It seems that most of your comments in this video were made years ago. I just want to say that I actively and regularly use your videos for my stats study routine. Since I am a visual learner, I find it difficult to keep up most of the time. However, your videos perfectly visualize stats concepts and explain them concepts in a succinct manner. Thank you so much for the help!
It's sad to say, but they should fire my professor and replace him with these youtube videos. He knows what he's talking about, but we don't. You know what you're talking about, and now I do too. That's an important skill to few people have
It is so nice to finally see it explained this way. I got really hung up with the way it was taught to me initially, because the teacher never mentioned the 'trade-off' going on between alpha and beta at all. He was focusing solely on the fact that POWER increases as alpha increases (and beta decreases). I could not warp my head around how increasing alpha (increasing the probability of a Type 1 error) could possibly be linked to greater POWER (probability of accurately rejecting the null hypothesis). That seemed totally counter-intuitive to me. This video does a great job of showing the trade-off involved - which is how it finally actually made sense to me. Anybody else run into this?
JB .I have already catched up my Prof's procedure with the help of your videos, and I am not afraid of the coming term test anymore. Thank you really much.
I most definitely agree that DE courses should incorporate resources like this. The answer to "why don't they" is that making videos like this is incredibly time consuming (and not that easy to do well). Nobody in their right mind has the time to do it. I certainly don't, but I'm crazy enough to do it anyway.
Thank you for your videos, I appreciate very much your dedication and profesionalism. Making videos as yours took you a lot of time but after 10 years people with education limitations, thousand of miles away and in the middle of places you would never ever imagine, follow your channel and learn to become a better professional and citizen thru education. You do not know us but we know you all doing good. You are an example of the good stuff youtube can offer us. Regards.
@@junal27 Thank you very much for the very kind words. I feel lucky to be able to do this, and help people out in my own little way. I know you're out there :)
you make more sense in 30 minutes of all your vids than my teachers have in 6 months, AND you cover things outside the OCR syllabus ie power and so much more important things i dont know if i should be impressed happy or mad or say at the situation
It is very useful for students who study probability courses and prepare for theirs final. I clearly understand the Truth Table after watching this video.
Wolfgang Icarus How many videos have you watched before stating this? Keep watching - if you are motivated to learn he is one of the very best statisticians on CZcams for introductory statistics!
Thank you for this video. After studying a bit of statistics in high-school, then at university having recently started an online course, I still couldn't get my head around the relationship between Type I and Type II error. Although you did not say it directly this way, I was able to deduce the following understanding in a more intuitive sense: There is or isn't a difference between two things, in reality, and this is independent of the statistical test we use. Whether our test detects this is another matter. So if we set alpha to a really low level, it basically becomes very hard to reject the null hypothesis...therefore our test most likely predicts 'negative'. Whether there is a difference (positive) or not (negative) is unchanged by how we affect alpha. Therefore, if a test is more likely to predict negative because of low alpha, for any given real difference we are more likely to falsely conclude a negative answer.
jbstatistics, i would like to appreciate your help with statistics as I knew nothing about it but now I understand most of the concepts because of you, You the best
Thanks for this video. Very clear and well paced. Do you have more on power? I was hoping to find more about how power, variance and sample size interact.
Matthew Taylor I have a video that walks through the factors that affect the power (of a Z test), available here: czcams.com/video/K6tado8Xcug/video.html.
Thanks for the feedback! It's definitely a good analogy, and does help to illustrate what goes on in hypothesis testing. To be fair, it's widely used and certainly not something that I was first to come up with :)
one thing I cant understand: I know is worse making a type I error than a type II, I just cant understand why... I understood the ideia of the criminal trial but why rejecting H0 when H0 is true is that bad? In my head I though that we should prior the high power (that means, increasing alfa). So my question is: why not commiting Type I error is more important then having a High Power?
So it seems that what matters is not whether the power is low or high but rather what you want the tradeoff between type I and type II error to be. If you care more about making type I errors, make alpha small and beta large. If you care more about making type II errors, make alpha large and beta small.
Correct me if I am wrong - For a small value of alpha, the type 1 error (false positives) increases. But in the video at 5:38, it has been shown that type 2 error(false negatives) increases. Can anyone help on this?
If we decrease the value of alpha, that makes it harder to reject the null hypothesis. So, we will not reject a true null hypothesis as often (we won't make as many Type I errors), but we will also not reject a false null hypothesis as often (we will make more Type II errors).
Why do we have more power when we increase alpha (which is probability of type I error, e.g. if we have alpha = 0.5, it means we reject H0 with p-value than 0.5), but logically we have more probability of being false, which contradicts to power definition? I understood power as "probability of being correct and not making type I error" (or formally, "rejecting H0 when it is false")
I'm not sure precisely what you're asking. The probability of a type I error is the probability we reject the null hypothesis *given it is true*. Power is calculated assuming that the null hypothesis is false in a specific way. For example, when testing H_0: mu = 10, we might calculate the power given mu = 15, or mu = 3. Here, the probability of a type I error would be the probability of rejecting the null hypothesis if mu = 10. As a hand waving argument, when we increase alpha, we make it easier to reject the null hypothesis and thus we increase the power for any value of mu (any value of mu that differs from the hypothesized value, that is). I go through detailed explanation of the effect of sample size, variance, alpha, and the true value of mu on power in another video.
In the criminal trial exercise shouldn't the null hypothesis be that the defendant commited the crime and vice versa for the alternative? Since the person is on trial It's assumed he commited a crime so the null hypothesis is equal to the original hypothesis of him commiting a crime and the alternative different is from him commiting a crime.
A person is assumed innocent until proven guilty. If only weak evidence is presented, then they are found not guilty and off they go. If very strong evidence that they committed the crime is presented, then they are found guilty. It is not the case that the person on trial is assumed to have committed the crime.
If P(Type 1 Error | H0 is true) is significance level, We can just write it as P(Type 1 error) = alpha, since P(Type 1 Error | H0 is true) is just P((H0 rejected | H0 is true) | H0 is true) which is just P(H0 rejected | H0 is true) which is P(Type 1 Error)
Next week I'm going to draw a sample and test the null hypothesis that mu = 100. In this scenario, the assumptions of the test accurately reflect reality. I'm going to use a significance level of 0.05. 1. If mu = 100, what is the probability I commit a Type I error? 2. If mu = 217, what is the probability I commit a Type I error?
well organized explanation. However, I have one concern. Take the example when beta =0.77 then the power (1-beta) should be NOT -0.23. WHat do U think??
1-0.77 = 0.23. The mark in front of the 0.23 isn't a minus sign, it's simply me indicating where 0.23 would fall on that axis. (Note that I have a similar mark indicating where 0.77 is.) Sorry about the confusion. Cheers.
Again a wonderful presentation, I enjoy listening to you. However, if I follow your explanation : power = proportion of people in whom you do not reject H0 given that H0 = TRUE. When you look up the definition in wikipedia it says Power = probability( reject H0 given H1 = TRUE) . It cost me some time to swallow that do not reject H0 | H0 =TRUE, is exactly the same as reject H0 | H1 = TRUE. Am I right?
Power is the probability of rejecting a *false* null hypothesis. Alternatively worded, power is the probability of rejecting a null hypothesis, given the alternative is true. (If the alternative hypothesis is true, the null hypothesis is false, and vice versa.) Power depends on various factors, such as the sample size, the true value of the parameter, the hypothesized value of the parameter, and the variance. The word "power" typically has positive connotations in English, and that holds true in statistics -- we like tests that have greater power. Rejecting a true null hypothesis is a bad thing, and that doesn't have anything to do with power. Your statement "do not reject H0 | H0 =TRUE, is exactly the same as reject H0 | H1 = TRUE." is not correct. Not rejecting a true null hypothesis and rejecting a false hypothesis are very different things. They are related in the sense that they are both correct decisions (decisions that are consistent with the underlying reality of the situation). Cheers.
I loved your tutorial. Thanks a lot sir. However, I have a doubt. At 4:01 in the video, I think it should be: P(Rejecting null hypothesis I Null is true) = P(type 1 error) = alpha instead of what is written, don't you think?
I think your's is indeed more accurate. He said "The chance of Type1 error, when H0=true, is alpha" You say "The chance of rejecting H0, when H0=true,is Type1 error and is alpha" Since a Type 1 error can only occur when H0=true, his statement doesn't make a lot of sense, but isn't wrong either. But in the end I don't think it matters much. Correct me if I'm wrong :)
A Type I error is rejecting the null hypothesis when it is true. (Phrased in a slightly different way, it is rejecting a true null hypothesis.) But let's try to express this as an event with a probability of occurring: P(Type I error) = P(Rejecting the null hypothesis when it is true) What does “when” mean? Does it mean “and”, or does it mean “given”? While we may mean “given”, it is not clear, and that's not the language that is used in the definition. We run into the same problem if we use the other phrasing: P(Type I error) = P(Rejecting a true null hypothesis). If we simply ask the question, “what is the probability of a Type I error?”, then this question cannot be answered, as we don't know whether the null hypothesis is true or false. The probability of committing a Type I error in a hypothesis test depends on the underlying reality: If Ho is false, P(Type I error) = 0. If Ho is true, P(Type I error) = alpha. If we know the null hypothesis to be false, then it would make little sense to say that the probability of a Type I error is alpha. In order to make the conditioning clear, I express this explicitly as a conditional probability: P(Type I error | Ho is true) = alpha. Without the explicit conditioning, stating P(Type I error) = P(Reject Ho when Ho is true) results in ambiguity. (Your statement of P(Reject Ho | Ho is true) = alpha is of course correct, when the assumptions of the test are true.) I realize that other sources don't explicitly include the conditioning in the way I do, but I feel that's usually an error and leads to some serious issues. For example, some sources have a question like: Q: Suppose we carry out 100 hypothesis tests, each at the 0.05 level of significance. Suppose also that the assumptions of the tests are true, and the tests can be considered independent. What is the probability that we commit at least 1 Type I error? As phrased, this question has a fundamental problem. The authors are looking for the answer 1-0.95^100, but it's not that simple. If none of the null hypotheses are true, then there is no chance that we will make at least one Type I error. The probability of committing at least one Type I error depends on how many of these null hypotheses are true, and that is not a known quantity in practice. To sum up, I feel that it's important to explicitly include the conditioning, and we often run into problems when we don't. Cheers, Jeremy
I had not thought that far ahead about multiple H0 where not all are false or true to look for that reasoning. I now realize I would answer a lot of questions that couldn't be answered :). On the matter of the language used, I was trying to translate the math into normal language, which brings it's own difficulties for a novice like me. I am also not a native English speaker, "given" in my language translates into "on the condition that". I accidentally used 'when' instead of 'given'. Yet your point remains the same. Thank you for clarifying your thoughts behind this.
Call me stupid but I don't understand something. I know that if type 1 error is small then the probability of not rejecting Ho when Ho true is large. How (if possible mathematically prove) the connection between α and β cause I cannot understand why if the one increases the other decreases.. THANKS
There are two ways of writing the hypotheses in one sided tests, with each one of them having pros and cons. If the appropriate alternative is H_a: mu > mu_0, then writing the null as H_0: mu
Typically we simply choose an appropriate value for alpha and go from there, and there is no optimum value of alpha (without imposing other constraints, like on the power in certain scenarios, sample size, etc.). But if a specific rejection rule was outlined, you might be asked to calculate alpha in that scenario. For example, if in a Z test we stated something like "We will reject Ho if Z > 3", we could calculate alpha for that specific scenario. But usually, the researcher simply chooses what they feel is an appropriate value for alpha for the given problem, which means they often just pick 0.05 (but don't get me started on that).
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Power is the probability of rejecting a false null hypothesis. Alpha is the probability of rejecting a true null hypothesis. They are probabilities calculated under different conditions (Ho being false / Ho being true), and there is no reason why these probabilities would need to add to 1.
Thankfully there are other videos on this, because i find your descriptions short, confusing, and leaves me more confused than if i try figuring out on my own. Unfortunately my school keeps referring to your videos, thankfully though like i said there are others. Sorry don't find your descriptions useful at all
It seems that most of your comments in this video were made years ago. I just want to say that I actively and regularly use your videos for my stats study routine. Since I am a visual learner, I find it difficult to keep up most of the time. However, your videos perfectly visualize stats concepts and explain them concepts in a succinct manner.
Thank you so much for the help!
Me, too. I mean I am a visual learner and I benefit greatly for this channel
It's sad to say, but they should fire my professor and replace him with these youtube videos. He knows what he's talking about, but we don't. You know what you're talking about, and now I do too. That's an important skill to few people have
Lots of these professors have zero knowledge or heart to teach undergraduates
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It is so nice to finally see it explained this way. I got really hung up with the way it was taught to me initially, because the teacher never mentioned the 'trade-off' going on between alpha and beta at all. He was focusing solely on the fact that POWER increases as alpha increases (and beta decreases). I could not warp my head around how increasing alpha (increasing the probability of a Type 1 error) could possibly be linked to greater POWER (probability of accurately rejecting the null hypothesis). That seemed totally counter-intuitive to me.
This video does a great job of showing the trade-off involved - which is how it finally actually made sense to me.
Anybody else run into this?
JB .I have already catched up my Prof's procedure with the help of your videos, and I am not afraid of the coming term test anymore. Thank you really much.
I most definitely agree that DE courses should incorporate resources like this. The answer to "why don't they" is that making videos like this is incredibly time consuming (and not that easy to do well). Nobody in their right mind has the time to do it. I certainly don't, but I'm crazy enough to do it anyway.
Thank you for your videos, I appreciate very much your dedication and profesionalism. Making videos as yours took you a lot of time but after 10 years people with education limitations, thousand of miles away and in the middle of places you would never ever imagine, follow your channel and learn to become a better professional and citizen thru education. You do not know us but we know you all doing good. You are an example of the good stuff youtube can offer us. Regards.
@@junal27 Thank you very much for the very kind words. I feel lucky to be able to do this, and help people out in my own little way. I know you're out there :)
Thank you jb for making statistics intuitive. It's almost 2022 and still the best CZcams channel to learn statistics!
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you make more sense in 30 minutes of all your vids than my teachers have in 6 months, AND you cover things outside the OCR syllabus ie power and so much more important things
i dont know if i should be impressed happy or mad or say at the situation
Thanks for the kind words! I suggest you simply choose to be happy about finding my channel :)
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It is very useful for students who study probability courses and prepare for theirs final. I clearly understand the Truth Table after watching this video.
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this guy often has really formal way of introducing statistical concept, it's like watching him read a test book
Wolfgang Icarus How many videos have you watched before stating this? Keep watching - if you are motivated to learn he is one of the very best statisticians on CZcams for introductory statistics!
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Clear, not too wordy. Thank you!
Thank you for this video. After studying a bit of statistics in high-school, then at university having recently started an online course, I still couldn't get my head around the relationship between Type I and Type II error. Although you did not say it directly this way, I was able to deduce the following understanding in a more intuitive sense:
There is or isn't a difference between two things, in reality, and this is independent of the statistical test we use. Whether our test detects this is another matter. So if we set alpha to a really low level, it basically becomes very hard to reject the null hypothesis...therefore our test most likely predicts 'negative'. Whether there is a difference (positive) or not (negative) is unchanged by how we affect alpha. Therefore, if a test is more likely to predict negative because of low alpha, for any given real difference we are more likely to falsely conclude a negative answer.
Clear explanation with good modulation of voice. 🙏
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very helpful vid thanks! How does the sample size influence beta?
great tutorial
Thanks for this video. Very clear and well paced.
Do you have more on power?
I was hoping to find more about how power, variance and sample size interact.
Matthew Taylor I have a video that walks through the factors that affect the power (of a Z test), available here: czcams.com/video/K6tado8Xcug/video.html.
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Your criminal trial analogy is brilliant!
Thanks for the feedback! It's definitely a good analogy, and does help to illustrate what goes on in hypothesis testing. To be fair, it's widely used and certainly not something that I was first to come up with :)
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one thing I cant understand: I know is worse making a type I error than a type II, I just cant understand why... I understood the ideia of the criminal trial but why rejecting H0 when H0 is true is that bad? In my head I though that we should prior the high power (that means, increasing alfa). So my question is: why not commiting Type I error is more important then having a High Power?
good job
So it seems that what matters is not whether the power is low or high but rather what you want the tradeoff between type I and type II error to be. If you care more about making type I errors, make alpha small and beta large. If you care more about making type II errors, make alpha large and beta small.
Correct me if I am wrong - For a small value of alpha, the type 1 error (false positives) increases. But in the video at 5:38, it has been shown that type 2 error(false negatives) increases. Can anyone help on this?
If we decrease the value of alpha, that makes it harder to reject the null hypothesis. So, we will not reject a true null hypothesis as often (we won't make as many Type I errors), but we will also not reject a false null hypothesis as often (we will make more Type II errors).
Surely we could think of more descriptive names than _Type I_ and _Type II._ Then people might understand this concept intuitively.
Why do we have more power when we increase alpha (which is probability of type I error, e.g. if we have alpha = 0.5, it means we reject H0 with p-value than 0.5), but logically we have more probability of being false, which contradicts to power definition? I understood power as "probability of being correct and not making type I error" (or formally, "rejecting H0 when it is false")
I'm not sure precisely what you're asking. The probability of a type I error is the probability we reject the null hypothesis *given it is true*. Power is calculated assuming that the null hypothesis is false in a specific way. For example, when testing H_0: mu = 10, we might calculate the power given mu = 15, or mu = 3. Here, the probability of a type I error would be the probability of rejecting the null hypothesis if mu = 10.
As a hand waving argument, when we increase alpha, we make it easier to reject the null hypothesis and thus we increase the power for any value of mu (any value of mu that differs from the hypothesized value, that is).
I go through detailed explanation of the effect of sample size, variance, alpha, and the true value of mu on power in another video.
In the criminal trial exercise shouldn't the null hypothesis be that the defendant commited the crime and vice versa for the alternative? Since the person is on trial It's assumed he commited a crime so the null hypothesis is equal to the original hypothesis of him commiting a crime and the alternative different is from him commiting a crime.
A person is assumed innocent until proven guilty. If only weak evidence is presented, then they are found not guilty and off they go. If very strong evidence that they committed the crime is presented, then they are found guilty. It is not the case that the person on trial is assumed to have committed the crime.
If P(Type 1 Error | H0 is true) is significance level, We can just write it as P(Type 1 error) = alpha, since P(Type 1 Error | H0 is true) is just
P((H0 rejected | H0 is true) | H0 is true) which is just P(H0 rejected | H0 is true) which is P(Type 1 Error)
Next week I'm going to draw a sample and test the null hypothesis that mu = 100. In this scenario, the assumptions of the test accurately reflect reality. I'm going to use a significance level of 0.05.
1. If mu = 100, what is the probability I commit a Type I error?
2. If mu = 217, what is the probability I commit a Type I error?
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well organized explanation. However, I have one concern.
Take the example when beta =0.77 then the power (1-beta) should be NOT -0.23.
WHat do U think??
1-0.77 = 0.23. The mark in front of the 0.23 isn't a minus sign, it's simply me indicating where 0.23 would fall on that axis. (Note that I have a similar mark indicating where 0.77 is.) Sorry about the confusion. Cheers.
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Again a wonderful presentation, I enjoy listening to you. However, if I follow your explanation : power = proportion of people in whom you do not reject H0 given that H0 = TRUE. When you look up the definition in wikipedia it says Power = probability( reject H0 given H1 = TRUE) . It cost me some time to swallow that do not reject H0 | H0 =TRUE, is exactly the same as reject H0 | H1 = TRUE. Am I right?
Power is the probability of rejecting a *false* null hypothesis. Alternatively worded, power is the probability of rejecting a null hypothesis, given the alternative is true. (If the alternative hypothesis is true, the null hypothesis is false, and vice versa.) Power depends on various factors, such as the sample size, the true value of the parameter, the hypothesized value of the parameter, and the variance.
The word "power" typically has positive connotations in English, and that holds true in statistics -- we like tests that have greater power. Rejecting a true null hypothesis is a bad thing, and that doesn't have anything to do with power. Your statement
"do not reject H0 | H0 =TRUE, is exactly the same as reject H0 | H1 = TRUE."
is not correct. Not rejecting a true null hypothesis and rejecting a false hypothesis are very different things. They are related in the sense that they are both correct decisions (decisions that are consistent with the underlying reality of the situation). Cheers.
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I loved your tutorial. Thanks a lot sir. However, I have a doubt. At 4:01 in the video, I think it should be:
P(Rejecting null hypothesis I Null is true) = P(type 1 error) = alpha instead of what is written, don't you think?
I think your's is indeed more accurate.
He said "The chance of Type1 error, when H0=true, is alpha"
You say "The chance of rejecting H0, when H0=true,is Type1 error and is alpha"
Since a Type 1 error can only occur when H0=true, his statement doesn't make a lot of sense, but isn't wrong either. But in the end I don't think it matters much.
Correct me if I'm wrong :)
A Type I error is rejecting the null
hypothesis when it is true. (Phrased in a slightly different way, it
is rejecting a true null hypothesis.) But let's try to express this
as an event with a probability of occurring:
P(Type I error) = P(Rejecting the null
hypothesis when it is true)
What does “when” mean? Does it
mean “and”, or does it mean “given”? While we may mean
“given”, it is not clear, and that's not the language that is
used in the definition. We run into the same problem if we use the
other phrasing: P(Type I error) = P(Rejecting a true null
hypothesis).
If we simply ask the question, “what
is the probability of a Type I error?”, then this question cannot
be answered, as we don't know whether the null hypothesis is true or
false. The probability of committing a Type I error in a hypothesis
test depends on the underlying reality:
If Ho is false, P(Type I error) = 0.
If Ho is true, P(Type I error) = alpha.
If we know the null hypothesis to be
false, then it would make little sense to say that the probability of
a Type I error is alpha. In order to make the conditioning clear, I
express this explicitly as a conditional probability:
P(Type I error | Ho is true) = alpha.
Without the explicit conditioning, stating P(Type I error) = P(Reject Ho when Ho is true) results in
ambiguity. (Your statement of P(Reject Ho | Ho is true) = alpha is
of course correct, when the assumptions of the test are true.) I
realize that other sources don't explicitly include the conditioning
in the way I do, but I feel that's usually an error and leads to some
serious issues. For example, some sources have a question like:
Q: Suppose we carry out 100 hypothesis
tests, each at the 0.05 level of significance. Suppose also that the
assumptions of the tests are true, and the tests can be considered
independent. What is the probability that we commit at least 1 Type
I error?
As phrased, this question has a
fundamental problem. The authors are looking for the answer
1-0.95^100, but it's not that simple. If none of the null hypotheses
are true, then there is no chance that we will make at least one Type
I error. The probability of committing at least one Type I error
depends on how many of these null hypotheses are true, and that is
not a known quantity in practice.
To sum up, I feel that it's important to
explicitly include the conditioning, and we often run into problems
when we don't.
Cheers,
Jeremy
I had not thought that far ahead about multiple H0 where not all are false or true to look for that reasoning.
I now realize I would answer a lot of questions that couldn't be answered :).
On the matter of the language used, I was trying to translate the math into normal language, which brings it's own difficulties for a novice like me. I am also not a native English speaker, "given" in my language translates into "on the condition that". I accidentally used 'when' instead of 'given'. Yet your point remains the same.
Thank you for clarifying your thoughts behind this.
Call me stupid but I don't understand something. I know that if type 1 error is small then the probability of not rejecting Ho when Ho true is large. How (if possible mathematically prove) the connection between α and β cause I cannot understand why if the one increases the other decreases.. THANKS
Are H_0, H_a not supposed to be one another's logical negations? I.e What is H_0 :mu = 10 and H_a: mu > 10 ?
There are two ways of writing the hypotheses in one sided tests, with each one of them having pros and cons. If the appropriate alternative is H_a: mu > mu_0, then writing the null as H_0: mu
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You are very welcome!
is there a way to solve for alpha?
Typically we simply choose an appropriate value for alpha and go from there, and there is no optimum value of alpha (without imposing other constraints, like on the power in certain scenarios, sample size, etc.). But if a specific rejection rule was outlined, you might be asked to calculate alpha in that scenario. For example, if in a Z test we stated something like "We will reject Ho if Z > 3", we could calculate alpha for that specific scenario. But usually, the researcher simply chooses what they feel is an appropriate value for alpha for the given problem, which means they often just pick 0.05 (but don't get me started on that).
okay. thanks a lot.
JB for the win!
Always a safe bet :)
nice teaching --- tumaru knowlege bhalu cha lagnu
Thanks!
anyone knows the accent? Where is he from?
I know! I'm from Canada (born and raised), and teach at the University of Guelph (near Toronto).
@@jbstatistics oh lol I didn't expect you to reply， thx
3:34 In Russia police cares only about good statistic and doesn't take into account guilty you or not. Thas more than 99.5% of cases in court end with a guilty verdict.
I started losing him after the graph. I hate stats.
It's good stuff! But it's not always easy and sometimes takes a while to understand. All the best.
why the power of the test is not 1- alpha?
Power is the probability of rejecting a false null hypothesis. Alpha is the probability of rejecting a true null hypothesis. They are probabilities calculated under different conditions (Ho being false / Ho being true), and there is no reason why these probabilities would need to add to 1.
+jbstatistics that makes a lot more sense to me thank you
Thankfully there are other videos on this, because i find your descriptions short, confusing, and leaves me more confused than if i try figuring out on my own. Unfortunately my school keeps referring to your videos, thankfully though like i said there are others. Sorry don't find your descriptions useful at all
this terminology have no right to exist
It sounds like someone was trying to make their job seem more difficult, it's insane