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I only ground your content earlier this morning, but subscribed then and there. The only gripe I have (so far) is your insistence of calling dollars, "big ones". Let's face it, nowadays the U.S. dollar just ain't all that big!
Amen and hallelujah! Another NASCAR fan with some sense! NASCAR, and auto racing in general, has a discernable champion just by points earned during the season. Stick and ball sports play one-on-one games against opponents of varying ability, while in NASCAR, the teams square off against 37 other teams each week. That is a true test of the team's abilities. There's no need for "playoffs" or a "Chase for the Championship" as they used to call it, exceptto put more money in the NASCAR coffers. Develop a logical points system that awards winning at least as much as consistency and go with that. I like the way it's done in Formula 1: first through sixth place get 10-6-4-3-2-1 points and, from there on back, well, thanks for showing up!
@@corvairjim1 while it hasn't been like that in F1 for a long time, I get the idea. Only thing that changed was the ammount of points on offer, but yes... a points system like that for Nascar would maybe make me watch again. It's stupid to have a whole season, but only count the last 10 races for the championship. Let the points roll. Even if they keep the points system they have. Just get rid of the playoffs or whatever the hell they call them.
Speaking of, when is NASCAR going to fine themselves for "actions damaging to stock car racing" for this, and rigging cautions tob"tighten up the field"?
Exactly full balancing of the crank and rotating assembly gains more horsepower than it'll ever lose I'm sure the weight was just slightly under not enough to even affect the car's performance if it had been it would have shook itself to death and blown the motor they were obviously testing something😊
I wish you would elaborate a little bit more on how these things affect the cars performance it would make your program a lot more interesting to viewers like me and possibly some others too
It would be nice to know what the cheat/infraction/mod did to the car, it’s nice to know that a front ride height on one side was high or a window was not sealed properly but how? Why? What did it do? Awesome video tho, glued the whole time
the low ride height is probably aero related, creating less gap for air to get under the car, and in most cases was not an intentional attempt at cheating, but just cutting it to close to the limit.
That was great like to see one on HMS and during the Jeff Gordon and Jimmy Johnson racing era a lot had to be happening on those cars I'm pretty sure of it😂
It almost sounds like he doesn't care about championship but rather showing wins to his sponsors in victory lane.loaing points after doesn't matter as long as they show that sponsor in victory lane, yeah?
Man, if F1 give that much penalties for that kind of things, wouldn't be no more races. (ride heights and mesures in general are inspected on Saturday's end of the qualify, any problems detected the driver will either start in the back or from the pit lane. After race they will mesure the skip plate underneath the car and retrieve 2 litres of gas from the car, the punishment for failing any of those are disqualification from the race. After qualify the cars are in Parc fermé, the teams can only refuel the car, refill the water for the drivers and change tyres). I mean, they have as much scrutinizing as in Nascar, but the process seems more fluid.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 They were caught with an oversized cylinder. They were supported by the other teams there was no competitive advantage from it. What nascar missed is they were running left side tires on the right and that was the advantage. Jesus man. Do you actually generate this level of ignorance in your head? You repeat things you got from others and embellish them. I can back every word of this up. From the mouths of people who were there and involved. By the way this was a singular instance. Not “often” like you pontificate. Do you really want people to believe you? Use your head. How many instances can you site where a team was caught and went right back to the same cheat? They didn’t.
Why did you scream NOT? Are you that insecure that no-one will notice you? It’s not becoming for you to stamp your feet and yell. Authority complex is treatable with medication. Hope you can find help.
All the teams cheated. Not one car in the field was as per the rule book. Everybody who mattered bought their chassis from only one of two chassis builders who featured consistently in the top 10. A normal bare tube chassis cost $800. The ones from these two builders cost $10,000. And they had plenty of customers. JGR copied McClure. Robert Yates copied Runt Pittman engines. Petty used special lightweight hemi blocks from Chrysler. RCR tried to copy everybody. Jack Roush used illegal cams for 20 years. This is what made it so interesting. Now that everything is the same, it's just a procession and Nascar will die.
Are you gonna do this for all teams or are you just biased to jgr? A lot Of the being too low is parts failing during the race. Shocks are known to go bad. Engine issues was proven to be not as bad. Oil pan was the only big time cheating thing they did imo.
I don’t care who you are which team you’re on or who owns the car you drive if you win a race and the car fail post inspection for some kind of cheating the driver should have the win taken away from him and the team & owner. No excuses!!! If you’re a cheater make sure you don’t get caught or everyone tied to that team loses
I have been enjoying your videos but Im not sure you know what "actions detrimental to stock car racing" quite means. A part in fraction would not be considered so. That's more for an outward act of strategic race manipulation or something outside of a race that can make NASCAR look bad
@AloeLover bruh Joe Gibbs would probably put a jet powered engine in there camrys If they could I'm not saying they didn't cheat but in 2023 sure some cheating but it isn't like shoving masking tape on a front bumper under the rap cheating
And Joe Gibbs presents himself as an oh-so-pious Christian, going so far as to stand in the pits with a winning team's crew for a conspicuous prayer after a win. "Do not stand on the street corner to pray where others can see you, but rather do it in private. For the man who prays where others see him has received his reward on Earth, while he who prays in private has his reward awaiting him in Heaven". The guy owns four Cup teams and multiple Xfinity teams, all of which are famous for cheating, yet Gibbs tries to look like those wins are all by God's will instead of constantly breaking the rules! Remember "WWJD" from about a decade ago? I can assure you that Jesus wouldn't stoop to cheating to win a stock car race that, in the long run, is completely meaningless except as entertainment for the fans and lining the pockets of the car owners. Time to read (and HEED) your bible, Mr. Gibbs!
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Sure I’m drunk and enjoy nascar ain’t gonna remember this video
I only ground your content earlier this morning, but subscribed then and there. The only gripe I have (so far) is your insistence of calling dollars, "big ones". Let's face it, nowadays the U.S. dollar just ain't all that big!
Working on the 3-hour long Hendrick edition yet? Lol
You could make it an 8-part series tbh 😂
If they never pushed the gray area they wouldn't have any championships.
Hendrick Is always cheating 24/7 😂
Smokey Yunick would make for a month long video
As a Larson fan, I approve this message
Potential NASCAR Team Cheating Series?👀
This man can see the future
Yeah it's called the 20th century lol
As an HMS fan, if you ain't cheating, then you either ain't winning or you ain't trying hard enough
@@C-Rad95 as a fan of them too, I agree. They got caught cheating. Unfair for them to cheat earlier this year
If you're gonna cheat, don't be dumb enough to get caught- C-RadTV
“Them cheatin yota’s” was heard a lot back then lmao
and should be nowdays as well. Those words still hold truth in 2023...
Me every single week in 2017-2019
Imagine how pissed NASCAR is when every time it catches something, the know there's like 50 other things right in front of them they can't see.
I really hope you do this for all the teams (current and old ones)
"Man I miss the wild cards"
Well I miss having a true season long champion. The whole season. Not just the last 10 races.
Amen and hallelujah! Another NASCAR fan with some sense! NASCAR, and auto racing in general, has a discernable champion just by points earned during the season. Stick and ball sports play one-on-one games against opponents of varying ability, while in NASCAR, the teams square off against 37 other teams each week. That is a true test of the team's abilities. There's no need for "playoffs" or a "Chase for the Championship" as they used to call it, exceptto put more money in the NASCAR coffers. Develop a logical points system that awards winning at least as much as consistency and go with that. I like the way it's done in Formula 1: first through sixth place get 10-6-4-3-2-1 points and, from there on back, well, thanks for showing up!
@@corvairjim1 while it hasn't been like that in F1 for a long time, I get the idea. Only thing that changed was the ammount of points on offer, but yes... a points system like that for Nascar would maybe make me watch again. It's stupid to have a whole season, but only count the last 10 races for the championship. Let the points roll. Even if they keep the points system they have. Just get rid of the playoffs or whatever the hell they call them.
Speaking of, when is NASCAR going to fine themselves for "actions damaging to stock car racing" for this, and rigging cautions tob"tighten up the field"?
I'm not even a Gibbs fan, but if you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'!
It’s cheating if you get caught
I am stating the obvious, yes lol
If you ain’t cheating then you ain’t winning either. That goes for all motorsports all the way down to go Kart Racing.
That is an awful mindset. Fairplay should always be top priority.
@@Pabig93 that may be so, but there's a reason we have the rules we have today
can we get a top 100 hendrick cheats list?
That would take up to 5 to 10 years to complete that video😂
Excellent as always !!
Keep up the great work bud 🍻
Nice videos
Good job with the research and editing.
Couple laughs were appreciated too. 👍🏼
We need a MWR cheating vid next
That Kenseth one where they reversed pretty much everything, should of had that fine reduced, however Toyota most likely paid it I’m sure.
Looking forward to a Harvick documentary down the line
The Chase Elliott hms bias on this page is horrendous 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ bet the hms cheat video would be a lot longer than this one!
So what I took from this video is JGR cheated up Logano's cars and he still couldn't win lmao
I haven’t even watched the video yet and i already liked it
Have you made a Hendrick one?
The connecting rod thing would actually be detrimental. Having the engine out of balance like that is definitely not an advantage.
Exactly full balancing of the crank and rotating assembly gains more horsepower than it'll ever lose I'm sure the weight was just slightly under not enough to even affect the car's performance if it had been it would have shook itself to death and blown the motor they were obviously testing something😊
I wish you would elaborate a little bit more on how these things affect the cars performance it would make your program a lot more interesting to viewers like me and possibly some others too
We need a video for every team for there cheating just! like this video! Love It! Great Content!
It would be nice to know what the cheat/infraction/mod did to the car, it’s nice to know that a front ride height on one side was high or a window was not sealed properly but how? Why? What did it do?
Awesome video tho, glued the whole time
the low ride height is probably aero related, creating less gap for air to get under the car, and in most cases was not an intentional attempt at cheating, but just cutting it to close to the limit.
Do a whole series and top it with a smokey yunick video.
$200k for something the crew chief could have never known was pretty bs
2012 subway Jalapeño 250. I WAS THERE AND NEVER KNEW THIS.
Can you do everytime HMS were caught cheating?
And y'all say Hendrick is a cheating team
literally everybody cheats. Plus NASCAR fans are biasly stupid
If he made a hendrick cheating video it would be a DOCU SERIES 😂
Jeff Gordon got screwed quite a few times
Nascar must think it's the NFL with all these fines, I can bet those guys make alot less than guys in the NFL
That was great like to see one on HMS and during the Jeff Gordon and Jimmy Johnson racing era a lot had to be happening on those cars I'm pretty sure of it😂
Magnets
So they had it opposing force side right so the throttle couldnt be fully pressed
Thats fucking nasa level thinking
It almost sounds like he doesn't care about championship but rather showing wins to his sponsors in victory lane.loaing points after doesn't matter as long as they show that sponsor in victory lane, yeah?
Sponsors are happier with more wins! Championships are a bonus wins pay the bills now a days!!
That intro music makes it move a lil bit. Bit chubby and rubbery
Man, if F1 give that much penalties for that kind of things, wouldn't be no more races. (ride heights and mesures in general are inspected on Saturday's end of the qualify, any problems detected the driver will either start in the back or from the pit lane. After race they will mesure the skip plate underneath the car and retrieve 2 litres of gas from the car, the punishment for failing any of those are disqualification from the race. After qualify the cars are in Parc fermé, the teams can only refuel the car, refill the water for the drivers and change tyres). I mean, they have as much scrutinizing as in Nascar, but the process seems more fluid.
"The Coach's" team cheated?! A fine God-fearing team cheated?! Say it isn't so!
Petty Enterprises often cheated as well with oversized engines.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 They were caught with an oversized cylinder. They were supported by the other teams there was no competitive advantage from it. What nascar missed is they were running left side tires on the right and that was the advantage. Jesus man. Do you actually generate this level of ignorance in your head? You repeat things you got from others and embellish them. I can back every word of this up. From the mouths of people who were there and involved.
By the way this was a singular instance. Not “often” like you pontificate. Do you really want people to believe you? Use your head. How many instances can you site where a team was caught and went right back to the same cheat? They didn’t.
Love it
TEXAS TERRY with the Cowboys
More reason to bring back Iroc series
NASCAR Toyotas use the SBC2 engines because Toyota does NOT produce an OHV V8 engine.
Why did you scream NOT? Are you that insecure that no-one will notice you? It’s not becoming for you to stamp your feet and yell. Authority complex is treatable with medication. Hope you can find help.
Sounds like someone needs to fine and suspend NASCAR
Dem cheatin Yotas!! XD but in all seriousness if you're not pushing boundaries you're not trying to go faster. Most of the bigger teams do it
*Dem Cheetin Toyoders* 👊😡
Correction, 25 times joe hubs racing got CAUGHT cheating
Nascar is like an overbearing micro-managing manager.. Their rule book is like a bad case of OCD.....
Careful now you dont want grandpa joe taking down your video
All the teams cheated. Not one car in the field was as per the rule book. Everybody who mattered bought their chassis from only one of two chassis builders who featured consistently in the top 10. A normal bare tube chassis cost $800. The ones from these two builders cost $10,000. And they had plenty of customers. JGR copied McClure. Robert Yates copied Runt Pittman engines. Petty used special lightweight hemi blocks from Chrysler. RCR tried to copy everybody. Jack Roush used illegal cams for 20 years. This is what made it so interesting. Now that everything is the same, it's just a procession and Nascar will die.
Ok now do a video on Why NASCAR Fans Hate Denny Hamlin?
JGR cheating??, Only 25 times, what??, cheating from the Reverend of the garage Joe Gibbs ...say it so Joe😂😂
Do hendrick
Are you gonna do this for all teams or are you just biased to jgr? A lot
Of the being too low is parts failing during the race. Shocks are known to go bad. Engine issues was proven to be not as bad. Oil pan was the only big time cheating thing they did imo.
I don’t care who you are which team you’re on or who owns the car you drive if you win a race and the car fail post inspection for some kind of cheating the driver should have the win taken away from him and the team & owner. No excuses!!! If you’re a cheater make sure you don’t get caught or everyone tied to that team loses
Ah not got cheating: caught pushing
the grey area … into the not so grey area… Hall of Fame Racing was JGR’s lab rat … or white nice ?
So the Hendrick cheating video must be an hour?
25 times hahaha I’m calling shenanigans they only got caught 25 times they are still cheating every car every race
Hendrick racing is the best
Hell no Hendrick Mororsports doesnt cheap nor have they ever
HMS is the better cheaters, look at how many wins and championships they have thanks to Evernham and Knaus
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But Joe Gibbs is such a Christian!?! What a joke!
I have been enjoying your videos but Im not sure you know what "actions detrimental to stock car racing" quite means. A part in fraction would not be considered so. That's more for an outward act of strategic race manipulation or something outside of a race that can make NASCAR look bad
Nascar included that as part of the penalty.
If ya ain't cheating ya ain't trying
Mitch Smith, RCR/Earnhardt #3 didn't cheat.
@Sergeant Masson as a Dale Earnhardt fan I find your comment hilarious
Gibbs lost all credibility when he went to foreign cars in nascar
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Naw yall just haters. Aint no one cheat😂
Hendrick barely cheats
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n a h... this boy hasn't been paying attention lmao
@AloeLover bruh Joe Gibbs would probably put a jet powered engine in there camrys If they could I'm not saying they didn't cheat but in 2023 sure some cheating but it isn't like shoving masking tape on a front bumper under the rap cheating
even as an HMS fan, I find your comment nothing but baloney
Bro said they don't cheat 💀💀💀💀💀💀
And Joe Gibbs presents himself as an oh-so-pious Christian, going so far as to stand in the pits with a winning team's crew for a conspicuous prayer after a win. "Do not stand on the street corner to pray where others can see you, but rather do it in private. For the man who prays where others see him has received his reward on Earth, while he who prays in private has his reward awaiting him in Heaven". The guy owns four Cup teams and multiple Xfinity teams, all of which are famous for cheating, yet Gibbs tries to look like those wins are all by God's will instead of constantly breaking the rules! Remember "WWJD" from about a decade ago? I can assure you that Jesus wouldn't stoop to cheating to win a stock car race that, in the long run, is completely meaningless except as entertainment for the fans and lining the pockets of the car owners. Time to read (and HEED) your bible, Mr. Gibbs!
How about Rick Hendrick's what biblical advice would you say God has to him?
@joegibbsracing