CSX's B&O Lima Line: Stops in Glendale, Dayton and Sidney, Ohio
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2021
- Today, we're along CSX tracks on the former Baltimore & Ohio line from Cincinnati to Lima.
We'll start off in Glendale, take a look around at one of the best railfan sites in the area.
Head north to Dayton and check out the Great Miami River Railroad bridge and learn a little bit about the Union Station that used to be in town.
Lastly, we head to Sidney and take a look at the Big Four Concrete bridge.
The first train we'll see is Q351.
It starts at Barr Yard in Chicago and makes its way south, only stopping to work the yard Garrett, Indiana, which is north of Ft. Wayne.
Glendale has signals in both directions.
There is plenty of parking and some benches set up to enjoy the passing trains.
This is an morning or early afternoon spot for photography.
The sun will shine nicely on the side of the trains from the east.
The former Cincinnati, Hamilton & Dayton Railroad Depot was built in 1880.
It's kept up nicely by the the Glendale Heritage Preservation.
A museum is inside the depot which was built to replace the original 1854 wooden structure which was leveled by fire.
The Village of Glendale and volunteers spent tens of thousands of dollars and thousands of man-hours to restore the depot.
It opened as the Glendale Heritage Preservation Museum in May of 1997.
The next train is Q561.
It starts in Selkirk, New York and finishes up at Queensgate Yard in Cincinnati, but not before working several other yards along the way.
The Baltimore & Ohio Lima line was acquired when the B&O purchased and subsequently merged the Cincinnati, Hamilton & Dayton RR in 1917.
It heads north to Toledo and Detroit.
It also offers access to eastern cities with a turn at Sidney and again in Deshler.
The Village of Glendale is a quiet zone.
The work toward a Quiet Zone began in 2017.
The Village worked closely with the Ohio Rail Development Commission, as well as CSX Transportation to establish the 11th Quiet Zone in Ohio and second one in Hamilton County.
A Quiet Zone is a designated area where trains are not permitted to routinely sound their horns while passing rail crossings.
There are two grade crossings; one at Sharon Avenue and south of there at Oak Avenue.
Engineers are only allowed to sound their horns under certain circumstances, including when passing another train or in the event of a possible emergency, say someone's on the tracks or maybe too close.
There are strict safety requirements in order to establish a Quiet Zone.
The village installed "quad gates" at each of its intersections.
"Quad gates" have twice the gates as a standard crossing, blocking traffic on both sides of the road for a passing train.
There are also magnetic sensors installed alongside the rails at each crossing.
These sensors notify the engineer of an oncoming train, as well as the computer operated gates, that an obstruction may be present on the track.
The fencing required by CSX changed the configuration of the parking lot and closed the pedestrian crossing near the Depot Museum.
There is a defect detector about two miles south of here in Woodlawn.
So, if you have a scanner you can get a heads-up on approaching northbound trains.
You can also usually pick up another defect detector about 12 miles from here, north of Hamilton at New River Junction.
The last train in Glendale is Q556, a daily that starts in Queensgate Yard and makes its way Collinwood Yard in Cleveland.
Along the way it stops to work New River, Ohio which is north of Columbus.
I went to Dayton and planned on setting up at the CSX Great Miami River Bridge.
I checked the signal west of the bridge and saw a medium clear at MC Cabin.
There used to be Union Station in Dayton, but sadly has been torn down.
Built in 1900, it was called "Tower Depot," because of its seven-story clock tower.
In 1931 the station opened an elevated platform to alleviate congestion between trains, streetcars and automobiles.
Lastly, Sidney is the junction between the north-south Toledo sub and the wast-west Indianapolis line.
Here we see train Q217. It starts in Greenwich Yard, in Philadelphia to Osborn Yard in Louisville, Kentucky.
It also works Twin Oaks in Pennsylvania and Cumberland, Maryland and runs through Marion, Ohio.
I've got two other trips in the works.
I went to Knoxville, Tennessee to get a look at Norfolk Southern's Sevier Yard.
I also am trying to put together a video on Seymour, Indiana and the CSX and Louisville & Indiana intersection.
I'm still hoping to follow a train from Louisville to Cincinnati or vice versa, so feel free to comment if you know a good time on the weekend to make that happen.
As always, please let me know where you like to railfan and where you think I should stop next.
Until our next trip, have a great day.
Dayton Union Station History
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Big Four Bridge History
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Time Stamps for Trains:
Glendale 1 SB: 1:00
Glendale 2 SB: 4:45
Glendale 3 NB: 9:15
Dayton: 12:35
Sidney: 20:47
When I was a boy I de-trained twice at Dayton Union Station from the National Limited before it was discontinued in 1979. I have always wanted to see what remains of the tracks at the site of the station, and this drone footage has finally done that. I am fascinated with Dayton's rail history.
That's awesome!
I wish I could have been as lucky to see it in person.
I'm glad the drone was able to show you what it looks like now.
I'd like to get a closer look one day and park nearby and see how close you can get.
I think sometimes if the signals light up, even though there's no train in the block, it could be that it's because the dispatcher has set up a route. Thinking out loud too :). Loved the video! I remember the CSX line there in Dayton having my favorite B&O signals.
I have lived and worked next to the B&O tracks through the Dayton area my entire life. Super cool seeing it from the air for the first time! The number of factories, foundries, and paper mills that aren't there anymore makes it almost surprising the railroad is still around! Thanks for the cool video.
Thank you very much Jeff, I do appreciate it.
It is sad to look at old pictures and see all the industry that's slowly disappeared over the years.
Drone Footage is Solid. You’re a very Unique Channel in many ways. Thanks for sharing content.👍
Thank you very much Ken. I do appreciate it.
This video sparks so much Nostalgia, as my family lives in both Dayton and Cincinnati Ohio.
Filming with drone, adds a plus to the vidéo, thanks for sharing these beautiful images.
Thank you very much, I do appreciate it.
Great job on the drone work, especially flying into Dayton where the terminal used to be.
Thanks Ben, I do appreciate it.
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Thank you. I really do appreciate it and am very glad you enjoy the videos.
Like your Communication and especially Like the Radio transmissions. Keep up Strong 💪 Effort.
I like your narration and drone footage and multiple angles is awesome. Like the history you provide too. Keep it up!
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Great video and narrations awesome and catches too, greetings from New Jersey.
Greetings from Cincinnati!
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I really appreciate your videos. If I may make a request for one of your next ventures: Follow NS from Portsmouth and CSX from Sciotodale down the Ohio River to the Catlettsburg refinery and the Huntington shops. Both lines should be fairly busy. Thanks!
I will definitely do that.
I've gone to Huntington twice with little luck, but that was only on the KY side.
If you have any good vantage points, please let me know
I typically use Google earth to plan my stops and sometimes the area is not at all what's depicted on the map.
I am working on a video featuring the CSX Russel Yard and some of the line between there and Cincinnati.
@@nkyrailfan I'm not sure of any good place to set up a tripod (but a drone will be great all over. Perhaps post up at the NS wye in Kenova? You can follow one across the river and if you're really lucky a CSX will cross underneath. Or follow a CSX between Russel and Ashland to see that steel industry from the air. Also downtown Huntington. And of course if you can get a CSX over the Sciotodale bridge would be amazing. I'll be excited to see your Russel yard video!
Great video! Thanks for posting!
Glad to hear you enjoyed it Scott.
Have a great day.
Nice !!!!
Thanks James.
I appreciate it.
One of my earliest memories was riding on a train from Cincinnati to Dayton. I was only five or six. After a visit to the Air Force Museum, my class and I return home on a bus.
In 6th grade we had a field trip scheduled to ride the train from Dayton to Columbus, then spend the day in COSI! Looked forward to it for about 4 months. Then the big day came, we arrived at school all dressed and ready to go and... the teachers went out on strike. SO - we did nothing at all that day instead.
Great narration and camera work! I learned a lot and the pacing was just right
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Awesome views! Great video! Enjoyed it very much.
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Very Nice Video
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Good Work With The Video.
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Thanks for sharing!
Happy to do so John.
Have a great day.
I was just there 2 days ago but no trains (Sunday). Like I told Jawtooth, always carry a sign "notch 8 please" to get added smoke effects. Great video and I love the trains on the bridge, almost like smoke on the water.
0:48 Two Diesels Are Pulling The Cars On The Rails, Pretty Cool, Huh?
Another awesome video, I like how you explain the tracks and where they go, I’ve seen most of the cities you filmed but still hard to picture in my mind which tracks go where.
Damn Dude I Love These Videos!!! Always Very Interesting...
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I have a couple in the works.
One featuring Deshler and the North Baltimore Intermodal facility.
A return trip to Bellevue and the NS yard.
A trip to Russell, Ky and the CSX yard and a few others.
Man I miss Glendale. Used to live up the road from there and would go around the corner to get some Dairy Queen and sit and watch trains.
This is bringing back memories. When I lived there that was before they made it a "quiet zone."
I get why a community would want a quiet zone, but I sure do miss the horns in the area.
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Very very nice presentation. A personal note however. The no horn ordinance in Glendale did require the added safety features, including the removal of the pedestrian only crossing as well as a the original stone marker just a foot or two from that spot. C14 embedded on one side. T181 on the other, depicting how many miles to both Cincinnati and Toledo. Next to it sat 2 benches. I really miss being able to sit there, no line of sight obstructions in either direction, no need for a scanner or really anything techno and just wait an afternoon away for a train to pass by and wave
Thank you very much.
I do miss the marker from there.
I wonder what happened to it.
You would've thought they could just relocate it or something but who knows.
Cool to be able to see Q217 use the connection. In theory, they could route the train via Indianapolis and the LIRC, but I don’t think that’s common.
Your drone skills are +1 legit. Smooth yaws and pans that survive being edited out in post.
Thanks Randy. I do appreciate that.
I usually get a little better (smoother movements) as the day goes on.
Great job i like the drone View.
Thanks Robert.
I do appreciate it.
Learned a lot about an interesting area I don’t know much about. Thank you for producing and sharing this.
I stopped in Seymour, IN, a few years ago. Interesting location but nothing came through. I caught a CSX auto rack train in Franklin by the old PRR station, however.
Thank you very much. I do appreciate it.
Seymour could be a nice spot, but it seems very little traffic goes through despite the upgrades made to the line.
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Since then they have installed 4 New Defect Detectors.
That is limited approach, I have seen that aspect only 3 times, but still, you were very close, I watched Distant signal and learned these, and I have been at Sidney for 14 years, and I have been learning and knowing symbols there for quite some time!
Thank you.
I should have known it was a limited aspect due to the flashing 🤦♂️
I was just happy to see the signals lit up.
@@nkyrailfan No problem!
A drone overhead view makes the train look like it's N scale
I seen a Norfolk Southern train heading North around 8:30 this morning on that line. I guess NS line must of been busy.
Yep, I've heard many people say NS is the busier of the two in and out of Cincinnati, but don't have anything to verify that.
They do send a lot of trains through the area.
Glendale has always been a favorite. During the Civil War, Morgan's raiders captured Glendale's station and sent telegraphs to the Union army in Cincinnati that Morgan was about to capture Hamilton. The Union army dispatched a force to Hamilton, meanwhile Morgan continued east following roughly Sharon and Galbraith Roads to Montgomery, Madeira and east to Milford..
Thank you for the history lesson.
I always appreciate learning more about these spots.
Red over Flashing Yellow is a “Limited Approach” 20:08
Thank you for the correction Walter. I do appreciate it.
Have a great day.
@@nkyrailfan no problem! Any chance we could get out Trackside. I live in Wyoming, and I would like meet other railfans
@@MisterBroadnax I'm sure we could make that happen.
If you ever get the chance on a nice day, head to Winton Place. You'll most likely run into more railfans.
Great aerial shots of some long well made up trains. I liked all the buckeye trees planted along the tracks in Glendale. Have you ever thought of doing historical pieces, like the history of railroading in a certain town, like Cinny or Dayton?
Thank you very much, I really do appreciate it.
I think the town put those up to hide the trains except for the parking lot area, but I agree they do look nice.
I would love to do a historical piece or two.
It would just be a matter of finding the right people to talk with and getting enough video and pictures for it.
I would certainly be open to any ideas or suggestions.
It's ironic to see a bridge that's well known in Philadelphia have a twin bridge in Ohio. I say that because the tan colored bridge, with multiple arches over a single arch, is a former railroad bridge in Philadelphia. Based on Google, the bridge opened in 1918. Going over freight tracks, Schuykill Expressway (I-76), Schuykill River, Main Street in the Manayunk section of Philadelphia, and the tracks of the current Septa Norristown Regional Rail Line. The Pennsylvania Railroad was the earliest train that ran on this bridge. Years later, Septa had bought the Pennsylvania & Reading Railroads and put together to make the Regional Rail System and given R#s. In this case, R6 line ran from Norristown to Ivy Ridge through Manayunk, Center City Philadelphia, Bala Cynwyd, over the bridge, ending in Ivy Ridge. As of the early 1980s or 1990s, no train service crossed the bridge. It is now a bike trail. Sorry I don't have photos, however, google Manayunk bridge. You'll see the resemblance.
I'll have to check out the Philadelphia bridge.
I'm a big fan of this Ohio version.
@nkyrailfan Hello. Good day to you I finally got a photo of the bridge here in Philadelphia. I would like to share it with you. I'm trying figure out how. If you know how I can do so, please let me know. Have a good day.
Would really like to see some video of switching and such that happens behind the Bannon Wye in Louisville, KY. There is a Ford truck plant and several other businesses served by CSX back in there.
I will see what I can do for you James.
Let me know if you are aware of any busy times.
I know everything is off schedule now due to the microchip shortage for the Ford vehicles.
Wish you would have followed it on up north to Lima where I live and the yard plus the other connecting lines then on up north
I will try to do that one of these days soon.
I've driven through Lima plenty, but never stopped to railfan.
If you know any good spots, let me know.
Hello! Was that an Empty, Full or Semi-Full Auto Carrier at the end of your video ? It was Long. Thx!
I really don't know. I went back and tried to look at the springs on the cars but couldn't get a good enough look.
This is purely a guess, but I would say they' would likely be empty since a Ford assembly plant is there and it would need empty autoracks for the vehicles.
Again, that's just a guess.
Were you just at Sidney two days ago? I was at Sidney yesterday and some guy said that the day before there was someone flying a drone around. He said he was from Northern Kentucky so I am guessing he was talking about you. This guy drove a ford escape. Anyways, Nice video!
Yep, that was me.
The railfan was a really nice guy.
He showed me a book he's been working on during the pandemic with train pictures from all over Shelby County.
@@nkyrailfan yep that was him! He showed me the same thing. Pretty cool!
That's a steep grade on the connection track between the B&O and the Big Four.
Yeah, it does seem pretty steep.
The few pieces I could find on it, said CSX quickly put it together and didn't put much planning into it.
You should land the drone on the tank car and let it drive for a mile or two.
For all the times I’ve been to the Cincinnati area, I’ve not been to Glendale.
You definitely need to stop by if you're in town. It is a great set up and normally you should see a decent bit of NS and CSX action on the line.
First, if your looking to catch a train going from Louisville to Cincinnati, via the L&I and the B&O, you will need to start at Louisville, preferably early. The line is used as a directional relief valve for the LCL line you have previously videoed. Id wait near Papa John's stadium and wait for a long CSX train to head up to to the LIRC with DPUs. If it's got local power, it's the Nabb job, that switches the remaining B&O tracks around Jeffersonville, Yes there still is a bit of ex B&O trackage left there. There is one CSX pair each way between Indy and Louisville on the LIRC, so you may end up with that train. But if you catch a CSX northward on the LIRC with a Q2XX or Q5XX symbol, good chance it's going to Cincinnati. The signals up top on the bridge at Sydney use NORAC assets. On NORAC that is a Medium approach. The signal type doesn't matter in this case, as there are new CSX signals on the Indy line using the NORAC signal aspects. The rules don't care what signal mechanism is used to display the aspect.
Thanks for the great info!
I do really appreciate it.
I figured I'd need to start in Louisville to catch a train.
I actually caught a local about two weeks ago and wasted at least an hour or so in Seymour, waiting for a train that never came.
By any chance, do you know if anything leaves Louisville on a Saturday and goes to Cincinnati?
@@nkyrailfan Its all luck of the draw, Any train that uses the LCL from Louisville to Cincinnati is a potential candidate for going via Seymour. It's luck of the draw. One exception, the train that handles containers generally won't use the Seymour route because of the location of the Cincinnati intermodal yard. However right now, with Ford's chip shortage and them parking trucks without chips all over Kentucky, It may be harder then usual to catch something via Seymour. In the meantime, if you want an interesting drone video.. buzz over Kentucky Speedway, every inch of it is covered in parked chipless ford trucks.
@@nkyrailfan Also, Q687 Q688 are the two CSX Indy Louisville trains, but they run at night I see now. I am checking with sources if the Ford truck problems are causing CSX not to send anything via Seymour to Cincinnati.
@@nkyrailfan I asked around and got this "Q216, Q352, Q504 all use Indiana Sub. Q202, Q574, Q576 will occasionally run that way "
@@Alcochaser thank you very much.
I really do appreciate it!
Also did you hear about the horseshoe Curve derailment
I had not but will look into it now.
Thanks for the heads up.
Looked like around 11 mostly Fed Ex cars Derailed over on Sides and it’s looking like “Straight Line”.
Deshler Ohio
I've been there once before and plan on going back when I can find the time.
@@nkyrailfan you should come back to Glendale ohio some time
These monster DP trains have no place on eastern railroads. There territories that eastern railroads run in do not have the abilities accommodate these super long trains. Sidings are not long enough, train meets have to be planned hours in advance, and yarding one of these trains is a nightmare. Cutting the thing up in to 3 and 4 cuts to yard it, takes hours.
It's crazy how big these trains are, especially given how small some of the sidings are.
I see trains all the time being held out of the yards in Cincinnati in both directions.
I can only imagine how long it is to break a 13,000 foot train down.
I would it if you could look at the trains in Cleveland. I have not seen any really good recordings. I am really upset et about the lack support for repairing the rails systems there especially the historical tracks and trains. I am originally from Ohio and our tourism is not nonexistent but the Industrial history of our state makes me strongly consider these historical industries important to keep operative. I saw a video about the Hewlett’s being saved and removed for museums as a posed to leaving them I tack, working to just save as Cleveland Industrial history. I am concerned that we will not continually request funding to restore the important historical points in our Industrial states. I look at other countries (Germany) I who have not lost their historical value and use the rail systems to define the region preserving the history surrounding the industrial era. I do consider myself a political concern person. The youth of our country is painful to watch us throwing away our history for modern architectural projects only. The beautiful of Ohio is the land scape itself and apart of that is our industry that built Ohio. 😘😘 I ❤️ your channel!