Full audio: Lori Vallow & her sister Summer Shiflet's jail phone call

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  • čas přidán 24. 04. 2023
  • On day 15 of the Lori Vallow murder trial, an important witness took the stand. The sister of the so-called doomsday mom who is accused of murdering her children after moving them from Arizona to Idaho. You can imagine the emotional moments as Summer Shiflet took the stand and testified against her own sister Lori.
    Just two weeks after the devastating discoveries of JJ and Tylee, Summer got a request from Lori in jail for her to call her sister. The confrontation is intense as Summer can’t fathom how Lori and Chad celebrated on a beach in Hawaii when JJ and Tylee were buried in the ground.
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Komentáře • 557

  • @jessieessex
    @jessieessex Před rokem +192

    When she says “you were dancing on a beach while your kids were in the ground…” she is speaking for everyone who heard this story and saw that photo. There isn’t a human being who could rationalize those two facts, except Lori and Chad.

    • @-norsecode-
      @-norsecode- Před rokem +13

      Chilling.

    • @PowderProofGirl
      @PowderProofGirl Před rokem +25

      That phone call broke my heart. She realized in an instant that her sister was a dark soul & a murderer.

    • @hollyb7142
      @hollyb7142 Před rokem +7

      Yes, it was oddly therapeutic to hear Summer ask Lori what we've all yearned to ask.

    • @-norsecode-
      @-norsecode- Před rokem +4

      @@hollyb7142 So very therapeutic.

    • @francinelee4129
      @francinelee4129 Před rokem +4

      That's because her sister is a psychopath and not trying to hide that fact either by the way she is acting.

  • @cherylspinazzola5572
    @cherylspinazzola5572 Před rokem +240

    While the whole world is completely devastated over these deaths, Lori remains calm, cool and collected. I have never seen such coldness.

    • @jackie5522
      @jackie5522 Před rokem

      She was special!!nobody understands that she killed the zombies but she’ll see them again someday with JESUS. How sick!!! I don’t buy the zombie stories. She just wanted her kids GINE and wanted money. CHARLES was so smart he made sure Lori got 0!

    • @sula1529
      @sula1529 Před rokem +18

      Yes watching from Europe and its not only shocking but mind boggling . Apparently she's a psychopath from what I have seen doctors say online.
      We lose out on the body language without the cameras in the court but she's apparently been laughing smirking and not one bit bothered.
      Very sad IMO

    • @donnasheraden6371
      @donnasheraden6371 Před rokem +15

      Lori & all of those involved in this should get what Tylee & JJ got. It's only fair.

    • @AE2003FU
      @AE2003FU Před rokem +20

      Same. That had to be hidden behind her smile for decades. She has such a detached attitude towards wtf happened to her poor children. No way Chad made her that way. That coldness ran deep.

    • @ricklynn2574
      @ricklynn2574 Před rokem +16

      Add smiling & laughing to that to that list.
      Evil at it's best!
      Hell is waiting for Lorie & Chad.

  • @embeth446
    @embeth446 Před rokem +175

    Lori is truly a sociopath. No emotion for her children. When I heard her laughing on the call with Colby it was undeniable but her cold reactions in this phone call only confirm it. Summer was beside herself with grief unlike the children’s mother.

    • @Hartleymolly
      @Hartleymolly Před rokem +11

      ikr, I think she actually is truly insane, which I hate to say, but she has no grasp of reality.

    • @never4saken165
      @never4saken165 Před rokem +3

      I totally agree

    • @grammichal6759
      @grammichal6759 Před rokem +13

      @@Hartleymolly She is EVIL!! It’s a SPIRITUAL matter, not a mental problem.

    • @SusieQ1971
      @SusieQ1971 Před rokem

      The thing is someone doesn't suddenly turn into a mentally ill delusional sociopath in their 40s. Not unless very heavy drugs are involved in frying her brain or she became possessed herself by demonic spirits by doing demonic rituals with Chad or something. The fact that her sister and son are shocked of the change in her behavior and the fact they never would've believed she was capable of this tells me she was truly touched by evil. No other explanation to become a homicidal delusional psychopath at 47 years old.

    • @deborah9775
      @deborah9775 Před rokem

      @@Hartleymolly She's not insane she got attention from everyone and was the leader! A sociopath narcissist! Chad being an even bigger sociopath & liar narcissist. They were both quite aware of reality. They are trying to get her off. She had no problems planning her husbands life. She had no,problem killing after torturing her children and throwing them out like trash after burning them.The duct tape on the precious boy was placed before death while torturing him. I only hope the jury sees it for what it is and does not let her off. You can have all kinds of cult leaders etc. and it doesn't make them insane. Look at the cult of trump followers crazy as hell. Yet not insane well at least a few weren't.

  • @Djtanner839
    @Djtanner839 Před rokem +64

    Listening to this poor woman wail when telling her she would have taken them is bone chillingly sad

  • @PowderProofGirl
    @PowderProofGirl Před rokem +77

    I can't believe they banned cameras from the courtroom. It would be very helpful to see the face of the heartless woman that is sitting in the courtroom

    • @sugargold4126
      @sugargold4126 Před rokem +7

      The power of the church.

    • @sugargold4126
      @sugargold4126 Před rokem +14

      I’m wondering if Lori or Alex had a hand in her oldest sisters death. I wouldn’t put anything past those two.

    • @Leolioness44
      @Leolioness44 Před rokem +13

      Yes, WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, Who pay for this Court's Services along with every paycheck and the building that they sit. Yet WE THE PEOPLE are blocked from the viewing. It seems to have been decided to accommodate only those who are part of the LDS

    • @Leolioness44
      @Leolioness44 Před rokem +5

      ​@@sugargold4126 I have thought so along with Joseph Ryan's death just the year before Charles Vallow was murdered. It's all about the $$$$$$ Attached to the person which Lori could somehow benefit through manipulation.
      😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

    • @PowderProofGirl
      @PowderProofGirl Před rokem +2

      @@sugargold4126 I have often wondered the same. She is a narcissist and he would do anything for her.

  • @Alegend03
    @Alegend03 Před rokem +117

    When you do something, "In the name of God," yet deny doing it. That's when you know that she knows her own selfishness.

  • @jamiealexander4888
    @jamiealexander4888 Před rokem +117

    Lori is religiously sick. Just looking at her, I have no empathy. Even if she was duped by Chad, we're talking about her children.

    • @LittleBlueOwl318
      @LittleBlueOwl318 Před rokem +1

      Chad is just as evil as Lori, but SHE is the one who did all the duping. SHE manipulated them all. SHE orchestrated all of it. I believe she poisoned 1*Joseph Ryan (for money and because she hated him) even though it was classified as a heart attack. Alex killing 2*Charles Vallow in "self defense" (again, she hated him and for the money) at Lori's behest, the murders of 3*Tylee and 4*JJ (they were in the way AND they had money - life insurance and Soc Sec - due to the deaths of their 2 dads) because SHE labeled them as spiritually "dark" - done, again, at her behest by Alex. *Brandon B, ex husband of Lori's niece, was shot at from the jeep by Alex (attempted murder) and I'm pretty sure she was in on that, too. Chad smothered his wife 5*Tammy Daybell so he and Lori could be together. Lori was totally fine with that - she wanted Chad so Tammy had to go. I'm pretty sure she prodded him along. Pretty sure Tammy had life insurance, too. She convinced Alex to elope and marry her friend Zulima, whom he barely knew. Then, when they exhumed Tammy, 6*Alex Cox was gonna sing like a canary, so he very conveniently dies of a heart attack on the bathroom floor. (I think he was also poisoned, tbh.) With Alex dead Lori didn't have to worry about him being questioned by the cops AND her bff Zulima got the life insurance payout. 6 dead people in one year because of HER. She was the mastermind and the manipulator... Chad was just her sexual minion.

    • @llamamama2910
      @llamamama2910 Před rokem +13

      In psychiatric hospitals around 1900, religious extremism or delusions were listed as a cause for institutionalizing patients.

    • @Rain_Reign
      @Rain_Reign Před rokem +16

      Truly. There’s no excuse for being led astray into having anything to do with the murder of your own children.

    • @kiki29073
      @kiki29073 Před rokem +7

      ​@@llamamama2910They still did up until they closed the mental hospitals down.

    • @MariaLopez-mi4ol
      @MariaLopez-mi4ol Před rokem +4

      Well there are still some mental hospitals around.....SHE NEEDS TO BE COMMITED TO ONE!!! That would be the worse torture ever!!!

  • @georgiafain3747
    @georgiafain3747 Před rokem +45

    If she was so convinced about her beliefs why not proudly own it.

  • @cherylolsen493
    @cherylolsen493 Před rokem +118

    Summer is so upset about the children. She was trying so hard to get Lori to explain. So sad.

    • @tracyrasmussen8117
      @tracyrasmussen8117 Před rokem +18

      Yes, more upset than the actual mother!

    • @rubyoro0
      @rubyoro0 Před rokem +6

      @@tracyrasmussen8117 Yeah, but remember months had already passed and Lori no longer needed to be upset. According to her.

    • @patti6178
      @patti6178 Před rokem +8

      @@rubyoro0 seriously wtf???? "I need to move on and find some happiness"?????

    • @littlesmith5005
      @littlesmith5005 Před rokem +1

      ​@@tracyrasmussen8117
      The actual mother did it so you expected her to be upset? I don't get you people

  • @AE2003FU
    @AE2003FU Před rokem +147

    I remember being very…. annoyed with her mother and sister when they did that interview defending Lori. I understood that they loved her, and I didn’t blast them online… but it was hard not to. I know people like to attack family members of killers. This call is an example of why people shouldn’t do this. I feel bad for having negative thoughts about Summer. You can hear the complete devastation in her voice. I can’t imagine.

    • @i.I.j
      @i.I.j Před rokem +26

      I total agree I feel bad I ever suspected them, what they did was completely natural. This call was painful however summer gave it to her and gave it to her good

    • @dnisa1286
      @dnisa1286 Před rokem +16

      Yep, I was the exact same way. I’m so glad now I never blasted them on FB. My heart breaks for them 😢

    • @Ali-yq1jh
      @Ali-yq1jh Před rokem +13

      Refusal to accept a loved one could commit evil crimes is very normal. It can also go the other way, where loved ones are all too willing to jump to the worst conclusion about a loved one. It's an awful position to be in, no matter what.

    • @Uncensored0.1
      @Uncensored0.1 Před rokem +4

      I agree with you

    • @scarlett6079
      @scarlett6079 Před rokem +4

      💙💙💙

  • @Catfluff521
    @Catfluff521 Před rokem +73

    So hard to understand this audio. Why would she not tell you the children were dead, Summer? Because she was trying to stay out of jail and live happily ever after with the murderer of her children.

    • @tigerlilygirl2643
      @tigerlilygirl2643 Před rokem +19

      East Idaho News has a much clearer recording of this call...

    • @nailbunny2326
      @nailbunny2326 Před rokem +8

      Does it seem like that if Lori had confided in her sister that God told her it was "his plan" to kill the children that she may have gone along with it? I know she says in this recording that killing the kids was absolutely not okay.. ( that tends to go without saying) but she seemed to put a lot more emphasis on feeling betrayed that she wasn't in the loop about it. Alex and Lori seemed to believe they could decide who lives and dies. Could the rest of their family have a similar belief system? Let God's will be done sort of thinking.

    • @joytoyouandme4593
      @joytoyouandme4593 Před rokem +10

      @@tigerlilygirl2643- I believe they have a technician who has been cleaning up the recordings. I’m going to listen to the recording over on Nate’s report.

    • @trickortrump3292
      @trickortrump3292 Před rokem +16

      @@nailbunny2326 It’s not that her sense of betrayal matters more to her than the kids, it’s that it has rocked her world and everything she thought she knew has been shattered. She’s just erupting emotions because she’s shocked and devastated.

    • @charlyhammond5280
      @charlyhammond5280 Před rokem

      Lori helped kill those children there’s no way she didn’t help

  • @repewtadabuta302
    @repewtadabuta302 Před rokem +52

    If there was nothing wrong with killing kids why not just admit it ? Unless you are hiding from the shame . Just like Cain.

    • @tracyrasmussen8117
      @tracyrasmussen8117 Před rokem +14

      That's a great point! So since they've hid it from EVERYONE, that would tell us she KNEW right from wrong. Right??

    • @georgiafain3747
      @georgiafain3747 Před rokem +5

      She has no shame.

    • @ameliasingleton1166
      @ameliasingleton1166 Před rokem +3

      @@tracyrasmussen8117 right

    • @nadinewhite993
      @nadinewhite993 Před rokem +4

      As far as she's concerned she didn't kill the children, she released them to her personal god of choice, she rescued them from demon possession and she's a goddess hero. We're all heathens who don't understand her special magical life or her special magical being.
      Lori, demon slayer, saviour of children!

    • @graedot
      @graedot Před rokem

      Well said.

  • @snicole042
    @snicole042 Před rokem +32

    She’ll encounter real zombies in prison. Those poor babies.

  • @jeneanlindley
    @jeneanlindley Před rokem +129

    OMG - how she (Lori) makes herself the victim. “Nobody knows what I’ve been through.” What a psycho. She’s beyond help, and I would never believe anything she says now or in the future. She is disassociated from reality and a dangerous, master manipulator. She’s repulsive.

    • @Brazzcupake2.0
      @Brazzcupake2.0 Před rokem +13

      And just think, we'll never know what truly happened to Joe Ryan so I wouldn't dare blame Chad for her sick behavior, they're both equally responsible for all of these deaths, including the death of her sick brother Alex too

    • @JaneSmith0709
      @JaneSmith0709 Před rokem +4

      she's a textbook narcissist.

    • @never4saken165
      @never4saken165 Před rokem

      I agree

    • @kirstenpower7902
      @kirstenpower7902 Před rokem

      Exactly what I was gonna say,to say "poor me"says it all wow

    • @MariaLopez-mi4ol
      @MariaLopez-mi4ol Před rokem +2

      Says she raised her kids....UH 7 YRS OLD IS JUST THE BEGINNING AND 16 IS NOT DONE TILL SHE IS 18. That woman needs more than prayer!!!!!!

  • @scarlettsdollartreehacks
    @scarlettsdollartreehacks Před rokem +53

    This is just heartbreaking to listen to. I was one of the people who deeply critized Summer when she did her first interview 2 years ago. But listening to this phone call i can see where it would be almost impossible to believe that your own sister who to loved and grew up with, killed her own children. Lori and Chad are monsters.

  • @stephanim2436
    @stephanim2436 Před rokem +72

    Chad and Lori. Two of the DARKEST of the dark. Consider them zombies and deal with them accordingly.

  • @conlogood1959
    @conlogood1959 Před rokem +23

    This is heartbreaking!! The contrast between Summer and Lori's voices when speaking of those poor children tells everything we need to know about Lori and her involvement. To hear Summer weep like that over those children has me crying. Yet, their mother has little to say??? My God! That is evil on another level!! Chad and Lori need the death penalty.

  • @trinity2145
    @trinity2145 Před rokem +47

    That was truly heartbreaking.

  • @stevebutler812
    @stevebutler812 Před rokem +28

    Lori KNEW the kids were dead & admits “Yeah, months later” & to "going on with my life" after Summer confronts her, “Lori, you were dancing on a beach, with a smile on your face!"

    • @mortalclown3812
      @mortalclown3812 Před rokem +2

      I'm fascinated when people maintain what I'll call 'fluid' morality, ie life laws they invent as they go. In my own life, I've only seen it in the micro.
      This trial is presenting the most horrific version of it - apart from the inner constructs of, say, ruthless dictators.

  • @Hartleymolly
    @Hartleymolly Před rokem +68

    The fact Lori responds with “it was months later” when talking about the kids being dead in the ground, while Lori is on the beach, smiling and getting married, is TELLING.
    I think she might truly be clinically insane, she has no grasp of reality.

    • @rubyoro0
      @rubyoro0 Před rokem +6

      She at least agrees to date of their deaths as LE proposed.

    • @harrietthespy2119
      @harrietthespy2119 Před rokem +13

      It’s such an insanely sociopathic answer🤯…I needed to move on cuz I was so lonely after I killed my husband and kids!!!

    • @MissOrchid12
      @MissOrchid12 Před rokem +3

      It's really hard to comprehend how much could've followed through with all of this, be babbling on about zombies. STILL maintain these warped beliefs & at the same time be smiling & planning her life etc as if it's perfectly normal. Everyone says she's a psychopath (which she may well be) but you'd think then that she would manipulate the narrative by saying it was Chad influenced if that was the case?? Very hard to understand her psychology.

    • @miam1074
      @miam1074 Před rokem

      @@rubyoro0 exactly!

    • @ValCc
      @ValCc Před rokem +2

      I would need longer than months to feel joy again..

  • @inuchan74
    @inuchan74 Před rokem +20

    Idk why, I don't know her but this makes me feel really proud of Summer. She didn't let Lori steam roll her, she didn't kiss Lori's ass at all. I can't imagine what Summer is going through, and probably their mom. After that TV interview, I really wondered if they knew at least something. But the rage and sorrow in Summer's voice tells me she honestly didn't know.

  • @htxtaj
    @htxtaj Před rokem +35

    Summer is my hero. ❤️ She finally said what we all are thinking and I’m glad she didn’t back down!

    • @coffeecake8835
      @coffeecake8835 Před 11 měsíci +2

      I think hero is a strong word. Don’t forget that she and Lori’s mother went on national TV and defended Lori. They’ve been duped by Lori for a long time now.

    • @taylors445
      @taylors445 Před 3 měsíci

      @@coffeecake8835how else would you expect a family member to react when someone they’ve known their entire lives suddenly does something unthinkable? They had no idea that she was capable of such an act. You can hear the disbelief and devastation in that phone call. It’s not like she kept defending her after she found out about the children. That would be a different story. She let Lori know exactly how everyone was feeling. For that I would say she had great character for sticking up to her older sister when she finally saw the truth.

  • @We4redev0
    @We4redev0 Před rokem +46

    Lori needs a casting more than anyone.

  • @MrDavenez
    @MrDavenez Před rokem +47

    I want to know why none of Chad's children were possessed? Did Lori not realize how odd it is that none of Chad's children ever posed a threat of possession ?? Chad wanted Lori's kids out of the way because they were still little. He didn't want them in his way, and Lori is an idiot if she couldn't realize this and knew nothing!!

    • @sixsevenstv446
      @sixsevenstv446 Před rokem +5

      they seem posessed i saw the interview.

    • @marlene9412
      @marlene9412 Před rokem

      I was thinking the same thing I think Chad got off on the power of brainwashing everyone he got Lori mind all twisted she is litterly in sane has checked out of reality

    • @lauriestanevich93
      @lauriestanevich93 Před rokem +3

      Tylee was about 3yrs.from being able to be on her own. Maybe off to college. The deaths of these children are the saddest 😢

    • @rubyoro0
      @rubyoro0 Před rokem +1

      Op, exactly!!

    • @rubyoro0
      @rubyoro0 Před rokem +2

      @@sixsevenstv446 Indeed. Chad’s children seem zombies.

  • @carencarlin4101
    @carencarlin4101 Před rokem +21

    Lori and Chad are pure evil 😡😡😡

  • @sylviagonzalez3811
    @sylviagonzalez3811 Před rokem +44

    Defense has no defense. Trying to paint her as a good mother is not going to save or exonerate her. There's no defense. The sister is understandably extremely upset over the killing of the kids and yet there's no reaction from Lori. She's cold as ice.

    • @tiffanyholman4028
      @tiffanyholman4028 Před rokem +9

      That bothers me, too. So what if she WAS a good mother? She could have been amazing right up until she murdered her children. Then she's protecting Chad and Alex for being involved in killing them? She obviously stopped being a good mother. The defense makes zero sense.

    • @sonyagower7224
      @sonyagower7224 Před rokem +6

      Idk Casey Anthony was painted as a bad mom and still got away with murder

    • @nuracaicedo2632
      @nuracaicedo2632 Před rokem +1

      I'm sure she was a good mother at one time as soon as she met Chad daybell the cult murderer and killer.. her life was fuked up!!! Lori is insane she needs to be found guilty within A reasonable doubt of insanity.. she's insane she needs to be put in a mental hospital for the rest of her life under supervision and observation. and she should be given medication so that she has a clear mind of what she done to her kids and maybe one day she'll wake up and then make the truth and let the cult in the devil out of her mind she's possessed...

  • @tracymaxson7327
    @tracymaxson7327 Před rokem +37

    She is going to blame Chad and Alex!

    • @Hartleymolly
      @Hartleymolly Před rokem +3

      I don’t think so, I think she literally believes this crap! But, I could be wrong 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @rubyoro0
      @rubyoro0 Před rokem +8

      @@Hartleymolly They already set the stage before trial that Alex would be blamed.

    • @miam1074
      @miam1074 Před rokem

      @@rubyoro0 from the cross you can get where they are going with this. they will try to convince the jury that she was not responsible because she was misled, manipulated, and hypnotized into a trance by CHD, so she lost all critical faculties and became a different person. That is their angle.

    • @freddog4490
      @freddog4490 Před rokem +4

      She will have a hard time convincing anyone that she knew nothing of what was going on, when her husband was shot by brother she was so flippant with the police outside and said “ WE’VE ONLY BEEN HERE A FEW DAY SORRY NEIGHBOURS “ who in their right mind would say that ???????. And then went on to have a pool party at night !!!!!! And as for saying the children wee safe well EVEN IF SHE KNEW NOTHING OF THE KILLINGS I’M PRETTY SURE WE WOULD ALL REACT TO FINDING OUT THEY WERE DEAD. IN MY HUMBLE OPINION THEY SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT THE BACK OF THE COURT HOUSE AND GIVEN A WEE BIT OF LEAD BEHIND THE EAR AND SAVE A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY AND HEART BREAK TO THE FAMILIES LEFT IN THEIR WAKE. 💉💉

    • @thetruthdatedr.4766
      @thetruthdatedr.4766 Před rokem +2

      Just Alex. I dont think shes going to blame her precious Peter Griffin

  • @angelaandra4659
    @angelaandra4659 Před rokem +14

    This phone call was very lethargic! To hear someone yell at Lori and confront her like that is something that I personally have wanted to do, but I lived up in Rexburg at the time that the kids first went missing.
    So hearing her sister yell at her was very, very, um... therapeutic.

    • @TG-fq6vy
      @TG-fq6vy Před rokem +15

      I think you mean cathartic

  • @-norsecode-
    @-norsecode- Před rokem +23

    TELL HER, SUMMER!!! YES, QUEEN!!!!

    • @marlene9412
      @marlene9412 Před rokem +1

      She defending the kids Lori made her ass look so dumb ugh she musta felt like a fool but she gave it to her good nice job summer!

  • @mariedibuono8932
    @mariedibuono8932 Před rokem +19

    That women is out of her mind. She’s out of reality . What a sick human.

    • @mortalclown3812
      @mortalclown3812 Před rokem +7

      I'm getting more curious about the distinction between crazy and plain old mean and evil.

    • @reginablevins8550
      @reginablevins8550 Před rokem +2

      The distinction where the law is concerned is if Lori knew she was doing wrong when she killed those kids. And someone who hides it or denys it obviously knows she was breaking the law.

  • @Kim-Berly200
    @Kim-Berly200 Před rokem +82

    Lori seems oblivious to the pain and devastation her actions have caused to so many😢 She lives inside her own broken brain 😢

    • @trickortrump3292
      @trickortrump3292 Před rokem +8

      Is she oblivious to it or does she just not care about it?

    • @mortalclown3812
      @mortalclown3812 Před rokem +6

      ​@@trickortrump3292 Probably an ironic combination of the two. I'm glad this isn't televised, tbh. It's just too gruesome to comprehend. But it does seem like the evidence against her seems staggering.

    • @janegardener1662
      @janegardener1662 Před rokem +5

      @@trickortrump3292 She thought she was putting the children out of the misery of being zombies. She truly believed what Chad told her.

    • @eh1702
      @eh1702 Před rokem +10

      No, she did not believe it. She was very careful who she told this demon stuff to. Right after Charles was shot, listen to her describe with apparent pride how smart Tylee is. Who she has been saying for weeks now has a dark soul. Not one mention of demons where Charles is concerned either. I have never known anyone with that sort of delusion be COY or SELECTIVE about their delusion.

    • @kateashby3066
      @kateashby3066 Před rokem +5

      @@trickortrump3292 I think she’s oblivious. She was WAYYYY too sloppy with the murders to be aware that what she was doing was so bad. She knew it was wrong but she seemed to convince herself that if she just told everyone the kids were away, that no one would ever ask her about them again 🤦🏻‍♀️ she didn’t plan that at all. She just ran off and got married, and planned the wedding before chads wife died- which is incriminating as hell. She’s a delusional narcissist.

  • @mortalclown3812
    @mortalclown3812 Před rokem +27

    In the beginning, I worried that they didn't have enough evidence for a trial, much less a conviction. Now, the evidence against her seems staggering.
    This was the most heartbreaking testimony/phone call yet.

  • @princesstakaloo
    @princesstakaloo Před rokem +14

    This is quite possibly the most heartbreaking thing I will ever hear. Her pain compared to how absolutely cold the actual mother is is horrific. There is no craziness, no insanity, no defect whatsoever- Lori vallow is just a 100% narcissist psychopath evil cold blooded killer.

  • @dinam7144
    @dinam7144 Před rokem +12

    Maximum Narcissism Lori says “What about me!! “ I’m sick of her!

  • @staceys213
    @staceys213 Před rokem +22

    It is very convenient Lori can’t talk about it. Those poor poor children. I cannot begin to imagine their last moments on this earth. It is truly unimaginable. I really hate the world I live in anymore. So much evil. 💔💔

    • @harrietthespy2119
      @harrietthespy2119 Před rokem +3

      We’re not all evil!!

    • @liviamoon
      @liviamoon Před rokem +2

      ​@@harrietthespy2119 🙏♥️🕊

    • @cosmicmuffin322
      @cosmicmuffin322 Před rokem +1

      The world isn't evil, but we are waking up to the fact that human predators exist. Some people - psychopaths, sociopaths, narcissists, and people with cluster B personality disorders - are without empathy, conscience, and remorse. They are the predators of the human species. Sometimes they're physical predators, or emotional predators. But we need to understand them so normal people can protect ourselves - because they can't be cured and they don't want to change.

    • @basicleighdisney5643
      @basicleighdisney5643 Před rokem

      The evil has always been here, but it's the vessels that change. The first murder ever was familial. Idk why everyone acts like this is a new thing.

    • @Carol-eh3jz
      @Carol-eh3jz Před rokem

      @Cosmic Muffin Are you a professional psychologist ,

  • @paulcarver7880
    @paulcarver7880 Před rokem +12

    This.. "It is not what it appears to be" And btw, "I love my children more than anything in the world." "Attitude" is disgusting!! 🤢

  • @euodiaclitterhouse4726
    @euodiaclitterhouse4726 Před rokem +11

    Lori is so predictable, like all narcissists, it's insane to hear her repeated lines: "Fine. Hate me like the rest of the world does." "You're just listening to the media." "You know me."
    Can she hear herself?? I guess not. Even the way she answered the call. As soon as she hears that someone is upset, she puts up her defensive "what about me?" shield. Her voice changed to greet Summer's broken "Not good" with another "Not goo-ood" as though she was saying, "Well, don't blame me. Don't put those emotions on me with any kind of expectation..."
    Normally a narcissist would at least receive the cue that they need to *perform* emotions to match what people expect of them in the moment, perform grief, sadness, anything. But she barely bothers. The nonchalance, the calm, the contempt for people who are upset with her... Even her concessional laughter while people she is supposed to love are in agony over the kids... It's like she doesn't even register how she is coming across. It really indicates to me that she thinks she is a god walking among mortals and that this whole trial is the wicked world dragging her down from her higher purpose.

  • @mommylamour4562
    @mommylamour4562 Před rokem +12

    "I had to go on with my life ... be happy... do you think i want to be alone " her calm responses would be too much for me to continue to talk to her 😢 I hope this is incriminating enough to the jury

    • @susanna8612
      @susanna8612 Před rokem +2

      Well, narcissists has 0 difficulties to "move on" "go on" after they have destroyed and cut people out from their lives. Those kids meant nothing to her.
      Meanwhile, her own family including his adult son, parents, sister, the children's grandparents strugle to get over the crief and are going through the hell...
      Yeah, thats what self centered narcissists, sociopaths do to people. And like the loss they felt was not enough, the ultimate betrayal what anyone who knew these 2 psychopaths must have felt.

    • @mommylamour4562
      @mommylamour4562 Před rokem +1

      @@susanna8612 Yes! I know she would not have supported her sister the way her sister supported her.

  • @Cedartree-cf6om
    @Cedartree-cf6om Před rokem +13

    Same Lori responses to everyone. No heart but for herself. Hell is waiting for her.

  • @NationandState
    @NationandState Před rokem +10

    Subtitles would have been nice.

  • @TravelingJinx
    @TravelingJinx Před rokem +10

    I hate how she keeps saying “I’d love to” about explaining. THEN DO IT WTF

  • @liviamoon
    @liviamoon Před rokem +7

    In that phone call Lori proved to me that she knew her children were dead. When she talked about her wedding. That it was months ago.

  • @chrisk6675
    @chrisk6675 Před rokem +6

    Interesting that none of Chads kids were deemed "zombies".

  • @marya4717
    @marya4717 Před rokem +9

    My heart breaks for Summer. She is truly devastated and appears in great pain. May God comfort her. I'm so sorry for all of this horror.

  • @bangbangscrewtube4715
    @bangbangscrewtube4715 Před rokem +7

    Did Lori say “I took care of them their WHOLE LIVES”?? What? A whole 7 years ( not even) and a WHOLE 16 years wow

  • @lisamonroe2576
    @lisamonroe2576 Před rokem +9

    What kills me about this stupid ass call is the fact that this family’s delusional way of thinking is no wonder where Lori gets it from. The fact that Summer doesn’t mention the mysterious deaths of both Lori’s husband (who was THE ONLY ONE WHO really CARED about those children ) way before the dumb ass family watched her delusions to grow more and more. Then the mysterious death of Lori’s husband last wife should have raised alarm bells to the family before those babies were murdered. That family still decided to go on national television to defend Lori’s logic for not telling the authorities where the children were. Summer still during the call was trying to convince herself of the disgusting acts committed by Lori. This entire family is selfish and self centered because that poor man sent them numerous emails warning them of her delusions and her strange behavior of extreme paranoia.

    • @karenguidry6110
      @karenguidry6110 Před rokem +2

      I thought the same thing but then I wondered if she (and Lori's son) were coached by police or prosecution to try to get Lori to confess

  • @gayleoverly7613
    @gayleoverly7613 Před rokem +9

    My child is almost 30. I have actually called the police when I didn’t know where she was when she was an adult. Lori is as evil as it gets. She destroyed so many lives. Greed and lust are deadly sins

    • @Uncensored0.1
      @Uncensored0.1 Před rokem

      You put the words out of my mouth!

    • @susanna8612
      @susanna8612 Před rokem +1

      The difference is that u didnt know where your adult child was but she knew exactly where her children were. She Is sociopath and trying to explaine even moral right and wrong to person who has no sense of empathy and who only uses people for her own gain is waste of time.

    • @gayleoverly7613
      @gayleoverly7613 Před rokem +1

      @@susanna8612 exactly. She knew her kids were dead and buried. She’s as evil as it gets

  • @carrieday8423
    @carrieday8423 Před rokem +10

    Omg😢 her poor sister .... I can only imagine her pain, knowing she defended her sister , just to know it was all LIES😢

  • @princesstakaloo
    @princesstakaloo Před rokem +5

    "Smiling and dancing and taking photos on the beach" whilst knowing her children had been murdered, burned and buried. Only The most evil demon is capable of such behaviour. Lock her up and never give it chance to live happily ever.

  • @sherryhunt3995
    @sherryhunt3995 Před rokem +12

    I felt like her and her mother were ridiculous when I watched them when them on national tv, to vow their loyalty towards Lori now I see they are just another victim of Chad and Lori’s deranged scam. Listening to their voice interacting, it seems as one is grieving and distraught but the other is distant, deranged, and very much self righteous.

  • @kwakena
    @kwakena Před rokem +12

    Have mercy Lord! 😢 My heart BREAKS for her and all who truly loved these kids and Tammy! 💔💔💔 Praying for them and for justice for them all! 🙏🏾

  • @argosz8046
    @argosz8046 Před rokem +6

    Summer's devastation is palpable. As usual, Lori sounds bored with the "drama" and would rather go get her nails done.

  • @MzJade225
    @MzJade225 Před rokem +6

    Omg I feel so bad about judging Summer in the past video. This was agonizing to listen to. I cant even imagine.

  • @NativeNYerChicHK
    @NativeNYerChicHK Před rokem +4

    Oh, the utter devastation in her voice is shattering 😢💔 While her murderous calculated heartless sister stays as cold as ice while discussing her dead children 🤬

  • @ValCc
    @ValCc Před rokem +8

    Oh My God. The cruelty of this tragedy is unfathomable.

  • @mthomas3547
    @mthomas3547 Před rokem +4

    The absolute hurt and anger in Summer's voice. Very difficult.

  • @reneerogers1865
    @reneerogers1865 Před rokem +3

    The sound of heartbreak, grief, shock and anger in this goes straight to your soul

  • @amybaby04
    @amybaby04 Před rokem +8

    Honest question.. Who is the BIGGEST monster? Lorie or Letesha? I can't believe these TWO monsters where walking this earth at the same time.. 😭

  • @JL-zn7me
    @JL-zn7me Před rokem +13

    That sadistic murder should have to get on the stand - NO CHOICE!!! If the death penalty went off the table, then she has to get on the stand!!! She keeps telling everyone in her family “I can’t talk about it, You wouldn’t understand “- THEN PUT HER UP THERE AND FINALLY TELL THE WORLD HOW YOU SO DIABOLICALLY TOOK TWO BEAUTIFUL CHILDRENS LIVES!!!!!!

    • @mortalclown3812
      @mortalclown3812 Před rokem

      All the shrieking in the world doesn't change the law. FYI, people can't be forced to testify against themselves.
      It's naive to think LVD would take an oath to tell the truth and then do so.
      Yes, this case is horrific and upsetting - thank God for dispassionate jurisprudence.

  • @MissJacqification
    @MissJacqification Před rokem +3

    A lot of misery could have been prevented if the police would have investigated Charles' claims instead of falling for the "pretty" looks of Lori... once again, people are fooled by the superficial and see the results...

  • @kathywinecoff4141
    @kathywinecoff4141 Před rokem +4

    Man, that was painful to listen to.😭😭😭

  • @siomai.rice27
    @siomai.rice27 Před rokem +6

    As much as i want to hear the trial.. i so wanna see their faces... and that stenographer is triggering me. That clickity clackity is triggering.
    But yeah, Lori is a psychopath. I cant stand the trial. I'll wait for the verdict. ✌

  • @Mandible_
    @Mandible_ Před rokem +4

    After watching Summer on Dateline so adamant that Lori had nothing to do with the disappearance of the kids … she finally seen what the truth was. Hallelujah. 🙏

  • @psmith9789
    @psmith9789 Před rokem +11

    There's a much clearer audio on another channel.

  • @CW1971
    @CW1971 Před rokem +1

    Is there anywhere where this witnesses testimony is played with decent volume? They're all really quiet, can't the sound be boosted?

  • @Micah-6.8
    @Micah-6.8 Před rokem +3

    Lori used everyone. Her family sided with her during her separation from Charles and would not talk to him. Then she leaves and goes to stay with Chad and stops talking to her family at all and tells them nothing that is happening with her or the children. She then said to her son and her sister that they don't know what happened-well, that's because she herself cut off contact with everyone.

  • @1972dsrai
    @1972dsrai Před rokem +2

    Her sister couldn’t have put it any better when she said no one understands what she’s been through. She was seen laughing and dancing on a beach. Not exactly the actions of a troubled person.

  • @tru3293
    @tru3293 Před rokem +2

    Most important witness with the shortest testimony.

  • @SherryBaby2003
    @SherryBaby2003 Před rokem +2

    She could have given the kids away if she didn’t want them

  • @robinroupe9940
    @robinroupe9940 Před rokem +3

    Lori’s reaction, calm and collected, goes to show just how much of a narcissist psychopath she truly is.
    This isn’t about religion this about her and the sucker Chad. She drove the car he was a complicit passenger just like her brother was.

  • @dianadowie3985
    @dianadowie3985 Před rokem +3

    This is so sad and heartbreaking! That conversation between Summer and Lori was sad because Summer believe that b/s story Lori told originally. She called her sister Lori on her lies.

  • @mserica602
    @mserica602 Před rokem

    That was hard to listen too. The pain in the Aunt voice had me in tears by the end. I couldn't imagine if it was my niece and nephew. This entire case is beyond sad.

  • @sydneyreynolds6967
    @sydneyreynolds6967 Před rokem +13

    It's gut wrenching for Summer and Lori is so detached "I took care of them their whole life" their short life until they became zombies. Lori doesn't have a problem with their deaths because in her mind the Lord (Chad) ordained it. Lori is an absolute oxygen thief.

  • @epinkus
    @epinkus Před rokem

    I’m trying to follow the transcript but it’s not clear. Who writes out what is said?

  • @Stopstaring101
    @Stopstaring101 Před rokem +3

    Really hard to hear what the sisters are saying to each other .

  • @Angelica-uo7bw
    @Angelica-uo7bw Před rokem +5

    If she really believed this was all for some rare connection with God or his plan, she would shout it proudly to the world in the name of her religion. She wouldn't act so secretive about it. She only loves herself, no emotion or human feelings for anything or anyone else.

    • @susanna8612
      @susanna8612 Před rokem +2

      Her only feelings and emotions are lust, power, greed, hate and joy when she gets what she wants.

  • @Lunt26
    @Lunt26 Před rokem +2

    Wow…. The pain you hear. I can’t finish listening omg😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔💔

  • @aprilg3299
    @aprilg3299 Před rokem +4

    So sad for this family.... I hope they all get some help ..god bless them.

  • @flannerymonaghan-morris4825
    @flannerymonaghan-morris4825 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Good god, I feel horrible for Summer…
    She’s understandably hurt, and she is now forced to confront the fact that her own sister, someone she deeply loved and thought she knew, did the unthinkable: killed her own children, just so she could live the life that she wanted to.
    You can hear her heartbreak, terror, horror, shock, and outright fury in this. And now you have to live with the fact that your own sister did this.
    People tend to forget that loved ones of the perpetrators are just as affected by the killer’s actions as the victim’s loved ones are.
    RIP Tylee and JJ. You didn’t deserve what happened to you both.

  • @Feebee0622
    @Feebee0622 Před rokem +3

    I literally started crying this is devastating

  • @jennawren1672
    @jennawren1672 Před rokem +1

    This is absolutely heartbreaking 😢

  • @TeresaAnnAskew
    @TeresaAnnAskew Před rokem +5

    Hello, thank you streaming this😢 sad case………. really feel for summer that phone call was heartbreaking💔. She was absolutely devastated, and in disbelief and shock at what her sister has done….. Lori is a pure monster👹…….. kim🇬🇧

  • @susangale4586
    @susangale4586 Před rokem +5

    Accept the fact that Lori is and has always been manipulating everyone her whole life. Let her go.

  • @handyuk
    @handyuk Před rokem +3

    Just hope camera's will be allowed in court when she's sentenced so we can see justice being done

  • @rogcat7181
    @rogcat7181 Před rokem +2

    Heartbreaking 😢

  • @rosierousseau7889
    @rosierousseau7889 Před rokem +1

    Hey Paul.Thank u so much for covering this trial,, man I don't believe this woman , is beyond awful, .. hate what she did so much! 💙💙

  • @eh1702
    @eh1702 Před rokem +2

    Isn’t it extraordinary how all a person has to do to get people to commit atrocities, or tie people up in knots for her, is just consistently claim to love them. Just trot out the words, however coldly, and it works a powerful magic.

  • @itzJuztThomas
    @itzJuztThomas Před rokem

    Absolutely heartbreaking.

  • @katherineharvey3669
    @katherineharvey3669 Před rokem +2

    I hope her sister sees her for what she is. A cold monster

  • @Citizen1910
    @Citizen1910 Před rokem +2

    Can’t hear this recording

  • @mondoenterprises6710
    @mondoenterprises6710 Před rokem +12

    Lori loves that it's all about her. This is her life's starring role. Now everyone knows her name and that she is God's chosen one!

  • @jennawren1672
    @jennawren1672 Před rokem +1

    Heart wrenching 😢

  • @Michele-bm1zu
    @Michele-bm1zu Před rokem +2

    "Nobody in the world knows what I've been through"
    That was her only response..after having her children murdered. She was able to get married and have a smile on her face when her children were gone, buried in a fucking backyard. I will never have any remorse and I will never understand.
    I would end my life if my daughter was murdered. I would not want to live another minute without her. I would gladly leave everything behind to go to heaven and be with her. What is wrong with people?

  • @mauricegifford153
    @mauricegifford153 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Having an older sibling, I could only imagine being in the situation where are you do love them and see the truth, but also see the darkness you know your siblings inside and out left and right it’s very #SadMental 😢😢😢

  • @leesadexter7187
    @leesadexter7187 Před rokem

    With the cross-examination I'm wondering what his angle is

  • @amy-annesmith8526
    @amy-annesmith8526 Před rokem +1

    She admits clearly in this call that she knew they were dead, there’s no way now that she can try to claim that she didn’t.

  • @chrissyart7984
    @chrissyart7984 Před rokem +4

    I think Most of her family knew Alot& Saw her changes ,Since Chad got in the pic... if Someone in the family died? They wouldn't Even Notify the Family about the Deceased family member! Appalling!! That's Right Even her own Sister said, she didn't make sense 😮I think her Mother knew a hell of alot more, than any other family member.!! The Mother also knew that Alex, her Son was a Hitman!!!This Family is So Deranged With Lori being the Worst of the Worse!

  • @AngelBaby-ek3wu
    @AngelBaby-ek3wu Před rokem

    Does anyone know if LD will testify?

  • @pearlmay8647
    @pearlmay8647 Před rokem +3

    This is heartbreaking. Lori has no regard for anyone's feelings. All she cares about is what she wants. No regard for her own children's lives.. IMO she is pure evil and very cold hearted.

  • @leesadexter7187
    @leesadexter7187 Před rokem +3

    Also what gets me is when Lori is confronted with anything all she says is, YOU KNOW ME.. never an explanation it's always just those words. Like she doesn't have to defend herself because they know that she would never do that but she did