Brake Rotors Compared - Zimmerman - OEM Replacement - BMW, Audi, VW, Volvo, Porsche, & Mercedes
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- čas přidán 26. 04. 2012
- ► We're here with Mike G today to compare some of the different types of brake rotors offered by Zimmermann brakes. Mainly the three different types of Zimmermann brake discs, standard OEM replacements, Zinc-Coated, and Cross Drilled or Zimmermann Sport rotors.
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Just ordered these for my bmw 2011 328, got a feeling I’m going to love these.
You wont be dissapointed!
Make sure to let us know how you like them!
My Zimmerman rotors lasted about 43k miles on the front. Just changed my pads from hella/pagid which worked great to ate. I feel my rotors in front are just now warping and need to be changed. I'm a bit hard on my brakes and love the stopping power. I'm surprised how long they lasted. Just ordered the Zimmerman sport drilled from fcp. Price was the best.
I have a 2013 a7 3.0 356mm rotors.
Hope this helps
That's great to hear your Zimmermann rotors lasted so long, Michael! Thanks for the support. Let us know how you like the sport drilled rotors once you get them installed.
Are Hella-Pagid brake pads better than Zimmerman brake pads ?.
what's the best brand (does zimmerman make any for Japanese vehicles) for corrosion resistance on an FJ Cruiser? Anyway offer up their experience/knowledge
FYI holes/slots aren't for heat. its to let the gases escape so the pad stays flat on the rotor
I want some rotors like at the end with the 5 holes curved for my 335i, why cant i find them on FCP site ?
Those are only drilled not slotted rotors.
However having had a pair of these on a s70 for over a year they do not rust up over night like stock volvo ones do. a nice feature.
Was it a t5 s70?
Good Morning!! I'll use it with an EBC RedStuff tablet, okay?
great quality and very good price! This is the only alternative for bmw e46 wich works without any shaking!
Glad you like it!
Zimmermann ?? I have a 728i and i need some good rotors....
I just bought zimmerman rotors I really like how looks. I just hope last a bit longer than normal rotors.
"The cooler your brakes are the better they are going to work"... I think different braking material each has its different optimum performance temperature zone, just like tyres have an optimum temperature zone as well, so does the engine itself, etc.
that's why it is more of an art because the science and specs are kept under wraps.
Benz and many other German car OEM examplify how fast hard semi-met pads can chew through soft discs 😂
Thank God Japanes Akebono formulated excellent Ceramic pads for long-life, no noise, no dust, no more high maintenance chaos 👍🏻
You carry any Zimmermann Drilled for a 2014 535I?
The drilled ones is not to let heat escape, but the gas created by braking between pad & rotor. This will make you able to push a little harder compared to non-drilled rotors.
I think those are the ranurated patterns. Though perforations might help to "drain" this gas, they are mainly cooling drillings.
Out of the 3 rotors shown, which one is the Zimmerman Premium and is the “premium” coated? That is the ones that they installed on my Volvo XC60 T6.
Hey you, the majority of the Zimmerman rotors we carry right now all come coated. There are very few expectations for specific models that may not be coated. For more info on the Zimmerman rotors we have on your car, be sure to use our vehicle selector on site!
Can you recommend the best brake pad type for drilled zimmermans? Car is used for dailydriving and sometimes going to the mountains where the braking is heavy.
czcams.com/video/gbE5acVbn4o/video.htmlsi=boH-mUNUwbokEkWV this should help you out!
I just ordered some zimmerman X drilled rotors last night for my passat. Only heard good things so far......
Still have the same rotors on?
The zimmerman rotors are cast with the holes. this makes them much stronger.
Two questions:
What is the advantage of slotted rotors?
If using ceramic pads, are drilled or drilled and slotted rotors any better, or a waste of money.
Holes or slots help air ventilation and expel heat, the rotors will run cooler and cool off faster. The slots will also help to scrub the pad surface. You'll notice slightly better braking performance in daily driving. It will be more noticeable during track driving.
@@fcpeuro The slots will wear your pads faster...stick with normal rotors
OK after two M vehicles 3 and a 4 comp as well as a f10 M.
drilled and slotted styles each have their own application just as a BBK or big brake kit are more for style on the street unless making considerable high speed runs followed by aggressive cornering as the bigger pots larger rotors larger pads allows for more force to be applied that couples with material of the pad and rotor work in conjunction to stop shorter while reducing heat before the next cycle/ brakes applied again. Now with that said and the cars I've owned all had modest modifications for hp and suspension upgrades but all were spiritedly street driven never tracked.
I say this, the M3 coupe had the most fade from 140+ down to 60mph on OE rotors and akebono ceramics.
The M4 and the 5er both have substantially larger brake components from factory and both are capable of 160+ mph like the M3 so after some runs the stock comp setup on the M4 is proper but still has the same characteristics as my M3 heat them up and here comes the fade but again were talking crazy illegal speeds on all US roads and very few world wide unless your tracking the vehicle or well being slightly reckless continously every day drilled is not necessary,
slotted, more for dirtier climates were keeping a clean surface on both pad and rotor are ideal and also has some very slight cooling but most cooling of a rotor stems from venting or plain radiant release of more surface area in the groove cut,
true superior performance stems from Materials used in both pad and rotor as well as force applied (caliper design) all working together to remove heat while still applying force to arrest momentum.
if you really want to be the brake king grab yourself a BBK carbon ceramic setup 👌
in most cases, drilled and slotted rotors are less durable than plain rotor. The holes are the failure points of crack. Not a good idea for people who want to have a comfort ride.
I thought the holes were for out gassing?
they are
It might be a good add on to tell about the drilled ones that it is beneficial to clean the holes once a year at least :) or else you build up crap from braking wich will clog up the holes.
Also with Zimmerman brake rotors you need special brake pads. Not special in a way "you can't buy them anywhere except one place" but special meaning that when you change your brake rotors for Zimmerman rotors you may have to change your brake pads as well as they may not get along well and instead of gaining brake power you may actually loose some. Have a too soft composit pad and the friction will increase heat that lowers brake efficiency. Have a hard brake pad composit and you get good braking power but if it is too hard you end up with squeaky brake noises :D there is no telling in which goes best. You simply have to try out. But it helps if you find someone who can assist you throu the selection and tell you about the pads if they are soft, softer, hard or harder and sort them out. But if your local dealer has Zimmerman brake pads along with rotors in store, take it.
thats my biggest concern know after i bought Hawk hps 5.0 pads,, i don't know whether Zimmermann would squeak, or go unheard , any idea?
you have an excellent point!
Unfortunately brake parts reviews are more about looks and touchy feelings than hard facts and specifications for adults.
Akebono or Textar is all you need!
I think they're all coated now. Noted this video is 8 years old.
just installed these on my car and i realized i didn’t shave to use brake cleaner whixh i did.. what should i do
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Do the Zimmerman drilled rotors have cracking issues?
No. Why should they?
YZRandomE all drilled rotors have cracking issues.
Well you can't drive them worn up. If they are done and there is no material left they need to be replaced with new ones. Simple as that.
Even though the coated ones are advertised as preventing rust, the rotors are not rust free. They will start rusting after the first car wash or rain. Got rid of the brake dust by installing ceramic pads on this rotors, but now i have a nice rust ring on the inside of the wheels. Choose your poison.
Ive had mines for almost 3 years and they barely have any rust
Zimmermann rotors are a great value, and better quality compared to OEM Mercedes rotors. I ordered replacements for my C63. Unfortunately these morons sent me rotors for BMW instead. Wasted 2 weeks getting the correct rotors. Zimmermann rotors work great with ceramic pads. I picked up Power Stop ceramic pads which are a fraction of the cost and do not produce gregarious amounts of brake dust; stop the car better than semi-metallic OEM pads. Nothing like turning heads pulling up to a stop light with squeaking brakes- This side of the pond noisy brakes are looked down upon. Note: I have not track tested my brake setup. On "normal" road conditions they have performed well. If driving 150mph is normal in your country.
I love my Zimmerman Cross Drilled Rotors. I have put them on both my 1999 Audi A6 Quattro and 2000 BMW 528I Sport. Anyone who says cross drilled are for looks only is an idiot. Cross drilled allows for better cooling.
On my 1999 Audi A6 I had 4 sets of brake front brake rotors replaced in the first 50000 miles under warranty because of warpage front heat. Unlucky enough to purchase a car which Audi realized the brakes were under sized and increased the diameter of the front rotors from 288 mm (which I Have) to 312 mm. I just replaced the rotors on my 1999 Audi as I prepped it for sale and I had 240000 miles out of my front and rear Zimmerman cross-drilled and no warpage just reached the wear limit.
I have 60000 on my BMW 528i and no issues or warpage.
Cross Drilled still maintains the normal feel on your brake pedal unlike cross-drilled/ slotted which vibrate the brake pedal as the pads encounter the slots. Unlike all the cross drilled rotors for sale on sites such as ebay.com where some idiot is standing at a drill press and running rotors through it to drill the wholes; Zimmerman cross drilled rotors are engineered from the beginning to be drilled in manufacturing process and won't crack unless some cataclysmic event occurs and that can happen with non cross drilled rotors as well.
Not sure if Zimmerman has moved its manufacturing to China but I bought mine over 10 years ago and they were made in Germany. Definitely needed on modern luxury cars where the weight of the cars are over 4200lbs.
Sean Williams unfortunately they are made in China yet “coated” in Germany. That’s how they get passed the made in China thing. We have had lots of come backs with Zimmerman the past couple of years and no longer stand behind them. However the drilled option they offer seem to hold up much better. Good to hear you had good luck with them.
thanks for sharing your hands-on experience.
I guess you dont have hard pads glazing issue else you'd swear about slotted discs to wipe the pads
The site doesn’t even work. Every time I finish putting my address in the site just keeps me on that page
Fanatic are you referring to when youre checking out? Sounds like an odd issue, if youre willing to send service@fcpeuro.com an email about what issues your having I'm sure they can help get it sorted (or it may even be a bug our dev team needs to look at). Sorry for the inconvenience.
I suggest pushing the advantages of slotted rotors over so-called drilled rotors. They're more effective. People think drilled rotors are high performance. No. Not unless they're manufactured specifically, not after the fact. Post-drilled rotors develop fatigue cracks under hard use, and then break if not inspected regularly.
I thought Zimmermann's makes rotors for BMW & Porsche.
Nope, ATE makes oem for bmw e39, but I swapped them for ZM.
Depends on how you mean it. If you think that they produce it as an OEM part for the assembly line then no. But if you think they produce it as an aftermarket option then yes.
No,Textars on my BMW F11
F1 cars are fitted with no drilled rotors!Which is mean super brakes!Drilled just for a nice look
Mihai-Danut because they are ceramic.
For my bmw i prefer only original brake discs,than after market parts!!.
so you think aftermarket parts are made in a completely different factory than the original ones? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
zimmerman resulted in being garbage on my w212 e550. warped super quick.
Sorry to hear you had a problem with your Zimmermann rotors. If you bought them from us, please feel free to email service@fcpeuro.com and we would be happy to get you a replacement set!
And what are its brake disc and brake pads disc now?.
I have one myself! I am at this stage... previous owner cheaped out and I have warpage, front and squeak out back... 👌🏾 hesitating to just go OEM
@@producerkslice I’m 4 sets in since the original comment 3 years ago. They’re pulsating/warped even today
German company, but have rotors now made in China.
They are not
thing is made in China or Japan is using German factory equipment... that why Bosch parts are kept borderline junk to upstage Japanese quality.
200 dollars for 2 day delivery sux....you have to wait 9 days for free delivery
Drilled rotors bad if you have winters :) Drilled have 0 advantage exept for looks.
I live in an area where temp goes in summertime up to 38 degrees and during the winter below 20. Got the Zimmerman drilled rotors and I have zero problems. So how bad are the when someone has "winters"?
zinc coating helps reduce steel oxidation on non-contact surfaces: hub and cooling vanes !
The holes in the disc are not for heat prevention but for keeping the disc clean from break dust, water and other stuff. Typical myth
Soo much marketing hype fail
Dont waste ur money on Zimmermann, quality is verry verry poor.
can you elaborate about your findings?
what pad type, driving conditions, car type...
Don't be a fool..theres nothing beter than Zimmermann, and you know it
Then...What brand of disc brakes you recommend ?. Thank you.