzumaki and was a 9 tails jinchuriki(basically endless reserves) and was a Reincarnation of God, Luffy in the beginning till Gear 4 was something people will call it completely fights with his creativity though until it turns out to be the most OP Devil Fruit. Sure Asta was Gifted but it isn't exactly as strong as any of these 2
true, I genuinely do not know how anyone else in the one piece verse could have seriously awakened his devil fruit
it would have just stayed a basic rubber fruit, you could even say the same about Katakuri
@@user-pm9ev3up5t Except Luffy's devil fruit isn't even OP. It's not famous because it's powerful. It's famous because it's "ridiculous". Thats it.
@@curtis1636 Agreed for the most part, but Luffy's Devil Fruit isn't strong. Luffy MADE it strong. Very big difference.
In a world where magic is everything Asta is the living embodiment of it NOT being the case. He will break the classissim of his country.
I like that Asta could only use his Anti-Magic sword ruimentary. He needed to learn to handle Anti-Magic in his own way.
Asta needing help in battles was a great way to form genuine bonds with his friends just what he wanted when you consider he's an orphan.
He was the trump card in battles and the gang cleared the way for him. So he was during a specific time not able to win with Anti-Magic alone. Yet he received the demon-dweller and demon-destroyer to save people dear to him.
Now he has refined the Anti-Magic attribute to a very leathal degree. And Asta is still very young there's much room to grow. Like use the swords in the same way Licht has.
He inherited fighting styles from underwater temple,clover ,diamond, heart kingdom, elve tribes and land of the sun.
I think we can all agree that Asta at the end of the series will be the strongest even outside the clover kingdom. Mostly through his fighting spirit and persistence.
So true. Brought up some points I didn't have time to address in the video, didn't want to make it too long.
@@Br0ku well, judging from the length you wanted to make clear that people should stop making a complain about Anti-Magic being overpowered. Like you were really tired of arguing about it which I understand.
I've been saying this for years!!!
Same! Glad we agree 💪🏻
The editing in this video is awesome, the video looks great.
credit to Toxic!
A thought just came to me. Asta isn't even close to maxing out Anti Magics potential. He could pull a Yuno. Imagine this you attack Asta but get blocked by an Anti Magic shield than he charged at you with his sword. You run and Asta manipulates his Anti magic into projectiles to hit you since he can just manipulate his swords now.oh the ideas
Anti-magic is op. Everyone is born with some kind of magically affinity. If someone is born with anti-magic, then there would be no setbacks since it would just be used as any other magic and just nullify everything.
Anti-magic is op, but black clover implemented it in a way that has setbacks.
Please make a video on 10 fastest characters in blackclover and I agree with your opinion anti magic is not op However asta make it op by constantly improving his technique still his physical limits as well as time limit always keep its balance with series
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Anti magic itself is the OP part here as it has the advantage in combat over literally every other type of magic we have seen.
Theres literally NO fight in the series where asta would have been better off not having anti magic over (non OP) magic ... literally if asta had MP instead of AM he'd have lost the first ever fight in the series .....as the guy no diffed yuno a genius Mage who is equivalent/ stronger than asta at all points in the series with his MP nullification chains
YES getting anti magic doesnt automatically make you god of the verse and it has its own unique struggles ... but that rule seems to apply to all non devils (the devils are unargueably OP)... julius had TIME magic and it still took him decades to get to the top of the clover kingdom.
Look i like asta and im not trying to say he didnt work hard ... but if you give him any other (by your definition non OP) power and think he'd be as strong your reaching
*toned down the arguementativeness of the comment at the end of the day were all clover fans here even if we diagree
Yep he can be as strong
@@Chougui412 elucidate my brother... what reason other than plot armour could asta have to beat revichi, langris, zagred or lucifero with say fire magic ????
@@lewisfaley7823 the same way as magna, luck ect...by working hard?
You acting like there is none strong fire users around in BC
And with true magic,Ki/zetten and possibly the fire spirit there is no reason why he wouldn't be as strong if not even stronger
It is op after last chapter, it’s like tabata replied to your vid,
Asta gave the black bulls antimagic and it’s crazy how the magic element they use hasn’t changed, he absorbed their magic with the demon dweller and gave them antimagic
Exemple: luck had lightning magic -> anti magic lightning (from blue to black thunder)
Nope! It’s still not overpowered. Unless if the Black Bulls are now just as strong as Asta, or close, then no.
@@Br0kuGiving people huge power ups is op what? Even if they’re not on astas level being able to fight relative to asta and fight against opponents they would stand no chance in hell against is op.
@@constantdreams7918 my guy… you are the one saying they are relative to Asta. There is NOTHING that suggests they are relative to him yet. Asta just made the black bulls look like fodder while he was in BASE. He just used his BASE AM power to give them the energy. Literally zero evidence to suggest they could hold a candle to Asta.
@@Br0ku “The enemies over there are still wayyyy more powerful than us” What do you think that means? The power boost asta gave them is tremendous, and relative means to be able to fight close to asta and not get bodied all of them got tremendous boost, and thats not op to you? How would they help asta if the boost he gave them wasn’t making them at least relative make it make sense.
@@constantdreams7918 ….. did you not see Asta in base one shot Damnatio? The black bull could solo a Paladin and that puts them on the level of… checks notes… base Asta.
I believe that he has mastered the ability of the demon dweller sword just a bit more in the most recent chapter, that being chapter 367, I think
If asta had mana his sword would nullify it
If asta didn't have a six pack on each arm he wouldn't be able to lift his first sword
LIEBE, THE DEMON THAT CONTROLS THE SWORDS can't lift his own sword he uses telekinesis
1:14 liebe in the devil realm has anti magic and every other devil is “get the fuck outta here with that shit, that anti magic shit is a fucking party trick.”
Lucifero thinks anti-magic stinks lol
Anti Magics peak is only possible because of who Asta is and what he's done. If I say Anti magic is op it in reality doesn't just make him strongest in the verse. It's just an insanely strong energy/type in BC. Only problem is that you must have literally 0 magic and must be jacked to use it. That's why Asta is the perfect host. He is the one character who can fully bring out Anti Magics power
When they don’t realize anti magic is the strongest power in existence but you have to learn it’s potential he could make an anti magic zone making all magic that could possibly effect him just fade away and not work in certain areas and even control it so it only works on certain people so he can super nerf anyone as well as make it even easier on his team
I hate when people say that he has had many problems with magic it's not like he was always stoping every attack at all times it was only till now that he can stop magic just by being near him
What hindered Asta and anti-magic the most was the lack of long-range and large-area type of attack
i hope he infects it with anti magic crossbow
its op because it can nullify magic when the shows main power system is magic
Pretty damn much and tabata had to work around that to make asta grow in being able to harness more more down the line. not that hard to process honestly. The strongest characters in the verse fear asta for a reason cause he’s broken 😂
Like they say it is never the power that is terrifying it is the one who uses that Power.
If there’s something overpowered that Asta has it has got to be his throat.
Little shit just Can’t Stop Screaming
Asta has shown us time and again that through training and hard work you can achieve the goals you set out. As he’s said “My Magic is Never giving up” 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽🔥
Reminds me of Naruto's my ninja way is never giving up.
@@shravankumar-yh9tm no his is “I’ll never go back on my word no matter what”
@@rennenb oh yes
When the only person that can "rival" asta is someone is 2× blessed by mana loved by a spirit poccesses 2 magic types and is a tactical and intelligent genius, then yeah anti magic is overpowered. That is a level of power no normal mage could accomplish even if they trained harder than asta. Every person to beat asta did so by having overpowered magic, insane physical abilities and skill, or just enough mana or a strong enough attack to overwhelm the current application of antimagic. Any mage of the same caliber as asta has to work extra hard to bypass anti magic.
In a fight between 2 people of equal stats antimagic trivialize the entire arsenal of the other more often than not. For every new option of antimagic application asta gets he gets rid of a 100 options is enemy has. All of asta abilities boils down two how can he get antimagic to the desired target or location.
This is wrong considering anti-magic can only negate things it scales too. FYI in thr latest chapter Lucius tanked an anti-magic fireball explosion from Magns with no damage. Magna couldn"t even damage the Lucius's clone with anti-magic until Lucius mana was split between him and Luck, then ganged up on him to take him out. Always powee negation already existed before anti-magic in verse. Anti-magic is just one firm of magic negation. Not mention anti-magic is canoncally considered a low tier power in verse.
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Also, to your second comment, not quite because anti-magic still needs to exert the same amount of force to negate the magic. Anti-magic still expends energy to negate magic since it canoncally does not negate kinetic energy (stated in chapter 4)
Partial Devil union Asta couldn't even cut through Lucius's body in their first battle, yet it could cut his magic, while current Asta in base form can cut through much easier, almost like butter.
So no its not overpowered considering anti-magic always gets negged by magic stronger than it.
Do you have any theories on Julius? We know that similar to the elf inside of Yuno's body and Patry, Julius is not the primary soul of Lucius' body. I wonder how that came to be. Was he affected by a reincarnation spell, similar to the elves? Or was there some other circumstance behind it?
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Anti-Magic was indeed OP, the issue was how it was used. It's like how Nero was viewed as garbage for "opening and closing" aka sealing/unsealing magic. Yet when used correctly, was OP.
All anti magic does and all it has ever done is even the playing field for asta and once everything is equalized that's when his true strength shows which is the strength that he worked hard to gain. if you think about what would happen if someone else got the 5 leaf grimoire then anti magic suddenly becomes a useless ability because only asta can wield the sword due to his hard work and training. anti magic in and of itself isn't overpowered, its the man that uses it that makes it such a strong ability.
You know, Anti-magic is probably the most interesting "nuh-uh" ability I've seen in anything. It manages to be powerfull without resorting to just depowering the villains, and have a fleshed out moveset without straying from the theme.
Love people putting effort into a magic system with cool abilities for the writer to make the main character schtick to completely nullify the cool stuff they create.
Imagine having no physical strength with anti magic swinging a sword around with no speed getting hit by long range magic attacks with nothing to do
Without skill, Asta's swords even though they're imbued with anti-magic would be nothing more than sharp heavy sticks
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Edit: Great video, I just believe that earlier into the series he didn’t have as much mastery or uses to Anti-Magic. Currently though he definitely had to make a lot of sacrifices and work to even reach that. W vid‼️🔥
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15:41 this gives me so much satisfaction because I had a argument I think last week about if Lucifero was at 100% during this fight he would've shit all over true devil union Asta but the people devolved to argueing with me useing feats he Asta did ATER this fight to prove Asta would beat a 100% Lucifero and it was infuriating cause I believe like 3 people were trying to prove me wrong about a fight useing feats that didn't happen untill that fight was over lol
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No lie I mainly like the ki power and how its different from magic
Dude got a whole ass devil and can nullify magic in a world where magic is everything. Stop acting like that shit ain’t strong asf. The man had to work hard but so do most MC’s even if they have an OP power. Naruto got the strongest tailed beast n had to go through hell to control it. Deku got a quirk from the top hero and has hella sub abilities too but had to work hella hard. Shit even Luffy has a mythical zoan god fruit n he had to fucking die to get the power up lmao. I get it’s for the video but this shit is just not true.
liebe is one of the weakest devils tho it's only useful because of asta
unlike stuff like kurama that are op from the start
really in a world without magic most of his fights would be sword fight (just with an insanely strong guy)
THANK YOU!!! Anti-Magic isn't overpowered at all, it's just used to level the playing field. Which means Was Asta is the most underdog character ever, more so than Naruto and Deku. I love how much Asta lives up to his ideals of anyone being able to become great even without magic if they work hard enough. Asta is still strong in his own right and he's proved that he earned his anti magic. Even then he still had to struggle. Asta's real magic is never giving up.
Only about 5 minutes in: Asta's ability is only "Overpowered" in the sense that it's a hard-counter to the magic system as a whole. However, since the time it was introduced, it's been stated, confirmed, and repeated that Asta's only that good with Anti-Magic because of his physical ability; something that he had to train for and would otherwise be useless in this world. Asta's ability is the ultimate equalizer meaning that neither person could use Magic; and that means that it comes down to Physical Ability (something that several villains can overpower him at unless he gets support from his friends).
"Its not OP because there is a tradeoff that doesnt actually matter because plot"
Terrible argument.
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If anti majic was as op is some people say Asta would have become wizard king in chapter 20 ( probably less )
"If anti-magic is so overpowered, why was he still struggling?"
Because the writer(s) wanted him to.
Lol, kidding aside (although the above is accurate)... a better answer would be that anti-magic is so overpowered that they limit Asta himself. He doesn't know how to use it well. The reason it is overpowered is because he is able to rival someone, who is more powerful than most BECAUSE they have a greater understanding of their particular magic than most, despite being nowhere near as adept with anti-magic than that person is with their magic. I don't think this ruins the show and feel the writer(s) do a decent job still making him struggle despite him having an OP ability. But yes, the ability to nullify magic regardless of its type and strength is absolutely OP... ESPECIALLY in a world that is literally built upon magic. It would be like walking into a kingdom made of/by slugs (gross) with a full salt shaker. Great video though. Thank you for sharing.
Regardless of strength is a lie considering in the heart kingdom the water spirit Capture him with With chains made of water magic Also when he was fighting the ancient demon He didn't Have enough power to destroy it spells it didn't immediately disappear
Keep in mind is a power source that is very unknown in the black clover verse it a power source that asta can't easily find a teacher how the source works and how to manipulate it too, normal mages has a higher advantage chances to find teacher to teach them how mana works and their mana sense is compartable form them in their surrounding area to be able to utilize mana quicker, but unlike asta his anti-mana is not compatibable with mana in his surrounding area and he lack the mana sense so he is forced to use a harder and a much difficult type of senseory skill he need to unluck by himself thankfully he has some level of talent to learn Ki quickly and quite physically gifted, granted he did have some teachers to teach how to utilize the full power of the devil anti-magic and ki, but in the end of the day it all depend in asta, if asta failed the ritual he is dead and secondarly if asta didn't trained his body and wasn't bit talented he wouldnt be able to achieved Ki and and how zetten to work, too.
Lastly I think asta wouldnt extactly learn how mana zone work since the only way to use mana zone id you the user is sureound by natural man, but asts isn't compatible in the surrounding area, at most asta can just create a barrier to look similar to anti-mana.
that's true good point.
@@Br0ku which part of the points that caught your interest
It wasn’t the power that made him strong it was his hard work
"Most OP"
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Light and dark magic are op. But anti magic is basically a dlc to someone like asta or his mother who would have been strong
I wished light magic would still be a thing. Imagine William with light magic side by side with Yami's dark magic. How amazing this would have been when you remember Patry used Lumiere's attribute to threaten the clover kingdom.
IDK man, the amount of times where anti-magic was the only answer to the solution... I know anti magic works because of who asta is but it still carried him hard
It didn’t
Exactly. This doesn’t mean Asta didn’t work hard but anti magic literally negates magic in a world where magic is everything. At its full potential it’s clearly the strongest power in the verse.
So you're saying Asta is weaker than Yuno even with Zetten
I said it’s possible
You just need more mana than the anti-magic can catch up to cancels it.
tbh I too never has seen anti magic as overpowered
like yeah sure you can delete my class 5 mana railgun
parry my 4km/s 250mm APHE
also, if you can create a metal chopstick with fins out of pure mana and make a railgun with mana
you can kill any anti magic guys
the most powerful bit of anti magic zetten IS the zetten and NOT the anti magic
Preach!
I wouldn't say anti magic is op, but that fact that it was coupled with sword magic that is op. Asta had to make it work, sure, but give the same Grimoire to yami or licht and they would probably be as strong as asta in no time (land of the rising sun folks too)
If I'm not mistaken, amp makes asta this strong because it's almost the same as the magic attribute itself. I mean it can:
+ increase his stats in his devil form( like mereoleona)
+ give him ability to copy a mage's skill ( yami dimension slash, am wave)
+ anti mana zone ( latest chapter against damnatio)
At the start, I thought amp was just a ability to cancel magic. Both asta and liebe don't have mana so liebe shouldn't be able to buff asta like magic. Since asta's first devil form in the witches' forest, amp most likely became the magic itself. But I guess it's fair enough because asta wouldn't have come this far imagine without that.
Another thing, anti magic is not an atribute, is an energy wich means that still need a way to manifest… asta is only useful becouse the grimoire was about swords, only having the antimagic is usseless becouse you would be like Mars, wich means he have to absorbe antoher attack and nobody else have antimagic… and even though they gave him the useless way to manifest antimagic wich is: 3 FREAKING SWORDS THAT WEIGH TOO MUCH FOR A NON TRAINES HUMAN TO WIELD, and all of that just to wield it you still need to know how to use a sword and that shit is not easy, trust me i tried it
Asta been playing dark souls in magic the gathering
Asta being incompetent and weak doesn't make the power less overpowered. Look at okuyasu is jojos. Hes dumb and incompetent but his stand za hando absolutely is one of the most broken and overpowered abilities a character could have. His inability to properly use it, does not weaken the power itself.
Anti magic sounds OP in a vaccum but in Black Clover it really isn't.
Anti magic is great hax but there's many many hax in Black Clover which are just better.
Slicing magic can cut anything, magic or non magic.
Invisible magic lets any attack pass through you,
Dream magic is the most over powered, unless you have dream magic only other way to defeat dream magic is to get away from it.
And Time magic is so haxy that character need hax in order to fight it.
And there's many more.
Put anti magic in other series and its the most OP in thar verse. But in Black Clover it's kinda regular
@@GMYSTERYICTNF... Its literally the opposite. Anti-magic would not be op UNLESS its in black clover where magic is the only commonly used fighting system. If ki would be utilized more then sure itd have some balance to it. But every enemy asta faces has a chance of over 99% to use magic and thus just lose due to anti-magic being broken in that "vacuum"
It has the potential to be op but that still depends on the individuals who wielding the power
Like Ben who is using the Omnitrix in way nobody else would.
@@Grayson-Winchester well, yeah
@@Grayson-WinchesterNot really… the Omni trix is op either way you have access too infinite aliens even if you don’t use it the way Ben does you’re still gonna be strong as hell.
I dreamt about Lucifero having Reality Magic.
And he said ,,Reality Magic Anti Magic Laws Erased" which would have been awesome.
that would have been better.
It's only overpowered because it's good against everything else except it's self
I don’t like asta saying he wasn’t blessed with any magic. It’s like bro you have anti magic which negates other magics, is a top tier ability, and was perfectly designed for you that’s pretty blessed to me. Asta has the physical strength and the mindset that was paired with a grimoire that requires exactly that. Asta you were blessed that’s like getting the perfect build and still not taking it as a blessing.
If Asta wasn't physically the fastest and strongest dude in the universe, he would have straight up just died in Saussy village on his first mission and nobody would have ever heard of anti magic ever again.
Now that i think about it, i see this as a complete W. Keep up the good work, editing has gotten even better 👑
"In general, anti-magic abilities can provide a significant advantage, as they may allow a character to negate or resist the effects of magical attacks, spells, and abilities that would otherwise be devastating. This can make the character wielding anti-magic seem very powerful in comparison to predominantly magical opponents. Anti-magic is a fresh power, and to me, it has a lot of potential and room to grow strong with time."
Asta is legit just has insane potential and people say that hes overopowered because of that
He is the definition of hard work
He isnt, within 1 year he became stronger than captain level. Within 2-3 years he became way stronger than the wizard king julius. Yeah it was hard physical training but the 1000 pushups he mentioned arent the same as doing it irl since these chracters are superhuman easily without magic
Hard Disagree. Anti-Magic in a world that subsists on and is fundamentally centered around magic is, by definition, Overpowered.
First, the definition of "if it has a great cost it cannot be overpowered" is incorrect. It doesnt matter whether something is "I can only use it once" condition, it is the overall result and the effect that ultimately matters. It is logic of its application in conjunction with verse and canonical statements made that make something overpowered.
If 2 people are in combat and 1 is stronger than the other and the weaker one pulls out a technique that coincidentally trivializes the established power discrepancy for practically no other reason than to virtually 1 tap or "neg" the opposing individual, then regardless of drawback (be it death, permanent injury, etc) it would be Overpowered. Effort put into obtaining it isnt a balance to it not being overpowered. To be overpowered is to look at the ability itself, removed from conditions that dont stem from the ability itself. Conditions derived by the character and placed on by the author are separate from the conditions of the ability which is proven if characters who have existed with the same ability didn't have those same restrictions and conditions.
What you should've established first was if *Astas VERSION and APPLICATION* of Anti-Magic was Overpowered *as it pertains to his specific character* . Because the title is "Anti-Magic was never overpowered". Meaning this statement encompasses Anti-Magic in *general* the *Concept* of Anti-Magic. So the more appropriate "Asta's Anti-Magic isnt Overpowered" would make more sense.
In this case it is, without question, 100% factual that Anti-Magic in a world that is established to be governed by magic would be Overpowered.
Notice how virtually every interaction the series gives to try to explain how it "isnt" overpowered is never challenging the *concept* of Anti-Magic itself. Rather it was always an alternate route of circumventing the Anti-Magic. And you even showed proof of this. The fact that it is the physical force of the magic (in the form of projectiles) that remains is what causes damage is this circumvention. Reading again through 270-273 of the Nacht fight, at no time was it stated that his shadows werent being affected by the sword. Nacht *literally* states "as long as you dont defeat my body the shadows wont disappear" This isnt a statement of the shadows permanence but the fact that he will create *infinite amounts* of shadows. To prove this, Asta who was completely binded by the shadows literally tore himself loose through the use of his transformation and anti-magic application. If it was your statement that was correct, he wouldn't have been able to remove those bindings because to quote you "it would be that strong and have resistance to power and nullification". But that isnt the case. *Literally 8 panels later in the SAME CHAPTER he changes to the Katana and you can literally see him cutting off the right leg off of one of the shadows* . Meaning the Shadows *ARE* being affected by his swords.
They cannot challenge the concept of Anti-Magic because it is already established and reiterated to be the antithesis of all magic. So they develop reasoning and logic to still damage and fight against anti-magic to try to reduce its "overpowered" visual to the audience through means of adding *CHARACTER conditions* . Example: Anti-Magic does *not* have this innate property of being attracted to magic. So what did they do in order to add some semblance of "balance" to Black Asta? Make it so that Black Asta is attracted to magic. For what reasoning? Because it would quote "allow him to not have to consciously react to attacks". Which again is a CHARACTER Conditin and not the condition of Anti-Magic the *ability* . This is, again, a circumvention Anti-Magic to *try* to make it balanced.
Anti-Magic negates Magically induced regeneration. Why would it be expected to have worked against a *BIOLOGICAL, PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTE* of a Hydra-like Dragon? You use Vetto's *magic based regeneration* and tried to compare it to a *natural and physical healing factor* and using that as a "see its a contradiction" point when it isnt.
That would be like saying "Asta stopped the regeneration of this magical super villain but he cant stop a Troll from regenerating" One is magical, the other isnt.
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The video doesn't actually convince or prove that Anti-Magic as an ability isnt overpowered. It is.
Rather this video shows how the author is trying to reign in an obviously overpowered ability through means of writing.
If a power meant to fight against magic isn't doing well enough to keep you alive against magic then it ISN'T OP. Op would mean that he could just touch magic and it would dissipate.
Great work man on the recent videos
I was Rey say ASTA makes anti magic overpowered if it was liebe it wouldn’t b as strong
Anti magic is like Mirage's ultimate in Apex...pretty basic, not too flashy, but if used right is indeed OP
Wow when the ad roll brags about a short playtime.
8-10 hours for 30 bucks? And it’s replayable? There’s nothing wrong with shorter games. Nice for people who are super busy.
Yes. Asta himself is OP to a severe degree.
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