â@@FreshmenSales Don't be misinformed. Veiling was always a thing even before Judaism and Christianity. Even the stone worshipping pagans in mecca veiled too.
Hi! I don't know if it'll help your situation with threats but I recently found out that covering with bandana is as good as covering in veil if you don't have an opportunity to! It doesn't look strange to others but still can do its function, even if id doesn't feel the way it could be. Hope this helps, God bless!
When you get Over the Hill (aka reaching âHagdomâ) you can be as grumpy & frumpy as you desire. đ No one will dare approach you, give âThe Lookâ.
I understand you. I also tried veiling at school, but my classmates misunderstood, and started yelling, "Allahu Akbar!" In the middle of class at me. They basically are Islamophobic rude people.
I'm christian, and I've REALLY been wanting to veil for many, many years now, but I get in trouble with my family every time I do. They usually make some racist comment and tell me I'm likely to get shot if I veil, but I just moved halfway across the country from them, so maybe now is the time to finally veil
I love that âșïž I really want to start doing this and tbh Iâve looked at it on and off for years so I think I just need to be brave and do it â€ïž
That is so cool!! I clicked on your Pic and I love the way you style it. I hope it becomes more normalized. I veil in church and I'm the only person my age I see doing it. I hope others might start to veil too. đđ it is a beautiful tradition that connects us to our ancestors and our Godd and Mother Mary!
I honestly feel such a pull to veil. Once I got married I realized I didnât want to attract attention towards myself like I did when I was dating. I really wanted to feel like only my husband could see my body. Itâs not about shame at all but about keeping something special for my marriage. When I found out Catholics veil and the meaning behind it, I brought it up with my husband and he was very much against it. Heâs discerning whether heâs a Christian or not and is very much I would say indoctrinated by French liberalism so heâs uncomfortable about me wearing a veilâŠ..so I would feel kinda uncomfortable wearing one-this is definitely about shame! Please pray for me ladiesđ
You'd attract more attention to yourself while wearing it. Also, it's just hair and your husband doesn't appreciate whatever you're trying to (supposedly) do for your marriage which is kinda contradictory.
My good friend is VERY convicted that that 1 Corinthians 11 passage is about women being covered by their long hair! But even if you have a covering of cloth in mind, you could use a banana, or Amazon has these cute little elastic triangle things that just look like a little hair accessory but will still serve as a covering. If your husband gets upset about that, tell him it makes you feel sexy (for him) and want to show his authority. If it's a compliment to him it might be hard for him to say no đ if that would upset him though, I would simply defer to his judgment. This is not a salvation issue, and showing humble submission to him will be the heart of that passage. Blessings â€
The Scriptures command to cover while praying and prophesyingâŠthatâs a command, not a liberty. The liberty is in covering outside of that function.
It is wonderful to see Christians everywhere returning to headcovering, despite the fact that in the West, it was suppressed by the feminist movement. Cling to the practices of the early Christians and encourage veiling!
Your genuine love of Christ and the Spirit moving thru you is beautiful! I grew up with strict, yet loving parents that sadly got mixed up with the Bill Gothard/ATI teachings. After several years of 'trying to fit-in and live a godly life' my parents heard the Spirit's voice and left, but the damage had been done with scars and open wounds left on myself and my older siblings. Anything that wasn't approved by ATI/Bill Gothard's teaching was a sin, whether it be short/shorn hair, not wanting my highest calling to be a wife/mother, wearing pants, having "secular" friends, masculine hobbies or skills, wanting to be a paramedic like my aunt (was my idol growing up), liking "worldly" music, anything that didn't fit their twisted theology/ teachings = sin. I was constantly criticized by my peers, adults, even shunned by members of the church for my lifestyle despite both my parents being okay with it. My whole world and who I was was my family (parents & siblings) and the church, that after we left that group and moved to a remote town to start a new life, I felt isolated and like I didn't know who I was anymore. I sttuggled with Scripture and blamed God, as all i saw was more legality and the fear to be a "good christian"; I still believed that there is a God, but any thoughts of relationship with Him were gone. I worked in Emergency Services for almost 10yrs, allowing it to absorb and become my identity, struggled after multiple bad calls where I felt death and trauma had become me, and after awhile death seemed the only way out. Paise God that this was not my end! It took a career ending injury to finally allow me the time to get therapy/counseling, treatment for my newly diagnosed PTSD, and employment where I could be accommodated for my PTSD without fear of being "unfit for duty". I've just recently purchased a non-King James translation of the Bible, receiving spiritual guidance and encouragement from my younger brother, and slowly overcoming the pain of my past. My younger brother (newly ordained Methodist minister) has been a true blessing for me and seeing how he had to struggle/fight everyday, at times calling in tears at how others at theology seminar were doing all they could to prevent his ordination, really struck me that despite all this my brother still wanted to praise and seek relationship with God. The fact he struggled with God showed me that it's okay to question and be angry at times, and to feel confused, but at the end of the day or by dawning of morning my brother would sing praises and ask for God's will to be. This morning I was mindlessly scrolling when some of your short videos popped up and after watching a few subscribed to your channel
Read the Psalms. They helped me learn how to pray and it sounds just like your brother's attitude- God can handle our emotions, but we must bring them to Him humbly and trust that things will work out with Him in the end. Blessings â€
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matterthe covering is not long hair. He writes that women are to veil during prayer and when prophesying. We cannot take off our âlongâ hair when we are not doing these activities and place them back on when we begin to do them. For this reason Paul was referring to a removable fabric that is a sign (Tav) of the relationship between God and Man.
@@92spice18 I agree IF and only IF Paul were saying that there were ONLY two moments when a woman ought to cover. But I don't assume that like some do. I believe Paul was just giving a couple of examples not two strict conditions. The first thing that everyone must understand when talking about this topic is that it DOES NOT say the word âveil âor any other physical headwear, as far as the KJV is concerned. It surely mentions that the womanâs head should be covered, and no one disputes this, but it does not say that it should be covered with a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or any other specific headwear. The verses in question within 1st Corinthians 11 mention the words, cover, covered, uncovered, and covering, but that does not mean we can translate this to mean specifically a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or anything else similar. In fact, it would seem more like an adverb rather than a noun. Nevertheless, the word âcoverâ is often unfortunately interpreted by head covering promoters to mean a veil above all other types of headwear, even if there is no evidence to prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt. To do so would mean that one is trying to read more into the verse than what is actually stated and is not truly seeking an exegesis of the Scriptures. Some have claimed that they are referring to a physical synthetic head covering because the Scriptures seem to indicate that there are two exclusive conditions in order to wear one and that is when a woman is either praying and/or prophesying. But does this interpretation stand up to logic? If we were to believe that under certain conditions a woman ought to wear a physical head covering, then it stands to reason that under OTHER conditions a woman should be able NOT to wear one. For example, if you are going to argue that a woman ought to wear a veil because the Bible claims there are two conditions, then it is logical to presume that any other condition would ALLOW them to be without one, like speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc. Now if a head covering promoter should claim that there are MORE conditions, then they admit that there arenât really âtwoâ conditions thereby nullifying the two-condition argument. The reasoning behind why the âtwo-conditionâ argument is important for veil promoters is because if these words were actual conditions, then it would seem as though the covering were something that can be placed on or taken off. So even though it does not literally or EXPLICITLY say anything about putting on or taking off a veil. Veil promotors form this belief based on what they believe to be IMPLIED and not by a direct statement. Many people like to believe this because they ASSUME that praying and prophesying are two conditions instead of seeing them as mere examples. * Praying and prophesying were meant to be viewed as examples, not conditions⊠Now I can understand how someone can mistakenly conclude praying and prophesying as conditions in verse 5, on the surface, but once you read the rest of the verses in context one cannot reach that conclusion. For example, if the strongest argument is because there were conditions for women to wear veils because of verse 5 then why donât we hear the same thing spoken of about men in verse 4? âEvery man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.â Normally we do not hear the argument that men ought not to have their heads covered exclusively under two conditions as we hear for women as to why they should. I think it is because that would imply that they CAN have their heads covered under other circumstances like the examples I mentioned before as in speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc. But I suspect a veil promoter would not go along with this. Then there is verse 7: âFor a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.â So, there seems to be ANOTHER reason for men not to cover. Therefore, if the reason for men not to cover their heads in this verse is because he is the âimage and glory of God,â then why even mention praying or prophesying in verse 4? Should a man not be covered under ANY condition since verse 7 overrides any supposed conditions? Shouldnât that make you question that perhaps Paul was just giving a couple of examples? Verses 4 and 5 are basically the same except for whom they are directed yet when one hears the arguments by veil promoters it is typically about how verse 5 is conditional for women yet for men in verse 4 it is usually not spoken of. Again, isnât it more likely that Paul was using the words praying and prophesying as examples in both verses? We can also get a sense that Paul was referring to praying and prophesying as examples if we read verse 13 when it only mentions the word praying and NOT prophesying. âJudge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?â If there were only two exclusive conditions, then why would he leave out prophesying? We canât say he got tired in his writing as he mentioned both words in verses 4 and 5. So, what can we say about this? Just that Paul was giving us a couple of examples of how doing something HOLY or GODLY does not give a pleasant appearance if the woman is uncovered, meaning not covered in long hair and the same goes for men when their heads are covered in long hair since that is exactly one is supposed to understand when reading verse 14. * So Is the Covering Long Hair or a Veil? âŠ.. If we examine all the verses from verses 4 to 15 without bias, we should at least agree that at certain points the verses are referring to physical heads and hair. In that case, what we should be asking when mentioning the words âcovered,â âcover,â âuncoveredâ and âcoveringâ is: Are they referring to long or short hair or some kind of foreign object that goes on the head? Some will even say all the above, but if we carefully examine verse 15 we would be getting a clearer picture of what was being referred to in the earlier verses when it mentions these words. âBut if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her FOR a covering." KJV So if the covering is long hair, then the words âcoveredâ or âcoverâ (which are synonymous with âcoveringâ) should be understood as long hair as well. If thatâs true, then to be âuncoveredâ would mean âshort hair.â If so, then we can get a better picture of verse 4 when it says that it is shameful or dishonorable for a man to pray or prophesy with his head âcovered.â Note the similarity of verse 4 to verse 14 thatâs because they are both referring to being covered in LONG hair.
I started in 2018. I wear both mantillas and longer veils/scarves. (I go to a Roman Catholic church and an Eastern Rite Catholic church.) I do it for personal reasons and because its bibical.
"...we have different convictions every single day." Hmm I don't think you know what you are saying here. As believers we are to stand firm on the truth not have daily differing convictions, maybe I'm assuming here. What religion are you from?
âJudge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?â ââ1 Corinthians⏠â11âŹ:â13⏠âKJVâŹâŹ A woman could wear it only when she prays (as Paul commands) or all the time, scripture allows for both!
I veil in a country where no chritians do. I do it on religious days like sunday or advent. I love it and thow I do get a lot of questions I barely get bad reactions. Having said that, I sometimes do it subtelly. If i am teaching in highschools for internships I where little bandanda like scarves called "boeren zakdoek" witch itsn't standaard fasion but not associated with religion. I do this becouse a full scarf only sometimes would couse a lot of questions becouse it is only asociated with Islam in my country. If I have a premanent job at a school I will probably use full skarfs but for short term I don't find it worth all the distributionđ
True I personally choose to do it full time nowâ€ïž As a side note, Its also a great way to witness to muslims too, its breaks down a barrier when I speak to Muslim women and they are more likely to hear the gospel! (where I live in Canada, there are a lot of muslim too)
I donât wanna feel like Iâm contradicting you. But it is in scripture that the followers of Jesus, Moses and Muhammad the woman have to be veiled. I think the way each religion does it is different, but if you go to the Middle East, you will see most Christians and Jews wear veils
Amen sister PREACH! It's not really only cultural, it's actually biblical. Here's some of the info I gathered in my headcovering journey. Not sure if you are interested or not. But thought I'd pass it along just in case. 1 Corinthians 11:1-18 Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ. Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you. But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, but every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven. For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short. But since it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head. For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man. For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. That is why a wife ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels. Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man nor man of woman; for as woman was made from man, so man is now born of woman. And all things are from God. Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a wife to pray to God with her head uncovered? Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him, but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering. If anyone is inclined to be contentious, we have no other such practice, nor do the churches of God. First of all, to start with, the word for covering in 1 Corthians 11:4, 5,6,7, 13, is the word for, katakalĂœptĆ, from katĂĄ, "down, and kalĂœptĆ, "to cover"-cover down, to make appropriate, to make complete, to wear a veil. It is the same root word used for the veil that separated the Holy of holies from the priests. This is also is the same root word used in the NT for the veil that Moses put on himself to cover the glory that emanated off of him from being the the presence ofnthe LORD. 2 Cor 3:13. And not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face so that the Israelites might not gaze at the outcome of what was being brought to an end. ( kalumma: a covering- covering, especially a covering of head and face, a veil. from kalĂœptĆ ) This word is only used in the Greek for a fabric peice of cloth, and is never used for hair. So clearly the first part of 1 Cor 11 is taking about a peice of fabric. Vrs 15, however, is where all the confusion comes in, uses a complete different word. We also have to note that Paul is using an example from nature about a women's hair. "but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering." This is a different word for "cover"= "peribolaion," and means, "that which is thrown about or a mantel that can be thrown around the shoulders and body, which of course can be done with long hair (As in when a women tosses or throws her hair around). This can be very alluring to men as we see from many examples on magazine covers, in movies, music videos, ect. And a women's thick long hair can be a sort of "covering" or mantel to hide the bodies nakedness. So long hair could essentially be like a "mantel" to hide some of a the bodies nakedness. The English translation makes it hard to understand. The word for covering in the first verses of 1 Cor 11 should really be translated "veil" which is the direct translation. This is where we get the saying, "Let your hair down." During the "sexual revolution" women let thier hair down out-of their buns, uncovered their heads, and tossed their hair back and forth. Up until only the two last generations woman covered in Church. All of our grandmothers would have covered in church. This is why the Hutterites, Mennonites, Amish, the orthodox churches, many Africian congragations, some Catholics, and Messianic Beleivers etc, still cover their hair. Also, we must note that the women's hair is her glory. And as we know the only thing that should be glorified in God's presence is God. So we should not be coming into the presence of the LORD our glory (hair) on display. And as woman is man's glory, he should not be presenting "his glory," (woman) to God uncovered. (1 Cor 11:7). Just a thought, and you can take it or leave it, I personally don't think the verses are only for married women about covering. In the Greek it never uses the word for wife, or husband, just man and women. If read 1 Cor 11:1-16 it wouldn't make sense for the word to mean wife. For example if wife and husband were used instead of man and women instead in 1Cor 11:12. For as the (wife) is from the (husband), even so is the (husband) born by the (wife); but all things of God. A husband cannot be born by his wife. Also, as a woman's hair is her glory, (doxa- honor, renown; glory, an especially divine quality, the unspoken manifestation of God, splendor) we should not be putting our glory/ hair on display before the LORD. Only God's glory should be on display. That is what women (married or unmarried) are called to cover. Because it is about humble respect when we come before the King of Kings, and LORD of Lords. I think even the general term woman can mean young women. For example, bathrooms are men's, or women's. And young boys and girls known that includes them.
Keep running with the Holy Spirit Sister you are beautiful inside and out God loves you!!! God loves everyone Amen! Remember to cling to the bible alone for spiritual knowledge and obey the new testament HalleluYah!
Is what against the doctorine? If you mean veiling then no, 1 Corinthians 11 is mainly about veiling and it doesnât mention veiling outside of prayer at all
Why would you want to convince anyone of that? We should be preaching Jesus not the misinterpretations that covering is a veil when it is obviously long hair Please read 1 Cor 11:15.
âââ@@FA-God-s-Words-MatterYour veis are like that of naturalists , I know these societies have all become victim of nude liberal culture ,but that doesnt mean you should give up your own self respect and modesty in these tough times. These liberal cockroaches are just nude animals. Just few ages back every society was sane and tgen goes this liberal freedom propaganda that fooled masses to reveal more and more of their bodies
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter Viel is long hair ?? Then other corrupt book would say skin is your cloth, you people are shameless to the extent that you even argue that modesty (viel) is for prostitutes like in your other comment on Tamar story . are you even sane?
@@ANNIHILATOR135 You sure like to use the word "nude" a lot. But trying to justify yourself by equating me or anyone that doesn't support your belief as "naturalists" or "liberals" does not help your case. This is not a logical way of proving anything. Like the SS who justified themselves to being better by equating the Jews as roaches and vermin. Not sure how far back you want to go to think things were "saner" maybe you would have liked to have lived back at the reformation age when religious zealots, church officials were burning people at the stake who didn't conform.
@daughter_of_Yahuah Exactly my point. Do what the scriptures say and not someone's interpretation. If Paul is saying to keep the head covered in long hair then do so. That's it, no need to insert the idea of a veil. If God would have really truly cared about a hat he would have mentioned it in the Old Testament. Instead people today want us to believe that God suddenly cared about a garment in a small section in 1st Corinthians. When in fact it has nothing to do with a veil but long and short hair.
@@sosioghosa of course. Is that too hard to believe,,? I don't know how much you read but this is but one of many things . They don't like using the textus receptus, and have an assortment of false doctrines. This is nothing new.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter Ok...did you talk to any pastor, orthodox priest or Catholic bishop to understand their stance or did you just listen to CZcams, did research to supported your stance in order to arrive at this conclusion?. Genuine question.
That is something most Christianâs are confused about when it comes down to the Bible but there are a few great preachers that explain this in depth and share that as the Bible states a woman must cover her hair as the Bible states a woman must cover her head or have her hair cut. This isnât in any way a form of me attacking (: Itâs just a common confusion many of us go through and something I actually wish I knew when I was younger but now that I have been properly educated I myself will be covering my hair (:
@@crystall98 If there are great preachers that say that woman must cover their "hair" then they don't sound so great because it says HEAD not HAIR. Proof: "But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her HEAD uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven." 1st Cor. 11:5 This is also just sharing the truth no attack here either. It is common esp for those in certain sects or legalistic groups to get this passage wrong and think they are referring to a veil. It just says her head should be covered. No mention of a veil or a hat but some people want to interpret and add words to something that is not there. This is quite different by those who know they are referring to hair as the words "long hair", "shorn" and "shaven" are all written twice in the KJV. So if context means anything anymore it is evident they are talking that a woman's head ought to be covered in long hair (Confirmed in verse 15) and that a man's head ought not to be covered in long hair (see verse 14). It is fairly simple deduction, just don't assume covering has to mean a foreign object.
The "long hair" teaching only arose after the 1960s after the feminist movement. It is foreign to 2000 years of Christian history, which has confirmed wearing a veil over the hair.
Despite it being up to us, the Bible does say that women should cover their head when they pray. Although churches are different, I personally veil my head when I pray.â€
I think I want to convert to Christianity but there is one thing holding me back. I donât know if someone here can answer these 2 questions but I hope I can get some clearly. 1. How is Jesus the son of god but also he is god at the same time? 2. How do we know if the Bible is the true word of god because it has been changed and corrected by humans before
My only critique is the answer must be scriptural, not whatever "the times" are. Times change all the time. So it isn't a basis for a biblical answer. Otherwise, great video.
Fortunately not everyone is not following this doctrine even certain sects of the Mennonites have tossed aside this misinterpreted belief (Manhattan Mennonite Church) among other groups. Praise God that people are realizing this misinterpreted belief.
ââŠhair cannot be the covering from Cor that is talked about because if so that would mean all women have to have long hair. ⊠most women in the church today do not have long hair.â This premise is flawed because you are not basing your proof on scripture but on your world view. Some women for whatever reason (medical or born with a disease) canât grow their hair long which is not the same if we add the idea Paul is focusing on those who made the CHOICE to cut their hair short. âAnd if long hair were the covering (which ot is clearly not from the word actually meaning veil) the sentences would not make sense about having her hair shorn or shaved. It would be saying, if a woman doesn't have long hair, cut her hair. Um, what? Cut it shorted then it already is? Then how can she grow it long? Or if a women has short hair, shave her head? What, should we then shave all the women's heads in the church who do not have long hair? And of so, how long does it have to be since having it cut short is a shame to her? First it should be obvious even to the lay Greek scholar that to be covered or uncovered cannot be interpreted solely as a veil. It can be referring to hair since the head has the capacity to be covered in long hair or not covered in long hair (aka uncovered) and we should not act like it cannot. Also not sure what version you are reading but in the KJV it says âFor if the woman be not covered, let her also be shornâ it could clearly be understood that if a woman does not have long hair to let her be shorn (like bald). Therefore it is not saying âCut it shorted when it already is,â no, its going from short hair to bald. I have short hair (as a man) but neither am I shaved or shorn. So the logic still can apply here. Then when you mention the shaven part you ask âWhat, should we then shave all the women's heads in the church who do not have long hair?â Ok so what is the alternative then if we were to accept your interpretation that they are referring to a veil? âWhat, should we then shave all the women's heads in the church who do not WEAR A VEIL?â Does that sound MORE logical to you? Well, IT DOESNâT. At the very least a woman going from short hair to bald is not a huge thing whereas you imply that the verse implies that even a long-haired woman who doesnât wear a veil should have her hair shaved. ââŠif hair is a women's covering, what is the man's covering? Since he is supposed to be uncovered, should all the men in the church continually shave their heads?â If the womanâs head is supposed to be covered and that in LONG hair then when it says that the man should be Uncovered they mean NOT COVERED IN LONG HAIR (aka short hair) anywhere and everywhere. Therefore your logic fails because you are not understanding the meaning between covered and uncovered. Quoting Isaiah 47:1-2 doesnât help your idea if we read that the KJV says âuncover your locks.â It doesnât say the word veil, You are probably reading from a modern version. Besides this it isnât proof that all women ought to wear veils You assume too much when you said ââŠeven virgins were to keep their heads covered and save their hair for their husbands. Otherwise it is like they are showing all their nakedness).â IT SAYS NO SUCH THING. It says nothing about covering for any husband that is totally false. Neither does it imply that not wearing a veil is like they are showing nakedness. You are not an honest person and should be ashamed making such outrageous and unsupported claims. Numbers 5:18 also doesnât prove that all women must cover their heads today. Also, if they were only to show their heads to their husbands (as you claim) then why is she supposedly uncovering her head before a Jewish priest? By the way, are you indirectly supporting that we follow the Old Testament rules that were under the OLD covenant like the grain offering of jealousy? And if you donât then why are you cherry-picking doctrines? Song of Solomon 5:7 is no proof that women must wear veils now and neither does it prove that they HAD to back them then. Just because they did is not a doctrine. The same thing goes for Isaiah 3:22-23. As for Genesis 20:16 you admit that the situation revolves around a wedding not an everyday occurrence but that can be disputed because you want people to see a veil when it says that the money was for a âcovering for her eyes" Lastly in Genesis 24:65. Rebekah covers herself in a veil but it doesnât ANYTHING about a bridal price in connection to the veil. She just simply put it on but you want to make it seem there was a lot more to it and that is deplorable. The only thing that I think we agree on is that they are referring to all women not just those who are married. Though it is true that âa woman's hair is her gloryâ you erroneously add that ââŠwe should not be putting our glory/ hair on display before the LORD. Only God's glory should be on display.â Nowhere does it say this. It says But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering. To write this it is obvious that he and others have seen long hair on women. If it were never meant to be âon displayâ as you put it negatively the woman who washed Jesusâ feet should have been corrected. This completely annihilates this theory. Regarding Tamar she veiled her head which included her hair to appear as a prostitute and hide from the prophet. So if it were typical that prostitutes covered their heads wouldnât that imply that the other women did not do that so that they wouldnât be mistaken for a prostitute? Look this theory about head coverings is false and can be easily proved false I made an extreme study on this subject and so have others. Hereâs a link to one that goes into depth. I pray the Lord that you and everyone here become more aware of Godâs teachings than manâs interpretations. czcams.com/video/pez9U1vshAw/video.html
I have a genuine question that I really hope you donât take the wrong way! What is the purpose of veiling? I know covering the hair is to show respect to God, but what about the hair is disrespectful?
@@natalie6117 you're right. The hair is covered as a way to show respect to God. Not just that, it also serves as a visible reminder of the bridal relation between the church (bride) and the Jesus (the bridegroom). Another thing to know is that your hair is not disrespectful to God. This practice is something that is done as a way to honour and respect God the same way people honour and respect God by clapping(which is a form of praise).
@@sosioghosa But reread your comments above....you say âthere is nothing disrespectful about hairâ and then you say âwe cover our hair to show respect to God.â I guess Iâm still just not getting it......
@@natalie6117 There is nothing disrespectful about hair. The hair is the glory of a woman. Her crown. When she is in the presence of God, she covers her hair("which is her glory/crown") as a way of telling God "I only recognize your glory". This is not about HAVING HAIR.
Gosh no! A veil is not necessary to be holy. Nothing external is really necessary. The Fear of the Lord is necessary but this is an internal disposition that perhaps has external manifestations. Jhn 4:23 But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such as these to worship him As for Saint Paul when he imposes the veil on women it was because of the great disorder of the particular church of Corinth. So it is a discipline for that particular church. Of course thereâs also the cultural aspect of it.. Our blessed mother apparition always have veil. But it is not necessary for salvation or holiness.
Veiling is so beautiful! I want to veil but I'm a white 15-year-old girl and my church is a Pentecostal church so am I able to veil? and I don't even know if my parents will let me because my dad is the pastor of our church
Iâve seen you everywhere! (It feels like lol) anyway yes you can veil if your Pentecostal. I told my mom abt all the evidence Iâve gathered and told her about what God said about Veiling. She let me wear one. Most people donât care about the veil, at least at my church. But idk it depends.
Its not true In the bible Jesus said that women who cut their hair should cover their head when they are praying but the women who dont cut their hair they dont have to cover their head when praying because their long hair will do that for them
actually no the choice is either your Dad's or your husband first of all long hair according to the scriptures King James Bible is a covering secondly if you are not married and your dad is still alive you should obey him if he says wear one you obey him if your married the dad has no more authority and you obey your husband if he says wear one you obey if he says don't wear one you should obey him as for the man no long hair plus no praying or prophesizing while wearing a hat Christ over the man The Man over his wife The parents over their children
Hope the whorshippers of Islamic Allah Khayrul-Makereen the greatest deciver stone lord đ doesn't call it. Yes akhi its hijaba đ€Šââïž i still remember that one arab Muslim comparing a women to shawarma went viral about Veils and temptations. Xd
Do what? it doesn't say the word veil it says women are to be covered and apparently that means long hair. So in a sense yes, do it, keep the hair long and don't cut it short.
@@ivanm2189 Well I wouldnât put it that way since these misunderstandings or misinterpretations are happening to thousands of âChristiansâ over many other doctrines. Mormons wear special underwear, some Pentecostals do not allow their female congregants to wear pants it must be skirts. Some say that women should never ever cut their hair. Millions of Christians and so-called Christians all over the world are following an innumerable amount of false doctrines. The Bible makes mention that some people will depart from the faith and create their own groups with their own doctrines so we should not be surprised to think that people will get this one doctrine wrong. It's more surprising to see others who claim to be Christian and donât understand this bit of truth which shows how little one is reading the Bible. The Bible clearly states that the covering is LONG hair we canât just dismiss 1st Cor 11:15 simply because we WANT to or because someone taught you a false doctrine? Study to show yourself approved before God rightly diving the word of truth.
In traditional Orthodoxy women are to cover head (there is a style of headdress) at church and everywhere else. In more modern parishes they just have during church and praying
@@DoomerDoxy Well, you stated that in 'Traditional Orthodoxy', women cover their heads everywhere. Could you let me know of any example of a parish where women who belong to it practice this?
@@DoomerDoxy That's awesome! So in your experience, most Orthodox Christian women cover their heads in public too? Even in Western Europe and in the United States?
i really wish veiling was more acceptable these days
U can as a Muslim
â@@FreshmenSales Don't be misinformed. Veiling was always a thing even before Judaism and Christianity. Even the stone worshipping pagans in mecca veiled too.
â@@FreshmenSales Veiling is a thing from the middle east not just for muslims.
@@FreshmenSalesnot rly bc hijabis are automatic targets for islamaphobes
â@@SantiagoRodriguez-tz5xhuh no the pagan don't wear veil ehat are talking about
i wore a veil for a little while and loved it so much but i was getting threats at school so i had to stop....
Hi! I don't know if it'll help your situation with threats but I recently found out that covering with bandana is as good as covering in veil if you don't have an opportunity to! It doesn't look strange to others but still can do its function, even if id doesn't feel the way it could be. Hope this helps, God bless!
@@grr9627 literally love this, tysm đ
Why would someone threats you for wearing your veil? They are sick minded
When you get Over the Hill (aka reaching âHagdomâ) you can be as grumpy & frumpy as you desire. đ No one will dare approach you, give âThe Lookâ.
I understand you. I also tried veiling at school, but my classmates misunderstood, and started yelling, "Allahu Akbar!" In the middle of class at me. They basically are Islamophobic rude people.
I veil when I pray now, but I'm starting to like the idea of veiling full time. It not only makes me feel closer to God, it makes me feel feminine.
Same I started to full time a few years ago â€ïž
I'm christian, and I've REALLY been wanting to veil for many, many years now, but I get in trouble with my family every time I do. They usually make some racist comment and tell me I'm likely to get shot if I veil, but I just moved halfway across the country from them, so maybe now is the time to finally veil
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Go you! You've got this!
Demons have taking over this country.
It's important to wear a veil in Christianity
@@kas2840 facepalm
3 months. How's it going?
I'm a Christian and live in a very rural farming community. I wrap everyday. I stand out, but I then get to talk to others about it.đ
I love that âșïž I really want to start doing this and tbh Iâve looked at it on and off for years so I think I just need to be brave and do it â€ïž
That is so cool!! I clicked on your Pic and I love the way you style it. I hope it becomes more normalized. I veil in church and I'm the only person my age I see doing it. I hope others might start to veil too. đđ it is a beautiful tradition that connects us to our ancestors and our Godd and Mother Mary!
I honestly feel such a pull to veil. Once I got married I realized I didnât want to attract attention towards myself like I did when I was dating. I really wanted to feel like only my husband could see my body. Itâs not about shame at all but about keeping something special for my marriage. When I found out Catholics veil and the meaning behind it, I brought it up with my husband and he was very much against it. Heâs discerning whether heâs a Christian or not and is very much I would say indoctrinated by French liberalism so heâs uncomfortable about me wearing a veilâŠ..so I would feel kinda uncomfortable wearing one-this is definitely about shame! Please pray for me ladiesđ
You'd attract more attention to yourself while wearing it. Also, it's just hair and your husband doesn't appreciate whatever you're trying to (supposedly) do for your marriage which is kinda contradictory.
My good friend is VERY convicted that that 1 Corinthians 11 passage is about women being covered by their long hair! But even if you have a covering of cloth in mind, you could use a banana, or Amazon has these cute little elastic triangle things that just look like a little hair accessory but will still serve as a covering. If your husband gets upset about that, tell him it makes you feel sexy (for him) and want to show his authority. If it's a compliment to him it might be hard for him to say no đ if that would upset him though, I would simply defer to his judgment. This is not a salvation issue, and showing humble submission to him will be the heart of that passage. Blessings â€
The Scriptures command to cover while praying and prophesyingâŠthatâs a command, not a liberty.
The liberty is in covering outside of that function.
Today, I begin wearing a veil full-time (right now 10 am) and I pray that it goes well.
I pray for you, sister đ
hey, congrats !
I pray for you, and hoped it went well!
How's it going
@@UzairAshrafj So... I stopped wearing a veil full-time for a month or so. I still wear the veil for church and church events.
Can I veil as a 14 year old!đ„čđ«¶đ»
YES please do
I want to try too I'm 13!
Absolutely! If you feel called to it, go for it. đ©·
You absolutely can!
It is wonderful to see Christians everywhere returning to headcovering, despite the fact that in the West, it was suppressed by the feminist movement. Cling to the practices of the early Christians and encourage veiling!
Even in christianity wearing veil is a must.
Your genuine love of Christ and the Spirit moving thru you is beautiful!
I grew up with strict, yet loving parents that sadly got mixed up with the Bill Gothard/ATI teachings. After several years of 'trying to fit-in and live a godly life' my parents heard the Spirit's voice and left, but the damage had been done with scars and open wounds left on myself and my older siblings. Anything that wasn't approved by ATI/Bill Gothard's teaching was a sin, whether it be short/shorn hair, not wanting my highest calling to be a wife/mother, wearing pants, having "secular" friends, masculine hobbies or skills, wanting to be a paramedic like my aunt (was my idol growing up), liking "worldly" music, anything that didn't fit their twisted theology/ teachings = sin. I was constantly criticized by my peers, adults, even shunned by members of the church for my lifestyle despite both my parents being okay with it. My whole world and who I was was my family (parents & siblings) and the church, that after we left that group and moved to a remote town to start a new life, I felt isolated and like I didn't know who I was anymore. I sttuggled with Scripture and blamed God, as all i saw was more legality and the fear to be a "good christian"; I still believed that there is a God, but any thoughts of relationship with Him were gone. I worked in Emergency Services for almost 10yrs, allowing it to absorb and become my identity, struggled after multiple bad calls where I felt death and trauma had become me, and after awhile death seemed the only way out.
Paise God that this was not my end! It took a career ending injury to finally allow me the time to get therapy/counseling, treatment for my newly diagnosed PTSD, and employment where I could be accommodated for my PTSD without fear of being "unfit for duty".
I've just recently purchased a non-King James translation of the Bible, receiving spiritual guidance and encouragement from my younger brother, and slowly overcoming the pain of my past. My younger brother (newly ordained Methodist minister) has been a true blessing for me and seeing how he had to struggle/fight everyday, at times calling in tears at how others at theology seminar were doing all they could to prevent his ordination, really struck me that despite all this my brother still wanted to praise and seek relationship with God. The fact he struggled with God showed me that it's okay to question and be angry at times, and to feel confused, but at the end of the day or by dawning of morning my brother would sing praises and ask for God's will to be.
This morning I was mindlessly scrolling when some of your short videos popped up and after watching a few subscribed to your channel
Read the Psalms. They helped me learn how to pray and it sounds just like your brother's attitude- God can handle our emotions, but we must bring them to Him humbly and trust that things will work out with Him in the end. Blessings â€
Paul roots head covering in creation. So it transcends time and culture. It should at least be done during prayer.
Yes this is true because the covering is LONG hair and that transcends time and culture.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matterthe covering is not long hair. He writes that women are to veil during prayer and when prophesying. We cannot take off our âlongâ hair when we are not doing these activities and place them back on when we begin to do them. For this reason Paul was referring to a removable fabric that is a sign (Tav) of the relationship between God and Man.
@@92spice18 I agree IF and only IF Paul were saying that there were ONLY two moments when a woman ought to cover. But I don't assume that like some do. I believe Paul was just giving a couple of examples not two strict conditions.
The first thing that everyone must understand when talking about this topic is that it DOES NOT say the word âveil âor any other physical headwear, as far as the KJV is concerned. It surely mentions that the womanâs head should be covered, and no one disputes this, but it does not say that it should be covered with a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or any other specific headwear. The verses in question within 1st Corinthians 11 mention the words, cover, covered, uncovered, and covering, but that does not mean we can translate this to mean specifically a veil, a shawl, a bonnet, a cap, or anything else similar. In fact, it would seem more like an adverb rather than a noun. Nevertheless, the word âcoverâ is often unfortunately interpreted by head covering promoters to mean a veil above all other types of headwear, even if there is no evidence to prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt. To do so would mean that one is trying to read more into the verse than what is actually stated and is not truly seeking an exegesis of the Scriptures.
Some have claimed that they are referring to a physical synthetic head covering because the Scriptures seem to indicate that there are two exclusive conditions in order to wear one and that is when a woman is either praying and/or prophesying. But does this interpretation stand up to logic?
If we were to believe that under certain conditions a woman ought to wear a physical head covering, then it stands to reason that under OTHER conditions a woman should be able NOT to wear one. For example, if you are going to argue that a woman ought to wear a veil because the Bible claims there are two conditions, then it is logical to presume that any other condition would ALLOW them to be without one, like speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc.
Now if a head covering promoter should claim that there are MORE conditions, then they admit that there arenât really âtwoâ conditions thereby nullifying the two-condition argument.
The reasoning behind why the âtwo-conditionâ argument is important for veil promoters is because if these words were actual conditions, then it would seem as though the covering were something that can be placed on or taken off. So even though it does not literally or EXPLICITLY say anything about putting on or taking off a veil. Veil promotors form this belief based on what they believe to be IMPLIED and not by a direct statement. Many people like to believe this because they ASSUME that praying and prophesying are two conditions instead of seeing them as mere examples.
* Praying and prophesying were meant to be viewed as examples, not conditionsâŠ
Now I can understand how someone can mistakenly conclude praying and prophesying as conditions in verse 5, on the surface, but once you read the rest of the verses in context one cannot reach that conclusion. For example, if the strongest argument is because there were conditions for women to wear veils because of verse 5 then why donât we hear the same thing spoken of about men in verse 4?
âEvery man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.â
Normally we do not hear the argument that men ought not to have their heads covered exclusively under two conditions as we hear for women as to why they should. I think it is because that would imply that they CAN have their heads covered under other circumstances like the examples I mentioned before as in speaking in tongues, interpreting tongues, healing the sick, casting out devils, etc. But I suspect a veil promoter would not go along with this. Then there is verse 7:
âFor a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.â
So, there seems to be ANOTHER reason for men not to cover. Therefore, if the reason for men not to cover their heads in this verse is because he is the âimage and glory of God,â then why even mention praying or prophesying in verse 4? Should a man not be covered under ANY condition since verse 7 overrides any supposed conditions? Shouldnât that make you question that perhaps Paul was just giving a couple of examples? Verses 4 and 5 are basically the same except for whom they are directed yet when one hears the arguments by veil promoters it is typically about how verse 5 is conditional for women yet for men in verse 4 it is usually not spoken of. Again, isnât it more likely that Paul was using the words praying and prophesying as examples in both verses?
We can also get a sense that Paul was referring to praying and prophesying as examples if we read verse 13 when it only mentions the word praying and NOT prophesying.
âJudge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?â
If there were only two exclusive conditions, then why would he leave out prophesying? We canât say he got tired in his writing as he mentioned both words in verses 4 and 5. So, what can we say about this? Just that Paul was giving us a couple of examples of how doing something HOLY or GODLY does not give a pleasant appearance if the woman is uncovered, meaning not covered in long hair and the same goes for men when their heads are covered in long hair since that is exactly one is supposed to understand when reading verse 14.
* So Is the Covering Long Hair or a Veil? âŠ..
If we examine all the verses from verses 4 to 15 without bias, we should at least agree that at certain points the verses are referring to physical heads and hair. In that case, what we should be asking when mentioning the words âcovered,â âcover,â âuncoveredâ and âcoveringâ is: Are they referring to long or short hair or some kind of foreign object that goes on the head? Some will even say all the above, but if we carefully examine verse 15 we would be getting a clearer picture of what was being referred to in the earlier verses when it mentions these words.
âBut if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her FOR a covering." KJV
So if the covering is long hair, then the words âcoveredâ or âcoverâ (which are synonymous with âcoveringâ) should be understood as long hair as well. If thatâs true, then to be âuncoveredâ would mean âshort hair.â If so, then we can get a better picture of verse 4 when it says that it is shameful or dishonorable for a man to pray or prophesy with his head âcovered.â Note the similarity of verse 4 to verse 14 thatâs because they are both referring to being covered in LONG hair.
â@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter yep i agree with you, it says so in 1 corinthians, long hair is women's glory and given to her as her covering
â@@FA-God-s-Words-Matterthanks for your time spent on that comment, good reasoning.
You look lovely with a veil. Your hair is beautiful.
I started in 2018. I wear both mantillas and longer veils/scarves. (I go to a Roman Catholic church and an Eastern Rite Catholic church.) I do it for personal reasons and because its bibical.
You can choose to veil one day, and not the next, itâs conviction based and we have different convictions every single day.
"...we have different convictions every single day." Hmm I don't think you know what you are saying here. As believers we are to stand firm on the truth not have daily differing convictions, maybe I'm assuming here. What religion are you from?
âJudge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?â
ââ1 Corinthians⏠â11âŹ:â13⏠âKJVâŹâŹ
A woman could wear it only when she prays (as Paul commands) or all the time, scripture allows for both!
I veil in a country where no chritians do. I do it on religious days like sunday or advent. I love it and thow I do get a lot of questions I barely get bad reactions. Having said that, I sometimes do it subtelly. If i am teaching in highschools for internships I where little bandanda like scarves called "boeren zakdoek" witch itsn't standaard fasion but not associated with religion. I do this becouse a full scarf only sometimes would couse a lot of questions becouse it is only asociated with Islam in my country. If I have a premanent job at a school I will probably use full skarfs but for short term I don't find it worth all the distributionđ
True I personally choose to do it full time nowâ€ïž
As a side note, Its also a great way to witness to muslims too, its breaks down a barrier when I speak to Muslim women and they are more likely to hear the gospel! (where I live in Canada, there are a lot of muslim too)
I veil when at Mass.
Yeah enjoy....
God will teach us more than a worldly woman...
So informative! đŻ
Im muslim but this is coolâ€â€â€
I donât wanna feel like Iâm contradicting you. But it is in scripture that the followers of Jesus, Moses and Muhammad the woman have to be veiled. I think the way each religion does it is different, but if you go to the Middle East, you will see most Christians and Jews wear veils
God bless, great video!â€
I personally like to veil
"THANKS FOR THAT 'GREAT' ADVICE,' THERE SIS, I'LL DO THIS FROM NOW ONWARDS ALL OF THE TIME IN MY LIFE HERE OK?" 'BLESS U!'
Amen sister PREACH!
It's not really only cultural, it's actually biblical.
Here's some of the info I gathered in my headcovering journey.
Not sure if you are interested or not. But thought I'd pass it along just in case.
1 Corinthians 11:1-18
Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ. Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you. But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, but every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven. For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short. But since it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head. For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man. For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. That is why a wife ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels. Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man nor man of woman; for as woman was made from man, so man is now born of woman. And all things are from God. Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a wife to pray to God with her head uncovered? Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him, but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering. If anyone is inclined to be contentious, we have no other such practice, nor do the churches of God.
First of all, to start with, the word for covering in 1 Corthians 11:4, 5,6,7, 13, is the word for, katakalĂœptĆ, from katĂĄ, "down, and kalĂœptĆ, "to cover"-cover down, to make appropriate, to make complete, to wear a veil.
It is the same root word used for the veil that separated the Holy of holies from the priests.
This is also is the same root word used in the NT for the veil that Moses put on himself to cover the glory that emanated off of him from being the the presence ofnthe LORD.
2 Cor 3:13. And not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face so that the Israelites might not gaze at the outcome of what was being brought to an end. ( kalumma: a covering- covering, especially a covering of head and face, a veil. from kalĂœptĆ )
This word is only used in the Greek for a fabric peice of cloth, and is never used for hair.
So clearly the first part of 1 Cor 11 is taking about a peice of fabric.
Vrs 15, however, is where all the confusion comes in, uses a complete different word. We also have to note that Paul is using an example from nature about a women's hair. "but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering."
This is a different word for "cover"= "peribolaion," and means, "that which is thrown about or a mantel that can be thrown around the shoulders and body, which of course can be done with long hair (As in when a women tosses or throws her hair around). This can be very alluring to men as we see from many examples on magazine covers, in movies, music videos, ect.
And a women's thick long hair can be a sort of "covering" or mantel to hide the bodies nakedness. So long hair could essentially be like a "mantel" to hide some of a the bodies nakedness.
The English translation makes it hard to understand. The word for covering in the first verses of 1 Cor 11 should really be translated "veil" which is the direct translation.
This is where we get the saying, "Let your hair down."
During the "sexual revolution" women let thier hair down out-of their buns, uncovered their heads, and tossed their hair back and forth.
Up until only the two last generations woman covered in Church. All of our grandmothers would have covered in church. This is why the Hutterites, Mennonites, Amish, the orthodox churches, many Africian congragations, some Catholics, and Messianic Beleivers etc, still cover their hair.
Also, we must note that the women's hair is her glory. And as we know the only thing that should be glorified in God's presence is God. So we should not be coming into the presence of the LORD our glory (hair) on display.
And as woman is man's glory, he should not be presenting "his glory," (woman) to God uncovered. (1 Cor 11:7).
Just a thought, and you can take it or leave it, I personally don't think the verses are only for married women about covering. In the Greek it never uses the word for wife, or husband, just man and women. If read 1 Cor 11:1-16 it wouldn't make sense for the word to mean wife. For example if wife and husband were used instead of man and women instead in 1Cor 11:12.
For as the (wife) is from the (husband), even so is the (husband) born by the (wife); but all things of God.
A husband cannot be born by his wife.
Also, as a woman's hair is her glory, (doxa- honor, renown; glory, an especially divine quality, the unspoken manifestation of God, splendor) we should not be putting our glory/ hair on display before the LORD. Only God's glory should be on display. That is what women (married or unmarried) are called to cover. Because it is about humble respect when we come before the King of Kings, and LORD of Lords.
I think even the general term woman can mean young women. For example, bathrooms are men's, or women's. And young boys and girls known that includes them.
Any woman can cover up. I'm saying this as a Muslim woman.
@@Kaj14122Iâm glad to hear that, Iâve been nervous.. because I am a catholic woman, I dress modestly and veil to pray. But I feel so comfortable when covering my hair, and almost find myself longing to. When I get married to my fiancĂ© I want him to be the only one to see my hair. I am not sure how or what to over up my hair with to avoid ridicule from other religions. đą do you have any advice? Thanks!
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where did you buy your veil? love it!
This implies that wearing a vail is cultural. That is not the case. It is commanded by God.
Where did you get your veil? It's so pretty!
I'm a traditional catholic and I thought we were the only western Christians who veiled. I guess I was wrong! This makes me feel not so alone!
Are you part of the society of st pius the 10th?
@@natalie6117 Nope, I believe Francis is our pope and the Novus Ordo is valid. I just appreciate the beauty of the Latin Mass.
@@olivianeukam5636 I see! Cool, thanks for sharing with me! âșïžâ€ïž
Amish and Mennonite are Anabaptist (branch of Protestantism) and their women are veiled full time even today.
I'm planning on part-time veiling soon, just to see how i like it, so this video was so helpful! question: is it against Catholic doctrine?
Is what against the doctorine? If you mean veiling then no, 1 Corinthians 11 is mainly about veiling and it doesnât mention veiling outside of prayer at all
@@I.Have.Darkvision that is what I meant, so thank you!
@@I.Have.Darkvision Um no the covering is long hair it doesn't say veil at any time. Please read 1 Cor. 11:15.
â@@FA-God-s-Words-MatterNo, it actually does mean a veil. What would a woman that is bald and/or old and missing her crowning glory do?
Do it, you won't regret it. If you ever wonder if you should do something, ask yourself if our Lady would have done it. đ
Nowadays even getting them to veil for praying is impossible to convince đą
Why would you want to convince anyone of that? We should be preaching Jesus not the misinterpretations that covering is a veil when it is obviously long hair Please read 1 Cor 11:15.
âââ@@FA-God-s-Words-MatterYour veis are like that of naturalists , I know these societies have all become victim of nude liberal culture ,but that doesnt mean you should give up your own self respect and modesty in these tough times. These liberal cockroaches are just nude animals. Just few ages back every society was sane and tgen goes this liberal freedom propaganda that fooled masses to reveal more and more of their bodies
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter Viel is long hair ?? Then other corrupt book would say skin is your cloth, you people are shameless to the extent that you even argue that modesty (viel) is for prostitutes like in your other comment on Tamar story . are you even sane?
@@ANNIHILATOR135 You sure like to use the word "nude" a lot. But trying to justify yourself by equating me or anyone that doesn't support your belief as "naturalists" or "liberals" does not help your case. This is not a logical way of proving anything. Like the SS who justified themselves to being better by equating the Jews as roaches and vermin. Not sure how far back you want to go to think things were "saner" maybe you would have liked to have lived back at the reformation age when religious zealots, church officials were burning people at the stake who didn't conform.
Yes. In summer. When raining. Windy. Cold. Snowing. At Airports- to hide from weird scary ppl đ
There are also some Christians that believe cutting your hair is a sin I think they use the head covering rule for that but I'm not entirely certain.
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@daughter_of_Yahuah Exactly my point. Do what the scriptures say and not someone's interpretation. If Paul is saying to keep the head covered in long hair then do so. That's it, no need to insert the idea of a veil. If God would have really truly cared about a hat he would have mentioned it in the Old Testament. Instead people today want us to believe that God suddenly cared about a garment in a small section in 1st Corinthians. When in fact it has nothing to do with a veil but long and short hair.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter So the Greek, Ethiopian, Eritrean, Coptic, Anabaptist, Catholics, Byzantine Catholic, Assyrians, Armenians, Various African Pentecostal denominations got the verse wrong
@@sosioghosa of course. Is that too hard to believe,,? I don't know how much you read but this is but one of many things . They don't like using the textus receptus, and have an assortment of false doctrines. This is nothing new.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter Ok...did you talk to any pastor, orthodox priest or Catholic bishop to understand their stance or did you just listen to CZcams, did research to supported your stance in order to arrive at this conclusion?. Genuine question.
Where do you get your veils?
Where did you buy this veil ? please
I would like to know as well
Look up "Blessed Celebration Orthodox Christian shawls".
@@someoneveryclever Thank you đđđ
No the choice is done by God. God is sovereign over mankind
When praying and Prophecying
You are probably one of the prettiest women I've ever seen. Like truly. And I hate you for your hair lol
It's a Everlast comand from Christ to cover while praying or prophesying
Itâs up to Godâs word. Lean not onto your own understanding
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I want to do it because it's in the Bible and it's also good for hiding my hair. đ
If only someone told me about the veil this way before they got me to wear hijab full time lol
At my church weâre taught that long hair is our covering.
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@@StNo-cf7km Idolater
That is something most Christianâs are confused about when it comes down to the Bible but there are a few great preachers that explain this in depth and share that as the Bible states a woman must cover her hair as the Bible states a woman must cover her head or have her hair cut. This isnât in any way a form of me attacking (:
Itâs just a common confusion many of us go through and something I actually wish I knew when I was younger but now that I have been properly educated I myself will be covering my hair (:
@@crystall98 If there are great preachers that say that woman must cover their "hair" then they don't sound so great because it says HEAD not HAIR.
Proof: "But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her HEAD uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven." 1st Cor. 11:5 This is also just sharing the truth no attack here either.
It is common esp for those in certain sects or legalistic groups to get this passage wrong and think they are referring to a veil. It just says her head should be covered. No mention of a veil or a hat but some people want to interpret and add words to something that is not there. This is quite different by those who know they are referring to hair as the words "long hair", "shorn" and "shaven" are all written twice in the KJV. So if context means anything anymore it is evident they are talking that a woman's head ought to be covered in long hair (Confirmed in verse 15) and that a man's head ought not to be covered in long hair (see verse 14).
It is fairly simple deduction, just don't assume covering has to mean a foreign object.
The "long hair" teaching only arose after the 1960s after the feminist movement. It is foreign to 2000 years of Christian history, which has confirmed wearing a veil over the hair.
Despite it being up to us, the Bible does say that women should cover their head when they pray. Although churches are different, I personally veil my head when I pray.â€
I have a question does veil for women and Also for teenager girls please reply sis
Please! Where did you get your veil!
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1 Corinthians 11: 2-16
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I think I want to convert to Christianity but there is one thing holding me back. I donât know if someone here can answer these 2 questions but I hope I can get some clearly.
1. How is Jesus the son of god but also he is god at the same time?
2. How do we know if the Bible is the true word of god because it has been changed and corrected by humans before
My only critique is the answer must be scriptural, not whatever "the times" are.
Times change all the time. So it isn't a basis for a biblical answer.
Otherwise, great video.
Where can one get one?
Is there a dress code while veiling? I dont own any dresses or skirts but have nice dress pants that I could wear but not sure if it is appropriate.
Just make sure your outfit is modest.
Just cover your arms, legs. and body.
? I am Christian but I live in Muslim Street and I'm scared to wear it out
Iâm a Hellenic polytheist and I veil full time!
Can you make a video how to get closer to god or something please?
There isnt a tuturial
Read the Bible, trust Jesus as Savior AND Lord. â€
Fortunately not everyone is not following this doctrine even certain sects of the Mennonites have tossed aside this misinterpreted belief (Manhattan Mennonite Church) among other groups. Praise God that people are realizing this misinterpreted belief.
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I grew up in the church and had NEVER known anyone to cover their head, and I never heard teaching on it as a child, youth, or young adult. So I can see how people simply don't understand it.
We are not supposed to be like the world. And the wolrd hates the God given authority system that He laid out from the foundation of the world. And we see the orossive down fall of our culture, churches, families, and marraiges since woman have thrown off their coverings.
Also, i want to point.out that the hair cannot be the covering from Cor that is talked about because if so that would mean all women have to have long hair. Amd let's be honest, most women in the church today do not have long hair. And if long hair were the covering (which ot is clearly not from the word actually meaning veil) the sentences would not make sense about having her hair shorn or shaved. It would be saying, if a wome doesn't have long hair, cut her hair. Um, what? Cut it shorted then it already is? Then how can she grow it long? Or if a women has short hair, shave her head? What, should we then shave all the women's heads in the church who do not have long hair? And of so, how long does it have to be since having it cut short is a shame to her? And what about women who can't grow their hair long, or have an autoimmune disease and don't have hair, or what if people are sick, or in chemo? No that would not make any sense. Also if hair is a women's covering, what is the man's covering? Since he is supposed to be uncovered, should all the men in the church continueually shave their heads? No of course not. This is why men take off their hats in church and at baseball games.
So why do we know and follow one part of this teaching, men to take off their hats, but not follow the other part of the teaching, for women to cover or veil their heads?
Also, here are some verses in the OT about head covering. Hope these help.
Isaiah 47:1-2. Come down and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon; sit on the ground without a throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans! For you shall no more be called tender and delicate. Take the millstones and grind flour, "put off your veil", strip off your robe, uncover your legs, pass through the rivers.
(So as we can see, even virgins were to keep their heads covered and save their hair for their husbands. Otherwise it is like they are showing all their nakedness).
Numbers 5:18. Then the priest shall stand the woman before the LORD, "uncover the womanâs head," and put the offering for remembering in her hands, which is the grain offering of jealousy. And the priest shall have in his hand the bitter water that brings a curse.
Song of Solomon 5:7
The watchmen found me as they went about in the city; they beat me, they bruised me, they took away my veil, those watchmen of the walls. (radid: a wide wrapper, large veil).
Isaiah 3:22-23.
the headdresses, the armlets, the sashes, the perfume boxes, and the amulets; (headdress, From pa'ar; an embellishment, i.e. Fancy head-dress/ headcovering -- beauty, bonnet, goodly, ornament, atire).
the festal robes, the mantles, the cloaks, and the handbags; the mirrors, the linen garments, the turbans, and the veils (radid: a wide wrapper, large veil)
Also Genesis 20:16 says in the Hebrew
Then to Sarah he said, âBehold, I have given your brother a thousand pieces of silver; indeed this is "a covering for her eyes" (to put back on her wedding covering) you before all who are with you and before everybody.â Thus she was rebuked.
From what I understand In Genesis 24:65. Rebekah covers herself because the bridal price has already been paid. 2 vrs later we see Isaac take Rebekah bright away into his tent. There was no wedding ceremony. Her covering herself was an outward show of her marriage to Isaac. Since they were married he was allowed to take her right away into his tent and "uncover" her.
Also, just a thought, and you can take it or leave it, I personally don't think the verses are only for married women, as in the Greek it never uses the word for wife, or husband, just man and women. And if read 1 Cor 11:1-16 it wouldn't make sense for the word to mean wife. For example if wife and husband were used instead of man and women instead, 1Cor 11:12. ) For as the (wife) is from the (husband), even so is the (husband) born by the (wife); but all things of God.
A husband cannot be born by his wife.
(The word in Greek used in 1 cor 11 is= guné, meaning, "a woman, women, wife, my lady, a woman of any age, whether a virgin, or married, or a widow.)
Also, as a woman's hair is her glory, (doxa- honor, renown; glory, an especially divine quality, the unspoken manifestation of God, splendor) we should not be putting our glory/ hair on display before the LORD. Only God's glory should be on display. That is what women (married or unmarried) are called to cover. Because it is about humble respect when we come before the King of Kings, and LORD of Lords.
Tamar veiled her hair and face. The face was covered so that the "prostitutes" face couldn't be seen.
If you want to listen to some sermons and info on 1 Cor 11 here are some links. Thanks for letting me share all that God has taught me. And again I am sorry for blindly repeating what I heard someone briefly touch on without every studying it myself, or being "a good Barean" and checking into what I had heard them teach. I apologize.
"Headship and Head-Covering: Interpreting 1 Corinthians 11 in the 21st Century"
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"R.C. Sproul on Head Coverings (A Clip from "To Cover or Not to Cover?")"
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"The Biblical Doctrine of Headcovering"
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"Headcovering Series"
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"Why I started being Modest."
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Headcovering, cultural, or Biblical?
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"Becuase of angels."
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This is lovely thank you†God bless
ââŠhair cannot be the covering from Cor that is talked about because if so that would mean all women have to have long hair. ⊠most women in the church today do not have long hair.â
This premise is flawed because you are not basing your proof on scripture but on your world view. Some women for whatever reason (medical or born with a disease) canât grow their hair long which is not the same if we add the idea Paul is focusing on those who made the CHOICE to cut their hair short.
âAnd if long hair were the covering (which ot is clearly not from the word actually meaning veil) the sentences would not make sense about having her hair shorn or shaved. It would be saying, if a woman doesn't have long hair, cut her hair. Um, what? Cut it shorted then it already is? Then how can she grow it long? Or if a women has short hair, shave her head? What, should we then shave all the women's heads in the church who do not have long hair? And of so, how long does it have to be since having it cut short is a shame to her?
First it should be obvious even to the lay Greek scholar that to be covered or uncovered cannot be interpreted solely as a veil. It can be referring to hair since the head has the capacity to be covered in long hair or not covered in long hair (aka uncovered) and we should not act like it cannot. Also not sure what version you are reading but in the KJV it says âFor if the woman be not covered, let her also be shornâ it could clearly be understood that if a woman does not have long hair to let her be shorn (like bald). Therefore it is not saying âCut it shorted when it already is,â no, its going from short hair to bald. I have short hair (as a man) but neither am I shaved or shorn. So the logic still can apply here. Then when you mention the shaven part you ask âWhat, should we then shave all the women's heads in the church who do not have long hair?â Ok so what is the alternative then if we were to accept your
interpretation that they are referring to a veil?
âWhat, should we then shave all the women's heads in the church who do not WEAR A VEIL?â
Does that sound MORE logical to you? Well, IT DOESNâT. At the very least a woman going from short hair to bald is not a huge thing whereas you imply that the verse implies that even a long-haired woman who doesnât wear a veil should have her hair shaved.
ââŠif hair is a women's covering, what is the man's covering? Since he is supposed to be uncovered, should all the men in the church continually shave their heads?â If the womanâs head is supposed to be covered and that in LONG hair then when it says that the man should be Uncovered they mean NOT COVERED IN LONG HAIR (aka short hair) anywhere and everywhere. Therefore your logic fails because you are not understanding the meaning between covered and uncovered.
Quoting Isaiah 47:1-2 doesnât help your idea if we read that the KJV says âuncover your locks.â It doesnât say the word veil, You are probably reading from a modern version. Besides this it isnât proof that all women ought to wear veils
You assume too much when you said ââŠeven virgins were to keep their heads covered and save their hair for their husbands. Otherwise it is like they are showing all their nakedness).â IT SAYS NO SUCH THING. It says nothing about covering for any husband that is totally false. Neither does it imply that not wearing a veil is like they are showing nakedness. You are not an honest person and should be ashamed making such outrageous and unsupported claims.
Numbers 5:18 also doesnât prove that all women must cover their heads today. Also, if they were only to show their heads to their husbands (as you claim) then why is she supposedly uncovering her head before a Jewish priest? By the way, are you indirectly supporting that we follow the Old Testament rules that were under the OLD covenant like the grain offering of jealousy? And if you donât then why are you cherry-picking doctrines?
Song of Solomon 5:7 is no proof that women must wear veils now and neither does it prove that they HAD to back them then. Just because they did is not a doctrine. The same thing goes for Isaiah 3:22-23. As for Genesis 20:16 you admit that the situation revolves around a wedding not an everyday occurrence but that can be disputed because you want people to see a veil when it says that the money was for a âcovering for her eyes" Lastly in Genesis 24:65. Rebekah covers herself in a veil but it doesnât ANYTHING about a bridal price in connection to the veil. She just simply put it on but you want to make it seem there was a lot more to it and that is deplorable.
The only thing that I think we agree on is that they are referring to all women not just those who are married.
Though it is true that âa woman's hair is her gloryâ you erroneously add that ââŠwe should not be putting our glory/ hair on display before the LORD. Only God's glory should be on display.â Nowhere does it say this. It says But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering. To write this it is obvious that he and others have seen long hair on women. If it were never meant to be âon displayâ as you put it negatively the woman who washed Jesusâ feet should have been corrected. This completely annihilates this theory.
Regarding Tamar she veiled her head which included her hair to appear as a prostitute and hide from the prophet. So if it were typical that prostitutes covered their heads wouldnât that imply that the other women did not do that so that they wouldnât be mistaken for a prostitute?
Look this theory about head coverings is false and can be easily proved false I made an extreme study on this subject and so have others. Hereâs a link to one that goes into depth. I pray the Lord that you and everyone here become more aware of Godâs teachings than manâs interpretations. czcams.com/video/pez9U1vshAw/video.html
@@FA-God-s-Words-MatterThank you ! The interpretation she has about the veil is sadly religiosity.
@@FA-God-s-Words-Matter LIBERALISM AND NATURALISTS WILL CONTINUE TO BEND THE COMMANDS TO SUPPORT DISGUSTING THINGS , EVEN NUDITY
@@StNo-gr2ly Biblical Heterodox
1 Corinthians 11
I have a genuine question that I really hope you donât take the wrong way! What is the purpose of veiling? I know covering the hair is to show respect to God, but what about the hair is disrespectful?
No. The hair is a woman's glory. There's nothing disrespectful about the hair.
@@sosioghosa So then why must it be covered? I thought it was covered as a sign of respect to God?
@@natalie6117 you're right. The hair is covered as a way to show respect to God. Not just that, it also serves as a visible reminder of the bridal relation between the church (bride) and the Jesus (the bridegroom).
Another thing to know is that your hair is not disrespectful to God. This practice is something that is done as a way to honour and respect God the same way people honour and respect God by clapping(which is a form of praise).
@@sosioghosa But reread your comments above....you say âthere is nothing disrespectful about hairâ and then you say âwe cover our hair to show respect to God.â I guess Iâm still just not getting it......
@@natalie6117 There is nothing disrespectful about hair. The hair is the glory of a woman. Her crown. When she is in the presence of God, she covers her hair("which is her glory/crown") as a way of telling God "I only recognize your glory". This is not about HAVING HAIR.
how about if you don't want to veil at all? Is it ok according to you?
Well, Jesus wants us to wear a veil to be holy.
Gosh no! A veil is not necessary to be holy. Nothing external is really necessary. The Fear of the Lord is necessary but this is an internal disposition that perhaps has external manifestations.
Jhn 4:23 But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such as these to worship him
As for Saint Paul when he imposes the veil on women it was because of the great disorder of the particular church of Corinth. So it is a discipline for that particular church. Of course thereâs also the cultural aspect of it..
Our blessed mother apparition always have veil. But it is not necessary for salvation or holiness.
@@user-ll3wf6bb6c Well he says we should be modest.
@@rosexoxo_Roblox yes, we should be modest.
@@user-ll3wf6bb6c Then why don't you want to?
Doesnt the Bible say to wear a head cover or shave the head ?
Veiling is so beautiful! I want to veil but I'm a white 15-year-old girl and my church is a Pentecostal church so am I able to veil? and I don't even know if my parents will let me because my dad is the pastor of our church
Iâve seen you everywhere! (It feels like lol) anyway yes you can veil if your Pentecostal. I told my mom abt all the evidence Iâve gathered and told her about what God said about Veiling. She let me wear one. Most people donât care about the veil, at least at my church. But idk it depends.
Its not true
In the bible Jesus said that women who cut their hair should cover their head when they are praying but the women who dont cut their hair they dont have to cover their head when praying because their long hair will do that for them
Itâs not culture. One should really study it before trying to teach it. Itâs about Gods ordinances.
Is it not the will of the lord who commands in the Bible woman must Vail
It is a Scriptural command. Read 1 Corinthians 11:5-10 and then read 1 Corinthians 14:37.
actually no the choice is either your Dad's or your husband first of all long hair according to the scriptures King James Bible is a covering secondly if you are not married and your dad is still alive you should obey him if he says wear one you obey him if your married the dad has no more authority and you obey your husband if he says wear one you obey if he says don't wear one you should obey him as for the man no long hair plus no praying or prophesizing while wearing a hat
Christ over the man
The Man over his wife
The parents over their children
Influence by culture? Omg read Bible
It's not up to u read the scripture
Hope the whorshippers of Islamic Allah Khayrul-Makereen the greatest deciver stone lord đ doesn't call it. Yes akhi its hijaba đ€Šââïž i still remember that one arab Muslim comparing a women to shawarma went viral about Veils and temptations. Xd
Its not âif u likeâ or something
Its âdo itâ, read the Bible please
Do what? it doesn't say the word veil it says women are to be covered and apparently that means long hair. So in a sense yes, do it, keep the hair long and don't cut it short.
My pastor said it means women should have long hair, that it is our covering.
@@rosea2350 so basically orthodox Christianâs, Ethiopian women and so on are âstupidâ and wear double cover wearing it ? đ€
@@ivanm2189 Well I wouldnât put it that way since these misunderstandings or misinterpretations are happening to thousands of âChristiansâ over many other doctrines. Mormons wear special underwear, some Pentecostals do not allow their female congregants to wear pants it must be skirts. Some say that women should never ever cut their hair. Millions of Christians and so-called Christians all over the world are following an innumerable amount of false doctrines. The Bible makes mention that some people will depart from the faith and create their own groups with their own doctrines so we should not be surprised to think that people will get this one doctrine wrong.
It's more surprising to see others who claim to be Christian and donât understand this bit of truth which shows how little one is reading the Bible. The Bible clearly states that the covering is LONG hair we canât just dismiss 1st Cor 11:15 simply because we WANT to or because someone taught you a false doctrine? Study to show yourself approved before God rightly diving the word of truth.
In traditional Orthodoxy women are to cover head (there is a style of headdress) at church and everywhere else. In more modern parishes they just have during church and praying
That's fascinating! Can you provide an example of a traditional Orthodox denomination?
@@someoneveryclever Theres only one. It's called the Eastern Orthodox Church. You should join it
@@DoomerDoxy Well, you stated that in 'Traditional Orthodoxy', women cover their heads everywhere. Could you let me know of any example of a parish where women who belong to it practice this?
@@someoneveryclever The only people who don't do it really are the OCA. But every other rite or patriarchate does
@@DoomerDoxy That's awesome! So in your experience, most Orthodox Christian women cover their heads in public too? Even in Western Europe and in the United States?