Star Trek's Takei Is FINALLY Ending His Feud With Shatner..
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- Star Trek's Takei Is FINALLY Ending His Feud With Shatner..
Welcome back to Recap Fuel. One of the biggest celebrity feuds, which just happens to be in the Star Trek sphere, might finally be coming to an end. William Shatner and George Takei have traded barbs for decades and, now, it would appear that Takei has signaled that enough is enough. The Sulu actor seemingly squashed the feud during a recent interview by vowing to never speak of his former co-star again.
William Shatner did not get along with most of his former Star Trek castmates, though a few like Deforest Kelly, considered him a friend. William Shatner made enemies out of some of his former Star Trek castmates. Some eventually became his friend, others held onto the grudge they bore against him until the day they died. Others continue to hold on to their hatred.
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After nimoys funeral his daughter wrote to Shatner who had been writing letters and trying to get Nimoys attention for a while by then saying that Nimoy loved him and that for whatever reason her father became reclusive. Which often happens when you’re slowly dying of a terminal illness
Thank you for this. I would just cry to think that at the last years it was animus and resentment that kept apart such good friends.
I can understand Mr. Nimoy's perspective in all this. I am the oldest yet the smallest in a family of veritable giants. I had been a tiny, thin, visibly misshapen boy. This from an iatrogenic blunder complicating my breech birth delivery; and shortly thereafter, my stepfather smoking though my childhood and adolescence.
Mr. Nimoy indirectly, through Cmdr Spock, literally saved my life. In my mid-teens, I was experiencing what we now recognise as central sleep apnea, which I decades on had defined as "a disruption of the neural current between the CNS (central nervous system) and the diaphragm, of undetermined etiology"; to which my pulmonologist Dr. William Chinn replied, "Yes, that's still true.*
In the episode "A Private Little War", during a landing party mission, Spock sustains a nearly fatal gunshot wound. Back aboard the Enterprise, he lies in bed, during which time, he heals himself with his Vulcan mental disciplines.
I periodically would stop breathing during my sleep; I would wake unable to move a single muscle, the smallest part; I could not inhale a single breath!
Not once or twice, but a dozen or more occasions. They were and are the most frightening experiences of my life!
I adapted this Vulcan healing method. It took all my will to resume breathing. I have Mr. Nimoy to thank for my very life!
No Trekkie feuds No Trekkie fuads That God almighty No Trekkie Feuds!!. 🖖🏼🖖🏼🖖🏼.
@@mike197714 , it is the only logical thing to do.
@David R. Lentz I'm happy about your triumph, but since there is no planet Vulcan beyond our imaginations, you actually employed a variation of the 'placebo effect' , wherein a strong enough belief can effect a desired physical result.
Don't ever stop telling that story. You have no idea how many people might be helped by it.
@Inzane We can only hope the prevailing misinformation eventually trains the public to think for themselves again.
The Taoist novice is encouraged to learn all he can from one master, then move on to another monastery, another master........
Eventually learning to think for himself and becoming a master in his own right.
You know this......... others can learn it.
The more I hear about this feud. The more I find myself on Shatners side. They were coworkers. I don't invite coworkers to anything. lol
The beef is that Takei imagined Star Trek as an ensemble cast, no one any more important than any other. Shatner saw Star Trek as a starring role for him and Leonard and maybe Deforest and that's all. He saw the rest of the cast as all extras and treated them as such. Its the same basic beef Jimmy Dohan had with Shatner. If you're apart of "And the rest", you had a fundamentally different view of their relationship. Its funny, because for all the spoofing and all the jabs that Galaxy Quest took at Star Trek, they never pointed this out, that the Star Trek lead basically treated the rest of the cast as extras.
re: "lol" = what is so funny about your serious comment ?! or do you use that meaningless "lol" at the end of all social media statements.
@@warriormanmaxx8991 I think 'lol' has literally replaced the period as the 'end-of-statement' punctuation in a lot of peoples minds.
@@warriormanmaxx8991no it was funny i got it. I don’t invite my coworkers to any of my parties. It’s funny cause at work we get along really good. But outside of work I don’t know you 😳😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣. Lol Lol Lol Lol Lol😆
Met Takei in 1983 at a Star Trek convention.. literally met and talked with him at length because I went on a 2 mile jog with him. Of course the jog was open to everyone, but most of those that started didn't make it the first half mile, much less the full run. I was about to go into basic training, I was 18 and so managed it all the way to the end. What a treat. He was funny... engaging... and what a great, energetic and positive person he was back then.
I've been a fan ever since, but the bitterness very sad.
Yes, Takei is a very engaging and charming person to talk with. At several conventions over the years, I was able to have some long conversations with the guy, especially since he found out I taught history. A lot of it was about his experiences in the internment camp in WW2, which I was very interested in hearing about. Broke my heart when I saw him tweeting about the Covid vaccinations and his opinion that those of us (who for very good reasons) didn't want the vaccine should be put into a camp. Very disappointing.
Let’s fact-check this, ok? The content provider hasn’t been around since the original TOS aired on NBC, but I was 15 when I watched the original broadcasts. I talked with Shatner and Nimoy in 2006, worked on the Paramount Lot in the 1980’s, and most of what he said is WRONG. Shatner was hired to be the center of the action, known as “the money.” Takei, Doohan, Koenig, & Nichols were the 3rd tier, with Nimoy and Kelly being the second tier. All accomplished, respected actors, but lines that were written for others sometimes went to Shatner to move and improve the stories. Yes, it resulted in bad feelings among the cast, but it wasn’t selfish or vindictive. 😊
As I understand it, contrary to appearances Shatner wasn't concerned about himself. He was always trying to push the core trio of Kirk-Spock-McCoy.
Yes, and this is how I understand that Shatner saw it. He was there to do a job. He did it. And unfortunately, while Shatner saw it as business, some of his co-stars saw it as being personal.
@@davidradich9342 To Shatner is was a job like any other. To Nichols and Takei, it was HISTORY, look we minorities are on TV. Both side are in the right, but I don't blame Shatner for seeing it simply as a job. It lasted 3 years. It became HUGE years later.
Agreed. I was able to speak to the late Richard Arnold, and according to Arnold, Shatner was very chill and Nimoy was battling the bottle which Nimoy has admitted. I love them both. In regards to the feud this started probably back in the 90's, not back in the 60's. Yes, Shatner was the center seat and was self-centered and could be rude to fans, but he has mellowed a bit. Shatner has apologized for all his past behavior, but George has dragged this out over 30's years. I use to side with George, but he has nothing better to do anymore. Bill Shatner has come a long way and understands his mortality. I am sure Shatner does not want this childish bickering anymore. The character of Sulu was loyal and looked up to Kirk and that is quite obvious in the series. There should be peace before anyone gets any older. Walter Koenig told Shatner to his face what he thought about his behavior in Shatner's 'Raw with William Shatner.' Shatner asked for forgiveness and apologized. Let there be peace and warp away from the entity in 'Day of the Dove.' That is the moral of Star Trek. God bless Star Trek and all the Trekkies around the world.
richardslatin - I'm inclined to agree with you. One of Takei's beefs with Shatner is that in The Undiscovered Country, it was originally intended that Sulu's Excelsior would fire the torpedo with the gaseous anomaly detector on it, but Shatner had it changed so the Enterprise fired it. Personally I think it works better that way (apart from the continuity error of the equipment suddenly being on the Enterprise). As originally written, the Enterprise would have just sat around helplessly until Excelsior turned up. The revised version gave Nimoy, Kelley and Nicholls all a final chance to shine - to me, "It's gotta have a tailpipe" is Uhura's crowning glory - her idea saves the day!
Actually, the correct expression is '' I couldn't care less''.
But maybe he does care just a teeny bit :)
Actually the correct response also works as "I could care less". The contraction isn't needed in this case as the meaning is obvious and the word usage is still grammatically correct.
@@animalyze7120 Only if he has some caring - which is not what he meant. The contraction is a needless one used by far too many Americans - if you watch movies or TV made up to about the 1970s they used to say it in full.
Drives me nuts when people say it wrong 😤 lol
Agreed
Shatner recently said that he knows he doesn't have much time left on this earth and he would like to resolve what ever issues he and Taki have.
Good for Shatner. Whether they like it or not, fate has placed Shatner Taki and Walter as being the guys to put the final stamp on the TOS Legacy.
@@TheLAGopher I hope Walter lives long enough to make an appearance on the new babylon 5 reboot lol.
wtf?@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
@@NS6677 He was on the original babylon 5 and is almost 90 now dumdum
I know that, but that comment doesn't belong here in this thread
I get that there were personality clashes back in the day. But it's sad to hear that there is still bad blood.
Shatner and Nimoy not reuniting before Nimoy's death is probably the most tragic.
Also... While I live Sulu the character, I used to be a big fan of George Takei, until I saw the way he conducts himself on Twitter. He is a cruel, nasty person. Maybe he wasn't always that way, but he sure is now. And that is just so disappointing as a lifelong fan of Star Trek.
I feel the same way.. I loved George as a person back in the day. and he was great on the Howard Stern Show. But Social media has turned him into a toxic individual.
@@albertogonzalez2203 I agree. It's sad. Social media has done that to a lot of people.
I agree that George was pretty cool early on in social media, but he started with subtle nasty replies and posts, but then he kept getting more and more nasty is some of his replies and some of his posts. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he just kept at it and increased his nastiness.
I quit following him when he started talking down to and being nasty to some followers that 'dared' to disagree with him on some of his political views. So when he says that he will end his feud with Shatner......... well let me just say that I will believe it when I see it. We shall see if he means it in the future.
I've recently seen an interview with Shatner Nimoey Stewart and Frakes. Was that an older interview?
What does he say that is so bad?!
Nichelle didn't decide to leave over any tensions on the set. She simply didn't see the value in her position because they weren't giving enough for her character to do. What MLK did was make her see that simply being there WAS doing a lot by giving children a role model, someone to look up to who reflected them. She wasn't the maid. She was an officer.
I'm a fan of all the regular cast members of Star Trek TOS. But they were actors, playing their roles (and doing it very well) They were human beings, and as with all human beings, had their issues. Nobody's perfect. I do find it sad that they did not get along as well in real life as they did on the show. But when you have a group of people with different personalities, there are likely to be problems. It's just human nature. TOS is and will always be my favorite of all the Star Trek series. And the cast is no small part of that.
It's even sadder when you consider that the casts for the series that followed got along a LOT easier off screen.
I think Shatner summed it up best when he said George makes an issue out of this whenever he has a book or appearance out. Most of these things are just for publicity. Shatner also said that Sulu wasn't in all the first shows, so after that they recorded some animations where they were never in the same room, then in the movies they hardly had a scene together so they really have very little to do with one another. But there's no such thing as bad press they say.
it seemed to be mostly just two actors who played more minor roles and were deeply jealous of Shatner for being the main lead. Neither Jimmy Doohan or George Takai were exactly great actors in their own right, and their careers outside Star Trek were limited to none existent. Shatner also seems to have a very dry and self-depreciating sense of humor where he blows his own horn at ludicrous volume and makes outlandish claims specifically to make fun of himself. Takai and Doohan didn't seem to ever get the joke there.
To have George call Bill a Cranky Old Man, is like the ocean calling out the rain drop for being a little wet....
Life is too short for petty feuds.
It's not over. Takei has stirred the pot again.
Takes is a sad man, known now mainly for a meme and being bitter.
Let Georgie "stir the pot again"!! If Georgie was such a happy person, married to a man, there would be no need for such "theatrics."
Billy Blackburn who had the wonderful presence to film back stage on Star Trek quite clearly said that William was wonderful to everyone and was always very nice to him and he didn't see any nastiness or diva behaviour. So I know who I believe in all this lets face it we all can have our off days but William is just not a nasty person certainly not knowingly!
It would be ideal if William Shatner, George Takei and Walter Koenig, the last three stars of “Star Trek” to get together, whether privately or publicly and just air out whatever grievances they have had.
Maybe they won’t become the best of friends but atleast be respectful towards each other because, most likely, within the next ten years they may no longer be with us.
They should do like Patrick Stewart did with Picard! Come back while you still can! It could work! Or cameo in Star Trek 4?
I agree, George is only relevant thanks to Star Trek.
@@willpower8061 George is a great actor no matter what you say and as you previously stated falsely in another comment above from a few days ago. While Shitner has 248 acting credits to his name Takei has 243, how do you get 1/10th? His best was "Star Trek New Voyages - 1x03 World Enough and Time" easily found and watched online or downloaded free.
@@mlt6322 I wasn't questioning George or Shatners acting, just his role on the show.
In regard to credits, Shatner is well know for a number of popular roles and characters, George is not.
I like Takei and wish he'd stick to being Sulu since there's so little time left.
@@mlt6322 I met George and he was an absolute pleasure to meet as well as his husband Brad, we had a laugh and a joke and he took the time to talk to me at an autograph meet in London whereas William Shatner didn’t even bother to acknowledge who he was signing for, just signing very quickly as apparently I heard he was in competition with Leonard Nimoy who could sign the quickest and get the most fans through the queue and believe me these two were fast. This is just my opinion and first hand account.
George came to Adelaide in Sept. 2022 for an appearance, when asked by the MC who was his favorite Captain he volunteered Shatner. I vouch for old George because I was in the audience. Love to both guys, Xx.
You... have personally.... vouched?
It was arrogant presumption! lol@@RJSRdg
The opposite is true, every time Shatner gets press, Takei has to do something so he gets some attention too. Takei has been a baby and overly contentious regarding Shatner and Shatner has pretty much ignored him. I hope Takei has finally grown up.
Takei hasn’t achieved 1/10th what Shatner has achieved…
That's giving Takei too much credit.
Sulu has accomplished a great deal as an Asian in film and television! Sulu was like a Rodman or Horry! Spock was Pippen! The role players, and even the bench gets a championship ring too! Takei is great as his team/cast! They were the greatest! George as well, why he is held in such high regard! And longevity and legacy that stretches to neutral zone, and the great barrier!
Try 100th.
Yeah, it seems Shatner was very successful at pissing off and alienating his co-stars. Hmmmm.
@@illtyperecordsyoungasscrim1374 He wakes up to another man! We don’t need him on a starship how about the good ship lollipop! lol 😂
There is no feud, because a feud takes two. This has been one-sided, Takei sniping at Shatner for years, and Shatner being somewhat bewildered by it all and asking for an end to it time and time again. Apparently now Takei wants to make it look like he is taking the high road. I've lost all respect for Takei. He has shown himself to be a small, petty man. I can only hope he stops his incessant whining, because it does nothing positive for the Star Trek TOS brand.
I don't think its one-sided .... Shatner is good at brainwashing his fans to believe in everything he said ...
The truth is that the cast of his co-stars mostly hated him as a big-headed ego centric star .... its not just Takei talking badly about him... Takei simply is more expressive than the rest of the cast thats all, and Takei is also quite a comedic person, why would he pass on the chance to have a go at Shatner with his great sense of humor ?
Shatner should just accept the fact that he was not friendly and nice to his co-stars all those years ago and humbly apologise for being an a-hole ... but nope, Shatner would carry on to bash back on them for being not as important and famous as he was .... why would you support a celebrity being so unapologetic for being an ego head and a meanie ?
@@88feji I read that too. The secondary cast felt Shatner hogged the spotlight too much. To that I say BS. Captain Kirk WAS the show. The role made James T Kirk larger than life. He was the total representation of a Star Fleet captain that every actor that has played a starship captain, or in the case of Sisko an outpost commander, has emulated. Picard, Sisko, Janeway, Archer and Pike are meant to be the swaggering confident leader of a crew of souls facing the perils of interstellar space. Star Trek never would have become the massive franchise with out Shatner’s Kirk. Imagine the actor playing Harry Kim complaining that Kate Mulgrew was hogging the center as Janeway. The best response to the others is, “You played your roles well. Your characters are memorable. Now sit down.”
@@88feji no brainwashing involved. The evidence is there. Shatner never mentions Takei unless Takei shoots first. I'm not saying Shatner doesn't have a huge ego and wasn;t blah blah blah, only that Takei brings up Shatner whenever he needs some press. Takei is so far below Shatner's interest. And not for anything, half of Takei's complaints are ridiculous. Takei was a part time employee Shatner worked with on and off for three years, then did a few movies with a decade after that. He hardly knew Takei, by his own admission. And to this day he probably wishes they had NEVER met because Takei won't leave him the hell in peace. 60's TV was set up to be a certain way. The star and then everyone else. Shatner had enough to worry about when Nimoy took his popularity, the last thing on his mind was probably George takei.
Shatner has no reason to have a beef with Takei- Takei wanted to be revelant. Takei has never been able to let this go. I thought at first it was Shatner, but over time, Takei keeps yapping about something that happened 50 years ago.
It's sad when the show is all about peace... The cast didn't all get on and some won't let go of a grudge
It’s human nature. Least they ain’t child molesters. Just flawed people like you and me.
In a way, an actors best work comes from being the opposite of what they are. Now that doesn’t mean that the person they are in real life is evil or anything. Just means that most are just assholes who you’d like to square up with. Nothing more.
There's no feud. There never has been. Takei bitches about Shatner, usually when he has something to promote, and Shatner doesn't give a shit about Takei, apart from the occasional clapback. I started out sympathetic to Takei but his shtick has gotten old and has clearly been overplayed. Almost Shatner is "Bill", not "Will".
Exactly, I remember Shatner saying in an interview that he didn't really know about the beef until the internet was getting bigger, George started going on a Shatner bashing tour around the time that he was doing Boston Legal and George had nothing else going on.
I agree. The fact that Takei is still mad about this thirty years after the last film they made together doesn't make it look better for him either. Unlike later Trek shows, which were ensemble cast shows, TOS was built, like most shows of its era, around a star character (Kirk). Spock and McCoy were of almost equal status, but Kirk was the star. Roddenberry himself said so. As a result, Shatner, Leonard Nimoy and DeForrest Kelley got far more screen time than the others.
I think Takei is really being quite petty about all this, and another story, that Walter Koenig tells, really illustrates this aspect of Takei's character. Koenig said that he didn't find out until decades later, when they were making the movies, that Takei resented him for Chekov replacing Sulu in parts of several episodes. One of them was "The Gamesters of Triskelion," where Kirk, Uhura, and Chekov are kidnapped by a trio of aliens to fight gladiatorial combats for their entertainment. The original script had Kirk, Uhura, and _Sulu,_ being taken to that planet. Well, Takei had gone off, by his own choice, to costar in "The Green Berets" with John Wayne, which went over schedule, and Takei was thus unavailable for a couple of months. What the hell did he _expect_ the producers of Star Trek to do? They had a production schedule to meet too. Were they to put everything on hold, and inconvenience the whole rest of the cast, the crew, the producers, the studio, and the network, until Takei could get back? After _he_ was the one who _chose_ to go off, do something else, and be unavailable? The most famous saying in entertainment is "the show must go on," but apparently Takei never heard it, or thinks it shouldn't apply to him. Him blaming Koenig for this is not only petty, it's irrational.
Billy Blackburn was a stand in regular on the bridge. He's the guy who shot all those wonderful Behind the scenes videos for us to enjoy. He had nothing but praise for Bill Shatner. During the first season Billy was blonde guy on the bridge in the helmsman seat. I recall it being Takei that would always denigrate Shatner not the other way around. Shatner said he didn't know the minor cast because the series was about the three or four main cast and the guest stars. The minor cast was there for maybe a day a week of shooting. How many of you know ALL your co-workers well? Takei has been speaking out on his hatred for Bill to anyone who would interview him for many decades and Takei's"Wedding" was in 2008. Bill said once in a comicon stage interview that 'would you go to a wedding for a man you knew didn't like you especially if you weren't invited?' And Takei at one point did admit he didn't invite Bill. Later recanted when that info didn't serve him well. Also keep in mind as to Takei's character, He hated Walter Koenig the first few episodes because he felt Koenig was a threat to Takei's character in Trek.
Koenig had a much better role on Babylon 5 as Bester. It gave him more range both as a bad guy and a bit of a comedian.
Takei was shooting Green Berets in Georgia and the filming overlapped with ST S2 live action shooting.
Koenig was being brought on to replace Riley and since Takei wasn't there, got a lot of the more interesting character development since the character was more interesting and gimmicky. When Takei got back he was perturbed according to Justman.
Takei had always wanted the development he got in the first few episodes with the Riley character...but Coon's retooling put him in the chair as just a counter and button pusher as he had been in Corbomite.
They didn't want to play the Asian angle for camp so they mostly ignored his heritage...making him just another American. Everyone else got an ethnic or regional stereotype to play to.
My guess is Takei's beef was with Roddenberry, Coon and the directors...but Shatner was the avatar for hating on Gene.
When Roddenberry got the go-ahead for the Animated Series, he brought back a number of his writers to work with the animation crew, but wanted to keep his voice-over actors to a minimum. He got Shatner, Doohan, Barrett and Kelley, but Nimoy refused to do it if they didn't bring in Nichols and Takei. He told Roddenberry, "you wanted to a diverse crew on your television show, but now all you bring in are white actors to do the voice-overs. I won't do it."
So they brought in Nichols and Takei and only then did Nimoy accept to be part of it.
Takei claiming that Shatner fires up the feud to get some air-time is a touch too rich for my taste. The feud, so to speak, is almost entirely driven by Takei, who frankly wouldn't have anywhere near the level of fame if he didn't fire shots at Shatner with predictable regularity. It's what keeps him somewhat relevant.
The truth seems to be that they're both big personalities, but Shatner has the success, the fame, and the love of fans. Takei seems to resent that and has convinced himself that he was somehow on equal footing with Shatner in the original series. Really not the case. He was a part-time cast member, and not one of the primary three stars, Nimoy, Kelley and Shatner.
I agree. I used to like listening to Takei and followed him on Twitter. But it gradually became apparent that he can be quite unpleasant, and watching 'To Be Takei' just confirmed this.
definitely.
Takei NEEDS the feud otherwise he'll be forgotten about. Shatner actually has talent and has had other successes besides TOS, unlike the talentless Takei.
Exactly, takei has many controversies with his bigotry and racism over the years thats been in the news as well hurting his image. the only ppl that follow him are also bigots and haters on twitter. He brings up shatner all the time , shatner could care less about the man and came out recently basically telling takei to fk off, hes old and its pathetic how takei has followed shatner around like an emotional jealous puppy for decades
i'm ok with Shatner not going to the funeral. When you're not liked you dont go to things like that because its about the family. I'm also ok with his filming for the documentary. Shatner came out of the old school era of gorilla filming and acted in some films filmed in the gorilla style.
Shitner is like Trump, he will never show up unless there are cameras or he's being paid to show, respect means nothing to people like them.
Wtf is gorilla style?
Is that like a sixties version of gangnam style?
@@yeldarbarrow3172 its a old form of "outlaw" filming where you dont get clearance, you dont get permits, you run in and you film and you run out.
@@VolkXue I think that would be "guerrilla"?
@@Carl_Frank if you are involved in the film industry you have heard both. There is literally a Gorilla Filmmaking Productions company. It's simply vernacular
I heard Shatner say that he didn’t have any feud with Takei and really didn’t even know him. Shatner said that he would go onto the set do his scene and leave. He says years later, Takei invited him to his wedding and Shatner didn’t attend. Shatner said that he didn’t really know Takei and didn’t know why he was invited. The interviewer said you were invited because you’re Captain Kirk and Shatner responded “exactly.” Takei only had Star Trek as his claim to fame so he has to feud for attention while Shatner had a career after Star Trek and probably never looked back.
What great career did Shatner have after Star Trek? TJ Hooker? Priceline commercials? TJ Hooker is so bad it's funny. Shatner is so over the top in that show. It's hilarious. I did like him as Denny Crane on Boston Legal, however.
... William Shatner didn't do much of anything in the 1970s. The reboot of Star Trek with the S.T. movies in 1980s put him back at the top. The S.T. franchise salvaged his career.
.. Star Trek made both George Takei and William Shatner. Star Trek got both of them where they are.
I've heard this as well. It would be pretty weird to be invited to a wedding for someone you worked with years ago. Especially this situation where you have to suspect that it's just for the publicity.
Regardless, I think this take on the whole thing is most likely what happened.
@@Bamruff62 Schmuck, look up his resume! Iv'e read Nimoy's, Shatner's Takei's and Nichol's autobiographies....read before you write!
The number one issue seems to be that Shatner promoted the idea of the 'Big 3' on Star Trek, which cut down the time the others were involved in scenes...not the sort of thing that is going to make you love your captain...
Takei was a movie character actor in the 60s. Did pretty well. His TZ episode was very strong, but the episode was controversial so Serling and Cayuga Prod never showed it in rerun or syndication till very recently.
By 1975 his only work was Star Trek retrospectives, appearances and the hope that Phase 2 would happen.
Shatner after 1969 was totally broke, living in a camper shell and an old pickup, doing game shows and guest shots on forgettable shows. He then got TJ Hooker and was on top again.
Takei wanted a captain Sulu series in the 80s with a pitch script by Marc Zicree, but the producers really weren't interested. Such is the life of the thespian.
Get your facts straight or don't write anything! Shatner was broke because of a divorce that cleaned him out, not because of a bad career!!!! Shatner did stage work long before Star Trek and was on Broadway frequently (World of Suzie Wong for one). Look up his resume...it's extensive.
Shatner did movies also in the 70s tj hooker came after star trek the motion picture
@@Duck_Dodgers yes he won an academy award for "The Devil's Rain" if I recall.
The correct expression is I couldnt care less.
'I could care less' mskes no sense.
'I could care less' does make sense if for example you care 25% about something and you want to lower that care investment to 20%. Then you would say you COULD care less.
Whereas saying 'I couldn't care less' means you're at pretty much zero and there's no lower to go.
It's always sad when the TV characters treat each other better than the actors who play them.
I remember Scotty, James Doohan, it might've been when Howard Stern was still on WNBC or maybe right after he had Doohan on and when Stern mentioned Shatner, Scotty's voice went up a couple of octaves and he started griping, "My wife told me that I could only do this interview if Shatner's name wasn't mentioned. 😂😂😂 that's pretty funny "My wife won't let me talk about him because my blood pressure goes thru the roof. LMFAO!!!
Feud? This is entirely made up by Takei, who somehow got it into his ego that he was one of the main stars of Star Trek. He wasn't.
Takei did a youtube startrek voyages episode ' world enough & time'. Did a twilight zone episode, did a john wsyne vietnam movie that conflicted his tos time. He did a tv series ' green hornet. In tos 2nd pilot, sulu listed as a 'physicist'. If writers wrote more intelligent material for his character, he'd have more success. It's a competitive world we live in.
I rather enjoyed New Voyages. He and Koenig both had episodes. Frankly, I think the fan productions (New Voyages/Phase II, and later, "Star Trek Continues") were and are superior in many ways to the official CBS/Paramount shows being produced today.
They had heart!
A while ago i saw a youtube movie from 1990s promoting a startrek videogame. Premise was ' lower decks' style with Bill, George, Walter & a group of youngsters.
Say what you will, but something tells me this is more on George than Shatner. All of those "3rd tier" actors(Doohan, Takei, Nichols, Koenig) wouldn't have had much of a career if it weren't for Shatner, Nimoy and Star Trek.
Takei was a member of the supporting cast and Shatner was the lead actor. It looks like so much jealousy on Takei's part.
Watching the show as a kid Sulu and Checkov were very important characters, as they actually controlled the Enterprise.
Nichele Nichols wanted to leave because she wanted to return to doing theatre. It had nothing to do with Shatner. The story about her meeting MLK is correct.
As far as the flack for not going to Nimoy's funeral, Shatner is correct; everyone grieves in their own way. I didn't go to my grandfathers funeral and if I had the chance, I'd rather not have gone to my father's funeral, either. My last memories of the people I love shouldn't have to be a hole in the ground and a name in a stone.
I would much rather be there until the very end while we are still together than to be the one left alive with the memory of the dead instead of the memory of ones life lived.
Likewise, I'd prefer, when my day comes, for my loved one's to have the courage and love, to be there for me until my last breath, and celebrate my life while skipping the funeral.
I would rather you remembered my face instead of my name carved in stone.
We dont reside where we decay. We remain in your hearts and minds where we can visit you any time.
It was Takei who started up with Shatner, not the other way round. I'm sure Shatner wasn't easy to deal with, but at this juncture, enough is enough.
Takei checked into a hotel where I used to work. He was irritated that nobody recognized him, asking the front desk clerk “Don’t you know who I am”?
That really is gross 🤮🤮
George never got over the fact that Bill had a career and he didnt
Who knew Martin Luther king was a Trekkie .
Makes perfect sense that he would be. Remember 'I have a dream'? Star Trek embodied that dream.
I never liked that there was bad blood between the cast members cause the original Star Trek has always been my favorite out of all the space shows. I just hope they can " All live long and prosper " 🖖
Everytime I have heard Shatner talk about George, it was always nice, not much to say, doesn't know why, and that's that. - Toronto, Canada.
OMG - the feud started LONG before the Takei wedding, like decades before.
It's "I COULDN'T care less"!!!!! I really wish people would get this right. it's so annoying.
I think they’re both strong personalities who process emotion and reactions in different ways. I can definitely see some of myself in both of them. George clearly wears his heart on his sleeve, to a fault, and definitely holds grudges, to a fault. Bill can be aloof in attempts to avoid what he probably sees as a worse outcome; he’ll make a joke or brush something off instead of jump into what he might anticipate as a conflict. There’s certain personalities who will always naturally have a difficult time finding common ground, and anything that ever goes wrong is going to be wrong x10.
The problem is George never figured out that it takes two to have a feud and he hardly innocent in all this. I meet Shatner a few times and he can be an erotically jerk although i suspect this is due to need for attention he was missing when younger. It's also not all he is and remember on the set of Tekwar where he went at someone slighting George because he gay. There both more than people see on the surface and to be honest George kept this going far more then Shanter has. George went after Shanter online for no good reason. Of course Bill doesn't help matters by responding so in effect it's two kids calling each other names🙄
Takai was always a preening primadona, whereas Shatner was (is) a real man's man. That's why he was the Captain! BTW: Aside from the miscommunication over the funeral of Nimoy, it was well known that Nimoy and Shatner were good friends.
These two guys are now old men and time isn't on their side and its time too bury the hatchet and put the past behind them Life's too short .
Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger buried the hatchet. But they were men.
You can't with gay people.
It’s really sad. Sulu is such a beautiful character. Strong, compassionate and honorable. Unfortunately the man who gave us Sulu has held onto a bit of envy for way too long. Something Sulu would’ve said was a complete waste of time. But George just can’t let go. Just imagine how his life would be different if he’d been mature enough to be part of Shatner’s journey instead of whining at every turn.
Exactly. This clip is clearly trying to paint Takei out to be the victim. Where i have many testimonies. From many many fans who attend his conventions and appairently they are nothing but negative. Whereas Shattner's are more positive and have a bigger turnout. And it appears that Takei has always been jealous of Shattner's success.
@@bumslayer76 everytime shatner is in the news, Takei has something insulting to say about Shatner. He keeps this feud alive, not Shatner. Takei thought he should have been the star of Star Trek with his gayness out in front.
@@3dartistguy I know it's sad. And what is even sadder is that. He is being coached on his angry left wing views and told to be bitter and angry. By people who actually are just using him to advance thier Gay agenda and really don't give a crap about him. And he is actually a very tallented actor. But his talent is being wasted on his anger and bitterness.
It's just the way a gay acts when they aren't center of attention.
Well George Takei is a FA…..!
Nimoy had nothing but good things to say about Bill. Shatner was an amazing televisionactor, who lit up the screen in every role he had. Perfectly believable with great subtlety in every part he played. Leonard did a brilliant job, and highlights the hard work he put in behind the scenes to create the Spock myth in his book I Am Spock. MLK liked pretty girls. It' ot surprising that he spoke to Nichelle.
After over 40yrs of EVERY main co-star gripes about Shatner, it is obvious he was emotionally immature, scene-stealing, jealous of co-stars' getting attention, and an overall fragile BRAT to work with. But irregardless whatever conflicts behind-the-scenes, the chemistry on film made Star Trek a juggernaut franchise.
My favorite character in the 60s was Dr. "Bones" McCoy, then Spock, then Captain Kirk.
Irregardless is not a word.
Based on consistent accounts from fellow cast members of Shatner's professional behavior on a set, I imagine I wouldn't want to work with him if I were an actor. But as a viewer, you gotta love him. Bill Shatner is hilarious.
You know, I've never really cared about celebrity feuds. I enjoy the show and that's it. Whining is just not something I have patience for.
I love TOS...But at the end of the day, they are humans with issues like all of us..Whether it's internal or external, we all have our demons..And no matter how badly we want things to be 'perfect' sometime it's not. But when they were all on screen for us to enjoy, they were GREAT..
Spock was always my favourite character in the whole Star Trek universe. Kirk was entertaining but never a favourite for me.
Takei’s people should tell interviewers to stop asking him about his feud with Shatner. The man is highly respected for his contribution to the AAPI community but talking about this feud for so long makes him look so petty.
Because he is petty.
Never have I lost so much respect for an actor. I used to love Takei...Now I find him insufferable. Just another past his prime actor trying to start a feud. His social media proves as much (which he's admitted to paying ghost writers to run, btw). He's the has-been constantly trying to stay relevant at all costs. Kudos to Shatner for not stooping to his level.
Georgie is right to be jealous, Shatner is and has always been da man. 😎
You mean, "I couldn't care less." Saying you could care less means you care to a certain degree.
There is no feud if it only goes in one direction. It's Takei that has a problem with Shatner. It's not Shatner's problem.
A while ago, I believe Bill did say to George (and the remaining TOS actors) to end whatever bickering, differences that existed. Unfortunately, it appears ego outweighs pleas appealed.
Takei invited Bill to his Wedding. Who does that? They didn't know each other out of Trek
Actually, if one thinks about it, they were family, and this happens in families. Doesn't mean you stop loving each other, ever!!!
George Takei and William Shatner. Hmmm. I can’t, on good conscience, call this relationship a feud or a rivalry. I call this a spat that became bitter. I give George credit for burying the hatchet on his own end. There comes a time when you become too old to remain eternal adversaries.
William and Leonard. I find it interesting that these two both appeared on an episode of The Man From U.N.C.L.E. called The Strigas Affair.
Both men were in episodes of The Outer Limits.
And both appeared on T.J. Hooker.
William and Nichelle. When he was talking about writing a book about his time on Star Trek. Nichelle told him that was the reason why she couldn’t stand him despite all that they went through.
I think the one unspoken dispute was with James Doohan. As Scotty, he was as important to the cast as Kirk, Spock and Dr. McCoy. He wanted to be paid the same as William and Leonard.
William and Walter. Walter took the bull by the horns and rolled with it. Respect.
After three seasons on television and the big screen adaptations, one would assume that they are a family. Well, like any family, dysfunction will eventually surface somewhere during that time. I was in the theater in junior college and it occurs there because of many factors like the the casting(some actors are favored than others to play certain roles that after one production, that same actor is chosen for another leading role).
Star Trek provided a future in which all differences are put aside and alliances are formed to explore outer space. Today, the only thing that was utilized from Star Trek was some of the technology.
We, as human beings, have a long way to go.
Shatner vs. Takei is probably the most one-sided feud I've ever seen. Sometimes it seems Shatner isn't even aware he's IN one, with most of it coming from Takei.
LOL, was this video made by a Takei fanboy? The truth is that George has been bashing Bill for years especially when the internet was getting bigger and Shatner was doing Boston Legal at the time. Maybe Bill could be too cocky but the feud was pretty one sided and it seemed like George was looking for the attention.
While he can be a pillock at times, in all these years William Shatner has never bad mouthed George Takei. This fact alone speaks more loudly about his character than anything else,
Shatner is in no way a bad person but he is a victim of his own ego I think. He doesn't purposefully go out to upset people but has on too many occasions been so wrapped up in his own purposes that he unintentionally rubs people up the wrong way. People like Doohan and Takei were/are strong minded personalities and had little tolerance for Shatner's behaviour. Miscommunication has seemingly had a lot to do with problems between Shatner and fellow Trek actors, especially between Shatner, Doohan and Takei and sadly Nimoy at the end. Funny thing is, when Shatner is not the focus of a TV episode/movie his ego seemingly drops away and he is often well liked by those he works with. Shatner has had great relationships with many of his fellow actors like Patrick Stewart and James Spader.
His fellow cast members seemed to adore him on T.J. Hooker, too. Shatner has always been a notably professional workhorse since he was a kid actor on French radio in Montreal.
@@ddburrows6419 I think Shatner is no angel and sometimes lacks tact but Takei is quite a toxic person himself, and a hypocrite.
Given his high profile and notoriety, I find it difficult to believe that Shatner has to "stir up" publicity for anything. Over the years what I've seen is Takei taking shots at Shatner while the latter seems to be handling it quite gracefully, while occasionally pointing out how Takei has been the aggressor. This is just a Shatner hit piece.
I really liked Galaxy Quest. It was a perfect satire of Star Trek. Not only the show but the relationship between the crew/cast as well.
William shatner was the star of the show and leonard Nimoy the co star. The other characters on the show was built on this fact. Shatner was only protecting his career as it should be. Watch the show, they all get to shine at one time or another. Would anyone change anything about the original series? Its pretty perfect.
Its such a shame that so many folks tend to hold grudges that have absolutely no value. Ego will be the downfall of any relationship unless those involved realize its just that, ego and not anything truly important.
I think many of us are over it as well, just grow up Takei and forgive.
It's not hard, give it a try.
I loved William Shatner as Captain James T. Kirk. I really had no idea he was horrible to his some of his co-stars. Hearing that kind of stuff about other actors, I gave up celebrity worship years ago. Having been told wake up they are nothing like what I see in movies or on tv.
I just want my best friends to be friends again, and save the galaxy one more time.
Can't wait till dementia sets in and I can watch Star Trek for the first time all over again.
Not everyone deals with loss well, and if Mr. Shatner truly felt strong feelings towards Mr. Nemoy, the funeral may not have bern the best for him.
William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy were almost exactly the same age, meaning that Shatner was about to turn 84 years old when Nimoy passed away. I don't blame any 84 year old person for attending or not attending any sort of event. Hell, his knees might have been bothering him that day.
I think Leonard was actually smarter than Bill overall in real life. Bill getting jealous and doing petty things when he could have just enjoyed the ride.
In the book, Star Trek The Inside Story, there,s an excerpt of dialogue were Gene Roddenberry called both Bill & Leanord into his office to discuss the question of who,s the star. Gene explains in front of both actors, that Bill is the star of the show, to which Leonard Nimoy got up and left the room.
The simple and plain fact that this video even exists is that they were all truly a family. People who love and respect each other will have disagreements! God bless you all for coming into our lives.
Takei sounds jealous that Shatner was a way bigger star than he ever was or will be! If you aren't a Trek fan you probably don't even know who Takai is??
The saying is " I could NOT care less". If he could care less then he cares. Well, I suppose he does since everything Shatner does overshadows his work. I like them both and wish they wouldn't worry so much about things that happened so far back few are even that old to remember. Now there's only three of them with Robert Koenig.
I recall Shatner hiding the Nimoy bike was a prank not some petty jealousy thing. That the poster's perception I think. The story about not speaking before Nimoy's passing was possibly not wanting anyone to see his decline from cancer. Even his son was excluded except just before death. Nobody saw Nimoy for 5 years isn't that right? I actually met him in 2010 during a Comicon event. I am so lucky to have done that. Met Brent Spiner as well. Spiner was the one that hated being filmed as he himself said to the guy in front of me "I don't want to star in your little film or video." Nimoy didn't care that I filmed him. Didn't even care at all I only asked him about Shatner. Very nice man, no ego there. See for yourself===> czcams.com/video/oJe-w1WPU7E/video.html
Shatners behaviour to Leslie Crusher sums up Shatners narcissism
JESUS SAYS, FORGIVE ONE ANOTHER. sound advice.
George Takei he’s very truth about William Shatner about the past his career, I could tell he’s very brave guy and strong🖖
Unlike Shatner, Takei is a bitter old man.
" I could care less " brilliant
We also have the account from an actor from the newer Star Trek series, Wil Wheaton, who confirmed that Shatner has a massive ego and behaves like an a-hole.
A still photographer introduced Shatner to Wil Wheaton on the set of Star Trek V. When that movie was being filmed near the set of the Next Generation TV series.
"Bill, this is Wil Wheaton" the photographer said. "He’s part of the cast of The Next Generation, and he’d like to meet you.”
Shatner looked at me for a long time.
“So, you’re the kid on that show?” He seemed annoyed.
My throat and mouth were dry, and my palms were sweating. My heart pounded in my ears, as I answered. “Uh, yes, sir. My name’s Wil.”
He continued to look at me. I carefully wiped my hand on the hip of my spacesuit, and extended it. “Nice to meet you,” I said.
He didn’t take my hand.
“What is that, your spacesuit?” He said, and made a sound that was somewhere between a laugh and a cough.
“Oh? This? Yeah. It’s not as cool as yours, but it’s what they tell me to wear.” I put my hand down. I really wanted to leave. I felt a little light headed. Why wouldn’t Captain Kirk shake my hand? And why didn’t he like my spacesuit? Could he see the fake muscles (underneath)? Maybe he didn’t like the color. I became hyper-aware of the spandex, clinging to my body, and longed for the comfort of my fleece jacket.
“Well?” He asked.
Oh no. He’d asked me a question, and I’d missed it.
“Excuse me?” I replied.
“I said, what do you do over there?” he asked. There was a challenge in his voice.
“Oh, uh, well, I’m an acting ensign, and I sometimes pilot the ship.” Maybe he’d be impressed that I’d already logged several hours at the helm of the Enterprise D, all before the age of 16.
“Well, I’d never let a kid come onto my bridge.” He said, and walked away.
I bit my lip, and turned to say good-bye to the still photographer who had made the introduction, but he had vanished as well.
I walked back to my own stage with my head down, avoiding eye contact the entire way. When I got to the entrance, I found Mandy, and asked her to unzip my costume, so I could put my fleece back on.
As she unzipped the back, she said, “did you get to meet William Shatner?”
“Yeah.” I didn’t want to let on that I was upset.
“What’s wrong?” she asked, as she handed me my fleece jacket. There was concern in her eyes.
“Well . . .” I hesitated. Saying it out loud would make it real. “He was a dick to me.”
Her eyes widened, and she gasped. “What?! Why? What happened?!”
I fought back tears, and recounted our introduction.
“What an asshole!” She said, “Oh, Wil, I am so sorry!”
I walked to the makeup trailer, taking great pains to look at the ground, the walls, the sky . . . anything that would keep my head turned away from the Star Trek V stage.
I sat in the chair, and my makeup artist, Jana, began to touch me up. “I heard about what Shatner did to you.” she said. “Fuck him. He’s a jerk, and has been for years. He’s probably just jealous that you’re younger, better looking, and more famous than he is.”
I sighed. I didn’t want him to be a jerk, and I didn’t think that he was jealous of anything. I was certain that I’d done something wrong.
“I guess so.” I said, as noncommittally as I could.
She put down her makeup sponge, and turned the chair away from the mirror, so I was facing her. She looked me in the eye, and said, “Don’t let him upset you, Wil. He’s not worth it.”
“Okay,” I lied. I knew I was going to be upset about this for a long time.
(After filming a scene) I was on my way back to my trailer, the DGA trainee stopped me. “Gene Roddenberry would like you to call his office, Wil.”
“Okay.”
I changed direction, and walked to the stage phone. My heart began to beat hard in my chest. Had Gene heard too? WILLIAM FUCKING SHATNER had known Gene for over 20 years . . . if Gene knew that I’d upset him, maybe Gene would be upset at me, too!
I dialed Gene’s office, and told his secretary that I was returning Gene’s call.
“He’s expecting your call. Just a second, Wil.” There were two clicks, and Gene’s soft, gentle, friendly voice was in my ear.
“Hi Wil, how are you?”
“I’m okay. How are you?”
“Fine, fine. I understand that you had some words with Bill Shatner today.”
Oh my god. Was he going to be mad at me?
“Uh . . . yeah . . .” I said.
“Wil, Bill Shatner is an ass, don’t you worry about him, okay? I am proud to have you on my show. Don’t you ever forget that.”
Did Gene just call WILLIAM FUCKING SHATNER an ass? And then he said that he was proud of me?
“Gosh, Gene, thanks,” was the best I could do.
^^^^ There you go... stop blaming Takei, Nimoy or anyone else for Shatner being an ass.
Wheaton is a loon! Has real mental issues.
I don’t discount what you said but I’ve heard will Wheaton is to when he appeared on big bang theory
aspiring screenwriter?
That is 80% of some of the performers in show business ways of behaving.
@@williecrooks3636 And its worth putting on blast when it happens.
So that people stop seeing celebs as role models worth imitating.
The first thing. I think Bill said who would minister the ceremony, the Horta from Devil in the Dark? See, he thought everyone there shouldn't be from Star Trek, so he panned the idea instinctively. Naturally Sulu was not amused.
George he’s telling the truth about winning chapter. He’s very brave man.
It's "I could NOT care less". If he could care less, he still cares.
"Koenig" is pronunced "Kay-nig", not "Ko-nig." Do some research.
Actually, the "oe" is the variation of "ö" used in languages that lack the umlaut (so König becomes Koenig), and is pronounced with a vowel sound that doesn't even exist in English. English speakers _sometimes_ choose to use "Kay-nig" which phonetically is a _little_ closer to the original German pronunciation, and this is what Walter Koenig does. However they equally often choose to pronounce it how it looks to an English speaker. I have a colleague at work who does this; he pronounces his name "Ko-nig." In the 1970s sci-fi series "Space: 1999" they made the show's hero, Commander John Koenig (and all the other characters on the show) pronounce his name "Ko-nig" as well. This is not "wrong" it's just how they prefer it, and since neither pronunciation is correct in the original German, it's up to the wearer of the name. Walter Koenig clearly prefers "Kay-nig" -- or that's just how his family have always pronounced it since they assimilated to American culture and adopted English. They might have gone the other way, and that would be fine too.
I can't do it right now. But my assistant will do it first thing Monday.
there is something wrong with a language when :"i could care less" and "i could NOT care less" mean the same thing!
I think that Nichelle wanting to leave the show after season one had less to do with Shatner and more to do with being in a love triangle with Gene Roddenberry and Majel Barret.
From what I’ve heard, being in that love triangle was why she wanted to leave. Not because of Shatner.
@@blockmasterscott Read her autobiography. She talked a lot about her intimate relationship with Roddenberry.
@@cherylresnick-cortes8022 Wow, I never knew she had an autobiography. Thanks!
@@blockmasterscott Enjoy!!
@@blockmasterscott The title is Beyond Uhura.
Takei strikes me as egging on these tensions... Shatner has his faults, but he seems to want to go on and forget about it all.
Sulu won't have anything left to talk about now then.
You could care less? Then you at least care a little. Or do you mean you couldn't care less? Which would mean you don't care at all.
Takei is just mad Shatner wouldn't blow him.
If George stops talking about Shatner he won't have much to say. Seems like dissing on Shatner is his favorite pasttime, lol
Good for George for letting that baggage go. It can't be great to have that anger pent up inside for so long. And as for Nimoy's funeral, I've read that Shatner's daughter attended in his stead. I'm guessing Shatner was tired from his trip when he returned to LA and was unable to attend. I would like to believe that he would have gone to the funeral if he hadn't had the other engagement.
Takei thinks that North Carolina blueberries are superior to Michigan blueberries. How crazy is THAT?!?
“I have been, and always will be, your friend.” Mr. Spock, Leonard Nimoy.