Excellent video Peter. I hope you continue to have collaborations with Huma Air, because that will be a great benefit to us FX owners. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks man 🙂 They really make some good parts, so I would not mind it at all 😎 Kinda excited to see if this video will empty their shelves with pin probes 😜 Have a great weekend 🙂
I expect a positive review on your channel will increase interest and sales. However I’m not sure how many have these new rifles. I think a lot of FX owners have for example, the Mk2 and then got the Mk3 - but had to keep the Mk2 as well because there is no 2nd hand value in it. So if they were to get one of these latest models - then they would end up with 3 rifles 😊 But anyone with this latest model will for sure be tempted to fit the probe at least, based on your findings! Have a great weekend in the snow
@auntysocialist The dynamic block is the same in all 3 guns - Dynamic, Panthera and King, so the pin probe will fit yours. Im not aware of other performance enhancing parts so far. For the 2 screws at the end of the plenum I have not heard about not tightening down, but I saw somewhere that new guns comes without these screws (?) I would not leave them untightened, but I dont make them extremely tight anyway 🙂
@@VikingAirgunnerMaybe the 8mm hammerweight (not the tungsten) I got some great results combined with the Huma Port and pinprobe. 30cal 60gr slug easily to 1000 fps. Reg on 150bar and macrowheel on 16. Micro on 3.5.
I brought the Huma pin probe about 3 months ago for my .30 & haven't bothered to install it. But watching your video today, I'm going to instal it this weekend. Always good to run lower reg pressure, not only for accuracy but less stress on the guns internals. Thanks for the video 😊
Damn that is a long gun. FX is a great company that always finds a way to get back into your wallet after the initial purchase for some kind of upgrade and frequently I might add. Freddy is no dummy that's for sure. One thing I love about my LCS SK-19...I haven't had to add anything after the initial purchase. It came perfect and needed nothing which for the money IMO it shouldn't. FX has a amazing marketing strategy.
I dont want to sound defensive of FX, but I still havent had a gun of theirs that absolutely needed upgrades. All can be shot perfectly fine the way they are. Upgrades are nice yes, but not 100% nessecary. Buying a car is the same thing - no matter the brand. I dont mind this, since I can build the gun to my liking. And in this video it is not FX making money from the upgrade - its Huma 😉
Great video. Just ordered the kit from Huma. Not sure what I will do with it yet but I think I'm going to build a 700mm slug monster and chuck 40 grainers at like 1020.
Thanks buddy 🤗 So funny - I was actually considering the 700 mm barrel kit for mine last week 😃 A buddy of mine, Jamie from the UK did the Huma upgrade on his 25 cal with good results. Started with a slightly heavier hammer before installing the Huma reg, and aparently it had a positive effect on consistancy. I love my Panthera after installing the Huma reg, but the 700 mm and 20 gr slugs would be a good match for the gun/plenum. It would be interesting to test that setup for the max power 😃😎 My 700 mm M3 could push 20 gr at 1060 fps. I would not be surprised to see the Panthera go past 1100 😎
You can also change pin probe from back side of the block. Maby its not faster but if somebody dont want to deal with barrel removal its the way to do it
Very useful information. I have purchased the brass hammer weight and pin probe from Huma. Really satisfied with the results. Appreciate your efforts in information gathering and showing the process for installation. Good shooting!
Great video Peter very informative and by the way home made specialized tools are always the BEST!! Thanks you for sharing this with me. Cheers from the desert SW USA!
Hello Peter, Can you do a walk thru on how to tune the Panthera I have a .30cal in only getting 860 fps.. I just ordered the Huma-air kit cant wait to get it and install it
Im sure that you will gain some velocity with the kit 👍👍 I will install a reg from Huma pretty soon and if that turns out to be the succes that Im counting on, I might do a tuning video. I have not had the Panthera for that long, so Im not really an expert on it yet, but when I feel 100% comfortable I will do it 🤓
Great video ! I received my pin probe today for my 177 panthera compact. Sadly I did not manage to get it in. I can’t seem to push it in the last 2 mm. Any idea why? Keep up the good work ☝️
My guess is that there is some Loctite left in the hole where the probe is attached - or the rotation is off. So either a cleaning of the hole ora 90 degree turn will solve the problem :-)
Do you plan on trying this setup with a tungsten hammer and heavier slugs? Pushing the limits and all that? Ordered one not sure if im ever gonna install it 😮,i might.
With the 600 mm liner that I have currently installed I would not consider shooting anything heavier than a 16 gr slug. For a slug heavier than that it would require a longer barrel. It is possible to shoot a heavier slug in the 600 mm liner, yes but it is not made for it. In the 700 mm liner it would be great. I have seen it - even tuned a Panthera myself with a 20 gr slug - and it worked very well. The Panthera has a huge advantage in terms of supreme power bcs of the 156 cc plenum. You dont need a heavier hammer for the 20 gr. You can get a slightly heavier hammer which is supposed to make it more stabile, but the tungsten hammer is not nessecary for 177 - like not at all! I actually think that it is too heavy, so you can adjust the hammer down enough 🤔
Thanks for the good video. I'm waiting for the exact same parts to arrive for my King .25. My intention is to convert my rifle to .30 caliber and put in a V2 and pin Probe
I put the pin probe on my FX King .25 and the velocity increased to about 35-40 fps. I used ZAN 37 grains. I am satisfied with the result. I had problems with the installation. I had to thin the mountingpin about 0.1 mm. Is there any difference between King's and Pantera's parts? This pinprobe was intended for Pantera. At least I thought they were technically exactly the same
@@kallemattila3687 So about the same increase that I had. That is good info - thanks for sharing 🙂 To my knowledge the block is the exact same in all 3 guns, but from what you experienced there might be minor differences. But I dont think so. Did you share this experience with Huma? I assume you bought it from them?
@@VikingAirgunner I contact Huma and this is their answer: Dear, yes this should normally fit. But we have found that in some instances the carrier in the gun is slightly undersized. Of the several hundred we have sold we have gotten feedback of 3 or 4 that exhibited the problem.
hello, excellent demonstration! a question: can you give me the reference of your front bottle which allows you to keep the rail? brand, volume, diameter? THANKS
Thanks Richard Its a normal 480 cc bottle that you can get anywhere. But to keep your rail you need the drop down bottle adapter from Saber Tactical 👍 There is a detailed describtion in the my first video about the Panthera.
Hi Peter maybe u can help. If de gas my panthera to took the reg down when turned the bottle back. The gun is leaking air into the barrel now a small bit
Its one way to go 😃 But yes defenately the pin probe. I havent tested to throughly that I can tell the difference in accuracy between the two transfer ports.
@VikingAirgunner Yeah, I got both and I'm thinking of putting the factory TP back in. In your short testing, you gained the most fps with the factory TP and HUMA pin probe correct and lowest spread?
fantastic video. congratulations. I would like to ask you an important question. when you have installed the valve for the front bottle, you can have air in the back bottle and remove the front bottle from the air gun. in this case the airgun will lose air from the front valve of the saber tactical or is the valve tight??
Thank you so much and thank you for your question. If you loosen on of the bottles the air from the other will leak out, so you have to loosen both bottles at the same time to avoid air from eacaping. Its very easy and no problem at all 🙂
@@VikingAirgunner It's always nice to know what velocities people are getting with what settings. I understand that for this test it may STRICTLY not matter, but when i hear 1000 fps at 140 bars, i'm automatically interested in the weight of the pellet. Maybe that's just me though
@@VikingAirgunner Thank you. Also, i am reading bck my original post and i could have phrased my question a bit more polite i see now. Allright happy shooting
Excellent video Peter. I hope you continue to have collaborations with Huma Air, because that will be a great benefit to us FX owners. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks man 🙂
They really make some good parts, so I would not mind it at all 😎
Kinda excited to see if this video will empty their shelves with pin probes 😜
Have a great weekend 🙂
I expect a positive review on your channel will increase interest and sales. However I’m not sure how many have these new rifles. I think a lot of FX owners have for example, the Mk2 and then got the Mk3 - but had to keep the Mk2 as well because there is no 2nd hand value in it. So if they were to get one of these latest models - then they would end up with 3 rifles 😊 But anyone with this latest model will for sure be tempted to fit the probe at least, based on your findings! Have a great weekend in the snow
@@nonickname6154 But then again - 3 rifles is not that bad 😜😃
And a great weekend to you 😎
@auntysocialist The dynamic block is the same in all 3 guns - Dynamic, Panthera and King, so the pin probe will fit yours. Im not aware of other performance enhancing parts so far.
For the 2 screws at the end of the plenum I have not heard about not tightening down, but I saw somewhere that new guns comes without these screws (?)
I would not leave them untightened, but I dont make them extremely tight anyway 🙂
@@VikingAirgunnerMaybe the 8mm hammerweight (not the tungsten) I got some great results combined with the Huma Port and pinprobe. 30cal 60gr slug easily to 1000 fps. Reg on 150bar and macrowheel on 16. Micro on 3.5.
I brought the Huma pin probe about 3 months ago for my .30 & haven't bothered to install it. But watching your video today, I'm going to instal it this weekend.
Always good to run lower reg pressure, not only for accuracy but less stress on the guns internals.
Thanks for the video 😊
Amen to that 😃
Let me know what difference it makes in your 30 cal 🙏🙏
Damn that is a long gun. FX is a great company that always finds a way to get back into your wallet after the initial purchase for some kind of upgrade and frequently I might add. Freddy is no dummy that's for sure. One thing I love about my LCS SK-19...I haven't had to add anything after the initial purchase. It came perfect and needed nothing which for the money IMO it shouldn't. FX has a amazing marketing strategy.
I dont want to sound defensive of FX, but I still havent had a gun of theirs that absolutely needed upgrades. All can be shot perfectly fine the way they are. Upgrades are nice yes, but not 100% nessecary.
Buying a car is the same thing - no matter the brand.
I dont mind this, since I can build the gun to my liking.
And in this video it is not FX making money from the upgrade - its Huma 😉
@@VikingAirgunner I have to agree with your comment 100%. They create options for those who want more but you do not really need them.
Good stuff keep em coming
Great video. Just ordered the kit from Huma. Not sure what I will do with it yet but I think I'm going to build a 700mm slug monster and chuck 40 grainers at like 1020.
Thanks buddy 🤗
So funny - I was actually considering the 700 mm barrel kit for mine last week 😃
A buddy of mine, Jamie from the UK did the Huma upgrade on his 25 cal with good results. Started with a slightly heavier hammer before installing the Huma reg, and aparently it had a positive effect on consistancy.
I love my Panthera after installing the Huma reg, but the 700 mm and 20 gr slugs would be a good match for the gun/plenum. It would be interesting to test that setup for the max power 😃😎 My 700 mm M3 could push 20 gr at 1060 fps. I would not be surprised to see the Panthera go past 1100 😎
You can also change pin probe from back side of the block. Maby its not faster but if somebody dont want to deal with barrel removal its the way to do it
You have to take the whole trigger system apart for that and it is not faster. I tried it so I know all about it.
Very useful information. I have purchased the brass hammer weight and pin probe from Huma. Really satisfied with the results. Appreciate your efforts in information gathering and showing the process for installation. Good shooting!
Thanks for your comment Andy🙂 I really appreciate it.
And thank you for sharing your experiences 🤗
Great video Peter very informative and by the way home made specialized tools are always the BEST!! Thanks you for sharing this with me. Cheers from the desert SW USA!
Thanks Robert 🙂
Wish that I was a bit more skilled in producing tools - but as long that it works 😎😜
Have a great weekend 🙂
Hello Peter, Can you do a walk thru on how to tune the Panthera I have a .30cal in only getting 860 fps.. I just ordered the Huma-air kit cant wait to get it and install it
Im sure that you will gain some velocity with the kit 👍👍
I will install a reg from Huma pretty soon and if that turns out to be the succes that Im counting on, I might do a tuning video.
I have not had the Panthera for that long, so Im not really an expert on it yet, but when I feel 100% comfortable I will do it 🤓
I wish they could do better for the prices they charge enjoyed your helpful video 👍
Great info thank you 👍👍
Great video ! I received my pin probe today for my 177 panthera compact. Sadly I did not manage to get it in. I can’t seem to push it in the last 2 mm. Any idea why?
Keep up the good work ☝️
My guess is that there is some Loctite left in the hole where the probe is attached - or the rotation is off. So either a cleaning of the hole ora 90 degree turn will solve the problem :-)
Do you plan on trying this setup with a tungsten hammer and heavier slugs? Pushing the limits and all that? Ordered one not sure if im ever gonna install it 😮,i might.
With the 600 mm liner that I have currently installed I would not consider shooting anything heavier than a 16 gr slug. For a slug heavier than that it would require a longer barrel. It is possible to shoot a heavier slug in the 600 mm liner, yes but it is not made for it. In the 700 mm liner it would be great. I have seen it - even tuned a Panthera myself with a 20 gr slug - and it worked very well. The Panthera has a huge advantage in terms of supreme power bcs of the 156 cc plenum.
You dont need a heavier hammer for the 20 gr. You can get a slightly heavier hammer which is supposed to make it more stabile, but the tungsten hammer is not nessecary for 177 - like not at all! I actually think that it is too heavy, so you can adjust the hammer down enough 🤔
Great video again, thank you Peter.
Good content
Great information and testing!
Thanks Pat 🙂
Thanks for the good video. I'm waiting for the exact same parts to arrive for my King .25. My intention is to convert my rifle to .30 caliber and put in a V2 and pin Probe
Thats a great project! I hope that you will get the same effect that I did 🤞🤞
I put the pin probe on my FX King .25 and the velocity increased to about 35-40 fps. I used ZAN 37 grains. I am satisfied with the result. I had problems with the installation. I had to thin the mountingpin about 0.1 mm. Is there any difference between King's and Pantera's parts? This pinprobe was intended for Pantera. At least I thought they were technically exactly the same
@@kallemattila3687 So about the same increase that I had. That is good info - thanks for sharing 🙂
To my knowledge the block is the exact same in all 3 guns, but from what you experienced there might be minor differences. But I dont think so.
Did you share this experience with Huma? I assume you bought it from them?
@@VikingAirgunner I contact Huma and this is their answer: Dear, yes this should normally fit. But we have found that in some instances the carrier in the gun is slightly undersized. Of the several hundred we have sold we have gotten feedback of 3 or 4 that exhibited the problem.
@@kallemattila3687,
I have had the same experience,had to grind of some material to made it fit
And contacted Huma, they said exactly the same thing
Hi Peter. I notice your guns always look sparkly clean. What do you clean/polish the exterior parts with?
I never thought of that but they actually do 😃
I just wipe them with a micro fiber cloth if it has been raining, so no cleaning agent of any kind 🙂
hello, excellent demonstration! a question: can you give me the reference of your front bottle which allows you to keep the rail? brand, volume, diameter? THANKS
Thanks Richard
Its a normal 480 cc bottle that you can get anywhere. But to keep your rail you need the drop down bottle adapter from Saber Tactical 👍
There is a detailed describtion in the my first video about the Panthera.
@@VikingAirgunner Thank you very much for your answer! I have the double tactical saber!!!
Hi Peter maybe u can help. If de gas my panthera to took the reg down when turned the bottle back. The gun is leaking air into the barrel now a small bit
It is usually the valve leaking when air come into the barrel.
Thanks
Very nice and detailed video. One question, how much longer is the shroud on the 600mm panthera then the actual barrel?
From the end of the jam nut to the end of the shroud itself it is 3 cm 👍
Thanks. Hey how did your seating depth vary with the slug / pin probe install? same? deeper? or less?
Its the same🙂
@@VikingAirgunner thks
Som altid en god video ven.👍
Tak Michael 🙂
So, factory transfer port and HUMA pin probe is the way to go?
Its one way to go 😃
But yes defenately the pin probe. I havent tested to throughly that I can tell the difference in accuracy between the two transfer ports.
@VikingAirgunner
Yeah, I got both and I'm thinking of putting the factory TP back in. In your short testing, you gained the most fps with the factory TP and HUMA pin probe correct and lowest spread?
@@wsmc8275 yes that is correct 🙂
fantastic video. congratulations. I would like to ask you an important question. when you have installed the valve for the front bottle, you can have air in the back bottle and remove the front bottle from the air gun. in this case the airgun will lose air from the front valve of the saber tactical or is the valve tight??
Thank you so much and thank you for your question.
If you loosen on of the bottles the air from the other will leak out, so you have to loosen both bottles at the same time to avoid air from eacaping. Its very easy and no problem at all 🙂
@@VikingAirgunner .that's bad news. Ok thanks you.
This will fix on a Dynamic?
Yes 🙂
what slugs are you using bro that is important info please share
Why is that important for this test?
@@VikingAirgunner It's always nice to know what velocities people are getting with what settings. I understand that for this test it may STRICTLY not matter, but when i hear 1000 fps at 140 bars, i'm automatically interested in the weight of the pellet.
Maybe that's just me though
@@tmright18 It is not like it is a secret 😃
I was using the 16 gr Zan
@@VikingAirgunner Thank you. Also, i am reading bck my original post and i could have phrased my question a bit more polite i see now. Allright happy shooting
@@tmright18 No problem at all 🙂
I seem to forget mentioning details from time to time, so thank you for reminding me to keep focused 😉
you look like Fantomas😮
Or like Peter Schmeichel, or Ronald Kohmann, or danish Mads Steffensen 😂
Aparently I look like a bunch of people, but Fantomas was new 😃
177? 22?
Always 177 on my channel ☝️
Let's discuss cal once. 22 boss
What do you mean? 🙂