DAS Audio Event 218A Review - 2 Years Of Use
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- čas přidán 18. 01. 2019
- Here's my review of the DAS Audio Event 218A. It's an awesome sub for larger shows.
Also I misspoke in the video 2 subs for every 4 tops.
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Nice honest video. I have found myself buying gear just to cover a couple of shows....but I am certainly trying to get to that niche market of 300-1000 people here in the south. I will have to cyberstalk you and see if you have any videos of these things rocking out.
I've probably got a few pics of them on our Facebook page or my personal page but I don't think I have any videos of them in action. I will say you can definitely do 1,000 people outdoors with four of these center clustered. The last show big show I did with them was Dokken and Lita Ford.
I really appreciate the amount detail you go into, can you do a comparison on ARTEC-S15A-230 vs other 15” subs like the FBT SUBLINE 115SA , RCF 905AS II etc, hardly any info on some of these.
Love the ratchet strap tip!
good call! everyone always wants to scale up, but businesswise it doesn't always make sense
My problem is I hate to say no to a gig. It might hurt a bit the next time I get a call for a big show but I think in the end I'll be happier sticking to my non-tech rider events.
looking to upgrade my system and start supplying sound for DJ shows and live music... heard a DAS system that was on a roof in Miami for a DJ and the sound was awesome.. it wasn't a powered setup do you prefer passive over powered to control the sound more... just like the convenience of powered where you just need to run speaker wires to the system and be done with it
I prefer powered systems. Not just because the built in amp is designed to be used with the speaker but because of advanced DSP and system tuning that goes into the speaker before you even power it on.
Nice video review. What do you think about D.A.S Audio Vantec 218A Dual 18" Class-D Powered Subwoofer, i'm thinking of buying for DJ do you think is good sub
I've owned both the Vantec 18A and 218A. Two 18A's will outperform a 218A. I think because cabinet volume per driver is greater on the 18A. They are pretty good subs. They struggle a bit on the really low notes. So does the Event 218A. All three cabinets use the same drivers and I tend to think they are geared a little more towards live sound. As of now the Yamaha DXS18XLF is the sub I recommend. It gets low, gets loud and sounds good doing it. It's what I swapped to after selling my DAS subs and I don't regret the purchase at all.
@@TheAngrySoundTech Thanks a lot. For event for 250-300 people with 2 Ev ETX-15p do you think with 1 Yamaha DXS18XLF it should be okay
I'd say it would depend on the event. Yes one would be enough for a wedding dance or school dance. But if you're trying to do an EDM show or Hip Hop show I'd say no. I've done live sound outdoors with a full band and just two subs center clustered for 300 people before.
Hello currently in a process of changing from Qsc to Das. Question 218A or Das 121a? What do you think about the new Das 121a?
thank you!
Between the Event 218A and Event 121A it really depends on what you plan on doing with it. If you were doing live sound for bands I'd say get the 218A because 18's are smaller and will give you faster response time with the driver for a snappier kick drum. They are a great sub for live sound. I have not heard the 121A but I'd say that's going to be for deeper more rumbly bass for DJ's or an EDM show. A 21" driver is bigger and will have a slower response time so it won't be quite as snappy as a dual 18" cabinet but it will hit lower and really give you that bass you can feel. So it really depends on your application.
Love to know more about the das event 212a and 218A 😊
Hi can this compare to the RCF 8006?
whar yamaha subs are you going to now ?? i have 4 dxs15mkii . thinking of getting on 18 for more power
How are the tops 208a? I'm looking at those. Need your feedback pls..compare to KLA ,Paraline PSA1 by Yorkville,
.etc
I had the Event 210A tops so I don't have direct experience with the 208A tops. But I will say the Event series sounds great and is a huge step up from the KLA or Paraline. But with that being said you really need at least 4 per side to make it sound good. There is a coupling effect that happens with multiple boxes. If you plan on only doing one or two boxes per side go with the KLA or Paraline. The Event series is a true line array and should be treated as such.
With what speakers were these replaced with?
Hello I'm from Montana I am in the market for a pair of subs I have 4 Ev etx 18s and 2 qsc ks118 looking for something better louder and hit harder mainly kick drum what do you suggest and do you have any subs for sale or mains
Event 218A vs Vantec 218A - Pascal amplifier in the Vantec, 2×500 W @ 4 ohm vs PowerSoft amplifier in the Event, 2×900 W @ 8 ohm... In your opinion, are the Event 218A $1000 better than the Vantec 218A? They use the same 18LX drivers and stats show that they both have the same SPL and the Vantec actually lists higher RMS. What gives, am I missing something or is the Vantec a better deal?
I owned both at the same time. These two speakers are a perfect example of how a quality amp can make a difference in a sound system. The event series is very noticeably better. If you're doing big shows with event series tops get the matching subs. It just seems like the amp recovers faster and pushes the speakers harder and fuller. It's hard to explain but noticeable.
@@TheAngrySoundTech That makes sense. PowereSoft is pretty much on top, amp-wise, and I hear the response time is super quick. thanks for the reply!
@@TheAngrySoundTech It’s called dapning factor of the amplifier, the higher the dapning factor the faster it will recover and the tighter it will sound, the less dapning factor it sounds more loose and doesn’t recover as fast
What would you suggest for EDM outdoor concerts for 2,500 people?
I am looking for that answer too.:))
I have 4 of these and have not gotten the sound I was looking for compared to when I had the action subs , does the a dsp make a huge difference if so what did you use I'm looking at getting the das 226
I own the Action 218A subs as well and they definitely have a different sound than the Event 218A subs. Both cabinets are rated at 140db of output but the Event subs hit lower than the Action subs. My recommendation would be to go to DAS Audio's site and look in the manual for each sub. Towards the back there will be a frequency response chart so you can compare how the frequency response differs from the Event 218A to the Action 218A. If I remember correctly the Event 218A hits hardest around 60hz while the Action 218A hits hardest around 80hz. This will lead to the Action subs sounding more punchy with a kick drum. But if you EQ the Event sub to boost more of that upper bass and cut some of the lower bass down a bit you should achieve the same punch from the event sub. And it should sound better doing it because of the better drivers and amp in it. I use a DBX DriveRack PA2 to save my EQ presets for my systems. Also I'd recommend using the drivrack's crossover to cut out everything below 40 hz maybe even 45 hz since you like the sound of the Action subs.
@@TheAngrySoundTech thank you for the reply
SHOCKER PRODUCTIONS the 226 is a great processor for these... the company loads presets on it but you can really dial then in... the Angry Sound Tech is right about the settings for more punch if you like Action series. But the Event subs are better built and hit lower.
use the Das processor you will see the difference!
@@TheAngrySoundTech thank you for your insight. Would you recommend having more action subs or less event subs? You can buy two action 218 for the cost of one event 218. Would it be better to buy 6 actions and make a cardioid array or go with 4 events and forgo the cardioid, assuming the actions have that built in.
Hi I have 4 same subs my question is on the DriveRack which is a good set up on crossover from which frequency this subs its going to working properly I hope you can help me thanks
For live bands I run the low crossover from 40hz to 100hz typically. I use the Linkwitz-Riley 24db per octave crossover. I've played with using 40hz to 90hz but I always go back to 100hz. It's what I'm used to. If I'm running sound for a DJ I don't typically cut off the crossover at 40hz because of how low bass drops can go but in live music I prefer to filter out the really low end to clean up the subs a little bit.
Thank you very much you really help me
AUDIOS CERVANTES D.A.S. recommends 24 dB per octave butterworth at 90hz, but for rock, 100 can work well... and for rap shows I take them down to 80 so they have more focus on the low end. I also match. The settings for high pass into the arrays.
What do you think about the QSC now that you had them for awhile
There are times I wish I still had my QSC KLA system. Not enough to buy it again but realistically I should have kept my production business KLA sized and not upgraded to a full line array.
@@TheAngrySoundTech I am thinking about that Soundboks system... and the Denon DJ Prime Go just have a battery system and retire and just do pop-ups... have you heard the Soundbok system
I've heard of Soundboks but I've never used it or heard it. I am with you on battery powered tho! I'm working on revamping my DJ set up and the goal is smaller, lighter and quicker to set up. Battery powered on a few items is part of my strategy.
@@TheAngrySoundTech yeah from videos i've seen the SB are very loud and claim 126db but I think you still need some deep humm from a nice sub... but don't know of a battery one.. I have seen those bricks you can buy that start a car and you can run a speaker from it but only for about 2 hours and maybe less with just bass coming through
What tops do you recommend with these?
These subs were designed for use with the Event series line array tops. If you're not going to be using the Event series line array tops there are better subs to spend your money on.
@@TheAngrySoundTechwhat subs are better for the money? I don't have das tops, but looking for subs for my RCF rig
This vs yorkville ls801 or es18?
I have never used or heard a Yorkville speaker. So I can't give an opinion. I tried to become a dealer once so I could get some of their stuff in to review. Talked to them at a trade show and they seemed super nice. But they referred me to my local rep and he didn't seem to give two shits if I became a dealer or not. Never returned any of my phone calls or emails.
@@TheAngrySoundTechjust.became a Yorkville dealer- took some work but the headquarters in Canada took care of me. I have their dual 21" sub, 15" tapped horn sub, and their entry level 12" powered speaker. So far I'm underwhelmed with the subs, but the top is crazy good. I actually can't believe how good the top is and how well it is built even as their Chinese import box. Unfortunately, the dual 21 and tapped 15 subs didn't keep up with their top. It was weird. Maybe something odd is happening with my in warehouse test.
@@L3DRocksare you talking about the SA221S Synergy Array subs?
@@djgazaaka5000 yes
Corporations have killed the small sound companies in my area. Just can't afford to have enough pa and back line to compete.
It's tough... The main thing that keeps us going is that we also have a DJ division as well as the live sound division. If we didn't have DJ's doing wedding dances and karaoke we'd probably be completely squeezed out of the market. I've been trying to poke the big guys a bit by going after their rental business. I've slowly been gaining market share when it comes to rentals.
@@TheAngrySoundTech Yea I even dj when not playing drums to stay afloat lol. The whole industry has changed so much from when I started.
Wow lol
This against a jbl srx828sp?
The Event series is a step above the SRX series. SRX is more inline with the Vantec series from DAS Audio. I haven't used any speakers in the SRX series so I cannot give a direct comparison. I will note that my main gripe with the SRX series is they use 3" voice coils for their 18" subs whereas everyone else uses 4" voice coils.
@@TheAngrySoundTech you should actually check out the srx series. For me, they are amazing, keep in mind altough the subs only have 3 inch vc, they actually dig deeper and they weight roughly the same. I wouldn't actually compare the srx to the vantec since srx has way more dsp feature then the vantec series. Would love if you can give the srx a try and tell us if it worth the extra money because after i checked (spec sheet wise) they are really simillar
Jbl srx goes to 29hz at -10db
Event 218 goes to 32 at -10db
They roughly have the same weight (65 kg)
Das 140db
Jbl 141db
I know the db peak is just some bs. Thing is the das is 3000usd and based on what i see cannot be connected to the ethernet port to do some programming like eq, delay (altough they probably have delay feature built in)
So if i would buy the das, do you think it is worth an extra 1000usd instead of the 2000usd price for the jbl srx828sp
Sorry for the long comment.
I could probably make a 20 min video discussing the differences but I'll try to jot it out here. The reason SRX should be compared with Vantec is because those are the actual competing series from each company. It's their high end prosumer/music store models and they have similar speakers within each model line. The event series is for production companies. The companion speakers to the Event 218A subs are line array cabinets that you can hang 16 deep per side. You're not going to do an event for 5,000 people with the Vantec or SRX line but you can with the Event series. The event series is tuned for live sound and the components are just better in general. Especially when it comes to the amp. Faster recovery, more power. If you've got a drummer with a double kick and he's going to town on it where it's sounding like a machine gun that's kicking you in the chest. You're going to hear the difference between the Event series and the Vantec or SRX and it's because of the amp. It's going to recover faster and provide more explosive power continuously in demanding situations. So to answer your question. Is the Event series worth the extra money? Well it depends on the situation. DJ Gigs? Wedding Dances? Band shows for 250 people? Stick with the SRX series. 1,000 people and up? Big productions? Quick load in/load out with double stacked rolling dual 18's? Event series is the way to go. They're both good subs but technically were designed with two different purposes in mind. I'll also note that the Event series has very basic processing built in. No time delay, no bluetooth, no eq, etc. Because of what the Event series was designed for it's basically assumed that you'd be using a digital mixing console with them so there are no extra bells and whistles for processing. In fact the Event series line array cabinets don't event have a gain knob or on/off switch. Once you plug them in they are live and that's it.
@@TheAngrySoundTech thanks for the explaination!
@@TheAngrySoundTech You actually answered my previous question. Thank you. You said you upgraded to Yamaha. What did you get?
These subs really don’t hit hard honestly just go with das lx 218a sub or the das 218 ux sub