The DARK TRUTH of This Pokemon Love Story
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- There is one actual romantic sidequest in Pokemon games, that involves another character falling in love with the player character, and this story unfolds in Pokemon Black 2 and White 2. But there is a secret underlying message to this story that involves the tragedies of love and stardom that remains unexplored.
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Fun fact: Did you know that after trading with Yancy/Curtis, you can sometimes check a TV and they'll be on an interview in their idol persona, and the Pokémon you traded them will be mentioned? I can't say for Curtis, but for Yancy, she'll say it was given to her by a precious friend.
FRIENDZONED
@@abekwembbuaneyukembyaukemb3355 LOOK MAN THEY'D GET CANCELLED
@@abekwembbuaneyukembyaukemb3355 Maybe Yancy is just trying to avoid the drama of revealing that she's dating someone?
@@abekwembbuaneyukembyaukemb3355in the manga, Nate was the one who ditched Yancy lol
Yeah Blake was using Yancy as a cover story in the manga he’s part of the international police basically he’s a cop
It's because of idol culture. They can't publically date because people need to believe they could date them. They can't have friends outside of work because their fans are supposed to be the most important. In a way, they're so starved for affection that they're willing to date someone they only know over the phone. It's sad.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing the idol culture Is brutal
Knowing the facts and knowing Yancy and Curtis reminds my brother of Bunny Girl Senpai a lot.
If you've ever played Hyrule Warriors, that's why Lana is designed after J pop idols too
Her role in universe is a sorceress who is supposed to only watch the balance of the triforce and not interfere, but she falls in love with the spirit of the hero through observing the time lines.
Destined to be important to the world but never important to the person they want.
Similar allegory just more abstracted by the fantasy setting.
If Japanese idol culture is also a factor they probably aren’t allowed to publicly date without a disguise either.
Maybe for the best...I wouldn't want to get stabbed by one of their crazy fanatics.
We know what happens when it gets out if any idol is being found out there are not single or in close friends with the other gender.
@@idanchen4934I don't. What happens? Do they lose fans or their job?
@@thedashey not just that,fans are pretty parasocial,they'd be dragged through the internet,possibly blacklisted or even stalked or kidnapped probably. I have heard some cases like an underground idol who was found by a crazed fan from a reflection in her eye,he even tracked down her house address and everything because of that one selfie and reflection. Things like sun positioning and all. If i recall he even SA'd her and i think almost killed her. She survived though. Her case is probably more common than people woukd first assume. If you want more information you can search it up.
@@thedashey well,i don't know how it is in the west,but from what i can recall they'd be probably publically shamed,forced to apologize,resign and possibly blacklisted. (Of course including being dragged on the internet) Possibly. Im not sure though,but i do know that repitation will stay forever. Sometimes the 'fans' are so parasocial. There's a case about a idol getting stalked and her crazed fan finding where she lived because of a single selfie,the sun's reflection in her eye was all he used to track down her house and everything. Her case was pretty brutal. Though she survived.
Yancy in the ferris wheel: Calm and happy
Curtis in the ferris wheel: W rizz
Curtis:
You seem like a calm and reasonable person. Are you, a calm and reasonable person?
My brother cosplayed as Curtis last year to give the character more recognition. Knowing Curtis is an idol-in-secret, he practices being in character just so when he goes to conventions on occasions, he wants to be charming like/as Curtis/Christoph. My brother said both Yancy and Curtis are like the Jesse McCartney of Unova.
@@jacaerys4 THATS AMAZING 👏🤩
My brother is a fan of Yancy and Curtis. He wished they were more popular back then in 2012 and Game Freak made their songs into a reality like "Xtransceiver Love" and "I'm Using A Quick Ball On Your Heart" and more solo songs sung by Nancy and Christoph. Last year, my brother cosplayed as Curtis to give the character more recognition. He believes Nate and Rosa are the very first Pokemon characters to have special someones. Yancy and Curtis are very much happy to be with Nate and Rosa; someone they can talk to the most.
Your brother is a pioneer.
@@gwendolin1762 He first discovered the two idols first back in 2022 and learned who they were. He enjoyed Pokemon more than I do. He also wishes the Pokemon community to be more peaceful where they don't have to worry about the FAKE ships that were never true. As of right now, they admitted their errors on how they treated their characters and believe every character, including Ash Ketchum are FOREVER single and spreading the word would hopefully bring peace to the community. The only couples that MATTER are Nate & Yancy and Rosa & Curtis. So in repeat, Nate and Rosa are the VERY FIRST Pokemon characters to have special someones. All my brother ever wanted was to make the community peaceful by persuading many people to believe the ships that they keep seeing are fake and only like Pokemon for what it is on the inside.
Yancy: Hugh, do you want to watch a movie together?
Hugh: I'd love to! What do you have in mind?
Yancy: Lucarioman! I've heard it's been very popular lately, they say the actor is a rookie, but he acts like he was born for the role.
Hugh: ...
Yancy: Are you okay? Your face is red.
isn't hugh the rival
@@oceanman2398 right, i mixed up the names
Nate: 💀💀💀
@@kizo_wotw4717 naw this just implies that in the timeline where you play as Rosa, Hugh gets with Yancy
@@alakazamlover4908 Did I create a ship by accident?
As a certified Curtis/Yancy fan of several years now, thank you for doing these characters justice. It’s so rare that I even see them brought up, and you’ve delved into their nuances beautifully-I couldn’t have said any of it better myself. Great video my guy!
I’m glad you enjoyed! Let me know if you wanna see anything else or if you try and of the links I posted
Last year, my brother cosplayed as Curtis to give the character more recognition. He's also a dedicated Nancy and Christoph fan.
In Pokemon Masters Ex Victor gave an applin to Mallow for the Valentine's Day event, which symbolizes romantic interest according to a Galarian NPC.
And when asked about this possibility, Victor is quick to deny it and says something about just wanting to assist in her cooking journey. Victor's a work over love kinda guy!
Kieran gives the player character an applin during a trade.
WHAT
Kieran isn't from Galar I don't think he knows what that means. Pretty sure he just gives an Applin because his ace is Hydrapple
@@pigeonlord8128 Considering that after the trade he's constantly glancing at the player and fiddling with his hair in a nervous manner I doubt it's just a giving a friend a pokemon deal like it is with everyone else.
Since Rosa is kind of the mascot of Pokemon Master EX, it would be cool to see those two in Pokemon Master EX
It would be yeah!
It’s awkward meeting your Ex in public
rip nate 💯
@@Serperior1212Considering Yancy is the more popular of the two (she’s even the one in the manga, even if it’s just her getting dumped by Blake), she might come as well.
@@paperluigi6132 huh
So Yancy and Curtis are idols.
There's a million Oshi No Ko jokes that can be made out of this.
Bruhh I literally just came from that video
@@eglol which one?
@@eglolI want to know too
My brother likes to think Nancy and Christoph were based on Vocaloid like Kagamine Rin and Kagamine Len.
My headcanon is that after you became a celebrity yourself (by saving Unova, became a Champion and became a famous actor yourself), Yancy/Curtis also public their *friendship* with you.
Sapphire and Ruby are a couple in the Pokémon Adventures manga.
Also Nate's manga counterpart actually dumps Nancy/Yancy in the Manga at the start
Correct!
"Sapphire and Ruby are a couple in the Pokémon Adventures manga."
Yeah, a FAILED couple. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The people who ship 'em together don't even know the truth behind how the ship sunk like the Titanic. 😂
@@Evil_Beauty Didn't they get together at the end of ORAS though?
I know RS manga Ruby loses his memory and Sapphire is so MAD at him about this lmao.
@@WildWeavile Yes. They did end up together by the end of ORAS. BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF WHERE I'M GETTING AT!
The irony of *HOW* they ended together when Sapphire confessed her feelings to Ruby *PRIOR* to him, "losing his memory", is where this ship sanked. And it's even more ironically hilarious that Franticshippers either TOTALLY ignored this small VERY important detail, or completely MISSED IT, altogether. 🤣
***SPOILERS***
Long story short, Sapphire literally cheated on Ruby without knowing the boy she cheated on, as well as confessed her feelings of love to, being the VERY SAME BOY that not only SAVED HER when she was little, but is also the SAME BOY that she developed feelings for throughout the course of their journey together leading up to Sapphire's confession.
🤭😆😂
And to add insult to injury, Sapphire EVEN ADMITTED that she LOVED, "the boy" (aka Ruby), more than *THE BOY* that saved her when she was little. Which happened to be the SAME PERSON! RUBY! 🤭🤣😂
So in retrospect, all this time throughout the Ruby & Sapphire arc, Sapphire fell out of love for the boy who saved her when she was little, and loved the boy that she had to compete against for 100 days MORE THAN (her words) than her childhood savior. 😆 Oh, the sweet irony lmfao! Cheatception, anyone?
😆🤣😂
It's no wonder, let alone a surprise that Ruby developed amnesia after the events of the Ruby & Sapphire arc. Sapphire literally did a doozy on him. 🤣
I thought the title was gonna be clickbait but...I was pleasantly surprised. You made me have a new opinion on this "sidequest", if that's an appropirate title for it. I think I like it even more now.
I’m glad you enjoyed! Let me know if there’s anything else you’d like to see from me!
If you turn on the tv in the game when you trade pokemon with them, they’ll say that it’s form a precious or special friend. From what I remember they also get interviews about their love life and they blush on tv, I think they even write a song about you. At least Curtis did when I played lol. It’s been a long time since I’ve played BW2
For a moment I thought they were part of the villain organization, but this is somehow more tragic.
My brother feels for Yancy and Curtis a lot. While enjoying the idol life, they still want a normal life just to take it easy on their lives. They are glad to meet Nate and Rosa; someone they can have conversations with the most.
6:15 "I've been too busy and sleep-deprived lately" 💔💔💔
also, do you guys think in possible (good) remakes, gamefreak would change yancy's favorite type from normal to fairy and make her the unovan fairy-type specialist since unova lacks it (and a rock-type specialist). her ace could be togekiss because: the baby form of it is the last pokemon she trades to you and it's a flying type which could represent her flying to other regions.
also also pokemon adventures did yancy REALLY dirty
Yes!!
As much as we want this, I also feared GF would remove the yancy/curtis arc lmao
Lacey is from Unova and is a Fairy-Type Specialist.
Whenever they get around to making a Black and White remake, I hope they continue this quest so it can be fully resolved. I didn't know these characters even existed until today, but I'm so invested in their wellbeing!
I hope they brought back the optional dating feature in future B2/W2 remake/sequel, it's one of my beloved feature beside running a mall and dressing up Pokemon for a dance.
B2/W2 had a lot of neat side content.
1:06 The answer is Ruby and Sapphire in Pokémon Adventures
Correct!
the ORAS manga was so wholesome as well!
It's so cool to see somebody make such a well-crafted video about my favorite character(Yancy). When I was doing research for my fanfiction, I noticed exactly what you mentioned. All I gotta say is poor Yancy and Curtis, I hope they'll feel comfortable enough come clean with the Mc's(Nate or Rosa) eventually 😔.
My brother feels for Yancy and Curtis a lot. While enjoying the idol life, they still want a normal life just to take it easy on their lives. They are glad to meet Nate and Rosa; someone they can have conversations with the most. He also likes to think Nancy and Christoph were inspired by Vocaloid like Kagamine Rin and Kagamine Len.
I swear Unova games were something else,i havent payed much attention to this dialog although i completed because of rare mons, such a great game
BW2 had so much content. Truly underrated
I’m just used to team rocket saying “ annoying little brat” . “Rocket grunt wants to fight”That’s the most affection I ever got.
Nancy's outfit is a foreshadowing of sylveon the fairy type pokemon that evloves from eevve
Ngl she looks like the mother of the main character of the Pokemon fangame Rejuvenation, coincidence? I think not
@@deepflare1028In fact, in the introduction it is said that the caracters came from Unova. Bro you're actually right. Imagine all the possibilities if we talk about the same Nancy that inspired our mom in rejuvenation. Imagine if our dad was BW2 protagonist. It would explains why we are so powerful. This is a crazy theorie
@@deepflare1028And Curtis the father of Volta the Journalist ?
@@Principalesm You know that could be possible too, but I heard her mom is one of the Elite Eight(?)
@@PrincipalesmHonestly, I don't think that theory is possible considering a story revelation in V13.5, you might wanna finish the game first
Idk how planned the spots were, but without looking anything up, I triggered quite a bit of calls to get to the trading part
As A Big Gen 5 Fan When I Was A Kid, This Video Made Me Realized How Innocent I Am Back Then... This Still Is Sweet Tho
8:33 Ayyy! It's Chuggaconroy's team!
Yep!
If gen 5 ever has a remake, i need Curtis in the game
Ya come for the pokemon and shipping and then get hit with deep life lessons
Looking for you to try some of those links bro let me know if you do 👀
@@HybridHero will do bro!
If they make remake of this game i want prize of becoming super star in poke star studio to be meeting them in their celebrity form. I think that would be interesting.
I recall no one that loved me whole before
And I've not been in love with anybody before
Now, the lies I'm making up, I'm hoping that
A day comes when they all become true
And I keep wishing they do
Would you also count Kanto/Johto games Copycat girl (game Duplica) side quests as a ship with Red?
RBY games only had male playable character of Red while GSC and HGSS always have Red for the boss battle and the Copycat's parents refer to a boy gifting her the doll that she cherishes
Hmmm is there enough depth to the story? I haven’t really looked into it
@@HybridHero probably not but is the I consider it the first game ship involving a protag
Considering their age gap...I'm quite mixed about this, seemed more like a childhood crush more than anything
I'm a sucker for love stories in any game, but i never expected to miss this in Black 2/White 2, i feel bad for not fully finishing this game, now i have something to look forward to when revisiting this game, thank you making this video!!!
👌☺💚
Man, thinking back on this I don't think I ever called them back. I was just a teen going straight to the league. Makes me want to replay this game.
I never knew there was more to this side quest. I found youtube videos about it years ago, and never made it past the 10 phone calls because no one at the time seemed to really know this quest very much. Had no idea there was 50 calls and the whole story made around it. Very interesting indeed
The mechanic for going to the EXACT same tiles throughout the world over and over and over is like the PINNACLE model for how inaccessible and pointlessly annoying and obuse everything in pokemon has to be.
For some reason, I was never into LiveCasterShipping ( Curtis x Rosa). I was more into Sequelshipping ( Hugh x Rosa). I like The Childhood Friend to Rival Dynamic more than Normie x Celebrity Dynamic.
Edit: Okay, so Normie x Celebrity wasn't the right ship dynamic for LiveCasterShipping. I think Celebrity x Celebrity is the better way to describe that ship. Also in Pokemon Masters Rosa's support did say she going to be an actress. Sequelshipping could be describe as childhood friends to rivals to lovers dynamic.
Did you forget that Nate and Rosa become champion or something? They're DEFINITELY not normies lmao
@@theknightwithabadpictotall7639 They started off as normies. How would you categorize champion x celebrity in fan fic tropes? Celebrity x Celebrity?
I don’t know these ones 👀
Yancy and Curtis should consider dating each other. They have so much in common! /s
we are not normies. or at least we should not be. rosa is the greatest movie star to come out of pokestar studios in a generation. and that should have featured in this story. wether they throw in scenes of everything they go through as idols into our experience at pokestar, or we can just talk to them about being a 4000 billion poke movie star and that while our experiences are diffrent they do not have to hide.
Curtis in his idol form kind of looks like Azure Striker Gunvolt, and considering that he likes electric type Pokemon, and that Joule who was Gunvolt's partner was an idol in the Gunvolt series, maybe that was Gamefreak's way of referencing that other game series.
Seeing so many people talk so well in regards to Black & White plus their sequels, now I wish that when those games were new in 2010, that I had actually played them as I would have been in Highschool then, but during that time I was getting away from Console and Handheld gaming, as I was focusing on school and in order to socialize I would play on PC and there were a lot of MMOs to play back then, which is why I basically ignored everything that got released between the DSi launches, up until the 3DS era was in its final state with the releases of the XL shortly after Smash 4 had come out, and even though I had tried playing Pokemon X when I had gotten a 3DS then, I felt that I had kinda grown out of Pokemon, and it didn't help that the people at work who also played it, were freaking EV trainers that devoted their lives to making the perfect Pokemon, and after getting my ass handed to me by Greninjas with Protean, or the famous 1 hit KO Noiverns, it just killed any sort of interest I could have gotten for Pokemon again, since I wasn't willing to devote so much time to playing a silly game just to get perfect rolls for my Pokemon.
While a neat idea, azure striker gunvolt came out two years after B2W2
@@KirbyToad59 Good to know then, I haven't been a Pokemon fan in the last decade and a half, the last DS game that I played being Diamond, and since that game got stolen and ruined a friendship, its one of the reasons why I stayed away from the series, but I guess its Gunvolt himself who was inspired then, unless it was total coincidence by both dev teams to make such a similar character, since apparently Gunvolt was supposed to be inspired by Seiryu the Azure Dragon of the East.
Tis happiness, not fame, that defines success.
A great video that did Yancy and Curtis justice. I only wish I had found your channel sooner
Nice video😙
(I really liked the way you talk about these two)
I remember i've fun time doing these sidequest , Changed between boy and girl Protagonist to see both Yancy and Curtis were sweet(and also thanks to the people on youtube for guiding me in this sidequest years ago😅).
Those brave souls who helped back then 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
y'know those videos you add to your youtube watch later because of a quirky title but then remove? I Thought this would be like that
but naw
i watched it
and damn this was fun.....you earned yourself a new sub my friend
I literally did this side quest for the first time like last week! It’s a little convoluted in game but I like the idea of Curtis and Yanci. I’m collecting all of their trade pokemon from both games
This video was a blast from the past. I absolutely loved the Unova region and this sidequest. I remember the surprise i had when i saw Curtis in his idol outfit
I enjoyed this quest a lot, especially when white 2 was my first Pokemon game, poke star studios and this quest , Hugh is so amazing
Sapphire and Ruby almost get together in the manga during the Ruby/Sapphire arc but its delayeduntil ORAS. Honorable mention to Black and White.
Fun fact: In the fan game Pokemon Rejuvenation your player character's Mom is Nancy which likely means your father is the Black/White 2 Protag. He isn't present and I believe it's implied or straight up mentioned he died but Nancy is a very strong trainer which would likely come from dating a Champion, especially one in a region that hosts the World Tournament and the player character is very much a talented trainer.
I stumbled upon this video by YT "watch next" algorithm, and... wow, I was not expecting that that talk about feeling lonely on the inside. I might have to look into those videos.
I’m going to guess the couple is one of the three:
1. Most likely Ruby and Sapphire from adventures
2. Black and White also from adventures
3. Maybe or maybe not Red and Yellow
Curtis is one of my favorite characters in BW. He deserves so much more love. In fact, I even made him a character in a fanseries I'm writing.
I knew of these characters before but I never knew about the story going on there. You cleverer the story very well
I really appreciate you recommending tools regarding improving mental health. Good on you. I hope you're doing well.
Also, this was a very lovely video.
i was never able to finish this quest. i had no idea there was so much of it
This video reminds me of Nate's manga counterpart, Lack-Two/Blake.
Also, Ruby and Sapphire is the answer.
Though both of them never appeared in the anime , yancy made her appearance in adventures manga of b2w2 in the starting scene.Thats why i love adventures manga it brings many items and character that go unnoticed in anime and games to life.An example of that is fame checker in fRLG arc and most importantly the POKEDEX which noone pays so much attention to.
Here’s hoping we see them again in gen 5 remakes.
Random thing: I like how u put in Sayo-nara early in the video
I'm disappointed in myself for not having my copy of Black 2 anymore because I don't remember this side quest at all. I wanna go back and play it.
loved t his video! hope you'll talk about other couples in different pokemon series like the manga
This is phenomenal
Yancy: "Thank you for appreciating me for who I am..."
Me holding her Spinda like a treasure: "Yeah yeah whatever, don't mention it, girl."
They also don't know that they are talking with the champion of this region
Great video, was very nice to go through and makes me wanna do more things now
I’m glad! Let me know if there’s anything else you wanna see or if you try any of the links I posted
Thanks, this is a great video.
Ruby and Sapphire from the Pokémon Adventures manga during the Ruby ad Sapphire chapters.
Ngl I've been replaying Black 2 and there's so much I love and one of them is getting calls from Curtis
This kind of shipping content entertained me way more than I'd like to admit! I'd really like more.
What happens in the ferris wheel, stays in the ferris wheel (those who knows, knows)
The fandom showed me Hilbert x N, what do i do now-
It looks like the two are coworkers and could become friends with each other but I think the two know hanging out would be them in disguise and it wouldn't feel right so they aren't friends outside like they are with the player it's sad.
Actually of you checked tvs you can see both of em in some narrations its great! I am a great fan of these ganes i know most of facts its fun to see them but sad, theres a lot of lil eastereggs almost no one looked for It or just couldnt make a vid :]
They were so cute i love curtis he's adorable
I didnt know this after the ferris wheel i thought it was done. Now i gotta replay it
I was assuming this would be like a cruel show about tricking people into fake relationships. Far more wholesome outcome
Well just like IRL Dates are Optional
I clicked and stay because of Rosa ^ ^
I do like this video, but the pacing is a just a little choppy, but overall good. Maybe it was my mentality outside of the video that was affecting me, but I figured I’d through the constructive criticism out there. Great video though!
There's one other thing you haven't mentioned about these two celebrities. If you watch the TV (celebrity category) after a certain point during this quest, you may have a chance to see one of the two celebrities talking about you. For me it was the interviewer noticing them being more happy than usual, which the celebrity replied it may be because of a recent encounter.
While not confirmed, I still ship brendan and may, especially in oras where they basically go on a date to the mosdeep space center
It always comes back to socioeconomics
I didn't know this was a whole side quest when I played black and white 2. I don't remember doing this stuff at all.
I never even knew this was a thing.
I remember this sidequest, but didn't get to see Yancy's face.... Wonder if I should play it again? 😅
I was kind of bothered by the fact I never got to talk with Yancy about her job. It was a neat side quest, but there being no conclusion was a bummer.
fame allows you to have the attention you may desire, you also get to make people happy. But what’s the point if you yourself (you hybridhero) don’t experience this.
Ok when I play this game again, Ill be starring up in Pokestar Studios for them.
ash and serbrina in the pokiemon anime sadly ended this way as well due to the fact they never actaly came back togther.
Ash and who?
I READ THE ENTIRETY OF OSHI NO KO YESTERDAY WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ME CZcams COME ON
Tbh this is a pretty in depth romance story considering it’s a Pokémon game. I never played the first BW but I heard one character also has a romance with you too? I wonder why they stopped doing this
is the canonical pair you mentioned Ruby and Sapphire from the Adventures manga? that's the only one i can think of
Oooh this was very sweet actually. *Sub*
I remember this clearly but it happened with our rival instead XD that is why I shipped Rosa with our rival the most ❤
Oh we talking about Sapphire and Ruby for that comment engagement? Let's gooo
this is interesting because it reaveld an in game secret but i prefer non shipping theories
Quite interesting how you didn't mention that your responses is actually based from the answers you give out to the Passing Survey in Castelia. Otherwise, Curt/Yan will have a "..." and then acknowledge it.
why didn't it just make the love interest the opposite protagonist, i think that would be so cool
Probably cause the opposite protagonist shows up at the battle subway as a doubles partner IIRC
@@supreme_king_obama1158 That's even better
Man if we get a unova remake I hope we can choose between dating Curtis or yancy
The ironic part is that most pokemon players would rather date their pokemon...
Gen 10 should let you Date characters that are apart the player story just like fellow RPG series Persona but more family friendly
Man i was expecting them to be team plasma grunts