yes, not new. my uncle was shown how a d from then on we'd go wood choopping. the trees we cut and took for firewood were marked by forest rangers, not just randomly
I tried that once but the tree fell backwards because the owners had continually been cutting branches from the front side because it was overshadowing the pool that I did not pay attention to. In other words it does not always work.
The technique recommended in the Stihl manual looks the safest to me. Front notch aas here, cut central chamber,bang in a wedge or 2 then cut the back notch. The tree can only go the right way because of the wedges. Is some extra work, but I guess Stihl are quite motivated to avoid users of their saws dying.
A key notch cut is used when you don't want the butt of the tree to fall onto something, like a fence or a bush, or just something on the ground you don't want to crush. Also when you want to prevent the butt from rolling as it falls.
@@stever2583I was a top dog timber man there bud. I made my chains custom for diff. applications . Chains I made for logs are firewood, you would need hold the saw back. No pushing needed. You try putting one of those chains in there and ya be pullin the saw out your head . My choice worked saw was 064's that I tweak by ear and got pic.'s of me cutting with one in each hand . Used my 088' Stihl on the big timber I came across .
Seen a guy fell a giant Tamarack in Idaho. He actually put out a beer can and said he'd crush it. He cut a wedge, then back cut it. The ground shook, and that can was crushed. Remarkable skill.
@karensimons9260 Hello Karen. You may think this guy is a 'seasoned faller' as you called him, but I have worked doing exactly what he is doing. One winter Dad and I took out a little over a million board feet of lumber. I've never seen anyone that has done such work do all those crazy things this guy does. I guess this looks impressive to anyone that has never been a lumberjack. I sat here and listened to the narrator and shook my head in amazement at what I saw. This guy knows nothing about cutting down a tree. 1) As other people have said, he needs to sharpen the chain. 2) If he was working for me as a logger and cut down a tree like this, I'd immediately fire him. 3) The ONLY thing he did right was to cut that notch or wedge, but even that was done wrong. 4) You never make an over-cut but always make an under-cut. Over-cut means the top part of the notch is cut at an angle instead of cut horizontal. The angle part should be under the horizontal cut and angle up, leading to the name under-cut. If this tree was to be made into lumber, this guy wasted a lot of the best part of the tree, which is the lower part. 5) Why is he making the cut so high above ground, again wasting a lot of good valuable lumber? All this should be as close to the ground as possible. 6) I've never heard of cutting that long notch below the wedge, since as I said in #5, everything is cut as close to the ground as possible. 7) There are several things to consider when deciding where the tree will fall, and to an extent that location can be influenced by the exact direction of that 'V' shaped wedge. Is the tree leaning a little one way or the other, is there a wind or breeze blowing, does one side have more branches than the other which will pull the falling tree that way because of their extra weight. 8) That long vertical slit he made below the 'V' shaped wedge is suppose to not allow the falling tree to kick back or roll to one side. If you watch very careful as the tree is falling and that 'wedge' is closing, there is a moment when that long strip of wood is on top of the stump and not in the slit leading to the ground. At that moment, the tree would be free to kick back or roll off to one side. If it has many thick heavy branches, they will act as sort of a spring and even let the tree bounce a little. If you are standing to close and the tree hits you, you will either be on your way to a hospital or perhaps the morgue. When you are out there in the woods and working with equipment, you had better keep your mind on what you are doing. There are no second chances. Now Karen, after reading all this, doesn't it make you want to grab your hard-hat and come join me? :)
I used to cut down trees like that when i was younger we didnt have a log truck and only a 6 inch diameter chipper and did everything by rope people loved us because we didnt bring in all types of heavy equipment and some of the roping techniques we were able to pull off were amazing to watch
Yea it's pretty extra I did it on an oak about the same size just for fun and it worked well but definitely see why he used a pine tree. Saw doesn't like cutting against the grain especially an oak lol
Living in the South, wood is big business. My dad cut trees for years and never did any more than cut a notch from the base as to what way he wanted the tree to fall. That technique never failed him. If the winds were high, he waited.
@@blipblop92 we only used the cable for trees that were leaning slightly and that was rare occasions. Other than that, the old man could put any tree wherever he wanted it to go.
I come from a family of loggers, first he needs to sharpen his chain, the method you describe is the tried and true method that loggers have used for years.
@@davinaneether5183My Dad and I cut timber in WV when I was just a kid. If you notch the tree properly and step away from it as it starts to fall you don't need all these fancy cuts. I know they can kick back or split or any number of crazy things but you're watching for that. I'm sure cutting a tree next to somebody's house is a different matter. My Dad could make a tree fall more or less in the direction he wanted but trees generally fall where they want to unless you're using ropes and such.
Could it swing backwards because of the weight - just asking.a tree with weight going forward is falling forward , notch or no notch 😮😮😮, seemed overkill with weight already bearing forward
How about you appreciate the creativity and let that person be happy with what they have done? How does this affect you in any way? It's really sad how you baby bombers are so negative.
I’m from Klamath County, Oregon where timber and ranching (mainly potatoes, alfalfa and sugar beets) is our lifeblood. This is just a hinge cut, every decently trained arborist also knows this. Pines and fir trees can sometimes split as the fall causing a widowmaker that can also do sever damage to property. I’ve seen amazing experienced timber fallers buck tall trees and fall huge sequoias as if it was nothing. If you want to start in that industry, go find a crew and start as a whistle punk or choke setter, wait till you have to double choke a sequoia and use two skidders to get it down the side of the mountain! What a life! That’s why I served 26 years in the Army as an Infantryman since doing a career as a lumberjack is far more dangerous.
It took all less this two minute video to drop this tree away from that house in such away that it can’t fall on the house and yall are yapping it took too long 😳
@@Eelgnotsa You are obviously a product of our highly edited video consumer world. It took more than this two minute video to cut that vertical notch. I’ve cut trees for decades, and this notch never would have done any good. Only one time did a tree not fall just as I wanted it to. This notch is a waste of time.
This guy did nothing to stop it from falling into the house that a standard method wouldn't, he just limited the axis it was most likely to fall on. The hinge cut that he does is unnecessary and dangerous but makes an interesting video.
@@peterburkey3740 THANK YOU Peter for confirming what several of us have been trying to convince the 'CZcams experts' here that what we saw in that video concerning that vertical notch, was not only a total waste of time, but work and valuable wood as well.
Cutting that notch, in the direction one wants the tree to fall, then cutting a straight cut on the other side of the notch is the Standard Procedure for felling a tree.
He didn't make a straight cut on the backside. If he had, he would have severed the tenon. He cut on the right side on an angle to the tenon, then came around to the left side and cut to the tenon. That's the "unique technique."
His "Jenga" cuts really don't do anything, although it does look cooler when the tree falls and the Jenga piece slides out. That's why they did this cut because they are trying to sell chainsaws.
Not that cut and dried trees grow towards the sunlight. They can heavy one side or another..true.a rope as. High ad you can then put a pull with a vehicle. Just have a long enough rope..
If one carefully studies the concept of this cut……it is BS! Consider the completion of ALL the cutting required to achieve this,…….. the back cut wouldn’t even be necessary because the tree would already be completely free of the stump before performing the back cut! Agreed, it’s BS!
It literally WAS done like that mate.. lol Maybe different then you in the fields but absolutely worked to perfection here. Why so much Hate?? Especially considering he's in YOUR line of work??
My grandfather always told me “if you can’t fall a tree with just three cuts (two for the notch, one for the back cut) then you have no business cutting trees.”
Mostly right but there are specific cases where if you want to spin the tree in a direction you add a forth cut in the right place, some call it a swinging Dutchman, what’s pretty advanced and most of the time unnecessary
@@Lightworker-ye4nv there are many other comments that seem to agree with me. The more cuts you make in a tree the more unpredictable it gets. if the tree has a rotten center or a vertical split then all those extra cuts have created multiple points of failure and requires more time of the saw operator in harms way. A saw operator stands to the side while cutting the notch and back cut, this method puts the saw operator directly in the path of the tree when it falls all while making more cuts further weakening the tree. A rope and or wedges are far safer than this. I don’t have a logging skidder as my icon for fun. I would trust my grandfathers knowledge over some random person who became an expert by watching videos on CZcams. I’m done with you.
I've cut trees but I'm no skilled professional I'll stick to the basics and do them well. That looks cool but every cut made is a chance to make a mistake.
I've worked professionally as a loger, don't do what you see in this video. If the tree is older age and parts of it are rotten or is some hardwood species like Birchwood that tend to split easily it wil Barber chair when you do the long cuts down for that notch.
If a man wants to make a living he needs to get the job done safely and effectively. Unless the majority of professionals in the tree-cutting industry practice this technique or at the least promote it I would take caution in following this person's method. I have cut trees for over 25 years and have never used this type of technique and never will. I understand the concept of creating a side-to-side hinge wood to help the tree stay in the direction of the fall. I understand plunging the tip of the bar. I have plunged the tip to create a saw holder. That was after many years of handling many different sizes and brands. From gear-driven to clutch-driven. I learned that the tree will go in the direction of the front cut predominately but many factors need to be looked at. So do the manufacturers of chain saws. If you look on the side of most saws there's a direction line on the cover plate that holds the chain. So when laid on the side while felling a tree you can cut your front cut in the direction you want the tree to fall without going too deep or too shallow which in either case may cancel out the direction intended. the chance of preventing any hinge-wood when back cutting too much hinge wood or zero hinge wood. The hinge wood for those that don't know is the wood you leave uncut when coming in the back to fell the tree. I would say please do not try to replicate this unless you understand all the mechanics involved. You either understand this whole deal or you don't. And if you're not completely confident and understand the risks involved please do not try this. Plunging the tip of the bar is very dangerous. If you understand kickback or witnessed or experienced your saw coming right back at your face in a millisecond and thankfully had the chain brake engage then you might see some of the dangers of this procedure. If I were to use this type of cut, no doubt I could perform it with confidence. I would need to stop and take way more time sharpening my chains throughout the day. Not to mention how many more trees I could cut and how much longer my saw would run without refueling. And the longevity of the saw itself. Also, some trees are dead inside and the dead part may be harder than the live tissue or no holding power at all. Some trees are hollow inside making a cut like this impossible. If a person doesn't know there is decay even after seeing the signs like conks you may be creating your upcoming accident. This method seems to hold the direction of the fall to an extent. In fact, it would seem to be best needed if one side of the tree weighed more than the other. This concept if used in that case would possibly prevent the tree from falling towards the weighted side to an extent. But still, many variables and conditions need to be considered. Normally with the standard front cut wedge in the direction of the fell, you come in from the back of the tree and make a single cut in the current alignment to the front cut. You make that back cut lower or higher than the front cut you're going for or one side of the back cut being the proper height but one side higher than the other side you have now got yourself into a dangerous and possibly destructive and life-threatening situation. Normally if felling a tree that is weighted more on one side than the other you leave more hinge wood on the opposite side of the weight. So this is unique but what is not good at all is there will be many who possibly think it's genius and will decide to start cutting using this new remarkably professional-looking cut. I went long-winded just to hopefully open some eyes to prevent major injuries. There is never a band-aid used when dealing with any chainsaw injury. It is major life-threatening, life-changing, and death. So please be careful. People watch these videos and it looks easy. The big box stores push these tools along with other shop tools from table-saws to air-nailers and make it all like anyone can just buy the tool and get started. Hospital emergency room visits have increased in the last ten years with such related injuries. If you know your business which many of you watching do then you already understand. If I am wrong about this technique that's perfectly fine with me. But I am not wrong about the dangers so please take care. Erock
A precise cut for around structures, to insure you don't have to use your insurance, but, When you work for someone else in the woods, you can't play around like this and waste wood by high-stumping You'll be headed to the crew bus before lunch. At least with my company you would. I can't afford that play-around and waste. 3 cuts, ,bottom face angle face and back-cut. If you have to tap a wedge in the back cut to keep your strip clean and neat, then do it and move on.
I wouldn’t BRAG about you being perfect in the cutting of trees falling where you want them to all the time because that’s how a person gets hurt by thinking they above the law of nature , I feel sorry for you when your ( they fall where I want them to ) comes back to bite you in the ass when the wind suddenly appears and changes the tree direction!!!
This may impress anyone who's never cut a tree..but he did what everyone does, but instead of safely standing behind the tree and using a wedge, he risks standing right infront of a tree that hes just weakened to fall towards him, then doing a " nose cut" with way more potential for kickback...and playing " jenga " . A pro thinking safety wouldnt do this . Pure novelty. Hes playing " jenga" instead of " kerplunk "
Never had to use something like this in my almost 60 years cutting down trees. His notch should be level and sloping up, and not sloping down. Also, the fancy way of steering the tree can be extremely dangerous as burying the tip of the bar into the tree can cause kick-backs. If you cannot calculate the fall of the tree by considering foliage, wind and available space ... don't do it to begin with.
That’s a pie cut, then you go around the back of the tree for yourback cut a few inches from bottom pie cut and you can drop your tree anywhere you want it to fall! AWESOME
You cut the back side to allow the remaining attached grain act as your hinge point Then your tree turns on the hinge to the location where you want it to go. Only 2 cuts.
He obviously doesn't have a clue how to sharpen his chain. After learning how to sharpen it he can buy a real saw and chunk that junk into the dumpster.
You know not everyone is an expert so maybe this little bit of advice will save someone I live in Vermont have used a chain saw for 37 yrs mostly cutting fire wood but I’ve read about people that work out in the woods with years of experience and that’s where they find them my advice have someone with experience show you always respect that saw and that tree, good luck 🙏
Only when it's needed .. and it sure wasn't needed here .. that tree was leaning like the Tower of Pisa , with no trees on the side to steer it and make it roll on the cut ..
Had a big elm tree with a wicked lean. I cut it down with this technique, and it fell exactly on line with the notch seemingly defying gravity based on the lean. 👍😎
This is probably the most significant use case of this technique. If you got some heavy leaner that you need to redirect a couple degrees off his lean. Otherwise I see no real use for this technique.
My stepfather was a professional lumberjack for decades, he did three cuts and could land a tree between two others 1m apart. You don't need so many cuts or have them so high up to be precise.
I hate to burst your bubble! But when I bought my 2nd chainsaw in my life; a 16” Stylh Chainsaw! The owners manual tells you how to do this exact cut in the Tree! It’s a Safety measure To prevent the chain from kicking back at you and harming you the schedule come up with this the manufacture did to protect the owner of the chainsaw! Get a clue people
Every other comment made by an asshole: this isn't unique this is how everyone does it Me, not an asshole: oh wow that's a cool technique, now I know how to cut a tree down with a chainsaw properly
That's not proper. It's fancy and honestly more risky for the tree feller than conventional methods. If you need to drop a tree, please research the standard, time tested technique. (Which basically boils down to a face cut wedge and then a finishing cut slightly above it from the opposite side to hinge the tree in the direction of the face cut)
No you don't... because a hinge cut is rarely ever used ... and its actually dangerous. Watch any company who drops trees . Nobody over falls a tree like this . If it's in danger of hitting something, they top it first, then make a standard cut .. a hinged cut is possible..and even helps in some rare circumstances... But you don't need it to fell a leaning tree with no obstacles in the way .. Learning by CZcams can get you hurt if you're not careful. This isn't a cut that inexperienced cutters need to be doing . First thing you're probably going to do is stick your saw ..then things start getting real risky trying to get it unstuck.
Dude, I watch August Hunicke out on the west coast (Grants Pass Oregon) and he is an arborist, and uses most of these, if not all of them, depending on what he's cutting, whether it's a leaner and what other obstacles he may be dealing with, and sometimes has to use a guide line to ensure the tree falls where he wants it to. he's been doing this for decades and has a full crew and business.
I know nothing about proper tree cutting technique, but seems like extra insurance that it will fall where you want it for a just a little extra time and effort. Also, cutter seems to be properly equipped safety wise.
Looks like the tree had already been top out. When the tree falls, you can see the shadow on the tree beside it that it been top out and you can tell by the noise it makes that it ain't the whole tree.
My husband was a legit tree faller in the woods he did that for many years. He’d say it’s a precision of art.
yes, not new. my uncle was shown how a d from then on we'd go wood choopping. the trees we cut and took for firewood were marked by forest rangers, not just randomly
Grow trees.... Instead...
Cutting down trees is not art tho it's devastating the planet at this point
I tried that once but the tree fell backwards because the owners had continually been cutting branches from the front side because it was overshadowing the pool that I did not pay attention to. In other words it does not always work.
@@tooshady47446ttv ignorant
I gotta say, regardless of all the hate in the comments, that this was a pretty damn cool way to fall a tree. Definitely skilled
Nah
It's math bro
Doesn't matter how you cut it
The weight of the three leaning side
Sheesh
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how about stop cutting down all the forests and leaving this planet nothing but a barron waste land. Destroying it!
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@@elibooks7660many are brilliant in math but in actual, epic lazy, not all but many
The technique recommended in the Stihl manual looks the safest to me. Front notch aas here, cut central chamber,bang in a wedge or 2 then cut the back notch. The tree can only go the right way because of the wedges. Is some extra work, but I guess Stihl are quite motivated to avoid users of their saws dying.
Big Yawn.
A key notch cut is used when you don't want the butt of the tree to fall onto something, like a fence or a bush, or just something on the ground you don't want to crush. Also when you want to prevent the butt from rolling as it falls.
Step one.
Sharpen the chain.
Yep
If its to sharp you would have trouble plunging it in for those cuts .
@@shawnfreeoftyranny8849 ohh I didn't know that
@@shawnfreeoftyranny8849 Make sure you tell pro fallers that tidbit... I'm sure they'd love to use dull saws in the bush!
@@stever2583I was a top dog timber man there bud. I made my chains custom for diff. applications . Chains I made for logs are firewood, you would need hold the saw back. No pushing needed. You try putting one of those chains in there and ya be pullin the saw out your head . My choice worked saw was 064's that I tweak by ear and got pic.'s of me cutting with one in each hand . Used my 088' Stihl on the big timber I came across .
no chance I'm cutting a notch and then standing in front of that notch to cut below it.
I did think it odd he made that notch 1st.
he should have cut out the vertical cuts and block 1st. THEN start the wedge
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I thought the exact same thing, and that tree was upright with the notch cut for way too long.
Bullseye!
These guys understand the physics of the tree. They're masters with tension and compression.
This dude has never sharpened a chain in his life.
Only when I see a tree fall upward,I’ll be impressed 😂😂😂
You know a lot of guys panic about damaging a house. But when you stop and think about it, you have a lot of free lumber for the repairs.
@marchess923 Ha Ha You're funny. {:>) Not only that but now you can rebuild the house the way you always knew it should have been in the first place,
Nice!
Best comment ever lol genius bro
IF it's the same wood as used in the construction.
"But on the plus side, you now have a new log cabin!"
Seen a guy fell a giant Tamarack in Idaho. He actually put out a beer can and said he'd crush it.
He cut a wedge, then back cut it. The ground shook, and that can was crushed. Remarkable skill.
Fantastic! Nothing like a seasoned faller❤😊
@karensimons9260 Hello Karen. You may think this guy is a 'seasoned faller' as you called him, but I have worked doing exactly what he is doing. One winter Dad and I took out a little over a million board feet of lumber. I've never seen anyone that has done such work do all those crazy things this guy does. I guess this looks impressive to anyone that has never been a lumberjack. I sat here and listened to the narrator and shook my head in amazement at what I saw. This guy knows nothing about cutting down a tree.
1) As other people have said, he needs to sharpen the chain.
2) If he was working for me as a logger and cut down a tree like this, I'd immediately fire him.
3) The ONLY thing he did right was to cut that notch or wedge, but even that was done wrong.
4) You never make an over-cut but always make an under-cut. Over-cut means the top part of the notch is cut at an angle instead of cut horizontal. The angle part should be under the horizontal cut and angle up, leading to the name under-cut. If this tree was to be made into lumber, this guy wasted a lot of the best part of the tree, which is the lower part.
5) Why is he making the cut so high above ground, again wasting a lot of good valuable lumber? All this should be as close to the ground as possible.
6) I've never heard of cutting that long notch below the wedge, since as I said in #5, everything is cut as close to the ground as possible.
7) There are several things to consider when deciding where the tree will fall, and to an extent that location can be influenced by the exact direction of that 'V' shaped wedge. Is the tree leaning a little one way or the other, is there a wind or breeze blowing, does one side have more branches than the other which will pull the falling tree that way because of their extra weight.
8) That long vertical slit he made below the 'V' shaped wedge is suppose to not allow the falling tree to kick back or roll to one side. If you watch very careful as the tree is falling and that 'wedge' is closing, there is a moment when that long strip of wood is on top of the stump and not in the slit leading to the ground. At that moment, the tree would be free to kick back or roll off to one side. If it has many thick heavy branches, they will act as sort of a spring and even let the tree bounce a little. If you are standing to close and the tree hits you, you will either be on your way to a hospital or perhaps the morgue. When you are out there in the woods and working with equipment, you had better keep your mind on what you are doing. There are no second chances.
Now Karen, after reading all this, doesn't it make you want to grab your hard-hat and come join me? :)
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@@gordjohn2322Thats just what I was going to say 😂😅😂
@@alankerr8036see; look at all the time you saved
I used to cut down trees like that when i was younger we didnt have a log truck and only a 6 inch diameter chipper and did everything by rope people loved us because we didnt bring in all types of heavy equipment and some of the roping techniques we were able to pull off were amazing to watch
Can't wait to try it out in my neighbors backyard to get my mountain view back.
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Ive ben cutting for a long time never saw that. Seems like extra work to me
Fuckery. By the hour fuckery.
It is extra work but sure as hell prevents even more!
@@chrissalter8342 total waste of time
Yea it's pretty extra I did it on an oak about the same size just for fun and it worked well but definitely see why he used a pine tree. Saw doesn't like cutting against the grain especially an oak lol
Recon you have a "few" disasters in your history.
Living in the South, wood is big business. My dad cut trees for years and never did any more than cut a notch from the base as to what way he wanted the tree to fall. That technique never failed him. If the winds were high, he waited.
There is always a rope puller, the notch is not enough in most cases especially if the tree is well balanced
@@blipblop92 we only used the cable for trees that were leaning slightly and that was rare occasions. Other than that, the old man could put any tree wherever he wanted it to go.
I come from a family of loggers, first he needs to sharpen his chain, the method you describe is the tried and true method that loggers have used for years.
@@davinaneether5183My Dad and I cut timber in WV when I was just a kid. If you notch the tree properly and step away from it as it starts to fall you don't need all these fancy cuts. I know they can kick back or split or any number of crazy things but you're watching for that. I'm sure cutting a tree next to somebody's house is a different matter. My Dad could make a tree fall more or less in the direction he wanted but trees generally fall where they want to unless you're using ropes and such.
@@DONTCALLMETHAT My old man would fly around the tree and then cut it with his dikk.
I used this technique yesterday for the first time and it worked like a charm.
is anyone wondering why they never show the top of the tree? Because there is none.
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The sound of that stump falling compared to would be tree 🌳
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Does it really matter?
Safer way to film and show the technique. Got a couple sourpusses in here.
The notch is way too high. The sawdust is fine , so the power saw needs sharpening.
for that hinge technique, it has to higher than normal to allow for the stabilizer in the middle.
Wow this a brilliant technique for when the tree absolutely needs to drop in a specific spot.
Good job 👍 definitely 💯 this guy is a pro cutting trees 🌳
The two wedges can do the job. Vertical cut was not required.
It’s all a matter of someone else’s opinion anyway. 🤨
Could it swing backwards because of the weight - just asking.a tree with weight going forward is falling forward , notch or no notch 😮😮😮, seemed overkill with weight already bearing forward
Wow !!! Been cutting/falling trees for 40 plus years now. It goes where it want it to fall . This is a lot of extra work/ steps for falling a tree..
How about you appreciate the creativity and let that person be happy with what they have done? How does this affect you in any way?
It's really sad how you baby bombers are so negative.
@@beastfromthemiddleeast6369 wow . Someone’s crabby.
Nice any videos over the 40 years?
@@beastfromthemiddleeast6369Lighten up Francis. What is a baby bomber?
@hillbillychic8417 lol. You mad over a spelling error?
I’m from Klamath County, Oregon where timber and ranching (mainly potatoes, alfalfa and sugar beets) is our lifeblood. This is just a hinge cut, every decently trained arborist also knows this. Pines and fir trees can sometimes split as the fall causing a widowmaker that can also do sever damage to property. I’ve seen amazing experienced timber fallers buck tall trees and fall huge sequoias as if it was nothing. If you want to start in that industry, go find a crew and start as a whistle punk or choke setter, wait till you have to double choke a sequoia and use two skidders to get it down the side of the mountain! What a life! That’s why I served 26 years in the Army as an Infantryman since doing a career as a lumberjack is far more dangerous.
That is NOT a hidge cut. Give the guy credit asshole
That's a master trade/skill. My industry is different and dangerous. But hats off to y'all. Skill
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One word - “Intelligent”
Very nice and clever. However, the "Pro" never doing this because it "unnecessary" steps.
It took all less this two minute video to drop this tree away from that house in such away that it can’t fall on the house and yall are yapping it took too long 😳
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You are obviously a product of our highly edited video consumer world.
It took more than this two minute video to cut that vertical notch.
I’ve cut trees for decades, and this notch never would have done any good. Only one time did a tree not fall just as I wanted it to.
This notch is a waste of time.
This guy did nothing to stop it from falling into the house that a standard method wouldn't, he just limited the axis it was most likely to fall on. The hinge cut that he does is unnecessary and dangerous but makes an interesting video.
If you are near buildings better you follow these steps. Avoid lawsuits.
@@peterburkey3740 THANK YOU Peter for confirming what several of us have been trying to convince the 'CZcams experts' here that what we saw in that video concerning that vertical notch, was not only a total waste of time, but work and valuable wood as well.
Cutting that notch, in the direction one wants the tree to fall, then cutting a straight cut on the other side of the notch is the Standard Procedure for felling a tree.
U r absolutely right, nobody needs to ✂️ cut the hell out of the 🌳
I didn't realise that. I've seen so many clips of felling fails that I thought there was an element of luck to it . Thanks.
Maybe maybe not
Tree sometimes have their own way
@@user-qv1fm2vb9d None that I ever cut down.
He didn't make a straight cut on the backside. If he had, he would have severed the tenon. He cut on the right side on an angle to the tenon, then came around to the left side and cut to the tenon. That's the "unique technique."
What a bunch of BS, those extra cuts do nothing. The tree is already falling before they would even come into play.
His "Jenga" cuts really don't do anything, although it does look cooler when the tree falls and the Jenga piece slides out. That's why they did this cut because they are trying to sell chainsaws.
Not that cut and dried trees grow towards the sunlight.
They can heavy one side or another..true.a rope as. High ad you can then put a pull with a vehicle.
Just have a long enough rope..
What a bunch of bullshit I’ve been logging 33 yrs it’s not done like that
Right me too-> tho this is beside or between bldgs is the idea for certain situations...!
Easy if tree leans away from property...half or more than half the time, it don't.
If one carefully studies the concept of this cut……it is BS! Consider the completion of ALL the cutting required to achieve this,…….. the back cut wouldn’t even be necessary because the tree would already be completely free of the stump before performing the back cut! Agreed, it’s BS!
It literally WAS done like that mate.. lol Maybe different then you in the fields but absolutely worked to perfection here. Why so much Hate?? Especially considering he's in YOUR line of work??
He does it that way. That's all that matters.
This man invented a technique that every lumberjack should know. He should patent it.
Pure brilliance 😊
My grandfather always told me “if you can’t fall a tree with just three cuts (two for the notch, one for the back cut) then you have no business cutting trees.”
Mostly right but there are specific cases where if you want to spin the tree in a direction you add a forth cut in the right place, some call it a swinging Dutchman, what’s pretty advanced and most of the time unnecessary
Well he's wrong
@@Lightworker-ye4nv there are many other comments that seem to agree with me. The more cuts you make in a tree the more unpredictable it gets. if the tree has a rotten center or a vertical split then all those extra cuts have created multiple points of failure and requires more time of the saw operator in harms way. A saw operator stands to the side while cutting the notch and back cut, this method puts the saw operator directly in the path of the tree when it falls all while making more cuts further weakening the tree. A rope and or wedges are far safer than this. I don’t have a logging skidder as my icon for fun. I would trust my grandfathers knowledge over some random person who became an expert by watching videos on CZcams. I’m done with you.
Thats why your grandpa fell trees in thr forest, and not around the buildings
@@MatejVelican thr forest?
I've cut trees but I'm no skilled professional I'll stick to the basics and do them well. That looks cool but every cut made is a chance to make a mistake.
I've worked professionally as a loger, don't do what you see in this video. If the tree is older age and parts of it are rotten or is some hardwood species like Birchwood that tend to split easily it wil Barber chair when you do the long cuts down for that notch.
Does that angle cut end up near the halfway point of the diameter or a bit behind it and going into the other half of the diameter.
super smart, on a different level. BRILLIANT.
This must be the 100th time I've seen this unique technique.
I think i lost 6 IQ points just listening to this video...
Lol how right you are.
So you are down to five IQ points remaining...
Now you're down to zero. Just kidding, mate! Cheers 🍻
This isn't unique, this is the norm, training.
All the haters who think the extra cuts are unnecessary probably don't like to season their food, either.
If a man wants to make a living he needs to get the job done safely and effectively. Unless the majority of professionals in the tree-cutting industry practice this technique or at the least promote it I would take caution in following this person's method. I have cut trees for over 25 years and have never used this type of technique and never will. I understand the concept of creating a side-to-side hinge wood to help the tree stay in the direction of the fall. I understand plunging the tip of the bar. I have plunged the tip to create a saw holder. That was after many years of handling many different sizes and brands. From gear-driven to clutch-driven. I learned that the tree will go in the direction of the front cut predominately but many factors need to be looked at. So do the manufacturers of chain saws. If you look on the side of most saws there's a direction line on the cover plate that holds the chain. So when laid on the side while felling a tree you can cut your front cut in the direction you want the tree to fall without going too deep or too shallow which in either case may cancel out the direction intended. the chance of preventing any hinge-wood when back cutting too much hinge wood or zero hinge wood. The hinge wood for those that don't know is the wood you leave uncut when coming in the back to fell the tree. I would say please do not try to replicate this unless you understand all the mechanics involved. You either understand this whole deal or you don't. And if you're not completely confident and understand the risks involved please do not try this. Plunging the tip of the bar is very dangerous. If you understand kickback or witnessed or experienced your saw coming right back at your face in a millisecond and thankfully had the chain brake engage then you might see some of the dangers of this procedure. If I were to use this type of cut, no doubt I could perform it with confidence. I would need to stop and take way more time sharpening my chains throughout the day. Not to mention how many more trees I could cut and how much longer my saw would run without refueling. And the longevity of the saw itself. Also, some trees are dead inside and the dead part may be harder than the live tissue or no holding power at all. Some trees are hollow inside making a cut like this impossible. If a person doesn't know there is decay even after seeing the signs like conks you may be creating your upcoming accident. This method seems to hold the direction of the fall to an extent. In fact, it would seem to be best needed if one side of the tree weighed more than the other. This concept if used in that case would possibly prevent the tree from falling towards the weighted side to an extent. But still, many variables and conditions need to be considered. Normally with the standard front cut wedge in the direction of the fell, you come in from the back of the tree and make a single cut in the current alignment to the front cut. You make that back cut lower or higher than the front cut you're going for or one side of the back cut being the proper height but one side higher than the other side you have now got yourself into a dangerous and possibly destructive and life-threatening situation. Normally if felling a tree that is weighted more on one side than the other you leave more hinge wood on the opposite side of the weight. So this is unique but what is not good at all is there will be many who possibly think it's genius and will decide to start cutting using this new remarkably professional-looking cut. I went long-winded just to hopefully open some eyes to prevent major injuries. There is never a band-aid used when dealing with any chainsaw injury. It is major life-threatening, life-changing, and death. So please be careful. People watch these videos and it looks easy. The big box stores push these tools along with other shop tools from table-saws to air-nailers and make it all like anyone can just buy the tool and get started. Hospital emergency room visits have increased in the last ten years with such related injuries. If you know your business which many of you watching do then you already understand. If I am wrong about this technique that's perfectly fine with me. But I am not wrong about the dangers so please take care. Erock
A precise cut for around structures, to insure you don't have to use your insurance, but, When you work for someone else in the woods, you can't play around like this and waste wood by high-stumping You'll be headed to the crew bus before lunch. At least with my company you would. I can't afford that play-around and waste. 3 cuts, ,bottom face angle face and back-cut. If you have to tap a wedge in the back cut to keep your strip clean and neat, then do it and move on.
100%
Long winded to say the least.
In general I think you were right, but you made it to confusing.
Don't write a book this is CZcams... Make a video!
@@H43339...too.... Means excessive or excessively. To is a preposition.
he needs to sharpen the chain first
Meanwhile Steve from Minecraft 💀💀💀
I’ve cut trees down all my life, and I’ve never had to do that, and they all fallen where I’ve wanted them to.
Same all these people talkin about it’s normal🤣 only normal if you don’t have confidence and can’t drop a tree the right way
Where you at? I have a 70ft tall it needs to be cut let me know
I wouldn’t BRAG about you being perfect in the cutting of trees falling where you want them to all the time because that’s how a person gets hurt by thinking they above the law of nature , I feel sorry for you when your ( they fall where I want them to ) comes back to bite you in the ass when the wind suddenly appears and changes the tree direction!!!
Me 2. Notch, set hinge, back cut to triggerwood, trip trigger!
They haven’t all fallen exactly where you wanted them to.
This may impress anyone who's never cut a tree..but he did what everyone does, but instead of safely standing behind the tree and using a wedge, he risks standing right infront of a tree that hes just weakened to fall towards him, then doing a " nose cut" with way more potential for kickback...and playing " jenga " . A pro thinking safety wouldnt do this . Pure novelty. Hes playing " jenga" instead of " kerplunk "
“Unique”💀
Never had to use something like this in my almost 60 years cutting down trees. His notch should be level and sloping up, and not sloping down. Also, the fancy way of steering the tree can be extremely dangerous as burying the tip of the bar into the tree can cause kick-backs. If you cannot calculate the fall of the tree by considering foliage, wind and available space ... don't do it to begin with.
You better listen to this man - herein is WISDOM!!
He doesn't just cut the back of the tree. He's careful to not cut the vertical hinge he just made. Cool technique
That’s a pie cut, then you go around the back of the tree for yourback cut a few inches from bottom pie cut and you can drop your tree anywhere you want it to fall! AWESOME
You cut the back side to allow the remaining attached grain act as your hinge point
Then your tree turns on the hinge to the location where you want it to go. Only 2 cuts.
He obviously doesn't have a clue how to sharpen his chain. After learning how to sharpen it he can buy a real saw and chunk that junk into the dumpster.
3 cuts 2 for the notch 1 at the back 😜
Alot time in front of the notch, be careful
😮😮I don’t think I know enough to be cutting trees higher than 5 feet tall.
This man doing extra cuts for no reason.
So cool, homeowner appreciated the extra work.
If the tree hits you, the helmet will not be of help.
No, but if branches break off as it falls, it can save him for many, depending what size. It helps the odds. But the whole tree, yeah, wouldn't help.
It's not a unique, it's how it's supposed to be done.
Professional and so beautifully done
You know not everyone is an expert so maybe this little bit of advice will save someone I live in Vermont have used a chain saw for 37 yrs mostly cutting fire wood but I’ve read about people that work out in the woods with years of experience and that’s where they find them my advice have someone with experience show you always respect that saw and that tree, good luck 🙏
No thanks Notheau
Ok Mr no nothing them cuts are more dangerous using your bar tip pushing it in. . cutting trees or playing junga
It's a hinge cut . Every tree man does this...
No only the idiots that want clicks
Nah I've done it. It has its place. If you want to keep the tree on the stump, this is the way.
Only when it's needed .. and it sure wasn't needed here .. that tree was leaning like the Tower of Pisa , with no trees on the side to steer it and make it roll on the cut ..
This isn't special... it's a normal and well-known technique
Everything was fake until bros inner child couldnt be contained, that was the realest thing this video had to offer
The tree has also been topped.
Talk less and allow the audience watch
Brilliant. I love seasoned craftsmen. ❤😊
He didn't invent it, but he is good at it.
Its not unique its standard you ipad baby.
Where are you working now? It’s not common practice here so just wondering.
@@joshuacook4273Ally Oop used it. That is how old it is.
Had a big elm tree with a wicked lean. I cut it down with this technique, and it fell exactly on line with the notch seemingly defying gravity based on the lean. 👍😎
I call bs
This is probably the most significant use case of this technique. If you got some heavy leaner that you need to redirect a couple degrees off his lean.
Otherwise I see no real use for this technique.
"Damn Sonny." That is slick.
Now that is a skilled Tradesman
Outstanding skills ! Thank you for sharing !
My stepfather was a professional lumberjack for decades, he did three cuts and could land a tree between two others 1m apart. You don't need so many cuts or have them so high up to be precise.
Fact.
You don't if you are a true master with decades of experience. But for those new to this job this is quite useful.
I mean…it’s what experienced arborists (tree trimmers) have done for a while. This is why you hire a professional
As an MD, the medical emergency she was suffering from is called schlongus interruptus. Very serious if not treated immediately.
I hate to burst your bubble! But when I bought my 2nd chainsaw in my life; a 16” Stylh Chainsaw! The owners manual tells you how to do this exact cut in the Tree! It’s a Safety measure To prevent the chain from kicking back at you and harming you the schedule come up with this the manufacture did to protect the owner of the chainsaw!
Get a clue people
I love seeing clever workers that really think about their job and come up with original processes.
My cap is off to you.
The best idea!
Good job!
Congratulation brother!
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Walking between those two trees?
You can NEVER asumme
Alot of people says that they could do it without this technique but its really a smart move....thanks
Every other comment made by an asshole: this isn't unique this is how everyone does it
Me, not an asshole: oh wow that's a cool technique, now I know how to cut a tree down with a chainsaw properly
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That's not proper. It's fancy and honestly more risky for the tree feller than conventional methods.
If you need to drop a tree, please research the standard, time tested technique. (Which basically boils down to a face cut wedge and then a finishing cut slightly above it from the opposite side to hinge the tree in the direction of the face cut)
The top is already out of that tree!
The chain is Dull!
NICE saw.... real nice!
Learn what a "dutchman" is and stop doing that.
The reason this guy is cutting it this way is its almost lunch time and his saw is getting dull and he works by the hour.
No you don't... because a hinge cut is rarely ever used ... and its actually dangerous. Watch any company who drops trees . Nobody over falls a tree like this . If it's in danger of hitting something, they top it first, then make a standard cut .. a hinged cut is possible..and even helps in some rare circumstances...
But you don't need it to fell a leaning tree with no obstacles in the way ..
Learning by CZcams can get you hurt if you're not careful. This isn't a cut that inexperienced cutters need to be doing . First thing you're probably going to do is stick your saw ..then things start getting real risky trying to get it unstuck.
Every Lumberjack know how to cut a tree this video is for beginners listen look and learn
Amazing how a tree can be cut this much before it does actually fall... Nature.. Also.. Skillfully Felling...👌🏾
Uniquely a waste of time. The log was 10 feet tall.
Don't find many pines 10 dt tall. Good observation.
...it was just,a demo'...
@@jasonliebenberg7918 ya they're all "demos"
Dude, I watch August Hunicke out on the west coast (Grants Pass Oregon) and he is an arborist, and uses most of these, if not all of them, depending on what he's cutting, whether it's a leaner and what other obstacles he may be dealing with, and sometimes has to use a guide line to ensure the tree falls where he wants it to. he's been doing this for decades and has a full crew and business.
👍 An excellent and amazing video. Nice cutting of tree. Thank you very much for sharing.
I know nothing about proper tree cutting technique, but seems like extra insurance that it will fall where you want it for a just a little extra time and effort.
Also, cutter seems to be properly equipped safety wise.
Yeah, do this to a tree that’s not been topped yet
I've used this. It works.
Looks like the tree had already been top out. When the tree falls, you can see the shadow on the tree beside it that it been top out and you can tell by the noise it makes that it ain't the whole tree.
Stops the butt bouncing around and the tree stays in place❤❤❤❤
Gold mate pure gold. Well done! Chris, Western Australia 🇦🇺.
All the critics. The guy did an excellent job.
Absolutely great job. I believe there's way to many jealous people out there.
Nice job Mr.
He's great! ❤️
Oh look a PERFECTLY HEALTHY TREE WHICH CLEANS THE ATMOSPHERE BEING CUT DOWN.
It's not "unique", it's a gimmick for videos. No timber cutter does crap like that.
I need to try that next time I take a tree down.
THE PAIN THIS TREE MUST HAVE GONE THROUGH ALMOST RUINED MY CARNIVORE DIET, BUT THEN I REMEMBERED I'VE GOT A JUICY 80Z STEAK FOR DINER.
If the tree falls on somebody's house with no one home, does anyone hear it?
Still always SADDENS me THE TREE CAN GET AWAY & YOU KILLED IT
The destruction of a tree is vandalism.
Tree in good health does not deserve to be terminated...
This is exactly how I have been cutting my Birthday cakes all these years!
This technique has been around for about 100 years. I’ve done it. It’s cool. It also requires a lot more cutting.
No. It seems it is more than four cuts!
Nah wrong step in the first place hahahahah