Rick Moranis & Tom Arnold in a Slasher?
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- Big Bully, the "comedy" movie which turns into a slasher by the end with Tom Arnold trying to get Rick Moranis.
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Finding out this movie and House were made by Steve Miner made me realize, both movies are about a traumatized writer confronting their horrible so-called friend who blames them for their hellish existence!
They're also both for and about Baby Boomers, Hollywood's favorite generation.
In response to a few comments-- Rick Moranis's wife did die, in 1991, and this movie came out in 1996 and he retired in 1997. He didn't immediately retire due to her death, I think he just found travelling exhausting as a single father. Being in crappy movies like this with no return to show for it probably didn't help.
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Yes, that's what I thought. He made a good choice: thinking of family first
I definitely think he should have switched to drama like Robin Williams and Bill Murray.
@@scottylewis8124 i think he would've done well, but depends on an actor's headspace and how far they get involved with method acting. Some who are capable of drama can find it mentally and emotionally tolling on their health and well-being. Given Ric's life at the time, doing drama would've probably made him channel into some negative thoughts that would worsen any existing depression or grief he was feeling (or maybe not; it's different for every person grieving the loss of a spouse)
@@Account_Not_Applicableactors don't default to method acting tho
I really respect Ric Morranis. Retired for the right reasons at the height of his career.
The man is a legend for a reason; if you haven’t seen them, I recommend Strange Brew and My Blue Heaven since they tend to be overlooked
Dude went home and raised his kids. That's really the coolest way to end an acting career.
@@longlivethesheet4561Yeah, I've never understood why My Blue Heaven isn't more popular. It's literally the comedic take on Goodfellas, released the same year as Goodfellas. They're a perfect double feature. Strange Brew is also quality stuff.
@@jamesoblivion “What’s arugula?” “It’s a VEG-A-TABLE”
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I would also recommend watching SCTV. Rick is hilarious in that comedy sketch show, and teamed up with wonderful talents like John Candy.
That library fee is wrong, the five cents a day times 8862 days is $443.10. What kindve crazy interest does the library have? Otherwise his math is so off it's crazy.
It's ridiculous anyway, like so many other things in this movie, since they couldn't reasonably charge more than the cost of the book.
This movie was constantly being sold as being something wacky and cartoonish in its advertising, but the actual film itself mostly feels like a drama with mean-spirited “comedic” moments that are too understated to even be taken as jokes
Seeing this as a teen honestly put me in a miserable mood
Somehow this movie is less mean spirited than the Christian musical Hi Tops which the proshot literally has the audience laughing hysterically at the nerd and the Angel turned into a nerd and how awkward they are. It’s pretty bad. Also Cool Cat Vs Dirty Dog Unleashed’s premise is extremely mean spirited as Cool Cat is literally using a weaponized jet to fight Dirty Dog which makes the fight incredibly unfair because Dirty Dog gets absolutely nothing to fight back with which ironically makes Cool Cat the bully.
Tom Arnold's movies will do that to you.
@@Dreadjaws What about True Lies?
@@graemesmith6721 That's not really a Tom Arnold movie. He's there, but he's not even a secondary character.
Maybe I'm just broken by watching so many bad movie reviews, but I really feel like this is one of those bad movies that has a truly great idea behind it. This was that era where "studio interference" was at an all-time high, but it was also completely incomprehensible and often contradictory, so you'd get a script for something like a weird horror genre subversion (the bully snaps as an adult seeing Moranis' character's seeming success because it turns out Moranis WAS bullying him through snark/mockery, but all the adults believed big kid=bully every time) and some dipshit executive would go "Eh, I don't get it/it won't play in the Flyovers" and suddenly: it's a "kids' movie." This is a one of the few times I'd 100% believe the director if he came out and said "it was intended as a parody/satire." Stuff like the Don Knotts joke not smashing you over the head with the punchline, everyone just blaming crack because it was the mid-90s, EVERYTHING with Jeffery Tambor, and the entire 3rd act really nod toward a better, subtler, weirder movie that never was.
Also marketing this as a "kid's movie" is so...incredibly '90s. "Yeah, there's a weird amount of sexual themes and violence, but barely any swearing and actors mostly known for kids' movies, so it MUST be a kids' movie! There's a child actor right there, how could it NOT be???"
This is also why I think if you want to make movies or any other kind of art you probably SHOULD watch bad movies/play bad games/read bad books etc. Everyone usually points to it being a good way to see what not to do but I feel like there is even more one can gain from experiencing bad art. Bad art can have good ideas that could totally inspire you to make something great. I have also seen one person (i do not remember who) say that playing bad games as a game dev can be helpful because often times really creative solutions to problems can be found in crappy games (probably because they were made by thinking outside of the box/without knowledge of standard design rules for both good and bad).
When I was a kid, my family finally got a satellite dish (the cool new thing) and I was so excited that I set my alarm for about 4 in the morning just to get up and watch TV. I snuck upstairs to find my mom there just starting this movie. For that reason, I love this movie. It was my introduction to a world of more than just local channels. It's weird how even with that memory, it seems to exist and not exist at the same time.
This feels like there was a brainstorming session of people going "Oh here's an idea" and then at the end somebody presents a script that tried to incorporate everything
6:35 hold the hell up, at $.05 a day the late fees for something that's 8,862 days overdue would only be $443.10, not $6,886. It'd have to be over 366 years overdue to rack up that much.
I can't believe this movie made a math mistake.
Maybe the library has a crazy interest rate
You know, they're right. With some careful editing, this could've easily been a horror short. Just show the beginning when they were kids, show a title card of many years later, resume the see-saw event, let the movie continue until Tom Arnold falls off the waterfall, then roll credits.
I know part of why Moranis retired is because of his wife dying and him wanting to care for his kids in her absence. That said, I sorta wish he could’ve pulled a Bill Murray or Robin Williams and steadily transitioned into more dramatic roles alongside the comedic ones he did in his peak. He arguably could’ve pulled it off, especially if he was given the right role to work with.
He was also assaulted by a stranger who was mentally unstable and that hurts to know that he pretty much went into hiding after that yes he was retired pretty much at that point but he was still making appearances on shows and stuff
He is one of a few comedy actors that I dedicated entire section of my movies to
@@emperortrevornorton3119No, the assault happened in 2020 and was very much separate from his semi-retirement in the mid 90's.
@@gamemaker1802 yes but he was occasionally showing up on commercials and tv shows as bit parts nothing long running and sometimes shows up on talk shows but he hasn't been seen really anywhere
@@emperortrevornorton3119 He was supposed to do a honey I shrunk the kids sequel but according to Josh gad, the film's star, he said the budget got too high so I don't know what's left of it anymore, but he never said it was cancelled either so I don't know. But even before the assault in 2020, he was seldom If ever doing interviews. I know for a fact that If he made in appearance in something like Stranger Things and gave a good performance in that, his career would've exploded, especially when you consider that it's set in the same era where his career was at an all time high and that would've generated even more interest and word of mouth at his return to acting if he did something like this.
Big Bully is a frustrating movie because there's a germ of a good idea here with the father/son role reversal and the bully reverting back to his old ways as a means to avenge his bullied son from the former victim's family whose oblivious to their son's bullying
I like how Rick Moranis' character is being bullied by Tom Arnold's character whereas their kids are in reverse roles
That's the bones of an actual good movie, where the the two dudes become friends by befriending each other's kids and trying to stop the past from repeating but instead we got nothing.
Okay, but that one bit in the beginning...
"But the old man was deaf or something."
"I'M DEAF OR SOMETHING!"
That actually got a laugh out of me
Fun fact, the guy he signs the book for, is Matt Hill, Ed from Ed Edd n Eddy 😂
But also of Next Mutation Raphael fame!
@@phelous I’m trying to forget that existed 😂 I interviewed Matt on my other channel, “Mr. Tim” and we talk about TNM
Eyy you brought back “what? in the world?” I love that running joke
I actually happened to rewatch Big Bully on Prime yesterday so I can accurately/confidently say this vid gave me 6x the laughs.
Still trying to figure out how 0 x 6 works mathematically though.
Are you saying this video gave you zero laughs? Rude
@@limalepakko6074 6, my guy. 6.
@@limalepakko6074that isn’t what they said at all
@@limalepakko6074You need to reread the original commenter’s comment.
35:36 I didn’t know that a Mexican beer with a piece of lime shoved halfway into the bottle would be considered such an exotic drink 🤷♂️
It's the movie's way letting the audience know with sledgehammer subtlety that these are unsophisticated small-town hicks.
I have a very vivid memory of this, though for years I had forgotten the name and called it "this weird movie with louis tully and the guy from best damn sports show" A local tv station showed this movie every other saturday for an entire summer as their saturday afternoon flick and i somehow managed to catch the entire thing without ever actually sitting through it in one go. That was a weird summer, so this movie was very fitting
I guess the principal joke could have worked if it was like “oh nothing, you haven’t aged a day.” Or something like that instead of just kinda shrugging it off
That was part of the joke, it's meant to be a subtle moment where the viewer processes it on their own rather than just handing it to them
@@Chef_Alpoit’s a little bit too subtle I guess
I’m so glad you went into the horror part of the movie. It’s easily the highlight
At least he didn't totally retire from acting, for he's been doing some animated voice-over roles in recent times.
*The Toy Taker!*
Oh yeah 😊
@@Mr.BeastFacts He was also one of those two Moose brothers in the 2003 Disney animated film Brother Bear.
Also, that Mint Mobile commercial a few years ago w/Ryan Reynolds
@@wesmcinerny4524HOLY! That was him?!
I love this husband and wife duo!!
They're married?
@@dubuyajay9964 yep! September 2021!
@@PeacefulAutistic Are they in SW US or Canada?
@@dubuyajay9964It’s probably easier for Americans to come to Canada to live so maybe Canada? Idk who moved where but considering her videos have a different background (when she does do live shots and not just voice over) over the last couple years I’d think Canada.
@@dubuyajay9964Canada. That’s Phelous’ room they’re in so 🤷♀️
It took me until the wet willy scene to remember that I watched this in the 90's having rented it when it first came out available to rent. crazy I forgot to have it somewhere still filed deep within my brain...
This movie sounds like a gold mine of great ideas. Get your pickax, Hollywood!
I remember watching this movie and there was one things that I found interesting about it: the adult bully was miserable in his life with no-end job, nagging wife and camper for a house, and then he starts to bully again his now-adult victim and suddenly feels rejuvenated and full of life. I found it as a kind of a commentary on how bullying sometimes works - the bully victimizes others to get an outlet for their life situation.
I remember seeing the trailers for this when I was a kid. I'm sure I annoyed the pure living fuck out of my parents by singing "Wooly Bully" constantly. I also remember always saying "Do you think the moon wock will bonn?"
Phelous video on monday ?! Well that makes mondays much, MUCH better !
I caught the first 20-odd minutes of this movie on TV way back in 2003. Even back then, I could tell this movie was headed for Insipidville.
Even the magic of Rick Moranis can not change my contempt for every Tom Arnold project.
Honey, We shrank the bullies.
I watched this movie as a kid, and thats why i returned my library book at the drop off and not the desk
This was one of my favorite bad movies growing up. also the first movie I watched with Rick Moranis in it. completely deranged nightmare of a movie.
I just saw this movie last month, and I'm not surprised he retired after this. It was the best possible call 😂
The craziest thing about this is that there's very clearly a lot of potential with this movie. I feel like any time you guys said "this would have been better if..." so and so that was very likely in the minds of the writer and director but studio interference probably forced them to go on a safer but ultimately unsatisfying route.
I believe Rick’s character is a literary fiction writer, which isn’t a popular as popular genre fiction, hence the jokes about Stephen King.
Although King has written lit fic as well, like Green Mile
And yet it's all most classes want to teach.
I never heard of this movie until now, but I can see why I haven't. Pretty good review
This really is one of those movies where you can see a better movie existing from a lot of the same cast and scenes and parts, but it'd require a ton of rewrites and editing. I also have to wonder if maybe Rick Moranis was getting a little over playing these types of characters by this point, even outside of his personal life changing his priorities. He definitely has more range than just playing dweeby guys.
I’m learning so much 😊also how big bully should ended: Phelous and Alison Edition😜
This idea in the hands of say Danny Devito directing, now we have something.
Brilliant use of Simpsons clips Phelan.
When you said " last theatrical movie" it then made sense because I knew that Honey, I Shrunk Ourselves (and that one was really a TV-movie, you can tell) was Rick Moranis's last movie before retiring. Rick did come back sort of in a commercial with Ryan Reynolds (who was fan boying all over Rick and it's understandable XD =) not too long ago.
I still prefer Tom Arnold and some of his movies than Pauly Shore and any of his movies!
I think the way this movie handles it’s subject is just another indicator of how normalized bullying used to be (I like to think it’s gotten a bit better recently). The scene with the main character telling the kid how to not be bullied by his son is probably the most horrible example of that
Unless it’s supposed to be satire or something, idk
Honestly, Rick's response to his neighbour saying he thought about killing his wife, may be the most legitimately funny moment in the film.
Wow, great Simpsons joke Phelan!
it would be interesting to see him stand up to his son and address his bullying in a sort of full circle thing
I remember seeing part of this on TV while flipping around, but I started at the seesaw part and stopped watching before the waterfall. Probably the best way to watch it. The seesaw to the balls thing is probably why I avoid them to this day.
I could see this made into a horror film. It have to have the same cast. The only way it would work.
You said "space rock" and I knew that this movie was going to be a lot.
I've watched this video a few times now, but I just don't get why it had to be a space rock. Isn't the only relevant part of that plot point the fact that child Tom Arnold stole something and went to juvie for it?
Ha, RLM just had their Re:View of Little Shop of Horrors and when talking about Rick Moranis’ other roles I don’t think they mentioned this one, which got me thinking about it.
I love how you two are around each other 🥰
Subtle gag I really like, the flame on the firefighter's lighter is set insanely high.
Speaking of mid-tier Tom Arnold movies, you guys should totally review Carpool from 1996!
ETA: yes! You mentioned it. It’s so delightfully bad.
The thing that always confused me about this was how in the TV spot, there's a bit where kid Rick Moranis is overdubbed by an obvious adult saying "Hi, Fang!" in a kid voice, but in the movie itself, it's just the child actor. Even as a kid, that was a "What the..." moment.
It's like the movie thinks bullying is inherently comedic, so they don't bother in adding any real comedy to the constant misery of being bullied.
The score reminded me very much of Matilda (1996), and sure enough it's by the same guy.
I think we can all agree that he made the right choice to stop acting & be there for his kids.
💯 Best Dad!😉
I prefer The Stupids and Carpool over this. At least those were creative in their weird plots.
Oh Lord no. I hated the Stupids. I’ll take Big Bully any day. That former movie just shows me how fall John Landis fell as a filmmaker.
The Stupids I didn’t think was that bad as the family did live up to their names and were pretty accurate portrayals to how they were in the books.
Stupids not so much, Carpool? Oh yes. Arnold worked way better with David Paymer and the kids than Rick and the kids in this, and it had a way better director in Arthur Hiller. It was cheesy and more for kids but it had a bigger heart than this one and is a blast to watch. If Arnold had done just this one and Carpool I don't see his 96 being so disastrous. The Stupids really made him look bad and put his leading man run on a permanent end.
This movie is fascinating because you can see and hear how completely done Rick Moranis is, he’s just over it
Roscoe punching David in the balls *THAT'S MY PURSE I DON'T KNOW YOU!*
Curtis's character could easily have been Charles Del Mar from Better off Dead all grown up and strung out from snorting pure snow.
If I'm ever home sick soon, I just wanna watch all your videos while I'm on and off sleeping and it'll be the best sick day ever 👌👌
I love all these joint reviews you've been doing recently! They're super fun.
I hate that you guys made up a dark comedy that I genuinely want to watch instead, but can't!
You know I forgot Rick is In Ghostbusters😅 i know he was in that honey I shrunk the kids thing🤔
lol his son is the "naked woman!" Lady Godiva kid from charmed
Don Knotts, Carol Kane and Jeffrey Tambor, there are some talented people in this.
Btw, surprised there were no WWF jokes. Googling Big Bully brings up a wrestler called Jim Jacobs who ran by this nickname! :P
Tbh they should have made this an IT style horror movie, it probably would have worked better
It's been ages since I've seen this film, but part of me wondered if it was real...
The more I rewatch this review the more I recall fuzzy memories of watching once on tv when I was about 15. I remember watching some movie about some moon rocks being stolen by some kid but couldn’t remember what it came from.
29:48
Peter Venkman from The Real Ghostbusters (in Lorenzo Music's voice, of course), "It wasn't that funny."
Old Man: "you're right Peter, because he's completely useless now."
Wabuu: "This crossover of Phelous' running gags is sooooooooooooooo stuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupid."
CROSSOVER INTERRUPTING BEAR 🐻
Wuschel: "What am I doing here? I don't have a catchphrase"
Beauty: gasp
37:21 What a Cool Transition showing both actors.
I remember being a kid and always catching this movie on tv, I liked it.
Honey, I Shrunk the Kids: The TV Show, RIP 'Peter Scolari'.
I remember this movie well, and I think you guys are off on the assessment overall, the movie builds up or progresses into the change in tone and the stages in the plot carry it to the nutty climax. I also think it has pretty typical pacing for the family friendlyish comedy movies of the time.
If it were a bit quirkier and more awkward in the delivery I believe it would have a cult following, but as it stands I think it portrayed what it intended, it just happens to be a B movie premise with an A budget.
Agreed. They tend to overdo their reviews and make movies out to be worse than they truly are. BB's not that bad a movie, could it have been better? Yes of course.
I don't think I watched the whole thing but I vaguely remember the climax of this movie from childhood as some sort of fever dream.
Looked up filming locations. Big Bully was filmed a three hour drive away from where they filmed the IT miniseries
Phelous and Alison’s enemy, Tom Arnold.
Ric was the mannnnn i miss him in movies but u respect his choices
I have a pretty good memory of the movies I’ve seen, but I had completely forgot I’d seen this one.
Allison still has grace in her face... 🥰
The moon rock granted Principal Kokelar immortality
Rick Moranis most likely would've retired regardless of the quality of this film to take care of his kids.
It's like Adam Sandler's That's my Boy. It's a Comedy that feels more like a Thriller.
The reason for Rick Moranis stepping down from acting and just doing voice acting, was because of his wife passing away...
Sure, "Big Bully" bombing at the box office kinda did him no favors, but it certainly wasn't Moranis' fault.
I'll just say: maybe watch the video before commenting on the title? Titles for CZcams videos need to be eye-catching so people click on them, they don't always have to be 100% accurate. This is essentially a simplification/urban legend: his wife had passed 6 years prior to this movie even coming out.
The crack guy is curtis "booger" armstrong. From the revenge of the nerds and moonlighting, there was also a popular simpsons reference to him.
28:55 I died laughing at "You will perish in flames!!!" **throws vase**
"Look - Killer Clowns on the moon."
-"Yeah."
From The writer of Grumpy Old Men, Jack Frost, Ghost Rider and The Ben Affleck Daredevil. This guy had one good movie in him, the rest went to heck.
Something must have happened in the production of this movie, but I can't find anything. Miner was never great, but he had been a solid hand on films like "Forever Young" and "Wild Hearts can't be broken". He mostly did TV the rest of his career, but he was mainstream.
In the abstract, it looks like any of a number of bad mid 90's comedies, like "Getting Even With Dad" or "Jingle All the Way" or "Mr. Magoo". But with those films I at least get the bad idea they had. What story did they really want to tell with Big Bully? I suspect the original relationship then and in the future changed frequently as they were shooting so when they were done it was a swiss cheese.
Adding Mr. Moranis' assault to his last film, goddamn.
For a movie about bullying, it's not as insulting as you think.
When they wrestle Urkle on Family Matters is every CZcamsr boxing match to me...
I don't know why I have such a good memory this film but I do for some reason.
I really hope we're closer to you both covering the Tom Arnold movie I watched the most growing up, Carpool also from 96'
11:44 sorry, I needed to timestamp this gag, it's too good to forget
Big Bully 2 will be mostly shot in Vancouver on a boat with one brief scene in Times Square where Tom Arnold just glances around.
Please stick with me guys, this Big Bully story lands:
This movie has been a quote monster in my house since I saw it in the theater, which is all insanity on its face.
("WhaDDAsammmHELLLLL?")
("But you can call me...Ross.")
("Daaaaaaaveyyyyyy...")
("Greeeeen Eggs and Haaaammm...")
("It becomes...hot dish...")
("What? More PEASSSS?")
Even crazier, as a child I started collecting theater posters, and the dumb, plain white one-sheet of Fang hugging Davey was one of them...and I still have it. Up. I'm 40 in two weeks.
Crazier still, as soon as eBay was officially a thing, I bought the Knievel toy set, x2, boxed/loose. I still have them.
Not-so-crazy side note: I purchased the Duke Kaboom! toy set for my kid after Toy Story 4 came out; it emulates the Knievel set from the film...and she loves it like Davey did. Our favorite book, for a time, Green Eggs and Ham...my stolen copy (though from a church(?!), not a library).
The book isn't a moon rock...but nobody's looking for it/me, so I'm in no danger.
Small world side note: I met the screenwriter, Mark Steven Johnson, shortly after he directed Daredevil/Ghost Rider, at a comic convention when he was the original choice ti helm the Preacher film adaptation from DC, which never materialized. Everyone asked Ghost Rider and Preacher questions. Not me. Told him I loved the film and why...and he was flabbergasted that anyone had seen it, let alone enjoyed it.😂
Grand finale: I'm a writer who moved back to his hometown in June...
You guys, it just hit me: I might be this movie's biggest fan...
I hoped you get to do a into the spider verse video soon enough Phelan Porteus😊
Every time there's a fake out ending to a video, I wish the creator would have the guts to legit end it, and just leave a black screen for the rest of the video length, lol.
Watch my octopus review.