Shoshana Zuboff: Australia Facebook row ‘wake-up call’ for governments over tech giants control
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- We spoke to Shoshana Zuboff, Professor Emeritus at Harvard Business School and author of The Age of Surveillance Capitalism.
I began by asking what governments around the world should be thinking as they look at what Facebook has done in Australia.
Profesora Shoshana, you are saying exactly what we all need to hear. Thank you for your clear perception of what we need to do to ensure our survival as nations and citizens, to say nothing of individual right to privacy.
She works for a tech oligarch. This is all planned.
Great words. Thanks for saying them.
We need to own our own information and decide when and whom we sell it to, if marketing really is so desperate for it.
Take on these media tech giants and China, time to smell the coffee.
Reading a newspaper is not an act to be underestimated
Newspapers are as manipulative, at least with internet news is that you can find multiple sources
@@addmin5487 Be careful though not to end up being caught up in some echo bubble encouraged by certain ('tempting', but delusional) mickey mouse sources🤞🏻✌
Australian government: Facebook you must pay the news published on your platphome
Facebook: Sorry we cannot do that
Australian government: That is a must Facebook
Facebook: okay if so then we can no longer allowed you post it on our platform
Australian government:😡😠😡😠
In Australia, they want to force Facebook to pay for publishing news that are from private news companies. So they want to establish a guarantee of revenue for those companies. Facebook decided not to pay in therefore to ensure that such content is not available on their platform. That is fair competition. Otherwise I could create news content, publish on Facebook and request compensation.
The ban is just a response on trying to squeeze money from a big tech company.
The real problem is that the tech giants know us better than we do.
Also means they can censor news and mandate government controlled media. There has to be another solution
So refreshing and honest after sycophantic itv report into electric vehicles which completely ignored companies data collection of routes and denial of ownership of vehicle and corporations telling you how to use it dictating usage.
Wow ! Harvard professor I would like to hear more from her.
Ban Facebook in the UK!
Thank GOD for this woman!
I recall an episode of Sealab 2021- where the classroom teacher asked her students about the time the World was almost destroyed by the Internet.
I side with Facebook on this.
Facebook is a private company. It has the rights to do whatever it wants inside its own website.
It has the right to ban or suspend any user for whatever reasons.
Facebook does not produce any content.
It is the users who post content.
Why should Facebook pay for the contents that the users post?
Besides it is very easy to create a website like Facebook.
The Australian government or the news media could very easily create their own Facebook.
Nobody is forcing anybody to use Facebook.
Why should people go to read news in Facebook? Facebook is not a news channel or publisher. Face book by origin has some sinister objective. So people in Australia, if you need news, go to to proper news outlet. Don't confuse minds on the Facebook. Now real news publishers will have more customers. Weldone FB! Weldone Govt of Australia!
That is because THEY ARE LAZY, and too STUPID to "search" for information for themselves!!
Traditional media terrified of new media.
traditional media doesn't want to die and be replaced by facebook. do you want that? do you want ur info to be sold to read the news?
@@thegreypenguin2932 Did the radio replace newspapers? Did the TV replace the radio? Facebook isn't going to replace traditional media.
Nice to see someone else is playing attention!!!.😎
I want to be forced to rely on channel 4 for all my news. Any other source should be banned.
an answer: blockchain. decentralise the tech giants.
If social networks and search engines are now essential services then maybe they should be public property.
Well said.
Bravo!
No to vaccine passports, disgraceful. Sign the parliament petition.
Anyone outside the Twitter bubble could see something like this was going to happen after Trump was banned on such unstable grounds.
Everyone applauded the cage being opened until the lion turned around.
I like this lady she talks sense and is highlighting something extremely important and easily overlooked. We need to pay attention to her
Australia you need to pay us we need money
Facebook Na im gone
There is nothing wrong with that.
Nice to see someone else is playing attention!!!.😎
there only have control if you let them turn them off
Well, that's what you get when you have free market/laissez-faire based economy and little government interference in the west. When you have less government interference, you have corporations ruling over your lives.
No way is this on channel 4 .. waiting for them to call it a conspiracy
Facebook: " I am...inevitable. "
Australia: " And We... are ... the Australian people. "
Not going to happen... they of course own our information if we put it out there. It’s never personal after it’s on the internet
the information that probably exists about most people is enough to control them via creating echo chambers using social media, this needs to be explained to people. A lot of people think its just a like or a comment or its a just a photo etc but its a lot more.
We all had the notion and and the perception of what was presented. Though I believe that apart of that nobody has a plan or a concept as how to take back control from these all elusive tech giants.
A lot has also to do with the United States and how their governments allow these developments to continue.
That explanation of how Google started is just wrong.
It is true how Google first started.
@@JackyPup it's not even that they were the best... it's just that they squashed all the others into oblivion.
@@riannahavora they were the best search engine by miles. Alta Vista was way slower. The other search engines had messy, complex pages that took time to load before you could search. Google was clean.
The web doesn’t function without an index, Google was just better at that than anyone else. This entire premise is backwards, the internet has eaten News Corps lunch and they want to use their political connections to try to get revenue that they don’t earn.
Hallelujah! People give social media in general far to much importance anyway. Let it go and go back to real connections in real life. This would radically lower the mental health crisis in millennials and younger. Dealing with people in the real world creates important social skills and processes in the brain that we need to be happy and grow.
(This information is based on countless articles published by scientists and psychologists I’ve read, sources are CNN Health, Psychology Today, WHO publishings, Robert Koch Institut, among others)
No body forces you to put your personal info on anywhere. You open and agree to terms of agreement. Facebook is private company and they can do whatever they want on their business.
Hopefully this is the beginning and Facebook gets confined to the US where corporate tyranny is the natural reward for your obedience.
What a broken record. Facebook is respecting Australian law, which says that if they allow users to post links to news sites, they'll have to pay money to Australian news publishers. Amount of money to be decided by an Australian government arbitrator. They decided to not expose themselves to this liability and simply ban linking to news sites. Perfectly reasonable reaction. If you were forced to write a blank check to a third party if visitors did something on your property, you'd ban them doing it too.
Nah
what do you mean?
the Australian government simply pays back to Murdoch, when doing this.
it is mainly about who pays whom. it is about fees.
tactics that use money can only do so much, regarding demoracy and individual rights. too many people have no money.
we need something different, not such a cheap stand-off about just money.
look, Google made a little deal, and FB did not because Zuck has a bigger head or something.
where is this about democracy?
platform giants should pay a lot more taxes, and governments should give that budget to their independent press, and give the smaller press enterprises a reverse proportional, i.e. they get a higher percentage when they are smaller.
She's damn right Zuckerberg for jail 👍
They did create the pandemic in the first place with prioritize searches bases on highest deaths
Take on tech cooperations to benefit old media corporation that already own 90 of Australian news...
Most Oz media owned by Murdoch that other fake news spreader. World is better off without their lies.
Facebook Google and Amazon will have their own cryptocurrencies before too long. They will then become digital nation states.
Zuboff has a different costume, hairstyle and 'look' everytime she appears on screen
I am not FB fan but i agree with FB. You want to charge for news, then we Don't want your news go sell it somewhere else where they want it.
Yer suck on your own FB drivel, we don’t need to.
Facebook has become a real problem for the world.
Just because the Australian government are making laws to support their media mates doesn’t make Facebook wrong. Delete your Facebook account if you don’t like it.
Good luck
FBIbook
Stop using socialist media! Get a life!
Welcome to capitalism. Who owns the capital has the power. So called democracy is just their servant.
Capitalism is neutral. Socialism is evil.
👍👍👍
They got what they wished for
Because they created something more valuable than just regulatory blablabla with a serious face
The EU has been more than aware of problems of "big tech" and unregulated capitalism. But should be a wake up call for general people - stop being so lazy and casually handing them all this power. Look beyond the end of your nose
😂🤣
Channel 4 finally figured out that Facebook is too powerful and that free speech is important. It's about time.
PRO TRUMP ,I DON T LIKE HER
Wait I'm confused.
So 1) If you have Facebook, you have some kind of internet connection. And 2) News is available on the Internet, albeit some behind paywalls (remember we used to pay for news - but nevermind that), but a lot of it free. Therefore, it's Facebooks fault you can't get news.
No, wait that's not it.
It's Facebooks fault that they don't pay for the news for you, so you can get it for free. Yep, that's it.
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