What if Russian White Forces had won the Civil War? Kaiserreich Universe Documentary [E04] - Russia
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[WHAT IF GERMANY WON WW1? | KAISERREICH LORE E04]
This fictional Kaiserreich Documentary series explores the fictional timeline of the world's most popular alt-history IP, 'Kaiserreich'. In the world of Kaiserreich, Germany and her Central Power allies win WW1, leading to a world very different than our own. In this fourth episode of the series, we take a closer look at Russia after White force secured victory in the Civil War.
Russia enters the 1930’s having lost much, but is unified at last. In a harsh nation like Russia, however, the shadow of dictatorship is never far away. The populist and fiery orator Savinkov has managed to secure total electoral control over the Duma. The newly elected president of the Republic promises a return to glory, the subjugation of breakaway provinces, and an end to foreign meddling in Russian affairs. Beneath the surface however, Savinkov cracks down on journalists and dissidents, his opponents disappear and the checks to his growing power are failing one by one.
Russia is a country balancing on the brink between democracy and totalitarianism. And only Viktor Chernov and his democratic allies stand in the way of Savinkov’s total control of the Russian apparatus of state...
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Crew:
Voice Actor: Patrick Warner
Director: Marcus Jorgensen
Writing: Gabriel Matsakis, Vincent De Nil, Marcus Jorgensen & the Kaiserreich Russia Rework Team
Animator: Vincent De Nil
Producer: Vincent De Nil
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00:00 Intro & Sponsorship
01:00 1936 - Prologue
07:34 1917 - The Kornilov Affair
09:24 1917 - October Revolution & Russian Civil War
11:12 1918 - Lenin's Assassination
12:07 1918 - The Republic and the State
13:59 1918 - Ufa Conference
15:30 Talking Heads: Peterson (the Volunteer)
18:50 1921 - White Victory & Post Civil-War
21:49 1925 - Economic Crash & Vilnius Agreement
23:30 1927 - The Manchurian War
28:20 1929 - Rise of the Motherland Party
29:37 Talking Heads - Boldyrev
32:25 1930 - All the Russias
34:50 1936 - The Russian Powderkeg
36:14 Outro - Back The Attack! - Hry
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Aw man, not you too.. Guess you need that money though..
Hey can you update the mod because harts of iron 4 got updated Of new things there’s is trains and supplies in the game as a update I cannot play the mind for some reason can you guys please fix it
@@yomairab.5325 They are not the mod development team, they are artists
Oh then who mad the mod
@@yomairab.5325 Write this in the steam workshop page, pd: Good Work Kaiser cat team, keep creating, i am happy that you get sponsors, i hope this help more to sustain the project (Excuse the bad english)
I absolutely love the lore videos. They're so well made it might confuse people into thinking they're real documentaries
Some guy in USA did this
@@1650th huh? Tell me more please I’ve never heard about this. Are you talking about the war of the worlds scare or something else?
@@kingdomofvinland8827 some 7th grader did a report of the civil war with kaiserriech lore it was a reddit post
@@1650th can you please post a link to said post?
Also check out my humble documentaries
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This series is abosolutly breathtaking, it’s a shame that no one watches it tho
ayy that hit hard. Tell your friends!
I will
We will watch it together. For the the Kaiser cat team.
@@kaisercatcinema Kaiserreich itself took around 10 years after its inception to get the attention it has now iirc, keep making content this good and the eyes will come
@@Ronnan93 No worries, we intend to be here for a while :D
I like how this mirrors the history of Weimar Republic.
Yeah, whether it's Weimar Germany or Republican Russia, they both just go to show how fragile democracy truly is, and why it's important for people to vigorously defend the democratic ideals so many fought and died for against would-be tyrants, whether that's Hitler, Savinkov, Mussolini, Mosley, or even that bald asshole Peterson.
If Trotsky was anything then it wasn't soft hearted. He was unpopular for his outspoken radicalism within the party. As recent historians have noted much of his criticisms of Stalin boiled down to 'I would have done that, but better', the man also got his fair share of innocent blood on his hands during the civil war, he was only soft hearted by Beria's standards and only then because of their different private proclivities.
trotsky was better because he stayed true to communism. Decentralisation, Internationalism etc. all things Stalin abandoned.
Yeah well, he wasn't STALIN levels of horrible.
@@Bread-nx9fo That's probably because he was exiled and assasinated and was never the helmsman of the Soviet Union. If Trotsky became Lenin's successor, granted, the famines that broke out in Ukrain, southern Russia and Khazakstan may have been much less severe (while Trotsky was a heartless bastard he was nowhere near as vindictive as Stalin, who maintained the haphazard pace of collectivization, despite the agricultural chaos clearly eminating from it) the political purges and ideological puritanism would have been far more brutal. While Stalin was a harsh master, he was also a pragmatist, he kept the conservative elements of Russian society content by allowing the Orthodox church to continue to exist (although in a very restricted manner) and did away with much of the Marxist social experimentation (outlawed homosexual marriage, supressed avant-garde art in favor of socialist realism, etc.). Trotsky on the otherhand was a rabid marxist ideologue, believing not just in the historical process of dialectical materialism and the rise of proletarian societies and thus, revolution (which Stalin DID in fact believe in), he also believed in the social experimentation side of Marxism, iconoclasm against every facet of traditional society, the church, and anyone even expressing religious sentiment would have been viciously supressed, if not destroyed, anyone who spoke out against any new socially liberal policies or movements (seeing them as degenerate as many would) would be silenced one way or another. Even down to things like the expression of nationalist feelings, even from a basis of proletarianism, or even just cultural pride (things which Stalin capitalized on during the war) would likely at least be strongly discouraged if not supressed. Any type of collective pride outside of proletarian internationalism would be seen as counter revolutionary. If Trotsky came to power, we probably wpuld have seen a Russian versian of the Chinese cultural revolution under Moa.
@@stefans.466 Aye his commitment to internationalism would have made him better than Stalin but only as it would be likely that people would get real sick of him trying to invade them or topple their societies and the USSR would have gone the way of Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan, with a debolshevikication plan and the human costs and horrific crimes of the regime being common knowledge and completely delegitimising the ideology.
In a way an ideologue like Trotsky would have been much better than a ruthless pragmatist like Stalin.
he tried democratizing the army with disastrous results he was an ideological zealot .
You should read up on the Kornilov Affair. It wasn't at all as straight forward as you make it sound. It more reassembles a sitcom, full of miscommunication, rather then a sinister plot. When Kornilov was preparing to marched on Petrograd he thought Kerensky ordered him to do it as a first step of declaring marshal law under Kerensky. When Kornilov received word that he had been denounced as a traitor he thought Kerensky must have been overthrown by the Bolsheviks and that he was marching to rescue him. It was comedy when his troops met the Bolsheviks, armed by Kerensky, both sure that *they* where the once defending the goverment. I suggest Mike Duncan's episode about the affair on his Revolutions podcast. I only covered a bit of how stupid the whole thing was.
Though since this is an in universe documentary, maybe the narrator wasn't aware of this.
Imagine a dimension traveller watching this video and is questioning if he is back to his original dimension that is in this vid.
10:22
There is a mistake: you put 1st and 2nd name, which in Russia is called name and familia (family name). For example, Lavr is name, Kornilov is familia.
And there is VASILYEVICH Kolchak. Vasilyevich is not a name, it is otchestvo (father's name), which came to Russia from viking's naming tradition originally, like Son of Ragnar - Ragnarson. The same is with Vasilyevich - Son of Vasiliy. Kolchak's name was Alexandr.
Patronymic is typical Indo-European naming culture, not just Vikings. They believed that honor was passed from father to son. All the noble Slavs had a patronymic before the conquests of Rus.
An absolute masterpiece once more. I await with full excitement your documentary about the Ottoman Empire
Same! I want to see about the interwar arc of the eternal empire!
Always eager to see all these Kaiserrich documentaries, they keep getting better and better. Hopefully, once all the parts are up, you can put them all together into one massive documentary video.
"The flag may be different but the methods are the same."
- Viktor Reznov
That's the real Horseshoe Theory. Paternal Autocrat or Totalist or National Populist, an authoritarian dictator is an authoritarian dictator. Much as I love Syndicalism, I'd sooner support a Liberal than a Totalist.
"They will use you as they have used me. You must decide, decide what is worth fighting for."
This is actually why I wish the early reclamation war event still existed.
Basically if the Union of Britain, Commune of France and Socialist Republic of Italy all went hardline Totalist governments in "elections" the Entente got an event where they could choose to intervene immediately as per a request from the former Syndicalist governments.@@CABRALFAN27
I just get so overwhelmed everytime i watch one of these documentaries, its not a simple documentary or fan-fic, this has a lot of work and the final result is absolutely astonishing. I was brought to this universe thanks to HOI4 but its so much greater than a simple game. Cant wait for u guys to cover a WW2 and a cold war in this universe. Anyways, LONG LIVE THE VOZHD, LONG LIVE MOTHER RUSSIA!!
No la can a cubrir
Can't wait for the entire doc to finish. Maybe as a final video maybe mash them all together?
Oh yes, a massive eight hour lore dump video when the series is done
@@kaisercatcinema We're not worthy! Thank you
For CZcams, it would probably be best as a playlist with each chapter being a separate video.
@@kaisercatcinema can't think of a better way to spend a night
@@kaisercatcinema Wait, does this mean we are getting 16 episodes?
I'm surprised that you condensed Russia to under 40 minutes
Nice going KCC!
I REALLY REALLY want a full FPS game of the Russia Revolution from Kaiserreichs timeline, especially if you served under Savinkov or Kornilov. Maybe if S&Box (Source 2 Gmod) coems out, I would make some maps based off certain cities that would've taken place as battlefields.
An old joke: How do you describe the entire history of Russia in a single sentence?
"And then it got WORSE."
Funny, we have the same joke for mexican history
@@Leo-ok3ujIf remember right like 3 wars for independence and like 6 civil wars all in about 150 years
Oh, well I suppose Kerensky will finally have the peaceful retirement he deserves in the United States.
Wait-
*icepick goes chop chop*
@@aycsfvmk1289, I don't think Savinkov would waste time with Kerensky, who would be living as a disgraced exile in America, with no interest of returning to Russia. He would be much more concerned with people like Boldyrev and Chernov, who had the ability and will to end Savinkov's rule over Russia.
Excellent job once again! Everyone involved in the production of this did a great job.
It's amazing how detailed and high-quality these videos are, they're genuinely more fun to watch than most documentaries of "our timeline" :) I appreciate the clearly large amount of time and effort put into it and I hope you will continue making them.
Another great documentary video, guys!
Just one small thing, could you maybe include some more war maps or troop movements the next time? While I love the historical footage visible in the background, I had some minor problems understanding the Manchurian War part.
Duly noted. We ended up adding the Manchuria chapter quite late in production and didn't have the proper maps designed for it, so we kept it at a single overview map
These videos are incredible, they really make the Kaiserreich universe feel plausible. Great job !
Great video looking forward to the next one !
I'm loving these videos! Can you imagine someone picking this up as a novel or a TV series?
A testament to the fragility of information preservation over time. Remarkable and terrifying.
These videos are amazing . I love them. These four documentaries are some of the most high quality, entertaining pieces of alternate history I ever seen. Dam I would say That it could easily rival shows like man In the high castle.
Keep up the good work. Can’t wait for the next video.
Amazing as usual
I love this series so much I rewatch them all every two month
The evolution from the first video to this one is incredible
Incredible quality and creation!
This series and all of the lore is absolutely amazing! I can only imagine if it had the funding of an actual tv show
Looking forward to more episodes. These are so well done, one might confuse them for an actual documentary.
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Keep up the amazing work!! Sharing this with my friends. I can not wait for more of these. Always looking forward to them:)
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The documentaries are so cool!!! I wish someone reacts to this series.
It's so good it feels like real History
It's Amazing
Really great work from the Kaiser Cat team
So good, thank you.
Yes I love Kaiserreich I love the videos keep it up
Keep up the great stuff
I love kaiserreich, keep it up guys.
I love your channel keep up the great stuff
For The Tsar!
The tsar is dead in this universe too my friend.
*long live the vozhd*
God save the Tsar!
@@wackojacko0295 huh neat
Long live the monarchy !
@@wackojacko0295 The Tsar is dead, Long live the Tsar
Hey any chance of a tracklist for these documentary videos?
Anyway awesome work KCC :)
With the reversed Sino-Soviet Conflict of 1929 in OTL happening in KR universe, now I can understand how the Empire of Japan enjoyed considerable influence over the KR Fengtian Government. Probably the Japanese didn't even recognize the Qing Beijing government as the legitimate representative of China at all.
(And the Syndicalist International definitely only recognizes Sun Yat-Sen's followers as the legitimate Chinese government, being as based as they are.)
Syndie 😤😤😤
Based anti-Japanese communist (definitely not KR’s Mao) Wang Jingwei
In this timeline, Japan is the only country that recognizes Zhang Zuolin's faction as the legitimate government of China, while much of the rest of the world recognizes the restored Qing Dynasty as the legitimate government, and the Syndies, as they are want to do, support Wang Jingwei's radical socialist followers.
Never have I clicked this fast on a Kaiserreich vid
8:14
"... born in present-day Turkestan"
Are these documentaries being made from the viewpoint of the KR universe's 21st century? What would that world even look like?!
I think the documentary is made in-universe in 1936, when the Turkestan Republic was still very much a thing that existed.
The way he said coup, breaks my heart
Finally it’s here again
Amazing
I love that, pretty much until the 10:55 mark, the documentary is pretty much our history.
Loooooooool I love the video but I can't help but laugh at how Kerensky gets screwed in all scenarios
Kerensky gets a well deserved retirement - probably the best outcome he's getting in any fiction :O
At least he's still alive, right?
*Right...?*
Kerensky lived into the 1960s. I almost met him before his death. He led no democratic state. He misinterpreted Kornilov's attempt to save the anti Bolshevik government.
@@SithEmpiredidnothingwrong well no he didn’t, both Kerenskey and Kornilov wanted to orchestrate a coup and increase executive powers, Kernskey minterpreted Kornilovs willing to work with him and assumed he wanted to depose him
Watching this high makes me question if I'm in the right timeline
Why are you high?
Still wondering how kids are able to consume illicit substances and not having their parents worried. Weird times we live in.
Please make sure to do one on the Ottoman Empire and Atatürk’s role in this alternate world
Ataturk (or Mustafa Kemal Pasha, for this timeline) is kinda like the less insane, Ottoman version of Savinkov in Kaiserreich. He manages to become Grand Vizier (basically Ottoman Prime Minister) in the mid-20's at the head of his own nationalist front known as the Ottoman People's Party (OHF) and works to implement many of the same reforms he did in our timeline, except slightly less radical since the monarchy is still a thing.
I love your channel
I hope you guys make a episode like this but about the second American civil war
Can't wait for the Russia update to be released in 2024!
+2 weeks
@@kaisercatcinema wym
@@derinselanik1783 It’s a joke
@@cryptox826 I didn’t get the joke thats what i ‘m asking
@@derinselanik1783 it's a running gag made by the tno community when asked for the release date of an update (Toolbox Theory) which the someone (not sure if its actually a dev that said it or not) responded with "soon +2 weeks" and it spread like wildfire.
I've got all Bytro games on both mobile and PC (including Supremacy 1914). It's one of my favourite apps
Cant wait for Germany episode
Supremacy is unironically fun. Rounds can last for months though but still fun.
Yeah it has a charm - though I got whiped pretty early in my games by players just going random battle royale on me. I wish people would do the alliance game more
I love this series and one of the best alternate history videos I seen. I hope people would see and realize how much work you put into these idiots because they feel so realistic
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Great video! One critique I have as someone who lives in the Great Lakes (Michigan), it’s not really referred to as the “Greater Lakes Area” (time stamp 18:09), but just as the “Great Lakes” or “Great Lakes Area/Region”
Kaissereich gives such an amazing opportunity for "glory history" that is actually a part of a well written and constructed alternate history, rather then a spirit that is a slight and vague mix of past propaganda, major sides' opinions on matters and the radical spirits of individuals which echoed through generations and elements of stories.
Fancy talk La Fra- ...I mean French Syndicalist Union
P.S. this is meant to be a cool comment that tells a short-(insert a fancy word for related to time here) analysis aka a random thought. This means the inclusion of elements necessary to give a good enough general understanding of the final conclusion & does not include La opinions on La elements being touched on. Take it in more of a literal way. A well constructed and written work rather then something, just means that thing instead of another thing, and is not indicative of the following random internet person's opinion, whose comment you're reading in the current moment, about the given objects and/or systems of conceptions.
Apparently I still have enough analytical capacity for some fancy talk lol. Well, a way to give some value to the waste of a life I lived and will continue to live for a few more remaining weeks or months. By the way, why have you gone through so many comments?
That thumbnail is beautiful. Is there a link to the full image?
Great video, I will probably binge the series again. I am confused about the captions though. Why is Tzar spelled Czar?
Is there multiple ways to spell Tzar? I just want to know.
It's possible our captioner made a spelling error here, but Czar is a correct English spelling of the word
6:57 IRL, at one point in 1917, Kerensky had most of the Bolsheviks in jail after a failed coup, and Lenin, revealed as a German-funded agent of chaos, had fled to Finland. But Kerensky thought the tzarists were the bigger threat, and what happened, happened.
"All whith the State, nothing against the state" -António Oliveira Salazar
Amezing. Which country is next?
Long Live The Cinema!
I love the Art Work as the start i love it so mutch where to find it
So is the First Episode of the Documentary going to be remade, and the old one unlisted? Because the timeline for that stays with the Old KR Lore prior to the other reworks. Like the 2nd Battle of Jutland (Which is brought up and then to-be-continued HL2-style) and the WeltKrieg ending in 1921, instead of 1919 like in the later episodes.
Also is there a reason for Less Talking Heads? The Union of Britain ones were enjoyable, it feels nice to take a break and hear multiple perspectives from different characters every so often.
YES
Why does this differ so much from the official KR lore though? Afaik Kerensky still rules in Russia in 1936. Or is his just alternate history within alternate history?
Will there be a documentary about Austria-Hungary and how blessed Karl is faring as an emperor?
Great video. In the mod can you still bring the Romanovs back?
Yes.
Yes, I’m not 100% with the future rework but at the moment it’s possible
Are you going to do a lore video on China during kaiserriech
Huh, what? Isn’t Kerensky assassinated at the start of the mod????
Its new lore
GOOSEBUMPS
35:45 this sentence but instead of Chernov Navalny, is what was the situation in Russia a few years ago
Oooo has the canon changed now? I though you started Kaiserreich as Russia with Kerensky still in power?
And I swear the original attempted coup was by Kolchak who fled to form a state in Transamur?
Yep, canon has changed for Russia & Britain in particular. Savinkov will start in charge of Russia but can face rebellions in various regions. Britain starts a lot more centralized and militarized, in contrast with France which will be less-jingoistic and less militarized.
Irish gets it right, this is the new post rework lore
@@kaisercatcinema oooo funsies, always saw National Populists as the 'Canon' playthrough as Russia due to some of the Screen art.
Would we possibly ever get a documentary of the Second Weltkrieg style of 'The World at War'?
It would be almost like watching learning about ww2 all over again!
@@DanBray1991 The thing is that nothing is cannon after 1936 starts other than King George dies, League of Eight Provinces collapses, and Black Monday starts.
(Before anybody mentions Afghan - DOI war; in the new lore DOI is actually in Southern India.)
@@jonnunn4196 but why? Isn't it more reasonable that the colonialists would preserve their last bastions in Delhi and Osman Ali Khan is from Hyderabad?
My Kaiserreich steam mod is not working with the latest HOI4 update. I don't see any Tech to research and the build buttons in the construction window are all off. What do I need to do to fix this issue?
the narrator sounds exactly like Roose Bolton in GOT.
When the next video of these series Will be uploaded? And what Is It about ? Maybe Italy?
The next video will be about Germany's Post-Weltkrieg politics
It is both fascinating and unnerving to hear german view on russian history...for me as a Pole that is.
Отбоя не было, борьба продолжается.
Hail The Kaiser
just curious but how long will it take to update kaiserrieich to the new barbarossa update?
The KR devs are a different group entirely. The skill sets to make documentaries don't overlap with the skill sets needed to make code changes in XML files.
Is there ever any plan to release the bgm in these lore videos?
CZcams demonetizing this is so ridiculous. Comment to increase engagement!
I have a question: what's the song when Savinkov unites Russia in Kaiserredux (Superevent)?
What music did you use in 26:17
fight for the rails!
Would it be possible to make a video how the life in the „Reich“ would be today?
Which version of on the hills of machuria is this?
So I guess Savinkov route is the canon?
If you have come across Foxy's "Weltreich" universe kino series?, what do you think of it?
Are you going to do a documentary on the United States at some point?
wow
Who replaces Nicholas II after the White victory?
ONE NATION. ONE FAITH. ONE VOZHD.
Hearing a communist use Mussolini's quote to describe totalism sent chills down my spine, well done.
I make me a bit sad that Pyotr Wrangel got written out
My headcanon is that after Savinkov's takeover of Russia, Wrangel fless with his family to Ukraine, as Wrangel had been one of Savinkov's biggest critics this entire time, and he was friends with Ukraine's Hetman, Pavlo Skoropadsky. He settles at his old home in Yalta, Crimea, and lives there peacefully up until the 2nd World War. At that point, Russia invades the Oststaaten, and Wrangel joins the effort to defend against Savinkov's Russia. Skoropadsky is killed and Kiev falls, but Wrangel holds out with whatever forces he can scrounge up in Crimea, where they beat back attack after attack from the Russians, and by 1944-45, drive the Russians out of Ukraine entirely. After the war ends, Wrangel is elected by the Rada to succeed the late Skoropadsky as Hetman of Ukraine, and out of respect for his friend, Wrangel accepts. He would rule as Hetman until his death in 1958, being known by many a Ukrainian as the greatest Hetman in their modern history.
He got removed from the lore?
@@benjamintin136, not that I'm aware of. Actually, there's a path that if Russia loses Moscow during WW2, Savinkov is killed by a stray artillery shell, and Wrangel takes over long enough to surrender.
@@occam7382 But is there a path to play him before WW2? I've never played the mod, but I'm hoping that if I ever do, I get to do a playthrough with the black baron.
@@benjamintin136, oh yeah. Wrangel can take over Russia in 1936 and if you choose, restore the Tsardom, either putting a Romaov on the throne, or declaring himself Tsar.