Toronto Condos are too small

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  • čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
  • Toronto Condos are getting smaller. Here's a look at some of the worst/best and smallest studio condos in Toronto
    Explore 3D Toronto: precondo.ca/3d
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Komentáře • 136

  • @stephen-he4iw
    @stephen-he4iw Před měsícem +31

    I hate government over regulation but there's something to be said with the idea of forcing builders to live in the smallest unit of every project for the first year after closing. I think if they actually had to live in it the units would be bigger.

  • @Pink-Sushi-jp
    @Pink-Sushi-jp Před měsícem +44

    It is strange and incomprehensible but Toronto Condos are becoming like Hong Kong.

    • @yungangel9241
      @yungangel9241 Před měsícem +1

      for a person come from Hong Kong, I am really sad to see this happens in Canada

    • @tewekdenahom485
      @tewekdenahom485 Před měsícem

      Don't worry we will move out of this city before buying these ​@@yungangel9241

    • @thespacesbetweenstudio3346
      @thespacesbetweenstudio3346 Před měsícem +2

      at least you get Hong Kong there, not dumpy Toronto

    • @JK-qn9qr
      @JK-qn9qr Před měsícem

      @@thespacesbetweenstudio3346 hong kong is...pretty dumpy.

    • @parkerbohnn
      @parkerbohnn Před 5 dny

      We haven't got to bird cages just yet.

  • @wesbrown738
    @wesbrown738 Před měsícem +16

    Salaries are better in NY NYC, and it is a more international city. Born and raised Torontonian here but we are not NYC nothing in Canada compares sorry . Toronto is more unaffordable when you consider salaries and currencies

    • @deliocomtube
      @deliocomtube Před měsícem +5

      Also realistically I think Chicago is more similar to Toronto for comparison rather than NYC..

    • @tewekdenahom485
      @tewekdenahom485 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@deliocomtubeChicago is more affordable than new York but I see your point

    • @ASoundscapeofOurOwn
      @ASoundscapeofOurOwn Před měsícem +1

      It is a fact that Toronto is less affordable than NYC when comparing avg. salary to avg. home price. That's what people are talking about.

  • @Slickpete83
    @Slickpete83 Před měsícem +31

    *these are like the size of hotel rooms, you might as well add two double beds and put it on AirBnB* lol..

    • @jcsdesign
      @jcsdesign Před měsícem +8

      In some cases, these are actually smaller than a hotel room. It's disgusting.

    • @sshah2545
      @sshah2545 Před 9 dny

      You’re not allowed. You own your property. But you’re not allowed. This whole country is a complete fcukng $h1thole

  • @Cameron_David_
    @Cameron_David_ Před měsícem +16

    Compare a way out suburb of New York to a way out suburb of Toronto and you will see how unaffordable Canada is.

  • @Michael_Livingstone
    @Michael_Livingstone Před měsícem +16

    275 sq foot condo? My bedroom is bigger than that! LOL!

  • @davidrockefeller2007
    @davidrockefeller2007 Před měsícem +4

    I’ve been wondering why there aren’t small condos for sale because. I thought it could solve housing for some but these condos are crazy prices. $350k is what I would expect but $500k is sad news. Amazing video, and I really like this presenter.

  • @lolmagus3974
    @lolmagus3974 Před měsícem +7

    great video!
    some feedback on the 3D map:
    - a legend would be nice to explain building colours
    - some overlays:
    - transit (with GTFS data)
    - zoning
    - density heat map (population? )
    - more landmarks like school campuses

  • @theloniuspoon
    @theloniuspoon Před měsícem +12

    yeah we're not NYC level but nyc has way higher wages there's finance bros there doing like 1m salary they can borderline justify a place like that

  • @DokisKalin1
    @DokisKalin1 Před měsícem +4

    The first unit is 12×12 room so to have a bed you'd need to remove not only the coffee table but the TV and the table behind it to still have room for the kitchen and walking space. It's actually completely unworkable. We are creating the slums of the future.

  • @vhateverlie
    @vhateverlie Před měsícem +5

    Yeah $200k is a lot for those shoeboxes but i could reasonably see that as a new working professional option. At $600k+ I'm not entirely sure what kind of jobs you have out their to be able to ever afford that let alone a future of having a family.

  • @ryancraig2795
    @ryancraig2795 Před měsícem +2

    The only reason anyone would be willing to buy most of these places at these prices is, as someone else said, either as an Airbnb rental and/or speculation. Most of them can't even pull in enough money as a rental to cover the mortgage, property tax and condo fees, a sure sign that something is out of whack.

  • @OnTheWay978
    @OnTheWay978 Před měsícem +6

    We got rate cut finally, now can have milk as breakfast, not just water

  • @Slimecrazy234
    @Slimecrazy234 Před měsícem +4

    Square footage figures include the walls so the unit at 9:55 is significantly smaller than the square footage implies with those thick walls eating into it.

    • @CorporateShill66
      @CorporateShill66 Před měsícem +1

      Yep, if they measured living space, every condo would be 25% smaller

    • @Slimecrazy234
      @Slimecrazy234 Před měsícem +1

      @@CorporateShill66 So many scams in this industry. These developers need a wake up call.

  • @CorporateShill66
    @CorporateShill66 Před měsícem +3

    400 sqft is luxury now

  • @25jai123
    @25jai123 Před měsícem +3

    Loved the rants during this video haha. Some of these 1700PSF studios seem expensive right now given the market. But with the gap in new construction starts vs population growth, I wonder if they will end up being good investments (like your example) in 2028/29

    • @CorporateShill66
      @CorporateShill66 Před měsícem

      4 years is not a long enough timeframe. You'll be lucky if they are worth what you paid for these precons

  • @winchangkou
    @winchangkou Před měsícem +1

    Would there be any value for these studio apt in future. Btw excellant video

  • @flanflanjp_
    @flanflanjp_ Před měsícem +1

    This isn't Hong Kong, Tokyo, or London. We don't even have fantastic restaurants or serviceable transit systems here. It'll take you an hour to get where you want to go. Most the city is run down or cosmopolitan. Immigration/housing demand is insane!

  • @johnk2657
    @johnk2657 Před měsícem +1

    terrible returns on these if bought 10-12 years ago. 6% barely with huge transaction costs, maintenance fees, property taxes, not sure what the point of buying these is.

  • @jamesbrock1883
    @jamesbrock1883 Před měsícem +1

    Would be neat to add the TTC tram and subway routes so you can see how far the buildings are from substantial transit infrastructure

  • @mj.ca818
    @mj.ca818 Před měsícem

    Very creative video poster, it tells you all. Love it 👊🏻

  • @adibsapida
    @adibsapida Před měsícem +2

    How are people getting mortgages for smaller units? TD Bank told me that anything under 430sqf is not a good investment for them and requires a significant downpayment.

    • @arguin
      @arguin Před měsícem +1

      laundered chinese money

  • @clemlowes9417
    @clemlowes9417 Před měsícem +2

    I would move out of the Country for a spacious and luxurious condo at $800,000 CAD rather than move into a shoeboxe in Toronto. I'm looking at you Dubai. Already doing my homework.

  • @jacobgoerz1953
    @jacobgoerz1953 Před měsícem +1

    As for the map, an FPV view from the units window or balcony.

  • @VancityAnu
    @VancityAnu Před měsícem +2

    when are you doing the vancouver? I did check out Toronto & its impressive!

    • @Precondo
      @Precondo  Před měsícem

      not planning Vancouver unfortunately, the data we need isn't provided

  • @MrBojo-jv4qq
    @MrBojo-jv4qq Před měsícem

    The same is with vehicles with the exception of pickup trucks. Even though they look big on the outside, inside the leg room is almost the same. I was looking to buy an suv and checked out 5 different brands hybrids, all small inside.

  • @bethodonoghue4774
    @bethodonoghue4774 Před měsícem +1

    For the model a compass and labeling of main streets would help people

  • @TDRE88
    @TDRE88 Před měsícem +7

    People are crazy there should be rules for how small a unit can be this is purely greed

  • @om30479
    @om30479 Před měsícem

    Some feedback on the 3D tool. Can you expand it to urban centres in the GTA where 4-5 condo projects are happening each year?

  • @Nathan-L
    @Nathan-L Před měsícem

    LOL love the thumbnail 😂🙌

  • @agoogleuser402
    @agoogleuser402 Před měsícem +3

    I think they should legislate minimum sizes for condos. I don't think any unit should be smaller than 650 sq ft. Developers are still making a profit if they make the units bigger. They also need more family sized units of 3+ bedrooms.

  • @guyfantastico8268
    @guyfantastico8268 Před měsícem

    how will king toronto look in the winter when nothing is green?

  • @nafizhasan4349
    @nafizhasan4349 Před měsícem +3

    less that 300 sq ft is not livable

  • @peterbanh1364
    @peterbanh1364 Před měsícem

    Super small but still liveable for single people but the price is way too high for what it is. If the cost is in the range of $700-$1000/sqf including a parking spot then it is worth it.

  • @user-ub1gz8lx8c
    @user-ub1gz8lx8c Před měsícem

    The amount of condos I've seen where a bedroom doesn't even have a window is outrageous. People are literally living worse than prisoners in Toronto and paying out the ass to do it.

  • @Espacemtl
    @Espacemtl Před měsícem

    Art Gallery? - the marketing co should be given a medal

  • @TheFinancialDrop
    @TheFinancialDrop Před měsícem +2

    For people whom have a bit of money and don't want to spend $$ on a full proper size condo can use these units for a weekend place to stay/ f*** pad. Other than that these are just an Air B&B investment condo. No one would make this their permanent res

    • @44magdeagle
      @44magdeagle Před měsícem

      Cheaper to just get a hotel 😂

  • @K81Patel
    @K81Patel Před měsícem +1

    Im calling HR on both you and @TomStorey, immediately!

    • @K81Patel
      @K81Patel Před měsícem

      Beautiful website 🤩

  • @andre97621
    @andre97621 Před měsícem

    Heatd anything about Mobilio condos by Menkes in Vaughah?

  • @Blakpepa
    @Blakpepa Před měsícem

    I'll never forget when these shoe box condos were "all the rage". They built these shoeboxes targeting wealthy international students and asians looking for a Toronto address. All the lenders pulled out and won't mortgages these undignified shoeboxes anymore

  • @kathrynlegear2865
    @kathrynlegear2865 Před měsícem

    We are not even in the top 10 cities world wide - New York is number 1 - I’m surprised we are even this close in price !

  • @johnnyboyvan
    @johnnyboyvan Před měsícem +4

    Love it! I live in 800 Sq ft and don't use the dining area. Such a waste of space.

    • @boi0330
      @boi0330 Před měsícem +1

      The audacity…

  • @johnsutherland7561
    @johnsutherland7561 Před měsícem +1

    I think I'd rather live by square 1 than down town personally

  • @Rey-is1eq
    @Rey-is1eq Před měsícem +1

    200k$ invested in s&p500 since 2011 would be 1mil$ today tho... "worked out pretty well" is relative.

    • @Precondo
      @Precondo  Před měsícem +4

      yeah but most who bought the $200K studio would have put 40K down, not 200, + positive cash flow

  • @trevors1410
    @trevors1410 Před měsícem +1

    If you ever had a gold fish you will know that over feeding kills the fish you want to keep them hungry so they live longer plus they will only get as big as the tank

  • @jeffburke170
    @jeffburke170 Před měsícem

    LOFL: shoebox index! Priceless

  • @MangoFlamingo
    @MangoFlamingo Před měsícem +1

    299sqft is the new luxury

  • @vhateverlie
    @vhateverlie Před měsícem +1

    Wait so my county doesn't let me build small building to live in with water and sewer because it doesn't meet code. But you're telling me our capital city is crapping out this monstrosities? At least prison provides you food...

  • @rdefacendis
    @rdefacendis Před měsícem

    some feedback on the 3D map:
    1/ swivel tool is clunky... I couldn't figure it out... consider implementing swivel similar to Apple or Google Maps to spin your map around so we can look for example southward or eastward...
    2/ Consider a layer that you can turn on and off that labels landmarks - you can start small e.g ROM, ScotiaBank Area, Jack Layton Ferry Terminal, Rogers Centre etc... for downtowners who know the city well... they should be able to turn it off.. for those who don't know the city ... a very useful tool to assess location of a condo development.
    3/ The one building I was interested in - blue colored- ... has a dead link...no info. Its the building on the north side of Front across the street from the upcoming Union Park development...

  • @kathrynlegear2865
    @kathrynlegear2865 Před měsícem

    89 Avenue Rd - is a senior apt !

  • @TDRE88
    @TDRE88 Před měsícem

    Would it be a lot of work to add the streets to the 3d view?

    • @Precondo
      @Precondo  Před měsícem

      no we can definitely do that

    • @TDRE88
      @TDRE88 Před 20 dny

      @@Precondo keep up the good work even though we all watch in hopes to make money aswell

  • @DiggyT
    @DiggyT Před měsícem +2

    Back in the day boomers would have laughed and offered a 100K. Now people are scrambling for prison cells.

  • @kathrynlegear2865
    @kathrynlegear2865 Před měsícem

    Why don’t you do a video on why we have this - micro apartment problem - how did this happen ?

    • @4spooky8u
      @4spooky8u Před měsícem

      Investors are the ones buying these. They don't care about the layout because they aren't living in it. They just want the best deal.

  • @ragingfred
    @ragingfred Před měsícem

    Just recently I bought a 900 sqft house, detached with a yard and basement, for less than these and it wasn't even in bumf**k nowhere. Moral of the story is leave Toronto 😂

  • @helifynoe9930
    @helifynoe9930 Před měsícem

    These days, being disabled does have its bright side. Okay, so I live in a 550+ square foot apartment on the second floor in east Scarborough, and it has a nicely carpeted living room, hallway, and bedroom. Non-carpeted rooms, are the bathroom, kitchen, and furnace room. So, 1 months rent, times 12 months, times 20 years, adds up to a total rent cost of $33,600. Yep a fixed $140 per month rent for 20 years. However, once I hit 65, the disability support income stopped and so the rent went up to just under $700 due to me now having a CPP OAS/GIS income. Anyhow, $33,600 to cover 20 years rent, ain't all that bad. YeeHaaa

    • @CommoditySC
      @CommoditySC Před měsícem

      So you're happy about other Canadians paying for you to live lol? Probably wouldn't want to live if i was just a useless leech tbh. Zero chance Id make it 2 years let alone 20.

  • @zeshaanali8157
    @zeshaanali8157 Před měsícem +1

    I grew up here all my life, my friends make 150k a year and you think we're going to waste money on a condo? Nahhh only the sheep will buy it

  • @jameslascelle9453
    @jameslascelle9453 Před měsícem

    Small unit build to rent skyscrapers will be the future of Toronto and most cities in Canada.

  • @thunderbird4709
    @thunderbird4709 Před měsícem

    Why does Vancouver have better condos than Toronto? Toronto condos have small appliances and electric stoves l. Vancouver condo kitchens usually have gas stoves and full size kitchens.

  • @trevorgwelch7412
    @trevorgwelch7412 Před měsícem +1

    It's better to live in a tent in a park 😊

  • @foghornleghorn5140
    @foghornleghorn5140 Před měsícem

    A decently laid out tiny condo really Isn’t that bad for a single person who wants to live simple. What’s ridiculous is the outrageous price and crappy workmanship.

  • @ilikeshroomgals
    @ilikeshroomgals Před měsícem +1

    These are just going to drive more people out of the 416.

  • @eric2005
    @eric2005 Před měsícem

    Hahahah
    Get me in touch so I can hire them!

  • @ThePolaris87
    @ThePolaris87 Před 14 dny

    What is the actual point to building these in the first place, who would bother buying these?

  • @heoTheo
    @heoTheo Před měsícem

    575 :O unbelievable haha

  • @EricAlHarb
    @EricAlHarb Před měsícem

    Done! Stick a fork in the market!

  • @mmakeyboardwarrior4646
    @mmakeyboardwarrior4646 Před měsícem +1

    Imagine working all those hours saving up for a prison cell

  • @moneekdilawari4508
    @moneekdilawari4508 Před měsícem +1

    Norwegian prisons are better than these, and cost just one flight and a fight.

  • @TechSuportScamer
    @TechSuportScamer Před měsícem

    "You will own nothing and be happy"

  • @mikedarling905
    @mikedarling905 Před měsícem

    boxes little boxes. lol

  • @ragingchimera8021
    @ragingchimera8021 Před měsícem

    No one actually wants to live in one of these things. Toronto is a skyline full of little boxes of misery.

  • @vert911
    @vert911 Před měsícem +2

    come on Jordan - you know there are places in the world where these are considered large.

    • @Precondo
      @Precondo  Před měsícem +1

      I know

    • @CommoditySC
      @CommoditySC Před měsícem

      But are they high tax, freezing, boring & full of undesirables? Nope.

    • @vert911
      @vert911 Před měsícem

      @@CommoditySC You haven't been to NYC lately I guess.

    • @CommoditySC
      @CommoditySC Před měsícem

      @@vert911 I've seen the numbers, much better weather, higher wages, lower tax, food, etc. More stuff to do than maybe anywhere on the planet. Less loser immigrants.

  • @CristianEnacheRealtor
    @CristianEnacheRealtor Před měsícem

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    Hypocrites? Misleading? Looking for followers only? Telling half of the truth to build their brand? Who knows?
    BUT I KNOW. :)

  • @roundray7876
    @roundray7876 Před 20 dny

    prison cell index lol

  • @falsepositive4357
    @falsepositive4357 Před měsícem

    Id rather sleep under a tree.

  • @steeler5563
    @steeler5563 Před měsícem

    Dog crate in the sky...

  • @bryankerr9174
    @bryankerr9174 Před měsícem

    And there's drug addicts to great you outside the main entrance.

  • @terced847
    @terced847 Před měsícem

    MAKE THE NORWEGIAN PRISON CELL INDEX GREAT AGAIN

  • @desertseatingoceans
    @desertseatingoceans Před 22 dny

    Who is buying these shitty condos?

  • @JaBlanche
    @JaBlanche Před měsícem

    Nobu is terrible

  • @adamnarbeaux5898
    @adamnarbeaux5898 Před měsícem

    Ok Now please put Nobu on the map!! She deserves at least that much!!

    • @Precondo
      @Precondo  Před měsícem

      we're on it just for you Adam

    • @adamnarbeaux5898
      @adamnarbeaux5898 Před měsícem

      @@PrecondoYOU da Best!! Hey, whatever happened to the building overlooking the beach in the west that you told me was a great end user building? Italian builder. What are they selling per foot these days?

  • @Al-McGregor
    @Al-McGregor Před měsícem +3

    In Europe these units size is completely against the law, but this is the shithole of the world.

    • @Precondo
      @Precondo  Před měsícem

      what are you on about? google for 2 mins you'll find a plethora of 150-200sqft apartments in Germany

    • @Al-McGregor
      @Al-McGregor Před měsícem

      @@Precondo you are just ignorant, is there only Germany in Europe??? I am speaking about civil country, try to find that garbage in Italy, Spain, France, etc.

    • @Al-McGregor
      @Al-McGregor Před měsícem +1

      @@Precondo not only you are ignorant, you also confuse square feet with square meters.

    • @Precondo
      @Precondo  Před měsícem +2

      @@Al-McGregor hey dork - 20 sq meters is 215 sq ft and Germany has apartments that small

    • @Al-McGregor
      @Al-McGregor Před měsícem

      @@Precondo get out of the shithole where you are living and learn how to do research, in Italy, for example, is the minimum requirement for a studio 28 sm. NET and 45 sm. Net for 1 bdr, many regulations are in place all around Europe.