The Cult in a Boarding School

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  • In the early 1970s, an institution named The Elan School opened its doors. Behind the altruistic veil of its marketing, daily life at Elan would prove to be much more dreadful than advertised.
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Komentáƙe • 18K

  • @dabawanico5841
    @dabawanico5841 Pƙed 2 lety +55568

    Hey guys! Fun fact! The "troubled teen" industry still exists and kids are still legally kidnapped to attend these camps just in case anyone was wondering.

    • @caz8577
      @caz8577 Pƙed 2 lety +4820

      As someone who was labeled a troubled kid. I went to something very similar to this. Describing these as death camps is very closed minded

    • @dabawanico5841
      @dabawanico5841 Pƙed 2 lety +2178

      @@caz8577 sorry I didn't mean it like the literal meaning, meant as an expression.

    • @dabawanico5841
      @dabawanico5841 Pƙed 2 lety +1101

      @@caz8577 edited to remove it

    • @caz8577
      @caz8577 Pƙed 2 lety +789

      @@dabawanico5841 thanks.

    • @AlexJade
      @AlexJade Pƙed 2 lety +648

      Yup, and sometimes the camps are not even in the US

  • @SpicyMediaReal
    @SpicyMediaReal Pƙed 2 lety +12130

    Let's be fair, any parent who signs their child away knowing they will be kidnapped at night is a pretty shitty parent to begin with.

    • @lilorin1516
      @lilorin1516 Pƙed 2 lety +770

      Thank fucking god you said that, I also keep a knife under my pillow all the time so if that’d happened to me someone may have died. An it’d all to be blamed on the parents, I’m sure there’s others who do the same

    • @birdsamora9925
      @birdsamora9925 Pƙed 2 lety +287

      @@lilorin1516 I'm gonna start putting brass knuckles under my pillow.

    • @neo2393
      @neo2393 Pƙed 2 lety +117

      @@lilorin1516 yep keep a knife with you at all times.

    • @neo2393
      @neo2393 Pƙed 2 lety +11

      @@birdsamora9925 yeeeeaaah boi.

    • @quackjemceend4797
      @quackjemceend4797 Pƙed 2 lety +193

      @@lilorin1516 I always had this chilhood fantasy of escaping a really strict, prison like boarding school like this one, just to be able to say ''f u, i finally did it'' to the people in charge. After seeing this im just glad i was never really put into such a situation. Like you, i also sleep with a knife within arms reach.

  • @chaptap8376
    @chaptap8376 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +4448

    "And some students sent in the ring were even pregnant."
    Considering students were restricted from any physical contact, and that the adult abusers could punish the children however they wanted... That alone is extremely horrifying despite how understated it is.

    • @f1charlie15
      @f1charlie15 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci +318

      oh my god didnt even catch this...wow that is sickening

    • @asoggyflipflop
      @asoggyflipflop Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +134

      Oh my god that’s fucking horrifying

    • @onieni9779
      @onieni9779 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +41

      Christ...

    • @johnvinson5769
      @johnvinson5769 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +48

      How could students even get away with making contact with the opposite sex, let alone *have* sex? Everything was so closely monitored with only three semi-successful escapes, it’s crazy to believe people found a way to do it.
      Edit: A lot of people are saying it was more likely SA from the staff, which makes sense.

    • @quickman1047
      @quickman1047 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +140

      Given that’s it a place for troubled teens I would presume those people were pregnant before they arrived. At least I sure hope so cuz the alternative is horrific to think about

  • @STQP455S
    @STQP455S Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +1875

    I went to this school. It’s been 25 years, I still can’t just sit down and watch this, but I scrubbed through it and read the transcript - your presentation looks very good and thorough and accurate, and you seem to have a very gentle and thoughtful way of presenting it. Thank you for sharing our story with others. These schools cause long term, complicated harm.

    • @tahiratier
      @tahiratier Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +91

      Hey, I hope your doing well now. ❀

    • @Onyx560
      @Onyx560 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci +49

      Bless your soul I hope you’re finding peace!

    • @dreamingdawns
      @dreamingdawns Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci +32

      This made me cry, i hope you got the support you needed

    • @barristanselmy2758
      @barristanselmy2758 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +15

      I hope your doing well now. Your strong for surviving such a hellscape. Proud of you stranger.

    • @Quaxo21
      @Quaxo21 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +10

      I’m so sorry that you had to go
      There :( it sounds horrible

  • @ionceateapinecone
    @ionceateapinecone Pƙed 2 lety +10958

    “You want to act like a baby, you get screamed at”
    Pretty sure you aren’t supposed to scream at babies.

    • @bdorsey19
      @bdorsey19 Pƙed 2 lety +536

      Yea you kick them wtf

    • @frchiccfffctc2494
      @frchiccfffctc2494 Pƙed 2 lety +281

      Obviously you punt them.

    • @cubeofmeat4982
      @cubeofmeat4982 Pƙed 2 lety +312

      You eat them

    • @bdorsey19
      @bdorsey19 Pƙed 2 lety +87

      Both of you good responses, tho if you punt them they go too far and if you eat them (unless alive, where it is just as good, or better sometimes, better) you don’t get the screams of pain, far better than crying

    • @meric2
      @meric2 Pƙed 2 lety +154

      @@bdorsey19 Classical thought tells us to shake the baby.

  • @CapnJigglypuff
    @CapnJigglypuff Pƙed 2 lety +5853

    “Joe Ricci was diagnosed with lung cancer.”
    That’s good!
    “He only suffered with it for six months.”
    That’s bad.

    • @seabreeze9296
      @seabreeze9296 Pƙed 2 lety +380

      he's the subject of that eternal "General Meeting" down below

    • @yellmo4852
      @yellmo4852 Pƙed 2 lety +465

      I was genuinely pissed when I found out he died and didn't get his ass kicked by the legal system (or fuck any thing really)

    • @minacapella8319
      @minacapella8319 Pƙed 2 lety +174

      I wish i personally could have helped him leave this plane of existence, slowly. So many kids suffering through the damage he inflicted until their eventual deaths. People like that are the worst.

    • @MrNuts70
      @MrNuts70 Pƙed 2 lety +19

      This reminds me of when Homer Simpson bought that crazy haunted Krusty the Clown Doll! hahaha

    • @fendy5124
      @fendy5124 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@seabreeze9296 i really fucking hope so

  • @MythicalRedFox
    @MythicalRedFox Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +767

    Charges not even being _filed_ against the school for the death of the kid shows how complicit the parents are in this: they didn't even care.

    • @woofwuf
      @woofwuf Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +53

      Those weren’t parents. They were just some people who gave birth to the kid. They didn’t care.

    • @velvetfont_
      @velvetfont_ Pƙed 5 dny

      The place I was at a kid actually died, it was under adolescent DOC star academy Custer SD look it up. No one got sued and the staff write on their LinkedIn profiles about how fulfilling it was as a job. It’s a fucked world, man. Unfortunately you can’t sue in every case and expect it to bring back a dead child

  • @anoeticangel
    @anoeticangel Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +4665

    I was sent to a facility like this when I was 14. I'm in my 40s now and the trauma of the facility still impacts me and my relationships, my habits, my trust, and my behavior to this day. Even thinking of it still causes a feeling of searing panic in my stomach. The facility closed this year and there's almost nothing that has made me as happy as finding that out. The way these facilities abuse and isolate you for the rest of your life can't be explained

    • @ranjittyagi9354
      @ranjittyagi9354 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +88

      I am sorry, Doll. God bless you. You ain't alone, remember this.

    • @Smooburticus
      @Smooburticus Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +65

      I had to go to a mental hospital in highschool where I actually got worse instead of the help I needed. I can vividly remember hearing over the radio in someone else's car about 5-6 years later that they closed down the children's ward of the hospital due to not following a lot of requirements and a lot of legal things as well. I almost broke down crying in the backseat, I was so relieved.
      Ironically, I found out a bit into our relationship that my partner actually also went to the same place a year or two before I did, and he echoed my hatred for the place, and my joy in its closure.

    • @Andrew_Ryan_Says
      @Andrew_Ryan_Says Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +27

      I feel you. I had a similar experience with a facility like this. We were in the middle of a national park and it was at least an hour and a half from civilization, so they didn't even put up a fence around the facility because if you wanted to escape you would have to brave the wilderness. Me and a friend attempted to escape, we survived for a few days in the woods before we turned back because we had no food and eating squirrels and birds only gets you so far. After 10 months I finally got to leave because I started trying to get into the Navy.
      I really think the armed forces pull quite a few of their recruits from Job Corps. Most kids would rather take their chance in the military than stay in those places.

    • @ranjittyagi9354
      @ranjittyagi9354 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +3

      @@Andrew_Ryan_Says I read your comment. Though, I'm writing after finishing a whole bottle nearly, I understand you. God bless you and keep you safe. 😇🙏

    • @cleliamoulin9250
      @cleliamoulin9250 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +6

      I know this bares little weight but I am so terribly sorry you had to go through this...I can't imagine the pain you must feel

  • @emt0kyo
    @emt0kyo Pƙed 2 lety +23516

    This ‘troubled teen’ industry is absolutely still alive and there are probably thousands of teens who are facing similar treatment today. Advocating against this industry is just as important as ever.

    • @kevindube7096
      @kevindube7096 Pƙed 2 lety +490

      I haven’t looked into it yet, but I imagine this place wasn’t the first and like you said, it definitely wasn’t the last... but it does seems like this one place had a whole lot of influence on the spread of traumatic abuse under the guise of discipline

    • @shirolock8740
      @shirolock8740 Pƙed 2 lety +459

      It happens in mental health clinics too I’ve been to 3 in my life time and all have been the same demoralization 0 help and nothing but fear.

    • @jccannon9136
      @jccannon9136 Pƙed 2 lety +226

      I was one of them, i was gone for three years and it was SO crazy that he made a video about this and this topic is finally making some light

    • @jccannon9136
      @jccannon9136 Pƙed 2 lety +13

      @@josephang9927 ?

    • @goopi_eh
      @goopi_eh Pƙed 2 lety +19

      @@josephang9927 Aren't you gross.

  • @aron1089
    @aron1089 Pƙed 2 lety +8546

    The parents are at fault for this still existing, if your kid is acting inappropriately, then take him to therapy, not a "camp"

    • @TheEnabledDisabled
      @TheEnabledDisabled Pƙed 2 lety +659

      Or maybe try to be a parent, yeah lest trust this camp to make our kid better with a bunch of promises

    • @dalriadajohannsen
      @dalriadajohannsen Pƙed 2 lety +256

      I agree with both of you to a degree. Some have tried all things possible and trust the wrong people. I had my oldest at 15, effectively ruining his and my childhood. I had a very angry child on my hands and was in no condition to help him as I became mentally disabled. My mom talked me into enrolling him into a Christian school for a couple months. He lived there with a nuclear family and structure. We thought he thrived đŸ€·đŸ»â€â™€ïž He's 27 now. He recently told me that the only thing the school did was introduce him to gangs. He continued being a lost, angry child until I grew up and bonded with him. He doesn't act out anymore and is a loving respectful son. I don't know why I'm saying this, I've never told anyone. I guess I'm trying to say that every decent parent wants the best for their child. Sometimes circumstances don't allow the best unfortunately. One Love 💛

    • @dalriadajohannsen
      @dalriadajohannsen Pƙed 2 lety +183

      P. S. It wasn't my decision to get pregnant at 14. It was a 26 yo mans. I had no parents around. So please don't say I should have thought about this before I got pregnant. I was forced into SA. I kept my beautiful baby 💞 Thank you đŸŒč

    • @atroubledmaker6091
      @atroubledmaker6091 Pƙed 2 lety +90

      To be fair, even as someone sent to one of these places, the parents are often lied to and defrauded and never know. Communication is censored, there's no phone to call for help, and parents are instructed to believe the child is being "manipulative" if they ever complain.
      Sometimes you have to basically lie to get out and the parents have no idea. However, once they actually go on campus and experience one of the "seminars" and aren't horrified, then I'm truly concerned about their critical thinking skills. Within hours of that seminar a parent should be leaving and taking their child with them.
      In WWASP facilities these were performed under the group Resource Realizations by David Gilcrease. The T.A.S.K.S. trainings. There were some that even included r*pe re-enactments as attack therapy. These places were gulags.
      Also many children sent there do not realize they are being abused until years later. It's taken some 20 years to fully understand. I understood quickly and tried to inform others that I attended with and was actually attacked and criticized for doing so. That was in 2009. I attended one of these places in 1999-2002.

    • @dalriadajohannsen
      @dalriadajohannsen Pƙed 2 lety +28

      @@atroubledmaker6091 this is true and it scares me to find out more from my son in the future.

  • @toon-it-out
    @toon-it-out Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +991

    I was in one similar to this. Was forced to strip naked and lay on a cold hard floor for hours in a tiny 8x8 square room that was padlocked. There was a tiny window where staff would watch me. And it was cold. No blanket, nothing. No underwear or socks either. First time I got put in there, I got a cold because of it. The reason? I was feeling suicidal (which was completely valid considering the circumstances), and they encourage you to talk to staff when you feel that way so they can "talk you down". Turns out that actually means throwing you butt naked into a cold room with concrete floors.
    Girls would frequently be stripped naked by or under the eye of male staff. I was 15. Others were much younger. Some were adults under 21 that were wards of the state.
    They made us wear plain blue shirt and pants, unless you were a "runner", then you were stuck in a bright yellow jumpsuit. Those sucked really bad during the summer because it was long sleeved.
    There were community showers and toilets like prison with scheduled use times, we walked in a line to and from the cafeteria and to the on-site school building, got locked into our rooms multiple times a day for hours with nothing in there but a Bible and our beds, were forced to be active outside for hours in the heat of summer with no consistent source of water. It was hidden way out in the middle of the woods in Rural Missouri where it was sure to go unseen by the outside world.
    We were allowed one 10-minute phone call per week, so we could choose to either call our caseworkers and beg for another placement, or spend 10 minutes talking with a loved one. The woman who decided everything for us was the most heartless person I've ever met. She was abusive to everyone, even staff members. She would smile when something bad happened to a child in front of her. I saw it
    If a kid had a breakdown, they called in the "crisis van", which was a van full of strong men who would physically subdue the resident, often painfully for the resident.
    I am severely traumatized and was physically injured more than once, as well as psychologically abused. I have been unable to find a therapist or drug yet that can help me.
    The reason I was there? I was a foster kid with depression, and they didn't want to take the time to find me a foster family. Sadly this was the case for many other children I met there. And I went to multiple facilities like it, but this was by far the worst. Valley Springs Youth Ranch in Black/Lesterville, Missouri. They paint themselves as a "treatment facility" for troubled youth, but it's really just legal child trafficking. Don't send your kids away. Become foster parents for teens if you can. And most importantly, hold these people and facilities accountable.

    • @washero
      @washero Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci +81

      This was heartbreaking to read. I am so sorry for whatever you had to go through. I know a "sorry" won't help much. I am a teen and I can't imagine a life where my basic human rights were just snatched from me. I really hope you recovered and that your traumatic experiences don't haunt you as much today.

    • @anonymixx8106
      @anonymixx8106 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +26

      Thank you so much for sharing your story. A major reason I specifically want to foster and adopt teen children, despite many people saying it would be very difficult is because of this. Foster children in general are overlooked enough as it is, and teenagers hardly ever even get a second glance because so many people are just looking for a child they can mold into something they want.

    • @solidway
      @solidway Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +10

      Thanks for sharing the name of the facility.

    • @elysetroubadour6117
      @elysetroubadour6117 Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci +10

      I went through the same things. Amazing how similar the programming is in every one of these places, no matter where in the US they are. There are many similarities to prison procedures, including the self-harm protocol. But these schools likely have even less regulation, as they're private institutions. Willow Springs in Reno/Sparks, NV; Thunder Road in Oakland, CA; Heritage Oaks "Hospital" in Sacramento, CA. WS and HO both had pediatric wings, and WS frequently placed small children in solitary confinement. We could hear them screaming from the adolescent wing.
      People with addictions and behavioral/mental health issues (real or perceived) are heavily stigmatized and given a degraded social status in the US, despite the progress we've made as a society in terms of acceptance and treatment. We need twice the amount of hard evidence proving abuses like these for anyone to even consider taking us seriously. In addition, few people are even concerned about what goes on in these facilities because of the kinds of people that are affected. It's the same belief that keeps our jails and prisons as inhumane as possible. It's based on a self-righteous narrative of "individual responsibility" that's contributed to the decay or disappearance of most of America's social services, public and private. "They must have done something to get themselves put in Elan, so they deserve whatever punishment they get." And that continues to be the dominant narrative in the US despite all evidence pointing to the ineffectiveness of punitive behavioral treatments.

    • @xplinux22
      @xplinux22 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +5

      This just makes me blood-boilingly angry to read, the horrors you were forced to endure. I was already familiar with these types of facilities, and reading this, I feel a strong sense of vengeance (for lack of a better word) for these horrible programs and the immense social, emotional, and psychological damage they do to innocent children and to society. These flagrant constitutional and human rights abuses need to be fucking stopped, and it's disgusting they still operate to this day in the United States. I'm so sorry you had to go through all this. ❀ May future generations avenge you legally, and get these places shut down forever.

  • @magicvibrations5180
    @magicvibrations5180 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +588

    It's insane that parents are so comfortable with not being able to contact their kids. I went to a boarding school which was the polar opposite of this (voluntary, fun, a place to explore who you are and break rules with other kids for a year) and the only reason my parents let me go was because they had seen it with their own eyes, could communicate with me all they wanted, and got to go home every few weeks. How could any parent just send their kid across state lines and let them stay there for years with limited communication? Makes me sick.

    • @itzznoahh
      @itzznoahh Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +82

      The parents didn’t care about their kids. They sent them off to be trained like dogs instead of doing their duty and raising them. Simple as that.

    • @animkali5998
      @animkali5998 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +4

      Please name the place

    • @ElvenAngel
      @ElvenAngel Pƙed měsĂ­cem +8

      I was just thinking about this. I watched this with my mum and the first thing she commented, after her initial shock was "How on earth does any parent handle being unable to check on their child???" It's really a stark difference that's made me wonder if the US parent-child culture is this cold and distant everywhere. It's pretty unthinkable here in Greece.

    • @ceinwenchandler4716
      @ceinwenchandler4716 Pƙed 27 dny +4

      @@ElvenAngel I live in the United States. My mom has made it clear more than once that, even after I leave home for good as an adult, she wants to be in frequent contact with me. She absolutely would not consider sending me to a boarding school... period, probably, but definitely not one that wouldn't let her talk to me often. Frankly, she'd probably assume that a boarding school that doesn't allow its students to contact their parents very often is a major red flag for abuse. And she'd be right.

    • @MalwarePad
      @MalwarePad Pƙed 23 dny +1

      ​@@ElvenAngel wow, I'm not the first Greek to be watching this and I was thinking the same thing! Maybe our culture is a bit different though..

  • @canadianstig4204
    @canadianstig4204 Pƙed 2 lety +8158

    “We’re an equal rights facility.”
    Well, everyone’s got equal rights if nobody has them to begin with.

    • @jennnnn911
      @jennnnn911 Pƙed 2 lety +11

      @@jaydenstrash8907 
? What the fuck.

    • @jaydenstrash8907
      @jaydenstrash8907 Pƙed 2 lety +36

      @@jennnnn911 sorry i deleted that did not mean for anyone to take offensive to that like again sorry

    • @M808B_Scorpion
      @M808B_Scorpion Pƙed 2 lety +69

      China be like

    • @finntaylor5826
      @finntaylor5826 Pƙed 2 lety +10

      had me laughing when he said that

    • @M808B_Scorpion
      @M808B_Scorpion Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@jennnnn911 what did he say?

  • @necronerd7507
    @necronerd7507 Pƙed 2 lety +65223

    It’s disturbing how children’s human rights can basically be signed away by a parent.

    • @sanay111
      @sanay111 Pƙed 2 lety +2794

      fr, children's consent must be taken before the parents signing them off anywhere

    • @markolukic6376
      @markolukic6376 Pƙed 2 lety +1065

      @@catsarerude you think they knew that it would be prison and not school?

    • @markolukic6376
      @markolukic6376 Pƙed 2 lety +975

      @@Baitrix1 in many european countries it is legal to beat child as a punishment

    • @brocowsci
      @brocowsci Pƙed 2 lety +304

      @@jamkat7785 it's a sick world.. one may not even want to be here if they knew the truth that goes on behind the scenes every day

    • @Mr.Goodkat
      @Mr.Goodkat Pƙed 2 lety +441

      @@jamkat7785 The people should know, the more horrific it is the greater it's effect on people and it having that disgusted effect on people is a good thing, increases chances of change too.

  • @johnnycage9656
    @johnnycage9656 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +448

    Phil’s story is absolutely heartbreaking. The kid didn’t go down without a fight, and with that alone he deserves a ton of respect. Ricci and the rest of the Elan staff have a spot reserved for them in Hell.

    • @olm8829
      @olm8829 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +5

      If there’s no afterlife, they will never be held accountable for their crimes, just like many other criminals. They will happily live the rest of their lives, spending millions they’ve made of their prison camp for underaged. This world sucks.

    • @dystopianrealities
      @dystopianrealities Pƙed měsĂ­cem +1

      Agreed ​@@olm8829

  • @swishersweets8886
    @swishersweets8886 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +736

    One of my best friends who sadly passed away a couple years ago was "snatched" the same way they describe here. He was able to somehow slip away while foghting back and ran escaping the two men sent to grab him from his bed. He called me and i picked him up. He was terrified. Allthough he did know that they were sent to brimg him to one of these "boarding schools". He was eventually caught and sent, and he came back worst then he was before. He would go into fight or flight mode with no reason and become delusional. These problems haunted him until his untimely death. He lived a lifr of crime and drug use. Allthough his original personality would shine through a lot of the time, he could become quite dangerous when he would become paranoid. Drug use and crime haunted him until his death a couple years back. He was my friend, and i believe that these schools are just as criminal as our governments and woul be the way we all get treated if they had it their way. Horrible things for a young kid to go through. Parents need to reach out to their kids. Not abandon them to some behavioral mod program. This shit is real, and very unsettling.

  • @theincfiles
    @theincfiles Pƙed 2 lety +11551

    It is so incredibly fucked up that that poor girl managed to escape from Elan and the first person she found, coming straight from hell, abused and killed her immediately. My god. May she rest in peace.

    • @tomtom0157
      @tomtom0157 Pƙed 2 lety +1354

      my stomach literally dropped when he explained what happened to her i think i need to take a break from this for my own mental healths sake

    • @EddieM1994
      @EddieM1994 Pƙed 2 lety +1080

      It's disturbingly common. It's as if they see a broken person and think "oh well, they're already fucked up, might as well." Rapists really are the scum of the Earth.

    • @peanutbuttermotherchucker
      @peanutbuttermotherchucker Pƙed 2 lety +689

      I completely agree. To an extent, the trucker did something even worse thank what Elan did to that poor girl.

    • @tomtom0157
      @tomtom0157 Pƙed 2 lety +481

      @@peanutbuttermotherchucker
      agreed! it's absolutely demented to even think of doing something like that, i believe in rehabilitation but there are some people too far gone

    • @cnelson1614
      @cnelson1614 Pƙed 2 lety +9

      At the very least

  • @DPStation
    @DPStation Pƙed rokem +11516

    "if you act like a baby you get screamed at like a baby"
    Who the hell screams at babies?

    • @itscupid9423
      @itscupid9423 Pƙed rokem +900

      i mean the people who run these type of things seem like the type to scream at babies so

    • @kreature7702
      @kreature7702 Pƙed rokem +205

      These things apparently, yes, things, these people have lost all humanity and don't deserve anything other than spite and exile

    • @masterk5372
      @masterk5372 Pƙed rokem +7

      Ikr

    • @DraperStan23
      @DraperStan23 Pƙed rokem +26

      @Chelsea aren’t Psychiatrists mainly meant for prescribing medication? Not actual mental health help? At least from my experience.

    • @webwallaballa944
      @webwallaballa944 Pƙed rokem

      @@DraperStan23 Psychiatrists are mainly meant for diagnosis and advice, but I have a strong feeling these quacks forged their PHDs

  • @ThursdayASMR
    @ThursdayASMR Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +121

    My bf was born in the early 70s and went to something exactly like this. He still can't describe his experience without crying his eyes out and he's one tough dude.

    • @pupsap7714
      @pupsap7714 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +3

      >he's one tough dude
      press X to doubt

    • @marir.s3620
      @marir.s3620 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +32

      ​@@pupsap7714🙄 and then you cry over how feminists or women laugh at men...

    • @pupsap7714
      @pupsap7714 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

      @@marir.s3620 I'm a woman who laughs at msn

    • @amazedcat9725
      @amazedcat9725 Pƙed měsĂ­cem +1

      @@pupsap7714Those kids are brave and strong to survive such a torturement and you're just a little baby who think he’s tough stfu. srsly

    • @SohamMehta-bg3ds
      @SohamMehta-bg3ds Pƙed měsĂ­cem +1

      ​@@marir.s3620feminists have always been horrible to men, so no surprise there

  • @cs4632
    @cs4632 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +77

    parents who send their kids to shit like this don’t deserve kids. saddest part is the majority of those kids probably had “behavioral issues” because of how their parents treat them. nauseating.

  • @dom-dp2sx
    @dom-dp2sx Pƙed 2 lety +8209

    terrifying to think parents paid thousands of dollars for years just for their children to be tortured.

    • @isaacmalown7003
      @isaacmalown7003 Pƙed 2 lety +147

      They are still doing it, we just call it the Education system. (XD)

    • @gummyneighborino7217
      @gummyneighborino7217 Pƙed 2 lety +33

      @truly nobody đŸ€Ą

    • @user-sc9ht2tb7u
      @user-sc9ht2tb7u Pƙed 2 lety +30

      @@gummyneighborino7217 what is that emoji for

    • @lancerblitz
      @lancerblitz Pƙed 2 lety +159

      @@user-sc9ht2tb7u himself

    • @RaeIsGaee
      @RaeIsGaee Pƙed 2 lety +151

      @truly nobody
      You calling the people that lived through the worst financial crisis in modern history *Twice* lazy? With your pensions, 401ks, social security, etc?
      You're talking about people who will be paying their college debt into their 40s lesser than old people who sit on their mountains of wealth, detached from the modern world while running almost every facet of the government and economy.

  • @moose8896
    @moose8896 Pƙed 2 lety +8294

    That policeman was an absolute angel for what he did to get that boy home, normally the protocol would be to take him back to the school

    • @SeaSerpentLevi
      @SeaSerpentLevi Pƙed 2 lety +493

      Exactly, god i wish we could at least know who he was.
      This was the only good thing to happen in the video, specially when considering the following stories right after :(

    • @DoomETmetal94
      @DoomETmetal94 Pƙed 2 lety +397

      It’s especially lucky for that kid considering the fact that Joe Ricci had the right connections with the right people to be able to basically intimidate the police into looking the other way/keeping their mouth shut if they came across something suspicious involving the school.

    • @Wtf_Noodles
      @Wtf_Noodles Pƙed 2 lety +96

      @@idontknowmyname.1200 stay ignorant

    • @tanjoman3411
      @tanjoman3411 Pƙed 2 lety +73

      I wish the other two escapees got people just like that cop to save them.

    • @pyromaniac034
      @pyromaniac034 Pƙed 2 lety +62

      @@Wtf_Noodles says the ignorant one

  • @m.i.3319
    @m.i.3319 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +73

    The phrase "for profit behavior modification" sent chills down my spine

  • @Exe244
    @Exe244 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +109

    I like how to the closing of Elan, they blame the internet for it's closing instead of just taking their lost with dignity. Basically yelling "It's your fault! Your fault that our school closed!" That's quite a level of pettiness right there. XD

  • @gachatookthekids
    @gachatookthekids Pƙed 2 lety +3122

    The worst mistake a parent can make is thinking a child will act and think like an adult. Kids are dumb as hell; they're kids. It's the responsibility of parents to help them grow up, not expect it to happen naturally.
    Edit: I can't believe I still have to say this but I used the word "dumb" here as a figure of speech.

    • @r3born206
      @r3born206 Pƙed 2 lety +338

      Another mistake is treating them like children while at the same time expecting them to act like adults

    • @margheritaorrigo1883
      @margheritaorrigo1883 Pƙed 2 lety +77

      @@r3born206 exactly, usually it’s the parent that decides arbitrarily depending on how they can best avoid responsibility, either by saying their kid should have acted more mature or that they can’t control their child’s childish behaviour :/

    • @samuraiboi2735
      @samuraiboi2735 Pƙed 2 lety +12

      @@r3born206 children are like the new ones and they need to be taught right and not immediately put stress or pressure on to them.They would eventually learn about life and become and act like an adult ONCE they become an adult.

    • @anxietywave8735
      @anxietywave8735 Pƙed 2 lety +53

      Kid's are not ''dumb as hell'', the assertion that children are inherently stupid has been used as justification for the ''troubled teen industry'' for centuries.

    • @gachatookthekids
      @gachatookthekids Pƙed 2 lety +74

      @@anxietywave8735 Apology for the vague hyperbole. What I meant was that kids behaving irrationally every now and then isn't an irregularity that the parents need to worry about. It's part of their growth and development to eventually become impressionable and rebellious. It is the duty of parents to guide them during this stage of development, but do so in a way that it doesn't violate children's rights with too much restrictions, or spoil the children by giving them too much either.
      I don't mean to say that kids being stupid is a justification for these junior concentration camps. I'm just saying that it's perfectly normal for children to behave that way, and parents need to accept that.
      English is not my native language so be patient with my wording please.

  • @fluffywolfo3663
    @fluffywolfo3663 Pƙed 2 lety +4828

    This school was so horrible a policeman refused to send a kid back, and gave him instruction on how to hitchhike back home.

    • @MASTEROFEVIL
      @MASTEROFEVIL Pƙed 2 lety +139

      That's wholesome

    • @fluffywolfo3663
      @fluffywolfo3663 Pƙed 2 lety +403

      @@MASTEROFEVIL true that.
      I’m not the biggest fan of the police but that
. I felt pretty happy about that.

    • @rat3732
      @rat3732 Pƙed 2 lety +346

      @@darkmomokocore3919 police is generally good, yes there's a LOT of media posts against it in america but they're good people, i respect them with all of my heart...

    • @deereye87
      @deereye87 Pƙed 2 lety +235

      ACAB except that guy

    • @mashedtatoes507
      @mashedtatoes507 Pƙed 2 lety +30

      @@deereye87 true

  • @creastalunga7199
    @creastalunga7199 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +80

    The fact that there are probably a lot of boarding schools similar to Elan that have not been found is terrifying

  • @Phantomonum
    @Phantomonum Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +49

    Out of all of these horrible series of events, that poor girl Dawn's story hit the hardest. She was thrown into a hell by her oblivious parents, and after enduring months of torture, she finally managed to escape, running for her life, only to run into a monster on the road and die a horribly agonizing death. I can't even imagine the kind of despair and hopelessness she had felt. :(((

  • @PowerPlagueDotORG
    @PowerPlagueDotORG Pƙed 2 lety +7631

    The fact that this place closed down only 10 years ago.
    Is frankly scary.

    • @bucklinspring
      @bucklinspring Pƙed 2 lety +500

      I was going into this video expecting to be creeped out or spooked but I ended up coming out of it fucking angry. Everyone involved in running this school deserve a life of punishment and to rot in hell.

    • @piper5939
      @piper5939 Pƙed 2 lety +414

      even more scary when you realize that places like this still exist and kids are still legally kidnapped to go to these camps

    • @jurgenkk
      @jurgenkk Pƙed 2 lety +62

      @@bucklinspring the ex students some strong individuals for not doing whats on my mind after they were free

    • @apaxfenrir8113
      @apaxfenrir8113 Pƙed 2 lety +67

      @@jurgenkk i am fucking impressed that it hasn't happened an mass killing by one of the students

    • @kunaladhikari5215
      @kunaladhikari5215 Pƙed 2 lety +119

      @@jurgenkk even if you are mentally the strongest person in the world I don’t think you’d be able to come out of an experience like this without trauma that will affect you for the rest of your life. This isn’t simply a few days of mistreatment, but years of unending torture.

  • @Calmor25
    @Calmor25 Pƙed 2 lety +5817

    Holy shit, to escape that hell hole only to run immediately into a disgusting monster. That poor girl.

    • @DogeLlama
      @DogeLlama Pƙed 2 lety +420

      For real, this whole video was bummer after bummer but that explanation of what happened to her made my heart hurt.

    • @AmberAmber
      @AmberAmber Pƙed 2 lety +17

      @Calmor25 Right? I'm broken... 💔💔💔đŸ„ș

    • @animooredpanda7097
      @animooredpanda7097 Pƙed 2 lety +178

      Hell has a special place for the people in Elan and that trucker...

    • @commcrimson9999
      @commcrimson9999 Pƙed 2 lety +36

      The 1979’s was filled with murderers and it was legal

    • @SandraSine40
      @SandraSine40 Pƙed 2 lety +66

      ​@@user-lh5hl4sv8z have you ever went on foot to a place that is new to you and try to find a way through without knowing where you are or where you are going, one minute feels like an hour, nervous, afraid, confused, tired, and frustrated, even when you have a sane mind it's hard and not to mention she was only a lost child.
      It's fun to believe we can do better but the truth is most of us would do the same.

  • @ashleyhickmandamom
    @ashleyhickmandamom Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +48

    As a parent, it hurts me to know that people can let just the kidnapping portion take place, let alone all the other atrocities
 this makes me sick to my stomach

  • @iloveallthepeople
    @iloveallthepeople Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +43

    I remember my mother threatening me with this. I slept a bowie knife in my bed from the time i was 12 to 17 when i got out of that house. I had forgotten about it until this reminded me. Yall be thankful for good parents.

  • @watcherknight8760
    @watcherknight8760 Pƙed 2 lety +6231

    Imagine escaping what could only be called a horrifically inhumane and cult-like prison, crying out to the first truck you see for salvation, only to be raped and murdered and left in a ditch on the side of the road, that's one of the bleakest most depressing things I've ever heard

    • @Malphas38th
      @Malphas38th Pƙed 2 lety +370

      I really fucking hate humanity

    • @scowler7200
      @scowler7200 Pƙed 2 lety +161

      Truckers are typically human garbage. Unless they're in a fleet or expediters.

    • @ElysetheEevee
      @ElysetheEevee Pƙed 2 lety +872

      That and the kid that just got shot for all his trouble. Those two were the saddest part of this video, honestly. All of that pain and effort to survive to end up...not.

    • @anitaremenarova6662
      @anitaremenarova6662 Pƙed 2 lety +543

      @@ElysetheEevee Yeah but her story is still worse. I think the guy got shot because he was mistook for a burglar or something. The girl was assaulted and killed with intent. People like that make me sick to my stomach.

    • @Rinesmyth
      @Rinesmyth Pƙed 2 lety +105

      @@Malphas38th this is not humanity, but monstrosity

  • @hannahb2306
    @hannahb2306 Pƙed 2 lety +21053

    “Gee, our son we beat with a hockey stick acts out aggressively and has mental health issues, I can’t imagine why!”

    • @White_Recluse
      @White_Recluse Pƙed 2 lety +202

      “Harder daddy”

    • @sorrychangedmyusername3594
      @sorrychangedmyusername3594 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      I guess i should hit harder too

    • @izedits3963
      @izedits3963 Pƙed 2 lety +1963

      @@WeldersFSC You shouldn't hit your kids... Instead you should talk to them about what they did, the situation of it and why not to do it. And maybe you can ground your kids for a week of not seeing your friends. Also, hitting is actually concidered abuse.

    • @excusemesir7451
      @excusemesir7451 Pƙed 2 lety +1203

      @YungPatrick Don’t hit kids. Period.

    • @wooby4104
      @wooby4104 Pƙed 2 lety +858

      @YungPatrick still wrong. there's no reason to ever hit a kid.

  • @cootesey6619
    @cootesey6619 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +15

    Every child deserves parents but not all parents deserve children

  • @OzwaldWisteria
    @OzwaldWisteria Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +42

    It’s insane to me how there are just “loopholes” that let you essentially kidnap and torture people.

  • @HarmonicGray
    @HarmonicGray Pƙed 2 lety +9990

    Any parent who signs their kid up for something where the first step is openly kidnapping them at night is pathetic and weak. Sorry you were too much of a failure to raise your kid properly, but don't put them through this because you failed.

    • @yashu9081
      @yashu9081 Pƙed 2 lety +349

      True. I mean if they are shitty parents. They should instead put them in a TRUSTED and not a suspicious orphanage but still.

    • @newvocabulary
      @newvocabulary Pƙed 2 lety +562

      Weak and pathetic, no. Criminally negligent, horrible human beings, deserve to be jailed for their entire lives -- yes.

    • @thefunkyrolo
      @thefunkyrolo Pƙed 2 lety +548

      @@newvocabulary why bother knocking the weak and pathetic part off, they're all of the above really

    • @newvocabulary
      @newvocabulary Pƙed 2 lety +268

      @@thefunkyrolo sure, i'll go with that. All of the above.

    • @ngwoo
      @ngwoo Pƙed 2 lety +329

      There was a case where the would-be kidnap victim killed one of the kidnappers who came for them in the middle of the night. It was ruled self-defence and they faced no punishment for it.
      That needs to happen more often, in my opinion.

  • @MissSweetie
    @MissSweetie Pƙed 2 lety +7454

    "you're gonna act like a baby, you should be treated like a baby"
    Babies don't get spanked or screamed at. They're babies. They should be calmed down. They won't understand why they are being yelled at or hurt. Babies are just babies.

    • @ggkproductions1632
      @ggkproductions1632 Pƙed 2 lety +38

      It was the 1980s, parents were still spanking their kids back then.

    • @just_fork
      @just_fork Pƙed 2 lety +121

      @@ggkproductions1632 parents still spank their kids

    • @rowenlampe7426
      @rowenlampe7426 Pƙed 2 lety +51

      @@just_fork much worse than that my man, and spankingcan be a good thing...mindless beating, no

    • @tiktok_content9505
      @tiktok_content9505 Pƙed 2 lety +39

      @@rowenlampe7426 Id rather get a spanking and a itchy butt for 30 minutes than torture and abuse

    • @evagineer9165
      @evagineer9165 Pƙed 2 lety +11

      @@tiktok_content9505 and getting KKK’d

  • @finnbootes1862
    @finnbootes1862 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +22

    Break the cycle. treat your kids how you wish you were treated.

  • @Meepmop2345
    @Meepmop2345 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci +28

    what a good way for a parent to be disowned and never talked to ever again

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache Pƙed 2 lety +13033

    I think it's actually frightening how this industry still exists to this day

  • @docjonas8465
    @docjonas8465 Pƙed 2 lety +5266

    The fact that this ''school'' was operating all the way until 2010 is actually fucking disgusting.

    • @theolneko3087
      @theolneko3087 Pƙed 2 lety +198

      Exactly my thoughts.
      I kept thinking to myself "when would this place get exposed and shut down?" once I watched 3/4 of the video only to be shocked and sick to learn that this was very recent.

    • @peepeetrain8755
      @peepeetrain8755 Pƙed rokem +241

      these camps still exist today. with similar treatments and deaths. Called the troubled teen industry.

    • @criticalsht6653
      @criticalsht6653 Pƙed rokem +9

      So in my calculations that is to much for a "school"

    • @melissamarie7598
      @melissamarie7598 Pƙed rokem +2

      2011

    • @liond7169
      @liond7169 Pƙed rokem +33

      I've been to one of these camps in 2019 little has changed since then everything matches up except the fight circle.

  • @tiredandanxious8541
    @tiredandanxious8541 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +15

    As someone who was “threatened” with military/boarding school when misbehaving, this is horrifying. My heart breaks for these children and anyone who is undergoing this in secret.

  • @Devil_Mommy666
    @Devil_Mommy666 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci +22

    I'm from Maine, yet I've had friends go to camps regularly during the summer for behavioral issues.. it saddens me to think my peers went through something like this yearly.. I hope everyone affected gets real help and love from their families and peers

    • @kimberlyjulian5666
      @kimberlyjulian5666 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

      Do any of your friends know a worker from the Elon boarding school named Bambi Skula?

  • @linseyspolidoro5122
    @linseyspolidoro5122 Pƙed 2 lety +4778

    Even disregarding the fact that tragically he was essentially beaten to death, the excuse that he had “regularly faked headaches” when a student had died of a brain aneurysm is patently absurd. Like nobody outside of the school when hearing this considered that maybe he _wasn’t_ faking and was just neglected.

    • @totallyjjade
      @totallyjjade Pƙed 2 lety +116

      the comment i was looking for, that pissed me off

    • @dalriadajohannsen
      @dalriadajohannsen Pƙed 2 lety +25

      It made my heart ache 😖 then I got pissed đŸ€ŹđŸ’ȘđŸœ

    • @Onche518
      @Onche518 Pƙed 2 lety +35

      That's Americans for you

    • @abhabh6896
      @abhabh6896 Pƙed 2 lety +102

      if I was the parent of the dead student I would go hunting for them.

    • @JimmyPizzaDelivery
      @JimmyPizzaDelivery Pƙed 2 lety +87

      @@Onche518
      Just Americans?
      Huh.

  • @joe9893
    @joe9893 Pƙed 2 lety +5067

    Unbelievable that this school only closed in 2011. 41 years of torturing teens. What's even worse is that "troubled teens" are still abused today and sent to these shitty camps.

    • @scottcantdance804
      @scottcantdance804 Pƙed 2 lety +276

      "You are being sent to a camp in Poland."
      Uh oh...
      "Poland, Maine."
      Ohhhhh.

    • @pikachu6795
      @pikachu6795 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Yea

    • @scowler7200
      @scowler7200 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Show me.

    • @kevindube7096
      @kevindube7096 Pƙed 2 lety +105

      @@scottcantdance804 there’s a Norway, Maine... there’s a Mexico, Maine... and I might be wrong but I’m pretty sure there’s a Washington D.C., Maine

    • @lukethelegend9705
      @lukethelegend9705 Pƙed 2 lety +13

      @@scottcantdance804 it’s almost worse

  • @zoe.zimbabwe
    @zoe.zimbabwe Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci +17

    This is especially horrifying for me to watch as someone who went to a "therapeutic" boarding school for my depression that was somewhat similar. We were neglected there and I dropped 22 pounds from malnourishment. I was 117lbs going in, and 95lbs coming out. The school was shut down for neglect and tax evasion soon after I was kicked out. The "therapy" there was very cult-like and similar to brainwashing. Once I went back home and was finally able to tell my mom what it was like, she was horrified.
    Parents, don't do this to your kids. The people running the schools can lie to you, and say that your child is lying when they try to tell you how they're treated. Don't let them end up like me.

  • @laurenbirch7797
    @laurenbirch7797 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +11

    “It’s not a boxing ring, it’s a ring of human people.” Sir?! And?! That makes it better?!

  • @FratterKnox
    @FratterKnox Pƙed 2 lety +6278

    Unfortunately, parents who send their kids to places like this are usually too dumb to realize that their child’s behavior is often a product of the parent’s actions and behavior. It disgusts me how many kids had to experience this literal torture just because their parents were too lazy to actually talk to their child and work on the underlying issues.

    • @lottiecharman6946
      @lottiecharman6946 Pƙed 2 lety +243

      Or they refuse to accept it

    • @bmona7550
      @bmona7550 Pƙed 2 lety +159

      @@lottiecharman6946 Idiots. It reminds me of my parents and they only listen now that one of them is dying

    • @lottiecharman6946
      @lottiecharman6946 Pƙed 2 lety +99

      @@bmona7550 I'm sorry to hear that, I hope you're okay
      It must be really hard to accept that you're the problem and you're the one who needs to change, especially as a parent
      And I know a lot of parents assume that kids just get over things 😱
      When I was in therapy my therapist low-key begged my family to do proper family therapy and they refused, because they didn't want to admit to themselves that they were at fault for some things
      But then again, having a kid is a huge commitment and some people don't see that 😅

    • @crewman6141
      @crewman6141 Pƙed 2 lety +25

      I need to thank my parents for taking me to a good school or even better, a hug.

    • @jesslagooch5291
      @jesslagooch5291 Pƙed 2 lety

      Totes benny totes 100

  • @emmadrew50
    @emmadrew50 Pƙed 2 lety +2090

    the fact that this stayed open for so long and closed because of bad pr and not because of the law is a insane testament to how our society treats kids as objects or animals more than people

    • @SamuelBlack84
      @SamuelBlack84 Pƙed 2 lety +14

      Society and right and wrong are just smokescreens for our true cruel natures

    • @NeoAstrisk
      @NeoAstrisk Pƙed 2 lety +82

      @@SamuelBlack84 woah bro so deeeeep. Don't cut yourself with all that edge man.

    • @SamuelBlack84
      @SamuelBlack84 Pƙed 2 lety +17

      @@NeoAstrisk Do all of you read from a script to say the exact same phrases over and over again? It's incredibly dull and boring

    • @NeoAstrisk
      @NeoAstrisk Pƙed 2 lety +30

      @@SamuelBlack84 bro, go listen to your hawthorne heights album and cry yourself asleep. Bet you were the weird smelly goth kid nobody liked.

    • @Edgee_yy
      @Edgee_yy Pƙed 2 lety +93

      @@NeoAstrisk bro, who hurt you?

  • @utimas1696
    @utimas1696 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +9

    Bruh, Elan is more like a maximum security prison, rather than a Boarding School. “No Smiling.”? How the hell is that a rule? 😡

  • @fushiushi
    @fushiushi Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +27

    I know it isn't nearly as bad as the boarding school in this video, but I went to a mental health facility known as Columbus Behavioral Center. It was somewhere in indiana, i dont remember the specific city. But some of those rules were there and I remember so many days there so vividly to the point I go into panic attacks and "screaming crying fits" according to my mom at the mere mention of it. I wish places like these got more attention so they could properly be investigated.

    • @fushiushi
      @fushiushi Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

      @@hotpinklightpinkwhiteorangered Yes it was referred to as that!

    • @Loris-Card
      @Loris-Card Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci

      Indiana? I’ve heard of one in Seale, Alabama.

    • @DonBurtonsays...
      @DonBurtonsays... Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci

      Maybe it was Columbus, Indiana? 20 years ago my ex gf was sent to a similar sounding facility but it was part of Columbus Regional Hospital and was called The Stress Center, if I recall. But it was nothing like Elan.

  • @YellowSub0
    @YellowSub0 Pƙed 2 lety +2400

    The fact that this camp was designed by a psychologist is appalling. Even back in the 70s we knew how ineffective punishment is for behaviour change, how psychologically damaging verbal abuse is and how problematic power imbalances are within groups of peers.

    • @hannahjudilla8897
      @hannahjudilla8897 Pƙed 2 lety +133

      Yeah, it really is sickening. Like, your a professional, did you not read the books? Did you not listen during lectures??
      And the fact that people just eat that shit up because it's from a professional, like it's just so goddamn disgusting.

    • @benjaminbrockway5998
      @benjaminbrockway5998 Pƙed 2 lety +52

      You say that like mental health professionals have the best interests of their patients in mind.

    • @marshmallows394
      @marshmallows394 Pƙed 2 lety +141

      @@benjaminbrockway5998 a lot of them actually do.

    • @subtleusername5475
      @subtleusername5475 Pƙed 2 lety +66

      @@benjaminbrockway5998 lmao yeah all mental health professionals are bad and you definitely proved it. case closed.

    • @iirovaltonen4258
      @iirovaltonen4258 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      More like a psychopath

  • @ACameronUK
    @ACameronUK Pƙed 2 lety +5253

    It makes me beyond angry that a man who turned child abuse into a profitable business managed to escape justice. I can’t imagine how sick your mind has to be in order to rationalise treating children that way.

    • @bashattack2414
      @bashattack2414 Pƙed 2 lety +179

      Because he did not care. The only thing he wanted was the parents' wallet. When you're money hungry you'd do anything to get that sweet, wonderful cash.
      Money and power will always and forever be a double-edged sword, and as much as I hope I am incorrect, might eventually be the downfall of humanity.

    • @chrmbs.2807
      @chrmbs.2807 Pƙed 2 lety +78

      @@bashattack2414 I guess you could say money has been and still is fucking up humanity. Its been our downfall for years, we just haven't reached the inevitable end yet.

    • @emmalouie1663
      @emmalouie1663 Pƙed 2 lety +7

      I think the Elan school psychotherapist went on to be a faculty member of a University in California.

    • @ACameronUK
      @ACameronUK Pƙed 2 lety +17

      @@emmalouie1663 what makes you think that? I couldn’t find any mention of it online.

    • @myselft36yearsago
      @myselft36yearsago Pƙed 2 lety +51

      The punishments for these programs, and people involved with it, should be test subjects to radiation poisoning.
      Like legit, this would be the most beneficial punishments to the scientific community and the general public

  • @Night-lo6zf
    @Night-lo6zf Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +13

    What’s scary is that some parents now a days
    Wish this would come back since they raise kids poorly now a days

  • @duolingo-owl
    @duolingo-owl Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +8

    i think one of the scariest parts of this video, at least for me, is at the beginning when it’s talking about when someone first arrived, and was met with screaming.
    it disturbs me the incoherent-ness of that screaming and whether it was intended or not, the only words i can seem to make out is “PLEASE”

  • @nekovalley
    @nekovalley Pƙed 2 lety +2714

    The absolute hatred for children in this place is astounding. Worse even so when you realize that more often than not, kids who act out are doing so for a valid reason, mostly trauma and mental illness. These kids didn’t need to be beaten and screamed at. They needed to be held and cared for and given the proper time and dedication that it takes to raise any child right.

    • @bradleyh4532
      @bradleyh4532 Pƙed 2 lety +118

      love and comfort does more for someone in pain than anything else every could

    • @imnotaregularmomimacoolmom6069
      @imnotaregularmomimacoolmom6069 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      💔💔💔💔

    • @PreciousArianneRRecto
      @PreciousArianneRRecto Pƙed 2 lety +71

      Exactly, childrens are flawed and its normal for a child or a teenager to act irrationally, they don't know shit about the world yet, extreme punishments and expecting perfection from them isn't a way to "fix" them to be a better person, i personally think its up to those children's to better themselves just be there to guide them, not this, and i hate how i used to think this is normal as a child. I see it every time when i was in elementary school.

    • @minacapella8319
      @minacapella8319 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      They knew what the kids needed. But they were getting what they wanted out of them

    • @codyzane9574
      @codyzane9574 Pƙed 2 lety +13

      As a father of 2 (nearly 2nd one due in 2 weeks) I absolutely whole heartedly agree with this, well said

  • @RickyLibido
    @RickyLibido Pƙed 2 lety +4192

    The worst part is: If you managed to contact any authorities, they would likely assume you were an "unruly teen" that needed "tough love."

    • @dibkle
      @dibkle Pƙed 2 lety +368

      Tough love is a bullshit lie created to justify abuse.

    • @lemoncake908
      @lemoncake908 Pƙed 2 lety +140

      @@dibkle thank you tough love is hitting your kid that isn't love that is abuse

    • @maximuffin6395
      @maximuffin6395 Pƙed 2 lety +105

      Abusers join arms with abusers

    • @dibkle
      @dibkle Pƙed 2 lety +14

      @@maximuffin6395 Damn, I never thought of that.

    • @froglegstastebestsalted
      @froglegstastebestsalted Pƙed 2 lety +11

      @@dibkle I think the term refers to telling people that they're not going a good way in life and calling out bullshit, more than outright abuse.

  • @Blaise2211
    @Blaise2211 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +4

    "If you act like a baby, you should be treated like a baby"??? So he says it's ok to hit you baby? What a sick, sadistic person

  • @devoidofanswers
    @devoidofanswers Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +18

    There’s still places like this to this day and it needs to be talked about more.

  • @borgrosa3468
    @borgrosa3468 Pƙed 2 lety +1574

    "we're a equal rights facility" treating everyone equally like shit

    • @sydney_pepper
      @sydney_pepper Pƙed 2 lety +29

      not really true, those kids clearly have no rights while the adults do

    • @SkittlesInYourHand
      @SkittlesInYourHand Pƙed 2 lety +6

      @@sydney_pepper Whats ironic is those fights are all about someone's basic rights being taken and losing rank

    • @hansjuker8296
      @hansjuker8296 Pƙed rokem

      Same "equal rights" the commie POS are marching for.

    • @thecatdragon589
      @thecatdragon589 Pƙed rokem +1

      they are a no rights facility

    • @aapelikananena9699
      @aapelikananena9699 Pƙed rokem +3

      he wasn't lying tho 😳

  • @sal7355
    @sal7355 Pƙed 2 lety +7107

    It’s so disgusting to hear that even after all that abuse, even after managing to escape, two of the three students were murdered. It’s heartbreaking.

    • @a_sorry_Asari
      @a_sorry_Asari Pƙed 2 lety +684

      Yeah that part is heartbreaking like much of this video. But for that girl to escape hell only to be greeted by an even worse form of hell is so sad. She was brave for sure.

    • @juanamaral7134
      @juanamaral7134 Pƙed 2 lety +93

      this comment right here will teach me not to read the comments before finishing the video lol

    • @lnkp-nut9564
      @lnkp-nut9564 Pƙed 2 lety +45

      @@juanamaral7134 I too have learnt

    • @moonrivr
      @moonrivr Pƙed 2 lety +382

      i couldn’t help but tear up when hearing about dawn. i can’t even imagine how much courage it must have taken to escape and then to be assaulted and have your life be so cruelly taken away by someone who you thought was going to be your savior? just unbelievably horrible

    • @JostVanWair
      @JostVanWair Pƙed 2 lety +92

      I wonder where that John Doe is.. I hope he is doing fine.

  • @fenrik8178
    @fenrik8178 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci +6

    I don’t get why the parents aren’t at least suspicious why their kids should be kidnapped in order to go to a school like this....

  • @makncheese9628
    @makncheese9628 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +11

    The sad thing is that these "schools" still exist. They have wilderness therapy centers and troubled teen centers that are like this. And sometimes worse. Its extremely unsettling that these parents sign away their kids human rights not knowing that these kids will walk out of that if they make it through with severe PTSD and extreme trauma. At the hands of these people that the kids parents trusted there kids with. I know alot of people blame the parents but the thing is. The parents have ZERO idea what is happening. The kids are often forced to write letters about how great it is there and how much they like it. Its truly sick that these places still exist.

    • @mastermindinclude7198
      @mastermindinclude7198 Pƙed měsĂ­cem

      I dont care if they have an idea of whats going on or not. A parent deserves to be blamed, if the sway from the act of "parenting" and put the child in a facility. the work is in the fucking name. so any parent who sends their child to a facility like this for correction is probably sending them because they are fucked up parents.

  • @TurbopropPuppy
    @TurbopropPuppy Pƙed 2 lety +1597

    43:47 "Today, he walks a free man." When the punishment for a crime is a fee, crime is free for the wealthy.

    • @angelsnaiilz
      @angelsnaiilz Pƙed 2 lety +106

      absolutely. the system is so broken.

    • @yesnt8907
      @yesnt8907 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      When you don’t know what a bond is

    • @MyNameMeansPalm
      @MyNameMeansPalm Pƙed 2 lety +75

      @@yesnt8907 1.2M is free money for wealthy people

    • @Reinhard96
      @Reinhard96 Pƙed 2 lety +24

      @@yesnt8907 Money is no equality for retribution of crimes committed.

    • @Reya66
      @Reya66 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@Reinhard96 however, if you get a good lawyer you might just escape it... The judge is pretty much constrained to the merits of the argument in the adversarial model of justice system followed in the US.

  • @tamirspivak9434
    @tamirspivak9434 Pƙed 2 lety +3598

    He came home. In a box.
    This sent chills down my spine. I honestly hate parents that thinks sending their child away to some facility they heard about and not even see him face to face once a week is a good idea.

    • @MrEquusQuagga
      @MrEquusQuagga Pƙed 2 lety +4

      no he didnt

    • @Psyteth
      @Psyteth Pƙed 2 lety +133

      @@MrEquusQuagga you must not be there yet... or just dim.

    • @Sol_eri
      @Sol_eri Pƙed 2 lety +238

      @@MrEquusQuagga They literally say that a kid came home in a box. He died.

    • @MrEquusQuagga
      @MrEquusQuagga Pƙed 2 lety +9

      @King Pistachion nah. He came home in an URN!!!! OHHHHH

    • @Malphas38th
      @Malphas38th Pƙed 2 lety

      My parents did that twice already

  • @Gigi-lk6bj
    @Gigi-lk6bj Pƙed 23 dny +3

    What I dont understand is how those parents think that some STRANGER is going to "fix" their child ?? How can you trust strangers? YOU as a parent know your child the best?? And in most cases the parents are the reason why a child is "troubled"....

    • @masterjustin2246
      @masterjustin2246 Pƙed 7 dny

      Not justifying it, but you would be easily convinced too if you had those advertisement pamphlets without so much of a shred of proof from the inside
      Even people thought this was a actual boarding school back then

  • @vibri_
    @vibri_ Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci +6

    Sadly, when cases of child abuse like these surface, people only ever pay attention to the most extreme, physical forms of abuse, like violence and sexual abuse, or in this case, the Ring.
    But nobody ever considers the more subtle forms of control and abuse present. All the "forbidden actions" rules and incredibly tight scheduling, The complete absence of privacy and supervision over every aspect of these kid's lives, All of these things are no less abusive than hitting a kid, but everyone fails to consider them abusive when there is no visible, immediate harm to the child.
    The sad truth is, when you're a parent or some other authority figure in a child's life, you can get away with a lot of abuse as long as it doesn't spill into physical territory.

  • @helgaformo2054
    @helgaformo2054 Pƙed 2 lety +1776

    Parents: "Parenting? Eew. Here's money, take care of it."

    • @maximomanabat8382
      @maximomanabat8382 Pƙed 2 lety +59

      I call them PAYrents

    • @carlost856
      @carlost856 Pƙed 2 lety +13

      They already tried their best, their best was lacking hence the hockey stick beatings.

    • @alexillescas8521
      @alexillescas8521 Pƙed 2 lety +58

      @@carlost856 if hockey sticks were for attempting their best and failing then clearly they had low standards as parents and would be terrifying to see what them at their worst would be.

    • @alexillescas8521
      @alexillescas8521 Pƙed 2 lety +36

      @@carlost856 also any adult that thinks a child should be beaten with a hockey stick should be beaten themselves with one just so they can see how much of an brutal form of physical assault that is.

    • @carlost856
      @carlost856 Pƙed 2 lety +16

      @@alexillescas8521 I don't. The problem is that too much abuse gets passed up as parenting.

  • @jaggerlol8837
    @jaggerlol8837 Pƙed 2 lety +3127

    Knowing psychology, being attacked and hurt only makes someone more aggressive when they’re older. So it’s kinda making the students worse

    • @stuffenjoyer2223
      @stuffenjoyer2223 Pƙed 2 lety +86

      @Faith it’s a combination of both. The profit incentive makes it so you want to spend the least amount of money and resources as possible.
      That means you make more money, but the staff you hire will be deranged and hungry for suffering at worst or indifferent to the suffering at best.

    • @choodle9729
      @choodle9729 Pƙed 2 lety +23

      kinda? I wouldn't be surprised if half of these kids are now serial killers or rapists

    • @pandabearmadness6263
      @pandabearmadness6263 Pƙed 2 lety +35

      Not always, I was beat and beat badly, beat so bad I've been put into the hospital multiple times. As youth I got into fights and lashed out, but as a father I have never beat my kids or even had the slightest thought of beating my kids if they mouth off. My beatings only have strengthen my need to protect my kids so I'd say for me it's had the complete opposite effect

    • @certifiedspacebisexual
      @certifiedspacebisexual Pƙed 2 lety +5

      KINDA is an understatement lmao

    • @FoivosP
      @FoivosP Pƙed 2 lety +5

      dont want to discredit your knowledge, but I guess this is just common sense .. how being aggressive to someone would make him/her better?

  • @adhesivepoipole
    @adhesivepoipole Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci +5

    one thing brought up in this is that the kids were not allowed to talk poorly of the school but what isn't to say that the parents wouldn't just not believe them. if i was being mistreated by an adult my parents would have 100% sided with the adult because why would an adult lie about abusing me. so glad i never went to this school.

  • @drayiskewl
    @drayiskewl Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +5

    When the Director started talking about the ring I felt sick. He's so casual... How can someone be so cruel

  • @ossianatepfenhart7022
    @ossianatepfenhart7022 Pƙed 2 lety +2679

    So, one of my former best friends was actually a graduate of this. She used to tell me that they'd make her relive her sexual abuse. There were a bunch of kids, male and female, who were raped on campus. She found out that one of the people who came forward with this actually killed himself. It's a common outcome from this kind of abuse.
    Over the years, I met a bunch of people who were from this industry. Most of them have very serious drug issues and none talk to their parents. I haven't seen one that has been okay since then. I'd put this on par with human trafficking, if I can be blunt.

    • @Krystalmyth
      @Krystalmyth Pƙed 2 lety +196

      Yeah I was honestly surprised at the lack of sexual abuse from this. Least nobody is talking about it. But this kind of environment seems like it'd be able to almost make it ritualistic.

    • @Krystalmyth
      @Krystalmyth Pƙed 2 lety +82

      My theory on why this is the case is that there's just too many people complicit there would be dozens of students that would have been involved considering that they liked making the students part of these rituals. if there was any punitive sexual abuse nobody is gonna talk about it. the victims aren't gonna wanna bring in a small army upon themselves and the ones who would have done the abuse even though they were victims themselves of this culture aren't gonna wanna bring down more chaos into their lives so they're just gonna keep this bottled up forever. they're gonna take it to their graves but the lack of any mention of it in a place you had teenagers monitored 24/7, no shower privacy.... speaks volumes to me. something has to give and they engineered it so that energy was placed somewhere.

    • @sushanthadusumilli1067
      @sushanthadusumilli1067 Pƙed 2 lety +21

      This is plain torture.

    • @jackhoward8
      @jackhoward8 Pƙed 2 lety +10

      @Rusty Howe I think the pregnant students were pregnant before admitted to the school. Remember, some of them are troubled teenagers

    • @bingchilling7900
      @bingchilling7900 Pƙed 2 lety +22

      Wtf what kind of monster would you have to be to force teenagers to verbally abuse another pregnant teenagers

  • @JKPippa
    @JKPippa Pƙed 2 lety +8542

    I was never a fan of Paris Hilton, but I ended up watching her latest documentary out of curiosity. Discovering she had been sent to one of these children labor camps, even kidnapped in the middle of the night, has caused her such extreme PTSD that she's still having trouble sleeping or living her life each day was heartbreaking. Not only because of Paris, but because of all the children that are imprisoned and tortured in these facilities who still don't have a voice.
    This isn't even tragic. This is pure evil. It's pure evil.

    • @andreaf8404
      @andreaf8404 Pƙed 2 lety +192

      i didnt know that! i feel so bad for her and all other kids :(

    • @romanrodriguez3959
      @romanrodriguez3959 Pƙed 2 lety +621

      She’s been an advocate for exposing these institutions since that documentary’s release. The doc was a way for her to address it publicly ahead of appearing in court against the program that she was apart of. People are more and more aware of this now, but they do still exist.

    • @collin2304
      @collin2304 Pƙed 2 lety +151

      I immediately thought of her when they said they kidnapped them in the middle of the night

    • @wendyleea3822
      @wendyleea3822 Pƙed 2 lety +8

      @Johana Struve I watched that documentary also and had the same feeling

    • @ErrSid
      @ErrSid Pƙed 2 lety +61

      I was thinking about Paris' story too. Wasnt a big fan of her in general but what happened wasnt ok

  • @kodoku_opia
    @kodoku_opia Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +6

    there’s a phineas and ferb episode that heavily references elan.
    candace has a dream about her actually managing to get her mother to find out what phineas and ferb were doing and she sends them to this reformatory school that marketed themselves as a good place that will help their students improve, when in reality they were brainwashed and candace had to go back and save them because she misses them
    in the episode, the thing i remember most is the two boys having to clean the bathrooms with a single toothbrush

  • @Papi_C
    @Papi_C Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +8

    “Can’t wait to go to my summer camp and meet all these new people!”
    Elan: *I will break you*

  • @rbkommando5456
    @rbkommando5456 Pƙed 2 lety +5327

    I remember talking to a homeless man on a bridge, who told me about this program. he said that he was forced to go through it when he was a teen and it ruined him mentally. I thought he was full of it. Sorry for ever doubting you Joe.

    • @goob8040
      @goob8040 Pƙed 2 lety +165

      That’s so sad:(

    • @genossinwaabooz4373
      @genossinwaabooz4373 Pƙed 2 lety +358

      Sometimes it's important to really listen to people. From being homeless, which started age 17 when my abusive adoptive parents just decided to kick me out cuz I wouldnt attend their cult church anymore, I found out how many homeless shelters were structured on the abuses Elan is based on.
      Especially Salvation Army.
      People in so many settings are being made to accept being 'guilty'

    • @grandstarstudiosYT
      @grandstarstudiosYT Pƙed 2 lety +12

      Oof Joe is On God's side bless him

    • @Petrichoredits1
      @Petrichoredits1 Pƙed 2 lety +71

      The top comment says that there’s a Webtoon called “Joe vs. Elan school”

    • @philliesphanatic6020
      @philliesphanatic6020 Pƙed 2 lety +80

      @@Petrichoredits1 wonder if it's the same Joe. Or if "joe" is just a acronym for the people who attended these places.

  • @sailor412
    @sailor412 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +8

    This is great - thank you for your contribution. Another TTI cult in a boarding school is Hyde School in Bath, Maine (unfortunately still currently functioning)

  • @Mr___f
    @Mr___f Pƙed rokem +9

    It's wild the lengths some parents in the US would go to not exert any effort into raising their children. 50k tuition or actually trying to talk and connect to your child? What a joke
    And people still have the audacity to wonder why each generation keeps getting more and more messed up.

  • @ryanmelnick8793
    @ryanmelnick8793 Pƙed 2 lety +1872

    I work with a guy who was at Elan for almost a year.
    Apparently, they sent people to his house and they "kidnapped" him - brought him up to the school. He said that it was extremely far in to the wilderness. The only thing that he disclosed was the "Ring", and how they would zip-tie kids' wrists and make them fight. He made allusions to darker happenings as well (definite sexual violations), and it seemed like the school was part of a huge cover-up years later. He is absolutely...without a doubt, deeply affected by these memories and shows scars in his psyche that won't ever heal. Poor guy is always on edge and displays hyper-vigilant behavior. I thank God that the worst place I have seen was my local high-school.
    Thanks Nexpo. You give these people a voice well after they vanished in to obscurity by the winds of change. I will speak to the guy tomorrow. I'll be back to report my findings.

    • @AcroGrade
      @AcroGrade Pƙed 2 lety +64

      Super curious about this. Hope he's good.

    • @oliviasayshi7517
      @oliviasayshi7517 Pƙed 2 lety +57

      Hope the guy gets some good therapy!

    • @gost4864
      @gost4864 Pƙed 2 lety +40

      aw man. i hope he's gonna be okay

    • @gasterblaster9817
      @gasterblaster9817 Pƙed 2 lety +62

      @@oliviasayshi7517 That is, of course, if he is even capable of trusting therapeutic institutions after his experiences.

    • @xjunkxyrdxdog89
      @xjunkxyrdxdog89 Pƙed 2 lety +63

      Do you think thats a great idea? Dredging up his unpleasant memories to satisfy *your* curiosity? Seems kinda cruel to me. Just let the guy live.

  • @of1564
    @of1564 Pƙed 2 lety +2760

    Since the parents allowed their kids to go to this prison, they also deserve to be sued for negligence in the crimes aginst their children's dignity, physiscal integrity and probably their lives.

    • @SeaSerpentLevi
      @SeaSerpentLevi Pƙed 2 lety +30

      True!

    • @SuperFlashDriver
      @SuperFlashDriver Pƙed 2 lety +35

      Those parents should have been put to death and be forced to drink the kool aid cynide just like Jonestown went through around the same time this was happening int he 70s and 80s.

    • @angelgray8899
      @angelgray8899 Pƙed 2 lety +7

      Good luck getting _that_ legalised

    • @mysh-cubicalcreator1882
      @mysh-cubicalcreator1882 Pƙed 2 lety +42

      I might be wrong but aren't they sent mails of how they're treated very equally and they'll go as far as to fabricate the original work so it looks like they were having a normal life inside the camp. I don't think they would be blamed for that though since they thought this was for the better and that they'll be well behaved.

    • @Zero-ob8in
      @Zero-ob8in Pƙed 2 lety +51

      The parents thought this place was going to change their kids for the better. Remember- they didnt know about the cruel methods up until the end.
      The parents were manipulated aswell.

  • @k_a_t_i_e999
    @k_a_t_i_e999 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +2

    Your videos are amazing. They make me feel so deeply. I remember hearing one of the survivors story’s from Elan and it was horrible. I’m so glad he was able to carry on after he escaped.

  • @musicaluprising924
    @musicaluprising924 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +3

    “You can’t be manipulative, that’s our job!”

  • @straydogswagger4280
    @straydogswagger4280 Pƙed 2 lety +584

    "Corporal is such a harsh term." You're right, we shouldn't call it that. Its child abuse, you bastard.

    • @wingsoffirecrimsonclaws
      @wingsoffirecrimsonclaws Pƙed 2 lety +39

      “Corporal is such a harsh term.”
      “No no you’re right, it should be much harsher. Child abuse, you son of a gun.”

  • @mousermind
    @mousermind Pƙed 2 lety +3270

    This is despicable. "Troubled teens" are troubled for a _reason,_ often due to parents not understanding how to parent their child properly. I, for one, was heavily medicated by an overzealous psychiatrist because I wasn't behaving the way my mother expected and she refused to accept any blame, pushing for answers where there were none. I suffered two seizures from taking a couple medications which are _explicitly not supposed to be combined._ Once I realized this, I made the decision to stop taking those meds and confront the quack about it. Do you know what he said to me? He offered to add on _yet another,_ seizure medication! I never went back there, and I worked on my issues with a proper therapist, without medication.
    Bad parents will look for any solution except the one in the mirror, and youths don't always get the chance to even have someone listen to them about _why_ they're upset. My mother was prideful, stubborn, and a drunk, and this video makes me highly uncomfortable, because it brings back my own nightmares from childhood through the teen years.

    • @scoopp3902
      @scoopp3902 Pƙed 2 lety +16

      Facts.

    • @myeyelashesarelongerthanyo6019
      @myeyelashesarelongerthanyo6019 Pƙed 2 lety +96

      I’m sorry you had to suffer through that. You’re right though, some parents outright refuse to even acknowledge any faults within them and blame their child for problems that they caused. It’s horrible.

    • @oyabunnn
      @oyabunnn Pƙed 2 lety +13

      I'm sorry you had to go through that. Holding space for you❀

    • @KT-83
      @KT-83 Pƙed 2 lety +4

      I feel your pain... Been through very similar stuff and now 38 still trying to have a normal life. Through out this video, I wanted to reach out to this poor souls and somehow help them. đŸ˜„

    • @27sspider27
      @27sspider27 Pƙed 2 lety +7

      "...and this video makes me highly uncomfortable, because it brings back my own nightmares from childhood through the teen years.".......same

  • @Capnchaos4202
    @Capnchaos4202 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +3

    I was kidnapped as a “troubled youth” by the state of Michigan. I spent my entire teen years in their custody. I’m now 55 years old and the damage caused by my time there continues to this day.

  • @radulescudorin3988
    @radulescudorin3988 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +1

    I recently discovered your channel and I have to say that I am thankful for all you do ! A real person who dive deep and detailed into lots of interesting subjects.

  • @jillianc7485
    @jillianc7485 Pƙed 2 lety +1095

    so y’all probably aren’t aware but paris hilton actually suffered through a school exactly like this. she’s now trying to raise awareness of the brutality and provide counseling for the former “students”

    • @birdsfly7199
      @birdsfly7199 Pƙed 2 lety +79

      That's great. Props to her for helping these kids out.

    • @jillianc7485
      @jillianc7485 Pƙed 2 lety +41

      @@birdsfly7199 right ?? and you never would’ve guessed either

    • @YEETUSDAFEETUS
      @YEETUSDAFEETUS Pƙed 2 lety +81

      wow that makes me feel a lot of respect for her and explains the "party years" a lot

    • @toolatetothestory
      @toolatetothestory Pƙed 2 lety +28

      Huh.
      That explains some stuff.

    • @Edgee_yy
      @Edgee_yy Pƙed 2 lety +14

      Queen shit right there

  • @virginiagwen6523
    @virginiagwen6523 Pƙed 2 lety +7294

    Behind almost every "troubled teen" is actually a troubled household. Maybe there is something wrong with the parent's marriage, their finances, their family relationships, their mental health, etc.
    Fix the problem at the root. And nearly always, the root is almost never the teenager.

    • @sophiaredwood5825
      @sophiaredwood5825 Pƙed 2 lety +95

      This 👏👏👏

    • @jocelyn-nk9es
      @jocelyn-nk9es Pƙed 2 lety +85

      agreed. but also a “troubled teen” can choose their own path. they aren’t dumb, and can differentiate from right and wrong. they just choose to ignore the consequences

    • @vivid8979
      @vivid8979 Pƙed 2 lety +429

      @@jocelyn-nk9es Most of the time their circumstances forces them to choose the "easy way out" which is most of the time "wrong way"... Without proper guidance mistakes will be inevitable and before you know it a simple mistake can lead to bigger ones..

    • @kochoushinobu2999
      @kochoushinobu2999 Pƙed rokem +31

      @@vivid8979 well said.

    • @jackharrow7147
      @jackharrow7147 Pƙed rokem +5

      "nearly always... almost never"
      see, you and @jocelyn are right - some of the kids are just bad and so are partially to blame for getting treated like this

  • @heartsfromsuha
    @heartsfromsuha Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +8

    This made me grateful for my school

  • @srose1088
    @srose1088 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +2

    What gets me is the idea that while you're in there, you can't be bad or sad, but you can't be too good or happy either to avoid punishment. How do you mentally survive that.

  • @Shy-xm4kn
    @Shy-xm4kn Pƙed rokem +6400

    I almost got sent to a “troubled teen” camp. My mom convinced my dad they would do more harm then good for me. She spent about a month talking him out of it. I’m so glad she was in my corner for that occasion.

    • @Rei-tm3so
      @Rei-tm3so Pƙed rokem +413

      Praise your mom. Thank goodness she was able to do that for and stayed by your side

    • @gtc239
      @gtc239 Pƙed rokem +215

      Your mother is a saint compared to your father, glad you're ok.

    • @Shy-xm4kn
      @Shy-xm4kn Pƙed rokem +362

      @The Beardless 1 oh no it most certainly was not. I was being sent away cause my dad thought I was on drugs. Turns out I just had type one diabetes and was dying. Once I got hospitalized and diagnosed they realized why I lost so much weight, my skin was grey, and my hair was falling out. I was also moody all the time because I was sick.

    • @dokkae6423
      @dokkae6423 Pƙed rokem +83

      @@Shy-xm4kn My goodness, I hope you're doing better now! Bless your mother for standing up for you! :)

    • @Shy-xm4kn
      @Shy-xm4kn Pƙed rokem +80

      @Beardless 1 type one is a life long disease but thank you know that we know what was wrong with me I’m definitely much better :)

  • @austinrose2248
    @austinrose2248 Pƙed rokem +6262

    When he said 50,000 to pay for this my jaw dropped. To pay that much for your kid to get assaulted is awful. Imagine the amount of real help and guidance you could get for your child with that. The parents just want to hand them off like a bad pet to get trained instead raising them.

    • @Judo_Master
      @Judo_Master Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +276

      All children deserve parents, but not all parents deserve children

    • @Anaabella-ey1
      @Anaabella-ey1 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +8

      Well the average is $17.00 but yes I completely agree with you!

    • @GODEATER2
      @GODEATER2 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +16

      @@Judo_Master you act like the parents knew what was happening

    • @catsdogswoof3968
      @catsdogswoof3968 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +1

      ​@@Judo_Masterwell no some children are like these parents o think about 13000 children are like that even then dont send them here

    • @user-mk2ss1gi1p
      @user-mk2ss1gi1p Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +10

      @@catsdogswoof3968 who taught the kids to act like that?

  • @xX_codyine_syrup_Xx
    @xX_codyine_syrup_Xx Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +5

    honestly i hope my parents don’t find out about this. they’d send me there immediately, and i know it. they’ve already done things like what they do here to me before so it’s not a major stretch.

  • @downwindfish1
    @downwindfish1 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +5

    This is a really good example of a massive problem in our society that’s completely overlooked, children are basically legal property to their parents, it’s extremely fucked up that parents have the right to sign their kids life away

  • @lawrencelawliet5016
    @lawrencelawliet5016 Pƙed 2 lety +7617

    My heart goes out to Brad. He escaped only to be shot while seeking help after being tortured. Not even the comments seem to make much note of it. May he rest in peace.

    • @sentientsid07
      @sentientsid07 Pƙed 2 lety +257

      May brads and dawns soul rest in piece!

    • @thesepticbossalduin8859
      @thesepticbossalduin8859 Pƙed 2 lety +278

      Yeah. And it's even more heartbreaking that he went there because he thought it would probably be a safe haven in some way or at least he would actually be given some help just to be shot. I'm glad you bring this up.

    • @jonahkabonah1039
      @jonahkabonah1039 Pƙed 2 lety +312

      @@thesepticbossalduin8859 And he probably didn't even die instantly. Just laying there bleeding out completely baffled and shocked by all of the events that have transpired, feeling utterly betrayed by both his parents and the world. He expected to escape to let the world know what was truly happening to all of these kids, just for the world to kill him and the truth.

    • @beu7990
      @beu7990 Pƙed 2 lety +181

      only 1 out of 3 successfully survived.. this all could've been prevented by the parents. its so scary to think that they escaped only to run into more corrupted people.

    • @theweebsarecoming1565
      @theweebsarecoming1565 Pƙed rokem +6

      2 amendment at it's best

  • @FTZPLTC
    @FTZPLTC Pƙed 2 lety +1836

    >"If you're gonna act like a baby, you're gonna be treated like a baby."
    I really hope someone looked into this guy if he thinks that this is how you treat a baby - by screaming at them and hitting them.

    • @shadowpoet4398
      @shadowpoet4398 Pƙed 2 lety +72

      Hey, abuse breeds monstrous behavior. Abuse is the only way places like this stay in business, those abused people vent on their own children and others, creating more "problem children" to fuel the Abuse Industry. The gear keeps turning and the beast is fed.

    • @oddeyesies
      @oddeyesies Pƙed 2 lety +19

      As someone with autism that has frequent autistic meltdowns, I was horrified at that part. I'm sure some students there had autism and had meltdowns as well, and in turn were reprimanded, having more meltdowns and the loop continues. It's horrifying.

    • @jayzell3687
      @jayzell3687 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      I think God did when he merc'd the fuck out of the psychopath back in 2001

    • @reservoirfrogs2177
      @reservoirfrogs2177 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@oddeyesies It was designed for you to fail and then you would be punished for failing

    • @amelialonelyfart8848
      @amelialonelyfart8848 Pƙed 2 lety +3

      @@oddeyesies I feel you so had. I have severe anxiety that caused me to have meltdowns when I was younger (and still today less frequently) and my dad employed almost the exact ame punishment. All it taught me was to hide y emotions as much as pssible.

  • @luna-mt7sf
    @luna-mt7sf Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +6

    I love how one of the rules "thinking of escaping" like they're fucking Akinator to know what those students think

  • @tahiratier
    @tahiratier Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +3

    The way my stomach dropped the moment you said that they weren't picked up by the so called lavish "private plane" but kidnapped??? that's so baffling and extremely weird in my opinion. I can't imagine or even fathom the amount of trauma and fear the students had to endure. I'm glad that bastard is dead and is probably somewhere burning in the depths of hell. To all the kids who passed through that, i hope peace is with you and that ur slowly and surely get better from such a horrendous time at that so called "school". To all the innocent souls that passed away may yall continue to rest in peace.