I played 'Suicide Squad' and I have thoughtsâŠ
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 5. 09. 2024
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Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League is an upcoming action-adventure game developed by Rocksteady Studios and published by Warner Bros. Games. The game is scheduled to release for PlayStation 5, Windows and Xbox Series X/S on February 2, 2024.
Kill the Justice League is the fifth main installment in the Batman: Arkham series, taking place five years after the events of Batman: Arkham Knight, and the first not to feature Batman as the main protagonist, though the character still appears, posthumously voiced by Kevin Conroy in his final performance as Batman. Based on the DC Comics supervillain/anti-hero team the Suicide Squad, the game revolves around the titular team of super-criminals, who are assembled by Amanda Waller and sent to Metropolis to stop the alien invader Brainiac and save the members of the Justice League brainwashed by him.
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It took Rocksteady a decade and a half and three games to build up all that goodwill and WB Games had them blow through it in about a year. Nice job.
Yeah. I feel sorry for devs who hate chasing a trend but have to cos corporate tells them to if they want a job.
They were rumored to be making a TMNT game, I was so hyped. Instead we got Marvel Avengers 2.0, this crap will be dead and forgotten just like Gotham Knights was. This is the definition of not being able to read a room.
Did you play Arkham Origins though?
â@@ksl-988 It had the best boss fights out of the whole series
â@@ksl-988 bro origins is good the fuck
Really should have been a linear story driven game
Yea, i agree
zoomers don't like single player games
With the Justice league instead of the suicide squad.
Dude thats what you want, and other people want, but guess what... it's not, its not the same thing they made in the past, get over it... it's a game maybe not for you, but for people who are interested in it. Easy.
â@@MalikATLI heavily disagree on that
"it's fun with friends!"
Literally anything is fun with friends
Yes, even fentanyl
Except maybe Russian roulette. That can't be fun with friends. đ€
Playing with dirt was fun back when we used to play with friends as little children.
Balan wonderworld is fun with friends too....
@@Marc-rw3dd at least we can laugh at it together
âI donât know why youâd pay $70 to get 7 minutes of interesting content, and then 2 hours of bloat and then you gotta sift through all that bloat to get to the good stuff.â Welcome to live service.
This is my biggest issue with games like this. Avengers. Gotham Knights. They're all holding a interesting and appealing narrative, that they know people would want to see, in the dullest, most mind numbing, and boring grind, a human could possibly experience. Even hearing about the gameplay experience you had, nearly put me to sleep. The sooner this trend of live service games crashes and burns, the better off we all shall be
Exactly, the premise sounds really cool but it's wrapped up with generic and utterly uninteresting gameplay.
After all who wants to grind until the game gets interesting/good. Surely the game should be DESIGNED good from the get go.
games as a service is a modern torture method that will probably be studied by future civilizations
@@Marc-rw3dd đ
I heard both of those games had awful stories.
Honestly I was looking forward to this game when it was first announced because I love Suicide Squad and think a Suicide Squad game would be awesome. But honestly, after finding out itâs live-service and itâs forced online multiplayer, I really have no interest anymore.
You smartened up,gj.
I played Gotham knights. I'm expecting much of the same soulessness.
@@mrthewhite2620I liked GN
You can play solo if I'm not mistaken so it's not " forced "
you can play it offline too
It would be really cool if Harley had only her hammer and an RPG and maybe some of the Arkham Joker gadgets, Boomer had his various special boomerangs King Shark was purely melee, and Deadshot had all the guns. Genuinely give the characters some different play styles
You just spent more time developing characters than the game studio.
@@cecilkeith1951 sad and true
EXACTLY, and it's so obvious, why did they do that?
@@liquid1514 just as you said, It's obvious that they went with guns in order to monetize the sh*t out of the game. The priority is the live service elements. You can see the effort put into de game but it's just that the majority of the focus went on the least atractive parts for us who'd play the game.
Oh man, I wish. And it's not like we can't turn them into loot. King Shark could get brass knuckles and claws for pure melee
I know this seems harsh, but I genuinely hope this game tanks financially. WB Games should have recognized long ago that the live service model is not the right call for Rocksteady, these characters, or the publisher in general. We've seen so many games like this die spectacularly, and quite literally only a handful truly succeed. The people who pushed the game in this direction need to learn. If that harsh truth requires utter failure, so be it.
Its a real shame that Rocksteady had to be the one to take the bullet they are so damn talented
For honor, hitman, rainbow six seige, the crew 2, riders Republic, division, gta 5, assassin creed orgins Odyssey & valhalla, wildlands & breakpoints, Warhammer vermintide, shadow of war. All great games
For someone who'd anticipated Kevin Conroy as his last performance, We all gotta admit that it's already ruined by the company's greed@@Dubtoy94
â@@alexwilliams4729modern AC games are genuinely terrible wastes of time, they're not good games. Lol
None of the new ones have any respect for the player times. (Excluding maybe mirage so at least they're learning)
@@alexwilliams4729no way u said valhalla was a good game genuinely the biggest waste of time in my life
If it was any other studio yk id be fine what hurts is that this is rocksteady the guys that redefined the superhero genre the Arkham series is genuinely my favorite series of all time to seem them fall into the common tropes of the video game industry now just hurts
And the worst part will be that it tanking will affect them INSTEAD OF corporate.
Never forget this feeling. Don't preorder. Follow developers directly. Most of the actual people who made the Arkham series don't work there anymore. When you replace your whole staff, especially the leaders, you have a new company. It's just wearing the Rocksteady skin suit.
@@BouncingTribbles Exactly, and only just recently I believe, the 2 co founders of RS have now also left and started another AAA studio with about 100 or so employees, all who have been in the industry for 15+yrs. They're no longer under the thumb of WB, hopefully only good things to come.
@@RV-vx9ek What's the studio?
New staff = new company. This isn't Rocksteady.
Seems like the game is going to be what I expected based on the trailers and news. I doubt I'll pick this up. I loved Arkham Asylum and especially Arkham City. I had hoped Rocksteady would remain focused on story-driven games as they know how to make that type of games imo.
Yeah. Just wait for your favourite reviewer to cover it and see if it'll even be worth it on sale.
Hell they could have gone anywhere with DC characters! Superman, Green Lantern (a literal Space Detective which would have built off their current systems). Plastic Man oh man the possibilities are limitless. And this is what they were forced to create. Sad...
If the story is the fun and best part: it should have been a single player story driven game
@@KingmoneyJay23 I think it comes down to greedy suits at the top demanding live service titals
@@KingmoneyJay23 The money people wanted micro transactions so they prioritized theb usiness model of the game over satisfying gameplay . It's why the game feels unfocused because if you're buying better loot and gear than your investment is seeing those damage numbers go up in the lcunky UI , and the way to get people to buy better gear and loot is to make hteir gameplay feel sluggish and make the game feel worse.
That's the truly evil think about Games as a Service models, it incentivizes making bad gameplay that players are willing o pay cash to improve. It's intentional degradation of gameplay.
you will be able to play offline but not on launch
If the story is the "fun" and "best" part, then your videogame already failed as a videogame.
Can't see how killing the best version of Batman and heros we didn't even got introduced can be fun.
Also the game has multiverse bullshit because of course they would.
This is the end of the Arkhamverse, there is no coming back from this, there is a reason the founders of the company left.
there's actually 2 games in Suicide Squad
one is from Rocksteady with good characters, good writing, story, voice acting and good small missions (as Luke said ~7 mins)
second game is from studio heads and executives, live service, looter-shooter, boring open world
Well it certainly looks like we're never gonna see the former
â@@davidd.6448when this flops, which it will, WB will have to let Rocksteady do their thing
Naw when it flops they'll blame and shut rock steady down. Besides most of the ppl who made rock steady dope have long since left the company.
No, there's just the one shitty game.
Then there's this attempt to distance devs from what they made. Executive directives or not, this game was never going to be good.
there's one and its the bad game
Rocksteady died when so many left before this game and now the founders are gone, there's no saving this game
never give it a "ill try it out" mentality to microtransaction filled live service games with terrible designs and UI
The more gameplay i see of this its making me feel like theyâre trying to make these characters move like spiderman when it just doesnât make sense
How so?
This was the exact thought I had also! Why are they all flying through the air and swinging building to building like spiderman...It is very off putting and it makes it feel very cheap and shallow...
@@buzzjaylen2730 just the overall movement looks like they made a game similar to how you move around in spiderman and then they put the suicide squad coat of paint over it, i was initially excited when this game was first announced but i envisioned the gameplay in a much different way than what we have now.
@@buzzjaylen2730are you blind? Just look. What do you mean how soâŠ. Literally look.
All they have done is mad traversal momentum based - which is how insomniac did it with Spiderman. It makes sense. Traversal is really fun in this game IMHO
I hate it that because some people buy into this crap of live service games, gaming companies will keep pumping these out.
Hope they eventually charge players for booting up the game, pay-per-session subscription and coughing extra to save, in addition to paying for an already unbaked, unfinished alpha that costs as much as medical bills to have it "finished".
- Said no one ever.
Been following your journey talking about this game for months and just seeing the tonal shift a lil now is what I expected from you. Keep up the good work we need people like you in this industry even more today đđđ
From the amazing batman series, to this. Jesus.
And it being Kevin Conroy last game makes it depressing
â@@pasindupereraSLstop reminding me!
How far the mighty have fallen
@@budoshi1981 its literally a comic book game what the hell are expecting some Elden Ring level type masterpiece? get the fk over it đđ
@@swickster No, we're expecting more of a master piece like anything from the Arkham series. Why? Because this studio did those.
Thank you for both your honest opinion, and for confirming my worst fear in regards to this game. As per your suggestion, I think I'll just watch the cutscenes on CZcams and experience the story without dealing with the boring grind. Such a shame, I still had some hopes for this one.
They need to stop f*cking around and make a new ultimate alliance. Only reason I was excited about this game is because I thought itâd take inspiration from ultimate alliance but instead we got sunset overdrive in metropolis
â@@porkyonfroy8338???
They did make a new ultimate alliance.
Idk of it was good, sucks that it's a switch exclusive, but it exists
Its not his truly honest opinion lol. Heâs just going with the popular opinion
@@porkyonfroy8338you thought this was gonna be like ultimate alliance??? LMAO if you really wanted to play that outdated crap you could just get a older console bro
@@JimBobethatâs literally not for you to decide. He seems genuine, you seem pissed he doesnât agree with you
this game sounds like I'll be watching it completely on CZcams
Yup
exactly what i thought haha
The characters in the menu screen look incredible. 10 out of 10 on character design/aesthetics and animations
Animations alone makes me wanna buy it
@@gleam6370I swear anything will work on children these days
@@keabonhall2436 older than you lol + Iâm an animator
childrens shouldn't tell lies, i'm sure you know better@@gleam6370
You clearly have terrible opinions.
I have a feeling this game is going to have an absolutely microscopic community of players, like single digit players like Marvels Avengers which had a Steam player count of less than 10 by the end of the games life before it was taken offline and digital stores.
Considering itâs the top of pre orders I donât think so. And Iâve played the game for myself
ââ@@ahcongelli8620 being the top of pre orders don't mean much alot of game are on the top of pre orders.
â@ahcongelli8620 pre-ordering digital copies of games is so silly to me. It made sense to pre-order when games were physical copies and you wanted to make sure the store would have a game for you to buy. Now it's just stupid.
@@ahcongelli8620- I donât think itâs anything to go by honestly, I guarantee the micro and macro transactions and battle pass will absolutely kill this game out of the gate. Think of the early access as just an appetizer without the aggressive monetization behind this game, thatâs basically what you got to play.
So I can only imagine what WB has up their sleeves once the game launches, notice they havenât once talked about the monetization of this game at all? Not even once yet itâs a major component of the live service and will be for the planned content roll out of this game over the next year.
Thatâs good, but the point of a live-service isnât just to GET players, but to KEEP them. If it doesnât, itâs failed.
I cannot imagine, as an adult, spending money on a game that is explicitly designed around playing with the same group of friends. It's rare that I get time to play games myself, let alone with the same group of friends, and if we ever do it's maybe one or two hours. This approach to games is perfectly fine for lower priced or free games, but a triple A title really should be fully playable alone or it'll just go the route of really any other fully-priced game that requires a consistent squad
Itâs fully playable alone donât know what your talking about
â@@ahcongelli8620 Did you not watch the video? It's clearly designed around a squad, and because there is a story you can't easily switch out squad members without someone being confused or having to replay parts of an already-monotonous game. I never said it's unplayable solo, just that I would not waste my money on a game that's designed for playing with the same people.
You donât need a consistent squad though
@@daylen577 You're describing every team-based game that is actually built around teamplay. Or are you telling me that random hero shooter pubs have coherent teamwork?
Yea I agree on what you said. As an adult you can't wrap your head around why you would play this. But as a Zoomer, they are gonna love this! I hate the fact that most of studios these days only targeting zoomers(Ubisoft is the big one!). But at least we still have decent studios who care about all the gamers even the OG ones like us who been playing game since I was 8 years old and now 30, and still gaming is my life!
We know, Luke. We fucking knew for awhile lol.
Like years.
Since the leak.
I'm (not) waiting for this game. Another looter shooter from studio that used to make good games, but was milked by corporation (I'm looking at you Arkane)
I will forever be baffled how WB thought this was a good idea to push onto Rocksteady when they already saw how the Avengers game went. Like you think the damn Suicide Squad can make it work when the goddamn Avengers couldn't?
â@@tma2532 This game has been conceptualized and developed for at least 8 years. Avengers came out less than 4 years ago.
â@@rufus52084 years for them to pivot or rework things
â@@rufus5208 that just means they've had almost 4 years to see how poorly this will likely turn out
This game is going to flop in less than a month
Just bcs its not ur cup of tea doesnt mean its a horrible game and would definitely flop
Bro really loves game releases so he can farm drama 24/7. Then when no games release he refarms the drama from older titles. How anyone can stand this dude is beyond me.
Feels so sad. A solid 6/7 from a studio that should be making a 10. Great impressions. These companies don't realize how groundbreaking addictive the game loop has to be to make a real live service.
That's it right there; the gameplay loop. THAT'S what keeps a player coming back for 100+ hours. Corporate doesn't understand that. All they see is paper.
A 6/7 out of 10 is fucking generous, I'd rate it even lower because this is not what the customers wanted nor asked for out of Rocksteady.
And people said the Division was badâŠ.Whilst many never played it,Yet already it had cool physics,Weather systems,Continuous combat updates,Realistic awesome looking map based off an apocalyptic America/Earth,Still untouched as one of the best looter shooters,This game is even worse than Avengers so let that sink in.
They did not even use the combat system from the Arkham games. That is the biggest disgrace.
They are literally known for having a phenomenal combat system that defines their games and they don't use it.
It's like of call of duty removed guns and made a medieval warfare game
Solid 6/7? This shit looks like 3/4
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villan.
After Akham Knight dropped, if you would've told me that Rocksteady's next game would be a looter shooter, I would've spit at your feet and said "GOOD DAY SIR", then walked away.
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It just looks like Crackdown and Sunset Overdrive with DC villains.
That's an insult to both Crackdown and Sunset Overdrive.
â@Giliver I know, my bad bro.
I want single player Batman games to come back and NEVER GO AWAY! There's so much potential for all sorts of Batman games that could be made. They are some of my favorite games
Imagine playing as King Shark and he can't swim in the game.
Now I'm picturing the first time you try to swim in AC1. đ€Ł
@@DubberRucksyeah a highly trained assassin can scale the tallest buildings with ease and jump into some hay lying on the ground without dying but can be defeated by too big a puddle
It's a real shame this is what Rocksteady has been working on as opposed to you know a Superman game...
Superman games are cursed
For some reason, DC has been tryna put all their chips into the suicide squad lately despite them flopping so many times. It literally makes no sense to skip over such household name characters just to jump to a team that hasn't really done the franchise any favors in almost its entire existence.
Edit: I forgot the SS did good with merchandise at one point but that was mainly for the 2016 movie that died out. So yeah, still don't know what DC is thinking
Especially for 9 years straight
Thanks to WB, if rocksteady was able to make the calls on what to make I strongly believe we would've had possibly another incredible single player experience.
@@dixonb.tweenerlegs4225 pretty easy to see what they want, they want an Avengers situation so they can make bank (group of characters so they can make individual movies around each one with merch ect) that is the dumbass money making exec brain at work. Would they make a serious amount of money with a Superman title? Yes, of course but not as much as a game with a battlepass and store if it actually somehow keeps an audience. They are willing to take that chance and burn whole IPs and studios to find that golden egg, to them it is a small price to pay.
The live service aspect is what will and does kill the enjoyment from the sounds of it. I feel Rocksteady will rely on the BP to keep people engaged instead of the game itself. It'll be an MTX hellscape I'm sure of it. They didn't put the store or BP tab during Alpha for a reason because they know it will be a point of contention.
Yep. That inaccessibility of the BP/store stinks of an impending backlash for the nonsense rates corporate will charge.
@@DubberRucks Definitely,People are brainwashed especially the kids.
Pretty sure everyone knew that this was gonna be a blunder since they revealed the battle pass and shop . The only redeeming factor it might have is that itâs being written by whatâs left of rocksteady
That first game play trailer for the game is when I knew. The battle pass is whatever cause I would not even get it regardless. The story seems like it's gonna be the best part of the game.
I new from the get go lol
It sounds like a true example of the battles of corporate vs. artist. There are signs of a really great game, but the corporate profit quota interrupts the artistâs vision. đą
Yeah and it's a shame because this game prob won't be remembered for it's story but for corporate burying it the moment it underperforms.
Praying for Rocksteadyâs recovery/freedom from painfully mid decisions đđœđđœ
I know a lot of people make that quote, but I have a feeling some people really do think the official definition of insanity is âdoing the same thing over again and expecting different resultsâ. Itâs from a quote attributed to Einstein, not an actual definition
I feel like people only say it after playing Far Cry 3 đ
The studio is called Rocksteady but it isnât The Rocksteady that made The Arkham Games. Rocksteady has gotten new leadership and new developers.
You know the arena battle missions in Spider-Man? The ones you do if you really, really like the gameplay and need something to do outside the story? That's what most of the STORY missions feel like in this game. It's the same issue I had with Marvel's Avengers. It got old really quickly because you can be forced to stand in a circle and fight generic goons for only so long.
And this is why we love you luke, you're honest, about the good the bad and the ugly âźïž
When I see Sweet Baby inc is involved, I avoid immediately
imagine if this game was made like the square enix's GOTG game, it was freaking amazing. trend chasing really hurts games so much
YESS That would have been so much better
Think Iâll replay the Arkham series when this comes out in honour of what a good superhero game should be, đ„
Now Iâm really thinking wasnât it even worth it for me to go back to being a gamer I was so much happy now I just be mad cause they dropping so many ass games
So are most of the missions out on the rooftops??! Iâm so confused. What about infiltration? Anything indoors?? Any other objectives than shoot and fly around rooftops?
Exactly. All of the gameplay Iâve seen looks like youâre doing the same thing for every mission. Get on a group of rooftops, defend the area from waves of the same enemies and repeat that
There are indoor missions but a lot of the missions do take place around buildings in the city
There are many different objectives than just shoot like the bat man mission for example.
As you constantly need to jump around I'll say yup rooftops
Was never sold on playing these villains because im not into the alien sci-fi setting. I rather see these characters in something a bit grittier like Asault on Arkham but scaled up!
Imagine if they had made a Green Arrow Black Canary game
Definitely gonna watch the cinematics and understand the story on CZcams and move on
Imagine having to play test this for 10 years while in development
Lol .... probably done with drugs
Imagine, also, if this started life as a narrative driven SP game on conception all that time ago.
@@DubberRucks it most definitely did I think
it boggles my mind how, in a successful studio, in a brainstorm someone said, what if we make a game with 4 playable characters, really going into what makes them unique and giving them playstyles to fit each one, so you get a different experience as all of them.
and quickly after saying that just say, nah just give them all guns makes this a looter shooter with gear drops and floating numbers.
Yikes bro
At this point im convinced people live in willful ignorance or are so high off copium and hope they cant think properly. The moment i saw the announcement for this game and who was making it i KNEW what kind of game it would be. And here we are idk how many years later and its once again true. I truly do not know what people realistically thought was gonna happen.
You haven't seen the extreme copium from morons buying The Day Before, and yes, those that STILL defend the game sayin' "the new devs will pick it up and fix it". Calling them ignorance is an insult to ignorant people, that is willingly get scammed and coping extremely hard to lie to themselves. That is delusional.
It's hilarious that people think you can't judge games based on pre-release and without playing them. I knew what Avengers would be like before it came out, and the open beta proved everything about it. And the way that went was unsurprising and everything about this and GN is very clearly brainless execs who didn't see Avengers fail spectacularly with a brand that hasn't been struggling immensely beyond it's first movie many years ago. One which doesn't have a very positive long term fanbase which is why the sequel reboot thing flopped. And this game will flop too.
If they want to do a live service super hero game, they should make it FUN. First of all. ANd I don't just mean the gameplay, the art design and tone. Fortnite regardless of how you feel about it, has a great art design and by and large has done superheroes far more justice lately than alleged AAA games dedicated to them like Avengers, Gotham Knights and soon Suicide Squad.
If you're not going to make a new Batman, then go for cartoony. Then all the comic book accurate costumes will look good and actually might have wallets opening up.
Sounds like a game that I will just watch a let's play and jumping ahead in the video during the combat
They really should have given us more powerful members of the suicide squad from the comics bc I have a hard time believing that these four alone can kill the entire justice league đ
Why does this game even exist after what happened to Square Enix and the Avengers game?
It was probably already too late to scrap it. They're probably gonna crap this out and try to recoup as much money as possible before they inevitably shut down the servers within a year.
Money.
Sunk cost fallacy, they put too much money into the project so it has to be punted out the door before the end of the fiscal year in hopes that they get some money out of it.
This is where the skepticism comes in. Iâll wait till the price drops and see what the reviews say about it. Thanks again Luke.
It's very much like days gone. Starts very slow and they restrict a whole lot of skills that make it engaging. Zombie hordes with gus and guides your hand alot early on. I only started to have fun after the penguin interaction where I unlocked new skills and grenades. Slow first couple hours then picks up
This seems pretty interesting! It is giving me Avengers vibes tbh. It makes me really nervous. I probably wonât buy this on release it seems like a buy on heavy sale kind of game. So many releases I am more into but this could potentially be good.
Iâve played this and avengers and this is way better
I'm like most of us, I think. I was really excited by the prospect of a Rocksteady Suicide Squad game. It being Kevin Conroy's last performance also had me pretty invested. I don't usually get excited about a big AAA thing, unless it is Doom or a few other series. I let myself get pretty hyped for this. Welp, here we are. It's another one of these. I might check it out when it is discounted just for the story mode...which surely will not be tacked on to herd people online. It's a shame.
Don't @ me with "but real people worked on this and we need to support them!" If you think that a better bottom line is better for the workers in the pits, the people developing these games? You are not paying attention.
As a man ima just move on it broke my heart but thereâs nothing I could do bout it all I can do is get mad but I give them props for going through with the game
So is this just Gotham knights with even less variety in combat?
Suicide Squad is what you get when a company begins with a battle pass then designs a game to support the battle pass.
We just have to come to terms with the fact that this Rocksteady is just not the Rocksteady of the past at all. There won't be any more awesome single-player games from them. Very, very unfortunate.
Plus they'll have an uphill battle getting people to be excited about future SP projects they take on after this.
I feel this game is going to define what we call a Mid game from now on. Games slightly better than this will get called good or decent, games worse than this will be bad or disappointing. This is going to be True Mid
It's going to be peak mid.
It is the midest game of the year!
Indeed great at best mid at worse
Gotham Knights 2.0
@@bradcastlebrry9396that game is so bad that even after 3 years itâs still relevant
Luke, you are so well spoken it was a refreshing pleasure to listen to you. No umms and aahhs, no hype, no catchphrase, no 'like like', just fluent, off the cuff, eloquent dialogue. Well done, you got me very interested... in more of your reviews. As for the game, I don't think it will matter what has been or will be said about it, so many people are looking forward to it, including me, even if only for a couple of hours. I'm sure it will be a success and continue to be developed to an extent so that you will enjoy it again. The alpha is only an alpha, wait for the beta. Here's a quick quote from google "Only functionality and usability are checked during Alpha Testing"
One of the things that made the Arkham games work is that the world was absolutely chock full of characters, and references, and even the generic baddies would have different character and dialogue depending where they were and who they were associated with. Not only does having every generic baddie be a brainwashed Brainiac minion remove that character, but the massive open world seems completely devoid of it too. Iâm glad to see hints of Ivy and Penguin, and I hope thereâs more of that, but I doubt there can be instances of revisiting Calendar man or listening in on goons comparing bosses or worrying about how Joker treats Harley.
And only having the five Justice Leaguers be the main bosses feels a little milquetoast. As you said, Batman was a highlight, but I canât help but think of DC Universe online and how you can go down a street and stumble upon a random fight against Green Arrow and Black Canary, or a random Batfamily member hanging out on a gargoyle. And Metropolis just doesnât have the same cultural prominence as Gotham: thereâs Lexcorp, and the Daily Planet and⊠Star Labs? Er⊠The bar that Bibbo owns? Help me out hereâŠ
All the feedback I've been hearing is that this is exactly the game I thought it was gonna be. I'd be shocked if the live service wasn't an executive having more greed than sense.
"Purple guys with big zits on their back."
- Luke Stephens 2024
And I've been watching zit videos recently đ
They need to rename this game to Suicide Squad Killed the Gaming Studio
Hahaha⊠wow that was so funny đ đđ đ€Šââïžđ
Ngl I did chuckle a little
Tweak your loadouts, get your sets and guns to your playstyle . . . now go shoot purple circles and purple sponges till they ded. . .
Itâs a shame because I feel like there are so many things that looks right. The character models, facial expressions, and energy between the cast members feels so fleshed out that I almost feel like this game shouldâve been smaller scaled and linear.
So this is what I got:
The stuff players and fans ACTUALLY wanted, is very minimal & enjoyable but it gets drowned in the stuff we donât wantđ kind of reminds me of Spider-Man 2 dev mentality right?
Unless itâs on game pass, Iâm not bothering with this stuff. I hear the princess peach game is going to be funđ
Nothing can convince me to buy and play this game for 70$. I wouldnât even play it for free. Iâll just watch cutscenes story and move on to other better games
Lmao fair enough đI might do that tođ
Yep, I'm only interested in the story. Question, who do y'all watch for gaming playthroughs?
Idk I actually liked the game during that alpha test. Maybe not to pay 70 bucks for it, but still enjoyable.
We need to understand this is simply not an Arkham game (which yeah I would've preferred)
Isn't this game part of the Arkhamverse ?
It was advertised as such at one time
But yeah with a trilogy like that I would be harsh too
@@gulgulgulgulgu yeah for what I understand it is in the same world, but I don't feel like they ever try to sell this game as a continuation of that trilogy.
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IMO if the focus was more leaned towards a narrative driven approach with less of a looter shooter theme it would be much better.
Honestly, at this point, the only way this would sell at all is if they sacrifice it and remove ALL microtransactions and release it with all the cosmetics unlockable in game to try to regain some player goodwill for future projects. BG3 has murdered the live service system and the failure of Avengers and hatred this has already received will doom it otherwise.
This is literally the only thing they could do to soften the blow but I have a feeling they'll shut off its servers within a year. Which will make people even more hesitant to buy.
Still looking forward to this game with friends
I always appreciate that you're not afraid of developers "blacklisting" you for your opinion.
This seems to me another game that is just âdumb funâ.
Youâre on the game with your homies, cracking jokes, maybe having a drink, just playing and not really trying to feel anything from the game. Just wasting time away.
And thatâs cool. Nights like those with the boys is cool! Iâd buy itâŠ
For $25 max
10:28 They did on purpose that because of releasing game on Steam.
Rockstar did same with RDR2 with slow paced prologue for 2h expiration so you can't refund the game after knowing how combat and gameplay plays.
It's a scummy practice what EA and Ubi did with couple games years ago.
So for Suicide Squad, I will say the gameplay isn't so bad, I do like the flow of combat even if some if it feels janky like the snap shop when melee and how locked in it feels.
I do like the traversal for all the characters, I think Boomerang and Deadshot have the best, King Shark isn't the best but is the easiest to use. Harley's isn't so great in my opinion since I feel like it isn't as traversal but a nice touch is you can hold the wire, swing and shoot from mid-air.
The slide and perfect landing feels off to me, I can rarely get it right.
The Voice acting is amazing and some of the motion capture is quite good. and the ideas after Arkham Knight is nice, but I kinda wanted a game during that time and hope to see how things became the way it was.
When you pick a character which is somehow annoying to do than it should be, and start match making. If you see 3 Harleys and 1 Shark, your first thought is to swap to even things out and be able to hear different dialogue.
Unless this is a locked feature, but since its 3 months away, you can't switch characters until you leave the session. Like, why?
And the matchmaking is terrible, feels lifeless and it can be abused, I joined a game and this guy purposefully idled and there is nothing that can be done.
I'm most concerned is about the gameplay experience, the loot doesn't feel rewarding or really special. I sometimes forget I can loot things from the ground. And they don't look all that spectacular, because they want to sell cosmetics that look better than what you get in the game.
The menu design feels clunky, feels like a maze for me to navigate especially on PC. And for a PC port they half assed it, the controls is strange...L-Alt is the Dodge button which can be important since it activates other things. Had to rebind it.
And, at least with the introduction missions, the pacing was terrible, you could be doing a longish mission then suddenly doing short ones that are poorly cut off. It felt off to me.
Admittedly, the only thing that would make me want to buy this at the moment is the story and characters of the Justice League.
I've been going through the Borderlands games again and I think those offer more genuine experiences than this. Sure the Borderlands stories, especially 3 can be cringe, but that was back when the looter shooter genre felt new and unique. Diablo with guns and there's plenty of bosses, loot, and skill trees with different playstyles and abilities to level up? I'd rather just do that
Man just wait till you find out this game is literally borderlands but Dc, I donât know why not a single CZcamsr with a voice even mentions thatđđ
This game is very Borderlands - as a big Borderlands fan I think it's why I enjoyed it so much (not really a DC Fan)
It's what i'm thinking when they reveal the gameplay and the features of editing your loadout. The difference with Borderlands that it got its own identity. As a looter shooter, and the world are more linear fulled w content compare to Suicide Squad which is expectedly having a bloated open world. Yea, Borderlands end-game are all about grinding and creating your own-playstyle. People had fun with it. I don't think it's the same with this one tbhâ
Yeah and itâs single player friendly which is why itâs still relevant and fun to play
I didn't play Borderlands 3 due to the Epic exclusivity back in the day and since then I've moved on and played other games. But yeah, I enjoyed Borderlands 1 and I spent thousands of hours and made lots of friends in Borderlands 2... Loved the co-op aspect in those games and if SSKTJL is anything like that, I'd just be down for just a co-op game if anything. I haven't properly played a co-op since Borderlands 2.
I played the beta and actually really enjoyed it. Itâs not what I wanted nor expected from Rocksteady after being a fan since Asylum, but I enjoy the gameplay and think itâll be fun with friends. I genuinely think if a different studio made this exact game thereâs be a whole lot less blow back and more people would be accepting of it, but itâs so different than what Rocksteady has previously put out that itâs only natural for people to be skeptical
Every game is fun with friends. Plus you'd have to somehow convince friends to actually buy this mediocre game.
@@BeHempy Itâs really not that bad, itâs just not the masterpiece that a Rocksteady game should be. Anyone who likes games like Borderlands or the Division will find some kind of enjoyment from this
And destiny â@@TemptationsofaRaggedAngel
It's pretty fascinating how much time and money these studios waste on these games that feel practically DOA....
The concept of this game was so cool to me when it was announced. Suicide Squad going toe to toe with the justice league. But the execution is horrible. They donât even have the characters specialize in their own weaponry but rather random guns
The batman section was awesome. My friends and I loved the surprise of it and I hope there's more like that in the game because if it was like that, and less flip your way to the next checkpoint, it would be awesome
I dont usually play looter shooters. But I have been a fan of Suicide Squad since I was a kid. I typically play games like dragon dogma, witcher, baldur gate, guild wars 2 and ff14. Shooters arent usually my things less cyber punk /mass effect
The live services I am a bit eerie about BUT they are apparently adding an offline mode.
I will give the game a chance because imo it looks fun. By all means it is fine if you dont think the game is your thing. I think for me it will be a change of pace from what I usually play. I think it will be fun for me to play solo and with some friends. Idk if the game is worth 70 though but i do know ... I do wanna play the game. Just dont know if i am willing to pay 70đ
Basically it boils down to will I get my money worth with the game costing 70 .. or wait for a sale. Regardless I will play the game but I may wait for a sale.
I have seen opinions from both sides. I think this will prob be one if thise games that you either really love it or hate it. Could possibly fall into just being mid for but i think it will be one extreme or the other. Just from the different alpha reviews i have seen .
Try Borderlands dude, I'm sure it's under $5. If you actually like that, even solo, you MIGHT like this. Otherwise, it's not worth it. I played the closed technical test. Trust me, if you don't like Borderlands, I highly doubt you'll like this. Very cheap way to see if you'd want to spend anywhere near full price on this lol.
I like the abilities and gameplay! I think wait for the reviews or see if any of your friends play it and see what they think. You can even add me and I'll definitely give my opinion. This game is basically gonna be Sunset Overdrive and Borderlands having a cool baby
"But I have been a fan of Suicide Squad since I was a kid" this is all you had to say, you will buy it ignoring all reviews because it must be different for you somehow and then you will see what others mean and be upset you fell for it. See how that tracks.
@@fish5645 Or maybe he'll like it ! I know a lot of people who liked the closed testing!
Iâm confused why when enemies glow itâs an issue, the Arkham games have basic enemies doing the same thing all the time and it ainât boring. Games like Destiny who are the same concept have been very successful and games like Doom are âoverwhelmingâ but people love them
I feel it's likely less that they glow, and more how the glowing is handled, along with the type of game and such.
Enemies being distinct from eachother is a very important thing so you can easily prioritise targets, judge what they can do at a glance, how many there are, etc, but if you go overboard with glows and such you start muddling these vital visuals.
@@Darca1n from what Iâm seeing, they all have different body builds depending what type of enemy they are
Live service looter shooter + Sweet Baby Inc. had a hand in making it = Easiest no buy ever
Harleyâs face at 3:45 just screams, âWhy are we still here? Just to suffer?â
From my time in the play test I'll say this:
It seems fun when playing with friends (like everything is) and is genuinely a funny game. It is very weird that they set this in the arkham world tbh, nothing other then the references really connected the two. One section has this really cool museum which basically replays the events of the arkham games, it's genuinely really cool and well done but that's kinda it and doesn't really go anywhere, just fan service. The combat was mid imo and the looter shooter aspect feels really generic. I just don't really see the aim of this game, the movement isn't all it's hyped up to be and the combat is as bland as we all said it looked in the trailer and oh lord don't start me on the UI.
Overall its very average, the kind of game you see on gamepass in a year or so and only play with Friends. Super disappointing considering Rocksteads pedigree and how much I love all the arkham games
The tighter lipped a company requires critics and content creators to be when it comes to their game the less I trust it as a whole that it is going to be a good game.
Factsđ€ŠđŸ
Luke you are describing marvel avengers a story that was good (maybe this one is going to be better) with good gameplay but repetitive with no changes from your player but just your weapons and if you want to change your character you have to buy costumes and the ones free are going to be just color swapped ones
Yep, really sounds like Avengers all over againâŠwhy do they never learn? Iâm replaying Arkham Knight right nowâŠand this game still slaps! Why not more of that?!?
Yup same story
In Marvel's Spider-Man you can find every collectible by scanning for scope glint, light sources, and listening for beeping trackers. In Assassin's Creed 1 the rafiq tells you exactly where every mission is during your briefing for the sequence. In Far Cry 5 handcrafted roads lead between missions and rescued civilians will provide valuable information on the local area when questioned. Open world games *very frequently* give you much more information than you actually need, which is why you didn't use any of these and found everything through scanning, climbing viewpoints, and following map markers. In these cases disabling more HUD *improves* your experience. I have to assume impatient people fail to pick up on these design choices during playtesting and they just end up getting band-aid fixed by adding more HUD. Just because there's an obvious or obnoxious way to find something doesn't mean it's the only way to find it
Dang it... Sounds like I would have been happier with the canceled Damien Wayne Batman beyond game...
I had fun with the gameplay and the story so far. I played a lot of the alpha (even got boomerang to the highest âLVLâ you can get. While I donât know if Iâll play much of the end game, I think Iâll have a good time with the game.
Same, though careful, differing opinions donât fare well here
@@cuppedcup5048itâs more the fact we know their potential, as a first entry from a studio sure no qualms buy it if you like the look of it, but weâve gone from Michelin star food to McDonaldâs, sure itâs tasty and mindless but you know what could of beenâŠ
The fact that this game became what it is, really depresses me
We went from "Be the Batman" to "shoot the purple thingy." Not good.
I cant wait to watch all the cutscenes on youtube and call it a day. GG rocksteady
Don't Worry Luke,
I trust you bro. (Source: Trust Me Bro)
Iâm still very excited for this game. To me, the story alone is enough to get me excited and thatâs what Iâm focusing on. The only thing that turns me off is the horrendous HUD display during combat. Apart from that Iâm excited
If the story is all you care about, just watch all the cutscenes on CZcams? Lol. Buying it supports this live-service MTX bs.
@@Paradox-es3bl cry about it , game looks fun
This game looks like trash. I have no idea how u think it looks good at all. Only person thats gonna be crying is you after playing itâ@magnificusdominusduxchad4229
playing a game isn't supporting microtransactions. Buying microtransactions is supporting microtransactions. And you probably play CoD... @@Paradox-es3bl
â@@z0mbiedroper867idk I like how the gameplay looks. Looks like an updated sunset overdrive and I really liked that game as brainless as it really was lol
Imagine a linear single player game about the Suicide Squad, and everytime you die you have to play as a new member of the Squad. Easy mode you'd get 5 life lines per character. Normal you get 3. Hard you get 1. Imagine how awesome that would be. It's also fitting for members of the Squad to die, considering that are called the SUICIDE Squad.
I still can't believe *_THIS_* is the game that freaking *_ROCKSTEADY_* kept us waiting so long for. I couldn't be more disappointed. Even a horrendously bad game would be better than this utterly boring looking gray slog. I seriously can't believe this got all the way to release. They will never see my money for this, and honestly I may never buy another Rocksteady game. At least I'll always have the Arkham games to go back to. đ
Thanks for the coverage, Saul
This feels like one of those âdonât buy it just watch a playthrough on CZcams because the story will be the only good partâ kind of game.