Stripped drain plug repair: Time-sert not Helicoil!

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  • čas přidán 10. 05. 2020
  • This is the best way to repair a stripped drain plug! I haven't found a better way.
    Time-sert M12x1.5 for this 2015 KTM50sx amzn.to/2Lc6daa
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Komentáře • 91

  • @Comm0ut
    @Comm0ut Před rokem

    Strongly agree on the Time-Sert and if you want even more rotation resistance keyed inserts are available.

  • @johnboy2727
    @johnboy2727 Před 2 lety +3

    Great video. Just got an 04 RMZ250 cheap because it had some issues. Just realized the oil drain plug hole is stripped. I need to do this.

  • @christiangil4998
    @christiangil4998 Před měsícem

    Thanks really helpful! Going through the same.

  • @abitoffblacksmithing9985
    @abitoffblacksmithing9985 Před 4 lety +2

    Very cool! I have these brackets for a centrifugal tumbler. The bolts go in and out multiple times a day. Eventually they strip out , which it did. And I have eight brackets with 2 bolts each. I believe this is exactly what I need!!
    Thank you for the video!!

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 4 lety +1

      Yes, these should work good for that.

    • @abitoffblacksmithing9985
      @abitoffblacksmithing9985 Před 4 lety

      @@TepcoCycleRepair sometimes things just work out the way it should! We were gonna helicoil it next week ! Thanks again!

  • @vegasromaniac
    @vegasromaniac Před 4 lety

    that is nice , i already bought one , never used it , maybe one day

  • @donalddonaldson7211
    @donalddonaldson7211 Před rokem

    Thanks for this video. I have a 2005 yz125 in rebuilding and while I have the cases apart I’m repairing the stripped bolt. My dad says to helicoil it but I’m looking for the best possible solution and this looks pretty damn good

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před rokem +1

      This is a really repair but it's also expensive. A good heli-coil job will do the trick also. There is also another called E-Z lok which is very good as well.

    • @GabrielSilver-nl6uq
      @GabrielSilver-nl6uq Před 10 měsíci

      Heli coil sucks on the oil drain plug it’s hard getting all the oil out when u need a oil change

  • @inflato
    @inflato Před 2 lety +1

    I did my first one on a small Honda Motorcycle and it worked great. However I pulled a sidecover which exposed the backside of the new threads and I found A LOT of shavings in the case mixed with my grease. And I drilled a hole through a oil filter screen that was a half inch from the case. So at least flush out the cases before adding oil. Thanks for the video.

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 2 lety

      Absolutely, a lot of shavings can be made and always have to be cautious about what's on the other side. I did this on a RMZ250 and had to do a lot of flushing to be comfortable.

    • @rancel3198
      @rancel3198 Před rokem

      @@TepcoCycleRepair how many times do you flush the engine?

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před rokem +1

      @@rancel3198 I flushed it until I couldn't see any shavings coming out. You can use kerosene and strain it after each flush with a paint filter so you just keep using it over and over until it's good.

  • @mtburr
    @mtburr Před 3 lety +1

    Nice video. FYI the "recess/step" in the "top part" you cut starting at 3:30 is called a "counterbore."

  • @howdyimjeff
    @howdyimjeff Před 3 lety

    my oil screen thread is stripped (M20 x 1.5), would I need to take the engine off the chassis?

  • @DaKing522RS
    @DaKing522RS Před rokem

    Are you buy any chance in the Tri-State area? I need this done on my bike.

  • @coryatcosta2714
    @coryatcosta2714 Před 28 dny

    great vid! thank you! any idea of size for 2019 Honda CRF 450L?

  • @enjoythesho1992
    @enjoythesho1992 Před 2 lety +4

    Timeserts are definitely the better choice but if you don't already have a kit they are expensive that's why most people go for the heli core

  • @metricOIL
    @metricOIL Před 2 lety

    What torque are you using with bolt now?? Just tight or still following ft lb specs?

  • @EAGLE_OF_PERSIA
    @EAGLE_OF_PERSIA Před rokem

    Thank you so much! Do we need remove hole engine for this? I got same problem today but inside oil filter bolt under the engine

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před rokem +1

      Not as long as you can get to the hole straight on and flush it afterwards.

    • @EAGLE_OF_PERSIA
      @EAGLE_OF_PERSIA Před rokem

      @@TepcoCycleRepair aaawh thank you. It was good news ❤🙏🏼 have great day buddy!

  • @igotakai5644
    @igotakai5644 Před 2 lety

    Another great vid, thanks! For DR650 would it be M14x1.25?

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes that's the correct size. 14mm x 1.25. Thanks for the comment!

    • @igotakai5644
      @igotakai5644 Před 2 lety

      @@TepcoCycleRepair Thank you!

  • @RICHARDSHORT2
    @RICHARDSHORT2 Před 4 lety

    What size drill bit was used? Thanks in advance

    • @ShersGarage
      @ShersGarage Před 2 lety +2

      One year too late. Drill bit is specific to that kit. Not just a standard bit.

  • @andrewcarter215
    @andrewcarter215 Před 2 lety

    On timeserts website it says, “if using for drain bolt use kit 1215C” rather than kit 1215. Is 1215C the one I should purchase? Or is 1215 the way to go? Thanks!

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 2 lety +1

      The C comes with a tap guide to be sure it stays straight to prevent leaks.

    • @andrewcarter215
      @andrewcarter215 Před 2 lety

      @@TepcoCycleRepair awesome, thanks for the video! Made me feel comfortable enough to save some cash and not go to a shop with it.

  • @M4TT4TT4CK
    @M4TT4TT4CK Před 10 měsíci

    Whats the advantage of a timesert over a helicoil? I stripped one of the drain plugs on my ktm 200, and from now on only plan on using the left side plug with magnet

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 10 měsíci +1

      A time-sert locks into place and is more of a permanent fix for a bolt that will be in and out repeatedly. A helicoil is great for a thread fix for a bolt that stays in place.

  • @lukesmeja4662
    @lukesmeja4662 Před 11 měsíci

    I bought a vstar 650 with a stripped drain i took it to 2 different shops and they said there was nothing they could do cause there was no more threads do you think this will work or should I just try swapping the engine

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 11 měsíci

      As long as you can get the first tap in this will work. If you can't have a good tig welder weld a nut on there, no reason you need to replace the engine for a stripped drain bolt, there are several options. If there is enough room inside the hole go to a car oil change shop and ask for a stripped drain plug rubber plug insert. They strip drain plugs all the time!

  • @eason9115
    @eason9115 Před rokem +1

    On my 13’ crf250r has a weep hole a 1/4” up coming from the side so a time sert would block off that weep hole anyone have any other options? Or helicoil my best bet?

  • @jaimeguzman6148
    @jaimeguzman6148 Před 3 lety +1

    What was the original size of the bolt? Are you supposed to go up a size. I have a oil pan that uses a m14x1.50 bolt but it the pan itself is stripped. Please help

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 3 lety +1

      You don't go up a size. You would get it for the stock size M14X1.50 the drill size and tap will be slightly larger to clean out the stripped threads and make room for the Time-sert.

    • @jaimeguzman6148
      @jaimeguzman6148 Před 3 lety

      @@TepcoCycleRepair thanks man. Appreciate it

    • @niccalicious
      @niccalicious Před 2 lety

      Thankyou guys

    • @diriazi
      @diriazi Před rokem

      @@TepcoCycleRepair Thank you! This was my question as well. My original size was M14 X 1.5 so I would use the TST-1415C kit. Thanks again.

  • @matthewhargroder7187
    @matthewhargroder7187 Před 3 měsíci

    I have a 2022 yz250x with a stripped drain bolt. Thinking about using the time-sert.
    I really don’t want to split the halves if I don’t absolutely need to. Do you think I could install the time-sert and once it’s installed, flush it out from the clutch side like you mentioned in the video?

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yes, I did it on a 2009 RMZ250 flushed the heck out of it and it was just fine. Grease the taps to try to catch as much as you can then flush it out.

    • @matthewhargroder7187
      @matthewhargroder7187 Před 3 měsíci

      @@TepcoCycleRepairthanks for the speedy reply. My drain bolt is a m12x1.5x15.5mm
      I’m concerned with the length of the thread replacement itself. On time-serts website they offer 13.5mm and 16.2mm long. I’m wondering if you could shine some light on which one I should go with.

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@matthewhargroder7187 Ok so your drain bolt may be Long than the case thickness, in any case the end of the time-sert needs to lock into place so i would go with the shorter option. If it's longer than the case it won't be able to secure itself as intended.

  • @mranonymous7713
    @mranonymous7713 Před rokem

    i appreciate the awesome tutorial i recently stripped my oil drain threads on my bike and its been really frustrating but after seeing your vid im gonna by this kit and fix it. BTW i have 2 questions 1 being does this drill out a whole and then inserts the original size of the plug back into the pan. and 2 would be if you were to say how much toque these fittings can take rather then my dogshit 18 ftlb drain plug that i stripped out....anyways thank you so much and i hope to get a reply.

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před rokem

      Yes it will bring it back to the standard size and it will be stronger than your stock threads. Normal torque will be no issue.

    • @mranonymous7713
      @mranonymous7713 Před rokem

      @@TepcoCycleRepair thanks for the confirmation. I have 2 last questions what drill did you use for this bits and I saw that you used a t handle to insert the tap and the time sirt threads. Instead of that t handle can I just use a socket wrench instead?

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před rokem +1

      @@mranonymous7713 The drill bilmis a special bit that comes with the kit, you have to use that drill bit. It has a recess for the timesert to sit in. As far as the tap, whatever you have to send it in straight.

    • @mranonymous7713
      @mranonymous7713 Před rokem +1

      @@TepcoCycleRepair ayyy I just got the money to buy the kit and I saw you reply to someone the other day about getting shaving in the pan which doesn’t sound good at all so I’m just wondering if I can just flush out all the shavings by just running a gallon or two through the fill cap. That’s a good way I’ll use as much oil as needed to save my components from getting destroyed, and I’ll even do a heat short heat cycle and drain it and replace the filter after. Just tell me if I’m being overkill or what you recommend in the case of getting shavings in the pan

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před rokem +1

      @@mranonymous7713 So there is a couple things you can do to reduce the amount of shavings. Put grease on your bits and taps to catch as much as you can. When you are done flush it with kerosene, you can drain it through a paint strainer and reuse it until nothing comes out. Then new filter/oil heat cycle and drain. Remember it's aluminum shavings they are soft and if you miss one or two they will get chewed up and stick to the filter. Get the right size kit they come in different lengths.

  • @daltongammel4072
    @daltongammel4072 Před 2 měsíci

    Would this fix work on a 06 Honda foreman 500?

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 2 měsíci +1

      As long as you can get straight at the plug I don't see why not.

  • @antonyamb2118
    @antonyamb2118 Před 2 lety

    how do i know which kit i need? My stock drain plug in m10 x 1.5mm. do i get that kit?

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, you get the kit for the size bolt you will be using. They also make a deep or shallow, get the shallow for a drain plug.

    • @antonyamb2118
      @antonyamb2118 Před 2 lety

      @@TepcoCycleRepair thanks!

  • @coltandent4599
    @coltandent4599 Před 2 lety

    How do you know which size kit to get I need one for a 2022 ktm 125sx clutch side oil drain hole?

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 2 lety

      You go by the original bolt size, then length based on the wall thickness. Are you talking about the check bolt hole? I don't know of a drain bolt on the right side. I would use a helicoil for the check bolt.

    • @coltandent4599
      @coltandent4599 Před 2 lety

      @@TepcoCycleRepair so on the new 125s there is a the drain plug on the left side(non clutch side) with the magnetic bolt plug then on the left there is another plug, when you change the oil do you only change one?

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 2 lety

      @@coltandent4599 Usually only the left. Unless they made a change I'm not familiar with a right side plug. I haven't worked on a 22 but have access to a few I'll check it out, thanks for the heads up.

    • @donalddonaldson7211
      @donalddonaldson7211 Před rokem

      @@TepcoCycleRepair it sounds like the check bolt, my YZs have them

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před rokem

      @@donalddonaldson7211 The KTM check bolt is on the right side, strips like it was made of butter.

  • @jameswatkins555
    @jameswatkins555 Před rokem

    It's called a countersink tool.

  • @erickennedy3932
    @erickennedy3932 Před 2 lety

    Do u have to sell

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 2 lety

      No I don't, I just got what I needed from a fellow mechanic.

  • @user-pr3nm3jc1v
    @user-pr3nm3jc1v Před měsícem

    Rough way to drill out the thread. The way shown is DIY. There is no guarantee that ALL the debris is flushed out.The sump should be separated from the crank-case.

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před měsícem

      You are correct but this would require a complete engine tear down and case split because there is no sump. This is a two-stroke so this drain plug is only for the gearbox not for the actual engine/crank.

  • @jakeflagg1401
    @jakeflagg1401 Před 11 měsíci

    If ur tap and die why not just use new bolt

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 11 měsíci

      This brings it back to the stock size and is stronger than stock.

  • @007rockford
    @007rockford Před 2 lety

    All good...but $115 for that tool kit doesn't make sense...

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 2 lety

      Yes it's expensive, find someone that has the kit and borrow it for the day.

    • @sscbkr48
      @sscbkr48 Před 7 měsíci

      @@TepcoCycleRepair $115 is a deal! 400 bucks in BC. I've got a stripped SP thread on a ct90. I'll probably take the head to a shop.

  • @Lynchy87
    @Lynchy87 Před 2 lety

    I’m being charged £600 for a new oil pan because I stripped it, Am i being ripped off?

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 2 lety +1

      Well it's part of the case not just an oil pan so not bad.

    • @Lynchy87
      @Lynchy87 Před 2 lety

      @@TepcoCycleRepair now I can sleep I thought I was being scammed lol! Just gotta wait 8 weeks for it to arrive from China for them to change it for me 😞

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 2 lety

      @@Lynchy87 From China? What kind of bike is it?

    • @Lynchy87
      @Lynchy87 Před 2 lety

      @@TepcoCycleRepair its a Sym Orbit 125 Euro 5

    • @user-jy9be8tu6i
      @user-jy9be8tu6i Před 10 měsíci

      @@Lynchy87man that a waste of time you find these kits every where I broke mine yesterday and got fixed in 3days Amazon even has it

  • @yeomansLdote
    @yeomansLdote Před rokem

    Mate you pay for wot you get in my eyes. heli coils always fail these are one time fix

  • @Imwright720
    @Imwright720 Před 2 lety

    After watching you drill I lost all faith in you.

    • @TepcoCycleRepair
      @TepcoCycleRepair  Před 2 lety +1

      Lol, yeah that looked rough with the dead battery. No worries I was watching it closely, it's still holding strong!

    • @erickennedy3932
      @erickennedy3932 Před 2 lety

      @@TepcoCycleRepair I try the link they dont have any right now ...my plug is slack I wrapped it with thread tape but it's not tight