I Just Lost To A Cat In Chess
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oh Mittens, you little menace
IS THAT CHESS ITSELF?
Oh my
Whoever came up with the idea for Mittens needs a raise. Most entertaining troll I've seen in chess or on your site :)
meow
Here before this blowup
I saw mittens rating and went, 'Oh, finally an opponent I can beat!' and then got whipped by a mate in 16 moves
Ah I just resign after 28 moves
i got mated in 28
Dude I got clapped in a few moves mittens is ranked 1 elo becuz she has 9999++ elo. Yes ++ ELO. So, I got completely whipped
Martin: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?
lol i got mated in 27
so happy to see this, I was so mad when I beat all the bots, moved on to Mittens and lost five times in a row
he can beat 3200 elo bot elo lol
Actually same man xD
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Thatâs hilarious
@@attheshirmpd5800 it a she
Mittens is probably Martin's cat
It is playing like stokfish
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Don't underestimate the power of a 1 elo cat
By one Elo, they meant 1,000,000 Elo.
What if mittens is magnus'es cat though?
"Man put low expectation on a 1 Elo Mitten, live to regrets it"
LOL fr
So true I got whipped 3 times in a row already expecting more then 10 rn
Doesnât live
this cat's elo has 1 in it for sure
dhar mann vibes
Really thought Mittens was an easy opponent, I cried.
Same I lost basically
@@aldoclasher7890 no you didnt
I think you just got so badly oblizerated that you forgot what happend
@@RooklifterFRRRđđđ
@@aldoclasher7890no u didnt
Just drunken bishop gambits him lol
I heard mittens beat stockfish 15 (3200) so mittens is really ridiculously strong. I really like all the other cat bots, they're cute and fun bots to play against for a lot of people that aren't super high rated.
Mittens just got lucky. He's max level engine in disguise ( 3200 ).
I think there must be an error which make the bot too strong
Originally it would be at elo 2000
@@luuduonghy659 someone else said that itâs difficulty setting is random, which makes sense.
I have created a game between him and stockfish 15.1 and stockfish won in late game thanks to one of 2 pawns that promoted to queen.
Fun fact: after losing the bot basically calls you a cheater
stockfish 15 beats mittens
probably stockfish level 15 disguised
Yeah she is
@@c-r0w yes
I played with him and got 80.0 accuracy and he got 94.5,he was black
@@chakraborty4562 The cat played 99 percent accuracy against me đ
My theory is mittens really is 1-rated and exclusively plays random moves, but sheâs very, very lucky
And what's the best, statistics can never be sure about it.
but he has time stone
Yeah. Don't you dare say that cute cat's cheating. Just look at it!
*she, mittens is a girl
@@xXMindSoulXx ok ma'am nobody cares about a cat's gender
I like how he tries to explain why en passant is the optimal move
En passant speaks for itself
Hans Passant
Nope it's "En passant"
holy hell!
@@bonjourjesuisquelquunwhat
I really appriciate him explaining things, im trying to get better at chess
Its funny how mittens is 1 rated but he can beat litereally everyone
except for a funky stockfish named "15"
Heâs number 1 of course he can beat anyone
Youcan'tsolvethis That True But If You Practice More In Chess You Can Beat Mitten
@@kleelee6246 if the rumors of mittens being > 3000 are true, then you really have no hope
as of what i could find, the highest rating ever achieved is 2882, and even reaching 2900 seems borderline impossible, meaning there'd be at least a 118 elo gap between carlsen and mittens
in other words: we're fucked
(all of this is up to speculation and coming from a bored 670)
Even putting aside mittens the other cats seem underrated as well.
I think theyâre rated right, scaredy-cat is 800 and I beat it, Iâm on a losing streak at 300 elo I suck at chess
@Bloody Eyes Gaming theyâre evolving
well i think that's a bot thing. I'm very bad against human players but i can beat the bots all the way up to 1100. Against people i'm 500
My guess it's that it's an adaptive bot with a really wide range.
Makes me feel better. I lost to Mittens playing the Vienna-my strongest opening.
I lost playing the kings gambit, my strongest opening too.
Lmao noobs i never lost to mittens. Cuz i never played them
@@AshDeep You're the real winner here
Ima play bs mittens with the BONGCLOUD
@@AshDeep you fool i never downloaded chess in the first place!
I was like "hahaha an elo 1 bot I wonder how this cat blunders" 3 minutes later
Me: resigns with the bot 17+ more material than me
Iâm actually watching this right after I raged against mitten
OMG thank god...I'm not the only one who raged against Mittens! đđ
I was skeptical when i saw the 1 rating
I was anxious when the highest level bot was 1400
I got scared when the bot started saying they've played against me before
I got mated in 16 moves.
31:26 I think there was a way to save the bishop if we move the pawn to c4, that would deliver a check to the king and also it would have created an escape route for our bishop (the problem is that by doing so we are losing a pawn which is a disadvantage and maybe it will lead to a bad position... but still the bishop would be saved)
I really like the video and hoping to see more gameplay from you. It's very interesting for me because you explain every move and what you're thinking.
Keep up the good work đ
I looked at the position at 9:25 in stockfish and found something interesting. The engine considers c3 to be an inaccuracy and Bd2 as the best move. If bxc2 is played the best follow up is not to take back, but to play Qc1 which is a crazy looking move. The idea being to allow the pawn to take your knight to activate your rook and when the queen moves to c7 you can take the bishop and have a substantial lead in development.
mittens probably ate stockfish and gained its powers
if that really happens i guess chess will be doomed
His true rating is 3267, someone revealed that when doing stockfish vs mittens
Is mittens the most powerful bot? Even better than custom?
@@bluettarius2017 yes it beated 3200 maximum once, i think it's rating is bounce cuz if u weak like 400 rated, it'll play like 800 and if ur 2800, it'll play like 3000
So my score is 1400 so does that mean it play 2800?
@@cationr I don't think it's bounce. I'm 1784, and mittens had a correlation with that of a 3000 anyway (atleast from what I was using)
But our scores are kinda similar so expect the bounces to be similar
The moves with your bishop and knight when checking his king I would never have thought of, pretty cool play
Yep, Mittens is an ice cold assassin. Checkmated me on the back rank before I was even half developed. Beats getting smoked by Mrs. Clause at least!
28:20 Opposite bishops is much harder to draw if you still have other pieces on the board. Opposite bishops is only drawish when it's just the opposite bishops.
0:16 Scarey cat
4:14 angry cat
8:17 Mr. grumpers
15:14 Catspurrov
22:41 mittens :3
27:23--after Bxa2, it felt like Rb5 was the move, because it takes away almost all the squares the bishop could use to move again, other than f7, and stops it from coming back to attack your g2 pawn. Putting the rook on a1 led it to it basically being stuck once black's pawns advanced.
31:20 Why you didn't gave the check on c4? Either King, Bishop or b5 Pawn would have to take it, but you would let your bishop alive and maybe still manage to win the game (that part would be on you, I am just 900 rate xD), but anyways it's always amazing to watch your videos. I really like that you explain why did some move was either good or bad and suggest some better move and explaining why that would affect your game in the future. Thank you so much for spending precious tome making those videos for all of us!
That's max level engine. I used hints and all the games were drawn
Damn, my engine failed me.. it was win for Mittens
I find mittens wins like >10% against the engine.
Mr. Grumpers meows for himself.
I did exactly the same as you, except that I blundered playing too quickly and hung a rook against the 1200 cat so that one took me two attempts.
I played against Mitten, first thought "wow, it knows theory, lower rated Bots don't, that's strange"
Then I got destroyed
Later I played the lowest mode (with Stockfish) and it was a draw
From everything Iâve seen, Mittens is a modified top engine bot with adaptive play. Itâll change its play depending on how you play. Play worse, it plays worse. Stockfish 15 demolishes Mittens though. Probably because Mittens is designed to play with its food and is a literal troll. It has many times set up for moves and traps and not taken the pieces because it can do other things in the meanwhile. Designed to impress and destroy humans (unless youâre Hikaru), and did exactly that
Coincidentially, I tried the Mittens bot a couple minutes before you uploaded this. I saw the new cat bots and the one that intruiged me the most was obviously Mittens, thanks to the '1' rating. I thought I would win the Scholar's Mate, but boy I got smashed. I think Mittens is like this meme cat that just started playing chess because it likes the game but uses a top engine. Still, I think Beads was a better name.
oh my god
Smashed?
._.
a yllaer saw senttim
litnu (tac) reyalp detar-1
elots dna hsifkcots eta ehs
srewop sâhsifkcots fo lla
The cats meow for themselves.
4:09 "Scaredy cat tried their best." Dunno why but that line made me laughed so hard...
Very simple solution to mittens, setup a Lovely mate in one board and just wash all your problems away
I played Mittens yesterday and got wrecked. It played with 98% accuracy and all I could do was try to drag the game out while slowly losing.
MIttens is actually a flerken.
Have you analysed the game to see how Mittens moves compare to what Stockfish suggests?
- Bro, I'll be away for the weekend, can you check the cat for me?
+ Weird request but ok *moves rook to e5 *
31:24 play pawn c4 check then bishop a5 saves your bishop
Catspurrov purrs for himself.
I feel like mittens is Hikaru's cat
I went through a game (with engine reviewing). Mittens consistently plays 2nd best engine move, and occasionally lower moves for minor mistakes. But you have to be a computer to take advantage of those mistakes. Maybe a GM might see them, but they usually not exploitable directly.
Right before you resigned, I think you could have played c4+, creating an escape square on c3. But I'm only 700, I probably am wrong.
You're right, but it would have just been a slower death, being down by yet another pawn. That entire endgame was suffocating despite the open board.
@Mothuzad Technically, if this was a real person, this game could have been a blitz or bullet game and Mittens could have run out of time. Technically. Technically.
Mittens is a computer chess hustler. Got us all.
Maybe mittens is one of those self-adjusting bots. I'm only 1550 and ignoring the ones I lose immediately in the opening from trying new things that didn't work, it usually gets down to an even end game before I get outplayed and lose there, like 4 pawn and 2 rook or 4 pawn / rook / bishop. Would think I could never get that close if it just plays at master level straight up.
Mittens is definitely doing some anal-bead-level cheating, but that actually makes him very easy to beat. If you go to "Custom" at the bottom when selecting difficulty and change the timer to 1 minute, Mittens takes about 4 seconds to make every move and will run out of time after around 15-20 turns. I'm a 1200, and just by playing stalling moves and making sure to not make any major blunders, I managed to win against Mittens through a closed Guicco Piano position.
Idk what kind of hardware you are using but when I play mittens on bullet it only takes 1 second per move. Bot always either gets checkmate in 20-30 moves or I run out of time trying not to get caught.
Cats a beast.
yeah i also beat it with your technique
It takes less than 1 sec every move on my phone đ
*her, mittens is a girl
She doesn't care. She's a hustler, and 4 second moves is just a trick.
Actually you can beat him, you have to use Stockfish, but that's not enough.
You have to play something with the stable advantage form the beginning. The best is Ruy Lopez. This bot hates it.
The best I came up with was a draw. I used the help function in every move, so i think Mittens is just Stockfish
The help function is just stockfish's move
So you're saying mitten's draws max level stockfish
okay...
@@Venotix stockfish draws against stockfish, duh
@@Venotix mittens beats max stockfish itâs been done
From what I saw, Stockfish 15 beast Mittens. Pretty sure Mittens is basically just a version of Stockfish, but she sure aint Stockfish 15
i won by using stockfish
only way to save the bishop there is losing a pawn.
you can play "c4+".
if "Bxc4",
you can play "Bb4".
if "Kxc4",
you can play "Ba5".
but i don't think saving the bishop does too much. because this two squares are not good for bishop at this endgame.
Mittens is just a young cat that can beat literally anyone
Edit: I BEAT MITTENS!!
mittens is the magnus of the cat universe ; the current world champion
Not Stockfish
You did not beat mittens.
I did beat her
@@ClyFwend whatâs your elo
Mitton's rating is one, possibly meaning #1 where Mittons is stronger than all the grandmasters combined
Have never seen nelson focusing so much can tell just by how heâs talking
I already suspected that something was wrong when I saw mittens rating I analysed the game and I made 3 inaccuracies and still lost!
Idk if im wrong, but you cold of moved the pawn from c3 to c4 to make a check and thene the bishup cold move to a safe square like a5.
Also sorry for bad spelling xd
31:08 Doesnt c4 save the bishop? its check and the bishop can move to the other squares
I saw some people saying that even stockfish 15 had trouble against mittens lol deffinately not afraid to show those danger mittens đŸâ ïž
Mittens meows for itself.
Interesting Mr Grumpers played Qa5 against the Sicilian wing gambit. Iâve had the bots play that against me in my slow campaign against them. Iâve recently had Oscar and the Alex Botez bots play it but I didnât think to see a 1200 bot play it too. It definitely seems to be tricky to have bots emulate human play styles at any rating. They have a different feel.
Man, I got my first loss in 2023 because of mittens đ I thought he's a easy opponent but damn, that little cute bastard just crushed me in 20 moves!
a yllaer saw senttim
litnu (tac) reyalp detar-1
elots dna hsifkcots eta ehs
srewop sâhsifkcots fo lla
So after observing mittens for a bit, it seems to love picking a specific piece and trying really hard to make it obsolete, once it sees an obsolete piece, it straight up forgoes taking it just to develop its board better, it also massively prioritizes denying a large amount of spaces over taking pieces, it also seems to like forcing the player to move their king upwards and nailing them on row 4 or 3. Overall...Iâd love to see Magnus face it and maybe break down itâs strategy better.
I'm glad I'm not the only one getting my ass beaten by a cat. When I tell ya I've never been this angry at a cat before ...
Idk in Mittens round you can go c4 open a way for bishop and check the king
I always go from low rated bot to high rated bot. Went for Mittens first, got trashed spectacularly
In the resigning position you had pawn check and you save the bishop at the cost of some material and m a y b e you can play for a draw
You have to set the timer (1+0 preferably) to bullet to beat mittens, it thinks for way too long...
That's how you get your revenge
I had stock fish play Mittens and they drew by repetition of moves Iâm not kidding
I thought the same like "oh, 1 elo, cool!"
I saw this cat was thinking 5 seconds at his first move and then I said "yeah... veeeery funny......"
26:25 wouldn't bishop b5 be a better move?
I'm just a begginer but that looked like a good move
You could try to move the pawn to c4 for a check and then it would have saved your bishop?
i put him versus a 3900 stockfish and he won
1 isnât the elo, itâs the rank
Saw mittens and lostâŠ
I was so mad and was waiting for a vid
1 elo, but 2000 elo in disguise
Well, thereâs one foolproof trick to beat mittens every time! Turn on the âcustom gameâ setting, and start your game. Now, there is a strategy to follow for every move. You click the light-bulb button, and follow the move it tells you. Do that every move to secure a simple victory against mittens. After the third time youâll get a warning about how youâll get less crowns for winning. Ignore it.
31:17 c 4 check so the bishop can run
See games against stock fish 15 against mittens it is super crazy.
1 isn't his ELO, its his place in the world
They better start working on a Nelson (Lopez) bot!
I fear no man, but that thing *meow*, it scares me.
I love how they used the image of that one cat standing
Catspurrov meows for himself.
they shouldâve named one of the cats catastrophe
If Mittens is like 3000, then I guess it's not bad that I (technically 1300 rapid, but I've only play bullet for the last year, where I'm 1000) managed to still be in an equal position (+0.06 as white) by move 15 without really trying, though I blundered to a tactic on the next move and got checkmated 4 moves later.
After testing with Stockfish 14 NUEE offline, Mittens is definitely just Stockfish. It obviously doesn't make the best moves all the time because of the low depth it's ran at. Mittens actually has some funny dialog if you get to move 41 and beat it.
whats the dialog
what dialog
â@@popff7
After Move 41: "You have triumphed in existing for longer than
many before you. Hehehe. Meow."
After Checkmate: "WHAT???? HOW!!!!??? YOU CHEA-I meanâŠmeow! Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe-"
You just know that (1) rating is an integer overflow.
Im a 800 Elo player and got a close game with Mittens. Idk how i ended up like that, pretty sure he was up most of the time by like +3 or +4 but for my 800 Elo i think i did decently
In addition to figuring out its rating I think the community should also try to figure out if the cat bots have some sort of "gimmick" and not just being another chess engine bot.
What clued me in I am seeing people disputing Mitten's rating with some saying as high as 4K while others are saying it seems easier against a human player and playing closer to 3K or even lower.
So my first guess is that it knows how to play against the website's own engines which can be used to obfuscate it actual ranking and prolong the "newness" of the bots so that you don't just see that it is stockfish rebranded. E: Another idea I am seeing floating around is that it acts as a +X elo rating compared to the account it is playing against which would help explain why it might struggle against regular bots when viewing it but able to crush the top level engine it has.
Interesting. It seems to be at Level 25 rating (3200 ELO) when paired with websites' top engines: I made it play 4 games with 3 different website engines and it drew all 4 games but lost to Stockfish in another one. Or its performance might change depending on how strong you play but its ELO surely varies within a minimum and a maximum amount of points. I definitely have to try to pair it against weaker bots or play it myself and see how it performs.
meow
By the way @0:52 isn't it bad to be forced to put our pawn on c3, because that blocks our knight from developing to its most natural square? Or is that not that big of a deal?
I was confused why it was 1 I told my friend and then we played a match together and heâs pretty pretty good we got mated in 20
This cat crushes me in every opening I play. Dude. I've learnt that 1»1300.
Mittens is a cat, it plays with mice before killing it.
We are mice.
It stuck me in the depth of my side creating a big zwigzang, then started to eat me alive.
mate in two on scaredy cat he just couldnt see it
I played this guy earlier, thought it might be "easy" (haha)... he seemed to whip out moves super-quick and took me apart very quickly... I'll bet it's at least a 3000 level...
Scaredy Cat speaks for itself.
i played it and analyze, some moves "komodo" thinks are wrong so i would guess its not as stockfish but around 2600-2700
I dont get how people underestimated mittens, those first dialogues are a dead giveaway
I knew it, they just disguised stockfish as a cat with 1 rating.
I saw mittens and felt bad for it so I threw the first game just so it has some fun too. I played 3 more games with it and lost all my feelings...