Daryl Hall sues former music partner John Oates
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- čas přidán 22. 11. 2023
- While most details of the lawsuit are sealed, the case type as filed in Nashville court lists “contract/debt." A judge also granted Hall a temporary restraining order against Oates.
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“Hall & Oates” turned into “Hall VS Oates”.
This is Daryl Hall's fault. John Oates is the long-suffering partner. "Not a creative partner" is about the worst thing to say to a co-creator. Hall has never acknowledged the creative debt he owes to John Oates and his R & B influence.
I agree. Daryl's ego is inflated, and it's just ridiculous. John has always been a chill, humble guy. This is also a slap in all of our faces who are lifelong fans.
@@bigbrowneyes4uyes I agree, I grew up with these guys as one of my all time favorites. Always been fussing n fighting in the past with these two n it's Daryl's fault huge ego problem. You're killing us guys
@@michellestone1261So true, and it comes off as Daryl being a bully. He has even mentioned in interviews in the past that John is the passive one, etc. The whole situation is disappointing 😕.
Thank you for the way you expressed that. I have been trying to figure out why this bothers me so much...and I think that lack of respect is a big part of it. @@bigbrowneyes4u
couldnt agree more.. life is like that at times.. at their very peak, oates was openly slighted with the h20 shit.. everyone forgot that in the very beginning, it was more oates than hall.. their very first hit that put them on the map was written and instrumentalized by john oates, based solely on his solo life experience.. without shes gone, theres no h and o.. they play it on every tour.. its their signature! john wrote or co wrote MOST of their pre private eyes stuff.. he let daryl shine as a frontman.. always joking about being the worlds most expense backup singer...
the real jealousy from daryl is that in the past five years, john actually has more solo gigs and has eclipsed daryl as a solo artist.. his last record charted better than any of daryls recent stuff, has received a lot of acclaim and respect in nashville.. he doesnt need daryl anymore.. in many ways, their roles have reversed but daryl still wants to act like its the 80s and hes the older brother or unquestioned leader! john should counter sue and restrain daryl from playing any hall and oates songs..
what i heard is that john wants to sell and daryl doesn't!
This is extremely sad for me to hear. You got to be kidding me ! I love them both.Their music I has always been such a big part of me growing up! Every single song I loved . They both were creators of their music. I love Daryl’s voice but I honestly have to say John played a huge role and sang too. Playing an instrument of music 🎶 is creative in itself. My brother plays guitar and piano and synthesizer . Come on guys grow up and acknowledge each other ! There is more to life than money and ego. Love and friendship is the most important.😢❤
Well said
@@jeffherron3844 thank you!!
My comment is probably late. I did not know they had an arguement.
I always thought of John being under Daryl. Like Andrew with George Michael. You also barely can hear John.
It's pretty rude and disrespectful to tell people to grow up when you're on the outside looking in on a situation that has nothing to do with you. Maybe their dispute has a lot more details than they are willing to release to the public and out of respect for one another, they choose not to air it out. Maybe they SHOULD just forget about everything and keep churning out the hits because that's what YOU want. The world revolves and you, right?! Why don't you do the growing up and not try to promote tearing people down because they aren't saints. Try considering the era they were big in and realize these guys problems are mild compared to everyone else. These guys aren't druggies and/or sexual deviants so relax
@@daniellamy1585 true. It is their own personal business. But Robert Plant said in an interview that the public is the one that makes you rich and famous. So your whole personal life is now public property. I would never wanna be famous and have people in your business. But that is the life that celebrities choose.
Daryl is also suing John Oates’ Mustache.
This is a huge shock and a very sad day for us fans
Yes, it is, friendship, songwriting partner(s) even when you're apart, is forever
@@KymelieLeonard-wb6bw Exactly
I hope they can find a way to work this out.
@@StarZendonna1687Same here!!
Jokes aside this is very sad, They are very iconic duo, Other bands like New Order and Tears for Fears have had similar disputes
The scary thing is that if you look up the songs that John wrote were some of the groups biggest hits.
maneater, out of touch, shes gone.. las vegas turnaround.. how does it fell to b back (top 40 lead song from voices).. apart from that, he contributed nothing! 😂😩🫣🤦
@@imagydmusic1129 Sara smile, I can't go for that, she's gone..I guess Daryl can sing Kiss On My List on a loop at his next concert 🤣
@@imagydmusic1129 ...don't forget "Possession Obsession"! ...and, Daryl trying to steal the spotlight from John, in the Video!
So what? Takes a groupe.... without both none of this would happen.
John Oates wrote maneater & he should be able to sing his own songs
Wow, what’s unfortunate! Would’ve never saw this discord coming decades later.
Words from Daryl's own mouth the creative partnership end in 1975......
For those coming to this story late, the legal action is to block Oates from selling his share of their joint enterprise to an investment firm. Hall claims the proposed sale process breaks a confidentiality agreement the two had over their business partnership. It appears that Hall doesn't want to lose any additional control over his own publishing rights, and anyone who knows a little about the music business can understand why.
This makes so much sense. Do you have a source for this particular context?
@@TaylorTrask Cheers. Most of the current reporting on the story is discussing these details. The most recent story I've seen can currently be found on the home page of Rolling Stone.
Oh....that changes everything.
True, and I wonder why GMA chose to obfuscate that as it’s the main reason for the lawsuit.
I've seen this coming. I love both of them and can see both of their contributions to the music... and the show. Old age is setting in and apparently, like a lot of us, they're losing insight. And, Daryl seems to be making some thoughtless comments. It's too bad. Come on boys!
Daryl Hall is a closet racist just like his unfunny new buddy Bill Maher.
many iconic musicians had bitter falling outs
""" The BEST SELLING DUO of All TIME! They Had over 30 SINGLES that CHARTED! This is Really SAD to Hear!
After Daryl Hall’s comments with Bill Maher my stomach turned .
I think GMA are only "assuming" that the dispute is regarding John performing Hall and Oates songs but this makes no sense as half of Daryl's solo show is H&O tracks including Out Of Touch which is primarily an Oates composition.
He owns them. Cease and desist.
its about john wanting to sell his compilation and daryl not wanting to b beholden to new business partners..
Daryl Hall is either drinking more or he is surrounded with a-holes giving him bad advice. What is evident is that there would be no Daryl Hall without John Oates
"...or he is surrounded with a-holes giving him bad advice..." ..that Robert Fripp dude HAS been in Daryl's ear lately....
To JordanDave: Wisest comment: " There would be no Daryl Hall without John Oates."
Daryl said I can't go for that no nooooo
😂😂😂EXCELLENT RESPONSE. HAPPY THANKSGIVING 😊.
😂❤
no can do
Everybody suing everyone these days. Signs that people are broke. Also I saw them live before. Great show😊
You could say it's a case of possession obsession.
I think Daryl could never accept that he wasn't a successful solo artist. He probably assumed after ,"the BIg 80's " that he would naturally become as successful on his own as with John. That of course, never happened.
User you show up again. For once, I agree with you. Best
I believe it 100%. Jealousy rears its ugly head.
His show is good from his house that he has guests and they sing together.
OK so what about when Daryl sang the hit songs at Daryl's house without John? Should John be able to sue then too?
John wants to sell his portion of their music...Daryl doesn't want him to do that ...this is really what this is all about ..they just aren't telling us that part
@@nightflight1454 I heard this was one of the issues which if they both signed the contract regarding the selling of music then Daryl is right, but his character is out of line when he told Oates to leave his music out of his mouth as if Daryl was solo when they had the hits and leaving him little credit as if he wasn’t much of a creative partner, but if that was the case why wasn’t this a problem when they had all of those hits? Why now? Why is Hall allowed to sing solo and with others but John can’t? Definitely not right. While Daryl is an excellent musician, I am convinced without John that he would have never made it like he did.
@@NoPoliticalAffiliation You are right, but big money changes everything .There's so much in the details that we will never hear about .These guys are approaching the end of days ,and they likely have lots of issues
Everyone wants their money,their fair money anyway.If you felt that you were to have yours and John Oates is the cause,you would've sued too.
This is all Yoko's fault!!!
They're out of touch..
😂😂😂
What in the Abandoned Luncheonette is going on ?? Sounds like someone(Mr Hall) is getting greedy. For my part, there is no Hall without Oates. Therefore John Oates should be able to sing those songs they Both made popular together.
...and, they had the BEST backgrounds!! ...I LOVED their, "...ahhhhh-AHHH-ahhhhhh..." 's! ...and you KNEW it was them, 'cause you could HEAR them ...Hall, AND Oates!
What's sad is they were successful as a duo. They'll never make it solo. They need each other. Move aside the greed or fall by the waist side and become like multitudes of lost singers like tears in the rain. And Daryl that wasn't nice to suggest you are the only creative talent. You both are. You should apologize to John.
I agree
I also agree.
Yes they Always needed each other. I have never appreciated their solo carreers.
@@zenildotabosaviana9663 you need to tell Darrell he think it all about him
Wow!! They have been together for atleast almost 50 years and now they can't stand to be around each other?!! How can they be friends for so long, and then all of a sudden they are at each others throats?!! This is very sad, indeed . 😔
Apparently, they were never friends. Just business partners.
Damn I Hate To Hear That. They Were The Ultimate Duo In The 80's Love Love Love Them And Their Music!!!🤎
So sad ! I just watched the interview Bill Maher did Daryl and I was very surprised with the Daryl's comments about John 😢
I hope they work it out.
It would be a pity that they end on this way.
I love them both ❤
You breakin' fans hearts 💔
Oh-no! All the songs we have from them are part of who we are. I hope they can settle things amicably. Life‘s too short. Stay focused on the good things. 🥰
this break-up has ruined thanksgiving.
After being together for all of those years, you would think at their age in their late 70's, they would reconcile. Acting like 12 year olds... When one of these guys passes, the other would probably have many regrets of how their long time relationship ended..Patch it up, Hall and Oates before its too late!....Oops, I meant Daryl Hall and John Oates...
It is what it is. Too much greed
Greed. They both should be able to sing the group's songs independently. What's the big deal? It's not like they are a contemporary band. They've had their day in the sun...time to move on.
Totally agree
Daryl Hall is cringy bad. Hang it up has-been egomaniac. And now you’re suing your long time partner, John Oates. Some people age gracefully. Some people become crotchety, bitter in their old age. Daryl Hall is clearly the latter and has lost my respect.
Not true. I’ve been grumpy and crotchety since I been wearing underoos
@@gfunk63901he speaking of daryl are you daryl ?
@@falanajerido875gfunk was just joking.
I can't go for that
Nope. No can do
@@gfunk63901 i can't go for that. no no. no can do.
So Hall claims they are friends but he does this. He says they are business partners which they are, but he says they are not creative partners. He says he has issue with Oates playing H&O songs when he does solo shows. Okay so that means Oates essentially is just a hired hand on stage and on recordings so he can't play songs Hall wrote.
Maybe there is more to this than we know but it seems so wrong on Hall's part not letting Oates play the songs he is part of.
This is very very very very and can I say again very SAD!!!😢😢 This group is a part of my life growing up! They are my family that I never got a chance to meet. I really pray that they can come to an amicable agreement outside of the courtroom. Even if it might have not been so to them, they are in a way family. Family should be able to work things out to the benefit of everyone.
They'll always be known as Hall & Oates to the world 👽🖖✌️
Very sad and unfortunate. Would hope after all this time grown men would be able to work things out without lawyers.
Pathetic. I'm retired and live on a very strict budget and I'm as happy as can be. These guys are millionaires and THIS is how their spend their time, fighting over nonsense?!? Blows my mind. WOW
Yall make so much of great songs together give what is due to the other.
I cannot believe this. I always admired how they were such good friends. Their music is awesome.
Apparently, they were never friends. Just business partners.
That's deep. But there are other groups and artists, sch as the "White Chocolate", as Black people called her back in the day, the great Teena Marie, who sued Barry Gordy and Motown, and actually won the lawsuit, and it is well know in R&B circles, that they have always remained friends, it's just a business thing with those royalties and all that which have to get straightened out.
This has nothing to do with the music or the business. This has to do with some strife between the two. And that drives the anger and actions that we are seeing now. This is incredibly sad. Both amazing contributions to the Hall & Oates history. My only wish is that there is some reconciliation between them. Make no mistake about it, they are both suffering as a result of it.
The Monkeys, the Beatles, etc
sad ...when you grow old you do it together... hes become very childish...spoilt brat....
Daryl Hall is petty. Suing his partner at 79 years old! I think you made your money.
Couldn't they have worked out the solo tour stuff years ago? Of course solo they're gonna do Hall and Oates songs no matter what.
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I've worked in various minor roles in the music biz and played with some names, and unfortunately, this is actually more common than people realize. As musicians age and can no longer get hits on the radio (a medium the Web pretty much destroyed anyway) they have to protect their income streams, and that's why you see so many of these aging acts mired in lawsuits over names and brand use. Many people would be surprised how close to poverty some of their classic rock heroes are at the moment, because they got screwed in a publishing deal or over royalties. It's also why you'll often see two or three versions of the band on tour, since litigious members can't play together without wanting to kill each other but all need the money that came from them being together in the first place. In their case, they made the mistake of using both their names as their brand, thus forever linking them in the public and making it difficult for both of them to simply make money as solo artists. I hope they just come up with an out-of-court settlement as they have a great musical legacy and I would hate to see this be the final chapter. But then again, even the Beatles ended their actual time as a band together suing each other for a couple of years.
hall is on tour with Rundgren they were here in Manila a few weeks ago was a great show
This is so sad.
Is it too late for a steel cage match? If Ric Flair can still climb into a ring in his 70s, while not Hall & Oates?
Hall & Nash ? Lol
I remember reading a Daryl Hall interview over 30 years ago. He was definitely into himself. He came off sounding like a disingenuous, self absorbed tool.
I figure the only reason that they still work(ed) together because it was in their best interest to do so.
ya thats bad
Vince Clarke and Andy Bell are the last duo standing 💪...38 years and counting.
there's also OMD as their album debuted at #2 in the u.k. charts. the stones went top 10 this year in both the u.s. and u.k. we all know about mick and keith had issues but they're in a good place.
@@thevoid99 The Stones don't count. They are (were) a five-piece band.
😢😢 really I love hall&oats
Say It Isn’t So! Daryl is a diva. H&O are one of my favorite performers of all time, so this hits me hard. SMH!
yes. he is. RMFE too. hope he will get over himself lol
Why do they have the comments section way down here? Anyway, high schoolers have never even heard of Darryl Hall and John Oates. And if they listened to their music, they might think, "Whose grandpa's are these guys, anyway?" Whatever. To music fans, music is a religion. It's sacred. But to people who have to earn their living off of music,
every day is a battle for survival, being able to pay the grocery bill, and the other essential bills. These two guys have nothing in common with most musical duos, who are just scraping by.
How sad, however, not surprising when you listen to the things that Daryl has said about John over the years.
The ego coming from Hall. But that's how it goes. Get an agreement on paper then perform
This is sad. Praying for unity.
What??? No! 😢 I swear in these last days Satan has a Spirit of Division covering everything and everyone. No relationship is Sacred anymore. We have to rebuke it.
Hall performs all the songs on his live from Darryl's house. Hall is a jerk
Indeed he does. Every episode.
Very sad that daryl dis john like that ,money Isn't everything. Why so greedy ? don' t he know he can' t take the money with him ,and he is old daryl need to grow up
In most cases bands break up or lose members because of money and/or ego issues. Well known fact.
As someone who has loved them for quite literally all of my life, they always seemed so supportive and respectful of each other in their interviews, and honestly, I was impressed by their lack of discord over money. They go back to being teenagers and going over to each other's parents houses. Then being roommates in Philadelphia. There is such personal history there...a foundation of trust and acceptance. And that they acknowledged that they balanced each other out and each brought different things to the table. There was a Howard Stern interview with Daryl Hall a few years ago, and understandably, Howard Stern, of course he just wanted an interesting interview. So it seemed like Howard Stern was almost baiting Daryl Hall to say something negative about John Oates' contributions, but he wouldn't take the bait and was very respectful. I had heard that John Oates is pretty chill and humble, and as with many successful and talented people, Daryl Hall had a big ego, and it seemed like a really positive quality that he worked with John Oates for so long because a person's ego can't be that unhealthy if one wants to keep working with someone who really knows everything about one....good and bad. They both had more than enough money, so that fact that they kept coming back together to tour seemed like it was for the joy of it. That was the vibe I got seeing them together a few years ago. It was not a "paycheck performance". It was joyful and fun.
....AND....Daryl SNATCHED John's Girlfriend, Sara Allen (..yes, "Sara Smile"...) from him, when they were living together as struggling Musicians! ...Daryl was with her for close 30 YEARS....and, just dumped her! ....Sara's on some of the Songwriting credits, is SHE a 'business Partner', TOO!? ..Daryl, Daryl, DARYL....
If you have every seen Sara Allen interviewed for Behind the Music or once she was actually on Live From Daryl's House several years after their break up and his subsequent marriage and separation. She seems modest and sweet and funny....and seems like such a warm person from these brief glimpses@@RBS_
I love this duo. I hope they can resolve this.
Yeah the restraint order doesn’t resolve it
Sad
The Eagles went through this. The Stones went through this. The Beatles ditto...When it becomes more about money than music, management entities and copyright/contract honchos stick their briefcases in. Feelings gets hurt and everybody winds up pissed off, on opposite sides and in court. I LOVED Hall and Oates, and many of us grew up with them and MTV.... and still have huge respect for both of these guys. I hope they work it out. It already has a very ugly vibe...
"Say it Isn't So." Apparently Hall's attitude is "I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)," and he's not willing to meet "One on One." This shows that "Some Things are Better Left Unsaid."
This is shocking!!!
So unfortunate, love ❤️ all thier music 🎵
They wrote some goodies ,YOUR FIST IS ON MY LIPS..😅
Oh geeze, I am sorry to hear this. 😢
Sad to hear about this. They are my favorite duo. Praying that they will still resolve this.
This is sad. These two need to get it together
Well.... what is their real name then?? We all know it as hall & Oates??
Yeah, it doesn't make much sense to me either. No one knows them as Daryl Hall and John Oates. It's always been Hall & Oates to us fans!
@karenharris722 yea
.I mean I was a teen in the early 70s and I'm sorry.. but I remember them coming out as hall &oates.
I hope the problem gets resolved!
If he violates the order, they'll be haulin' Oates off to jail!
Becoming a millionaire and audience applause every night turns some people into a-holes.
TWO GOATS 😢
🐐🐐
Classic duo
i got my hands on an advance copy of oates' autobiography some years ago. it sat around, untouched and unread, for quite a while...until i realized one day that i didnt give a damn what oates had to say. i got rid of it.
I hope they can work out their differences. I love to cover music that was made before I was born, and Hall & Oates is top of the list.
I seen Live from Daryls house. Daryl performs hall & Oates songs on there without Oates then sues Oates for performing the songs without hall. Whats the matter dude your mansion not big enough?
Saw them 3 times in cocert. Loved them. This is so sad that it came to this.
I am in shock. I have admired these two since Elementary school. Big Bam Boom turned me into an instant fan.
i dont blame hall at all!he wrote most of the songs,sang the songs and now oates want to make money from them.oates must need money!!!
yep
I was so sad to hear this!😢
Say it isn't so !! 💔
it isn't so u ooh ohhh😪
@@tonibroussard8452☺️ 👍
John Oats could pass as Prince's big brother!
...decades ago (Spring 1985), a NYC Radio station had a 'Best Rockstar Buns ' contest and John came in at #3, Prince #2, and 'The Boss' (Bruce), at #1.....and MANY People said that they thought Prince & John looked SO similar....even the RUMPS! ...ha-HAA!
Their music is the best awesome
This is soooo Tragic😢
Very sad
They can still tour after this. What musical group doesn't have feuds or court
cases?
The song HAD I KNOW YOU BETTER THAN is one of the greatest. Thank you John Oates.
I wonder if it’s possible for Daryl to buy John’s share instead, then he would own it all. I’m a big fan, and I wish they could’ve figured this out on their own without us ever knowing. I saw an interview from years and years ago where Daryl is smiling and saying John is his brother. Hopefully they can end up like that again.
WTH Daryl! You are a grown man that should be very appreciative of John. You have brought complete sorrow to your fans! We love both of you, and have grown up with your music. What is your problem!!! I just saw you both in 2021, and Daryl solo twice with Todd Rundgren just this year. You have broke my heart with this news.
This is so sad
Oh ffs.
Hall's lost his mind. I hope he gets help. He and John spread so much Love And Joy..
So sad