Why Naruto VS Luffy VS Ichigo Isn’t Close
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For this vs battle i'm going to be taking the characters at their peak and giving them what i believe is the highest but most reasonable tier of power. It should already be given that these characters' baseline are planetary and ftl which I will elaborate more in the video as to why but, just know for people that believe that it's impossible for these characters to be in this tier, sorry go cry somewhere else, LOSER. Ichigo Kurosaki is a Human who is also a Substitute Shinigami. Ichigo is the son of Isshin and Masaki Kurosaki, and older brother of Karin and Yuzu. He is also married to Orihime Inoue and has a son named Kazui Kurosaki. Naruto Uzumaki is a shinobi of Konohagakure's Uzumaki clan. He became the jinchūriki of the Nine-Tails on the day of his birth a fate that caused him to be shunned by most of Konoha throughout his childhood. After joining Team Kakashi, Naruto worked hard to gain the village's acknowledgement all the while chasing his dream to become Hokage. In the following years, through many hardships and ordeals, he became a capable ninja, regarded as a hero both by the villagers, and soon after, the rest of the world, becoming known as the Hero of the Hidden Leaf. He soon proved to be one of the main factors in winning the Fourth Shinobi World War, leading him to achieve his dream and become the village's Seventh Hokage. Monkey D. Luffy, also known as "Straw Hat Luffy" and commonly as "Straw Hat", is the main protagonist of the manga and anime, One Piece. He is the founder and captain of the increasingly infamous and powerful Straw Hat Pirates, as well as the most powerful of its top fighters. He desires to find the legendary treasure left behind by the late Gol D. Roger and thereby become the Pirate King, which would help facilitate an unknown dream of his that he has told only to Shanks, his brothers and crew. He believes that being the Pirate King means having the most freedom in the world. Naruto is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Masashi Kishimoto. It tells the story of Naruto Uzumaki, a young ninja who seeks recognition from his peers and dreams of becoming the Hokage, the leader of his village. The story is told in two parts - the first set in Naruto's pre-teen years, and the second in his teens. The series is based on two one-shot manga by Kishimoto: Karakuri (1995), which earned Kishimoto an honorable mention in Shueisha's monthly Hop Step Award the following year, and Naruto (1997). One Piece is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Eiichiro Oda. It has been serialized in Shueisha's shōnen manga magazine Weekly Shōnen Jump since July 1997, with its individual chapters compiled into 104 tankōbon volumes as of November 2022. The story follows the adventures of Monkey D. Luffy, a boy whose body gained the properties of rubber after unintentionally eating a Devil Fruit. With his pirate crew, the Straw Hat Pirates, Luffy explores the Grand Line in search of the deceased King of the Pirates Gol D. Roger's ultimate treasure known as the "One Piece" in order to become the next King of the Pirates. Bleach / BLEACH is a Japanese anime television series based on Tite Kubo's original manga series of the same name. It was produced by Studio Pierrot and directed by Noriyuki Abe. The series aired on TV Tokyo from October 2004 to March 2012, spanning 366 episodes. The story follows the adventures of Ichigo Kurosaki after he obtains the powers of a Soul Reaper-a death personification similar to the Grim Reaper-from another Soul Reaper, Rukia Kuchiki. His newfound powers force him to take on the duties of defending humans from evil spirits and guiding departed souls to the afterlife.
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#naruto #onepiece #bleach - Zábava
Why ichigo there bruh that's cheating
I’m dying LMFAO
@@Tylearned is that a pin of shame or pin of funny
@@quadq3285 nah bro you made me laugh😭 this a pin of funny
@@Tylearned thanks bro you a real g
Unironically, Ichigo stands no chance against Naruto… after all, this is _Nonviable Scaling_ with the intent to scale these characters relatively. The fact that he skipped the whole Momoshiki scaling, even though, that’s where Naruto gets these huge viable calcs, is beyond crazy to me, though this might have been on purpose.
Yeah, this really isn't close, of course Ichigo would win. The stuff that Ichigo does in Bleach is absolutely crazy.
But, If they were to meet, they probably just tell each other about their adventures.
"Then my mom and dad jumped in to save me"
"Damn, my mom died saving me too"
"Y'all know who your mom's were?"
@@bonkpolice7602 Lmao
@@bonkpolice7602 accurate
@@bonkpolice7602yooo you got it with this comment.
wrrr
Reminder that Ichigo wasn’t even fighting with a real sword for most of the show, bro was actually just running through the entire power hierarchy of the show with a kendo stick while everyone else has katanas, and then when finally he gets his katana he literally swings it at the final boss of the series with the sheathe still on it like he’s never seen a sword before in his life, and he still cuts him in half. He’s a freak of nature.
Ikr
Facts 😂
wait what
@@MuddyAxolotl If you need me to elaborate on some parts, feel free to ask. The dude’s insane.
@@guardrailavender When did they reveal that since i dont want spoilers
I like how as heavily argued naruto vs luffy has been lately, pretty much every one agrees that ichigo is just too strong to even be consistently in the conversation 💀
Anyone who thinks naruto vs luffy is debatable hasn't read both Manga.
@@bingobango8168 It’s definitely debatable that’s why people debate it genius
@sausage5033 debatable if you haven't read both Manga maybe. Naruto is in another league than luffy.
@@bingobango8168 naruto literally doesn’t get stronger than baryon mode in the manga. Baryon was Naruto’s peak, and Luffy’s sun god abilities + speed combined with observation haki definitely take naruto.
@bertiechaos3349 lol 😆. If you've read both Manga it's apparent naruto no diffs luffy.
Ichigo can also coat his sword in a getsuga. There's also blut vene. There's his gran rey cero too. And his double getsuga attack.
Ichigo just all rounder man
Shinigami- speed and offence
Hollow- good regeneration+ offence
Quincy - offence and excellent defence
@@mufeezsyed2664 and with fullbring he can increase his speed and power even more
What the fuck are those words my man
Didnt yhwach take his quincy powers tho? I dont remember
@@bruhok1285 he took quincy and hollow powers but after defeating him it returned to ichigo
Gotta love that Ty ignored a bunch of scaling in Bleach, skipped straight to top and god tiers to apply the Senna calc and still concluded that Ichigo clowns with pure stats.
I hate watching a “who wins” video and then I see “okay guys so Ichigo in soul society was mountain level” like mf get to the point
@@Tylearned You can scale him higher than solar and he's easily MFTL at least
@@fergusonhoweroll4424 same with naruto tbh with momos feats, but ig ichigo still beats him,luffy however doesnt look so good with his feats
@@Tylearned i mean there wasa time Naruto's trump card was a big frog
@@shisei_EternalAtakea really really big frog tho
If I remember correctly Shunsui even gave Ichigo's squad a warning that he may not be able to come back from train with squad 0 as just his spiritual pressure would be enough to destroy the earth.... So just being alive is enough to end the world 🌎.
Not the earth.
The world of the living (i.e the material universe)
Actually there was another reason that ichigo might have been turned into next sk so yeah it was kinda dark
@@mufeezsyed2664yhwach is the soul king now as ichibei made him the linchpin of all reality and even his corspe is still holding the universe together
Thats not really true. They were planning on making him a butchered soul king
@@x_pkay it's kinda both ichigo was brimming with uncontrolled sp and he was learning how to control it and later yhwach even said it too and other is the possibility of him replacing sk
Another thing is that in Horn of Salvation, Ichigo is capable of using all of the 4 races (Quincy, Hollow, Fullbring, Soul Reaper) abilities simultaneously. Meaning he can defend with Quincy (Blut Vene) Attack with Shinigami powers, or use Hollow...hierro as defense and attack with Blut Arterie. Not to mention advanced observation powers like Pesquisa and High Regen due to being a hollow!
yeah and since he using their peaks ichigo still got quincy powers
When did this happen ?
I'm pretty sure I saw the whole of first season and didn't come across any of the things u said so
Pls educate me
@@rameshv445prob cause it's not in the first season, is major spoilers for you, and why are you even watching this vid?
@@rameshv445man came here on an endgame powerscaling video without even skimming through the rest of the series
serious why tf you here get out and educate yourself by watching the rest of the series
Love how ichigo point is his crushing power and potential
And he is Very good at it
I don’t, it’s not really interesting when a character is just naturally monstrously strong for no reason, compared to having a backstory like Luffy and Naruto where they trained and got stronger over time
@@sausage5033 nigga....dhats becauz he is an experiment by the villan of that anime
@@sausage5033
Bruh you didnt really read bleach then
Theres a whole lore about his powers and he does train for it
no bro jus has insane plot armour ☠
@corybrooks9557 BRAINDEAD LMFAOOAOA
Kind of a shame that Luffy isn’t up there in AP compared to the other two, but at least he has really good speed scaling, especially since the “gear 4 being three times faster than gear 2” is a lowball that still gets him to those mftl speeds.
I don't think people will like if luffy become planetery or star in the end of the manga like it will be a little weird
@Ayoub Ali the thing about one piece is that it is a story focused far more on the plot than pwerscaling, ik it sounds weird like aren't stories supposed to be that, but their is a reason I would pick one piece over rimuru and thr anime anos is from they are stronger than him but one piece is about the story its one of the greatest stories of all time while these do not compare to it not even in the slightest
Luffy stomps naruto with gear 5. Idk where y’all are getting these planetary and solar system feats from when it comes to naruto. Y’all either watched a different anime or went of the mis translations in the data books.
@@tragiic333 kishimotos statement that momoshiki can easily destroy the sun in Naruto and Naruto dog walks him by himself so he goes to high star to solar system,ichigo can go uni+ - multiversal based on gremmys creation of several galaxies in his fight with kenpachi and ichigo just upscales from there.
@@rexr9781 The statement you're referring to says nothing about destroying a star, it says he will eat up all the stars chakra, which does not equate to or translate to star level in attack potency.
Here's a small bit of info that also shows why Ichigo is the strongest of the three. Take a look at their timelines and training arcs. Naruto, went for years in canon and still got power-ups from a godly being. Luffy, trained for 2 years to master haki and is only recently learning what his DF can really do. Ichigo, was only an active Shinigami for a little over ONE YEAR. Ichigo's growth is absolutely insane and if he trained for the same amount of time as the other, then there's no fight.
And there's still people out there thinking muzan solo ichigo 💀💀💀💀
@@jamers8965 What Muzan 🤣🤣 bro you really got me 🤣🤣
Thats exactly y i think Ichigo when hes a father is the strongest mf ever in bleach
Ihcigo technically did train in the Dangai about 3 months Dangai (roughly an hour real time) and even though his powers were taken away/reversed he did get experience from it (just not sure if you counted that or not)
@@SirNoticules Don't worry, I did.
The fact that people don't think ichigo is worrying 💀
Ichigo is worrying?
@@acanthita2978 sorry I ment winning my English isn't too good
it's not people like to hop on the bandwagon on bleach being stronger which is absolutely not true
@@no1factsspeaker321 ichigo is low multiversal and Naruto is about moon level💀💀
@@HatoV1 Yt deleted my msg but valadez.lavi, come VC me ichigo is capping at multi planet and Naruto is way above that, this sorry outdated scaling is actually concerning for the CV comm
The thing is that you can say that Ichigo is being Lowballed here.
If we use Ywhachs statement of Shikai Ichigo is = to Mugetsu Ichigo. Then that implies that Mugetsu Ichigo. Who is at worst ten times stronger then Dangai Ichigo. Which is stronger then Butterfly Aizen. Butterfly Aizen is vastly stronger then Yama in Bankai by an unknown amount.
You can make the argument that Ichigo can go above Solar system+ levels when he's hitting both Bankai and HOS. Which the HOS amps him roughly by how much Vasto Lorde amped him. Which is at the lowest you could say is 100x(Likely higher due to Res Ulqi FODDERIZING Hollow Mask Ichigo).
Ichigo is HIM.
Ichigo isn't him tbh I've seen better feats than that not hating or anything Bleach is my Top 4 fs but characters in like DAL or RoR or DB have much better feats
But against characters like them in the video ichigo's spiritual pressure fodderizes them cuz too much reiatsu ☠️
He aint beating goku
@@mm-sy8vv frfr
@@e.ndurance oh yeah and th characters in the scp make db characters look like complete fodder so i guess Goku isn't him! Like what is this logic
Solar system level....you powerscalers really love to pull shit out of your ass. We haven't even seen a single bleach character manage to destroy the earth yet let alone a solar system
Makes sense that ichigo is over naruto and naruto is over luffy this is a good video.
W opinion
Naruto won't easily beat him tho. luffy has g5, because remember, his bajarang gun attack is the size of an entire island + infusedd with color of supreme king, he literally launched kaido to the bottom of the earth with the attack.
And also,gear 5 allows him to change his surroundings to rubber, so what's stopping luffy from turning Naruto''s attacks into rubber, even if they did hit him, he can't tank em by turning his body into rubber
@@RandomAJ16 Right now I think naruto wins with not too much trouble maybe mid diff but by the end of op it will be extreme diff or luffy wins
@@cowmanmilk8761 besides what happens if naruto uses multi shadow clone jutsu and luffy is fighting thousands of narutos who are nearly as strong as him because naruto can do that double rinnegan madara was strong enough to block sage of six paths naruto's attacks and the limbo are equal to madara power and naruto made clones strong enough to fight limbo who are equal to madara himself and naruto can destroy luffy on a cellular level with his rasenshuriken.
@@RandomAJ16 Teen Naruto so6p would beat Luffy with no negs diff
I've always hated comparing characters' power from different animes because every anime is power scaled differently to match the plot. Like it doesnt make sense for pirates on earth in one piece to be able to easily destroy planets like in dragon ball. Like sure its fun talking about it, but what's the point of people getting toxic over it.
I know right this guy is a complete idiot if he thinks that Luffy is planetary. He doesn't have a power that can destroy planets compared to something like Blackbeard who has white beards quake quake fruit.
People will argue their bias and head cannon to eternity because in many minds their opinion = universal fact. But i agree with you, I hate opinion debates as there is nothing but blatant bias mostly involved except in certain cases like this video that was fairly articulated in comparing the three.
The thing is, the Bleach cosmology can be scaled to 6D very easily via the gargantua. Ywach was destroying all of the cosmology at once and Ichigo killed him twice, in bleach you have to be at least relative to a character to even hurt them. So Ichigo can be scaled to at least low multi
W scaling
full power aizen was 4d and dangai was said to be another dimension higher than him so danger ichigo is 5d
@@JamariusPharrel and Mugetsu transcends that so 6D
@@JamariusPharrel yes and max what he could destroy is small mountain yes he is multi lol
People that bring up that Yhwach feat simply don’t know what they’re talking about tbh
I love how unbiased this is. I have only watched Naruto, but I am happy to accept the fact that ichigo slaps. I just hate it when people say things like “Luffy destroys Naruto’s verse” and stuff like that because you just tell that it is biased.
luffy will eventually be able to solo naruto verse jussayin
@@mikeoxlong3604 cringe
@@mikeoxlong3604 saitama solos the verse
@@mikeoxlong3604 unlikely chances are Naruto will go on to be the next so6p and Boruto will inevitably be able to solo op verse
@@mikeoxlong3604 ❌
ichigo just on a different level, its not fair for luffy or naruto, hell even naruto vs luffy is not fair for luffy, i think luffy should just stay in his verse 1v1s until he gets more powerful? ( also i dont think luffy is relative to kaido, cuz he literally got knocked 3 or 4 times and had a full break between each of them and kaido didnt even get to breath for a second).
I mean, Luffy ain't that weak, he's around the country-continental level. It's just that Naruto and Ichigo are a lot stronger than him.
Naruto VS luffy is a very close match up saying it's not fair is shows u prolly only looking at it from 1 side of the battle
@@Packirup1234 bruh, base momo can basically destroy stars, a single gudodama of kaguya can basically destroy the world itself
OK then sure
@@creation5389 Momoshiki doesn't destroy stars through AP. He draining the planet and everyone on it of its chakra
I gotta say, im happy people are finally giving ichigo his flowers. The amount of time people downplayed ichi in the past is crazy.
Bs. This guy is overrated asf. Planetary lvl chump fr
@@Johnny24-dl3ig No, Ichigo is low complex multiversal, 6D, the others are not even touching that tier.
Ichigo solos both their verses with one arm behind his back and both eyes closed 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
bro solos them in shikai base
@@user-bf4rq8kw8l did you even watch the Video 😭
@@user-bf4rq8kw8l bro is Naruto 10x faster than speed of light? No he’s not sure he’s strong but ichigo attacks can break space and time and Naruto does not have infinite chakra he doesn’t even have the most chakra in his own verse Ichigo can’t die to Naruto bc he can vasto lorde and then a gran ray cero which is faster than light can one shot him
Lol wait did u first watch Naruto u dumb @ss Naruto have the more chakra then any other character in Naruto verse lol when he uses kcm there it's self he reach god level like he can use sage of 6 path powers and u bleach kids even know about truth seeking orb? Lol it movies faster then light that ichigo can't even see them, I saw bleach 1 year back and u know wat it as the worst story in top anime some people say Naruto have so many fillers but damn bleach main stories are inserted between fillers 😂 ok leave that, so ya I'm not saying ichigo is waste I'm trying to say that Naruto is aren't that Power less like this mid piece kids telling Naruto is weak lol they are growing kids so leave them.@@manty59
I generally don’t like to go for verse equalization anymore, since even if abilities can be classified as “spiritual” or the like there can be significant differences in how those systems work (ie. Chakra having a strict network that’s tied to the character’s biology, vs Haki not having any ties to the characters biology), or even within one story there can be multiple power systems at play (ie, mana and ki in Black Clover, or Spiritual Vs Demon vs Sacred energy in Yu Yu Hakusho).
Tbh its not as complicated as it seems ur deepin it
I mean it kinda is luffy doesn't have Chakra
@@JG-gd2fu when u get into the specifics u make it hella complicated thats why verse equalization is a thing. Pretend these abilities jus counteract each other its not deep
What is the point of comparing when you gonna say verse equalization. That’s corny as hell.
@gloryboy it is tho lmao giving luffy chakra makes him vulnerable to things he wouldn't be other wise.
If Ichigo were to train like a saiyan he'll grow to unprecedented levels
He's like gohan just chill with his life untill enemy strikes
@@mufeezsyed2664 To be fair, compared to some of the characters in other series, Ichigo's often feel very lethal and dangerous.
@@mufeezsyed2664 Ichigo's treatment is what Gohan deserves tbh
ichigo could hang with some dragon ball people and could def get on that level with years of training esp since he just always gets stronger. but if you know about the hell arc you might already say hes on that level. but im not going to spoil that
Now that I think about it, Ichigo and Gohan are so similar:
-Both have a full blood different race dad with superpowers
-Both are just chillin and will only attack when their loved ones are being threatened/attack
-Both have immense potential
-Both of them are actually calm and is smart and not goofy and stuff like other characters like Luffy
Reminder as well that neither luffy nor Naruto have the antibodies necessary to combat hollow reiatsu, meaning all of ichigo’s hollow abilities are literally toxic to them.
I absolutely love this. I mean, I'm a die hard Naruto fan but it's cool to see Ichigo finally getting the respect he deserves. I totally agree that he would straight up blitz them both
This is probably the most truthful scaling I’ve seen
Naruto max planetary, luffy max lil island and its most truthful scaling?Hes like "momoshiki star lvl(nope, not that momoshiki who was beaten by naruto) so naruto who beat him, star lvl too(nope)".Also "whitebeard is planetary(nope), but the planet in op is like lil star(nope), and luffy who became yonko is planetary too(nope)".
@@Badmann011 ayo guys I spotted the One piece fan boy
@@theonewhoasked1418 how do you know?but you right, i like op more than other mangas
@@Badmann011 clearly you weren’t watching the video he said they were all at least planetary and it’s not to say Luffy is weak because him and Naruto are very close but Naruto honestly beats luffy in a lot of importance categories
Ex: stamina and speed
@@abubakarjalloh8665 Ik that luffy weaker than naruto.Luffy is the lil island lvl, and not close to lightspeed, how he can be stronger than naruto, who is planetary, and close so lightspeed?
Bro kicking the hornets' nest at full force
And spraying nectar all over the fandoms
Yamma almost destroying soul society while trying not to
I appreciate this video so much, like clearly your more of a one piece fan, but you're realistic on the outcome. This is something you don't see from Naruto fan who are utter convinced his universal even though this has been debunk by so many youtubers.
My guy I don't even know qho your watching but someone who still thinks and scales Naruto to uni is definitely baiting.
one thing i never understood is why everyone that compares people that are near whitebeard's level say they are planetary, whitebeard's fruit is the most destructive, and that's why he's capable of destroying the world, people like luffy, kaido, big mom, they all have demonstrated a level comparable to whitebeard's, we could say some of them could even defeat him, but that doesn't mean they are as destructive as him
The same can be said for Naruto
Rememebers Naruto only gets his statements and feats based of the people he has beaten or scale too
Same with ichigo
@@Packirup1234 the thing is that ichigo some times shows how destructive he can be, for example when he was fighting ginjo (idk if its writed like that) he trow a getsuga to the sky and cleared it, when he was going to fight aizen with a Swing of his sword he destroyed part of a mountain etc luffy is kinda Hard to say how strong he is since we always see People with a lot of destructive power fighting with him
@@ahuehue1690...... Oooooooook?
@@ahuehue1690the thing is he scales to uni but his feats are island level then assuming that Las no he's is the size of a country etc gets to country+.
The dc feats aren't even remotely close to the statements and ap feats.
@@Packirup1234 But you forgot that Whitebeard could concentrate all power of his devil fruit into sphere around his hand an hit opponent with it (it literally converts his DC into AP) and guys like Roger and Akainu coul equally clash with Whitebeard who concentrates all power of his devil fruit in one punch.
Tbh I don’t think ichigo loses even if he doesn’t attack any of them and they don’t disappear from his reiatsu. He has blut vene and I doubt Naruto or Luffy have the means to penetrate this barrier
Ryou and truth seeking orbs are dura Meg attacks so…
@@Bang_2393 in bleach reiatsu also protects from dura neg.
(Basically most types of dura neg don't work on bleach characters)
Basically if luffy and naruto even get close enough to land a hit they get sent to the backrooms.
I just wanna note that these three are more likely to hang out than they are to actually fight to the death.
ACTUALLY, lets take into account personally factors, friends/ enemies and compare them First Naruto and Luffy, For luffy we got enemies to keep it simple, Dofy, kaido, Akainu, Blackbeard Crocodile, Naruto infact relates to a lot of these characters running a village /town/something Naruto will do anything to get to his goal like this characters, luffy cares about the journey now lets take into account personality factors, luffy pure of heart is not distracted by things, obviously the same can NOT be said about naruto getting off on this bad of a foot already is not good, some can say the argument of them liking food a lot is a personality similarity but everyone likes food, ichigo and naruto get fed up easily with people who waste time like luffy now ichigo and naruto both have similiar personalities but lets not forget that naruto is a busy man who cant give much attention to these people anyways luffy and ichiugo are mostly the center of attention and when not given can get frustrated/upset please check your facts
@@crocen9720 counter argument
Food.
@@folpaly i addressed this in my argument ”everyone likes food” also it’s satire monkey brain
@@folpaly yes
@@folpaly true all of them were spiritual son/successor of goku which is not only a saiyan a food eater but also a gluton
I would say soul society is universal, Infinite in size would be similar to our ever expanding universe also his speed is infinite: Cfyow novel (canon) has Kenny stopping time by moving and Yhwach can move across 5 different realms in a blink
Theres no proof ss is universal
No
@@obai1593 There is solid grounding, Hell was a stated multiverse in the canon one shot from Kubo and it is ever expanding like our universe also Hueco Mundo had Los Noches on it’s surface which had a star inside meaning it would be bigger than a star
@@justsomeguythatmanipulated1069 Damn i just realized that the moon exists in huecco mundo but where does it get its sunlight if it says that huecco mundo is always night?
@@obai1593 Los Noches has a star inside of it, Hueco mundo is the landmass Los Noches is just the espada’s base
As much as I like one piece
One piece consistently takes way longer to reach feats that the other 2 series reached much earlier
@Sprex_x 1 kurama isnt his biggest power up its actually nothing compared to hagoromo chackra
2 we are talking about who wins in their prime
Actually Luffy had way earlier bigger feats than Naruto
Many people don't understand how fast characters in Bleach are actually moving
ichigo is low multiversal after cour 2 and he has a speed feat thats over 9000x the speed of light
Yeah people are literally ignoring his irasuzando feats ( where he technically passed the cadidateship for next sk by literally tanking the gravity of whole verse) and then comes senjumaru😂 yeah ichigo low balled is uni.
Are Kaguya's dimensions actual dimensions, or are they more like pocket dimensions? Depending on how they work, absorbing them doesn't mean anything through scale. All that matters is the strength of the dimensional barrier creating that realm.
For example, could Ichigo do what he did with Yukio's dimensions to Kaguya's? It would be funny if Kaguya only scales to Yukio 🤣
We have no evidence for half of narutos feat same goes for this since it was never explained how big are these dimensions and i think it's pocket since you need abundant chakra to create multiple realms but 10tails only absorbed the earth chakra so kaguya is highballed planetary
Also yukio dimensions are smaller tho ichigo can probably break through since it was the suppressed ichigo who achieved that feat then imagine the new ichigo.
Doesn’t matter momoshiki absorbed at least 16 earths worth of chakra and ate their chakra fruit. If he wasn’t solar system level when kcm2 naruto is low planetary it would just be dumb naruto got like 5 amps after kcm2 to put him to momoshiki’s level and also he absorbed that chakra before he fused with kinshiki which made him about twice as strong
@@mufeezsyed2664 Kaguya "highballed" planetary lol...
@@xlRyusei her strongest feat is planetary
@@THAT_GUY119 momoshiki is so strong that he was getting bodied by the kage and had to dope up on pills to over power them.
Naruto and Luffy would probably be instant friends, because they both love food and have a bubbly personality. Ichigo would probably just smile and let them do the shenanigans and be the silent friend. These 3 would fight initially, but become friends fast.
Also Ichigo slaps, but One Piece is still the GOAT!
Ayo that thumbnail goes hard ngl.
All I got to say is I love you and with the charmander comment at the end just gained a sub and a like🤧💙
I was pretty much expecting Ichigo to win.
Next video: Why Sasuke vs Uryu vs Zoro isn’t close
Uryū slaps both, Sasuke beats Zoro.
@@vehanhewalder6831 whats uryus feats other than uno reverse. I genuinely think sasuke wins
@@obai1593 he’s comparable to ichigo and jugram
@@7xspeedflash864 im asking for feats
When you realize sasuke vs uryu is just one person fighting and talking to himself (va joke)
Best video I have seen on this topic
We could all agree that the thumbnail is fire asf
One thing to note: one piece throughout its history has been clearly shown to have nothing to do with actual power scaling, its about the plot of how these characters interact that oda focuses on
yea exactly people shouldn't put it in power scaling battles because op isn't about that
dude... it meant always about that!!! we already has no good zoro/sanji fight since 10 years ago!!! (maybe now with king and queen.... lol but peoples wwaited 10 fucking years for it!!!)
Ichigo solos both verses
Bleachtard. Deamon packs bleach
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i really want to catch up to bleach i am at episode 141 (i skipped bleach scaling due to spoilers) but i have too much things to do irl😔😔
Whitebeard could destroy the world because of the fact that his power can literally cause quakes all across it.
Even scaling Luffy to Whitebeard strength-wise, this doesn't prove in any way that he can shake the earth.
That's like saying that because one guy can go invisible and another guy is sneaker than him, that makes him also invisible. Big difference between strength and abilities, so show the proof that Luffy is able to destroy the world
Yeah pretty much sums up their half baked scaling. I think people mix up destructive capacity and attack power too often for one piece.
Even if wb could destroy the world, I doubt it’s via vaporization in which naruto could do.
But Luffy actually Shaked the One Piece earth which is half the size of our sun by Using the Bajrang Gun on Kaido he punched him so hard into the Ground that created an earthquake that could be felt very far away from Wano Kuni, and we aren't talking about a direct punch that would be even stronger I mean by simple anime logic we know that Kaido not even was smashed into the ground with full power since he resisted before getting knocked out
Luffy could shake the earth in Gear 5 by turning it into rubber and jumping on it lol
it's honestly crazy since bleach in the animated TYBW cour 2 finale was upscaled, since apparently now Squad Zero are around 2-C which is low multiverse level due to a new line being added.
thanks pal, finally someone who scales Ichigo at his right power. A respectable one piece fan who says that. (until the last 2 seconds were he became this toxic one piece stand though XD)
I would’ve did Luffy vs Naruto vs Ichigo when they’re most relative to each other in said series
In age or in power?
Made me sub after dis😮💨💯
thank you for spittin!
1:02, it’s like they forgot you have another channel where you made what ifs primarily about Naruto. 😂😂😂😂😂
Multiversal Luffy... Didn't know that anyone actually believed that.
Also based naruto scaling
I thought he was because of the one piece movie
based how?
@@official_ny_kings7674 It's reasonable to say that he scales off of the dimensions the otsutski create which contain atleast a star of not multiple.
@@matthewadams1674 no
@@matthewadams1674 creating something isn't a scale of ap bl
that last sentence said it all 🔥:fire
30 seconds into the video and I subscribed
Huge W🔥
No lie sometimes powerscaling goes over my head 😂 I love it tho.
Finally someone who understands how luffys gear 5 abilities work 😊
Still the weakest
@@Mr.Magic-frog tbf kishimoto said that gear 5 luffy is stronger than baryon mode naruto
@@thelostsoul208 No, he didn't.
@@thelostsoul208 source? I hate shit like this cause no he didn’t and you most likely heard somewhere randomly
@@Mr.Magic-frog Naruto isnt Solar lol, that shit got debunked a while ago
You have gained a new subscriber...
I could not agree with you more in every aspect of this vid. Happy to see someone not overhype and correctly scale the big 3
he over hyped alot
The only thing he got wrong was naruto due to mistranslation. Momoshiki absorbed a planet not a star. It said “world” not “star” so naruto would be around high planetary like luffy.
@@Sammy123ABC This channel is biased towards One Piece because he is a One Piecetard he always overhypes OP and downplays Naruto.
@@Sammy123ABC Momoshiki can travel through space at crazy speeds. If we count big One Piece planet then we also have to count Naruto sun and solar system feats.
@@theflamingeagle572 what solar system feats? We know momoshiki can move fast but I was debunking the misconception that he is star level or even solar system level. Naruto in so6p was light speed, it’s a given that momoshiki is too. The one piece planet size doesn’t really have anything to do with this. And I’m not picking and choosing what is real and isn’t. I’m just saying what’s real. The op planet is really that size so that’s why I said that. Momoshiki isn’t star or split system level because he has nothing to say that he is other than mistranslations that has been debunked so long ago that I’m surprised people still think he’s star level.
Including Ichigo ruined the video… hear me out the only ones saying Naruto is close are in denial. We already know Ichigo is absolutely broken via amps and Blunt Vene being able stop a killing blow from Jhwach without him even consciously using it (which makes it WAAAYYY stronger).
I would love to see aDEEP dive into a Naruto VS Luffy fight (with a 5 clone limit for Naruto) and hear your thoughts on that.
Awesome video, also fyi Luffy doesn't necessarily have toon force but odas versions of it which gives luffy reality warping so he truly is broken, I also don't know much about bleach so this was a great source of info
"BAhH Haki"
Dawg's commentary is goated!
Glad you’re the first person to actually scale luffy right without downplaying him like everyone else
This was the worst and most wank scale ever for Luffy. Half the evidence was stupid and involved huge leaps in logic. There’s a reason why nobody scales Luffy like this or has gotten as ridiculous numbers as this guy.
Scaling luffy at star level it's definitely a hyperbole overwanked to make sure that optards would be glad to see luffy reach the cosmic power of Naruto and Ichigo 💀
@@Mr.Magic-frog i mean the one piece earth is 3X times bigger than our earth n naruto earth so all his punches that be massive is continental level den if yu see what he did to kaido dat punch was moon level so ya
@@Mr.Magic-frog one piece characters are so weak it’s sad
@@Universeblaster_ it's more than 3 times the OP planet is half the size of our sun
Bro got his ZAZA game on lock💀💀
So a friend of mine just started arguing about some stuff [Kakashi vs Gojo] but if lead to an even bigger argument which is Maki vs Rock Lee and if you can, would you mind doing a video about it
Short answer dms kakashi wins and other kakshi can't and rock lee beats the shot out of maki
DMS kakashi rips a hole through infinity since it transcends dimensions. Easiest way to explain it is that if infinity only exists in its own dimension and is incapable of expanding its influence to other dimensions then Kamui is able to bypass it by ripping a hole through that very same dimension, reaching gojo.
Rock Lee no diffs anime maki and mid diffs manga maki
The fact you already got noodles trying to make debunks on this really means something. 👍
Kishimoto is really held his character creation to be overpowered even he nerfed some of them. Because the story or topic is about ninja. Plus, still so many plotholes.
"Kaido was tanking hits due to being built different" That caught me off guard.
Bruh, that muscleman impression was godly
I have been trying to tell everyone that watches anime what you just said the entire video thank you
I've heard some people scale ichigo to uni+ level as he destroyed a layer of hell in his vasto lorde form and it's supposedly equal to a universe in size, I'm not sure myself so someone correct me if I'm wrong lmao
Can't use the hell scaling as the hell verse movie isn't canon
He's still uni tho
@@He-who-wakes its is and the rebellion arc is canon to
@@deathdealing8859 it's not tho
@@He-who-wakes the rebellion arc is shown in the anime kubo said the anime is how wanted to the manga and not in one of the novels the mention ichigoats rampage in hell
Ichigo is literally low multiversel it’s not even fair
Exactly
I just subbed 😂😭
That muscle man impression made bro 🤣😭
Doesn’t baryon mode only last 10 minutes?
I feel like people don't give 5th gear Luffy nearly enough credit.
Gear 5 sucks
We basically know close to nothing about it and it's after effects are a little too much.
Yea ok buddy. 99% of Luffy meatriders say gear 5 solos Goku cuz of his goofy imagination, totally not enough credit 💀💀💀
@@Tylearned explain how 😂
@@siddyplayz1738 Only a handful of One Piece fans say that. And tbh it really depends how you do powerscaling because if you just combine haki and ki for simplicity sake like the guy in the video than Goku wins neg diff. But if you don't combine the two power sources than Luffy wins mid diff because Goku wouldn't be able to hurt him so he'll just have to doge until he runs out of stamina and Luffy can be in 5th gear pretty much as long as he wants. Of course this is assuming he HAS to fight Luffy and cannot run away. But overall Goku wins because combining sources of power is pretty much the principal at this point.
Nice calculations
Luffy doesn't scales to kaido, even in gear 5 Kaido was holding on, and we have to remember that kaido was already weakened by literally everyone, but kaido full power vs luffy full power, Kaido wins
no mater how you scale it Aizen was stated to be dimensionally above yamamoto in his chryslys state and no matter how you put it it means he was VASTLY greater than Planetary Solar system and or universe in that form and monster Aizen and mugetsu was wayyy greater than that and then in TYBW they get EVEN more powerful than that . theres too much evidence to support yhwach and soul king being multiversal or 5d 6d and Aizen is directly compared to Yhwach on more than one occasion you cant ignore what the author clearly intends to illustrate just because you think "sekei" means planet even tho it means realm planet and or universe it does not mean it means just planet and only planet how much more do you want kubo to spell it out for you and lets not get into the fact that bleach is 1:1 ratio with buddhism mythology from names to reals themselves which also states to have infinite spaces in the realms and hyperspaces
Crazy to me that anyone could think Naruto is above solar💀
He is lol
its even crazier if anyone can scale luffy to solar
@@DoubleAAce anything above planetary for luffy is outrageous 💀
@@hahimthetrashman9142frrrrr
Luffy is island level and thats it
One piece fans crazy
@@prxnceanime6335 than Naruto Stick level cuz he can't punch through Rock
Perfect ending to a video 😂👍
I will point out that this was a pretty good video and I agree with a lot of points but one point that I don't agree with is the is the truth-seeking orbs don't destroy souls, just freed them. The main effect of this orbs is nullifying ninjutsu, NOT erasing everything they touch. There was a reason why Sage Mode was a good counter for them, it wasn't the fact that it wasn't touching the orb it was just the fact that it wasn't a ninjutsu. that's all I wanted to say keep the vids going. 2:20
They erase everything that doesn't have sage energy....just like how no body can see or sense limbo even tho you have sage mode but you can sense or see it if u have six paths chakra....tso erase everything and that's why Minato's hands were erased even when he ascended
@@farunadaniel728 yes but no, I had to do a little bit more research about the truth-seeking orbs. You see you are right that they erase but not in the sense that they are like a Dragon Ball super hakai. It is more of a kin to the fact that they are erasing the physical or natural form of anything they touch that also goes for the chakra that in the ninjutsu people use, like the ones to summon people from the dead. All the summoning jutsu is doing is putting their souls inside of a vessel so they can use it like if they were actually alive. So with the situation with Minato' s arms, the reason that he lost his arms was the fact that his arms were released before the rest of his body was not because the truth-seeking orbs completely destroy the soul of his arms but because they completely erase the jutsu that his arms were in.
@@DKillerGaMr I dont think that's true.....the truth seeking orbs are used for creation and destruction as its what kaguya uses to create dimension....it didn't erase the jutsu it erased the soul itself and that's why even in edo tensei they can't recover....in a sense they're like hakai but with a condition that only six paths characters can resist and use it....its a combination of all the elements with ying and yang release....and sarutobi compared it to ohnoki's particle dismantling justu with the only difference is that particle style reduces you to atoms while truth seeking orbs completely erase whatever it touches
@@farunadaniel728 you're not wrong in pointing this out it's just the problem is that they never confirmed or denied that the truth-seeking orbs can do, is more up to speculation because even though we see him missing his arms is never confirmed that his soul arms were erased only stopping him from regenerating. In case boruto has confirmed that his arms are actually gone in the afterlife I am inclined to believe there's not. I'm not trying to downplay the truth-seeking orbs I'm just not so sure if I can believe that can erase souls because it only really states that they can atomize things. But if you can point me in the direction where they pacifically state that it removes the soul entirely like the Sol reach jutsu or sealing jutsu please link.
And also to add something else to ichigo in the CFYOW that is stated to be a canon arc (idk if i have to say that it is spoilers since this is the novel that is after TWBW arc and it is not a manga yet or will never be, so yeh spoiler for anime/manga???) ichibe/the monk or whatever u call him himself states that ichigo is equal or even stronger than the soul king himself creator of all the worlds in bleach (hueco mundo, souls society and human world) so this info could hypotetically make ichigo maybe universal lvl? I'm not stating it, it is more like a question since in both soul society and human world have a day/night (hueco mundo has only night so i will exclude it) cycle so theyre both have like solar sistems and ichigo is supposed to be equal or stronger than a being who created these worlds soo basically this vs is even less than an argument after this (i'm not an expert on this "planetarial, universal, multiversal power" stuff, so don't hate me if i maybe miss-interpreted the "universal" power scaling on ichigo),UPDATE: right now i've read some info bout soul king and too lazy to reertie everything but yeah soul king kinda unknown but he LITTERALLY has EVERY SINGLE ABILITY IN BLEACH and holy cow there were like 10 paragraphs with only his moves alone i ignored the part where they're explained bc it was longer than bible itself and teah soul king universal lvl+ potentially so my statements are right if u got till here congrats here is a cookie 🍪
You can scale Naruto higher based of how you view him beating Toneri in base. I don’t think it’s enough to give him the victory but it’s enough to take into consideration.
Baryon mode is also based of nuclear fusion which literally powers stars so I see it as a star level amp, but it’s debatable.
Naruto lost to toneri multiple times dont forget that
@@RealNotScout So did Goku to Jiren but you would scale him above Jiren now yes?
@BitViper i mean yea naruto got stronger then him but i personally think toneri might be a little stronger (in the movie)
He infused all of kurama’s chakra into that punch so it technically isn’t base
And toneri isn’t even moon level cuz the Naruto moon is hollow so it can’t count as a moon
dude is always spitting facts
Bro said let me cook and the a cooking pan ad hit me
really havent seen enough of what gear 5 luffy can do. already basically a reality warper. the scale is the big factor. can he say, reach his arms out into space and drag one of the moons down on the planet?
what kinda crazy shit are we going to see from it. but fair enough from what weve seen of it.
devil fruits still work with stamina... so nope...
I completely agree but if we were to imply that naruto used baryon mode, that mode would only last 5 minutes and once it’s up and the 9 tails disappears it’s over.
Bruuuh I’m glad someone else said it cause everytime a Naruto fan says Naruto beats ichigo or luffy they fall back on that form but ignore the fact that it has a time limit and only worked so well on isshiki because he had a faulty body along with a limited time to get a new one 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ then Naruto lost one of his best skills/power ups the 9 tails. It’s not gonna be useful if it’s a drawn out battle
@@saucekidjayy9750 You could argue that it would still be very effective against Luffy because he had his life span shortened a lot from his overuse of his gears when he first uses them + magellans poison. However, Luffy could go on the defensive and use observation haki to dodge all of Naruto's attacks until baryon runs out.
@@saucekidjayy9750 then show me ho ichigo could win? lol i watched/watching all and clearly can say how naruto is the strongest (pre-baryon use!)
dangai ichigo vs perfected aizen... aizen shooted with his cero what injured his arm well... that cero even was a smaller than a normal bijuu bomb!
mugetsu is the 100% of ichigo's power! there is no true zanpakuto... quincy zangetsu and hollow zangetszu already fused when they fought!!! currently fused zangetsu used the horn of salvation and the true ''bankai'' power! that zangetsu used shinigami hollow and quincy power! so mugetsu is the 100%... true bankai with hollow form just can be similar level...
we even can talking about how aizen just become similar level than mugetsu ichigo... and then he said he is bigger because ichigo lost his power! but that aizen who was similar level than mugetsu ichigo could stand up against the last enemies!!! (and even his power was sealed!)
so yeah mugetsu ichigo is the final power...
and i am sure by the destruction area... naruto have much bigger destruction area! he litereally stopped that laser beam what cutted half the moon!!!
@@gipsymelody1268 😂 ok dude you’re entitled to your opinion same way I am but end of the day they’re just opinions
@@gipsymelody1268
Bro Gremmy created and tossed galaxies with nothing but a thought
Ichigo>>>Gremmy
I'm gonna need that Piccolo vs 17 Template
Perfect 🔥🔥🔥
Something else you could uses for the ap being consistent in bleach is bargan says he can destroy stars and the sun than you got transcendent aizen and dangai ichigo who transcends soul reapers and hollows
In hell arc it was revealed that Ichigo/Aizen/Yhwach’s SP was so strong that it held together the realms and kept the dimensions from pouring into each other.
Ichigo would solo and I believe that luffy has a chance against naruto just because of gear 5, like my guy will just turn narutos rasengan into a basketball.
In Base, he already beats Naruto in Speed and strength
That ichigo scale is a crazy down play. To say ichigo is solar while yhwach who’s = to ichigo was going to destroy the garganta which is the bleach verse itself that same verse that contains the dangling, hell, SS, WOTL,HM, VOS. And mind you vos are multiple infinite sized realms stated by kisuke and the main villain of the 1st movie. Also the dangai is stated to be a Space-Time by mayuri. And the garganta contains all of this. Yhwach was going to destroy the garganta.
More like combine which will eventually destroy everything in it to form the initial primordial universe
Ichigo solar? bro is downplaying like crazy. Ichi gotta be uni bro
I'm dead off the "One Piece still be-"
ITS TRUE
Still be goat
This is a very good video even tho I believe naruto is the second strongest in the big 3 u can possibly get luffy higher in strength based on the haki multiplers and the size of the one piece planet but overall this is a pretty W video and scale for all characters and I’m surprised u was accurate with ichigo scaling so good job getting the Ap for ichigo can be tricky especially some who just think he is just planet level 👍
Only in raw strength , naruto has higher dc because of his energy based attacks
@@udayjoshi223aybe because chakra is the power system🙀 (and “raw strength doesn't exist, you body can only take what it can output)
i like that this guy is honest
Alright I gotta admit I love your take on Ichigo XD I'm happy now lol