Why Sonic Superstars DOESN'T Work
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- Sonic Superstars is surprisingly controversial. Some people love it, and some people don't. But who's right? Let's find out.
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0:00 Music
2:33 Visuals
4:34 Gameplay [Spoilers]
8:11 Story [Spoilers]
9:16 Battle Mode [Spoilers]
MUSIC:
Sonic Superstars OST - Title Screen [ • Sonic Superstars OST -... ]
Sonic Superstars OST - Bridge Island Zone Prologue [ • Sonic Superstars OST -... ]
Sonic Superstars OST - Early Game Boss [ • Sonic Superstars OST -... ]
Sylvania Castle Zone (Act 1) - Sonic the Hedgehog 4 [ • Sylvania Castle Zone (... ]
Sonic Superstars OST - Press Factory Zone Act 1 [ • Sonic Superstars OST -... ]
Sonic Superstars OST - World Map [ • Sonic Superstars OST -... ]
Sonic Superstars OST - Bridge Island Zone Act 1 [ • Sonic Superstars OST -... ]
Sonic Superstars OST - Early Bridge Island Zone [ • Video ]
Yamaha PSR-E303 Demo Song - Castaway [ • Yamaha YPT-300 | Castaway ]
Sonic Superstars OST - Golden Capital Zone Act 1 [ • Sonic Superstars OST -... ]
Sonic Superstars OST - Lagoon City Zone Act Amy [ • Sonic Superstars OST -... ]
Pause Screen | Banjo-Kazooie [ • Pause Screen | Banjo-K... ]
Sonic Superstars - Emerald Power (Vision) [ • Sonic Superstars - Eme... ]
Sonic Superstars OST - Special Stage [ • Sonic Superstars OST -... ]
Sonic Superstars OST - Speed Jungle Zone Act 1 [ • Sonic Superstars OST -... ]
Sonic Superstars OST - Main Menu [ • Sonic Superstars OST -... ]
Sonic Superstars OST - Frozen Base Zone Act 1 [ • Sonic Superstars OST -... ]
Footage from FCPlaythroughs and Sonic Overtime unless stated otherwise - Hry
Mania is better than Superstars
Okay? I agree with you, but like, no chance I was ever expecting for Naoto Oshima to come back with a sonic game that was better than mania. Like what is the point of commenting this?!
@@spideycatx1Maybe because the game sucks and Mania is better.
@@spideycatx1because mania came out before superstars, so you'd expect it'd be an improvement, not a step back.
Saying that is like saying "The sun rises".
I thought i would never say this mania is a c tier game bite me
Bro you didn’t have to do Fantasy Zone so dirty like that daaamn
This game is basically like a modern day CD- lot of really neat ideas (I seriously can't see how people don't find the idea of the last zone cool, that's such a new and interesting gimmick that's never been done in Classic Sonic) but the execution is a little mixed. It's just not for everyone; but that's alright with me. Hence the CD comparison. You can go up to bat for CD all you want, I like that game, but it sadly isn't for everyone. That's kinda the feeling I got from Superstars as well. And I think that's partly why people are a little upset with it.
Tl;dr: People went into this game wanting a game like Sonic 2 or 3, like Mania was, but got a game that's more akin to CD.
Sonic CD had good music though and its bosses didn't take eons to beat
@mrboost4186 That I'll agree with yeah. But the music in Superstars isn't bad, it's just kinda all over the place. The worst it gets is decent, with most tracks being good or even great
The game is just too trial and error based towards the ladder half, swear it feels like the game just punishes u for even attempting to go fast at some point
@javon2320 I get what you mean yeah. But I think as I keep playing the game and learning the stages it'll get easier
I'll probably grab it on sale because I don't want to spend too much money right now, but I've heard it's pretty good! It just isn't Mania, which it feels like people were expecting it to be.
I will say a lot of people are saying "these zones aren't new, they're just different versions of existing stages!" as if the Sonic series isn't so big that rehashes of themes aren't going to happen anyway.
Also I just want them to STOP trying to imitate the Genesis sounds, man 😭 These are good songs ruined by these fake twangs
Anyway, great video!
the sonic community has high expectations, so of course they expect it to be on manias level
@@Pan_FrytekIt is on Maria's level, imo. The Sonic community just expected Superstars to literally be Sonic Mania and it isn't.
@@Pan_Frytek can't forget about the insane amount of drama including chris chan, sexism discourage on twitter and amy rose fangirl arguments!
@@andsydev I don’t think that has to do with this game bro
@@andsydev ye what is that
I agree on the music part being a very mixed bag. I mean no offense to Jun Senoue, he's one of my favorite Sonic composers in the Adventure era, but honestly, lay off the Genesis copycat soundfonts man, Sonic Mania has already pretty much redefined the style of music the current Classic Sonic games has and I wish to keep it that way. Using the Genesis soundfonts now would just make the entire sound incohesive and indecisive - it's like dining in a restaurant where two completely different cooks take turns cooking the other's dish their own way.
0:30 - Sonic 4 really had that consistent music style. A shitty one at that.
What's the problem with liking some songs and NOT liking the other ones...?
A lot of people including myself were hoping that this would be Sonic Mania 2 but it was far from it. The physics were good but music and level design hurt it a lot as well as its steep price. The game was a bit disappointing but still fun to play.
@TopGFilesit’s not mid just for having double the price. it isn’t reasonable for $60, sure. but don’t shit on it like it’s a damn toilet. you have to learn that not everything can be as good as mania, but you can’t just treat it like trash. you probably didn’t even play the game, so come back once you actually experienced the game and start criticizing as much as you want.
@TopGFiles at least you don’t shit on other peoples opinions, I respect you for that. though if you thought that superstars was gonna be not more than a story and a battle mode, it’s kinda your fault
@TopGFiles 😔
@TopGFiles tru tho, but I do have to finish sonic mania and origins plus
-me, for the 500th time
@@Pan_FrytekThere's no excuse as to why this couldn't be an improvement on Mania. Sega is a multibillion dollar company yet hires the devs of Balan Wonderworld to develop a game for their flagship IP lol
Your prototype does appear in cyber station zone in the boss fight which is really cool.
I forgot to mention this, yeah it was pretty dang awesome ngl
it does take a bit of time to beat it though. especially since it’s a phase 2 boss
Ngl i didnt like how you structured this video
i haven't gotten ahold of the game yet, but i was curious to know your thoughts in a non-spoilery way, and despite the chapter marks mentioning that there's spoilers, i dont think its fair for a first time viewer to not get the chance to hear your non-spoilery thoughts
i either have to skip around the video to get to a section where you dont discuss something spoilery or land on a part of the video horribly and get slapped in the face with a spoiler which is not what i wanted
i think you shouldve had a spoilery and non-spoilery video or maybe just have the first half be non-spoilery and then the 2nd half go more in depth
doing it half-and-half just makes what you actually show unpredictable and hard to watch as someone who doesn't want to get spoiled but has already been so multiple times
Imagine complaining about a game that is so good like sonic superstars. Just wow. People find every excuse under the sun to say something negative about sonic
Sonic fans will never be happy. Everything short of perfection is considered automatically bad.
Sonic Superstars is NOT worth enough for Sega to charge 60$ dollars for the game. I stand by my point.
From what I’ve seen, Sonic Superstars is the most fun on Co-Op Multiplayer, as it’s just chaotic fun to laugh with your buddies
Hey I don't know if you're uploading anymore, just wanted to say I always really enjoyed your videos!
05:21 It's not a robot whale. It's a robot mosasaurus
7:28-7:57 I thought that the specials stages were fine except for the 5th one where I have no idea what you're supposed to do to complete it 11:57p.m. 10/20/2023
we're switching this back 👏
I think Mania beats Superstars in terms of polishness, level design, boss fights and ost but Superstars visuals and graphics look really good.
Dang I really got baited thinking you'd hate it from the title
over all i think this game was good but you can all have your own opinion. but yeah some parts dont look to be vary good.
0:11-2:34 Yeah I can't really remember probably over 90% of the OST lol 8:22p.m. 10/20/2023
The story seems to be incomplete. The mural shown in the "Trio of Trouble" short & the Knuckles level displays 7 armored warriors that look like Trip, fighting the Black Dragon, each using a Chaos Emerald's special power & sealed it way into a black Jewel. Eggman seemingly wants the jewel & the Black Dragon's for himself so he can do whatever. The game doesn’t explain any of this, nor does it explain other plot points like, "Who were the 7 armored warriors?" "Who is the Black Dragon?" "Why were they fighting?" "What was the Black Dragon's goal?" "Who is Trip?" "How is she connected to these past events?" "What is her connection to the 7 armored warriors?" What is their connection to the Chaos Emeralds?" "How did they harness the Emerald's powers & use them to defeat the Black Dragon & seal him away?"
The thumbnail is bit misleading.
Bro I was looking for this channel!
The Jun Controversy is because of SEGA forcing him to use the Sonic 4 soundfont.
Source? 3, 2, 1, no source.
Nah tbh I think it’s a pretty solid game. The music is good in my opinion as well as the physics. The level design is great and I liked a lot of the gimmicks they added. I don’t really understand the hate. This game and sonic frontiers are the best sonic tittles in over a decade.
FAX
@@DCKnight0077-jw4bw Except there is no problem
@@DCKnight0077-jw4bw Hypocrite
@@DCKnight0077-jw4bw there's no fucking likes on gengar's comment??????
Superstars is on the same level as sonic 4 ep 2 tbh. If not a little worse
I really like the game, but there's just something I can't explain that drags it down for me. I guess it's just a number of things. Hopefully it will get a dlc with new acts for the one act zone starring Fang.
What do you mean? Sonic superstars is trash bro it’s not it’s literally so good that sega release the game and then you’re talking about sonic superstars is bad. Why are you tell me they don’t have glitches? They have good levels
Mania>3&K>Superstars>2>CD>1>4
Man if this game I've only seen people shit on overrated it must be really bad
the only bad things are the bosses and the ost, definitely recommend to play it.
@@Tozito911 if you’re a knuckles main i’d beg to differ, he got slaughtered
his glide SUCKS and can’t accelerate, superglide(starting a glide just above a moniter or badnik to bounce off it for height), and landing from a glide both takes like a second for the animation to play and can’t be spindashed out of
also trip outclasses him and amy in every single way lmao
@@emperortoho i didin’t play the main campaign with knuckles and i won’t, im main sonic.
that sucks tho.
For what i've seen this game is more underrated than overrated, the overrated is Mario Wonder.
@@anakarolyna1999 i mean both are pretty good they are NOT overrated its just the fact that superstars is kinde overhated
I seriously don't understand the hate this game is getting.
Its almost like its become cool to nitpick the game.
Physics are great, Music is still fantastic even if it has some ups and downs, I actually love the level design.
Some of the boss battles are a bit tedious but some are really fun also.
The game has a shit ton of stages, and the return of fang is awesome, I also think Trip is a cool character...
All levels are also original ideas, and multiplayer is fun!
it's a sonic game.
Complete agree. Hate the bosses and some of the music is bad, though I still think the majority of tracks are good. But otherwise I think it’s another really good classic Sonic game.
Agreed!
Disagree
Has anyone had input lag in the ps5 version?
FINALLY!!! A fair sonic superstars review that isn't complete BS. Seriously ppl will wither say the game is a masterpiece with no flaws, or that the game is doggy doo doo water worse than sonic 4 w no redeemable qualities.
6:29 That one SEGA game? I can't remember what it's called but I know it from Sonic & SEGA All Stars Racing luhmayo of course 11:53p.m. 10/20/2023
Ok look, im not trying to start an argument here but... ive come across so many people with these ChatGPT robot brains always saying "SoNiC MaNiA iS tHe BeSt GaMe AnD AnYtHiNg OtHeR tHaN It Is MiD" like damn sonic fans are so hard to please. At least we dont have to wait centuries to get a new game like DAMN 😒😒
My issue with this game is how clunky the controls feel. Sonic should feel quick and snappy. Why does Mario wonder feel so snappy and quick but Sonic feels like he has a hard time getting up to speed and then there’s this weird sliding around that characters do like their momentum doesn’t stop correctly. Sonic never feels like he’s going that fast at all
Bro have you ever played a classic sonic game lmao
0:46 are you serious
I don't find the problem with the music I enjoy it
Fr, like even frontiers has inconsistencies
@spideycat1074
Wdym?
@@LD-service I mean, we have gentle piano melodies, and then suddenly we have EDM and Dubstep. Like what’s consistent about that. I get that when sonic enters cyberspace the music changes. But then why do we complain that bridge island and pinball carnival have different styles of music when they’re two completely different areas. Like I get it if people where talking about inconsistency in terms of good or bad music, but that’s not what they mean.
Tbh sonic episodes 1 and 2 are better then superstars......... ya I said it
Finally! The says exactly what I'm thinking since Tuesday
fang's theme here is worse than his theme from triple trouble, a game gear game.
“just do a hate sonic video for views!” and this guy did.
this game sux
@@Sonikku_Za_Hejjihoggu_1991sonic adventure 2 fan?
@@Tozito911 nah, heroes fan
Or maybe the game just isn’t that good?
11:39p.m. 10/20/2023
1:17 when you add songs like this...
fixed: czcams.com/video/cIW4JvNnfkI/video.html
6:20 it’s not less content though? The single act zones are around as long as 2 regular acts put together, it’s just for pacing reasons
I haven’t played this game but I can completely understand about the sound effects being loud and ripped from sonic mania and the only thing that makes it so obvious is that HZ sample if the same as the one from mania is the only way that makes it so obvious. That the only one that I know when It comes to that.
You can adjust the sound effects in menu
@@dreamsdeep1076 I know I was justify about the sound effects rip from mania from an Modding perspective because I mod music in Mario kart 7 and sound effects as well and can tell if it just rip or ported over from another game from that franchise like MKW
Game is good. The hate on it is crazy because it's a bunch of nitpicky stuff
THANK YOU, I totally agree
The music is ass
YUP
@@DCKnight0077-jw4bw
Huh? I didnt like my own comment. What problem?
@@DCKnight0077-jw4bw Will you quit stalking me, you weirdo?
My main issue isn't the soundtrack or bosses with Sonic Superstars, it's the lack of content and the fact that sells on the price of $60, the game I'd give a B-, good enough but definitely could have been better
This game deserves all of the hate that it gets.
That's correct!
Nintendo should make Sonic games at this point, this game suck, its really hard to control the character then the game crushes...
Superstars has so many unnecessary obstacles like there are spikes being repeated on every stage it feels clunky and slow to play through and the boss fights last way too long
what is with that purple filter over you lmao
They should of made an tv instead of midstars
I enjoy the music ngl
60$ really isn't worth it, man, after all this it questions me if sonic will ever have that great solid game Yeah Ik frontiers but damn..
@TopGFiles yeah but I feel like this is gonna continue for any future sonic games that decide to come out also not to mention (news reports say Sega Leaked new titles for future sonic names could be games But Only time will tell I guess.)
@TopGFiles”less content than mania” is a flat out lie lmao
Also rendering the game in 3D graphics is where some of the increase in budget came from, that and it has more in it than mania and isn’t just old stuff for 50% of the game
As a longtime fan of this series, I’ve already come to terms with never getting a game that tops Generations. Because SEGA doesn’t expect better for Sonic and in turn, neither do the fans.
So long as the games are “better than ‘06, or Rise of Lyric, or Sonic 4: Ep 1, or Forces, or [insert other fan base punching bag here],” being charged $60 for borderline shovelware-core, THQNordic quality games people stop thinking about after a month is good enough
It looks like candy crush game or a rip off Kirby game plus this game's quality is really bad its not even good at all and it doesn't look finished the same problem with sonic frontiers the animation doesn't look finished, i mean even sonic forces animation looked more clean than these games were getting now plus sega really needs to end this classic sonic story this game better needs to be the last classic sonic game if they want to do a dlc they can do it but nothing els after that
Used Sonic headers just don't like Sonic do you nothing is ever any Sonic game it makes even if it's not that bad it's still bad
4:02 I don't get it
a bad sonic game with good music is decent but a excelent sonic game with bad music is instantly a bad game, im sorry, but those are **FACTS**
The bad music in this game made me realize how fun the previous games were thanks to the music
I like the game i don't now why some people say it as bad as sonic 4
Sonic Supermid
L take
@TopGFilesI enjoyed Sonic 06 more than Superstars so I can understand what you mean
@@thesupermayoreoWell, I heavily DESPISE Sonic '06, and it is my most hated game of all-time.
this mf 16
not a whale its lilopodon
I don't give a Frick as someone who pre ordered it
Sonic 4 Episode 3 goes hard
I enjoyed it
Dude sonic superstars is amazing!!, the game just literally came out and you said is bad? Bruhhhhh
Not just the stage Gimmicks, the Emerald powers are also Gimmicks. The only interesting one is the Silver Emerald and the Red one as it's basically Super Sonic's Air move from Sonic 3.
Physics are okay, but Drop Dash, knuckles' glide, Amy's Drop... Hammer?? all have speed caps, and knuckles doesn't gain any speed even with speed shoes power up and stops to a halt when you land after gliding.
The sense of speed is lost with these issues and the only time you're going "fast" is through automated sections. Hit a spring while rolling?? You can't turn around to increase the speed even while going down a slope.
I had to return the game. I'd buy Origins if it came with the original tracks for Sonic 3.
Then what is a good Sonic game? It's been one complaint of a game after another. And don't tell me its Mania. It's a cash grab game. Those kinda games i kinda despise.
First a good classic sonic game is 3&K
I don’t get you saying Mania is a cash grab in any sort of way. now was it made as nostalgia first? Oh yeah of course that’s what sega wanted. But it was made with love and passion for the franchise literally made by the people who have made fan games , it has some of the best understanding of sonic and Sonic’s level design than most games in the series
I think is better than Sonic mania in my opinion yes it does has it flaws but I agree with you
@TopGFiles Those are pure facts,while Sonic Superstars is fun,it does not have the same amount of passion Sonic Mania had.
It doesn’t even surpass sonic 4 ep 2.
8:10-8:37 Yeah the story makes absolutely no sense towards the end my first reaction was like "Where did this dragon come from am I missing something?" 😂 😂 😂 😂 12:03a.m. 10/21/2023
Sonic Superstars was alright.
Nothing incredible.
I personally don´t vibe with the classic aesthetic. It´s too rounded and smooth. Like I miss the edge and style the ds and advance games had.
Also the bosses tend to be kinda atrocious. Most of them are just a waiting game. And some of them (especially that fucking pig) don´t work that well imo.
Overall nice game, but not good enough that I have the patience to play through it twice and get every emerald.
edge and style like that is for modern sonic though
@@kaosagamerreal That's what I said.
I don't chive with the classic aesthetic too much.
"that fucking pig that I hate"
I wanted to like Superstars, but this game was very underwhelming gameplay wise and that makes or breaks a Sonic game for me.
You must think Sonic 4 is better than this
@@dreamsdeep1076 I actually do enjoy Sonic 4 both episodes more. Not ashamed of it.
its doodie
You have a beautiful face and eyes, I subscribe for that. :)
I do not like Sonic
then why are you here
Dude the bosses keep me from replaying it, goddamn this overpriced piece of shit that looks from 2 generations before, this game is miserable, it seems the budget only went to bridge island zone.
Thank GOD I bought this game for $30 for a holiday sale. I really wanted to like it too. It’s just awful. The stages are sporadic and all over the place, I discovered if you miss an emerald in a stage it’s gone forever. So you don’t get the special power up. There’s too many tedious boss battles, and I’m dreading the final boss. This game is trash.
I’ve been playing sonic since the very first one. I really really enjoy the game but I do agree. The physics is definitely off, so nothing like the original and multiplayer beyond a joke like I don’t know what the hell they were thinking with the multiplayer manias multiplayer was super fun
It's literally the same physics
Zoomers play Sonic?
Most slept on Sonictuber out there, good stuff man
I think this was a decent level-headed review. Nothing too heavily praised or outright negative. I just hate this culture where if you point out something you didn't like about the game, it's labelled as nitpicking. These are opinions that aren't based on facts, so why should it matter if we point out something minor that didn't work out for you or me? It still needs to be said and everyone should speak their mind about it if that's how you honestly feel.
I JUST GOT THE PLATINUM FOR SONIC SUPERSTARS AT 4:51p.m. 10/20/2023 AND IT IS CURRENTLY 11:39p.m. 10/20/2023
How about we focus on the true issue that messed with this game. Sega seems to learn nothing from their past mistakes and it happened again in ways that its a wonder why the developers of Sonic Mania got gypped. They got people who cant stop trying to do specific this or that that gets in the way of this game. There was even lore of this game that surrounded the final boss...and guess what Sega did?....You do not need me to answer a question this easy!!!!
Also Arzest are the guys behind Balan Wonderland and Hey Pikmin games....what made Sega think they were ready!?
This game wouldve been better if the soundtrack was better. Also Idk what it was about S3&K that felt so grandious. But this game is lacking that in a sense.
The final stage idea is a straight copy from Braid but done very poorly done (just like the entire game, Sonic Superstars not Braid).
I think I actually like the early Bridge Island zone theme way better than the new one
I have many many issues with this game so ill just say one. What was even the point of fang being in this game? Like seriously i spent like 5 hours trying to beat that final boss just to get one of the shittiest super sonic sections I've ever played in a sonic game. Why is fang not a playable character? Is it because in 2 months they're gonna try to sell him to me plus a music pack for 15 bucks. I don't wanna play this horrible game again anyway
I don’t think this video is thorough enough to say why the game doesn’t work. You sorta fast forwarded through your points and didn’t elaborate on others. I’d love to see another redo of this considering I personally think this is the worst 2D game for Sonic ever made.
Bruh sega needs to just fire Jun at this point
Sure he’s probably a nice guy and he made good music in the past but even new song he makes sucks
He doesn't need to be fired, he just needs to stop making Classic Sonic music
I think your jumping conclusions, jun senue is an amazing composer hear his other tracks in the other modern Sonic games.
@@bluequills80 ok maybe in the past but name one good song he’s made in a sonic game in the last decade (that was in a sonic game)
@@tylerb.gaming762 lost palace.
@@tylerb.gaming762A lot of the remixes in Sonic Colors Ultimate, and the soundtrack to Team Sonic Racing I guess, but within the last decade he's only been in those games.
Sonic fans call everything good... it's crazy...bad game = good... in this case average game = good... people thought Forces was good... all your doing is giving Sega the wrong signals by calling a meh game good
This game is the most miserable classic sonic experience since forces. I despise what this became and how insufferable the Sonic 4 ear cancer is along with the time wasting bosses how stupid the multiple multi phase bosses are and the zero fun and zero desire for replay value aside from trips slog of a campaign. This game every time I play it I’m left frustrated angry and feeling like my time is not valued in the slightest.