Stopping Power of .32 H&R Magnum -- and a Squib Load!
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- This week we take a closer look at the stopping power of the .32 H&R Magnum. During our testing, we happened to experience a squib load. This is a good example of why you should be cognizant of what's going on when you're shooting, as it has the potential for catastrophic failure including injury.
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FIREARMS SHOWN
.327 Federal Magnum Ruger LCRx
.327 Federal Magnum Ruger LCR
AMMUNITION SHOWN
Federal .32 H&R Magnum 95gr LSW
Hornady .32 H&R Magnum 100gr XTP - Sport
I like that You are giving the 32 some credit
I love that caliber! I am disappointed the Hornady underperformed but I am going to re-test with more samples and I know it will impress. Thanks for watching and see you next time.
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@@brandonhall6138 I am not that guy at all. We believe in upholding a high standard of conduct and will not ever be that channel! Thanks for viewing and supporting us, we appreciate it more than you know.
It's the best SD caliber period when you factor in all the variables.
I've got a Ruger Single six from the 80's that's chambered in .32 H&R. Over time its become my favorite trail/ camp gun.
This video is about to blow up with the new ultimate carry revolvers from S&W
That’s why I’m here lol. The availability of ammo might stop me though.
@@Peter-qq3io Nah, it's all over. Midway, SG Ammo, etc. Buffalo Bore, Lost River Ammo, Federal 85gr Personal Defense. You're probably not gonna find at sitting on the shelves everywhere but it's going to get easier to find with the release of the UC. Ammo companies were tipped off by Lipsey's that .32 H&R / S&W Long are going to be taking off.
Got my sw 632 UC last week. Could only find it on auction.
I certainly would watch more .32 H&R stuff.
Dad's got a Charter Arms Professional 32 H&R mag that is without a doubt one of the best pointing and best feeling revolvers that I've ever shot. It's got a 3" barrel so it's small enough to carry without even noticing you're carrying it and enough barrel length to get good velocities in the 32. That little revolver is a real pleasure to shoot but the ammo is a little expensive. The 32 long and 32 short are like shooting a 22 but again the ammo is expensive.
Interesting to me that Charter Arms is pretty much the only manufacturer who is still all in on 32 H&R Magnum. Beyond the cost, likely the best all around revolver caliber out there. Power and shoot ability, a lethal mix for certain.
I hear good things about them. A 3" barrel, black nitride finish, decent power, 7 shots, and only 22 oz (3 oz lighter than my 2.25" SP-101) , what's not to like?
People talk BS on Charter Arms, but I'll tell ya what, I love mine... I have a Patriot... It'll shoot anything from 32 S&W Short, 32 Auto, up to 327 Fed Magnum.... Its a decent handgun....
@@jasonbuck489 They are good guns for the money. I regret not grabbing a stainless Bulldog Pug sine years back when my fave shop had them on sale for $300. Years later i got a Rossi 720 from the best friend of my now late buddy for $250, so all was not lost. Now i need a 4-5/8" Blackhawk to go with it. What a trail gun that will be. Skeeter loads!
I have that same revolver and it’s awesome! It’s surprising how good and smooth the trigger is on it for a cheaper revolver. 7 shots is cool too in that small package. 👍🏻
Excellent demonstrations along with heads-up awareness of that squib!
Nicely done.
Really awesome stuff on this channel; very well presented. Please keep the content coming, especially on the .32 H & R mag and the .327 mag as I'm starting to get into these calibers.
I've totally swapped over. LCR, or a Smith Shield + in 30 SC. They use the same bullets. If you reload it's a no brainer. Sweet spot for the revolvers is right in the middle. 33K PSI. I use H&R brass, and CFE pistol. No blast, low recoil, and great performance. Know any one that would like to buy some 9MM.
I am a fan of the 32s, while I choose to reload to gallery load velocities for plinking, I do reload to standard velocities for both the 32 H&R and the 327 federal.
I have two Taurus 327s and one LCRX. The others are charter arms, my wife and I stage one in each of our cars and one near each entrance of our home, all well hidden.
Being in our 70s we know we are potential targets for bad guys, what the bad guys don’t know is that we practice and brief S A when getting in and out of the car and while carrying, we are not paranoid people, just aware of our surroundings.
We both have worked out of the country where the street level threats were much higher than they are here in the US.
That experience has help tune our SA
Having the ability to, PLINK for pennies a round really helps with muscle memory and her comfort level.
For target fun with rifles we shoot a 32-20, a.32-40 bpcr and a 32 Long.
With respect to the revolvers, many do not know that a 327 Federal can shoot 32 Shorts , 32 S&W Long, 32H&R Magnum and the 327 Federal Magnum. ALL Out of the same gun.
Similarly, the 32 H&R Magnum can shoot the 32 S&W Short, 32 S&W Long and of course the 32 H&R Mag.
Thanks for the split screen recoil video showing the muzzle jump differences.
I’ve often been of the opinion that a confident (no flinch) lesser powered round is a better option than a miss with a magnum.
Great content, thanks
Did you reach out to Hornady regarding the squib and lower velocities than advertised? It would be interesting to get their reaction. Thanks for sharing. See/hearing the squib on camera is really eye-opening.
good thing you caught that and didn’t fire another shot
I think I've only seen 1 other video in the past ~3yrs that's caught a squib. So this was pretty eye opening, & your initial confused reaction was spot on!
It was really delayed because while you are filming your are always looking or thinking ahead to keep the flow going and finally.......the light bulb came on. Thanks for watching as always Eric!
I have a Ruger single seven in .327…5.5 inch barrel. Great Caliber with that heavier gun. I did have a early Taurus snubby in .327…..I agree, no fun. Thanks for your excellent vids, done right ! 👍🏻🤠
I have a .327 LCR. I usually carry it with federal HST 85 grain .327 low recoil. And my wife carries it with buffalo bore .32 s&w long 100 grain hardcast wadcutters. That is a great option for people who can't handle a lot of recoil and it really pushes that caliber to it's limit. It got 16 inches of penetration in gel. I'm curious how deep it would go into the gel you use...
I leave my LCR at home when I work nights with my wife with the same wadcutters. She shot it with low recoil 85 grain federal hydroshocks but she still thought the recoil was a bit much so I just went with the 32 S&W long. They’ll work fine.
Great video, love the 32s
Well done! I appreciate your showing the squib.
1st time seeing a squib load. I think Yankee Marshal described 1 years ago. Scary looking. Glad you came out on top on this one!
Thanks for the transparency.
I always enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work
As much residue as was on the base of that bullet that stuck in the bore, it appears there was SOME powder in the case, but it was either a gross undercharge, or the powder was contaminated. Regardless, less than 900 FPS from a 32 H&R with a 100 grain bullet is pretty weaksauce. Even from a "snubby", my handloads are well over 1,000 FPS, and I don't use maximum charges. You'd think that major manufacturers- who have access to powders we don't- could do a little better. Ah well, nice shooting at distance with a light, fixed-sight pocket pistol, and thanks for the test.
You are welcome and I really hope that was a "fluke" from Hornady. Totally Anemic load for sure. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for the rematch!
The hottest load published by Hodgdon for a 100-gr bullet from a 5-inch barrel is 1200 fps. You're getting over 1000 from a barrel 3 inches shorter? Wow.
5.5gns of powerpistol and a hornady 100 hp in a H&R case using a ruger sp-101 in 3" BBl clocked at 1150fps no pressure signs or sticky extraction, i have a 4 load video on the sp-101 in .327 magnum using H&R cases.
Moving down in power & recoil might "up your skill set, so to speak," but it definitely makes your skill set look better than what it is. My Ruger Mark IV Target makes me look like a sharpshooter, while my SP101 3.2" .357 makes me look like I need to put in a lot more effective range time.
Everyone always needs more range time. Nobody cares....train harder.
Thanks for the demonstration. I got the SP101 right after they came out with 327 since it was the only one at that time. Then I got a Taurus Titanium, then a S&W Air Weight, just recently another Taurus Ultra Lite, and this week an S&W Air Lite Ti (titanium cylinder) the lightest of all these H&R Magnums. With an IDPA target I was doing a nice group of head shots at 15yds with the Air Weight and the Taurus Titanium. The S&W was a slightly tighter group. I think I was using Georgia Arms hollow point ammo at the time, a few years ago. I am curious how the Hornady critical defense ammo would do with the ballistic tip, that is the one with the hollow point filled in. That might be the 327 only though.
I had a squib load in a .32 ACP once. I knew exactly what it was, and was able to get the handgun (my grandfather's Savage 1917) out of my hands and safely down quickly. My dad and I knocked the 71-grain FMJ out of the barrel an hour later at his house. That's a handgun that I don't shoot often, and it's easy to tell why ...
Could you do a show on s&w long the different loads
The Buffalo
Buffalo bore 32 h&r load splits the difference between 32 h&r 327.
I think XTPs require more velocity to function like a hollow point.
Thanks for the advice on the Buffalo Bore! I completely agree, they just did not develop any speed to perform properly. I am going to re-test very soon with a wider selection of ammo, stay tuned for that one in a couple of weeks.
@@AmmoMartwhat is the best defensive load for s&w long LRN, SJHP, wadctter, or hardcast LFN or FMJ. One more question what do you think about Magtech Ammo
Fantastic video, excellent job catching that squib load. Being able to hear the difference in noise made is an important lesson for those of us watching.
Ammo wise double tap has two interesting options a 60 grain self defense round currently available, and a 120 grain hardcast. Wisconsin cartridge has a 100 grain jhp as well.
I really have to get some gel so I can see the difference in performance out of my 3" CA professional compared to the 2" barrel so many tests are being done with.
Once again thanks for covering this interesting and potent little cartridge.
Thanks for the tip! I really appreciate it when our viewers share their knowledge and experience. I certainly cannot be familiar with all of it and again thanks for watching and commenting.
@@AmmoMart My pleasure, also Ventura Munitions have a 85 grain, 100grain and 118 grain .32 H&R magnum rounds available.
I am really looking forward to your next video on the topic. As others have said its nice to have no nonsense firearms content creators, that are just interested in the data, and function of the firearms they cover. Keep it up.
@@AmmoMartI noticed allot less recoil. "When you think something is wrong, it is". That's an extremely logical & wise statement about owning a firearm.
You expected 1,300 FPS? From what I've seen, 850-950 is normal for this round from a 2" barrel.
Great catch, awful lucky that you thought about it before trying to fire again. Very close call but I'm glad all is good.
It was a close one! The issue is when you are filming your mind is always on the next thing or topic to keep it flowing and I almost got ahead of myself, certainly would have been hard on the hands or worse. Thanks for watching and be safe.
I've only seen one other squib load ever. That was 40 years ago in an AR.
Does that mean it wasn't enough gun powder in shell that made that happen
Great set of videos on this very unique and interesting round. Look carefully at the test criteria Hornady used to publish those fps figures. I'm almost positive they tested that load out of a much longer barrel to get velocity that high... 1300 fps. Hope that helps.
There used to be a ninty ish grain soft point for the thrity two twenty high speed they shot /expanded very well in the h&r as always you can due alot with self packing be safe squib sounded like no powder another reason to keep a pencil with you be careful Peace
Good thing you were slow-shooting when the squib happened. If that had happened while you were rapid-firing, you might not have had time to realize “Oh oh, STOP!” before pressing again.
Seeing this made me wonder if shooting a bigger heavier steel revolver like a GP100 or SP100 is inherently safer than something tiny like the LCR in a squib situation. I mean, if there is a catastrophic failure and a round explodes, I’d probably much rather have it happen in a thick heavy barrel. Yeah, you lose the gun, but hopefully that’s all.
Also, I had a minor heart attack when you had the squib and then looked down the barrel at 8:39. Yeah, the cartridge had gone off, but there’s still powder in there and a bullet in the barrel. One of my childhood friends lost an eye while cleaning his gun.
How did that happen
@@craigfinley2507 He had a light hunting rifle. Might have been a .223. He was cleaning it and there was apparently some powder that hadn’t gone off for whatever reason. Anyway, as he was cleaning it, he looked into the barrel and that’s when it went off. He lost sight in one eye.
He later became a doctor. The accident might have sparked a strong interest in medicine.
The XTP has always seemed ro need 1100 fps or more to teliably expand. So it is at its best in magnum revolvers and 9mm +p. It was originally marketed as a controlled expansion hunting bullet, so i think Hornady is being a little lazy by loading ot in this and other things like 9x18. I think you mis-stated velocity. There is no way an H&R will ever get near 1300 fps. The original Federal 85 gr loads were rated at no more than 1050 or 1085 fps (3" barrel i think, but I don't remember). I think you were thinking of the 327 when you said that. The H&R seems useful with careful ammo selection, and of course it is a great practice round. A Single Seven in 327 with the 4-5/8" barrel seems like it would be a nice trail gun.
Buffalo Bore 100 grain jhp will go 1260 fps out of my 3” Ruger sp101
If you reload the 32s&w long can you put unique powder and red dot powder i guess they may have a chart. Im learning . Get back
Em Portugal ha muitos ruguer sp 101 em 32 magnum...a ruguer creio que ja nao exporta revolveres para ca gostava desse modelo
I like hand loaded 100 grain LSWCHP because they should expand better at the lower velocity. For 327FM I like 115 grain LSWCHP.
There is no 100-gr Hornady 32 H&R load, they make only 80-gr FTX in 32 H&R. Expecting 1300 fps from a 2-in barrel? Popular 80gr loads all run less than 1070 fps from a 4-in barrel (LuckyGunner Lab).
Squib Loads are easy to remove if you have a blank round.
Thanks but no thanks….
I've noticed that hollow point clog up when shooting deni
m and become FMJ's.
Where can you find ammo for this? I looked online not much luck. I would think it would be a bit popular since several bignames re-introduced new guns chambered in this.
I've been touring my local gun shops here recently and have found a mixture of .32 S&W Long, .32 H&R Mag, and .327. I happen to have a Bass Pro Shop nearby and I don't believe they stock *any* .32 other than .32 acp.
I see Lucky Gunner has Long and a couple of .327 loads.
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XTPs need much more velocity to open.
Saw the 32HR +P Buffalo Bore get 1250 FPS !
That BB round is very hot.
I carry 100 gr. Hard cast by Buffalo Bore in one of my vehicle
Was that the Hornady?
It was their xtp round.
What is a squb load
I've never heard of that before just now. I believe it means the round misfired & the bullet got stuck in the barrel
Under charged or too big a bullet used
Try the buffalo bore loads
I've never considered Hornady to be anything but low to mid-tier quality. There are much better "boutique" options for 32H&R in Buffalo Bore and DoubleTap. And if in a pinch, the Federal 85gr will get the job done too. Pass on the Hornady.
Thanks for watching the channel and I must tell you, they are certainly no better than lots of others based on our testing! Just average as you stated, and this sample was horrible. Totally under powered and unimpressive. I will give 'em a shot at redemption soon. But will also use other brands for a side by side. Thanks for commenting and be safe.
Ive owned two 32 H&R chambered revolvers. A rare Ruger convertible with 32h&r and 32-20 cylinders and Smith Wesson m-631 4” which is a current favorite. I reloaded which is easy and straightforward. I love it.
What model gun has the convertible cylinder?
No 1300 with a 2" barrel, lol. Clay
How many times you gonna shoot a guy with 4 layers of denim? 😳🤷♂️👌😆
It's to be in accordance with the FBI's testing proticols, which are the baseline standard most other people use. Results are more meaningful when they can be compared against other results using the same protocol.
Besides, it's better to test with the 4-layers of denim as a worst-case scenario and know that your ammo of choice will still perform than to only test shooting through 1 layer of t-shirt and then run into the worst-case scenario in the field where it really counts.
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By no
Are you usually suppose to look down the barrel of your gun when you get a squib? Lol
You can't remove a stuck projectile yourself???? Just stick a wooden dowel in there and push.
THE ONLY TIME I EVER GET ANY EXPANSION FROM THE XTP 140 GR IN 38 SPCL +P LOADS IS IF I REALLY SCORE THE EXISTING CREASES WITH A XZACTO KNIFE -- AND I REALLY CUT IT AS DEEP AS I CAN - THEN THEY'LL EXPAND A BIT IN MY RELOADS -- OTHERWISE YOU'RE WASTING YOUR TIME IMHO
I have a Ruger NM Single Six in .32 mag. 6" bbl 50 ft. off a rest 6 rounds touching all day long. (90 gr. TC/ using Unique).